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Speaker 1 (00:05):
You tune to the Shan O'Connell Show for the Murdock
vro Ray Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
to one a half m.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell Show. Welcome man, Ari
tim Kin, Big twelve Radio brand of the program. And
we get closer and closer to the Utah football season.
Even closer than that is the beginning of the Big
twelve football season. With Farmageddon being inexplicably played in the
Emerald Isle, that'll be a Week zero game, the best
(00:37):
Week zero game, and honestly, if it was in Week
one had been one of the best Week one games.
Come in short order, all right, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
How are you, great man, how are you? And we
got some WWE in the same Emerald Isle for some
Big twelve Wree collab. Maybe we can get Dana White
to bring the UFC out there and really get the
combat sports rolling too.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Make it the trifecta. You go UFC, WWE college football
in one weekend. That'll get people's mail blood flower.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, like you get the real wrestling to say wrestling
and you know, and then football of the better.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We were just talking about this this new you know,
the rumor of further discussion about an expanded college football
playoff model that the Big twelve gets to kind of
like raise a hand to offer a vote, But it's
going to be the SEC and the Big Ten that
decide on what actually ends up happening with an expanded
college football playoff model after this year where we will
(01:37):
see twelve teams again, it's going to go somewhere else
and twenty four, twenty eight those have been proposed now,
and it sounds like the Big Ten is more interested
than the SEC is. The automatic bid thing becomes a
massive talking point in an ideal world, in a world
that you know would best serve the Big twelve, what
(01:57):
is what is the most you're you're going to see
this conference get whatever model is adopted in terms of
automatic qualifiers for an expanded college football playoff.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's a great question. I love the way you mentioned,
you know, the Big twelve has to get to say
in it, I mean this this you know memorandum of
agreement where they're referring to it as basically gives the
SEC in the Big Ten all the power. But within
there it's like, well, maybe got to talk to us first,
you know, like you you can make decisions. You know,
it's like a it's like a household where it's like
(02:28):
either the mother or the father is going to make
the ultimate decision, and that changes depending on the household.
But like, you know, just talk to the other one
before you make this should just make them aware. You know,
I don't know if it's going to change anything, but
just make sure they're aware of it. And then, of course,
you know, you're referring to the latest iteration from the
Big ten, which is the seven the old seven seven
(02:49):
five five two to two model we've got. We're speaking
in sequences of numbers. Now, you know, it's not the
five eleven, it's not the four four two two one,
the seven seven, five five to two. Yeah, I personally
would love o see the eight six seven five three
oh nine model. That's the model I think we should
go with. I don't know what the automatic bids look
(03:11):
like there, but we can figure it out. At least
there it's a little bit easier to think, to remember
the sequence. And then at least you know, Tommy Tutone
gets some more loves, you know, pretty years removed from
that song. So I mean that's what I'm all.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I will say this, Baldus points to you, I did
not think we were gonna hear eight six seven five
three to Zho Nah on the show today. That's incredible,
what a callback.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But I mean these sequences forgot too, you know, like
four four two, two one eight five eleven seven seven
five five, Like, what are we talking about here? And
how are we supposed to convey this to the public.
It's ab third, you know, like people make these decisions
from an ivory tower that any concept of like human
beings and the ability to like you know, internalize this
(03:56):
stuff where because like you know, we grew up in
sports that you know, you won your division, you got
the playoffs and not then they added to wild card.
So it's like very self explanatory. But trying to explain
this to people, it's just it's absurd. It's such a joke.
It's like it's it. I mean, I'm not even joking
about the seven five three or not because it might
be the easiest way to remember any sequences. It's so ridiculous.
(04:18):
But getting to the question, you know, look, I don't
think there's clearly a divide here between the SEC and
the big tens feeling on this and you know, so
mama and Dad are fighting here and the rest of
the college football world is just trying to figure out, Okay,
where are we carving our spot? Yeah, I mean, I
guess I don't mind the twenty eighteen playoffs because that
(04:40):
would mean more of automatic bigs to the Big twelve.
But I think like that would dramatically change everything about
college football. Like forget about not playing conference championship games anymore.
