KCAA: The Scene with Doreen (Tue, 23 Sep, 2025)

KCAA: The Scene with Doreen on Tue, 23 Sep, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Coming to you from the City of Brotherly Love. It's
the scene with do Rene going behind the scenes with
the biggest stars and getting to know the person behind
the personality. I'm Shadow Stevens and no, here's your hosts

(00:29):
Billboard jurning recording artist and raining queen on the scene.
Do Rene Taylor.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, And of course, as
Shadow season says every single week, I'm Doreen Taylor. We
have a great show today. Coming up. We have one
of Canada's biggest rock bands of all time, our Lady Peace,
the founding member and lead vocalist rain Maida, is going
to join us. But before we get into all that,
it feels good to hear that intro again, Matt. I mean,

(00:59):
we've been on vacation for like what it feels like forever.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
It has been. It's been a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
It was weird. I feel weird doing this again. It's
like I got to get my sea legs back, you know.
I feel a little wobbly.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, you got to get back into the groove and
everything in your rhythm.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I know, I feel a little weird. I do, I do.
I don't know. How how do you get back into
the rhythm because right now, okay, we're done with summer. Now,
summer's over, I guess, and it's they're sweet.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's weird. It's like as soon as Labor Day comes,
it gets really cold. Do you notice, like all of
a sudden and everything starts getting darker, The leaves start
to change, lily start to see a little younger. It's
just weird. How that's like almost exactly lot and Labor Day.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, but I kind of like it.
I like it getting cooler out. I like the it's
still in the seventies, so I kind of like that. Yeah,
uh yeah. I like the summer. But now it's it's
football season, so you got to deal with the weather.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah that's nice. They still get some hotgy, you know,
hot days for the game. So I remember the one
year they had pickle juice. Remember they we're all going
to be high, Okay, I remember that a while ago.
They're all drinking whatever happened to pickle juice. I had
high hopes for that. I never heard about it again
after that.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I don't think. I mean, I don't know if other
teams still do it. There's other ways to get electrolytes
and hydrate yourself these days.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So yeah, yeah, I don't know. Pickle juice though they
were that was big, that was on every news cycle.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, I mean they needed to replenish their salt intake.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
So I think it was green and it was just
gonna be this like really cool kind of tie in
with the green and the eagles, and it just never landed.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Though, No, I haven't seen I do see a lot
of pickle flavored stuff these days.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Though, seriously, I think it's almost replacing it. I'm going
to say it the dreaded pumpkin spice season we're in.
There's pickles, pickle spice, pickles probably as what is that
with like pickle soda.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, pickle soda. I saw at Sonic they have like
a pickle slushy. I think the popping bubbles like pickle.
I mean, I like pickles. I like to go on burgers,
I like them on a lot of stuff, but I
don't want to drink like a soda or a slushy
or something.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
They don't seem like flavors that kind of go together.
I remember I was in New York about a year
and a half ago, and I was at the barroom
at the Modern. I was having dinner up there and
everything on the menu and I was like, what the
hell everything had dil in it. I got a like
a cosmo, really fruity like martini, and they had this
drop of black crap in the middle and it was

(03:24):
kind of like oil slick and it kind of like spread.
It was spreading while it's sitting on the table, and
I'm like to the waitress, what the heck is this?
They're like, Oh, it's dil. I'm like, why are you putting?
Did you get like an overload of dill? Everywhere? They
put dylan?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Everything and everything.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
That was in the bathroom. Wash your hands with dyl
before you come back out. And it was too much dill.
And I guess maybe that's the crazy DL.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
There's always one flavor. It seems every year that people
like really jump on and stuff, when before, like pomegranate
was popular, like it was thrown at you, like everything's
pomegranate flavor?

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
What else is there? There's been that, There's been bacon
flavored everything, But bacon's good. I can have bak Yeah,
that can go on forever. I'm going with that. But
bacon ice cream that was kind of Nah. I don't
know if I want bacon flavored ice.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Cream, bacon with ice cream.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, I liked that. The sweet I've always liked, like
potato chips with something like in ice cream or something.
You know, maybe I sound pregnant or something, pickles ice cream.
There you go, Oh you go, there you go. And
it's maybe it's a Canadian thing. Maybe I don't know,
No it's not. But our guest today is Canadian. So
maybe we have to like tune in there and ask
them if they do these crazy flavor phenomena things up

(04:36):
in Canada.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, I have to check it out.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I know I grew up next to Canada. I don't
remember it, so maybe I'll dig in. We'll see what
he likes, all right. Today on the Scene with Doreen,
I welcome Rain made, a founding member and lead singer
of one of Canada's most influential rock bands, Our Lady Piece,
selling over five million albums worldwide. They're among the elites
thirteen Music Canada Diamond certified artists, holding three times triple

(05:02):
and five times double platinum certifications, with global hits like
Superman's Dead, Clumsy, Star Seed, and somewhere out there. Take
a listen, fly.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Sho, maybe Jazzy.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Friend, That's clumsy.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
Somewhere sever.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
With nineteen top ten radio hits in Canada, including five
number one singles, Rain Mada and Our Lady Piece are
celebrating their thirtieth anniversary by reissuing special EP collections of
classic hits with new songs as a gift to their
longtime fans like me. Being recently inducted into Canada's Walk
of Fame and winding down the summer Unity tour with

(06:43):
Collective Soul and Live, Our Lady Piece continues to prove
why they have defined the alternative rock landscape for over
three decades. It's a great treat for me to welcome
lead singers, songwriter and creative visionary Rain Mada to the show. Hi, Rain,
Welcome to the scene with Doree.

Speaker 8 (07:00):
Great to be here. That was coming.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh see. It's sort of like your this is your
life presentation? Is it like are you dying? Is there
something I don't know? We're kind of like doing good.

Speaker 8 (07:11):
I'll take it. I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, you've done all of it. I always say that
to my guests because they're always kind of like blown
away by the intro, and I'm like, but you did
it all. I didn't bring the intro. Yeah, you did it.
That's all you babies.

