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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nineteen thirty two.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
That word.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Coming to you from the City of Brotherly Love. It's
the scene with Dorene going behind the scenes were the
biggest stars and getting to know the person behind the
personality time Shadow Stevens and no, here's your host, Billboard
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charting recording artist and reigning queen on the scene, Dorene Taylor.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hey, welcome the City of Brotherly Love. Yes, right here
and outside of Philadelphia. And it is a great day
because I'm here with my incredible producer, Matt Manarica.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm Matt a Dorien. How's it going good?
Speaker 5 (00:54):
How's it going with you?
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Good?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I mean, kay complain.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I love that we get the City of Brotherly Love
to our introduction now with Shadow Stevens. I just still
can't believe. It's like a pinch me moment that we
have Shadow Stevens with American Top forty, the biggest thing,
like replacing Casey Kaseum.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
My god. And yeah, he's doing our introduction.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah when you were when you were listening to him
years and years ago, you probably could never imagine that
you have a show. And then he would do the
intro for that show.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I know, and you have to hear it every week,
and it's good. If I got to hear something every
single week, I'm glad it's that. Yeah, yeah it is.
And you know, I gotta give props to city, your
brother they love. I could have said anything, but you
know what, I want to be proud of Philadelphia because
we have so much to be proud of right here.
Oh yeah, super Bowl champions reigning. Gotta hold on to
the title this year. I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I think they will. Yeah, I think they got a
good shot. Good shot is anybody I.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Was gonna say, probably better?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So yeah, And you know, we were trying to think
of all the great things that come from Philly.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Of course, cheese steaks, you gotta say that.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, you know, pork roll and scrap pretzels, soft pretzl
water ice.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
Yeah, that's another one.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
And you know, I.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Think something happened here historically, maybe once upon a time,
but who knows about that something something something, But you
know what, I think I think that happened individuality.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Like the birthplace of the country. I think, you know,
something like that.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Something on.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But we do know cheese steaks though, Screw that, let's
just talk about the cheese steaks. Yeah, and bad drivers.
Bad drivers on the schoogle, that's all I am.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I always thought, yeah, maybe it's just this area, but
being in a lot of different areas, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It is.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
People can't drive no matter what country you are.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So cheese steaks. Gotta say, who do you like? Who's
your favorite?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
My favorite is Mama's Pizzeria, which is actually down the
road from the station on Belmont Avenue. Bala Ken.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You're giving your shout outs here.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Oh yeah, Unfortunately, I think they're only going to be
open for like the next year.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Why what happened?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
They're going to retire. I read an article a little
while back that I think when their son graduates college,
they're going to retire, and I thought that was this year,
but I just found out, Oh that's next year.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
So a stock up in the next year. You better
get a bunch of coolers.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And I don't overdo it. You're gonna have to, yeah,
probably will have to. But I it's like I treat
myself like I don't go there a lot because I
don't want to get tired of it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, but but now you have to because you never
tired in a year from it, and you'll be like, damn,
I wish I got tired of it.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, but yeah, I would say that that's probably my
favorite of that what I've had.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
We'll hear that on everybody check it out, and maybe
if you just bombard them with business, they won't close.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Do you ever think that it would be so popular?
They'll be like, what are we doing? This is crazy?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I don't know there.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
We can't let Matt down.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
Who's Matt?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Well know now?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh yeah, there you go, I'm Belmont, There you go,
there you go. Yes, Because you know why I bring
up Philly today because we're obviously proud Philly people.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
But our guest today is also born and raised proud
Philadelphian South Philly. South Philly, moved to North Philly. He's
sort of seen all of Philly, yes, and he is
still proud.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
He's still claims that it is his home.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Even though he's been all over the world and living
in la and a huge rock and roll musician, He's
still you know, Philly.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Boy, That's how people are around here.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
They don't forget their roots never. So you know what,
I think We're gonna have to talk to him a
little bit about it.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, let's just get to it all right.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Today on the Scene with Doreen, I sit down with
the true definition of a journey man. Vocalist and musician,
Singer John Carrabbi has earned a solid reputation as a
go to frontman and collaborator, Accepting an invitation to replace
Vince Neil in the platinum selling Motley Crue touring with
rat and a solid still career, John is now fronting
the musical collective supergroup The Dead Daisies, the powerhouse rock
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band celebrated for their soulful, blues infused sound and dazzling performances.
Take a listen, Oh Yes, Boom Boom boom. Singer and
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musician John Carabbi is back running supergroup The Dead Daisies,
with her new album Looking for Trouble recently dropping and
in European tour on the Way. The Dead Daisies are
certainly heating up the summer and I am thrilled to
welcome the musical journeyman himself, Jean car Robbie, Hey, John,
Welcome to the scene with Doreen.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
Go birds, oh go Birds.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, you know what I should say, Welcome home because
you are a Philly soon through and through born and
raised here in the city of brotherly Love, and.
Speaker 9 (06:13):
I do I'm going to make this statement publicly other
than Jackie Vambam on WMMR, you are my first first
interview on any sort of Philadelphia media.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I'm glad I can be here first. But I got
to say that's that is a crime.