I mean, how do you you know, how do you
create tie breakers in a situation where the five best
teams of the Big twelve get in? I mean, it
will could completely change everything about the regular season. And
(05:03):
I mean tiebreaker it just it makes my brain her
to try to think of any ways that they could
do it. But yeah, I mean, I'm I'm of the
belief that any you know, additional guaranteed spots go you know,
to the Big twelve as many as the Big twelve
can possibly get. Look, I also think going from twelve
to twenty eight, Like, I mean, this is a sport
(05:24):
that for one hundred years could even decide who the
you know who who the national champion was. And so
he'd shared national Championships and then you know, finally we
got the BCS and then you know, and then we
got the four team playoff, and it's like, man, things
have accelerated at a breakneck pace. To go from like
one hundred years of like we're not even sure who
the national champion is, it's now having four to twelve
(05:45):
to whatever the growth is. I think it would be
it would be a bad idea to go from twelve
to twenty eight. I think eventually we get to twenty eight.
But I also think it's kind of a joke to
get that many automatic bids for that many leagues and
then when you remember that, like, well there's two at
large bids, well one of those is gonna go to
Notre Dame every year because if you've got I mean, well,
(06:07):
I mean che look at the standings of the Big
Ten last year, like you you're talking about a five
and four Michigan team or a five and four Minnesota team,
Like that's a joke, you know, like especially compared to like,
you know, the the NCAA Tournament of Basketball, where at
least every conference gets their conference champion into the tournament, Like,
I you know, far be it from me to say
(06:28):
that the champion of the Sun Belt should compete with
the five and four Minnesota team in in a tournament
type setting. So I think it's kind of a joke
for the Big ten to throw this out there in
a sense of like let's see, let's see how people
react to it. But ultimately it's more of like a
shot at the SEC. Like what we have here is
this kind of hilarious soap opera playing out right now
(06:49):
between the SEC and the Big ten, and I'm here
for it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So the number that the top number of automatic bids
a Big twelve could get in what will probably end
up being a sixteen team playoff probably is what two two?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, And even then, you know, I just I feel
like there's more moment I think what happened is there
became a bunch of momentum for the five plus eleven,
and you know, the SEC wasn't happy with it, and
the Big ten was like, well, we're going to take
her home, and you know, so the SEC wants more
guaranteed bids, but it looks like the you know, sixteen
(07:28):
team playoff with five automatic bids and then eleven at
large bids. It's just not something the SEC wants to
get on board with whether the coaches said something completely
different at SEC media days, but clearly we would have
a sixteen team playoff with if if they agreed, because
that's what the Big ten wanted, that's what the Big
twelve want, that's what the a SEC wanted. Well, now
we see majority rules here, right, the SEC would be
(07:48):
the majority, or in this case it's the SEC in
the Big ten, but clearly the SEC has more poll
when three of the four conferences want one thing and
they don't, so who's really driving the bus? But you know,
the other thing to you OC is like the ACC
thing is not going anywhere, like those those teams are unhappy,
they want to get out. There's already rumors that North
(08:09):
Carolina is trying to put together a situation where they
can get out by you know, the next three four years.
Like that's not going the way and that's not getting
any better. The ACC is on a is on a
clock right now, and their future is tenuous at best.
So there's also this sort of like, well, let's wait
and see what happens there, because the Big twelve stands
to gain, you know, from the loss that the ACC
(08:31):
will eventually suffer. But like you know, when we're talking
about a TV deal for the Big Twelve getting to
twenty thirty one or the I think it's the SEC
or the Big Ten that's twenty thirty, you know, the
ACC in twenty thirty six, Like, no, it'll be before that.
Like if by twenty thirty, I think we should be
down to three power conferences, which includes the Big Twelve.