Speaker 8 (07:22):
Can you send that to my mom?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Ah, I'm sure she knows. Does she have a scrap book?
Does she keep all your clippings? And my mom still
I think she used to.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
See we kind of have like sort of related in
some kind of way because I was born and raised
in Buffalo, New York, which is about as close to
Canada as you can get. And our lady Piece has
been very well known to me for many years. And
I know you know Buffalo very well.

Speaker 9 (07:48):
But we we just played there in this collective Soul
Live tour. And I said to her, I'm not like pandering.
I'm like, we live and we you know, we've lived
in LA for the last twenty five years. My kids
were Bills fan. It's like we are legit Bills fans.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Me too, me too. I had Jim Kelly back our
Super Bowl special. I had Jim Kelly on talking about
him surviving cancer, talk about Superman but you know, surviving
four times cancer and still yes four times. Yeah. He
says he has what's his big phrase? It's like I
lost a super Bowl four times, but I kicked cancers

(08:22):
but four times. So yeah, to see you understand. But yeah,
I'm a big Jim. Well maybe this year. Maybe we
say that every year, but maybe this year.

Speaker 8 (08:30):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, a lot of my guests on the show have
a similar backstory. They were friends since they were little kids,
they formed a band, they struggled for years, and they
eventually broke through. Our Lady pe story is a little different.
You found each other through a college want ad in
the paper.

Speaker 9 (08:49):
We did, Yeah, I mean I was. I was at
college in Toronto. Although you know, Dunk and our bass
player we played together in high school, but then he
went off to ski you know, for a year, yeah, exactly,
and then we found ourselves together again. But yeah, it
was just one of those things looking for the right

(09:10):
people because sometimes the bands that you get into first
aren't always the right thing. And definitely wanted to make
sure that, at least for me in terms of the
direction of music we were going, because it was kind
of a weird time, right like music was there was
a big shift happening in music, you know, from from
all the metal stuff to this you know, kind of
like the Grune stuff that just started when we were

(09:31):
just looking to start a band, and so I felt like, Okay,
definitely want to be on ahead of the curve here.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah. Absolutely, And this was while all this was happening,
you were majoring in criminology and that is a very
interesting juxtaposition with music.

Speaker 8 (09:47):
That's pretty pretty parallel, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Really, Oh, you know what, I hate to say that.
You know, I'm for a lot of people who are
in the industry. You kind of understand that, but exactly exactly. Yeah,
So what how did you change? I mean, did you
always want to be a musician and it was kind
of like just waiting for that that apple to fall
from the tree, or did you kind of just really
want to be a criminologist.

Speaker 9 (10:09):
No, I mean I wanted to be a musician since
I was like fourteen, and then I think, you know,
I was living at home when I was going to
college in Toronto with my dad, and not to appease him,
I mean, I'm a fan of education, but I felt
like it's kind of going through the motions a bit,
you know, just I'd go to school, I had all

(10:31):
my classes early, and then we would just you know,
rehearse from like four o'clock to midnight every day, and
so school was kind of it was there, you know,
college was there, but it definitely wasn't my priority.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
And your band started out with the name as If.
I don't know if it's a little homage to my
clueless I know, I'm going way back, like this really
is this your life? But you changed it to our
Lady Piece based on a nineteen forty three poem of
the same name by Mark Van Doren. And even the
lyrics you write have this very deep poetic symbolism behind them.

(11:08):
Where did this knowledge and love of poetry come from?

Speaker 9 (11:12):
I mean I kind of grew up a little bit,
you know, in my life. In my it was so weird.
In grade eight, like my eighth well, the last year
of like elementary school, I met this. We had like
a creative writing class.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
But this teacher was.

Speaker 9 (11:25):
Super cool and he introduced me into the beat poets
and he said, I probably shouldn't be doing this, but
just get the sense that you would really like these
guys and you should dig into like a lot of
the work. And so that really spawned this new appreciation
for like craftsmanship of words like wordsmith because they were
so bold, you know, like talking about fer Lengetti and

(11:47):
Kraak and all these guys.

Speaker 8 (11:48):
They just said things. You're like, whoa can you say this?
And they did.

Speaker 9 (11:52):
And so the idea of taking that influence and putting
into song was something that happened really early on for me.

Speaker 8 (12:01):
So that was like the natural progression.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Interesting and how many times in your career, especially in
your early days, did you have to explain that our
Lady Piece is not a Christian band.

Speaker 9 (12:12):
Yeah, it's weird because you said it. It's this old
war poem by by Mark van Dorn, and so it
had like this this spirituality, but it had like this
really like battle cry for me. And that's you know,
I think as an artist you have to have a
little bit of not that you're going to battle, but
it's it was just it just felt like that's what

(12:33):
I was doing, not not.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know are to some degree you are you are?

Speaker 6 (12:37):
You are?

Speaker 10 (12:37):
You are?

Speaker 9 (12:37):
You going up on stage every night and you're having
to like you're having it's it is a battle. It's
like there's these inner battles I faces as an artist,
as a lyricist, as a singer, and I know that
people are battling with multiple things in the audience and
so escaping all that, it felt like, you know, that
was the right.

Speaker 8 (12:56):
Name for the band.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Now, was it like just totally it on and everybody's like, yeah,
that's cool, or did you get any pushback or you're
kind of like, yeah, this is it. We knew it.

Speaker 9 (13:05):
We really didn't think too much about it because you
have to understand, like, at that point, you're nobody. You know,
we were literally rehearsing in a basement outside to Toronto,
tall hour hours of the night. We couldn't even really
get any good gigs. I think we had to like
pay to play clubs in Toronto. So when we picked
the name, it's like the expectations of ever doing anything

(13:25):
were pretty low. I mean, we all had dreams and stuff,
but yeah, it wasn't a big deal.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
So then how does it go from playing the basement
in a suburb of Toronto to getting Robert Palmer, not
Robert Palmer, Robert Plant. You have to Robber Plant correct that.
I love Robert Palmer, but no Robert Plant to notice
you and your earliest album and all of a sudden
you're touring for them.

