December 19, 2025 • 27 mins
On this Salcedo Storm Podcast:
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser is the Founder and President of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy. He a practicing physician who is running for congress in Arizona’s Fourth Congressional District.
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser is the Founder and President of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy. He a practicing physician who is running for congress in Arizona’s Fourth Congressional District.
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we more apt to believe my axiom which says democrats
equals fraud. It's a mathematical constant. It's brand spank and new,
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and I'm having a hard time disproving it. You know
what else has been a colossal fraud that they're proving
it left and right. Obamacare. The Government Accountability Office found
massive amounts of fraud ninety four million dollars paid to
insurers for dead people, a whole bunch of I mean
millions of people getting getting insurance policies that were bought
(04:13):
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people had no idea they were quote unquote insured, and
the traitorous insurance companies raking in the dough. Anyway, the
GAO's findings, which included fifty eight thousand Social Security numbers
receiving advanced premium tax credits that matched Social Security death data,
(04:38):
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the coverage even started. You know, for me, folks, I
think that your healthcare has got to stop once you die.
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You know. They set up a sting at the GAO
and they tested Obamacare whether or not they were screening
and doing all the required safeguards they promised they would
do to safeguard the American tax payers money. It was
something like a ninety percent fail rate, twenty seven billion
dollars annually in improper payments. And Democrats say, oh, we
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companies pockets and their coffers, and four traitorous Republicans just
voted for that this week, just consider that. More discussions
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Go to texascorecard dot com today. Doctor Zudi Josser is
the founder and president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy.
He's a practicing physician who is running for congress in
Arizona's fourth congressional district. Doctor Jasser, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
It's great to be with you, Chris. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, let's talk about some issues here. We have been
talking all all the last couple of weeks, I mean
since before Thanksgiving about what's been going on with immigration
and such. An I want to get into it specifically,
but I want to tap into your medical background first,
(09:49):
because there's some movement on trying to relieve the curse
that is Obamacare on this country. Senator Ran Paul and
President Trump are both talking, which is a positive. I
think they're talking about working within a framework of Obamacare
by pushing something called association health plans. This would allow
(10:10):
you and me and everybody in this Alcedo audience to
go out and purchase group plans through Costco or Sam's
Club or one of these one of these stores and
use that as a as a mechanism by which to
become a big pool of people to get better pricing.
What do you think about that.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
It's a wonderful idea and it's just one of many
that can begin to put back into a marketplace that
has been stuffocated by a lack of competition, by a
strangulation of consolidation. Where we saw during COVID the hospitals
and insurance companies banded together to conspire to weaponize a
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segment of our economy. And as they control twenty twenty
five percent of the GDP. Now during COVID, they took
away our right and on top of that, now they're
trying to control the economy. If you control a court
of the economy, you control the entire economy, and basically
we've lost competition. There's been vertical integration where the same
procedures I do in my office in primary care, I
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get paid literally ten times less than what the hospital
across the screek gets paid, and they're told that they
can charge more because they do charity care and they
have nonprofit status, when in fact there a corporation with
C suites. And we see in the last ten years
Obamacare has gone from ten percent administrative costs and healthcare
in America to now twenty five to thirty percent, with
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most of that money being top heavy, going to seven
and eight figure salaries for C suite folks that are
just not at the point of care. And as rand
Paul's talking about, he's saying, you know, why not have
more variability and insurance. Why not have patients decide how
they're going to spend their dollar instead of having twenty
different people in the exam room with me and my patients,
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where they decide which formularies I can use, which procedures
I can do. They delay care all of the aspects
of which America was the leader in healthcare because of
the free market. The socialists took it over now and
they're destroying it and devastating healthcare as a result. It's
not American, it's not free markets. And people wonder why
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we can't afford healthcare and the rest of our families
can't afford the rest of what we're trying to provide
for our kids. It's because there's a fixed price, no
price elasticity, and thus prices can only go up and
they can't go down.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, well, there you go. And you know, as we've established.