(08:51):
What it all looks like and what the playoff looks like,
that's what means to be seen.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
How closely tied to the ACC's event will demise is
whatever happens in the Big twelve. Is that North Carolina
getting out or whatever? Is that the falling domino that
creates another mad rush?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, And I mean I guess it depends on what
the numbers look like in terms of what the SEC
wants to add, and of course what you know the
Ten would then, you know, from a corresponding move want
to add. You know, there's some rumors that that KU
that University Kansas is you know, trying to become attractive
to both the SEC and the Big Ten, and that's
a big part of the push to add to their
(09:33):
stadium the way that they have and whatever. So you know,
there's like a game of musical chairs here, and you'd
think that, Okay, the ACC has let's say four or
five schools then ended up going to the SEC in
the Big Ten. Well, then that just means more schools
for the Big twelve to add. But you know, when
things are open, they're open, and so you never know
what can happen in terms of potential outgoing members. But
(09:54):
if things stood where they are, yeah, you would think
that the top of the a CEC. And we're talking
about Clemson in Florida State and North Carolina, you know,
and and who knows about Duke. Maybe Duke joined the
Big Ten. They seem to kind of fit that, and
then maybe the rest go to the SEC. Well, then
you've got a spot where, if you're the Big twelve,
you can kind of pick and choose where you want
(10:17):
to go. You know, do you add a Virginia in
to Virginia Tech to have that rivalry? Do you add
you know that, do you ad a Louisville Because that
makes a ton of sense. So I think you know,
ultimately what we're looking at in the next five to ten,
five to six years is who defects from the ACC
and who goes to the SEC in the Big ten,
who's left? And what does that mean for the Big
(10:37):
twelve in terms of who you'd want to add? But
like it's it's very clear that there is, you know,
a huge disconnect between what's happening to the ACC, and
like that is inevitable, Like the ACC is going to
break apart. It's just a matter of when.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
All right, Tim, good for another couple of minutes here
on the Sean O'Connell show. This is not a Big
twelve question, but it applies to all of college football
at least I think on some level Michigan show cause
penalties for Jim Harbaugh, who of course doesn't care. At
this point, the Wolverines were going to miss out on
(11:13):
probably about twenty million dollars or more because of punishments
where they have to forfeit postseason revenue. There's been documentaries
made about the cheating scandal. They're the butt of plenty
of jokes. Is it costly enough now that I think
they're putting a bow on all this that other people
(11:35):
will say, Ah, man, I don't know, I don't know
if we want to cheat or is this just like, hey,
you got to be better at beating the system than
they were.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I think that's a great way to phrase the question.
I see, Like, I think it almost like ultimately what
it says is like the the enscablas over here, like, hey,
look at us, we still matter. Hey remember us, We're
still relevant. Look at us, like what we could do?
Look at this boom bow tough penalty we levied on Michigan.
How good are we? Yeah, I mean I think I mean, no,
(12:05):
it doesn't you know, No, the punishment here does not
fit the crime if the crime is cheating. And I'm
not even sure we know what the crime is yet, right,
like it it's sort of like, well, here's the punishment.
What they do? I don't know, they kind of got caught,
I mean, you know what they did. It's like, but
but why are you punishing them? Right, so they cheat
or not? Because I remember there being a conversation whether
or not they were just kind of you know, getting
(12:26):
ahead and exploiting the gray areas or if they actually cheated,
Because if they did, then the punishment it doesn't get
close to sit in the crime. And yeah, I mean
it incentivizes them to do so. And yeah, if you're
Michigan or House Date or Georgia or Texas or you know,
I mean, you're Alabama. You're too big to fail. So
there's no way the NCAA or the College Football Playoff
(12:47):
it's going to bite off its nose despite its face.
You know, you're not going to say, Michigan, you can't
be in the playoffs the next five years. I mean,
you're not gonna at the cash cow for you. It's
one of the major cash CAUs for you. So yeah,
I mean it's a joke. We're not even sure at
this point what they're actually being punished for, because it's
all just innuendo and like, I guess what we thought
(13:07):
it was, but it's not right. It's like such a weird,
bizarre thing. And again it's still the nc double A.
Like here we are three years later, after the dust
has settled, all the jokes and memes have been gone,
and already you know, pulled that, Like they couldn't do
anything quicker than this. I mean, this is this is
the whole reason the NCAA has failed, The reason the
NAA is in the spot that it's in, and it's irrelevant.
(13:30):
The nsable A is is wildly irrelevant and the only
way it keeps his relevance is by doing this slap
on the wrist, and you know, by Charlie Baker going
in appearing on different talk shows to talk about how
relevant the N douablea.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Is well articulated and incredibly frustrating. Ari, appreciate your time.
