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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Coming to you from the City of Brotherly Love. It's
the scene with Dorene going behind the scenes with the
biggest stars and getting to know the person behind the personality.
I'm Shadow Stevens and no, here's your host, billboard charting

(00:28):
recording artist and raining queen on the scene, Dorene Taylor.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey, hey, you like me?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
You really really like me.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
There's nothing like hand applause when you come out on
a show. Oh yes, it's so great. Ah, well, welcome
to the show. Of course. I'm dorean Taylor and we
have a great show coming up, so I'm glad you're
tuning in today. We have Yes, we're gonna take it
easy because we're going to slow ride it a little
with fog Hats Roger Earl, the drummer, the only founding

(00:59):
member left, so that's kind of interesting to be the
last one standing. But before I dig into taking it easy, Hi, Matt,
let's see what's today. It is a National Comic Book Day,
So happy National Comic Book Day.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Happy National Comic Book Day too.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I bet you never thought anyone on the planet would
ever wish you a national.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Hab No, especially because I don't collect comic books.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
No, I don't either. I never did ever, even like
they had little girly comic books when I was growing up,
I never had a comic book. It was not my thing.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah I had them, I had some. I think I
went through like a phase for a little bit as
a kid that would.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Think little boy has to like have one book. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
I was mainly into collecting baseball cards and stuff. So
that was my hobby as a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah. See my brother was older. Heho's four years older,
and he was a huge baseball fan. So I kind
of just became a tomboy and did that with him.
So I knew George bru I knew all these players.
I had the cards and everything, and I would just
pick if they were cute. I had no idea about anything,
or if I like the logo, like the Little Brewers
logo with the little baseball in the little ball, I
thought that was cute or you know, like and so
I was like typical girl. But I was still a tomboy.

(02:04):
But you know they were cute. I liked them. Yeah,
but no, I you know, it's funny. Everybody is a
huge comic book craze. I think it's dying a little.
I don't see as many movies coming out as much.
Remember for a while there was like every week always
coming out in the theaters. But it's it's kind of
slowing down a little. But I don't see it stopping
anytime soon.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
No, because it's still big. I mean, no matter what,
it could slow down, but it's it's still big. I
think there's movies coming out next year or something I
think I saw. But yeah, I mean I think everything
goes through phases and stuff, just like records. Records, they
die down and now everybody's a record collector again.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh the old school vinyl, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
School of vinyl. So you know, everything goes through phases.
I'm sure they'll be.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Eight track, they're gonna be cassettes. Oh god, cassettes if
they bring those back. Oh no, those were annoying. Remember
at the spool of whatever the tape came out, you
get to sit there, you know, like a pencil with
a pencil and kind of it was like surgery and
you had to get it bigger, like oh no, no,
no mixtapes. You had to make a little mixtape.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Well, you would sit there, you would listen to your
favorite radio station with a blank cassette in and then
you know it was like they had like the I
used to do it the Power nine nine NFM here
in Philly, and they had like the Power nine and
nine or something, and I knew what songs were gonna
come on, so to be ready and then I hit
record and then you get your whole fit, your your

(03:28):
favorite song recording. But the worst thing is like at
the end, like DJ comes in and it's like, oh man,
I got to hear that every time.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I think they did that on purpose. So probably people said,
you know what, you can do it. You can play
our song, but if you want the whole thing without that,
you gotta buy it. Yeah, So that was a way
for the record labels to sell more because you didn't
want the and if you want a Power ninety nine
blah blah blah, but you know you didn't want that.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, but you know our intro Shadow Stevens American Top forty.
That was huge for little cassettes and to record your
favorite songs. You say there the whole time and you
tried to can't Like you were waiting for the one
you wanted and if you missed it up, that was it.
You had to wait another week exactly, and maybe it
would have been off the charts by then and you
were screwed.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, you gave away. He told everybody that the candle
plause people don't think.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
People have no idea. It sounded, and it was exactly
the same every We had the same people in the audience,
exactly the same every single week. It was amazing.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Everybody knows it's a recorded intro.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, that's all right. Shadow Stevens comes with me everywhere
I go in my atahay case, unpack him and he
sits right here and then I put him back for
the rest of the show. But yeah, so, uh it's
not live. It's not live, but it's okay because you
know what, there are so many moving parts and stuff
that we do with these celebrities that we have on.
I don't think we could do live, not for an

(04:49):
hour long. It would be impossible to do it, you know,
the times where they don't show up. That would be fun.
Oh yeah, You'd have to interview me every single time,
and I'd have to talk about like what I'm doing
for my laundry, what I'm eating at day.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
It is Doream Part four.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
For sixty three sub section D. Yeah, no, I it
has to be done this way. I mean maybe someday
we'll advance and evolve, but this gives us the best show.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yeah, because you know, they have their own they have
a schedule too that they have to be on, and
if they had, you could only be on this day
this time.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Absolutely, you can't do it.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
You can do it.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Oh, because we don't get these little, rinkingating people. We
get big people. Oh yeah, I mean that. You know,
you got to take them when you get them. And
there's sometimes like if they gonna be oh you know what,
I don't think Matt would love this, but I can
only do midnight on like Saturday night, And somehow, if
they're big enough, I'd be like, Matt, can I do it?
I haven't done that yet though. Yeah, you don't know.