Speaker 9 (06:35):
That that is I have been. I have been in
the business for almost forty years, and I have never
once done an interview with any of the Philadelphia radio stations,
TV anything.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, you see my first see you had to wait.
The good things come to those who wait, and here
you are, you see now.
Speaker 10 (06:55):
Yeah, and now that I know your high school nickname,
I'm not going to forget about you ever.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Oh and my listeners, you're just gonna have to guess
on that one, because we're not going to say that's
my little secret now with John and we're gonna we're gonna.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Keep that between us. We've bonded over here. Ahah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well, let's get to this because now I'm a little
like blushed and I'm matching my shirt pretty soon here.
So you seem to share the similar backstory with many
of my musical guests. Your love of music started by,
of course, seeing the Beatles on TV.
Speaker 9 (07:27):
Yes, I grew up in well, I was born in
South Philadelphia and my family moved up to North Philly,
and I just remember as a kid seeing some sort
of I got into them a little late, so I
was probably eight or eight nine years old, seven eight
whatever in that ballpark and they did some sort of
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retrospect on the old Ed Sullivan show that used to
be on I believe on Sunday, and they kind of
did a you know, their first Trip, which I was
too young to remember, uh there, but they did like
a few songs from their first trip, and they then
they played something like uh, Hello, Goodbye and that you
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know from the middle of their career. Uh. Then they
played Hey Jude and then and it must have been
around the time the Beatles were splitting up, so maybe
I was a little older. So they did like this
whole retrospect thing, and I just remember seeing like this
whole transformation with the band. But you know, there was
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the girl screaming in the audience and and it just
fascinated me.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh yeah, I can see how that could fascinate.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
You, which which at my age I don't really hear
very often anymore, but whatever. Anyway, so it was crazy.
For some apparent reason, my parents opted to get me
two gifts, one Chris Smiths. One was a microscope and
the other was a Sears silvertone acoustic guitar. And I
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think that the I think the microscope is still in
the box somewhere in my parents' basement. But whatever, anyway,
I went for the guitar, and you know it just
started taking lessons and just became absolutely fascinated with music.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Now, is it true that you learned how to play
guitar from a nun?
Speaker 11 (09:31):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (09:32):
God, yes, sister Charles Bronson.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Really was it wasn't it a sister Clement?
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Was that her name?
Speaker 9 (09:41):
I don't know it. But I used to go to
a Catholic school in North Philly called Incarnation of Our
Lord Boy, and it was, you know, you would go
into the convent, uh, you know, it was after schools.
You go in pay the like I don't know, two
dollars and fifty cents, which basically I always used to
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tell my parents, like you get what you pay for.
So basically, basically it was like a concentration camp for
wanna be musicians because all she did was smack my
hand with the pointer and the yardstick for you know.
And and the funny thing is she didn't even really play.
She played piano. But like I just remember, I had
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an old mel Bay book which was like the instructional
you know whatever book, and it was like, okay, see
how the picture is. Look how he's holding the pick.
Look Kell he's holding the guitar. Look Kelly's sitting And
so I had to like mimic these pictures. And I
was just miserable. And it was like, you know, I'm
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learning Michael row your boat asure.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Kumbayah yeah or something, yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:54):
Yeah, you know, and it's like meanwhile, my friends across
the street are learning hey Jude, and you know, and
I'm just sitting there going this sucks, you know. So I,
you know, I couldn't quit school. It was only like nine,
so I had to. I just I just said, you know,
I put the guitar in the closet. And again, a
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friend of mine across the street, she got a guitar
much later than I did, and I went over to
her house one day and she's sitting there playing like,
you know, Simon and Garfunkel songs, and she's playing the
Beatles and I'm like, I got like jealous, and I'm like,
where are you going to do? Like how how did
you learn to do this? Oh? I go to this
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other school in you know, up the street on it
used to be called Fifth Street, you know. I well
it still is, but it was a music store called Zapp's, okay,
and she was taking lessons there. So I went up
and spoke to her, her teacher, and he just basically
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the first couple of lessons, he just had me undo
everything that the nun had taught me.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
And smart now yeah, it was like, how.
Speaker 9 (12:08):
Do you hold the pick? And I go, well, you know,
and I was holding it like the mel Bay book
and he goes, no, no, no, no, no. When you're at
home and not in front of the nun, how do
you hold the pick? And how do you hold the guitar?
So he just said, just do what you do where
you're comfortable, and I just kind of did that and
then he was like, all right, how's that feel? And
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I'm like, well, obviously comfortable, so you know, so he
just had me undo everything that she taught me and
then you know, and then we started building from scratch.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Yeah. Well it worked though.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Whatever that combination was, the nun the not none, it
worked for you because that became your fuel, that became
your love. And I know you had a tough start
in the beginning. I know you were going through your
parents' divorce. You mentioned a lot of this in your autobiography,
horseshoes and hand grenades, and you really you could have
let it rip you apart, but you didn't. You let
that fuel your passionate and maybe a better person.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Yeah, you know, it's just I think, you know, it
wasn't easy at times, you know, but what is no,
you know, nothing nothing is easy, whether it's a relationship,
being in a band, being married, you know, getting up
and having to go to work, even if you're getting paid, well,
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there's going to be days that are you're just like,
oh my god, why did I do this? So, you know,
it is what it is, you know, And I've just
you know, at first, I used to think that it
was like it was it was aggravating that some of
the things happened to me the way that they did.
