KCAA: The Scene with Doreen (Tue, 29 Apr, 2025)

KCAA: The Scene with Doreen on Tue, 29 Apr, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two dot org.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Love do not.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hey, Hey, USA, What's going on? Welcome to the Scene
with Doreen. I'm your host, Dorian Taylor, setting the scene
each week to help you find out what's happening in music, TV, movies, sports,
the arts, and everything in between. We're proud to be
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The Scene with Doreen dot com, and watch us each
and every week on the nationally syndicated television show The
Daily Flash, available in every major city in the US.
Happy Halloween to most of our people who celebrate that holiday,
and Happy Halloween to my incredible producer Matt Manarkai man.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
A Dorian, Happy Halloween to you too.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Boo boo, No, not boom oh boo.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm supposed to say a ghost.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh that's better, that's better.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, better witch than ghosts.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I'm a very good witch, as most of my exes
will tell you. I'm an excellent, excellent witch. But yeah,
so you know I got me thinking, because I don't
dress up anymore. I'm a little old and I don't
really go to a lot of parties anymore. But you know,
back in the day, what did you dress up as
a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh, of course I dressed up as Wow Lionel from Thundercat.
My dad made me a sword out of wood.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Is that just last year? Yes, you're lying, it's this share.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I was Luke Skywalker one year.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Do you like swords like Luke his lightsaber?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Everybody loved the lightsaber. I mean everybody wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
The lights even girls, they liked the lightsaber.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, what did you dress up? Ass?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I was always very not like really not creative. I
was like a princess or well, remember I grew up
in Buffalo, so our you know, end of October you
could have snow on the ground, so you literally would
have this really cute little costume and then have twenty
layers of coats on top. So you just go as
like a like a coat rack. That's sort of what
everybody goes.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
You would just have this big coat, but then the
only part of your costume you would see is like.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
A little too too on the But then you know,
my mom was over protected, so she would always, you know,
have like big snow boots and everything. So literally it
did not matter what I went as. It was just
getting the candy. I guess, which my dad about. Yeah,
for kids, Yeah, would your parents eat your candy? Not really, Yeah,
my dad would eat a lot of my candy.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
My two youngest they don't even eat candy. They don't
even like candy, so they don't eat any of it.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Really good thing.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Actually, yeah, they don't like soda. They don't drink soda.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Wow, that's really good.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
They go out just for the experience, and well they're old, too,
too old now to do it. But when they did,
they they would separate the candy and give out certain
ones to whoever likes certain things. So I always like
the research pieces.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yes, those are good. And the peanut butter cups, yes,
I like this too.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Anything.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
The question for you, you know, a really good important question.
We ask the good questions here. When is it too
old to go out trick or treating anymore?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I think once, once you get married.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Once you get married, yeah, you're allowed to vote.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think once you're maybe in high school or something.
I don't yeah, maybe, or maybe sophomore in high school.
Is at about fifteen or so.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think at fifteen sixteen that might be a little
too old. I think, what you used to have your
driver's license or you can get your permit. I think
that's probably the end forget.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
That's a good age.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, that should probably be. But I know, I see
kids going around sometimes I don't even call them kids
because I'm not sure they're like young adults now. They
come out and they want the candy, and I'm like, really,
you know, I guess maybe they like it's better than
other things they could be doing. I guess as long
as they're just getting the candy and not tpeeing the
house and stuff. But good for them that they want
to do something at least good. You know, I don't
mind giving them if they want a stupid kit cat bar,
I'll get them a kick kit bar.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
So you know what, though, this year, I think I
should dress up as our guest today because she is
probably one of the most fashionable icons that I've ever
seen in the music industry.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
This would be a good Halloween cushume.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yes, instantly recognizable. When you hear her voice or you
see her, you know exactly who it is.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, well, let's get to it then, all right, Happy Halloween, Matt,
Happy Halloween.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Today on the scene with Garine, I have joining me
one of the most famous Redhead bombshells of all time.
Founding member of the groundbreaking band The b fifty twos, singer,
songwriter and musician, Kate Pearson made her mark as one
half of the girl power duo at the forefront of
the group for over fifty years. There probably isn't a
personal live who hasn't heard her vocals on hits like

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Rock Lobster, Private, Idaho Rome and of course the mega
hit love Shack. Take a listen.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Oh oh, this is where it's at, because after wrapping

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up the Bee fifty two's farewell tour last year and
adding dates to an ongoing Las Vegas residency at the Venetian,
Kate Pearson is now letting her solo voice sore on
her latest album, Radio and Rainbows.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
A multi talented artist in so many genres, Kate's new
album has been called Dazzling Christine and a fun Time
And I am definitely going to have a very fun
time chatting with the Redhead musical goddess on the show today.
So without further Ado. Hello, Kate, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Hey Doreen, thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Oh my pleasure.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
I'm sitting in a very sunlit a little room at
my house in Woodstock, New York, and trying to avoid
like direct sunbeams here, but it's beaming in and.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I think part of that is you. I think you
give off that radiating energy and that beautiful sunbeam.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Thank you so much. I try to radiate joy. I mean,
I don't have to try. I do. I'm a naturally
positive person. You are, you are luckily, and I think
that a lot of songs I write reflect that, and
also the B fifty two songs, even our disaster songs
are positive. They have a you know, positive twist to them.
And Private Idaho is one of those kind of dark