(05:46):
They have to be really big for that to happen.
And even then, I don't know, I don't even know who.
I don't know, you know, maybe Taylor Swift. I would
probably be the only one. And I don't even really
want to interview her, but if I did, I would
probably if I ever got that opportunity, Yeah, maybe, Well,
they shall never do it now because of her fiance.
It'd be a be cheating, Yeah, I be cheating on

(06:08):
They would never do it so and for other reasons too.
But you know what, we do have really great guests
that come on, and you know, today is no exception.
One of the biggest songs. I hear it everywhere Family
Guy and every cartoon, and I mean it's become synonymous
with very interesting things, cultural things, and it's just yeah,

(06:30):
So I think we just go and let's let's dig in.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, let's get to it.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
They are often referred to as the undisputed Kings of
boogie rock, earning eight gold records, one platinum record, and
one double platinum record Since nineteen seventy one. Fog Hat
has been riding high on the rock and roll train
and has been cemented in modern music history as one
of the hardest working and most electrifying bands, with hits

(06:54):
like Fool for the City, I Just Want to Make
Love to You, and of course the mega hits Slow
Ride has proven to blaze down the highway of rock
and roll, pedal to the metal time and time again.
Take a listen, Don't.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
Want you, don't want you, meant you.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Up?

Speaker 7 (07:19):
I just want me So it's so fun.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Oh yes. Flash forward fifty four years and last standing
founding member and drummer of fog Hat, Roger Earl remains
at the peak of his career, still touring and creating
new music. Celebrating fifty years. Twenty twenty five marks the
golden anniversary of their double platinum record Full for the City,
with a special reissue from Rhinal Records and a slow

(08:30):
Ride fiftieth Anniversary tour continuing across the country in select
cities all year long. Well, I'm gonna take it easy
today because it is a great treat that I get
to welcome drummer Roger Earl to the show. Welcome to
the scene with Doreen Roger.

Speaker 8 (08:46):
Him Dory. Nice to see you.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
Nice to see you.

Speaker 8 (08:49):
What are you doing.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 10 (08:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's funny. I do these shows all the time. I
interview people all over and rarely do they ask me
how I am. You're one of the first time.

Speaker 8 (08:59):
Well, you know, and my mom brought me up right,
be polite, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yes, it's always an easy question. You know what The
funny thing is, nobody actually cares to hear the answer.
I was just yeah, fine, because if I told them
the truth. Nobody'd want to sit and listen probably, but
we're going to have a little bit of fun today.
It's exciting because I every song it's like a banger,
it's like an anthem, and it's just you've never really stopped.

(09:26):
I mean, it's fifty four years since seventy one and
you're just getting the fiftieth anniversary of that mega you know,
multi platinum record and all back long ago. Started out
playing drums around the age of twelve in London. Your
first teacher was a jazz drummer and he taught uh
the drummer of the Kinks as.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
Well, I believe, so yeah, I read it in a
book somewhere. So actually my father introduced me to him
because Dad worked with him. What happened was I was
twelve years old. I was working three nights a week
after school and on Saturday mornings I worked in a bakery.
So I had my own money. We weren't rich, but

(10:06):
earning a living was always important. And I said to
Da Dad don't want to get a motorbike And he
said pardon, and he said, I said, you know, so
I need a hand. He said, well, I'm not going
to help you with that son. I said, oh, you
had one, and he said it was different. And I said, well,
I want to play drums and he said okay, and
he introduced me to my drum teacher. So that was

(10:28):
probably much better idea. I would have probably hurt myself
on the bike. Actually, I've read it a couple of times,
but my original manager said to me, you want to
get a motorbike. I said yeah, he said no, do
you know how much it costs to ensure you? Anyway,
Probably a good idea.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Anyway, Well, your parents, though, they're pretty brave to say,
you know what we're going to do. Out of all
the instruments, let's let's help him do the drums. Oh yeah,
because that's always very sonically pleasing in the house all
day long.

Speaker 8 (10:59):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a good choice actually
the first There was always music in our house. My
father played piano, somewhat on the side of like that's
what you know, alligator crawl, honey suckle rose, that kind
of stuff, and he sang a mom sang too. There
was always music in our house. My parents came from

(11:19):
the East End of London, and if you know anything
about the East Enders, they loved to sing and have
a good time anyway. My parents were like, actually, I
don't think I appreciated them anywhere near enough. Typical horrible kid.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
We all do that, we all do that.

Speaker 8 (11:36):
And I know I upset my mum many times, didn't
mean to. But I had terrific parents. They always supported
me and my two brothers in whatever adventures we wanted
to do. And like I said, there was always music
in the house. When I was thirteen, my father took
me to see Jerry D Lewis. I just started my
drum lessons and that was it. I was hooked. Wanted

(12:00):
to be a rock and roller.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
For what you wish for, there's always another side. Well
he taught you love of cars too. Aston Martin, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (12:12):
He in the fifties. He worked at their old factory
and felt them, which is ruined near where I grew
up in southwest London, in a place called Hounslow. It's
near the airport. And so I'd come home, like you know,
from school, you know, lunchtime or something, and there'd be
this like Kingfish of Blue or this red one or

(12:32):
British Racing Green Aston Martin. Outside these would be as
the Martins dB two fours and dB threes. Dad was
a panel fitter. He fit you know, the dashboards and
the doors and stuff, and so occasionally he had to
take them out for a ride to make sure they
weren't any rattles. Rattles back then. Yeah, so I was.