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I used to you know, I was one of those
class half empty people for a while.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
A lot of musicians are artistic, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (13:55):
Yeah, and it's weird. You have to just kind of
sit there and retrain your you know. One of the
things that I can say, and I'm not blowing smoke
up my own you know what, but one of the
things that most people say about me is when they
meet me, I'm just really approachable. Yeah yeah, and I
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kind of feel like I always have been. But it
was one of those things where I've always had like
something really great happen and then something really not so
great would happen to almost counterbalance it.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Yeah, So it just always kind of made me, I think,
even keeled.
Speaker 12 (14:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (14:39):
So it really takes a special kind of person to
make me go into like anger mode. And I'm capable,
but it's just, you know, I just I just kind
of look at things differently than maybe most I don't know,
and I have I have a lot of the trials
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of my you know, early days, you know, and we
still have them, right, But I just kind of it
just kind of makes me sit there and go, Okay, well,
you know, I could sit here and go, why don't
I have Steven Tyler's bank account or Vince Neil for
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that matter.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah that one.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, Yeah, you ever seeing Martha Stewart video. That video
I laugh all the time with where they put the
subtitles up for Vince. It's a very funny thing. For
people who haven't seen it, you have to go see
it on YouTube's funny and it's you know.
Speaker 9 (15:36):
I sit here sometimes and I go, you know, what
does a guy have to do? So I do still
have my moments, But then I catch myself and I go,
you know what, I'm sixty six years old. I've been
doing this since I was sixteen years old. You know,
I still have a career. I'm still making records with
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the Dead Daisies. I'm in the process to do when
a solo record. I still get to travel all over
the world and do shows, and people are still interested
in what I have to sing about and say. And
so my family's healthy, you know, its life is good,
you know what I mean. So, you know, it just
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depends on how you look at it. But I credit
a lot of the not so nice things when I
was younger to like making me look at things a
certain way. Right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
People don't realize that sometimes you have to go through
the dark to get to the light, or at least
understand or appreciate the light. Because if you just everything
is great for you, you will never ever be able
to appreciate when things really are really well And.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
It's really weird. I mean even in sports, Like I'm
a huge football fan.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh yeah, my producer man here, he can talk to
you all day about that one.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
Yeah, I love it. My wife actually kids with me,
and she goes, You're You're like, you're literally one step
way from like being like Dustin Hoffman and Rainman when
it comes to football.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
So it's you know, but the thing that's funny is
like even them, uh you know, a lot of those guys,
I don't know, you you hear this phrase all the
time and you don't realize it, but it's like that
that that phrase that football player say, iron sharpens iron.
So it's like that that that hard work and them
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on the sidelines throwing up in the heat of the
summer and la la la lah, and it just makes
them that much tougher for the season, you know what
I mean. So I kind of feel like, I don't know,
for not to be weird, but I I just kind
of feel like a lot of those things that I
did go through, as traumatic as they were when they
were happening have made me the person that I am now.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yes, amen, I agree, I'm the same I'm the same
cloth that way. So I think anyone who is successful
has had to go through something in their life that's
sort of very lesson learning.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
We'll just say that.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And yeah, yeah, So let's move on then, because you've
had this forty plus your career, so we got to
keep going because there's so much to touch on. Around
nineteen eighty six, you decide to uproot your life. You
moved to the West Coast from Philly with your band Angora.
Jeene Simmons mentored you and one of my former guests
on the show, Steve I produced your demo that Angora
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was definitely poised to ascend a rock stardom.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
So what happened?
Speaker 9 (18:36):
You know, Hollywood?
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Yeah, that's the answer for a lot of people.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
You know. I'm still friends with all of the guys.
Like one of my buddies actually lives in Philadelphia. My
old guitar player, Jimmy, he lived in Philly. The other
two guys I think still live in California. But it
was just weird, you know, like they were much younger
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than I was, and you know, they got out, they
got up in California and we all used to party
like that was the thing. Like they a lot of
these promoters would say, oh, you know, you got to
sell these tickets and then give me the money before
you play. So you had that, you know, it was
like a pay to play thing. But a lot of
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the guys are like, listen, man, if you want to
build up the following, you got to have parties back
to your apartment and you know, so it was like
it was about drinking and you know, in some cases,
you know, whatever drugs were available and like, you know,
and it just unfortunately for those guys. A couple of
the guys just got a little too carried away with
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the Hollywood lifestyle and drugs in particular. And the thing
that annoyed me was like, for example, we had a
rehearsal room and it was about uh, I think it
was five hundred a month, and I you know, sat
there with everybody and I said, hey, you know, is
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everybody cool? Can everybody afford one hundred and twenty five
dollars a month? We're all going to chip in for
this place. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. And it was
weird like, So most of the time it wound up
being the two guys that didn't have kids that were married.