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disaster songs. The hidden Driveway, head of a Stranger, all
these kind of strange um things it conjures up, but
it still makes people feel good.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yes and shout out. You are my Jersey girl. Born
in Weehawken and raised in Rutherford, New Jersey. I am
a Jersey girl too.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
Where are you from?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I am now? I'm living in Mullaca Hill, which is
pretty much outside of Philly, that's in like Gloucester County,
all the way down by Cape May almost we're down
south of the state, Yes, but you're you're the cool
part of Jersey.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
I don't know. Friends from the shore, I think that's
the cool part of New Jersey, but I don't know.
I was raised near New York City, So when I
was sort of a pre hippie chick, sort of a
beat nick chick almost, I used to go to New
York City, take the bus and my friends and I
would go to the village and you know, buy dangle earrings.
And I even played at a folk club once.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Oh, very cool you did. One of your first things,
wasn't it. You were writing folk songs and stuff back
in the day. Like, wasn't that your first experience? You
had a little folk band.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yes, it was called the Sun Donuts. And I grew
up during that era when folk music was were you know,
that was the hit music really so, and then folk
you know, folk rock, and then of course the Beatles
swept in, but topical songs Bob Dylan of course, and
I mean Joni Mitchell was hugely influential, and psychedelic music too,

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of course, But an era when there were topical songs
about politics, about real kind of things that really turned
me on to I guess a lot of it politicized
me listening to Bob Dylan and other artists who were
political kind of hearing about real life events that happened
and trying to correct the the wrongs, you know, to

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make it right, like a lot of Bob Dylan songs did.
Like anyway, we will go all into that, but I think,
you know, it made me aware of what's around me.
And speaking of love Shack that you just played and
I love a good medley that song we just played
at this Jimmy Carter tribute in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh very nice. Yeah, he just turned one hundred, He
just had his hundredth birthday.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
And they have early voting in Georgia now and he
said he was just hanging on there to vote for
Kamala Harris and he was able to do that. So
I'm very excited about that.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
That is wonderful and I you know, you did have
quite the journey, but because before the b fifty twos,
you were a journalism major at Boston University, so.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
That didn't go too.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Far well you you like, how long were you doing
that and then where, because you know, from like nineteen
seventy six, you're all in a Georgia bar or nineteen
seventy five even chatting over drinks and poof the B
fifty twos are born.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Well. Like many journeys, it was a circuitous one. And
after college Kent State happened, I wanted to get out
of America. I went and traveled through Europe with a
friend and then I was alone for a while, and
I stayed for almost a year and a half. And
when I came back to the United States. It's too
long a story to tell, but I found up in Athens, Georgia,

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and I worked as a paste up artist on the
Athens Banner Herald, so I had a little bit of
my German journalism major to use there. But then the
band got together. We jammed one night over a flaming
volcano and we didn't have money for food, so we
just had the five straws. Actually we had six straws
because our friend Owen Scott joined us, and then we

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went to his house to jam. He went to write
a paper. He's a clinical psychologist now, so we went
to the basement and jammed to came up with this
song called Killer Bees, and then we just knew it was.
We were a band then, and it kind of set
the whole template for how we write together by jamming.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
That is amazing. It just to all fall together. A
lot of those things in my research of you were
kind of like things that just you can't deny, Like
the name of the band. I read that the Bee
fifty two's was actually conceived in a dream with Keith.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
He strictly and thought of that. He had an idea
of these women with beehive hairdos playing organs, and someone
whispered in his dream, who's that band, and a voice
answered the b fifty two's. So he suggested that name,
and we just thought, wow, that's a it's original, and
it's also supposed to be. It was a slang term

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for beehive hairdos in South or at least among our group.
It's kind of like a nose cone, and so that stuck.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yes, and it's kind of cool.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
I didn't nobody argued it. It kind of just you.
He said it, and everyone was like, yeah, that's the name.
I mean, it was sort of serendipitous. It kind of
just all came together.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
There are many things we agree on. I mean a
lot of things artistically, you know, oh we've just everyone
has an opinion, but that thing just was yes, everyone said, yes,
that's it. And we actually thought of changing it when
we toured in Japan. One of the first tours we
did was in Japan, and we thought, oh my god,
that name is not really to fly there. But people

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sort of got it. The people that came to the well,
they made a poster with them dropping wigs instead of bombs,
so they got it.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yes, they got it now. But I also heard that
that was the only country where it wasn't a hit.
Love Shack wasn't a hit.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Exactly, and I think I think it's because of the name.
I really do think that.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, that's weird. It would have to be if it
was everywhere else. And I know, yeah, you would have
to think that it had something to do with that.
But you know what, it was something that has become
pop culture history and you know what, Oh well, so
one country didn't get it.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
I'm sad because I loved Japan and I actually toured
doing us. I was part of a Japanese band called Nina,
and we toured all over Japan and it was on Sony.
It went to number one, and so I got a
chance to go back to Japan and people remembered Bigo Juni,
they remembered the B fifty twos, So I guess it
made us some impact there.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
But yes, well you've made an impact everywhere. I mean.
And also I do have to mention the Bee fifty
twos have an undeniably distinct and instantly recognizable fashion sense.
And I want to know, because I couldn't find the
answer to this, who was the mastermind responsible for the
styling and overall image of the band?