(12:54):
I am a car enthew as yes, to always have been.
It's it's in the blood.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Did he ever let you drive? Oh?

Speaker 8 (12:59):
Actually, my father taught me how to drive, and I
think he got a little bit frustrated with him. It's
actually my older brother, Colin, who actually taught me how
to drive. He was four years older than me. But
Dad started. I was driving. We were fishing somewhere and
I was about twelve years old, and the farmer came
along with his tract and we had to get the

(13:20):
car out of the way. So Dad was fishing and
I was sitting there with mum for a few minutes
and I said, oh, I'll do it, and I put
it sideways up a hill and nearly turned it over.
And I won't tell you what said to me, but
I learned to drive after that.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh, your big moment, and you just froze. Oh, I
set my mum again. Well, you wanted to originally do
piano first, but that was sort of taken by your brother.

Speaker 8 (13:49):
Well yeah, well there was always a piano in the house,
so you know, I would sort of. I never really
learned to play. I can play a blue as a
top by blues in the key OFC rather badly. But
other than that, no, my older brother, call him was
a piano player. He was a piano player in a
band called Mungo Jerry in the summer time Better Better,

(14:14):
and the singer in that band, Ray Dorset, was the
singer in the very first band I was in when
I was sixteen.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
So amazing, amazing. Well, you know, drums are a percussive instrument,
and piano, while they say it's string instrument, it's also percussive,
so it's not too far the apple doesn't fall too
far from the tree.

Speaker 8 (14:32):
No, no, that's that's true. Actually, yeah, everybody knows that
dory in that the piano is a percussive instrument.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
I'm going to marrow, I'm going to just blow your
mind today. You have no idea the things I know.

Speaker 8 (14:47):
Careful not this is going to be televised.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
I was going to say this, but we do addit.
We added heavily. So we're good. We can, Yeah, we're fine.
There's always a post production in all of this. Well,
you got your first premiere drum kit a few years later, fifteen,
and the rest is history.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
Yeah, I'd saved up. Dad signed on the dotted line,
but you know I paid for it. That was one
of the things because, like I said, you know, we
weren't sort of rich by any stretch, but I never
went without. There was always food on the table. And yeah,
Dad signed on the dotted line. It was a black

(15:26):
premiere Black Pearl bought Tom Tom racked Tom based drum
and two Zilgian symbols and a high hat crash and
a ride. Yeah, and I brought them home. We lived
in a very small house, council house, and it was
an attached house and the garage was attached to another garage.

(15:47):
And I started playing them in the living room. My
mum said, this will never do because they'd never had
a drum. I used to. I learned to play on pads.
All I did sat and pad right, And so they
moved dad's woodworking tools out of his woodshed and put

(16:12):
me in there and sound proofd it. And the lights
went out around eight thirteen, nine o'clock like everything. But yes,
I have to thank my parents. They were really, really cool.
How can you put how could parents encourage one of
their children to play drums? It must be crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I was going to say, glutton for glutton for punishment.
I don't know how, but you're right, Like if my
parents were to say, okay, what would you want her
to do? Yeah, soft instrument? You know something?

Speaker 10 (16:41):
You know?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I can't imagine though coming home with it's nice. I
mean it could be worse. You could have done timpany.

Speaker 8 (16:48):
Well, what about learning to play trumpet and trumpet? Now,
there are a couple of hard instruments.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's true, it's true. Or the whiny like even a
clarinet and the squel of a yes, I mean all
the woodwinds. Oh yes, a piccolo, Oh no, not a piccolo?

Speaker 8 (17:06):
Well that loud trumpet?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Trumpet? They blair, they blur, yeah, oh gosh, I think
almost if you if you play an instrument, well, it's nice.
Any instrument is great. You want to hear it around
the house. If the poor child plays it poorly, you know,
it doesn't matter what it is. You don't want it
could be a stratavarius. You do not want to hear it.

Speaker 8 (17:25):
Practice practice, practice, true, even it's date. I mean, I
mean it's like, you know, it's like you got you
got them everywhere in the house. I've got a pad
right there. Yeah, I've got pads all over it. I
actually I just play on the pads when I'm home.
I do have a w a shed. I can set

(17:45):
my drums up in, but I just sit on pads
and I have pedals in the house in three different places.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
She's gonna say she's very unforgiving. I would say she's
very tolerant.

Speaker 8 (18:01):
But actually I call her my holy trinity. Oh, my girlfriend,
my wife, and my manager.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
As it should be. I love it.

Speaker 8 (18:16):
Well. A fan not too long ago wrote had sent
me a note saying, Roger, you buried up, didn't you.
It's the truth.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Oh that's how That's what we all strive for in life,
to always find that partner that's just going to bring
us up just to that next level.

