October 6, 2025 • 14 mins
The former Atlanta Braves great on MLB in Utah possibly 3-5 years away, MLB Playoffs, Can you trust the Yankees to win when it matters most (?)
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You were listening to the Sean O'Connell show. It's your
source for the best utes football copyache. Here's OC from
the Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred ninety two
to one a half.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Ant John check it in on a little baseball with
the playoffs in full swing, Tigers, Mariners, Yankees, Blue Jays, Dodgers, Phillies, Cubs, Brewers.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I don't know if we'll have time.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We'll try to get to all of it with Dale Murphy,
the legend who joins us now on the Sean O'Connell Show.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Dale, thanks for giving us some time. How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Great? Great, doing great? Watching some fun base postseason baseball.
Thanks for having me on Sean. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I always appreciate you giving us some time before we
get into what's going on with these Major League Baseball playoffs?
What do we know what's going on behind the scenes
with the Big League Utah with the eventual and hopeful
idea that we will be a major league city ourselves
here in Salt.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Lake, you know, working every day. Not I'm not working
every day on it, but Steve Starks and the gang
at Big League Utah are working every day, establishing relationships,
actually traveling. I know Steve's been traveling, you know, established
Like I say, I know, he's in New York, going
(01:25):
the games there and meeting everybody, just you know, laying
out our case for what we can offer here Major
League Baseball. Obviously it's gonna take the time frame and
no one really knows, but we do know there's a
CBA coming up, and I'm sure expansion needs to be
(01:46):
approved obviously by everybody, and that comes up after next year,
and just like I say, just continuing to develop relationships
and letting everybody know what what we have here, which
personally I think is really good. And I think what
(02:06):
I hear from traveling around the country talking to people,
you know, we're optimistic and other people will say, you know,
you've got some good things going there, and you know,
just positive vibes. Really, you know, I'm obviously not in
touch with the Commissioner's office and not getting down in
(02:29):
front of what he's doing and what's going on, but
just talking to people in the game and around the country,
you know, everybody really likes what we have here.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
How does the impending CBA situation affect a timeline if.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
At all, how will it affect it?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I mean will it I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, it's right right, Well, I you know, it remains
to be seen. But the CBA's up after next year,
and so I'm imagining, you know, after next year they
start negotiating, vote on you know, players and owners vote
on expansion. And so I think last year people are
(03:10):
saying three to five years. You know, it's not nothing
set in stone obviously until just you know, no approvals
have been made to even expand yet, but the Commissioner
has made many statements that he'd like to everybody I
think would like to get to thirty two teams, and
(03:32):
so you know, it's just a big operation. It's like
an Olympic bid. You know, you have to have a group,
you got to have the money, you got to have
the organization, just everything. And so people throughout cities and
I mean, like Charlotte is great place and I've been
to their TRIAA ballpark there. They have a great location
(03:54):
for that and it's a great market. But as I understand,
there's no registered group trying to get a team. So
you know there's there are people throw these cities out.
But what we have here in Portland and Nashville, and
as far as I'm aware, I don't know of other
cities that are as you know, organized and have registered
(04:18):
with Major League Baseball that that we're pursuing it. So,
you know, so the time frame just we don't really
know what all the cities that are involved. Those are
the you know, we're part of the Big Three, I guess,
but you know, you don't know exactly what's gonna happen.
But the timeframe out here is always three to five years.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
All right, let's get to some some playoff baseball. Are
you are you surprised by anything you've seen so far?
Now that we've advanced to the divisional series and you
know you've got there's a hulla baloo over Toronto smashing
New York last over the weekend. But are you really
have you been surprised by anything you've seen so far?
Not really?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
You know, it's it's been good bag. You know. I
know the Yankees went to the World Series last year,
but I never pick him in the uh in the
last You know, I love Aaron Judge, but him and
you young Carlos Stanton to me, just can be pitched
too and they strike out so much. I I just
(05:21):
they did get to the World Series last year, you know,
so they made it that far. But I have I
have not liked them the last ten years, just because
they strike out so much in postseason. So and the
Blue Jays are on fire, you know. I I think
I think New York will win a game. I mean,
it could go five. I think the Dodgers could go
(05:43):
five too, But I like I like them a lot,
but I think Phillies will give them, you know, a
few headaches. The Dodgers of the last month they're pitching
has really settled in. I think they got a great team,
you know, I love uh. I love what Milwaukee's do
doing as well. They tend to play kind of small
(06:04):
ball a little bit. They don't strike out that much.