Next week we'll actually have it's a game week, we'll
actually have a matchup in the details of that matchup
to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Can't wait. Appreciate your brother, Take care, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Ari Tempkin at Ari Sports on Twitter, Big twelve Radio
over on tune in, check 'em out,
You tune to the Shan O'Connell Show for the Murdock
vro Ray Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
to one a half m.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell Show. Welcome man, Ari
tim Kin, Big twelve Radio brand of the program. And
we get closer and closer to the Utah football season.
Even closer than that is the beginning of the Big
twelve football season. With Farmageddon being inexplicably played in the
Emerald Isle, that'll be a Week zero game, the best
(00:37):
Week zero game, and honestly, if it was in Week
one had been one of the best Week one games.
Come in short order, all right, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
How are you, great man, how are you? And we
got some WWE in the same Emerald Isle for some
Big twelve Wree collab. Maybe we can get Dana White
to bring the UFC out there and really get the
combat sports rolling too.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Make it the trifecta. You go UFC, WWE college football
in one weekend. That'll get people's mail blood flower.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, like you get the real wrestling to say wrestling
and you know, and then football of the better.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We were just talking about this this new you know,
the rumor of further discussion about an expanded college football
playoff model that the Big twelve gets to kind of
like raise a hand to offer a vote, But it's
going to be the SEC and the Big Ten that
decide on what actually ends up happening with an expanded
college football playoff model after this year where we will
(01:37):
see twelve teams again, it's going to go somewhere else
and twenty four, twenty eight those have been proposed now,
and it sounds like the Big Ten is more interested
than the SEC is. The automatic bid thing becomes a
massive talking point in an ideal world, in a world
that you know would best serve the Big twelve, what
(01:57):
is what is the most you're you're going to see
this conference get whatever model is adopted in terms of
automatic qualifiers for an expanded college football playoff.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's a great question. I love the way you mentioned,
you know, the Big twelve has to get to say
in it, I mean this this you know memorandum of
agreement where they're referring to it as basically gives the
SEC in the Big Ten all the power. But within
there it's like, well, maybe got to talk to us first,
you know, like you you can make decisions. You know,
it's like a it's like a household where it's like
(02:28):
either the mother or the father is going to make
the ultimate decision, and that changes depending on the household.
But like, you know, just talk to the other one
before you make this should just make them aware. You know,
I don't know if it's going to change anything, but
just make sure they're aware of it. And then, of course,
you know, you're referring to the latest iteration from the
Big ten, which is the seven the old seven seven
(02:49):
five five two to two model we've got. We're speaking
in sequences of numbers. Now, you know, it's not the
five eleven, it's not the four four two two one,
the seven seven, five five to two. Yeah, I personally
would love o see the eight six seven five three
oh nine model. That's the model I think we should
go with. I don't know what the automatic bids look
(03:11):
like there, but we can figure it out. At least
there it's a little bit easier to think, to remember
the sequence. And then at least you know, Tommy Tutone
gets some more loves, you know, pretty years removed from
that song. So I mean that's what I'm all.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I will say this, Baldus points to you, I did
not think we were gonna hear eight six seven five
three to Zho Nah on the show today. That's incredible,
what a callback.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But I mean these sequences forgot too, you know, like
four four two, two one eight five eleven seven seven
five five, Like, what are we talking about here? And
how are we supposed to convey this to the public.
It's ab third, you know, like people make these decisions
from an ivory tower that any concept of like human
beings and the ability to like you know, internalize this
(03:56):
stuff where because like you know, we grew up in
sports that you know, you won your division, you got
the playoffs and not then they added to wild card.
So it's like very self explanatory. But trying to explain
this to people, it's just it's absurd. It's such a joke.
It's like it's it. I mean, I'm not even joking
about the seven five three or not because it might
be the easiest way to remember any sequences. It's so ridiculous.
(04:18):
But getting to the question, you know, look, I don't
think there's clearly a divide here between the SEC and
the big tens feeling on this and you know, so
mama and Dad are fighting here and the rest of
the college football world is just trying to figure out, Okay,
where are we carving our spot? Yeah, I mean, I
guess I don't mind the twenty eighteen playoffs because that
(04:40):
would mean more of automatic bigs to the Big twelve.
But I think like that would dramatically change everything about
college football. Like forget about not playing conference championship games anymore.