I had an insurance expert on a couple weeks back,
Obamacare has destroyed and you were alluding to this the
competitiveness in the insurance market which we used to have.
And I'm not sold on the insurance market. I'm just
saying that it has worked better than it is working now.
So we've already established Obamacare destroying the competitive marketplace and insurance.
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What did it do on the practical level, because I think,
guess where, folks, where the rubber meets the road. What
is it doing to people's health care, the relationship between
patient and doctor.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
You know, I listen, I've spent my life fighting institutions
and the establishment and the medical establishment is a bunch
of elites that have decided they know what doctors and
their patients need, and patients no longer have a choice
about what medications they can choose with their doctor, how
to spend the healthcare dollar. They're spending literally thousands a month,
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ten percent of their family budget on healthcare, and they
demand to get something in exchange for that. And yet
they come to my office. They can't even make simple
decisions on what anti inflammatories, what diabetic medications. All that
kind of stuff is interfering in procedures that they want
to do things for prevention. I mean, insurance is now
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become the controller of healthcare instead of and the government.
It's become the controller of that because medicare sets prices,
they set a list of what they'll approve and what
they don't. And one of the things we saw with
many class action suits with ETNA and others was that
they were refusing things through AI et cetera upfront because
they would gain ten twenty percent, in which most physicians
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don't have time or the bandwidth to resubmit for authorization, etc.
So this is a system that's broken where we need
people at the front point of care to make decisions
and then empower them through whether it's health savings accounts
or whether it's subsidies. Those subsidies that were shutting down
America last month were actually not going to patients. They claimed.
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The left claim that was going to patients. It's not.
It was going to subsidize billion dollar insurance companies c
suites where patients still weren't seeing any of that. And
that's what we need to flip. We need to flip
the script upside down back to what America's about, which
is bread and butter, you know, mom and pop healthcare,
which is what my practice is. I've got eighteen employees,
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and I know what it is to run a small business.
I know what I pay for my health insurance. As
I signed my check last you know, once I pay
all my expenses, my payrolls going up. Everything's going up,
and health insurance is going up for my employees. And
yet they're getting worse and worse healthcare.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That's it, right, what you've just said, this is the
that's the nail in the coffin of socialized medicine that
is Obamacare. It's a failure. We have never been paying
more out of pocket Our plans are absolutely you know this.
Our plans are absolute garbage. And then meanwhile, trillions of
our taxpayer dollars are patting the pockets of what I
call the trader's insurance companies. In my opinion, doctor Jasser,
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we've got to get government and insurance companies out of
our health care decisions completely. We should be able to
deduct our health care costs on our tax forms. We
should be able to have health sav these accounts that
accrue without any tax penalty and only have catastrophic loss
policies which need to be restored because they were cheap.
(16:06):
Everybody could afford one of those, and they would handle
the proverbial cancer diagnosis or getting hit by a car
or a bus or whatever. If you get elected to Congress,
do you think you can actually convince the Republican Party
to rediscover the free market to replace Obamacare.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Absolutely. And that's why I'm running for Congress is because
I think many of us have forgotten. I mean, actually,
back in the nineties, I'm the son of a physician.
My dad was in practice and he was having a
lot of angina, if you will, about the Contract with
America because the Conservatives went in with the HMOs and others,
and thought that that would be sort of the salvation,
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and now we're realizing that it's not, because it just
created a Wall Street metaglomerate that really wasn't elastic to prices,
and just like we see with it and others, with
Facebook and others trying to regulate the industry so that
they can control it. That's what happened with healthcare. The
hospital insurance HMO integration controlled healthcare became a part of
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government regulation. And now we have to get back to
our roots of conservatism, which is small business protections, antitrust.
There are so many things. The Stark Law is nonsense
where I can't have investments in various things in healthcare,
physicians can't own hospitals Minnesota. Amy Klobacher was talking about
as a senator, Well, we don't have access to healthcare.