Speaker 9 (13:46):
We worked hard, but it's a lot of luck like
everything in life. You know, we were touring, we were
doing clubs. We would drive to Montreal because we kind
of like played too much in Toronto, so we go
play like pizza joints in Montreal. But yeah, you know,
I went to New York for it's called the College
Music Journal. It's like a music conference for you know,
like colleges, you know that played indie music on the

(14:08):
radio stations and handed out a bunch of zds, and
all of a sudden, it was weird. I got back
to Toronto like a week later that just literally like
sharp eyed my number on these three songs that we
had recorded, and I.

Speaker 8 (14:20):
Kind of call from like Geffen in La.

Speaker 9 (14:22):
I'm like, whoa. They're like, hey, can you just tell
me what the band's doing. You have any shows coming up?
We love to send some people out to see it. I
was like, we have no shows. We're in the studio.
And so Geffen and a few other record labels flew
in from New York in LA and a couple of
record labels from Toronto and saw us in the studio
and it was it was really surreal. But even then,

(14:44):
when you think, oh my god, we're going to get
a record deal. It took a long time, Like we
toured the US and Canada for probably two years before
anything really happened, even once our first record came out.
So I gues said, a lot of luck, but a
lot of a lot of grinding.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I think that is similar. You will kind of all
share that. Very few just fall into it, I mean,
and if they do, they don't last long because they
don't appreciate that grind. They don't know the trials and
tribulations that it takes to get you to that spot.
So you don't want to lose it when you do
get it through.

Speaker 9 (15:15):
I had a conversation and we played Jon Speech in
New York last week and a friend of mine was
in some pretty influential bands. He was at the show
and he's like, Yeah, there's the difference between you guys
and a lot of bands that came up from that era.
Was you can see that you guys were like, even
though you're not a punk band, you have that punk
attitude still even on stage today. And I think that's
that grind at the beginning is what's key, because if

(15:38):
you've never had to do that, you lose You sometimes
lose that of yourself in a sense, because you can't
reflect back on those days and what it felt like.
So I'm fortunate that we did that.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Absolutely, you take it for granted if you haven't gone
through all of them. You know, to get to the light,
you have to go through the dark. Now I'm getting
a simple you know, now I'm the poet. But yeah,
so I got to get off that page because but congrats.
Twenty twenty five marks the thirtieth anniversary of making music.
Is Our Lady Piece and as a tree to your fans,
I mentioned in the beginning, you've been releasing three EPs

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throughout the past year, featuring new songs along with classic tracks,
and I've got to say one of the tunes that
really shaped your sound as Our Lady Piece with Superman's Dead,
And I've read that song was actually conceived in the bathroom.

Speaker 11 (16:25):
You know, we.

Speaker 9 (16:26):
Were in the studio making the Clumsy record and we
weren't done, but I was just sitting with an acoustic guitar. Yeah,
I was in the bathroom and you know, because it
was the only place to find space. I wasn't doing
anything but playing guitar. But that was like, that's what you.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Say that that's what you said.

Speaker 9 (16:44):
Oh, but our producer heard me playing and and said,
did you just like what is that you're playing? I said, oh,
I'm just working on something, writing something. And did you
say Superman it's dead? I was like, yeah, I think
it's you know, just kind of this this whole idea
of the bigger id and you know, going back into philosophy,

(17:04):
and and he was just like, we I think we
need to work on this. And so yeah, it was
one of those really spontaneous things that I think because
you're in the work. I think when you're in the
studio making records, you might go in with a bunch
of songs, but sometimes just because of being in that
creative space, things just pop up. And we've had that
happen a bunch. So and that was one of those

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ideas that just popped up, and thank god it did.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
M one of the second maybe best things that can
happen in the bathroom for you. But now you're a
fan of Superman, the old black and white you know
TV show. You actually were a fan of that, weren't you.

Speaker 9 (17:42):
I yeah, my mom's got this picture. It's just we
just had it blown up. I was Superman for Halloween.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh, you got to send it to me so I
can include it in the television part. Okay, I want that.

Speaker 9 (17:52):
Yes, Nick, and I put the costume on, went out
for Halloween, and then I wouldn't the story goes, I
wouldn't take it off, so like.

Speaker 8 (18:01):
A month and I would go down.

Speaker 9 (18:03):
We had this creek behind our house, which was like
there's railroad tracks and like you know, I was six,
but like kids would hang out there and that's where
they go smoke or you know, do drugs or whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, down by the create. Oh we all had it.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
Literally under the bridge.

Speaker 9 (18:19):
Yes, but my mom told me the story of like
she had to come get me because I went down
there as Superman telling these kids they had to stop smoking's.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Did you now did they Did they find you as
cute as I do? Or did you get a little
bit of it?

Speaker 9 (18:37):
They probably could have, like you know, definitely beat me
up and threw me in a bush, but they called
my mom and like, yo, you need to come get
your kid.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh that's so cute. Oh my god, I love that story.
Oh I did not know that that. You just taught
me something. And that's a keeper that really is a deeper. Yeah, well,
the irony about the song. I've also heard that's a
statement about how much television kids walk much. And yet
Superman's Dead became this huge music video sensation, spawning three
different versions, and kids were watching it all over the

(19:09):
globe over and over again. So it's kind of a
little ironic.

Speaker 9 (19:12):
Yeah, the irony of like how fast the world you know,
the world's subway, Like, you know, I just tick the
subway in Toronto a lot downtown to like record stores
and stuff when I was a kid as well, So
the idea that things were going so quickly and that
life was speeding up exponentially because of technology, and like
you look weird today and we're just you know, doom scrolling.

(19:33):
You know, you can't even stand something for like, you know,
a second. It really it's still to be, to be honest,
it's it's kind of it's almost more not profound, but
it makes more sense today than it did even then
because we just sped up so much more in the
last twenty years.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's true. And you can say it's aged well or
probably aged not well and in a different way you
think about it, but yeah, it has and that's well
again with a good lyric and and you know, something
that's very thoughtful and profound. It can transcend time, it
can evolve and go forward instead of something that you
hear like in some of the hair metal bands when

(20:09):
you hear you know, like these songs, they were very
good for their time, but they didn't really evolve.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (20:15):
Yeah, I mean I think I've always, like someone asked
me the other day, and I meet and greet just
you know, like where do you get you inspiration?

