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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you were listening to the Shawan O'Connell show your
source for the best huge football copy, here's oc from
the Murdoch Hundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred dead ninety
two one half an.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome in, Jeff Schwartz.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's been way too long since we caught up with
our guy, a longtime NFL veteran former Oregon duck. We
forgive him for that, though, now that Utah and Oregon
are no longer in the same conference.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
A football insider, Jeff Schwartz, how are you.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I'm good. I missed you, but I will actually see
you next week. Maybe I haven't decided if I'm gonna
go at all to the fights, but I will. I
will see you on Thursday, and looking forward to it.
I know the kids are as well. I told them that. Asked,
they said, Shawn, who I said, exactly exactly, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
We did radio together for six years. Anyway, Yeah, looking
forward to that. I most look forward to you, you know,
making dinner, doing whatever the plan is on Thursday night,
and then like five minutes before I'm supposed to show up,
texting you Hey, not gonna be able to make it.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
That's good. I mean it's possible. Actually have we have
a back to school thing that night too, And I
was like, Marathon, I'm leaving early. Be Cashan's coming over.
So it's a great excuse to leave an event. I
don't want to go to early. Perfect, glaud you're in town.
Love it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
PFL is in Charlotte where Jeff lives. Next week, gonna
be awesome. Three title fights that Jeff may Or may
not decide to grace us with his.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Presence Friday night. Why not? All right? How long is like?
What's the give me like the sketch? Like, what's like
if you cool?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
People like you are not? They typically don't show up
for the preliminary fights. They don't go to the early card.
If you come to the early card, it's like six
seven hours of fights. If you just go to the
main card, it's two and a half three hours. What
time is the card?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think it's gonna be in nine eastern?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Oh boy, yeah, feeling, I'm a going to make nine eastern.
Make it work. Oh you're the worst. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I brought you on today not to talk about PFL
fights that you probably won't end up attending, but to
talk about the upcoming college football season. The coaches Poll,
the preseason coaches poll came out, and you know, Big
twelve seas their highest ranked team Arizona State at number eleven,
and then it's teams down in the twenties after that.
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Utah not in that mix right now, according to the coaches,
your Oregon Ducks are highly thought of heading into the air.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, well let's start there.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
What did you think of Oregon's placement in a lot
of these preseason conversations?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
What's about? Right? I don't get people that don't want
the polls like this is great for business. It is
awesome to talk through these things every year. I don't
understand people. It doesn't r any if you win all
your games, yes, what, you'd be runing pretty high. That's
that's the way the system works. And so I love
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these polls. I love to see where people think teams
are supposed to be at. I think Organs just about
where they're supposed to be. I then there's some skepticism
with some of the younger players that are gonna have
to play this year. Right, We're new at a lot of positions.
There are a lot of portal players. I think that's fine.
I like where we went with the portal, but I
understand there's some skepticism when it comes to to where
to put some of these Organ players and and uh,
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you know, new newish quarterback right, and new offense alignment
and new wide receivers and young on the defensive line,
young linebackers. I get a little bit of that, and uh,
Organ's gonna have to look Week five, Penn State, we
go to Happy Valley. I mean, that'll be a good
test immediately to see how good we are.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Are you a believer in Penn State? This is the
most hyped we've seen Penn State in a preseason that
I can remember. And I'm just not a disciple of
the James Franklin hype trading. Where do you stand on
Penn State being able to follow through with some of
this optimism?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So I think there's a difference between like what they
might do in conference and what they might do in
in in the championship realm. Like I for me, I
think they're a great bet to win the conference. Right
what what James Franklin does every year? He beats the
teams he should, Which is which is important. Look at
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their schedule. That's ten. That's ten of the games they're playing.
Ten of the games are playing the other one. You know,
Oregon at home like they should. I would imagine play
pretty well against Oregon at home. They go to Ohio State.
That'll be tough. Gampit. Ohio State, just like a lot
of teams, sort of has to replace a lot. So
I'm curious what what Ohio State is is going to
be this year. The question is do I believe them
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to win the championship? Right, which is what aspirations they have,
And the answer is no, I don't because they have
to do it before I believe it. Right. They're again
the issue with them is they just don't win that
big one, and that big one does include winning the championship,
and I need to see it happen before I back
Penn State. Are they talented enough to do it? Yes?
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Their offensive line is good, like like good good team right,
good offense, a lot of good running backs, good quarterback.
They replaced guys on defense. But I like the gym
knowles higher like there's a legitimate reason to be excited
for this team, But they haven't won the big one, right,
And that's what concerns me about backing the change. And
to be fair, I think every team this year has
a lot of questions. I think it's not just a
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Penn State thing. I think a lot of teams you're
looking at and like, oh, you know what, there's there's
this issue I have, There's that issue I have. Can
they do it? Yes, if it all breaks right, if
all everything works out. Well, So it's not just a
Penn State thing. A lot of teams feel like that
right now. I don't if you guys right now who
was a championship, don't if I have a great answer for.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
You, Well, I don't think we have great answers for
those things. My predictive powers have never been great. And
last year was the ultimate like you don't know what
you're talking about kind.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Of Well, the Big Twelve is hard for everyone. I
think if you're judging yourself on the Big Twelve, and
it's probably not fair because that was a you know,
everyone sort of was in the same boat. I mean,
the Big Twelve last year was so all over the place.