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Well, I think that's the genius of if I may
say genius together, we're a genius, and is that we
never really have a leader. We never had a leader,
and no one ever made any decisions about fashion except
let's just go to the thrift store and find whatever crazy,
wild outfits we can find. And there was a wig
box and this thrift store called the Potter's House in Athens,

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and we'd actually, you know, fight over the twenty five
cent wig. The aim was not to look beautiful, it
was just to you know, just be I don't know,
just fun. We did it for fun, and we wore
crazy outfits that we found at the thrift store. So
I think that was kind of happening in a lot
of small cities and towns in America, this kind of
discovery of thrift store clothing and kind of early punk stuff.

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So it was just nothing that we never We still
don't coordinate and somehow magically, Oh we're all wearing stripes,
they're all wearing gold.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
So you all have like minded individuals that come together
as a group. It's I don't want to say it's
again the serendipitous thing, that's something beyond just a band,
where it's just there's a power here behind it, driving it.
And I mean think about it, how over fifty years.
I mean there has to be something driving this.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
It's a mind meld.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
I love it well today and the cementary and I
am a very shiny, happy person chatting with the wonderfully
talented singer, songwriter and musician Kate Pearson from the B
fifty two s and so much more. When we return,
we talk about some of her incredible collaborations and her
creative process. Stay right there because we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3 (15:34):
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(16:42):
back to the scene with Dorene. I'm your host, Dorian Taylor,
and I am chatting today with the incomparable, instantly recognizable
voice of the new wave group The B fifty two's
Kate Pearson. Out of break, you heard a little clip
of RIM's nineteen ninety one hit single Shiny Happy People,
featuring Kate's vocal prowess. Kate, you've said that you find
your power in collaboration with other artists like Ram, c

(17:05):
Iggy Pop, The Ramones, Debbie Harry. The list is quite extensive.
Some artists are guarded in their creative process. So what
makes the process of creating with others empowering for you?

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Well, I think because the B fifty two's. I mean,
when I was in the Sundownuts and after that even
I wrote my own songs. But once the B fifty
two started and it was this, like we said, a
mind meld collaboration, I kind of felt like I couldn't
write outside of the band, and it was a in
my own head really because I tried to write, but

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then the band had a lull for a while, we
took breaks. That's one reason I guess we're able to
stay together for so long because we took long breaks
and I started writing a solo album. This is one
that never came out, although one song on my new
album is from that way back time. It's called Always
Till Now. And Yeah, I just think because the band collaborates,

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the B fifty two's write together by jamming, and I
kind of use that method with other collaborations, and once
the B fifty Two's did there, I felt Once I
did this Japan project too, I just felt, oh, I
can collaborate with anyone. If I can collaborate with a
band that we don't speak of the same language, and
it just really worked. It just worked so well, and

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I felt like, Wow, I can collaborate with anyone, and
I love doing that. I'd love that kind of creative process,
the creative juices flowing together. But I've also been writing
some songs just on my own, just with piano and guitar,
and you know, I love doing that too. But there's
just something about collaborating, and it's just a thrill when
you get together with someone and they have their idea.

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Most of the time. Wore my previous solo record guitars
and microphones in this record, as well, the collaborator would
have the instrumentation. And that's the way Cosmic Thing was written.
After Ricky passed away in nineteen eighty five and we
took a big break because we didn't know if we
were coming back together again. We did. Keith wound up
doing all the instrumentation and then friend Cindy and I

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would jam on the vocals, melodies, lyrics, the harmonies, and
you know, then we would he would make like a track.
So I think that really works well for me. I
get inspired by hearing chord changes and speaking of Shiny
Happy People, I just am getting together a live show.
I've done two live shows so far, and we included
Shiny Happy People. It was so much fun to sing it.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Good Good. It's a very iconic song for you. I mean,
I know that it also introduced you again to another
new generation. You keep reinventing yourself over time, and now
you're into, you know, with Michael Stipe and Rim and
I mean, like a whole different kind of genre even I.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Know of Arim kind of tried to disavow that song
because it was just not really representative of most of
their work, which is mostly pretty serious. But it is
you gonna admit it really makes you happy, that song.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
It does. I got to say before even meeting you today,
I have always used that as an exam like it's
a generic like you know, you say band aid or
Q tip and it means like all of cotton swabs. Well,
whenever I talk about happy songs versus more of the melancholy, darker,
you know, minor case, I always say shiny happy people
song that's like my That is what I use as

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the reference. So it has broken through to its own
kind of living entity at this point.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
And the video is it's super fun too. It's a
great video, and Michael Stipe did the choreography and everything,
so it's a.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Throwback to Like I mean, I don't know if pee
Wee Herman was even an inspiration at that time of
Pee Wee's Playhouse. I just feel a little bit of
Peewee in that.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Maybe because I love I loved pee Wee's Playhouse. I
would get up no matter how much I partied on
Friday night, I would get up Saturday to watch and
we were able to become friends with Paul Rubins later
on Oh Good, It's very sad that he passed.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yes love and Missy Vaughan the bufont I mean a
little bit of the B fifty two, but not you
know a little bit of that.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
A homage, yes for sure.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
But I speaking of inspiration though. I fun fact that
I found out and I want to confirm with you.
I heard that your tune rock Lobster inspired John Lennon
to get back into the studio after his hiatus to
record what would become his final album, Double Fantasy. Is
that true?