Speaker 8 (18:34):
And wecyprocate as well.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
It's wonderful, you know that good. I found out you're
quite a talented graphic artist, and you helped make money
so you could go out and pursue music, doing graphic
art design, but that was never really your love. No.

Speaker 8 (18:53):
You know, when I was in school, Like you know,
when I was fifteen, I got the school athletic prize
and the art prize, which I was quite proud of.
I was kind of surprised at the time they called
out my name, Roger Earl, you won the art prize,

(19:14):
and I'm like, oh, and Earl, You've won the senior
athletics prize and I'm.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Like, oh, very well, round okay, athletics. What did you play?
What did you do? What was your sport of choice?

Speaker 8 (19:28):
Oh? I ran long anything from like a quarter mile
up long, cross country and mile, So yeah, it was
It was great. But I don't think you could. You
can't really back then. You couldn't earn a living at
being an athlete. To be honest, I don't think I
would have ever made it to the level that it

(19:51):
is these days. But I am a football fan soccer,
I should say.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I was going to say, we're over here in the US,
so you have to specify whether it's football American or
a regular football.

Speaker 8 (20:02):
Yes, I'm a sports fan, you know, I share that
with the rest of the guys in the band. If
there's a game on that somebody in the band is
interested in. We watch it together and shout and screaming point.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, well you've been here for a while long island.
I mean, do you have a football team, American football
team that you kind of root for? Is it just
it just lost on you.

Speaker 8 (20:24):
No, there's only one team in London Arsenal.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh, there you go. My our cameraman is right from
over there. He understands he is He's British, so he
understands his language.

Speaker 8 (20:36):
Yeah. Actually was my older brother who introduced me to it,
and I am grateful for that. And it's good, fun fun.
I haven't been to a game in four or five years,
you know, because I'm here most of the time. My
older brother passed away a few months back. I watch it,

(20:58):
you know, it's on all the channels here. I always
see it and on my phone as well, and even sometimes,
you know, when we're flying somewhere it'll come up on. So.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well, we're outside of Philadelphia, so we've got the FIFA
World Cup coming next year. We're all excited in Philly,
so that's a big thing. We're getting soccer here. Yeah, a,
you're gonna come join us? In Philly next year.

Speaker 8 (21:20):
If I'm not playing, Yeah, I'd love to. Yeah, I
think I should.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh, yes, I think you should be the fan that
you are. I think it's.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
A most Actually, Arsenal came over here a couple of
years ago. They played in Philly and a few other places.
Know my I went with my brother in law. We
went to see them. That was good fun.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Actually absolutely okay true or but.

Speaker 8 (21:44):
The really nice thing over here is they put all
the fans together. You know where we were they playing
playing Manchester United or somebody or Chelsea. Normally you keep
the fans separate.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yes, that's a very wise choice here. You know.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
It's okay. We could all point and shout at each
other and call people names and where and says things
about their mothers.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
That's why our stadiums have jails in them. That's why
Americans have jails.

Speaker 8 (22:12):
They keep them separate over there. It's kind of nice.
Everybody's mixed in together.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I like it. I think it adds a little bit
of a different dynamic. Absolutely well, sure or false fog
Hat created the name during a scheme of scrabble, yes, true, true, okay,
so who came up with it? Or you know, who
was the actual one that came up? Said fog Hat, a.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
Lead singer at the time, like some Dave, we'd actually
finished our first album. Dave Edmonds was producer, and thank
you Dave because without him it wouldn't have been any good.
And we were actually going myself and Dave and Rob Price,
our guitar player at the time. We're driving into London
from where we stayed out in Oxfordshire, and it was like, well,

(23:00):
what we gonna call ourselves? Ye did in Heaven. There
were a few names suggested, but they were it didn't work.
But then Dave came up with the name and we said, okay, yeah,
why not.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
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After the break, we're going to dive into the golden
anniversary of one of the greatest rock anthems of all time.
We're going to shout more with founding member and drummer
of fog Hat, Roger Earl. You stay right there.

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Speaker 3 (25:18):
I'm so glad to see Peter and Cleveland back together again. Yeah,
me too. Now, Peter, we'll have something to do besides
flushing the toilet to Foght's slow ride. Peter, what are
you doing in there? God kaya your wife and tons

(25:42):
of water. It's not a waste and we need a
faster toilet.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Welcome back to the scene with Durene Proud part of
the Beasley Media Group family. I'm your host, Doreene Taylor
and I have the honor of chatting with last standing
founding member and drummer of fog Hat, Roger Earl. And
if you didn't recognize, that was a little clip from
a TV comedy show cartoon Family Guy Roger. Happy Anniversary,

(26:06):
Happy Anniversary. Twenty twenty five marks the fiftieth anniversary of
fog Hats, double platinum selling record Full for the City,
and you were teaming up with a special reissue of
the iconic album with Rhinal Records. That's pretty awesome.