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You know, there hasn't been a new hospital in Minnesota
since the eighties. And that's absurd because physicians know where
the gaps are in our communities. I know my community
here in the district. Congressman Stanton has been completely missing
in action, and yet we know that we're suffering with
lack of health care. The left says that there's a
right to healthcare Europe. When you talk about it right,
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you need to have access to it. So either ration
through waiting months and months and months, which is what's
beginning to happen, or patients lose their doctor no longer
have access, or you ration through cost and competition and
price elasticity. We have to get back to them, and
I believe I can prosecute the case in Congress to
remind our conservatives and independent of how to make things
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affordable again.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
However, many conservatives are left. Folks. We're talking to doctor
Zudi Josser. He is running in the fourth district congressional
race in the state of Arizona. Let me get you
to put on your political hat. In states like Michigan, Minnesota,
even in my home state of Texas, Muslim enclaves are
springing up there imposing Sharia law. We got believe it
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or not. And I'm not sure if you've heard this,
doctor Josser, but there are Sharia courts functioning in North
Texas and that's prompted the Texas government to finally do
something about it. And you know, these importees courtesy of Democrats, socialists,
they are using tax payer dollars like in Minnesota to
fund terrorists. We just had a third arrest of one
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of these impoorties in the Biden regime, unvetted who was
guess what, supporting terrorism. And then Christy Nome drops this
in a cabinet meeting just two days ago.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Into Minnesota and their fraud on visas and their programs,
fifty percent of them are fraudulent, which means that that
wacko Governor Walls either is an idiot or he did
it on purpose, and I think he's bold.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Sir.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Brought people in there illegally that never should have been
in this country, said they were somebody that they're not.
They said they were married to somebody who was their
brother or somebody else. Fraudulent visa application signed up for
government programs, took hundreds of billions of dollars from the taxpayers.
And we're going to remove them, and we're going to
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get our money back, and we're going to this next
year make sure that we only put people in leadership
positions in this country that loved this country.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Fifty five zero percent of the visas in Minnesota alone
are fraudulent, and this is what happened. And I've said,
doctor Joshua, this is what happens. When you put democrats
in charge of anything. You're going to find lawbreakers. You
find a democrat, you find a lawbreaker one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
And you know that's the other aspect of the establishment
that I've been fighting. I've been fighting against the establishment
in my own faith community because the theocrats. You know,
Islam is only fourteen and forty five years old, it
has not gone through an anti theocratic movement. It needs
massive reforms. My family came here escaping dictatorship, be it
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military dictatorship in Syria or Islamist dictatorship's theocracy, and Americanism
is the only solution to that. And I can prosecute
that case. And as we saw when I was testifying
to Congress about and God blessed Governor Abbott for declaring
the Muslim Brotherhood a terror organization. And now we see
the President has signed a similar executive order and we're
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beginning to finally do things that I was testifying to
Congress four back in twenty fourteen and sixteen and eighteen,
to the Senate and the House telling them to declare
the Muslim Brotherhood of terror organization, and the Holy Land
Foundation trial that was in Dallas basically said this in
two thousand and eight and nine that that board was
funneling money to Hamas. Hamas was a terror organization and
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yet inside a so called charity organization. They were then
convicted of conspiring to support Hamas and also aiding and
abetting our enemies on our soil. So, you know, under
the guise of loocism and dei politics and collectivism, the
left empowered a massive anti American, Unamerican movement that took
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a ideology which is political Islam and made it into
a race which it isn't. And as I said to
on national television and with us so many times, I said, listen,
it's not just about Muslims. They're going to radicalize the left,
no different than they radicalized Muslims around the world. And
that's why the Kuttars and the Irans are working with China, Russia, etc.
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Against Westernism, because Americanism is the only solution to dei
identity politics. We saw BLM and others radicalizing the left,
we now see the aocs and the ilhan Omar's driving
the politics on the left. And if we're going to
get back the center of America. I can flip that script.