They got really good pitching. But I think that's gonna
go five. Uh So, you know, we'll see, uh But
I love what I'm what I'm seeing so far. I
like Seattle, although Detroit got some really good pigeon over
They got to scuba you know, yesterday, So you know
(06:25):
it's man, it's it's gonna be tough to pick. But
if I were to pick right now, I'd go Dodgers
and Blue Jay's I think, what do you think of
Cal Rowley?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm always partial to catch us because that's what I
grew up playing.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
For sure, he just he does it all.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
He's for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Record setter, record tire, record setter this year. And you know,
he's twenty eight years old and has really come into
a place now where I think a lot more is
expected from you. When you have a season like this
and you've been part of the headlines all season long,
you know, what is that like to try to then
deliver playoff wins. It's great to have all the personal accolades,
(07:03):
but now you're trying to carry your team through a postseason.
What's it what's it like for Cal Rawly right now?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Uh? Well, I think he's gonna be the m v
p uh. You know, people talk about Aaron Judges, great
year he had, but we've got a guy that had
a great year. Andy's a catcher, you know, very demanding,
much more demanding than the outfield. So whenever you have
comparable situations offensively, I always look at the position. If
(07:30):
it's an outfielder and you've got a comparable guy at shortstop,
I'm going with the shortstop. What Cal Rawley's done is
you know, is incredible, especially being behind the plate so much.
So I I love what he's doing. I think, uh,
I think they got a good thing going there. I mean,
I I think they're you know, I think they'll beat Detroit.
(07:53):
But it's it's uh, you know, but I just you know,
it's hard to it's hard to figure it out. But
you know, I think Cal Rawly he's just you know,
found himself. And he said an MVP season, so you know,
I think he's just enjoying this. Yeah, you're you're right,
you can put some numbers together, but playoff baseball is
completely you know, it's a new season. That's why I
(08:15):
like Milwaukee. I just think they play a little bit
more small ball than anybody else. I think, uh, you
know a lot the Dodgers are capable of doing that.
Uh so I you know, I think it's going to
be a great National League. Uh you know, finish here.
But you know, uh, but you know, I love Cal Rawley.
I think it's been fun. You know, I caught a
(08:36):
little bit, you know, growing up and getting into the
big leagues, caught a little bit and uh, you know,
there's obviously no more demanding positions. So what he's done
offensively and defensively as well, because your head is so
much in the call in the game, and then he's
just a tremendous switch hitter or too so. Uh, it's
it's been an incredible MVP season for cal Rawly. Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
What are the Braids going to do with the manager position?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Good? You know, some some interesting names have popped up
online and and uh, I think one of the most
interesting to there's two, well, there's three I think of
is David Ross. I think Walt Wise will interview. I
hope Eddie Perez interviews as well with the Braves. Walt
(09:21):
wis Eddie Perez with the Braves. Uh, David Ross caught
there and managed to comes for a while. But this
UH head coach for the University of Tennessee's name is
getting thrown out there. And I think that'd be incredible
at first, that I'm aware of someone going from college
to UH to the big leagues, and I think it's
by Tello. I'm I'm sorry, I don't have his name
(09:44):
right in front of me, but he's got some really
good things going to the University of Tennessee and that
that could be kind of intriguing. He might interview. We'll
see what happens. Chipper. Chipper is not going to do it,
he said, I don't want to do it. But he'll
be a hitting he said, I'll be a hitting coach,
which which is a happy medium if if they want
to hire him as a hitting coach, which would be
(10:05):
a good move. But uh, you know, we'll see. It's
going to be interesting without Brian Snitker. I was happy
for Brian. You know, we we go back to the
early eighties, so I know I've known Stid for a
long time. Happy to see him have such great success,
win a World Series, and now will be you know,
a consultant with the Braves for you know, for many
(10:25):
years to come.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
How does it work in a clubhouse when you know
you're you're an established player on the team, or you're
somebody who's you know, respected by the front office as
a player, and you know they're now searching for a
manager and you you mentioned Tony Vattello, the University of
Tennessee coach, and now you've got you know, this this
(10:48):
outsider who could potentially be brought in. I mean, how
does it work is that somebody would who would be
embraced by a clubhouse. Baseball is more than any other sport,
full of all these unwritten rules and all these like, yeah,
kind of cultural quirks that even fans have a hard
time keeping up with. So that would that be something
(11:08):
that you know, baseball would be excited about, or would
the clubhouse be like, Oh, this guy doesn't know what
it's like to be in the majors. I don't know
his resume, I don't know if he spend time in
the majors before at all as a player or a
prospect or anything.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So how would that work?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
That's a great question, And I think that's I think
that's probably why it's never happened before, because obviously, for
obvious reasons, you tend to go with someone who's connected
in some way. So I think he's a long shot.