Speaker 8 (26:21):
Yeah, it is what nineteen seventy five original bass player
left the band man she left band. In seventy four,
Tony Stevens and Nick Jamison joined us on base and
as producer. And we'd worked with Nick before. He produced
a couple of other records for us. And when we
did this tour, we recorded some dates, some dates in Atlanta,

(26:47):
but a record company found some dates we recorded in
Where was it Detroit? Detroit? Was it Detroit? They found it? Yes, No, Chicago, Chicago.
We actually we did it in two or three different places.
They found these tapes, some Chicago, the live tapes, and

(27:08):
Nick Jamieson remixed them this time. So we've got some
live stuff with Nick actually playing bass and singing background
vocals on it, and.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh, there it is. I love it. And you guys
had a contest to design art. Oh look at that.
Look at that.

Speaker 8 (27:28):
A bunch of fans sent in some stuff, their idea
of what a four for the city was, and that
they were. They were fantastic. Our fans are great, they
really are. They ranged from like six to seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I think even more. I think you're being actually, you know,
conservative on that because I think you've got younger and
you've got older.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Yeah, his one, that's when I came in.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I love it, I love it. I saw them all online.
They're awesome.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
And this one came in second. I believe this one
came in first.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I won't use the cliche drum roll please.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
There's a rock and roll which was one of our
albums right there, Dave and Rod on a TV down
here in the corner, and then there's some people up
here in the windows, and obviously this person was an artist. Yes, anyway,
it was good fun it. It keeps us in contact

(28:30):
with our fans, you know. I sometimes have a chance
to chat to them, and yeah, you know, basically, without
your fans you have, you really don't have anything. And
the reason I played music and still do it. I mean,
I'm a fan. I love music. I listen to music.
It's I remember one time, about twenty five years ago,

(28:55):
Linda and I were out in Colorado in our bikes
and we stopped at this record store and it said
over it said, without music, life would be a mistake.
You know, it's the one thing that you know, you
bring joy to people and you want to dance and
sing and sing along, and yeah, helps relieve maybe some

(29:18):
other stress of the day. And the world is pretty
weird out there.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I'm going it is a man and it's that universal language.
I say this a lot to a lot of my guests.
You don't need to speak the language. It's it's universal
unspoken language where everyone from every walk of life anywhere
can understand and come together. And it may not be
your taste, but you can all meet on a common ground.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
Yeah you can.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
You can.

Speaker 8 (29:44):
It's I'm real fortunate to have done it. But I often,
and I've said this before, I think musicians, especially ones
that are successful or I guess you know, they get
to a living at what they do. You have to
be I don't think selfish is such a good word.
But you get like everything you can do is what

(30:06):
you do. Everything else is like you know, I mean
like I love my children and I love all sorts
of things, but like when it comes to playing, it's like, right,
what you do tunnel vision, Yeah, you put everything else
aside for it. Let's see the I don't know there's
good bad, but it is what it is. Most successful musicians,

(30:29):
whatever they do, it's it's a huge part of their life.
It's and I think that's how you get good at
it or successful. But there again, I meet hundreds of
musicians on the road that don't you know, great players,
but you know they have day jobs and they suffer
at that moment they get on stage, whether it's for

(30:49):
half an hour or supporting us or whatever. It's it's
worth its music is it's therapy.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Oh, I agree absolutely, And like you said, it would
be a mistake if life did not have it. It
would be And it's interesting you mentioned Nick Jameson he's
the mastermind back for the full for the City album
and he's obviously a very talented producer and a bassist,
but also a very solid drum player right here.

Speaker 8 (31:16):
Yeah, well, Nick's the sort of person that plays everything
you hate.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
People like that I had so many years ago. Anything
they picked up they started playing, and I'm like, even
like a violin, I'm like, really, come on, seriously, right right.

Speaker 8 (31:34):
I'll give you an example. We're making the four for
the City album on a mountaintop in Vermont and lonesome.
Dave had been carrying a saxophone around with him for
three years, learning to play. When you're on the road
in a hotel, you know, wh's room. Dave's in there,

(31:56):
Pumpkin Away, and we had a house at the bottom
of this mountain where the band lived. It's the first
time he actually took three or four months off the
road to actually record. So Dave's got his sacks and
he's playing, and Nick comes in and goes. We get
to the studio the next morning, Nick's not has gone
somewhere else. He comes back with I think it was

(32:16):
a sopranino, and we were writing a song which didn't
make it on the record, called going to the Mardi
gra and he charted horn charts for Dave and him
to play. Nick had never played a saxophone before. Within
half an hour he's playing it and writing out charts
for him and Dave to play the horn section. I

(32:39):
don't know whatever happened to that song. We did finish recording.
It's called Games.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You need to find that. I think that needs to
be a special release as well.

Speaker 8 (32:47):
Yeah, it's probably hidden in the boats at Warner Brothers.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Oh that's true. Good luck with that. Good luck for
finding that one. That's incredible. Now, Okay, so you said
he wrote the charts, but they could have been all
and gibberish. I mean they might not have been good.
Were they good?

Speaker 8 (33:03):
Yeah? No, no, I mean Nick plays and David been
playing sex for like three years. Yeah, and no, they
did horn parts. I'm that bad.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
That amazing that. Yeah, that's kind of wonderful and also
very frustrating for other musicians in the room.