I mean, how do you you know, how do you
create tie breakers in a situation where the five best
teams of the Big twelve get in? I mean, it
will could completely change everything about the regular season. And
(05:03):
I mean tiebreaker it just it makes my brain her
to try to think of any ways that they could
do it. But yeah, I mean, I'm I'm of the
belief that any you know, additional guaranteed spots go you know,
to the Big twelve as many as the Big twelve
can possibly get. Look, I also think going from twelve
to twenty eight, Like, I mean, this is a sport
(05:24):
that for one hundred years could even decide who the
you know who who the national champion was. And so
he'd shared national Championships and then you know, finally we
got the BCS and then you know, and then we
got the four team playoff, and it's like, man, things
have accelerated at a breakneck pace. To go from like
one hundred years of like we're not even sure who
the national champion is, it's now having four to twelve
(05:45):
to whatever the growth is. I think it would be
it would be a bad idea to go from twelve
to twenty eight. I think eventually we get to twenty eight.
But I also think it's kind of a joke to
get that many automatic bids for that many leagues and
then when you remember that, like, well there's two at
large bids, well one of those is gonna go to
Notre Dame every year because if you've got I mean, well,
(06:07):
I mean che look at the standings of the Big
Ten last year, like you you're talking about a five
and four Michigan team or a five and four Minnesota team,
Like that's a joke, you know, like especially compared to like,
you know, the the NCAA Tournament of Basketball, where at
least every conference gets their conference champion into the tournament, Like,
I you know, far be it from me to say
(06:28):
that the champion of the Sun Belt should compete with
the five and four Minnesota team in in a tournament
type setting. So I think it's kind of a joke
for the Big ten to throw this out there in
a sense of like let's see, let's see how people
react to it. But ultimately it's more of like a
shot at the SEC. Like what we have here is
this kind of hilarious soap opera playing out right now
(06:49):
between the SEC and the Big ten, and I'm here
for it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So the number that the top number of automatic bids
a Big twelve could get in what will probably end
up being a sixteen team playoff probably is what two two?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, And even then, you know, I just I feel
like there's more moment I think what happened is there
became a bunch of momentum for the five plus eleven,
and you know, the SEC wasn't happy with it, and
the Big ten was like, well, we're going to take
her home, and you know, so the SEC wants more
guaranteed bids, but it looks like the you know, sixteen
(07:28):
team playoff with five automatic bids and then eleven at
large bids. It's just not something the SEC wants to
get on board with whether the coaches said something completely
different at SEC media days, but clearly we would have
a sixteen team playoff with if if they agreed, because
that's what the Big ten wanted, that's what the Big
twelve want, that's what the a SEC wanted. Well, now
we see majority rules here, right, the SEC would be
(07:48):
the majority, or in this case it's the SEC in
the Big ten, but clearly the SEC has more poll
when three of the four conferences want one thing and
they don't, so who's really driving the bus? But you know,
the other thing to you OC is like the ACC
thing is not going anywhere, like those those teams are unhappy,
they want to get out. There's already rumors that North
(08:09):
Carolina is trying to put together a situation where they
can get out by you know, the next three four years.
Like that's not going the way and that's not getting
any better. The ACC is on a is on a
clock right now, and their future is tenuous at best.
So there's also this sort of like, well, let's wait
and see what happens there, because the Big twelve stands
to gain, you know, from the loss that the ACC
(08:31):
will eventually suffer. But like you know, when we're talking
about a TV deal for the Big Twelve getting to
twenty thirty one or the I think it's the SEC
or the Big Ten that's twenty thirty, you know, the
ACC in twenty thirty six, Like, no, it'll be before that.
Like if by twenty thirty, I think we should be
down to three power conferences, which includes the Big Twelve.