I think it's just very interesting, but it would be
fascinating to watch. But once it happens, you know, it
(11:45):
just well, you know, I don't know, it's never happened
before that I know, but I think the guys are
you know, professional enough to understand that no one's going
to get hired without you know, a lot of interviews
and you know, alex Anthopolis is not going to hire
(12:05):
someone without talking to a lot of people about this
person that he's getting ready to hire. And then during
the interview process, they would ask the Tello who you're
going to get on your staff? You know? What are you?
Who you're going to bring along with you? You know
because and I'll tell you the vital thing here why
(12:25):
I obviously think he's a long shot. I don't know
his connection to alex Anthopolis the general manager and the
manager in baseball, any sport, but especially baseball. And I
can bring up two examples Joe Torre and Cashman as
the GM with the Yankees. They were a great team.
You have to have a great team as general manager
(12:47):
and manager Bobby Cox and John Shurls, and we can
find some other ones, but those are the ones I
point to as being a great general manager manager. So
you've got to have a connection with the general manager.
You've got to be in lockstep with each other division.
Who you're going to call up, who you're going to
trade for, what free agents you're going to sign. So
(13:10):
you know, I would consider Vottello a long shot. I
don't know his connection other than he's been a very
successful college coach. So I think it's just fun to
talk about and it's an interesting name. But you know,
the critical connection of success for an organization is that
(13:31):
general manager manager talking together and working together really well.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, we'll see how it plays out, and we'll see
how these playoff series play out. And of course, anytime
you get an update on what's going on with Big
League Utah, let us know. I absolutely can't tell you
how much we appreciate you giving us some time. Hope
you and the whole family are doing really well.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Great, Thank you, Sean, Thank you so much. And it'll
be interesting if the Dodgers repeat. We haven't had anybody
repeat in twenty five years. Oh, that's gonna be tough.
But I like the way they're looking.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I kind of hope it doesn't happen, just because you know,
they're the they're the big money jugger not and I
can't I can't get behind that.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah, that's an understatement, big money.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Thanks Ham.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
All right, thanks, let's see bye bye.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Dale Murphy baseball legend here in the state of Utah obviously,
and uh really all around the world.
You were listening to the Sean O'Connell show. It's your
source for the best utes football copyache. Here's OC from
the Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred ninety two
to one a half.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Ant John check it in on a little baseball with
the playoffs in full swing, Tigers, Mariners, Yankees, Blue Jays, Dodgers, Phillies, Cubs, Brewers.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I don't know if we'll have time.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We'll try to get to all of it with Dale Murphy,
the legend who joins us now on the Sean O'Connell Show.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Dale, thanks for giving us some time. How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Great? Great, doing great? Watching some fun base postseason baseball.
Thanks for having me on Sean. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I always appreciate you giving us some time before we
get into what's going on with these Major League Baseball playoffs?
What do we know what's going on behind the scenes
with the Big League Utah with the eventual and hopeful
idea that we will be a major league city ourselves
here in Salt.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Lake, you know, working every day. Not I'm not working
every day on it, but Steve Starks and the gang
at Big League Utah are working every day, establishing relationships,
actually traveling. I know Steve's been traveling, you know, established
Like I say, I know, he's in New York, going
(01:25):
the games there and meeting everybody, just you know, laying
out our case for what we can offer here Major
League Baseball. Obviously it's gonna take the time frame and
no one really knows, but we do know there's a
CBA coming up, and I'm sure expansion needs to be
(01:46):
approved obviously by everybody, and that comes up after next year,
and just like I say, just continuing to develop relationships
and letting everybody know what what we have here, which
personally I think is really good. And I think what
(02:06):
I hear from traveling around the country talking to people,
you know, we're optimistic and other people will say, you know,
you've got some good things going there, and you know,
just positive vibes. Really, you know, I'm obviously not in
touch with the Commissioner's office and not getting down in
(02:29):
front of what he's doing and what's going on, but
just talking to people in the game and around the country,
you know, everybody really likes what we have here.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
How does the impending CBA situation affect a timeline if.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
At all, how will it affect it?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I mean will it I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, it's right right, Well, I you know, it remains
to be seen. But the CBA's up after next year,
and so I'm imagining, you know, after next year they
start negotiating, vote on you know, players and owners vote
on expansion. And so I think last year people are
(03:10):
saying three to five years. You know, it's not nothing
set in stone obviously until just you know, no approvals
have been made to even expand yet, but the Commissioner
has made many statements that he'd like to everybody I
think would like to get to thirty two teams, and
(03:32):
so you know, it's just a big operation. It's like
an Olympic bid. You know, you have to have a group,
you got to have the money, you got to have
the organization, just everything. And so people throughout cities and
I mean, like Charlotte is great place and I've been
to their TRIAA ballpark there. They have a great location
(03:54):
for that and it's a great market. But as I understand,
there's no registered group trying to get a team. So
you know there's there are people throw these cities out.