I mean, the two guys that had kids and were
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married were the ones that were covering for the other
two guys that weren't married and didn't have kids. But
they always had weed.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Oh yeah, they had their money. Their priorities are a
little different.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
Yeah, their priorities were a little different. And eventually I
just said, you know what, man, I did not uproot
my wife, my kids, my dogs and drive across country
and an ambulance with a U haul trailer to come
out here and babysit a bunch like at the time,
I was just like, you know, a bunch of drug addicts.
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I came here to get a record deal. I want
to be Steven Tyler, I want to be Robert Plant,
I want to be Alice Cooper. And so I just said,
you know what, I'm done, I'm done, and I quit.
I just said, I'll see you guys later, I'm out.
And it was weird. My manager, who I'm still with since.
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Back in those days, this gentleman named John Greenberg. He
told me about a couple guys from band called Race Rex,
they were looking for a singer. I wound up hooking
up with them, and I don't think we were together
eight months. We didn't even do a show. We literally
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just sat in this room and wrote music. And we
wound up doing a few showcases for some record labels,
and we had a couple of record deals offered to
us just on the strength of like four or five
songs that we had written at that point. So, you know,
it was, uh, it sucked that I brought those guys.
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It was my decision to come to California. They all
kind of followed me out there, but and I felt
really bad about leaving the band after they had moved,
you know, three thousand miles away from home. But at
this point I just sat there. I'm like, I feel
like I'm swimming with cinderblocks tied to my ankles. So
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I'm like, I'm done. I'm out.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
No, you made the right choice. I mean, it would
have been licener blocks. And it's funny you mentioned Stephen
Tyler choice and a lot of fans compare your vocals
to Steven Tyler. So I heard you have a quite
interesting story about meeting him and singing with him.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Yeah, it was weird when we were doing the Motley record, Well,
I got to back up, like I have truly been
like a massive Aerosmith fan since forever. Like I was
the guy I'm gonna move because I'm I'm in like
one hundred degree weather right now.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Oh yeah, we don't want you to die on the show?
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Who did not want this.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
To be your first Silly one and your last Philly one.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
Yeah it was great. He did his first Philly interview
and dropped it from heat to heat broke.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You finally got you know, see me. Okay though, yeah,
actually it's good.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
It's really good lighting.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
Okay. So I was the guy that was at the Spectrum,
you know, the night before when tickets were going to
go on sale. I sat. I sat at the Spectrum
at five o'clock in the morning and snowstorms, like just
to get a ticket to go see Aerosmith. You know.
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But so I was always a fan. And then when
I was about, I don't know, sixteen years old, I
got into an argument with my parents and I just said, yeah,
well f you guys, and I literally bought a one
way ticket up to Boston and I was going to
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I was convinced I was going to join Aerosmith as
the second guitar player, and I was going to get
rid of that Whitford guy. You know, Let get rid
of that Brad Whitford guy, and I'll be on the
other side with Joe Perry. And I'm just gonna, you know.
And so it was weird. We were doing the Mottley
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record nineteen ninety I guess three, and we're at displays
little Mountain Studios, and the guys played a little bit
of a joke on me and didn't tell me who
the band was that was in. We were in Studio A,
they were in Studio B, and they were doing some
touch ups and mixing what became their Get a Grip record,
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and they let me walk into the room first. I
totally interrupted Joe Perry in the middle of the guitar solo,
which he was not happy about, and uh, you know,
and it was like the whole room went quiet, and
Steven Tyler, in his leopard print bangle bracelets, you know,
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just ran across the room doing that sound that he's
notorious for. And he gave me, gave me a hug,
lifted my feet off the ground and said you're the
one that's getting ready to be shot out of the cannon.
And I was completely dumbfounded, no idea what to say.
About a week later, I'm sitting in the lounge I
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had been doing trying to do a guitar track, and
Bob didn't like the Bob Rock didn't like the sounds whatever,
so he was adjusting the mics and I went into
this lounge area and I was sitting there by myself
with an acoustic guitar, and I start going through the
back catalog of stuff that I grew up playing, like
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Over the Hills and Far Away by Zeppelin and Blackbird
by the Beatles, and then I just started playing this
song called Seasons of Wither from the second Aerosmith record,
and right when the vocals were supposed to start, I
heard the voice and I turned around and Steven's face
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was literally like two inches from my and he goes, yeah,
you're playing it wrong, brother, and I was just like horrified,
and he just jumped over the couch. He told me
the whole story of how he wrote the song, why
he wrote the song, and then we sat and played
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it together. He taught me this weird tuning that he
came up with and he showed me how to play
you could play that song the way he does it
with one finger because he's he's not a guitar player,
and he wrote the song and it's he played it
with one finger, and I'm like, oh my god, that's brilliant.
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But I was so enamored with the whole situation I
forgot the too.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
I was gonna say, you probably don't remember anything.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
Yeah, yeah, and it's like I still play it wrong,
so basically, but it was I was literally sitting there
when he walked away. I literally just sat there for
like days, pinching myself right, and it was it was truly.
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That was one of those things where I just sit
there like he's been still to this day, like I'll meet,
you know, guys like, uh, you know, I met the
guys in Deep Purple. I met the guys in you know.