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I can say, you know what, as a Muslim, there's
nothing more pro Muslim than fighting theocracy. And I would
tell people to go to YouTube and look at my
speech at Oxford in which I argued as a Muslim
that Islam is not compatible with democracy. Muslim should not
come to America and use religious freedom to then operate
enclaves that endorse Shria law, that take away women's rights
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and other rights that are simply un American. And it's
time that we had a frank conversation about what it
means to be American and what are the values that
we stand for.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Damn straight. And it's been reported by Christian nomand and
it's been widely reported that this guy that killed the
National Guards woman Sarah Beckstrom, he was radicalized. He came
here from Afghanistan, unvetted. Of course, he had a lot
of baggage already, but then he was radicalized to hate
America by showing up to a Democrat state and learned
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from and plugged into this anti American leftist Democrat network
and was radicalized here in left wing Washington. Last thing
I have for you because if you make it to Congress,
you're going to be weighing in on this stuff, the
Venezuelan drug boats. What is your take from thirty thousand
feet up on what the Trump administration is doing to
basically declare these these narco terrorists a threat? And I
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think that over one hundred thousand American deaths a year
on average is sufficient enough evidence to say that they
are a threat to our people's lives. What do you
think about the way the Trump administration is handling this?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You know, listen, we're on a border state for two
hundred miles from the border, in the district that I
would like to send Congressman Stanton, who's been missing in
action on all these issues. He voted against empowering our
border patrol. He voted against any type of rule of
law here in our state and federally. And you know,
(24:16):
I can tell you. I talk to folks that are
running drug rehab centers in Arizona and they tell me
that eighty percent of the beds nine ten months ago
when President Trump took over were fentanyl overdosed treatment, etc.
I talked to one of them a month ago and
she told me that it was down to five percent
of the beds already because we've stealed the border because
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Fentdel's not running in here. So to tell me that
those narco boats that are bringing in cocaine and other
types of drugs that are killing our citizens by the
thousands in an exponential kind of way, it's not terrorism.
It absolutely is. And to say that this is unique
to President Trump listen anoar Alaucki was a US citizen
in Yemen and the Obama administration targeted him appropriately and
(25:02):
killed him on Yemeny soil without a court, without any
type of judicial process, if you will. We have done
terror strikes in Pakistan and Somalia and elsewhere with drones.
President Obama and Biden committed thousands of those appropriately. They
should have done more, actually, but they didn't. And yes,
(25:22):
I have concerned as a conservative, I would like transparency
and our Congress should do that, and they are doing
that now. But to say that that's not within the
power and it's not appropriate, it's just gaslighting by the
left because they never said anything when President Obama was
doing it globally in the war against those terror organizations
that are threatening us here in America.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, and in my mind. Trump has done it again.
He's actually gotten the Democrats to defend and make excuses
for Narco terrorists who are responsible for killing tens of
thousands of Americans every year with their poison they're pushing
into the veins of our citizens. Doctor Zudi Josser, he's
running for Congress and the fourth Congressional district in Arizona.
(26:04):
If folks want to help you out, doctor Josser, where
can they go?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Please find me at Z four a z Z number,
fouraz dot com. And you know, this is one of
the few swing districts left. So as you look across
the country, we got to keep the House for President Trump.
I'm at the top of the ballot come November because
there's no Senate race this time in Arizona and the
President is not on the ballots, so the congressional races
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will be at the top, and this is the district
we can flip and keep the House Republican.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Right on, right on, Thank you, doctor Zudi Josser. I
appreciate it. That right there puts a wrap on this
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Neil Smith and old Buck Buddy. Are you hearing Neil?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Neil?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I miss you, man, I have a question.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
We respect for me.
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Down breaking a major story, Chris, Congratulations four podcast. Let
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me give you some recent story headlines that might make
your head spend. Give you an idea of what we're
dealing with when it comes to the Socialist Democrat Party.
I have come up with a new mathematical constant, folks,
Democrat equals fraud. Democrat equals fraud, and I'm having a
hard time find any other theorem that contradicts that. Assistant
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US Attorney Joe Thompson just revealed as much as nine
billion dollars in medicaid fraud out of tim A Walls, Minnesota,
as Somalis and fraudsters are ravaging taxpayers pockets. That's all
on tim A Walls. That's all on Democrats being lousy
stewards of your money. By the way, speaking of Somalis,
(01:23):
have you guys seen this cat that's that's all over
the social media scene. He's been shared like a bazillion times.