But what we have here in Portland and Nashville, and
as far as I'm aware, I don't know of other
cities that are as you know, organized and have registered
(04:18):
with Major League Baseball that that we're pursuing it. So,
you know, so the time frame just we don't really
know what all the cities that are involved. Those are
the you know, we're part of the Big Three, I guess,
but you know, you don't know exactly what's gonna happen.
But the timeframe out here is always three to five years.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
All right, let's get to some some playoff baseball. Are
you are you surprised by anything you've seen so far?
Now that we've advanced to the divisional series and you
know you've got there's a hulla baloo over Toronto smashing
New York last over the weekend. But are you really
have you been surprised by anything you've seen so far?
Not really?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
You know, it's it's been good bag. You know. I
know the Yankees went to the World Series last year,
but I never pick him in the uh in the
last You know, I love Aaron Judge, but him and
you young Carlos Stanton to me, just can be pitched
too and they strike out so much. I I just
(05:21):
they did get to the World Series last year, you know,
so they made it that far. But I have I
have not liked them the last ten years, just because
they strike out so much in postseason. So and the
Blue Jays are on fire, you know. I I think
I think New York will win a game. I mean,
it could go five. I think the Dodgers could go
(05:43):
five too, But I like I like them a lot,
but I think Phillies will give them, you know, a
few headaches. The Dodgers of the last month they're pitching
has really settled in. I think they got a great team,
you know, I love uh. I love what Milwaukee's do
doing as well. They tend to play kind of small
(06:04):
ball a little bit. They don't strike out that much.
They got really good pitching. But I think that's gonna
go five. Uh So, you know, we'll see, uh But
I love what I'm what I'm seeing so far. I
like Seattle, although Detroit got some really good pigeon over
They got to scuba you know, yesterday, So you know
(06:25):
it's man, it's it's gonna be tough to pick. But
if I were to pick right now, I'd go Dodgers
and Blue Jay's I think, what do you think of
Cal Rowley?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm always partial to catch us because that's what I
grew up playing.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
For sure, he just he does it all.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
He's for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Record setter, record tire, record setter this year. And you know,
he's twenty eight years old and has really come into
a place now where I think a lot more is
expected from you. When you have a season like this
and you've been part of the headlines all season long,
you know, what is that like to try to then
deliver playoff wins. It's great to have all the personal accolades,
(07:03):
but now you're trying to carry your team through a postseason.
What's it what's it like for Cal Rawly right now?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Uh? Well, I think he's gonna be the m v
p uh. You know, people talk about Aaron Judges, great
year he had, but we've got a guy that had
a great year. Andy's a catcher, you know, very demanding,
much more demanding than the outfield. So whenever you have
comparable situations offensively, I always look at the position. If
(07:30):
it's an outfielder and you've got a comparable guy at shortstop,
I'm going with the shortstop. What Cal Rawley's done is
you know, is incredible, especially being behind the plate so much.
So I I love what he's doing. I think, uh,
I think they got a good thing going there. I mean,
I I think they're you know, I think they'll beat Detroit.
(07:53):
But it's it's uh, you know, but I just you know,
it's hard to it's hard to figure it out. But
you know, I think Cal Rawly he's just you know,
found himself. And he said an MVP season, so you know,
I think he's just enjoying this. Yeah, you're you're right,
you can put some numbers together, but playoff baseball is
completely you know, it's a new season. That's why I
(08:15):
like Milwaukee. I just think they play a little bit
more small ball than anybody else. I think, uh, you
know a lot the Dodgers are capable of doing that.
Uh so I you know, I think it's going to
be a great National League. Uh you know, finish here.
But you know, uh, but you know, I love Cal Rawley.