(08:51):
What it all looks like and what the playoff looks like,
that's what means to be seen.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
How closely tied to the ACC's event will demise is
whatever happens in the Big twelve. Is that North Carolina
getting out or whatever? Is that the falling domino that
creates another mad rush?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, And I mean I guess it depends on what
the numbers look like in terms of what the SEC
wants to add, and of course what you know the
Ten would then, you know, from a corresponding move want
to add. You know, there's some rumors that that KU
that University Kansas is you know, trying to become attractive
to both the SEC and the Big Ten, and that's
a big part of the push to add to their
(09:33):
stadium the way that they have and whatever. So you know,
there's like a game of musical chairs here, and you'd
think that, Okay, the ACC has let's say four or
five schools then ended up going to the SEC in
the Big Ten. Well, then that just means more schools
for the Big twelve to add. But you know, when
things are open, they're open, and so you never know
what can happen in terms of potential outgoing members. But
(09:54):
if things stood where they are, yeah, you would think
that the top of the a CEC. And we're talking
about Clemson in Florida State and North Carolina, you know,
and and who knows about Duke. Maybe Duke joined the
Big Ten. They seem to kind of fit that, and
then maybe the rest go to the SEC. Well, then
you've got a spot where, if you're the Big twelve,
you can kind of pick and choose where you want
(10:17):
to go. You know, do you add a Virginia in
to Virginia Tech to have that rivalry? Do you add
you know that, do you ad a Louisville Because that
makes a ton of sense. So I think you know,
ultimately what we're looking at in the next five to ten,
five to six years is who defects from the ACC
and who goes to the SEC in the Big ten,
who's left? And what does that mean for the Big
(10:37):
twelve in terms of who you'd want to add? But
like it's it's very clear that there is, you know,
a huge disconnect between what's happening to the ACC, and
like that is inevitable, Like the ACC is going to
break apart. It's just a matter of when.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
All right, Tim, good for another couple of minutes here
on the Sean O'Connell show. This is not a Big
twelve question, but it applies to all of college football
at least I think on some level Michigan show cause
penalties for Jim Harbaugh, who of course doesn't care. At
this point, the Wolverines were going to miss out on
(11:13):
probably about twenty million dollars or more because of punishments
where they have to forfeit postseason revenue. There's been documentaries
made about the cheating scandal. They're the butt of plenty
of jokes. Is it costly enough now that I think
they're putting a bow on all this that other people
(11:35):
will say, Ah, man, I don't know, I don't know
if we want to cheat or is this just like, hey,
you got to be better at beating the system than
they were.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I think that's a great way to phrase the question.
I see, Like, I think it almost like ultimately what
it says is like the the enscablas over here, like, hey,
look at us, we still matter. Hey remember us, We're
still relevant. Look at us, like what we could do?
Look at this boom bow tough penalty we levied on Michigan.
How good are we? Yeah, I mean I think I mean, no,
(12:05):
it doesn't you know, No, the punishment here does not
fit the crime if the crime is cheating. And I'm
not even sure we know what the crime is yet, right,
like it it's sort of like, well, here's the punishment.
What they do? I don't know, they kind of got caught,
I mean, you know what they did. It's like, but
but why are you punishing them? Right, so they cheat
or not? Because I remember there being a conversation whether
or not they were just kind of you know, getting
(12:26):
ahead and exploiting the gray areas or if they actually cheated,
Because if they did, then the punishment it doesn't get
close to sit in the crime. And yeah, I mean
it incentivizes them to do so. And yeah, if you're
Michigan or House Date or Georgia or Texas or you know,
I mean, you're Alabama. You're too big to fail. So
there's no way the NCAA or the College Football Playoff
(12:47):
it's going to bite off its nose despite its face.
You know, you're not going to say, Michigan, you can't
be in the playoffs the next five years. I mean,
you're not gonna at the cash cow for you. It's
one of the major cash CAUs for you. So yeah,
I mean it's a joke. We're not even sure at
this point what they're actually being punished for, because it's
all just innuendo and like, I guess what we thought
(13:07):
it was, but it's not right. It's like such a weird,
bizarre thing. And again it's still the nc double A.
Like here we are three years later, after the dust
has settled, all the jokes and memes have been gone,
and already you know, pulled that, Like they couldn't do
anything quicker than this. I mean, this is this is
the whole reason the NCAA has failed, The reason the
NAA is in the spot that it's in, and it's irrelevant.
(13:30):
The nsable A is is wildly irrelevant and the only
way it keeps his relevance is by doing this slap
on the wrist, and you know, by Charlie Baker going
in appearing on different talk shows to talk about how
relevant the N douablea.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Is well articulated and incredibly frustrating. Ari, appreciate your time.
Next week we'll actually have it's a game week, we'll
actually have a matchup in the details of that matchup
to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Can't wait. Appreciate your brother, Take care, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Ari Tempkin at Ari Sports on Twitter, Big twelve Radio
over on tune in, check 'em out,
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