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yes, that's true. I mean, of course, we didn't know
it till later when we read the interview we heard.
There was an interview in Playboy and some other publication
where he told the story of hearing he was in
a club I think it was in Jamaica or the
Bahamas and he heard the Cindy's part at the end
of rock Lobster, which is totally Yoko Ono inspired, because

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we all love yogo Ono and Cindy did that, and
also the fish sounds where there are a lot of
in there, and he heard that and he knew. He said,
you know, to the wife, grab the guitar, we're gonna
you know, our time has come back again, because people
get you now, people get us now.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Amazing.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
There was just so I could not believe that he
is so much my hero. I love the Beatles, but
John Lennon was my favorite. And we all love Yogo too.
And we had a twenty fifth anniversary concert and she
came on stage and sang with us, and she did
that whole thing at the end of Rock Lobster and just, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Well it had to be. I mean, you must be
desensitized at this point to like these pinch me moments.
I mean, your life is so amazing and all the experiences,
but that had to be a pinch me moment to
have her on there singing that song in full circle.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
It's still pinching me to me right now. I mean
it's something I can't even believe.

Speaker 7 (22:37):
You know.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
It's just when you feel like somehow you'r you know,
musical hero, and not just a musical hero, but in
their kind of yoga and John's kind of stand for
peace and all that they've done, you know, to feel
like he even heard us is just so thrilling, and.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
To inspire his final work. I mean that is just
like a goosebump for me. I get the goosebumps when
I when I even thinking about that. That's quite an
honor to have.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
Well.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
On that note, I want to take a pause because
I don't think we can come back with anything better
than that. So let's take a pause and come back
because I am chatting with founding member of the B
fifty twos, singer, songwriter vocalist Kate Pearson. When we do
come back, we talk about making pop culture history and
the milestone anniversary of one of Rolling Stones Magazine's five
hundred Greatest Songs of All Time. Stick around. We'll be

(23:24):
right back.

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Speaker 3 (25:07):
Okay, welcome back to the Seawet, Zuren. I am your
hoster and Taylor and I've had the honor of talking
with the incredible singer songwriter musician Kate Pearson the B
fifty twos. You know you have made history when you're
in the Simpsons.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
I really being in a crossword puzzle.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Ooh that's another moment. That's another pinch me moment. We
were talking about the Simpsons.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
That was amazing. Glove Slap and we were also in
the Flintstone second movie, which was really fun.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yes you were, and I gotta give props. I don't
know who came up with it, but they called you
the b C fifty twos.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
I think that is so cute that that was a
really clever movie in the sets were just amazing.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Now was a lot of that CGI or did they
You actually were around this world of the Flintstones.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yes, everything was real. We went there was a quarry
in California. Every detail. I mean, if you were there,
you would have seen more that was in the you
know movie because the signage and bred and I got
to write one of those little carts that you motivate
with your feet. That was really really fun. So we
had a blaspheing in that movie.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
That was hilarious, very cool. Now, speaking of Glove Slap
or love Shack and getting satisfaction, happy anniversary. Love Shack
was released thirty five years ago in nineteen eighty nine.
It's undoubtedly be fifty two's biggest commercial hit, and yet
I heard it was the last song to be recorded
on the album and almost didn't make it on it.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Almost didn't make it because it didn't really have that chorus.
A lot of our songs, since we write by jamming,
we'd have all these great parts and we put the
parts together like a collage, and you know that part
happened once the love shack and then the love shack
that was the chorus, and I said, I think we
should have that more than once. And anyway, I mentioned

(27:00):
it to John was who produced that song, and he
did half of the Cosmic Thing record and Nle Rodgers
to the other half. So we rehearsed before recording it,
and Don was also heard that he said, oh, yeah, yeah,
that's of course we have to put that in. And
it just came together then because before it was just
just wasn't you know, gelling, It wasn't right, and Keith

(27:22):
Stricklan was like, I know, there's something something missing, and
I just knew what it was. So once we put
that in there, bam, it just it just seemed like, wow,
this this could be a hit. But of course we
didn't know it. And when we wrote Cosmic Thing we
even said out loud, we don't care if this record
is a hit. We're just doing this to heal from
Ricky's death and to kind of bring you know, we

(27:43):
just realized how precious it was that we had each
other and that we were still able to create. So
it was a surprise that it was a hit, and
it actually was a little difficult to get airplay, but
thank god for college radio and independent radio who played it.
And then it's we started touring and started playing smaller clubs,
and then it started, you know, going up the charts,

(28:04):
and then we started playing bigger places and pretty soon
we were touring for a year and a half.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
So amazing. Now do you ever think about how your
career path might have been different if the song just
didn't end up on the album?