I met David Coverdale. We did a tour together with
him and the Dead Daisies, White Snake Bears, bat and
right and and and you're just sitting there and you're
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you're having this moment where it's like, you know, I'm
sitting here talking David Coverdale and then like a minute later,
you go, oh my god, I'm sitting here talking to
David Coverdale, like the guy that I saw on Don
Kirshner's rock concert back in nineteen seventy four, you know,
(28:16):
like at the cow Jam, you know what I mean,
Sam with Glenn Hugh's. I met Glen Hughes multiple times,
and you know, so you just meet these people and
you're like, oh my god, dude, I literally bought a
ticket to see you at the Spectrum in Philadelphia, and
now I'm sitting here having a cup of coffee with you.
(28:36):
I have your phone number, right, you know what I mean.
So it's a little because as much as I've done,
I'm still I'm still like a music geek, like a fan,
you know what I mean. I'm still a fan. I'm
still enamored with people. I still get annoyed when I
hear like some brilliant lyric that I should have thought
(28:59):
of instead of that person, do you know what I mean? Yeah, Oh,
you know what made them write that? And then it's
like I want to know the history of the songs
or the artists or the album. And you know, so
I'm still a bit of a music geek.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
That makes you good though.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I mean that makes you keep striving to be better
because you want to keep learning, you want to keep evolving.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
As a musician, and that's why you keep reinventing.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I mean, you did this, you moved all the way
out to you took a shot West Coast.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Then you know you let that go.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Then of course you know we're going to talk very
briefly because you talked to it at nauseum about your
time with Motley Crue. I'm sure you talk that to
death on every interview platform. But yeah, you would replace
Vince Neil Motley Crue for what two years? And then
you turn the page again and now you're with this
amazing the Dead Daisies. I mean, it's just you keep evolving,
and that's what I means.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
You no, And it's funny though, like the universe, And
this is going to sound really corny, but I've just
been one of those guys, like a lot of people
ask me, hey, you know in interviews like Manure, you
sure have been in a lot of different bands, But
I kind of look at each band that I've been
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in as a hand of poker, like you get dealt cards.
The only thing you can do is work hard at
your craft. But the one thing that a lot of
people forget is that there's a massive piece like luck
is a huge part of this thing that we live in,
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do you know what I mean? And it's about being
at the right place at the right time. So, you know,
I wish I was still sitting here. And I don't
mean that in the glass half empty whatever, but I
wish I was still sitting here talking about the fifteenth
or twentieth record by the Screen or you know, the
(30:57):
tenth record by Motley Crue, you know. But it was
like each band that I was in, it's like I
was dealt those cards. I looked at the cards, I
played them, and it just didn't work out. So but
I was I've been fortunate to be always dealt another.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Hand, yes exactly, you know what I mean exactly.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
And it was weird, like and it's funny, like I
tell this to people all the time, like if you
work hard, believe in yourself, just keep doing what you're doing,
the universe has a way of always giving you what
you need when you need it. And it was like
in the most random times, like there was times where
(31:37):
I was like, oh my god, man, I don't know
if I'm going to be able to pay my bills.
This was after.
Speaker 13 (31:41):
Motley, you know, and all of a sudden, I'd be like,
oh my god, I need like I need like four
thousand dollars by like Friday to pay my bills.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
And then I would get a phone call from some
record label and they're like, hey, we're doing this Rod
Steer tribute record. Could you maybe saying like Rod Stewart track,
We'll pay you ten grant?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
And I'm like yes, where and when?
Speaker 9 (32:10):
Yeah, where and when? And it's like, you know, and
it was just I just somehow keep you know, call
it whatever you want. You know, I call them blessings. Yeah,
you get these little blessings along the way, and it's
just like kind of keeps you afloat, and then you
stumble upon something like Motley Crue or you know, now
with the Dead Daisies. You know, we've been very, very
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blessed to meet a gentleman like David Lowie who started
this band, and his story is just fascinating. But David,
you know, he's a very successful businessman that has always
been into guitar, writing songs. He loves music, but he's
(32:53):
been a business guy and then just on some random thing,
maybe ten fifteen years No, it's long, or it's probably
like fifteen twenty years ago. He just was walking by
a guitar store and saw, you know, guitar in the
window that he liked, went in, he bought it. He went,
you know what I'm doing. Okay, Now I'm very successful
(33:15):
and my family's very successful. I'm going to do that
other thing that I've always wanted to do. And he
put this band together and he takes very good care
of all of us, right, do you know what I mean?
So again, the universe just said, hey, just some random
clung call and it was like, hey, do you want
(33:35):
to go to Cuba with us and maybe do a record?
And I'm like, I didn't even know who the Dead
Daisies were when they called.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
You found out quickly, yeah, and it was weird.
Speaker 9 (33:44):
I'm like, all these guys are really cool.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
So you know, here I am, you know, twelve years later.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And I want to take a pause because I want
to talk about that. I want to turn the page
and let's talk about the Dead Days is and everything
that is going on. I'm Dorian Taylor and you're listening
to the scene with Dorian with musician and frontman of
The Dead Daisy's John Carrabbi, We're going to dive into
their new documentary, their album and much more. Don't Go Anywhere.