Speaker 8 (33:23):
Well, that's the joy of music, you know, like and
that that's really the joy of like playing with it.
I mean, I'm play in a great band. The guys
I play with I've actually always played with great players.
I mean we had fun with it. Brian Bassett, our
long time lead and Pslide guitar player, has been with
us for over thirty years now. He once there's an

(33:43):
article here he wrote he was also an adjunct professor
for a while one of the universities he is down
in Florida, and he said, playing music is like having
a conversation with somebody, and that's what you do when
you're playing, you haven't you're talking to each other again.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
The conversation that on, you know, that unspoken language that
sort of transcends everything. Yeah, your conversation.

Speaker 8 (34:10):
That's what you're doing. I'm very fortunate, and we have
a studio down in the Land, Florida. We've made four
albums there and we rehearse there and record. So the
one thing after we lost a lead singer, Alonesome Dave,
he was only fifty six, I had to take some

(34:30):
time off and try and figure out what I wanted
to do. The one thing I knew that if we
were going to continue, you have to make music. You
have to have somewhere where we can be creative. And
a friend of ours, Bill Collins, down in Florida, let
us use his studio and Brian was with the band,
so he's the bright one by the way. He's using

(34:52):
now and he can play just about everything another one
and we make music and that's what you do. And
uh yeah, it's it saved me from a life of crime,
you know what.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Or you could have been Spider Man or Batman who
knew you never know. It could have gone either way.

Speaker 8 (35:11):
Spidy Yes, Spidy Man.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, with great power comes great responsibility. I always say that,
and it's true, but I think musicians have that same
power and responsibility as well.

Speaker 8 (35:22):
Yeah, you do have a responsibility to get it right.
And I entertain everybody each night, and that's what we
try and do. And ninety nine point nine percent of
the time fans respond is it's they give it back
to you in in droves. Yeah, you know, it's because
the world is pretty strange out there. But when you

(35:45):
come to a concert, especially a fourka concert, you're here
to have fun, sing along, dance, jump out and down
and have a good time.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Isn't that what it's supposed to be about. I mean,
I love music that's serious and you know, like a
concerto or something, because that's a whole different side. But
when I go to a concert, I want to have fun.
I want to escape from the world for however long
and just dance and sing, and even if I don't
know the words, I'm going to make them up. I'm
sure a lot of your fans probably they probably all

(36:16):
know the words. But the ones that don't, I'm sure
they're they're making them up, singing on the top of
their lungs too.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
They do this.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
The other day we played. We just did two shows
in a row, and the last day we played the
Whiskey a Go Go in LA and we haven't played
there since nineteen seventy three. First time I played there
was in sixty nine when I was in Savoy Brown.
But we took the show because the previous day we
played the OC Fair in California with zz Top, one

(36:43):
of my favorite bands. Oh yes, and we got this
offer to play the Whiskey, and he said, let's just
do it. And it was great. The fans were fantastic.
It was It was a blast, It really was. Everybody
was singing the songs. There was a lot of young
faces there though.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yes, well all because of one of these like major things.
Because twenty twenty five also marks the fiftieth anniversary of
your mega hit slow Ride. And I heard that that
song originated out of a jam session in a basement
on Long Island.

Speaker 8 (37:20):
Uh, yes, that's that sort of covers it. Nick Jamison
had just joined us on bass. I'd asked him to
join the band and he said, okay, joined that he'd
come and work with play with us for a year,
and Rod Price out and I shared a house out
on Long Island. I didn't live there. I was living
up in Woodstock and Bearsville at the time. Oh yeah, Anyway,

(37:43):
we'd had the basement soundproofd and we started Dave, we
just started jamming. Dave said, I've got some words. Actually,
Nick Jamison told me. He said it was so they've
actually sang different words originally, then changed it to so
ride take it easy. But this band always, always, it

(38:07):
was always a band when we put something together. They
was the main writer. Rod Price was an incredible guitar
player and psyche guitar player, but it was the band
that always put the arrangements together. We worked with some
really good producers too, but it was always a band thing.
And this same thing came from a jam And that's

(38:30):
why it was eight minutes long originally, Yes.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
And that was edited down to what you hear on
the radio now, But yeah, eight plus minutes. It wasn't
even just eight. I think you went even over the
eight minute mark. Oh, and for a lot of people,
that is about the because I know it's a very
amorous song. It's about romance. We'll say it that way.
And I said, eight minutes is probably longer than most
of the people would have with.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
Slow about six.

Speaker 9 (38:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
I was gonna let you say it.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
All of the best songs are about six.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Amen, sex dogs, rock and roll. There you go.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
It's it's I've just done it. I'm thinking of doing
it again. Hello, would you like to do it with me?
And if not, it makes the world go round?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
It's true, it's true. I agree. So is it true
that the power went out in the studio when you
were recording it and you had to wait three whole
weeks to actually finish the tune?

Speaker 8 (39:24):
Something like that?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, break your mojo? I mean, speaking of mojo, breaks
your mojo.

Speaker 8 (39:30):
We were actually doing, you know, making show Ride and
the part where there's a the breakdown, there's a drum
and bass breakdown. The power went out, went completely dark.
Then the auxiliary power came on. Yeah, I can't remember
how long it was, but we had to quit for
a while.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Look what you guys did, You turned off the lights
your powerhouse between the two you just you just broke
a circuit somewhere.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
No I either either one of the locals had hit
a part or there was an errant moose somewhere, attacker pole, a.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Hawk, fluence of pole, or something else.