Speaker 8 (20:22):
And I always feel like it's.

Speaker 9 (20:26):
I've always been analytical, like I'm always instead of a talker,
I'm always watching more and listening to people speak and
trying to figure out, like where does the human race go?
That's always been like this thing for me. That's why
we did these records, you know, with Ray Kurzwell Spiritual
Machines and Predictive you know AI. We were talking about
AI twenty three years ago with Ray and now today

(20:48):
it's like, wow, that's all anyone's talking about. He was,
I mean, I didn't invent it, but he was way
ahead of the curve writing books on AI. So I've
always had this fascination with where humanity and.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Know you're you said you're analytical, do you find yourself
more right brain or left brain?

Speaker 9 (21:05):
I like, I think I think the balance is really key,
and that's something I actually do like talks about. I
think having that balance is so important because they work
off each other. And I think, you know, like when
you talk about like education and curriculum and schools and
and you know, I have a big beef with like

(21:26):
music being the first thing that gets pulled when like
we're in recession or something. It's like, yeah, it's like
that sucks, an why why would we ever do that?
But trying to find, you know, like that balance in
life where people appreciate the creative mind and nurture it
just like they do a muscle. Like that's that's really key.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I agree, And it's funny. My crew will laugh because
I talk about that so many times in my interviews
about how with the budgets in schools, first thing that
you cut are the arts and especially music.

Speaker 9 (21:55):
But yeah, it's ridiculous, it's like so so counterintuitive like life,
but that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
You agree, And I don't see it changing for another
few years, but then hopefully it'll recircle back and maybe
we'll see a little more resurgence in the arts. I hope. So,
I really do, because I feel like things with the
AI and all of the things you're talking about, we
need a little more of just learning about that early
youth and just kind of creating, just having that where

(22:22):
we pull things from our soul, and we don't really
get a lot of that with like you said, doom
scrolling and all of this. You know, it's an add generation.
We have to focus more on just being able to
be creative.

Speaker 8 (22:32):
Yeah, I mean deman Go said it best.

Speaker 9 (22:34):
He's like, we're all born creative, which science can back up,
but the problem is trying to hold on to it
as you grow up.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
You know, and you have a very unique style of singing,
especially in your earlier albums, and you've kind of evolved
over the years and you've gotten deeper. But many have
described it as a countertenor falsetto sound. Was that your
god given voice or was this a technique that you
somehow cultivated as you were just learning how to phonate?

(23:02):
Pretty much?

Speaker 9 (23:03):
Yeah, I think probably a little bit of both. But
I grew up listening to a lot of female singers,
whether it was like Joni Mitchell or Torri Amos and
Sinead O'Connor and those types of singers are always Byork,
like all these weird singers that would do like little
acrobatic things with their voice.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
So yeah, it was it was just.

Speaker 9 (23:20):
Trying to find a balance between that and then you know,
growing up on Neil Young and Leonard Cohen and like
that more deep almost baritone with Leonard. And I think
I think now actually like it's take in a while,
that sucks, but it's they give me a long time
to really find that balance work really well. So I
think even some of the new old piece stuff, it's

(23:42):
it's finding it's finding a way where it's it's very
comfortable right now, what's.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
The sweet spot? You know? And in a voice, certain
parts of the voice, like the middle register, the higher register,
the low register, they mature at different times. And you
were young when you started out, Like I come from
the school of opera singing and I was an opera singer,
so I always had this incredible top end. It sounds
really dirty, but I had a really good bottom end too,

(24:09):
and the middle part of my register just never really
was fully formed for a long time, and so it
took many years for that middle section that middle registered
to mature and I did that. Yeah you had, did
you find that kind of challenge?

Speaker 8 (24:24):
Very very similar to that. It was like once you
once you make that jump into like.

Speaker 9 (24:29):
Falsetto or our head voice, it was always for me,
I was like very comfortable up there, very comfortable of
the lower stuff and then the middle like you said,
it was, it's been a it's been a journey, like
really trying to feel like where that's comfortable. But yeah,
I actually love singing now. I always before. It was,
especially with falsetto and singing a lot, that you know,

(24:52):
when you're tired, that stuff becomes really hard, and when
you're on the road and we were playing like five
shows a week and you know, that stuff would always
be like a for me, like okay, can I keep
my voice?

Speaker 8 (25:01):
What's going to sound like tonight?

Speaker 9 (25:03):
And now I've got to you know, really great place
where singing is a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's great. It's nice that you mentioned because my next
point was that for males, the falsetto part of their voice,
it comes more and more challenging to do actually because
the the word the chords thick and off and it's
it's really kind of more difficult as you get older,
and it's interesting that you find that creation of sound
easier as you ate.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
Yeah, I know, I you know, not to get in
the technicality or the technical part of it. But it's
not as like crispy and bright as it used to
be maybe, but the way the way I use it now,
it's it's much more flowing. And yeah, like I said,
it's just, uh, it's it's it's more like I don't know,

(25:47):
it's it's something that it's never easy, but it just
feels much more natural.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
Which is great.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
How do you keep your voice healthy? You do what
you're touring. You're constantly touring or performing night.

Speaker 9 (26:00):
You know, you talk to so many different people. It's sleep,
like it literally for me, or at least for me,
it is sleep. If I can get like eight or
nine hours of sleep, my voice is fine.

Speaker 8 (26:10):
I do I.

Speaker 9 (26:11):
And the other thing is like I I used to
like scream and not I used like it's funny there's
so many scream o bands and these kids know how
to scream properly, like with technique.

Speaker 8 (26:21):
I didn't know that early on, so I.

Speaker 9 (26:22):
Would you know, there'd be like three points in the
show we're you're just so you know, I'm just so
into it and I and I do that and I
I screamed too hard and I was like, shit, this
is now.