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Even a quick glance at a list of records produced
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Speaker 10 (36:57):
And here's some of the Billboard, Grammys and stuff. I
had sixty years of recording in this building.
Speaker 9 (37:06):
Oh my god, dude, little Richard you kidding me right now?
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Speaker 2 (37:31):
Oh yeah, so, welcome back to the Steamers Arena, proud
part of the Beasley Media Group family. I'm your host
Doreene Taylor, and I'm chatting today with singer and musician
John Carabbi, former lead singer of Motley Cruez and current
frontman of.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
The supergroup The Dead Daisies.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
John, congrats on the new The Dead Daisies album Looking
for Trouble. I love your reimagine take on so many
of the classic blues standards. It's truly, like you said,
it's a love letter to the blues.
Speaker 9 (37:59):
Yeah. Well, first of all, I just I do I
hope your producer had his hand on the button for
that last Okay.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
We're okay, we are good.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I was gonna, you know what, before we go any further,
I got to ask you, so did it?
Speaker 9 (38:16):
No, I'm still going to a kind of collegism.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Oh on no, man, Oh, Gussie, that's the scoop. That's
I don't know if there's a scoop I wanted, but
that's a scoop.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
There's a there's a scoop.
Speaker 10 (38:28):
And and you know what, I much prefer the innuendo
fielled part of the conversation we were having before we went.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
On the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
See, I know, right, I'm all I'm all like be
very proper and professional in my when I get into
my interview mode.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 9 (38:41):
No, no, it's all good, all good.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Oh but yeah, congrats. It's it's an incredible, incredible album,
and I do love that you're bringing the blues back
and it's this really new, fresh kind of take on it.
Speaker 9 (38:55):
You know, it's funny, like I can honestly say this
because you know, each one of these songs that we picked,
we kind of researched it, as you see from that
video clip. We were we did a documentary while we
were doing it, but each one of these songs we
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kind of researched and found out the history of the songs,
the writers, yah YadA, YadA, YadA, and it just really
made us all very aware of the fact that a
none of us were blues officionados prior to this. None
of us. None of us will say that we are
or we were, but it's crazy to me when you
(39:41):
go back and you look at the history of the blues.
Was this It's the only real American kind of art
musical art form. It originated here. Unfortunately, back in the day,
if you look at the history of it, it was
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always kind of considered an African American art form. It
was called the Devil's music. White America was not ready
for this stuff at all. And thank God for the
British because it somehow made its way. The early recordings
of this stuff actually made its way over to England
(40:24):
via the servicemen and merchant marines. It made its way
over to England mainly, and they just fell in love
with it. And these guys like you know, the Stones,
the Beatles, Seppelin, humble Pie, fog Hat, all these great
(40:49):
bands of the seventies took this music, interpreted it their way,
and brought it back and repackaged it and handed it
to America and we ate it up.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
Americans were ready for that, yeah, there were.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
And and you know, so like normally every record that
we've ever done, we've always done a song or two
as a tribute to some of the artists we grew
up with. And if you're familiar with our back catalog,
you know that we've done some songs like Joined Together
(41:25):
by the Who, or Fortunate Son by Credence, and you know,
Midnight Moses by the sensational Alex Harvey Band and I'm
We've done songs on each each record. And while we
were doing the Light Em Up record, we went down
to Fame to do some writing and we were just
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so enamored with the building and everything we just said, okay,
let's do a blues record. And you know, we've caught
a little flak about the songs that we chose to
do because they're like the gimme songs, do you know
what I mean? Like it's the obvious. But the point
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that we were trying to make is this amazing art form.
We kind of ignored it for many, many years until
the English guys got it. But what we did is
we chose songs that were introduced that introduced us to
the blues, not by the original artist, but by the
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second wave, you know what I mean. So like, for example, Crossroads,
I grew up thinking as a young kid, I was like, oh,
that's a cream song, right, but it wasn't. And then
and then it was like later, Uh, Leonard Skinner covered
it on their one More from the Road record, their
(42:53):
famous live record, and I thought they were covering a
cream song, you know what I mean? And it's like,
not until the age of social media and internet and
you know whatever, were we able to figure out like,
oh wait, that's a guy named Robert Johnson wrote that
in like nineteen twenty seven or thirty or whatever it was.
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So every one of these songs are songs that we
were introduced to by somebody else. Interesting Going Down, Going
Down was. We were introduced to that by Jeff Beck.
We were introduced to Walking the Dog Aerosmith, Little Red Rooster.
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David Lowie was like, we have to do Little Red Rooster.
He goes when I was a kid, that was the
first song that I had ever heard by the Rolling Stones,
and they did a TV performance and I saw it
in Australia. So he became obsessed with the Stones, thinking
(44:00):
that that was their song, right right. So these are
all songs that we kind of got from the second
wave saying, you know, all these British cats are like, hey,
you know, dumbass, this is this is your your homegrown
art form. Yeah, you should probably maybe listen to it
(44:25):
and appreciate it a little more. I agree, you know
what I mean. And so we just said, you know what,
let's do a whole record and maybe maybe you know,
we had a blast doing it, we did it in
this legendary studio, and maybe you know we can influence
(44:47):
or or you know, through our acknowledgement of these great
songs and great artists, you know, maybe we'll we'll pass
the torch on and and maybe somebody at home will
do their research and you know, be enlightened as we were.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
And you know, if you're going to record a top
notch blues album like you guys did, where else would
you go but the iconic theme studios?