He's an alleged Somali and he hates white people and
he hates America. Listen to his message, folks, Hahan, you
work all day.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
You don't gosh, thank you for work.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's so hard.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So I can be home all day.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Free, I can use my EVT.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Go to work for me.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
White boy, white girl, Yeah, go to work for me.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You white animals work for me.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, you can work for me.
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it left and right. Obamacare. The Government Accountability Office found
massive amounts of fraud ninety four million dollars paid to
insurers for dead people, a whole bunch of I mean
millions of people getting getting insurance policies that were bought
(04:13):
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the money went directly to the traderous insurance companies. The
people had no idea they were quote unquote insured, and
the traitorous insurance companies raking in the dough. Anyway, the
GAO's findings, which included fifty eight thousand Social Security numbers
receiving advanced premium tax credits that matched Social Security death data,
(04:38):
at least seven to thousand of them were dead before
the coverage even started. You know, for me, folks, I
think that your healthcare has got to stop once you die.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
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Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know. They set up a sting at the GAO
and they tested Obamacare whether or not they were screening
and doing all the required safeguards they promised they would
do to safeguard the American tax payers money. It was
something like a ninety percent fail rate, twenty seven billion
dollars annually in improper payments. And Democrats say, oh, we
(05:11):
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fraudulent dollars into our good friends. The traderer's insurance insurance
companies pockets and their coffers, and four traitorous Republicans just
voted for that this week, just consider that. More discussions
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Go to texascorecard dot com today. Doctor Zudi Josser is
the founder and president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy.
He's a practicing physician who is running for congress in
Arizona's fourth congressional district. Doctor Jasser, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
It's great to be with you, Chris. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, let's talk about some issues here. We have been
talking all all the last couple of weeks, I mean
since before Thanksgiving about what's been going on with immigration
and such. An I want to get into it specifically,
but I want to tap into your medical background first,
(09:49):
because there's some movement on trying to relieve the curse
that is Obamacare on this country. Senator Ran Paul and
President Trump are both talking, which is a positive. I
think they're talking about working within a framework of Obamacare
by pushing something called association health plans. This would allow
(10:10):
you and me and everybody in this Alcedo audience to
go out and purchase group plans through Costco or Sam's
Club or one of these one of these stores and
use that as a as a mechanism by which to
become a big pool of people to get better pricing.
What do you think about that.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
It's a wonderful idea and it's just one of many
that can begin to put back into a marketplace that
has been stuffocated by a lack of competition, by a
strangulation of consolidation. Where we saw during COVID the hospitals
and insurance companies banded together to conspire to weaponize a
(10:52):
segment of our economy. And as they control twenty twenty
five percent of the GDP. Now during COVID, they took
away our right and on top of that, now they're
trying to control the economy. If you control a court
of the economy, you control the entire economy, and basically
we've lost competition. There's been vertical integration where the same
procedures I do in my office in primary care, I
(11:15):
get paid literally ten times less than what the hospital
across the screek gets paid, and they're told that they
can charge more because they do charity care and they
have nonprofit status, when in fact there a corporation with
C suites. And we see in the last ten years
Obamacare has gone from ten percent administrative costs and healthcare
in America to now twenty five to thirty percent, with
(11:37):
most of that money being top heavy, going to seven
and eight figure salaries for C suite folks that are
just not at the point of care. And as rand
Paul's talking about, he's saying, you know, why not have
more variability and insurance. Why not have patients decide how
they're going to spend their dollar instead of having twenty
different people in the exam room with me and my patients,
(12:00):
where they decide which formularies I can use, which procedures
I can do. They delay care all of the aspects
of which America was the leader in healthcare because of
the free market. The socialists took it over now and
they're destroying it and devastating healthcare as a result. It's
not American, it's not free markets. And people wonder why
(12:21):
we can't afford healthcare and the rest of our families
can't afford the rest of what we're trying to provide
for our kids. It's because there's a fixed price, no
price elasticity, and thus prices can only go up and
they can't go down.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, well, there you go. And you know, as we've established.