Speaker 8 (26:32):
It's gonna be tough tomorrow. And so I just try
to never do that.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
Now.

Speaker 9 (26:36):
I haven't learned how to scream with the technique of
like spirit Box and all these incredible singers that can
do it. But I just you know, there's moments in
the show where I just I know, not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna blow my voice out and then screwise control.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Isn't it funny how when we age, we that knowledge
starts coming, you know, Like I say it a lot,
and a lot of my interviews do that. With that,
the youth is squandered on the young, you know, And
it's like you have to go through it and learn
to not do it or if you want to have
that intensity, like everybody wants to feel on stage, they
want to sing their heart out and it's a moment

(27:11):
and you just let it go and as you should.
You want to give everything to your fans, but you
have to be smart too, and that's what you learn
as you go.

Speaker 9 (27:18):
No, I wish I would have known that that's okay,
we're here, we're still playing. I feel like I was
going to say live, so we're lucky for that.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I was gonna say it worked out pretty well for you.
And who knows, maybe I should have met you back
then and I could have given you this talk back then.

Speaker 8 (27:33):
Oh my god.

Speaker 9 (27:33):
You know what the best part is that you know,
there's people had video cameras and stuff like fifteen years
ago within that phone. So I feel like now I'm
like people put stuff up and it's like, oh, that
sounds pretty good. And there's i mean, everyone's you know,
everyone holds out their cameras every night filming. So I'm
glad to be in this place right now.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
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Speaker 2 (32:14):
Welcome back to the scene with Dorene part of the
Beasley Media Group family. I'm your host and Rainy and
Queen on the scene Jorene Taylor. I've been chatting with
founding member, lead vocalist, and primary songwriter for the iconic
post grunge band Our Lady Piece throughout the past year.
To celebrate the thirtieth anniversary, the band has been reissuing
special EP collections of classic hits with new songs as

(32:35):
a gift to their forever longtime fans and coming out
of break you heard a small clip of whatever reducts
the song well loved by fans from the beginning but
not performed in the last eighteen years. Rain Maida, welcome
back to the show. Uh, welcome back.

Speaker 8 (32:52):
Another great intro.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah that was good. I was kind Yeah, well there
you go. See I'm getting I'm getting good marks from you.
And again, congrats on the thirtieth anniversary of Our Lady Piece.
Can you imagine thirty years did you? Like you said
in the beginning, you had no idea when you even
renamed it that you would be weak into it, and
here we are thirty years later.

Speaker 8 (33:12):
Yeah, it goes quickly.

Speaker 9 (33:13):
I mean, no regrets obviously, but yeah, missing some moments probably,
you know, because it does go quickly. And again, I
was always like, even meeting Robert Plant for the first time,
he wanted to talk about Navid and the lyrics, and
he loved the songs, and that's why he called us
to come open for them. And I was just like,
I was there, but I wasn't there. I wasn't as

(33:35):
present as I should have been for a lot of moments.
So trying to take that all in now, well.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
You're reissuing a lot of these songs and it's kind
of like you're reliving those memories but now who you
are today. And it's interesting. The song I played coming
out of Break is a very big reminder of I guess. Yeah,
for those that don't know our Lady Piece wrote whatever
for the WWE in two thousand and three and it
was used by Canadian wrestler Crispin Wah his entrance theme.

(34:01):
And then four years later, Ben Wah did the unthinkable
and murdered his wife and young's son before killing himself.
Our Lady Peace distanced themselves from the song and shelved
it for two decades until now. And it took great
courage to bring back your song whatever and even greater
compassion to bring it back so that you can help
shine a light on suicide prevention and mental health awareness.

Speaker 9 (34:24):
Yeah, it's funny that song has always been you know,
since streaming started. It's like in our top three in
America and so yes consistently, Yeah and so and we
just felt like, wow, we don't want to play it,
but how do we find some balance there? So I thought,
you know, when you think about mental health, like when
that happened, there's still a lot of stigma. There still

(34:47):
is today, But I feel like we come a long
way from two thousand and seven when when Chris committed
suicide to where okay, trying to push people to not
suffering silence, you know, end stigma. Uh, speak to their friends,
speak to family, realize that there's help out there, and
so the idea of re recording the song made sense

(35:09):
in terms of, like, I changed some lyrics, you know,
I tried to I try, I try to speak a
little bit more to the mental health aspect of it all.
And and in a weird way, I never loved how
that song was recorded, So obviously getting the chance to
re record it, especially with the guy like Nick Raski
Len and Suo's an incredible producer, was was a big deal.
But now we get to talk about it, you know,

(35:30):
especially on shows like This with You or where every
cent that the song makes on streaming will be donated
to you know, mental health awareness, suicide prevention hotlines around
the country. So it just feels like we're able to
give it a second life that has real meaning right now.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
As a songwriter, you really sometimes personalize yourself so much
around these songs. They're your it's your soul. A lot
of songwriters think it's their children. And when a child
of yours you had to pull up. You had to
like kind of almost erase it. And it probably had
to be difficult for you because you, I mean, you
had to like the song. It was a very popular
song and all of a sudden you couldn't, you didn't

(36:09):
want to use it anymore. It had to be a
weird dichotomy, a little weird kind of feeling.

Speaker 9 (36:14):
Yeah, yeah, I mean when something as tragic as what
happened with Chris and his family, it just.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
It just didn't feel right.

Speaker 9 (36:23):
I mean, just just as human beings, we just it
was just a constant reminder of that. So, you know
the cliche of like time heals It's true because getting
away from that song for the last eighteen years and
knowing that we can do something positive with it, I
actually I feel I felt good about it recording it,
felt good about it, switching lyrics, and now that we're

(36:44):
starting to play it on this Unity Summer Unity to
re Collective Soul Alive, it's amazing the audience reaction. I
think people appreciate I tell the story and people appreciate that.
You know, we're trying to again shine a light on
mental health and this song is a great vehicle.