Speaker 8 (40:09):
And then we came back. I can't remember. I think
it was three or four weeks later. You might be right,
but and we just picked it up where the bas
and drums the breakdown was, and Nick I just started playing,
and Nick joined in and we pressed a few buttons
and that was it. The rest is history.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
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After the next break, we dive into the not so
secret new hobby a founding member and drummer of fog
Hat Roger Earl, and we're going to wrap it all up.
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Speaker 11 (42:18):
This one, i'd take.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
This one unfolds nicely on the palette.

Speaker 10 (42:22):
You can taste a little bit of the hickory from
the drumstick that Roger Early used to stir the mash
during fermentation.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I'd say this is the perfect wine to slug directly
from the bottle after screaming thank you Cleveland.

Speaker 10 (42:37):
This is definitely the best pano and noir produced by
seventies boogie rock supergroup fog Hat that I have ever.

Speaker 8 (42:50):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yes, welcome back to the Seama Gerine, proud part of
the Besy Media group family. I'm your host, Greene Taylor,
and I have been lucky enough to chat with founding
member drummer and now all wine maker fog Hats, Roger
Earl Roger. You have been You've become quite the wine connoisseur.
You even created your own private label of wine, fog

(43:11):
Hat Cellars. And you just heard Stephen Colbert did a
beautiful segment, huge segment at his late night show for you.

Speaker 8 (43:18):
Well, I'm a huge fan of Stephen Colbert.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Oh, yes, as on mine.

Speaker 8 (43:22):
I think if we had more people in this world
like Stephen Colbert, the world will be a happier place.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, I digress, but that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
So what are you drinking? What is that?

Speaker 12 (43:36):
No?

Speaker 8 (43:37):
Actually somebody did this when we were working on some
wine we first started about. Actually, our first one was
a two thousand and five cab from a pair of robles.
We actually played in two thousand and five. We played
the California State Fair. We did two sold out shows there,

(43:57):
and a winemaker made Steve musin s us and thought
that the name fog Hat lended itself to a wine brand,
because you know, the fog rolls in off the ocean
on the West coast and drenches the wine, and then
the sun comes out and they make great grapes. California

(44:19):
is actually they're making grapes of wine all over the
country now, but our wines comes from central coast of California.
Two thousand and five cab was our first one. Then
we had a two thousand and seven Chardenay and a cab,
and then we had a two thousand and eight chardonnay

(44:40):
and cab which I actually Linda and I actually made
along with our wine maker, you know, like picking the grapes,
which we've done before as well, but we actually saw
that all the way through. Then we had what we have.
Actually we haven't made any wine since two thousand and well,

(45:00):
which is our pino noir and a two thousand put
in the pinot is twenty and thirteen. Because the COVID
nightmare hit, yes, right, and that was pretty I mean,
it was awful for a lot of people. And I
remember at the time, I would, you know, get on whatever,

(45:22):
you know, TVs or my phone or something and talk
about it. But it was it was a really for me,
it was all right. I mean I went fishing. You know,
I'm locked up with the love of my life.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I was going to say worse things in the world.
Let me say, two of my.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
Daughter's occasionally would be at the end of the driveway
because their mother wasn't very well, and they would we
would wave and we would talk.

Speaker 7 (45:49):
But it was.

Speaker 8 (45:52):
It was yeah, it was pretty strange. But I have
to say this again. The people that I admire most
was like that, especially the nurses and the doctors, the
truck drivers who were out there doing all that stuff.
They didn't stop. The rest of the world came to
a halt. And like the fact that all this money

(46:13):
was given away by the government. Government's giving money away.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yes, PPP payroll protection something I don't even remember, but yes.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
But it was.

Speaker 8 (46:25):
But nurses and doctors, they were the ones who went
who were like out there and I have and guys
who were driving women who were driving trucks and delivering
the food that was you know, maybe it's something that's
when this country, I mean America, you see the best

(46:46):
when there's a real problem like that. Yes, and most
of them and like ninety nine percent of the people,
but like everybody was very supportive and trying to sort
of do something. Yes, they've forgotten about nurses. I saw
the other day. They're trying to stop reduce their Oh,
don't get me started.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
No, it's true. If you want every day there's.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
Something union.

Speaker 8 (47:13):
I've started already. See what you've done.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
I know I'm a bad influence.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
I do this.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
I do this all the time. But no, if you
pay attention to the news cycles, oh my goodness, it's maddening.
I can't keep them straight. And it's like, you know,
my brain's going to explode. Like I said, I'll explode
your brain in the interview, explodes mine. But yes, we
have short term memories.