I had an insurance expert on a couple weeks back,
Obamacare has destroyed and you were alluding to this the
competitiveness in the insurance market which we used to have.
And I'm not sold on the insurance market. I'm just
saying that it has worked better than it is working now.
So we've already established Obamacare destroying the competitive marketplace and insurance.
(12:59):
What did it do on the practical level, because I think,
guess where, folks, where the rubber meets the road. What
is it doing to people's health care, the relationship between
patient and doctor.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
You know, I listen, I've spent my life fighting institutions
and the establishment and the medical establishment is a bunch
of elites that have decided they know what doctors and
their patients need, and patients no longer have a choice
about what medications they can choose with their doctor, how
to spend the healthcare dollar. They're spending literally thousands a month,
(13:33):
ten percent of their family budget on healthcare, and they
demand to get something in exchange for that. And yet
they come to my office. They can't even make simple
decisions on what anti inflammatories, what diabetic medications. All that
kind of stuff is interfering in procedures that they want
to do things for prevention. I mean, insurance is now
(13:56):
become the controller of healthcare instead of and the government.
It's become the controller of that because medicare sets prices,
they set a list of what they'll approve and what
they don't. And one of the things we saw with
many class action suits with ETNA and others was that
they were refusing things through AI et cetera upfront because
they would gain ten twenty percent, in which most physicians
(14:19):
don't have time or the bandwidth to resubmit for authorization, etc.
So this is a system that's broken where we need
people at the front point of care to make decisions
and then empower them through whether it's health savings accounts
or whether it's subsidies. Those subsidies that were shutting down
America last month were actually not going to patients. They claimed.
(14:41):
The left claim that was going to patients. It's not.
It was going to subsidize billion dollar insurance companies c
suites where patients still weren't seeing any of that. And
that's what we need to flip. We need to flip
the script upside down back to what America's about, which
is bread and butter, you know, mom and pop healthcare,
which is what my practice is. I've got eighteen employees,
(15:01):
and I know what it is to run a small business.
I know what I pay for my health insurance. As
I signed my check last you know, once I pay
all my expenses, my payrolls going up. Everything's going up,
and health insurance is going up for my employees. And
yet they're getting worse and worse healthcare.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That's it, right, what you've just said, this is the
that's the nail in the coffin of socialized medicine that
is Obamacare. It's a failure. We have never been paying
more out of pocket Our plans are absolutely you know this.
Our plans are absolute garbage. And then meanwhile, trillions of
our taxpayer dollars are patting the pockets of what I
call the trader's insurance companies. In my opinion, doctor Jasser,
(15:43):
we've got to get government and insurance companies out of
our health care decisions completely. We should be able to
deduct our health care costs on our tax forms. We
should be able to have health sav these accounts that
accrue without any tax penalty and only have catastrophic loss
policies which need to be restored because they were cheap.
(16:06):
Everybody could afford one of those, and they would handle
the proverbial cancer diagnosis or getting hit by a car
or a bus or whatever. If you get elected to Congress,
do you think you can actually convince the Republican Party
to rediscover the free market to replace Obamacare.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Absolutely. And that's why I'm running for Congress is because
I think many of us have forgotten. I mean, actually,
back in the nineties, I'm the son of a physician.
My dad was in practice and he was having a
lot of angina, if you will, about the Contract with
America because the Conservatives went in with the HMOs and others,
and thought that that would be sort of the salvation,
(16:44):
and now we're realizing that it's not, because it just
created a Wall Street metaglomerate that really wasn't elastic to prices,
and just like we see with it and others, with
Facebook and others trying to regulate the industry so that
they can control it. That's what happened with healthcare. The
hospital insurance HMO integration controlled healthcare became a part of
(17:05):
government regulation. And now we have to get back to
our roots of conservatism, which is small business protections, antitrust.