Speaker 8 (37:00):
To do it with.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Absolutely. Just this past February, you played it at one
of your shows, I believe, in Calgary for the first time,
and like you said, in almost two decades to you
you mentioned like how you know recording it and everything
and how your fans felt, But how did you feel
when you were on stage that first time performing it
in public? Were you nervous? Were you nervous?

Speaker 9 (37:19):
Yeah, yeah, I was definitely nervous. But again, I think
telling the story before before playing it and seeing the
crowds reaction in terms of they're like they've known it
a lot of We've had a lot of fans always dmsay, hey,
you know, I know it's weird, but is there any
chance you're ever going to play whatever again? And I'd
always say, I don't know, Like I just don't think

(37:39):
the time is right. So when we finally did go
do it, I felt like I felt like the reception
was really like people got the idea of like, okay,
like let's flip this and use it for something really
positive now.

Speaker 8 (37:52):
And it was amazing.

Speaker 9 (37:53):
And it's been like that every night, you know, just
even the other night. I'm always humbled by the response
it gets. You know, I think people want to hear
the song for sure, but I think they're even more
kind of proud of the fact that we're talking about
mental health on stage.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yes, that is a topic that We talk about so
many things social media and just even on TV, regular
network TV, we're allowed to talk about certain things, but
it's when it comes to mental health, we're still weirded
out by it. We still don't want to address it
or address it. Maybe a lot of issues could be
solved by getting people help.

Speaker 9 (38:26):
Yeah, and especially with males, you know, like you know,
Chris Benwant being a wrestler, like there was a male
you know, kind of role that he was playing, and
we still play that. I think males in particular are
struggling a lot with what their role is. Like you know,
there's a there's a there's a whole genre of like
you know, male toxicity and people online and you get

(38:48):
it sucked into these kind of like echo chambers of
like what it means to be a man, and it's
kind of like reverting back to really like barbaric kind
of thoughts of what you know, being a male is.
And so I think that's a struggle that a lot
of young males are facing today. So hopefully, you know,
the idea that having emotional IQ and being able to

(39:09):
speak about your feelings and not reverting back to you know,
these kind of like prehistoric male values is coming to
the forefront.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
That's good. And you've always been an advocate for a
lot of the causes that you feel strongly about. This
is something this isn't something you just decided to do
with whatever. You have been doing this all pretty much
all your career. You've been giving back to the causes
and the organizations that you feel really are part of
your values.

Speaker 9 (39:37):
Yeah, I mean, you know, to me, it always starts
with the people running these organizations. So on this tour,
we're parting with our partnering with a foundation out of
New York called Artists for Action. So it's all about
you know, mental health and gun violence. And there's a huge,
you know, initiative they have within schools of trying to
do what we're just saying, like seeing kids that are

(39:59):
in crisis and trying to find those kids early within
the curriculum and school system where you have forty kids
in a class and like no one's paying attention to anybody,
how do you find the kids that are really struggling?
And so our dis Reaction is a huge advocate for
that worked with war Child for twenty five years now,
and that's all about conflict and you know, warg worse
regions and helping kids again feel like kids. So I

(40:21):
think there's something about the you know, when I think
about our band and what we stand for, even some
of the songs, like it's trying to provide that innocence
in the human psyche where it gets stripped away so easily,
and trying to get back to that.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
And you know, it's been thirty years of making music
and I played the montage in the beginning and you
hear that sound and then you hear you know, your
new stuff with whatever reducs and how you're just reinventing
some of these songs. How do you feel what is
your biggest change do you find in your band but
also in yourself from all the way back in the
nineties to today.

Speaker 9 (41:00):
I mean, I think it's an attitude just in terms
of what when we go on stage every night now,
there's a different kind of gratitude that's really like palpable.
It's pretty profound, and I think everyone in the band
feels that and acknowledges it, and then we kind of
do on a nightly basis, and yeah, it just it's
just it's I think, you know, if you saw us

(41:22):
twenty years ago. The shows are still as intense, but
I think fans get a different sense of us enjoying
the music, and it's you know, I could be wrong,
but I feel that like it's a huge shift over
the last probably like five or six years probably since COVID,
even like getting to play live again, recording music, celebrate

(41:44):
the thirtieth anniversary, Like there's just an extreme level of gratitude,
like pulsing through our veins.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
And what is your secret toss? How do you keep
because most bands, like I always say they can't get
three minutes, much less three decades. What do you leave?
Is that just that secret sauce that resonates with your listeners.

Speaker 8 (42:04):
I think it's some music.

Speaker 9 (42:05):
And the difference is like being able to celebrate thirty
years is one thing, but we don't see ourselves as
like this nostalgic act. It's the new music is always
what has always driven us. Really, It's always been about
what are we working on now? Like what is coming up?
And so I think the fact that we're you know,

(42:25):
we're about to go back in the studio once this
you know, summer Unity tour is over, that's that's the
that's the driver you know, it's it's keeping that, like
you said, it's keeping that creative muscle going. Because if
if we're let that die and it's just like, hey,
go play the hits, people will come out and be great.
I don't think that's fulfilling. I don't know if I
do it, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
True, and you I've read, you know, many articles where
you say that your set list changes. You never know
really what you're going to play from show to show. Now,
when you're on a tour like now with Collective Soul
and Live, do you keep it pretty stationary? These are
the songs we're playing, This is our set list? Or
do you still kind of mix it up for everyone?

Speaker 9 (43:00):
We're yeah, we're mixing up a bit, not as much
as we do on our own shows. We have a
you know, we have a tour we're just routing right
now for for the US kind of like to do
the well P thirty down here in the winter, and
I think, yeah, for sure, it's gonna be different right night.
This is this is a little bit. You know, we've
changed a few things, not as much as we will

(43:20):
in the future.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Though, And so you just kind of said you're coming back,
You're going to be doing something in the winter, huh.

Speaker 8 (43:26):
We are. We're excited.

Speaker 9 (43:27):
We we got a chance to do it in Canada
like full on headline shows, and we're loving being on
this tour live and collect the Soul. But we are
definitely coming back in the winter to do othing very nice.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
And I know that you're gonna wrap up.