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Uh? Well, Rome was a hit, yes, but yes, that
would have been really different. I mean, I think to
have one song that if you said have you heard
the B fifty two's and people said, oh, and you
said love Shack and they went, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Every school dance, every single school dance, middle school, high school,
that was the song and it got everybody on the
dance floor and my generation, generations after me, that's the song.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
And weddings, I mean, Lobster really sticks with people too,
But and Rome, of course in private Idaho and Planet Claire.
There are a lot of songs, but love Shack is
the one pretty much that everyone's heard, and Fred introduces
it sometimes to say, other people have covered this song,
but you know at wedding bands do it, but we
do it better.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
I would think so. And you know how many times
has it been done? I wish somebody could calculate that
for karaoke in a karaoke bar, you know, And I
can't even imagine how many times that's been about.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
How they do it, how they you know, there's a
part for everyone, I guess in that book. But I
still enjoy doing that. When we play live and we're
doing these Vegas residencies and of course we have to
play love Shack and rock Lobster, people would just you know,
you have to play it. But it never gets old
to me because the beat and the rhythm and just

(29:34):
something about it that's fun to dance too. So I
really enjoy It's always like it's new somehow, even though
we played it countless times.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I was going to ask that, but you've sort of
asked and answered that question where you know, a lot
of people have mixed feelings about their big hit, the
one that you know, they're mostly known by and sometimes
it's like a double edged sword where they have to
play it, but do they really love it? But it's
nice to hear that you do still enjoy.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
I'm super grateful that we had a hit so recognizable.
And also when anyone plays it, and sometimes, you know,
you enter a club or not that I'm going to
clubs much anymore, but you know, you go somewhere and
they think, oh, let's play love Shack. You know, if
you don't really want to listen to it, but then
I can't help but dance and kind of smile when

(30:21):
I hear it.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, And don't we need more of that right now?
In this world? We need to smile and laugh and
have a good time and just not worry for five minutes.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
And I think, yeah, I think that's what the B
fifty two's like. One of our legacy I like to
think of after time has passed and we used to think, oh,
no one's taking our lyrics seriously or whatever, But now
I think the legacy that we have has been to
bring joy and happiness to people. I mean, to be
able to go to a concert or listen to music
and kind of forget about your troubles, you know, to

(30:51):
really just have fun. I mean, having fun is really
something essential, I think, and.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
So many people don't know how to do it anymore.
I mean it's kind of crazy that we would think
it would just be an innate quality that people could
just always find the fun in their heart, and some
people have a very hard time doing it.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
I think it's hard now, and I think it's hard
for young people with all the distractions and social media
and politics that are swirling around and just it's a
crazy time. But there's still lots of joy and lots
of great music, and lots of great people.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Amen, Amen, and great things. So speaking of great people,
I do have to say fun fact Love Shaq even
gave RuPaul his big break. The music video featured Rue Paul,
who was relatively and unknown at the time.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Yes, we knew him way back when he was in
a band called pit Any hedn't say the name.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
But.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
That it's called Wee Wee pole it he's oh, I
mean right when we first met him in Atlanta, he
was just a superstar right off the bat. But we
asked him to be in our video, and also Lady
Buddy was in the video. Yes, drag queen, but.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
You know, you've been a very vote You've been vocal
about discrimination against drag artists. And ironically, when you were
first starting out in the New York underground scene, they
had a rumor that you and Sydney were drag queens.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Well, I guess we were in a way. I mean,
let's just say we're in drag with our wigs and stuff,
and we all kind of were. But yeah, there was
a rumor that we were from England. We drag queens,
I guess because no one could imagine a band from Athens,
Georgia coming up and creating such havoc.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
You know what, it was time, it needed to be done,
and it.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Was happening in all these little and you know, smaller
cities in Akron, Ohio, and Athens, Georgia and all these
places where this creativity was just because it because punk
and New way whatever you want to call. It was
so much about doing it yourself and just starting from
scratch and having fun and wearing whatever. And it wasn't

(32:58):
really that sort of menacing thing that it's made out
to be, you know, just.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Right, I agree it had an image. I had a
punk band on not that long ago, and they were
talking about how they had this image that people would
come to their concerts. They didn't know how to dress.
They didn't know in the eighties, they didn't know what
to do because they didn't know what punk was. They
really didn't understand. They came in trash bags. They just
didn't know what to wear, you know, So you kind
of taught to the mainstream, which kind of is an

(33:24):
interesting point. You've always appealed to fans, especially in the
beginning that were outside the mainstream, and they embraced you
very early on. But then how did you reconcile the
two things when suddenly songs like Love Shack and Rome
were topping the charts and you became mainstream.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Well, there was the eighties and that was you know,
when we look back on a lot of people look
back on what their look was in the eighties and
feel like, ooh, but I just loved the big hair
and I loved all the exaggerated look of the eighties.
So I think just from punk to new wave to eighties,
you know, we kind of went through all those eras
and even into now. So I think I think we're unique.

(34:03):
We don't really fit into any category. Whenever I see
a documentary or something about punk or New Way, we're
never in it because we're just sort.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Of you are your own you were your own genre. Yeah,
and you know, I see that even in your new music,
which we're going to get to, but but I do
see that that has influenced you. You really touch on
so many different genres, and back in the day that
wasn't usually embraced because they wanted to put you in
a box and this is what you are, and it
was easy to put a bow on it. But now
it's you know, it's applauded when you have an eclectic

(34:32):
kind of sound.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's good to be able to.
I mean now, especially now you can access and young
people especially have access to every genre all, you know,
through streaming and whatever you think about streaming, since we
don't really get much revenue from streaming, but I do
love streaming in that you can access world music and
African music, just any kind of music you want. It's

(34:56):
at your fingertips. And it's like now it's not really
even dated because there it is all there on your menu.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Incidentally, a trash bag is always a fashion option.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I love it. I love it and shout out to Glad.
I want an endorsement now because you know, Glad trash
bags were coming for you.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
But you're right personally, I have never wore a trash bag,
but I think Debbie Harry wore a trash bag.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I had her. I had Chris nine on the show
not so long ago, and we, yes, we were talking
all about not about trash bags, but we did talk
about Blondie and everything, and I know that you had
a very special connection. You do have a very special
connection with Debbie.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Love her. She is the coolest chick ever.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yes, I do want to before we go to break
because I was I had this as an alternate question,
but I really kind of want to know. At one
point the attention shifted away from the focus being on
Fred and it really sought out you and Cindy and
put you in the spotlight with more lead vocals, especially
on Rome where Fred didn't even sing at all. Was
that our conscious effort to make that evolution or did

(35:59):
it just naturally progress that way?