There are so many things. The Stark Law is nonsense
where I can't have investments in various things in healthcare,
physicians can't own hospitals Minnesota. Amy Klobacher was talking about
as a senator, Well, we don't have access to healthcare.
(17:28):
You know, there hasn't been a new hospital in Minnesota
since the eighties. And that's absurd because physicians know where
the gaps are in our communities. I know my community
here in the district. Congressman Stanton has been completely missing
in action, and yet we know that we're suffering with
lack of health care. The left says that there's a
right to healthcare Europe. When you talk about it right,
(17:51):
you need to have access to it. So either ration
through waiting months and months and months, which is what's
beginning to happen, or patients lose their doctor no longer
have access, or you ration through cost and competition and
price elasticity. We have to get back to them, and
I believe I can prosecute the case in Congress to
remind our conservatives and independent of how to make things
(18:14):
affordable again.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
However, many conservatives are left. Folks. We're talking to doctor
Zudi Josser. He is running in the fourth district congressional
race in the state of Arizona. Let me get you
to put on your political hat. In states like Michigan, Minnesota,
even in my home state of Texas, Muslim enclaves are
springing up there imposing Sharia law. We got believe it
(18:36):
or not. And I'm not sure if you've heard this,
doctor Josser, but there are Sharia courts functioning in North
Texas and that's prompted the Texas government to finally do
something about it. And you know, these importees courtesy of Democrats, socialists,
they are using tax payer dollars like in Minnesota to
fund terrorists. We just had a third arrest of one
(18:59):
of these impoorties in the Biden regime, unvetted who was
guess what, supporting terrorism. And then Christy Nome drops this
in a cabinet meeting just two days ago.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Into Minnesota and their fraud on visas and their programs,
fifty percent of them are fraudulent, which means that that
wacko Governor Walls either is an idiot or he did
it on purpose, and I think he's bold.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Sir.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Brought people in there illegally that never should have been
in this country, said they were somebody that they're not.
They said they were married to somebody who was their
brother or somebody else. Fraudulent visa application signed up for
government programs, took hundreds of billions of dollars from the taxpayers.
And we're going to remove them, and we're going to
(19:51):
get our money back, and we're going to this next
year make sure that we only put people in leadership
positions in this country that loved this country.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Fifty five zero percent of the visas in Minnesota alone
are fraudulent, and this is what happened. And I've said,
doctor Joshua, this is what happens. When you put democrats
in charge of anything. You're going to find lawbreakers. You
find a democrat, you find a lawbreaker one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
And you know that's the other aspect of the establishment
that I've been fighting. I've been fighting against the establishment
in my own faith community because the theocrats. You know,
Islam is only fourteen and forty five years old, it
has not gone through an anti theocratic movement. It needs
massive reforms. My family came here escaping dictatorship, be it
(20:35):
military dictatorship in Syria or Islamist dictatorship's theocracy, and Americanism
is the only solution to that. And I can prosecute
that case. And as we saw when I was testifying
to Congress about and God blessed Governor Abbott for declaring
the Muslim Brotherhood a terror organization. And now we see
the President has signed a similar executive order and we're
(20:56):
beginning to finally do things that I was testifying to
Congress four back in twenty fourteen and sixteen and eighteen,
to the Senate and the House telling them to declare
the Muslim Brotherhood of terror organization, and the Holy Land
Foundation trial that was in Dallas basically said this in
two thousand and eight and nine that that board was
funneling money to Hamas. Hamas was a terror organization and
(21:19):
yet inside a so called charity organization. They were then
convicted of conspiring to support Hamas and also aiding and
abetting our enemies on our soil. So, you know, under
the guise of loocism and dei politics and collectivism, the
left empowered a massive anti American, Unamerican movement that took
(21:42):
a ideology which is political Islam and made it into
a race which it isn't. And as I said to
on national television and with us so many times, I said, listen,
it's not just about Muslims. They're going to radicalize the left,
no different than they radicalized Muslims around the world. And
that's why the Kuttars and the Irans are working with China, Russia, etc.