Speaker 8 (43:40):
Maybe yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I love it. You know what you gave me an
exclusive and I am forever grateful being you know that
we're kind of like siblings here are in geographical locations,
we're sort of you know, you know, related in some way.
But no, I know that you're also wrapping up the tour,
the Summer Unity Tour, and I believe what August, Oh god,

(44:02):
I want to say thirtieth thirty thirtieth, Yeah, yeah, Atlantic
City right here, because we're right outside Philadelphia right now,
so all my you know, if listeners in the area,
you gotta go check them out. And I would love
to come out and check you out, too.

Speaker 8 (44:15):
Oh my gosh, please love to.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I know it's kind of weird that I never did
it in Buffalo while I was there, but I'll have
to do it in you know, Philly area. Whatever you go, Yeah,
whatever you gotta do, but I want I also got
to congratulate before we go. You just recently inducted into
the Canada's Walk of Fame in June, and I just
got one question, what the heck took so long?

Speaker 9 (44:36):
Well, it's different, you know, it's not just music Walk
of Fame. Like there was two doctors that got inducted,
and Mike Weir who won the Masters, a golf player
and like the guy who started the Four Seasons hotel.
I apologize for my member's name, but like some really
impressive people, so I think I think that kind of
stuff takes it longer, but super honored, pretty surreal to be.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Want to see today you're one of what of the
thirteen they have that certification in Canada. I mean that's
pretty important as well. I just got to say, you know,
I like your modesty, It's very nice, it's endearing. Well,
I want everyone to visit our ladypace dot com for
music tour, day's cool merch and to just stay connected
to everything that is Rain madea and our ladypiece. And yeah,

(45:20):
definitely I would love to come out and say hi.

Speaker 8 (45:23):
Done on the list can I love it, all.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Right, and I will bring some either some beef on
whack or some really authentic chicken wings because we don't
have them here.

Speaker 8 (45:32):
Okay, love it. That's a deal.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
All right, it's a deal. And thank you so much
for coming and spending some time with me today.

Speaker 8 (45:38):
Oh it was amazing. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Oh you're amazing. And have a wonderful day and rest
of the tour. Yeah, thanks, all right, bye bye. Hey guys,
that's all the time we have for today, and thank
you to my guest rain Mada. For more interviews, visit
the Scene with Doreen dot Com. I'm Dorian Taylor and
on behalf of Matt myself and the rest of the
Scene with Doreen Crewe. This week, this is Radio.

Speaker 12 (46:21):
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Speaker 7 (46:34):
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Speaker 2 (46:51):
Welcome back to the Scene with Doreen. I am Doreen Taylor,
your tour guide for the hour. I love that we're
doing this new segment on the show where we highlight
awesome talent and can that can shine the much deserved
spotlight on these guests today in the spotlight on the
Scene is a band that has not only been around
for four decades, they have been credited as one of
the most influential punk bands of all time. Effigies were

(47:13):
the first great band from the Chicago music scene and
influenced the sound of bands coming up from the underground
like Nirvana. After being formed in nineteen eighty and coming
back strong after a seventeen year hiatus, Effigies are back
with a new studio album, Burned and a re release
of their classic album Forever Grounded in honor of its

(47:33):
fortieth anniversary. Today on the Scene, I have founding member
and bass player Paul Zamost in the Spotlight to talk
Effgies and more. Welcome Paul, what's going on?

Speaker 10 (47:43):
Oh, thank you? Thanks for having us.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Oh my pleasure.

Speaker 10 (47:46):
A lot happening for us right now. So thanks for
having us on.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I love it and I love that you're a bass player.
I've had a lot of amazing bass players on my show.
It seems like crazy. You had Leland Scalar, who is
a totally different genre, and then we have the up
and coming bass mo Day she was just on kicking
butt and now I have you, and I'm really excited
to have you on representing.

Speaker 10 (48:06):
Thanks for putting me in the category with them.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Oh no, No, you put yourself there, buddy.

Speaker 13 (48:11):
No.

Speaker 14 (48:12):
Lawyers always have a little different perspective than the other guys.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
It's funny because usually bass falls into the background, and
I've noticed like they're part of the rhythm section. They
usually don't stand out. But the guests that I have
on No Way, they are right out there in the
forefront and they are making it almost like a lead
and it's very cool.

Speaker 10 (48:30):
Yeah, I've been upfront like that, but a little bit
of both.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (48:34):
Players always have to be the guy that hold it
together between the guitar player and the singer.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
And it's true. It's true. And if you rush the
tempo or you drag a little bit, yeah, it can
be a train route. You know. I do want to
say you brought it up with congratulations on everything you
have going on. I mean, you have a new studio album, Burn,
and then you're re releasing this classic album, Forever Grounded,
which was really your your foray into the unk scene.

(49:00):
And it's forty years it's like crazy fortieth anniversary. How
does that feel forty years?

Speaker 14 (49:05):
Oh, it's scary and it's amazing at the same time.
I'm hard to believe it's been forty years, and then
when you listen to the two records, you won't see
that kind of gap in her sound.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Not at all. You know, when you guys started out
in nineteen eighty, there really wasn't much of a Chicago
music scene to play in.

Speaker 14 (49:22):
No, not at all, and a lot of people treated
punk as a novelty, you know, something that's going to
be around for much longer, and slam dancing, and you'd
get all kind of people dressing weird to show up
their shows because they didn't know what punk rock was.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Give me an example, what would somebody wear to a
show that had no clue what was going on?

Speaker 10 (49:42):
Plastic bags? I remember a lot of people twenty nine
like garbage bags.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Really, I I wonder that never really caught on a
I can't imagine why. Maybe now.

Speaker 14 (49:54):
It's funny because it all started out with people thought
you had to dress up like Halloween to go to
a punk show or something, and then it then became
the punctional probably the most normal dress in the eighties.

Speaker 10 (50:04):
If you look at eighties fashion, it's it's sure.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I've had a lot of eighties guests on and a
lot of the New Wave and yeah, you're right there.
Is a complete difference too far.