Speaker 5 (36:01):
I think, well, we made a big effort to even
though it's pretty free form our jams, we did make
an effort to balance things. And I think you know,
there have been sort of always been since the beginning
girl songs. I mean there's fifty two girls and hero
Worship and all the songs that we Deadbeat club, the

(36:21):
all the songs that you know, the girl songs, and
Fred is sort of does the narrative narrative and a
lot of the songs of the Bee fifty two so
and then a lot of things we do vocals back
and forth take a part, but a lot of the
songs also have Fred as the main sort of narrator
of the song. So I think it's important to have
a balance, to have some of the girl songs too.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
I love it, and it's sold. It was very popular.
I gotta tell you, look at Rome. I mean that's
also celebrating this thirty fifth anniversary this year, and I
mean that was just the two of you and it
was a huge hit.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Yeah, And the lyrics were written by our friend Robert Waldrup,
who has written he has written some others for the
beefifty twos, so it was easier to write in a
sort of more regular format than a usual B fifty
two song, which sometimes is a little chaotic. These song
structures not typical, but this was a little more typical

(37:13):
because it was the verse chorus, and you know it
was a little bit more standard.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yes, what would they say radio friendly? I guess they
would use the radio friendly as a term. Well on
the sea with today, I am chatting with founding member
of the B fifty two singer, songwriter, musician and now
solo artist Kate Pearson. When we come back, we dive
into her newest solo album and we wrap it all up.
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(39:51):
welcome back to the Scene with Dorine. I am your host,
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the incomparable singer, songwriter and musician Kate Pearson. Come out
of break you just got a Little Taste of Evil Love,
her second single off her new solo album, Radio and Rainbows. Kate,
congratulations on your new solo album, Radio and Rainbows. All

(40:11):
the songs are amazing. But I was really drawn into
the song I just played coming out of break Evil Love.
It seems like a complete departure from your normal message
of positivity which we talked about. Was it fun? Was
it fund on out the darker side?

Speaker 12 (40:26):
Oh? Yes.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
I don't really have a revenge fantasy against anyone, but
I worked with I collaborated with Blue McCauley. He was
an amazing songwriter and he's an artist, a solo artist
as well, and we were I came in with this
idea of a forgiveness, the song about forgiveness, and it
wound up being evil love. And that's that's the power
of collaboration when you minds, you know, meet and he

(40:50):
was like, hmm, forgiveness, what kinds of love are there?
And then I said evil You know, I went through
this whole list and finally is an evil love And
he said that's it. And then the storage unfolded and
he did come up with that Lola, that's a sort
of a spooky Rosemaries Baby.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
I love it, and the music video is so cool
with the dark hair, you're going to more of the
brunette look and dark jump jet black and it's it's
a cool departure. It's very cool.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
John Stapleton did my friend did that whole video and
I just did it on a green screen and he
did the makeup as well, and it was so much
fun when he did with that, putting me in the
you know, a hotel and this you know, scary vibe
of it. I love Halloween. I'm wearing my owl necklace
and the B fifty twos are going to be doing
a Halloween show in Awesome See, and then we're going

(41:41):
to do a Day of the Dead show in Chicago.
So I'm already ramping up for Halloween. But that song,
I also have a song called every Day is Halloween?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yes you do.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
So I love the Halloween theme. But this was fun.
Evil Love was fun because it was a story and
I don't I haven't really written any songs like that
that really had a story line that wasn't really connected
to me. Usually if I write a story song, it's
somehow about something in my past, and this one just
was like a little Hitchcock film The.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
War, Lana Turner meets Psycho. I think a little bit,
you know, it was a little that dark, you know,
film noir kind of you know, even a little true
detective going on. But it was. It was dark and brooding.
And I am a big fan of minor keys, and
it is interesting because you don't really record songs in
minor keys, do You're mostly major.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Keys, mostly major keys. Yeah, and I love I mean,
I do love that Atmospher's spric song me too. I
love Lana del Rey, that kind of atmosphere where you
kind of feel a sweet sadness, and this one is
a little more upbeat.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yes, maniacal sadness more instead of melancholy sadness. Yes, you're
a little more Yes, But I guess it could draw
on your you are, You've done a lot of acting,
and you you have even on stage, you are acting
on stage. People don't realize there is a persona that
you have on stage. So it does draw into a
little bit more of maybe your acting skills.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Yes, Yeah, I love doing the video. It was really
fun doing that. And yeah, I think, you know, in
my other life, I'm a sort of nerd bird watcher
gardener me too.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
I know we're very like you know sisters on that.
I am a huge gardener, nature love all of that.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
And you know, health food, nut and stuff. So, you know,
the B fifty two's the persona. All of us in
the band really have a you know, we we're kind
of quiet off stage, but then once we get on there,
we just come to you know, come to a different
part of ourselves. And that's really fun because, you know,
just being able to sort of express this creative persona
on stage. And I don't find it being like a