Speaker 8 (47:37):
Yeah, we're working on a new album at the moment.
In fact, we were just down at the studio down
in Florida ten days ago and Scott Holt and I
were like, we're listening to the stuff we'd already done,
and we were working on three or four new songs
and that should be out probably next year. This this

(48:00):
is the one oh full for the City. Yes, and
there's some new live recordings on here that Nick Jamison
actually mixed and put together some songs that we've never
recorded live before anyway, all through.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Rhino Records re releasing, very very nice.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
Yeah, yes, I haven't changed a bit.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Not at all. I mean, it's like looking into it's
a weird like mirror looking glass. Is this crazy? Lie?
I think you have less facial hair than me though.
There I'm just saying, I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm very
ass self duprecating over here. But you know, I do
want to say, because we're kind of wrapping it down

(48:46):
and winding it down, and you are really You've been
doing it fifty plus years. I consider you you were
an expert at drums. So technology has changed so much
over the past five decades. What are your thoughts about
overly compressed drums of today or even worse drum samples
and loops?

Speaker 8 (49:06):
You know, the thing is that they're all tools.

Speaker 12 (49:11):
You know.

Speaker 8 (49:11):
It's like AI is a tool, Yes, you know, to
use it I have. I'm a total ladd I you know,
I don't. I don't even like touch computers. Ah, turn
it off, but no. And I have an electronic drum
kit in the spare bedroom upstairs and it and they

(49:35):
and they're cool and there's all this new stuff going on.
But I'm locked into a time and place where, you know,
playing live. I don't know how new bands actually, I
guess they how they actually get a gig, how they
get somewhere to play. When I was growing up, you know,

(49:57):
you could I'm sixteen years old. I could rent a
pub at sixteen and growing up in southwest London and
they play there and they charge you know, ten shillings
to get in and I actually earned some money.

Speaker 12 (50:13):
It was.

Speaker 8 (50:14):
But the world has changed and the way music is
played still people still want to hear us, which I'm
glad about. I think I think we maybe got it
right in the first place. It's music should change, it
shouldn't be the same. When I when I was a kid,

(50:35):
I always wanted to come to the States. It was
like it was this magic place. It's the place where
music came from comes from. You know, without the Blues,
there will be no contemporary music blue and you've got jazz, bebop,
country music, gospel music. Let's not forget soul music. Detroit.

(50:58):
I mean, come on, this is the land of music,
and America gave music to the world. It did, you know,
and even today, you know, contemporary artists the States, everybody
around the world listens to American artists and they influence
everything and everybody that's out there. I mean, I haven't

(51:23):
seen Taylor Swift, I haven't. Haven't mean saw some stuff
up on TV from time to time. An amazing woman,
an incredible artist that she's got millions and millions of fans.
But her music has affected the world.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yes, and it's.

Speaker 8 (51:44):
American music has always done that. American artists have always
done that.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Well. Some British bands, we could argue to say, like
the Beatles, and you know.

Speaker 8 (51:55):
They will listen to American artists to that's where their
influence came from.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
But I interview American groups all the time and they
say their influence came from the Beatles. So it's a
round and round circle.

Speaker 8 (52:10):
This is the land of music.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 8 (52:14):
And I played with some of my musical heroes in
nineteen seventy seven, I think it was my father's sixtieth birthday,
and I brought mom and dad over here, got my
hotel in Park Lane in the city, and they stayed
with me, of course, and we did a show in

(52:36):
Manhattan called Four Cats Tribute to the Blues, and we
were the house band and we backed Muddy Waters, John
Lee Hooker, Johnny Winter, Paul Butterfield, Eddie Bluesman Kirkland, and
I remember backstage we were taking a break and I

(53:00):
was I introduced my mom and dad to Muddy Waters,
and I said, Dad, this is mister Muddy Waters. And
they knew who he was because my real real introduction
to Muddy's music was I bought it was Muddy Waters
Live at Newport in nineteen sixty I didn't get it
to nineteen sixty three, but I wore the record out,

(53:23):
So there is their youngest hanging out and playing with
his musical heroes. I think that exonerated all the stuff
I may have done wrong. And Muddy Waters was was
an absolutely beautiful manner and a giant as far as
I'm concerned in the music field, and I took something
from him. Anyway. Mum and dad were introduced, and I

(53:46):
was really sort of feeling good. Muddy and Dad were
like talking, and then Muddy looks across the room and
he sees who was Eddie Bluesman Kirkland and he said
it looked it looked at he said, I know you.
I kept that because I meant so many people and
instead of saying what's your name, I know you and
then they say, yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
So it's perfect that it's good.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
It is good.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
It is It's very good.

Speaker 8 (54:13):
God, I thank you. Mouddy.

Speaker 9 (54:15):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
That's what you took from Muddy. That's awesome. Well, I'm
never going to forget that I'm a fan of you
and that I have really really enjoyed our time. I
want everyone to check out fog hat dot com for news, music,
tour dates, and more. Pick up your special fiftieth anniversary
reissue reissue A Fool for the City on Rhino Records
out now everywhere where you can purchase good music and

(54:36):
just stay connected to everything that is fog Hat and
the wonderful Roger Earl. It's been incredible talking to you
and I again. I could talk your stories many many,
many more and you are just full of great tales.
And I would love to do a part two with.

Speaker 8 (54:52):
You, and that will be fine doing. I've enjoyed, thoroughly
enjoyed talking to you as well, and maybe we'll get
to meet.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
I would love that. I'm in Philly, yes, anytime we're close,
We're not that far apart, and we go fishing. I'm Philadelphia,
so we can. You know, you can come down fishing.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
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hammer on an agreement on a short term deal. VPJD
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