Speaker 10 (50:15):
Pictures of me from the eighties so pretty much the same.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
It's cool, you guys have a very loyal base in
the underground, but you never really broke through full to
the mainstream forty years after. Looking back, Why do you
think that was now in hindsight.

Speaker 10 (50:30):
Well, the market changed the whole bunch.

Speaker 14 (50:33):
I mean a lot of bands that became much more
popular ten fifteen years after they you know, actually broke
up like us because of the Internet.

Speaker 10 (50:42):
It wasn't for the.

Speaker 14 (50:43):
Internet, we probably no one would know what we were
or ever existed. So it always do you know a
plus side the new technology?

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Have you embraced it? Do you like the new technology?
Because I find some artists that have been around for
you know, four or five decades they kind of struggle
bringing themselves into that new technology.

Speaker 10 (51:01):
Yeah. I embraced it because you have to.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, you do.

Speaker 14 (51:06):
It gives you an opportunity to get to listeners all
around the globe.

Speaker 10 (51:10):
That you never could get to before.

Speaker 14 (51:11):
So yeah, so I have kind of a trade off
when it comes to the technology.

Speaker 10 (51:16):
But you know, we weren't never a UH band. It
was going to be mainstream.

Speaker 14 (51:19):
I don't think because our sound wasn't quite you know,
radio friendly for that era. Yea, you know, we probably
we probably would have moved to the West coast.

Speaker 10 (51:30):
We probably, but you know, who's to say. Hindsight's twenty twenty, and.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
It may have actually diluted your brand. You know, you
would have moved to the West coast like like a
lot of artists do, and something changes, you know, sometimes
they I don't know what, they make you vanilla, or
they smooth you out to make you that radio friendly sound,
and then you lose that identity that made you so
popular with the underground. You might have lost that core
group of people that really fell in love with you

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and were responsible for you right in the beginning.

Speaker 10 (51:57):
Yeah, I never would have had my three songs that
mean more to meet any So.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Oh, that's an amazing way to look at it. You're right,
that's the best gift out of anything I believe. I mean,
music's kind of like children.

Speaker 14 (52:06):
But yeah, I can never have any regret because it
would change.

Speaker 10 (52:10):
It's true, we've had many successes outside the band, all
of us. But let's go ahead.

Speaker 14 (52:15):
We're at a place now where I can actually devote
myself one hundred percent through the effigies, like and I
haven't been able to do that in a long time.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
It's true, they don't know what the grind was back then,
and you know, honestly, they weren't even a glimmer in
their daddy's eye back then, so it's like they weren't
even born for many many more. So, you know, you
there is something about toughening up the bands from like
the seventies and the eighties and even sometimes the nineties.
But yeah, you guys were and you were out there
doing that grind each and every day, and you're back

(52:44):
doing that grind now you're you're doing these great shows
and uh, like I said, with the Black Crows, which
is amazing.

Speaker 10 (52:50):
Yeah, I mean, uh, you would have told us this
a year ago.

Speaker 14 (52:54):
You know, so much has happened, and it's you know
what I try to tell people, what my age, you know,
don't give up dreams, keep them alive. You never know
what tomorrow is going to bring. And it's just it's
been that way to last year.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
It's true, and you know, just to kind of bring
it all home, you know, you started out nineteen eighty
forty plus years ago, what's the biggest change that you
are seeing now getting back on the road. You know,
you have the short hiatus and now you're back. What's
the biggest change that you're noticing right now?

Speaker 10 (53:21):
Well, the one most obvious to us is the venues.
I mean, there's so much better than the old days.

Speaker 14 (53:28):
They're not as far as loading equipment, the way they
run shows is today.

Speaker 15 (53:32):
Yeah, that, I mean that's something that the fan can't
know of, you know, because but there are tending places
that I mean, we started out I call theselves a
dive bar band, and uh, you know, we played a
lot of dives.

Speaker 10 (53:45):
It's like the audiences are are bigger and more receptive.

Speaker 14 (53:49):
It's like today you can be punk rock, you can
be in a rep, you could be in metal, you
could be in all that stuff where you know, back
in the day you were a punk you couldn't be
anything else, or metal you couldn't like anything else.

Speaker 10 (54:00):
Right with those kind of stupid attitudes.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
It's true, they put you in a box and you
are never allowed to even go a little bit outside
that box. And now eclectic is great. I mean I've
always been a fan of eclectic music and having a
little bit of influence from all different styles of music.

Speaker 14 (54:15):
Yeah, I mean and again with the Internet, I can
be turned on the bands in Argentina and Norway and
it's all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
It's true, and everyone can be turned onto you now
because I want everyone to visit effigs dot com to
get the new album Burned, and to get the fortieth
anniversary release of Forever Grounded, and to check out these
tour dates and to just you also have a really
cool merch page, so come, you know, get some cool
merchandise on your site. And Effigy's founding member, bass player

(54:43):
Paul Zamost, it was so much fun chatting with you
on the scene during this went so fast, and I
just wish you all the best with your new album
and the remainder of your torn Please reach out to
me again when you have something to promote. I would
love to have you back on.

Speaker 10 (54:55):
Well.

Speaker 14 (54:55):
We will be in touch next year when one of
our older albums comes out was a BFD the label
around is going to release our whole catalog.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Oh congratulations, that's incredible. Oh you must come back. Oh yes, definitely,
and maybe we'll have all of you on. We'll get
you all into that zoom window and we'll fit you there.
It'll be like the Brady Bunch. You'll all be on
the Brady Bunch.

Speaker 10 (55:15):
We'll just come into the studio.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yes, I would love that you want to visit. We're
in Philly. Come on over. You're in Chicago, You're not
that far, so come on over. You know.

Speaker 14 (55:22):
Actually we're going to be booking an East Coast tour
over spring, so who knows, we could be knocking on
your door.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
You hit me up and we will have you back on. Paul,
it was a pleasure to have you. The Effigies go
Effigies dot com and uh you have a great rest
of your day. Thank you, Thank you, Paul Fye.

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