(43:47):
split you know, too much of us, of a split
personality kind of thing. But it's just fun when you
when you can get on stage and or write, you know,
when you're writing something that's deeply from your subconscious or
the collective unconscious, and it comes out and it is
you know, it's always exciting to see what comes out.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yes, and speaking of that, you wrote and recorded two
of your perhaps most personal songs on this album. It
was Beauty of It All and Higher Place. I mean
those are really deeply personal.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
Yes, And that's again the magic of just kind of
what the unexpected when you're writing songs. I was in
an emotionally abusive relationship, and when I got out of that,
I met my wife Monica. So Higher Place is really
about that, and also finding women finding their power, which
I did and found joy and power after that. And

(44:39):
then you know, the beauty of it all is about
meeting Monica and our relationship. So and also I have
a song called Wolves from Guitars and Microphones that's about
our relationship too.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Now does she contribute? I heard I read somewhere that
she actually contributed some on this album.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
Well, the first album, Guitars and Microphones, she did the video,
she did the cover art. Oh wow, she's focusing on
her own art. She just pttery and she makes jewelry.
She's silversmith, so she's really focusing on that. So she
didn't really take so much of a role in this album.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
So well, I mean, very very talented talent finds talent talent.
You know, I always say that the talented souls find
each other in the cosmos through all the other like
the quagmire of crap. You know, the talent finds each
other and the true good souls find each other.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
But she also inspired me because when I worked with Cia,
we had met Sia and befriended her. But Monica was
the one. She knew that I had done this solo
record previously that never came out, and she knew I
wanted to do one, and she had really kind of
asked Sea, you know, would she collaborate with me? And
that's what started the whole ball rolling for my first
solo record. And I want to put out some of

(45:49):
the songs from this the one that never got out.
But I have slowly, you know, been kind of mining
that as well and writing new songs. So I love
the creative process. It just doesn't end well.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
You got to mention though, your voice. How is it
after all these years your voice sounds even better? If
that's possible then it did thirty years ago. What is
your secret?

Speaker 5 (46:10):
I do feel like I've tapped into something, especially on
Evil Love.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Especially on Evil Love, Yes.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
For a powerful high notes. Yeah, I think working with
Blue it really and Chris Braid and other collaborators that
just brought out this kind of local power that sort
of was a little bit It's like this much was
not used yet. And I do warm up. I really
try to take care of my voice. The B fifty
twos have worn any your monitors for a long time,

(46:36):
which really saves your voice. But I worked with a
voice teacher during cosmic things. She sadly passed away. Her
name was Janet Frank and she taught me how to
just sort of use the breath and not to ever
strain the throat. So that was something that really saved me,
I think.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
And yes, a lot of artists today they don't understand that,
and then you hear about nodes and vocal damage and
having to take breaks from tour. I won't mention any
but yeah, they don't. It's sad that some people don't
learn that your vocal cords are your instrument and you
have to take care of them, just like you would
a violin or you know, a guitar, and they don't

(47:11):
realize that.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
It's an instrument and you have to take care of it.
And it's kind of like working out as well. You
can never just leave it, you know, you just really
always need to fine tune.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Yeah, and I do love that you've taken the chest
voice and you've been able to almost bring it up
to a full chest voice on some of these higher notes,
and it's a very full round sound on a very
upper register kind of thing that's hard to do for
young people. I mean, good for you, girl, I mean
that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Well, you know it's hard for me to do. I
did an acoustic, very small event for Pause Unlimited. It's
a shelter for older dogs and it was local here
in near Woodstock and I just Ken Muri, who's been
accompanied me. He plays with the BFD two's and Tracy
Wornmworth also has been playing on my solo shows who
she's played with the BFG twos since Cosmic Thing. But anyway,

(48:00):
it was just canon me and we did this acoustic
set and it's very hard for me to sing softly,
and you didn't have the guitar plugged in or anything.
So I really have to learn, i think, to be
able to also sing.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Softly pianissimo, fortissimo, right, all the terms.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Yeah, you have to learn all the just belting it out,
and I do you know, I have soft moments on
this record where I sing more softly, but to really
like take it all down a notch, you know, and
even the belting parts, you know, just kind of be
able to sing in a softer voice.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
It's definitely different placement where you have to you know,
where you put the voice and how much air you
put behind it. It does change a lot when you
go acoustic, it's different.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Wow, is it true though? I want to say, is
it true that your solo album. I heard rumors that
your next solo album may lean more towards alternative country.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Yes, I'm thinking that. But you know, then, what you
were talking about having all different genres. I keep writing
these songs that don't fit into that. I have already
have a few country songs I've writt and then there
are a couple that just have come up that really
aren't country. So I always admired Beck the way he
was able to have, Oh, put all different genres into
one album. And I'm not sure what I'm going to do,

(49:11):
but I'm just letting the creative sort of energy flow
and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yeah, and you know what, put out a single. You
don't always have to do an album. You want to
do a country I think put out a single. The
world of singles right now, I mean they of albums
have kind of died. Unfortunately. I hope it does come back.
I love the storytelling of a full album, but no
one listens.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
That way anymore. And I was even thinking, wow, are
we going to make CDs? Well, a record company did
make CDs, but have a CD player.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
It's true. I was going to hand them out for
a certain event. I was going to do a charity
event and was going to give everyone in a goodie
bag a CD. And I was like, how are they
going to play this?