Speaker 9 (45:13):
I mean, hello, yeah, it was either that or go
to England and use one of those iconic studios.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
But no, not for a blues record. I think where
you went, you know, in Alabama. I mean that if
you're going to really reintroduce it and bring it back
in your own flavor, that was the right place at
the right time.
Speaker 9 (45:32):
Yeah, and it was it was weird. Like again, that
was one of those things where we just saw that
there was a Netflix documentary. Excuse me, I think they
pulled it, but it was I believe it was called
The Sounds of Muscle.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Sholes or oh yeah, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 9 (45:51):
There was this whole documentary. There was multiple reasons. I'm
going to apologize because this answer is going to be
a little bit long in the tooth. But we saw
the documentary and we said, oh man, that'd be really
cool to just go down there and do some writing
for our record. And then being in that building, we
(46:11):
started jamming. We started jamming some blues things, and that's
when we decided let's do a blues record as well.
So we were kind of doing double duties. We were
working on a regular record during the day and then
at night we would arrange and record these tracks and
lay them down. But the funny thing is is if
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you watch that documentary, you'll realize that Fame was the
first studio in Muscle Shoals. They had this house band
called the Swampers. There was a guy named Jerry Wexler.
He was really tight with a lot of those guys
through Aretha Franklin and so on and so forth. And
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then a couple of the Swampers guys left and they
started a studio on the other side of town, and
Jerry Wexler was involved with them as well. That studio
became equally as famous. That's where the Rolling Stones recorded
Gimmy Shelter, Wild horses. Bob Seeger recorded there like Rod Stewart.
(47:15):
Just the list is ridiculous. And then once again a
couple of the guys said, you know what, let's go
to Nashville, right, and they went and they started a
studio in Nashville, which our producer, Marty Fredrickson purchased when
he moved to when he moved eventually moved to Nashville.
(47:38):
So the last few records we've done, we've been in,
We've done make some noise, burn it down, and even
finished up these two records at the third of the
three that Muscle Souls.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
Right, you're in the family.
Speaker 9 (47:54):
Yeah, yeah, So we said, let's go to Muscle Shouls.
And it's only I mean I could literally get on
my motorcycle and I can be in muscle shows from
my house in you know, two hours, hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah, it's close.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (48:08):
Yeah. So we just said, you know what, I have
a motor home. We use that as a home base.
We parked it behind the studio and I drove everybody
down the muscle shoals and we stayed there for nine
days and we just did we did this blues record
in nine days down in muscle shows.
Speaker 5 (48:27):
Wow, nine days. That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
I mean, the quality is so I mean, it's really
like just amazing what you guys could do in nine days.
And you were working simultaneously on another project too. That's
multitasking and its finess.
Speaker 9 (48:43):
Yeah. I can chew gum and walking.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
I haven't done that yet. If you can teach me,
that would be good. I still trip all over the place.
Speaker 9 (48:52):
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
But you know, the album debuted straight out at number
seven on the Billboard Blues Chart, which is extremely impressive.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
Musical styles are ever evolving.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Rock has changed, and I mean almost every style pop
has changed.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
The blues still continue to survive and thrive. It may
change a little bit, it's still the blues.
Speaker 9 (49:13):
Yeah, And you know it really it really was. I
can't say it enough. It really was enlightening and it
really was eye opening doing this. And to be honest
with you, I hope I'm really kind of hoping and
keeping my fingers crossed. You know that this is only
(49:37):
volume one, you know what I mean. I hope that
every time we do a record that we can go
in and do another blues record at the same time,
pick another ten songs, do our takes on them. Are
versions of it because it really was fun. And there's
so many great songs, you know, it's just I mean,
(49:59):
like to do this would be a no brainer. There's
thousands of great, great Lose songs, yes, that we've probably
never even heard of before, you know what.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
I mean, right, show, and you can bring them to
the masses. You can put your spin on them and
introduce them to a whole new group of people and
listeners to experience Lose who maybe really haven't, like you said,
maybe thought, like you know, a certain song they heard
was the originator.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
It's not. And you're you know, making everybody here for
the first.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Time maybe, And that's very that's a that's quite a responsibility, right,
with great power comes great responsibility.
Speaker 9 (50:37):
Well, you know when I become, when I become powerful
and responsible, I'll give you a call right now, Right now,
I'm sitting here chewing on an orange crayon.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
Well, that would sum it up.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Let me tell you, well, you know what you are
embarking The Dead Daisies are going overseas and you're doing
a European tour starting in August. And that's pretty cool
to that your your message is now going overseas and
they're loving it just as much.
Speaker 9 (51:04):
Yeah, we we actually have been playing some of the
blues record and and and it's really funny like even
in some of the well, we weren't in Europe where
now when we go back, we're going to the UK.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 9 (51:17):
Yeah, so uh, but it was funny. We were in
some places like uh, we were in the Czech Republic,
we were in Slovakia, you know, and it's funny you
just sit there like I would say, hey, do you
guys like the blues and they're like yeah, you know.