(22:04):
Against Westernism, because Americanism is the only solution to dei
identity politics. We saw BLM and others radicalizing the left,
we now see the aocs and the ilhan Omar's driving
the politics on the left. And if we're going to
get back the center of America. I can flip that script.
(22:25):
I can say, you know what, as a Muslim, there's
nothing more pro Muslim than fighting theocracy. And I would
tell people to go to YouTube and look at my
speech at Oxford in which I argued as a Muslim
that Islam is not compatible with democracy. Muslim should not
come to America and use religious freedom to then operate
enclaves that endorse Shria law, that take away women's rights
(22:48):
and other rights that are simply un American. And it's
time that we had a frank conversation about what it
means to be American and what are the values that
we stand for.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Damn straight. And it's been reported by Christian nomand and
it's been widely reported that this guy that killed the
National Guards woman Sarah Beckstrom, he was radicalized. He came
here from Afghanistan, unvetted. Of course, he had a lot
of baggage already, but then he was radicalized to hate
America by showing up to a Democrat state and learned
(23:19):
from and plugged into this anti American leftist Democrat network
and was radicalized here in left wing Washington. Last thing
I have for you because if you make it to Congress,
you're going to be weighing in on this stuff, the
Venezuelan drug boats. What is your take from thirty thousand
feet up on what the Trump administration is doing to
basically declare these these narco terrorists a threat? And I
(23:42):
think that over one hundred thousand American deaths a year
on average is sufficient enough evidence to say that they
are a threat to our people's lives. What do you
think about the way the Trump administration is handling this?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You know, listen, we're on a border state for two
hundred miles from the border, in the district that I
would like to send Congressman Stanton, who's been missing in
action on all these issues. He voted against empowering our
border patrol. He voted against any type of rule of
law here in our state and federally. And you know,
(24:16):
I can tell you. I talk to folks that are
running drug rehab centers in Arizona and they tell me
that eighty percent of the beds nine ten months ago
when President Trump took over were fentanyl overdosed treatment, etc.
I talked to one of them a month ago and
she told me that it was down to five percent
of the beds already because we've stealed the border because
(24:39):
Fentdel's not running in here. So to tell me that
those narco boats that are bringing in cocaine and other
types of drugs that are killing our citizens by the
thousands in an exponential kind of way, it's not terrorism.
It absolutely is. And to say that this is unique
to President Trump listen anoar Alaucki was a US citizen
in Yemen and the Obama administration targeted him appropriately and
(25:02):
killed him on Yemeny soil without a court, without any
type of judicial process, if you will. We have done
terror strikes in Pakistan and Somalia and elsewhere with drones.
President Obama and Biden committed thousands of those appropriately. They
should have done more, actually, but they didn't. And yes,
(25:22):
I have concerned as a conservative, I would like transparency
and our Congress should do that, and they are doing
that now. But to say that that's not within the
power and it's not appropriate, it's just gaslighting by the
left because they never said anything when President Obama was
doing it globally in the war against those terror organizations
that are threatening us here in America.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, and in my mind. Trump has done it again.
He's actually gotten the Democrats to defend and make excuses
for Narco terrorists who are responsible for killing tens of
thousands of Americans every year with their poison they're pushing
into the veins of our citizens. Doctor Zudi Josser, he's
running for Congress and the fourth Congressional district in Arizona.
(26:04):
If folks want to help you out, doctor Josser, where
can they go?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Please find me at Z four a z Z number,
fouraz dot com. And you know, this is one of
the few swing districts left. So as you look across
the country, we got to keep the House for President Trump.
I'm at the top of the ballot come November because
there's no Senate race this time in Arizona and the
President is not on the ballots, so the congressional races
(26:30):
will be at the top, and this is the district
we can flip and keep the House Republican.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Right on, right on, Thank you, doctor Zudi Josser. I
appreciate it. That right there puts a wrap on this
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