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Right?

Speaker 5 (49:50):
Well, it's good just to have.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, it looks nice. But other than that, I mean,
Vinyl is making a comeback, so maybe some Vinyl, but
I think a lot of the fans of B fifty
twos would appreciate Vinyl. But you know, a new johnas.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Solo record and it looks great. Yeah, the album cover
looks really great. I'm really happy with it.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
It doesn't I have to be honest. I do own
a record player, so I still have the old school
record player.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Oh, I've got a boom box. I've got tape players.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
I even found an old like DAT player in a box,
but that's not coming back.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Well, I just want to say, I am sure you're
still riding high off the recent release of this Radio
and Rainbows, But when you get a moment to catch
your breath, what is next on tap for you? I
know you're performing. Now you're going to do some acoustics shows.
What's coming up for you?

Speaker 5 (50:34):
Well, I'm not doing an acoustics show. I'm doing a
show with I started out doing one solo show with
Tracy on bass and Ken Murray playing guitar and keyboard
switches back and forth depending on the song, and then
we just this last show we did in Kingston, New
York for an OH Positive festival. I added drums, cool
and just not really loud, although it's hard to say

(50:57):
to the drummer, don't play loud, but it really worked.
I think it really needed it. So I'll be doing
some solo shows. And the B fifty twos is in
said doing another Vegas residency, and we have the Halloween
show and we're still We just did a moss Wood
Meltdown show a John Waters Festival in Oakland, California, and

(51:19):
that was a blast.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Oh yeah, have fun.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
So there was some punk bush Tetra's played and it
was just a it's really fun. We love getting together
still and we still love each other and it's still
wonderful we all get together. So it's still mothership. But
I'm really just thrilled to be doing a solo shows.
It's really a trip.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
It's really it's nice you're having your voice out there.
I know that you've wanted to do this for a
really long time, and for whatever reason, you didn't feel
it was the right time. But it is now, and
it's great that your voice is soaring out there and
your own message is getting out there.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 13 (51:51):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
One question, just curiosity. Is your keyboard still at the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame now?

Speaker 5 (51:58):
That whole? Yes, that that was at the met.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
They went to the mat and then they moved it
right to the right to the one in Cleveland. Is
it still there?

Speaker 5 (52:05):
It's still there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
So what I really want to know is your keyboard
is good enough to be in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame. But the B fifty twos haven't gotten
in yet. What the heck is going on there?

Speaker 5 (52:15):
Well, we're waiting.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
I always wonder what goes into that. Matten and my producer,
Matt and I always do a recap of the year
and we announced like the winners of you know who's
inducted that year, And I'm always baffled a little as
to who and if the B fifty twos aren't in.
I don't know who should be in. I swear I know.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
But at the same time, you have to look about
look at who's not there that would give you of like, well, okay,
well this is all these amazing people are not in
the Hall of Fame. So it's I just don't really
believe in competition. Yeah, they're grading musicians and stuff, but
you know, I wouldn't mind being in there. That would

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be great. The go Gos got in, so I think
we're next. Sure.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
I mean I had Andrew Ferris from in excess on
here they're still not in there. And another one. You know,
if they were playing huge stadiums and if they're not in,
I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
So Canell, why do all of us be in it?

Speaker 3 (53:06):
I agree? I agree. I know they want to keep it,
you know, like this thing. But you're right, I think
certain people shouldn't even be looked at before others have
their way in. But that's my personal opinion. And I'm
going to be on the B fifty two's campaign to
get you guys in there because you deserve it more
than anybody on that list. I believe you guys deserve it.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Thank you do well.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
You're groundbreaking. You really really paved the way and did
something that nobody had the courage to do in that time,
and you did it with such amazing class, and your
legacy is just incredible.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
Well, I think breaking the also the male dominated kind
of although it's not so much now, but I mean
there was a time when the rock and roll was
just so male dominated, and you know that's changed a lot.
So I'm happy for that and just rock on.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Amen and power to the women. I mean, really, there
needs to be still more. We still have some catching
up to do. I still see the inequalities there, but
we're getting closer.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Well, radio, I still see a lot of inequality in
radio play when I'll hear ten male artists and then
they'll play one, especially in country radio.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Yes, I actually had someone who wrote a book about
that whole you know, the feminism of rock and roll
in these pioneers that came in and how crazy it
was several years ago where they wouldn't there was a quota,
you know, you couldn't have we couldn't. They couldn't play
a certain amount of female It's not back.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
To back either, So no, no, still there, I think
because when I listened to radio, and I listened to
radio all the time. You know, I frequently think, well,
when are they going to play a woman. I'm just
like waiting, amen and men.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
And there's so many amazing women out there right now
with their voices that need to be heard, including yours.
And I am so glad I got to hear you
for the best hour. What a treat for me. I
want everyone to get the new album, Radio and Rainbows,
available at Katepearson dot com and available anywhere you can
buy and stream music. Go on her website, check out

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her tour dates. I just I just want to thank
you for the gift you have given to the musical
community and to the world in general. You are You're
just incredible.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Thank you, thank you so much. Thanks for having me on.
I really enjoyed talking to you.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
And thank you so much Kate for being on the
show today. Thank you bye. Thank you to my guest today,
the incredible Kate Pearson, and thank you again for tuning
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in the middle of a twenty five hour demonstration.

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