(51:39):
And so we were doing uh, we were doing boom
boom and going down and it was crazy to me.
I'm looking around the room and these people are sitting
there singing. I'm going down, down, down, and they're singing
every word like you know, it was. It was It's awesome.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
Yeah why not?
Speaker 2 (51:59):
And you that don't cheer for you anymore? Come on,
they cheer for you still, the young girls.
Speaker 12 (52:04):
Come on.
Speaker 9 (52:05):
I thought we were talking about my wife.
Speaker 7 (52:09):
Oh man, you're sleeping outside tonight, aren't you.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (52:13):
It's like I go to my room now naked, and
my wife goes, please turn the light off.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Oh wow, I'm not gonna go anywhere further with that,
because I don't think I can probably top that and anyway,
So I think this means that this wonderful interview is
coming to a conclusion now.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
But I want everyone check.
Speaker 9 (52:36):
Out the Crettes. It's over.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Check out thedead Daisies dot com for more info about
the band, get the new album Looking for Trouble, and
just keep connected with everything that is John Carabbi and
the Dead Daisies.
Speaker 5 (52:49):
I hope I did you justice, my man.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
I love you are a Philly brethren to me that
you're from here, and I'm glad we could be here
first here.
Speaker 9 (52:59):
And I appreciate I really do. I'm I'm not kidding
you when I say that, even maybe last year, at
some point we're supposed to do Doug and I were
so looking forward to it that we were gonna be
(53:20):
on WIP like the sports radio, YadA, YadA, YadA, and
we're actually gonna get to be able to talk about
the Phillies and the Eagles. Oh yeah yeah, And literally
twenty minutes before it happened to canceled, and.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
I was like, well, we don't like WIP here, we
like the fanatic that's a part of our family.
Speaker 9 (53:40):
Yeah, And I was like, are you kidding me? Right now?
Like right, you know, so you know I was bumped.
But I was just sitting there. I was looking at
the thing. When they sent me the info about doing
this today, I go, finally, yeah, finally, I'm finally going
to be on the air somewhere in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yes, and nationwide it's Philly and everywhere.
Speaker 9 (54:06):
Well, we don't care. There's anywhere else. Is there any
other city on earth that greases the lightholes?
Speaker 5 (54:15):
No, it still doesn't work. It still doesn't work.
Speaker 9 (54:18):
So it's only a Philly thing. I'm keeping it real,
you know. I'm keeping about I'm keeping about the Eagles, cheesesteaks, scrapple,
the diners in New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (54:29):
Come on, Yes, oh you are. You're through and through.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
The blood is still running green in you, I can
tell yes.
Speaker 9 (54:38):
But thank you guys so much for finally picking the
phone up.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
Oh my pleasure, and you're you're just a pleasure to
talk to. I had a wonderful time chatting with you,
and anytime, please come back when you do volume two
of a New Blues album, because I know you will.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
I want you to come back.
Speaker 9 (54:55):
You know, what maybe, just maybe we can do.
Speaker 5 (54:59):
An in per I would love that.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I absolutely okay, So you marked that down because I'm
putting it out there and it is going to happen.
Speaker 9 (55:06):
And I will have a butter knife hand.
Speaker 7 (55:11):
Call me mellow yellow.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Will do.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
On that note, I have to bid you ado, but
have a wonderful tour and good luck with the album.
Speaker 5 (55:21):
It's a wonderful album.
Speaker 9 (55:23):
Thank you, darling.
Speaker 5 (55:24):
You have a great one.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
All right, bye bye, Hey guys, that's all the time
we have for today. Thank you to my guest John Carave.
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I'm Dorian Taylor and on behalf of Matt myself and
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That word, NBC News Radio. I'm Michael Cassner. The US
District judge says an appointment of National Guard troops to
Los Angeles violated federal law. President Trump deployed the troops
in response to protests against his immigration operations in the city.
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Judge Charles Bryer said, while individuals engaged in violence during
the protests, there was no rebellion, nor was civilian law
enforcement unable to respond to the protests and enforce the law.
The judges ruling bars the use of troops in California
to execute the laws. However, the ruling is paused pending
further legal action. ICE agents could make their presence known
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in the Chicago area as early as today. In Chicago,
Perry Williams.
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Great Lakes in North Chicago is allegedly the base of operations.
Brandon Johnson continue to give pushback concerning ICE and the
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Hundreds of attendees carried signs criticizing President Trump and declaring
wake up and smell the fascism.
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Summer recess is all over for members of Congress as well.
Rory O'Neill with more.
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Congress took its August recess early to avoid discussing the
Epstein files, but the issue will be front and center
this week when some of the sex predators victims hold
a press conference on Capitol Hill. A bipartisan group of
lawmakers is trying to force the White House to release
all the Epstein files. Meanwhile, the clock is ticking for
the House and Senate to pass a continuing resolution that
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would avoid a government shutdown when the fiscal year comes
to a close at the end of the month.
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Wall Street's opening with stocks lower. It comes after a
federal appeals court rul Friday that most of the tariffs
implemented by President Trump are illegal. Michael Kassner, NBC News Radio.
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