I think it's been fun. You know, I caught a
(08:36):
little bit, you know, growing up and getting into the
big leagues, caught a little bit and uh, you know,
there's obviously no more demanding positions. So what he's done
offensively and defensively as well, because your head is so
much in the call in the game, and then he's
just a tremendous switch hitter or too so. Uh, it's
it's been an incredible MVP season for cal Rawly. Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
What are the Braids going to do with the manager position?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Good? You know, some some interesting names have popped up
online and and uh, I think one of the most
interesting to there's two, well, there's three I think of
is David Ross. I think Walt Wise will interview. I
hope Eddie Perez interviews as well with the Braves. Walt
(09:21):
wis Eddie Perez with the Braves. Uh, David Ross caught
there and managed to comes for a while. But this
UH head coach for the University of Tennessee's name is
getting thrown out there. And I think that'd be incredible
at first, that I'm aware of someone going from college
to UH to the big leagues, and I think it's
by Tello. I'm I'm sorry, I don't have his name
(09:44):
right in front of me, but he's got some really
good things going to the University of Tennessee and that
that could be kind of intriguing. He might interview. We'll
see what happens. Chipper. Chipper is not going to do it,
he said, I don't want to do it. But he'll
be a hitting he said, I'll be a hitting coach,
which which is a happy medium if if they want
to hire him as a hitting coach, which would be
(10:05):
a good move. But uh, you know, we'll see. It's
going to be interesting without Brian Snitker. I was happy
for Brian. You know, we we go back to the
early eighties, so I know I've known Stid for a
long time. Happy to see him have such great success,
win a World Series, and now will be you know,
a consultant with the Braves for you know, for many
(10:25):
years to come.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
How does it work in a clubhouse when you know
you're you're an established player on the team, or you're
somebody who's you know, respected by the front office as
a player, and you know they're now searching for a
manager and you you mentioned Tony Vattello, the University of
Tennessee coach, and now you've got you know, this this
(10:48):
outsider who could potentially be brought in. I mean, how
does it work is that somebody would who would be
embraced by a clubhouse. Baseball is more than any other sport,
full of all these unwritten rules and all these like, yeah,
kind of cultural quirks that even fans have a hard
time keeping up with. So that would that be something
(11:08):
that you know, baseball would be excited about, or would
the clubhouse be like, Oh, this guy doesn't know what
it's like to be in the majors. I don't know
his resume, I don't know if he spend time in
the majors before at all as a player or a
prospect or anything.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So how would that work?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
That's a great question, And I think that's I think
that's probably why it's never happened before, because obviously, for
obvious reasons, you tend to go with someone who's connected
in some way. So I think he's a long shot.
I think it's just very interesting, but it would be
fascinating to watch. But once it happens, you know, it
(11:45):
just well, you know, I don't know, it's never happened
before that I know, but I think the guys are
you know, professional enough to understand that no one's going
to get hired without you know, a lot of interviews
and you know, alex Anthopolis is not going to hire
(12:05):
someone without talking to a lot of people about this
person that he's getting ready to hire. And then during
the interview process, they would ask the Tello who you're
going to get on your staff? You know? What are you?
Who you're going to bring along with you? You know
because and I'll tell you the vital thing here why
(12:25):
I obviously think he's a long shot. I don't know
his connection to alex Anthopolis the general manager and the
manager in baseball, any sport, but especially baseball. And I
can bring up two examples Joe Torre and Cashman as
the GM with the Yankees. They were a great team.
You have to have a great team as general manager
(12:47):
and manager Bobby Cox and John Shurls, and we can
find some other ones, but those are the ones I
point to as being a great general manager manager. So
you've got to have a connection with the general manager.
You've got to be in lockstep with each other division.
Who you're going to call up, who you're going to
trade for, what free agents you're going to sign. So
(13:10):
you know, I would consider Vottello a long shot. I
don't know his connection other than he's been a very
successful college coach. So I think it's just fun to
talk about and it's an interesting name. But you know,
the critical connection of success for an organization is that
(13:31):
general manager manager talking together and working together really well.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, we'll see how it plays out, and we'll see
how these playoff series play out. And of course, anytime
you get an update on what's going on with Big
League Utah, let us know. I absolutely can't tell you
how much we appreciate you giving us some time. Hope
you and the whole family are doing really well.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Great, Thank you, Sean, Thank you so much. And it'll
be interesting if the Dodgers repeat. We haven't had anybody
repeat in twenty five years. Oh, that's gonna be tough.
But I like the way they're looking.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I kind of hope it doesn't happen, just because you know,
they're the they're the big money jugger not and I
can't I can't get behind that.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah, that's an understatement, big money.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Thanks Ham.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
All right, thanks, let's see bye bye.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Dale Murphy baseball legend here in the state of Utah obviously,
and uh really all around the world.
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