No one predicted that. I think it's okay to give
yourself a pass on on the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Transfers are a big story in college football right now,
transferring and being expected to you know, I don't know,
resurrect a program like Devin dan pier is being expected
to at the University of Utah or to bring Oklahoma
back to glory, as John Mattiers being expected to do. Yeah,
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we we just we kind of just paint those with
the same brush, like, yeah, yeah, you're you transfer, you
start playing in a new place. These guys have an
unbelievable amount of pressure on them. Where do you stand
on the ability for young players to meet expectations that outsized?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well, look, it's it's very hard. But the thing that
I think you know you have going for these young
young players is some of them have done it before.
First of all, right, they've grown up in this must
win now culture a little bit, right, Sean Like they
sort of they sort of get that vibe early on
because of the sports they play. But also, you know,
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the the difference with some of these ones you mentioned
is the offensive coordinator also went with them, right, So
you know you're Dan Pierre has coordinator go with him.
John Mattiers coordinator went with him. Uh, those are those
are important for success to have those guys with you.
If it's just the If it's just the player, I
think it's it's much tougher transition. But you include the
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coach in that, and you should at least be very
comfortable with the offense, which obviously is important for success.
So like, there's a lot of things I think that
you can take and be excited for because they came
as a pair.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Is Texas Tech going to be this year's Texas A
and M Where the big headline is just like, oh man,
look how much money they spent on their roster, the
transfer portal, they're getting all these big time guys. They
had the best answer portal class in the country according
to some metrics, and you know their Texas Tech they haven't.
There's no proven recent track record of excelling at the
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most important level, the conference championship level. How are we
going to be talking about the Red Raiders halfway through
it at the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I would lean toward not living up to the hype.
That's just it's typically one year to sort of get
in in, one year to sort of then you become
sort of the staple of what people will expect from you.
It just feels like they're just not there right now.
I get the hype. They've rebuilt some of the roster. Look,
I'm always skeptical, skeptical about like being really good out
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a much a portal player. I think it's really hard
to do. I think we look at it, I think
it's easy to do. It's hard and to adapt all
those players immediately is really tough work. Show and everyone
things are going to do it easily, which I think
is sort of the issue for me. Like everyone's like, yeah,
it's going to be easy. I'm like, I don't. I
don't know if it's gonna be easy. So I would
lean toward I think probably not as high, not as
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good as the hype makes it out to be.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Jeff Schwartz my guest here on the Sean O'Connell scho
talk at all things college football, and now we get
to the part that I really wanted to pick your
brain about. Utah football is expected to have the best
offensive line Kyle Whittingham has ever had his twenty one
year tenure. They're talked about as having one of the
best offensive lines in the country. You are one of
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the thought makers, You are one of the shapers of
that conversation as a part of the Joe Moore Committee,
what do you think of this Utah offensive line as
a whole?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
First, and then we'll get to the pieces.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I think it's really good when you have the tackles
that you have and then just add in the other players.
Starting with that base, it's always a good place to
be and it's very clear that the tackles are elite
level players, and then you can sort of basically build
your offense on around those guys, which I think they've done.
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It's a lot of veterans. I mean, look at the
depth chart right now, senior senior or senior inside. I
mean having those you know, the veteran leadership there is good.
I think it's a really good offensive line. And that
also like for the you know, for the for the
for the dam Pierre discussion, you know, having a group
like that around him early in his you know, early
in his tenure at Utah, well, I think take a
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lot of pressure off him because he won't have to
do it all right. They'll let the offensive line be
the offense early in the season, and that will lead,
I think to his lot of success. It it the
offensive line is the heartbeat of a team, and if
your offensive line is good, it's very rare to find
a bad team, if that makes sense, right John, Like
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just hard to find that. And I think the offensive
line in Utah is one of the best in the
country right now. I don't know if people realize that.
I've watched them enough because I was to pick in
the tackles to to understand that, and they're gonna be Look,
I Utah to win the Big twelve. I put them
in a playoff thing, like, I think that Utah can
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be good this year if the offense line place of
their success, if if Dan Pierre can you know, play
in a more hopefully open Utah offense. A question always
becomes as we know, is you know, is the wide
receivers you know, can they do their part for Utah.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I've been sitting over unders on some of what I
think are important numbers for Utah, and today's number was
two nine and ninety nine point five yards passing for
this Utah offense, which you know, in conference championship contention
years going back to the PAC twelve, they were three thousand,
thirty one hundred thirty two to fifty that kind of thing.
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It's never going to be a four thousand yard offense.
It's just not the way that Kyle Whittingham teams do things.
And twenty last year, New Mexico's offense was basically twenty
seven to sixty and Utah's offense was like twenty three.
So would you take the over under projecting Devin Dampier
this offensive line question mark, Like you said, at the
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wide receiver spot, obviously better competition, et cetera, you go
over under on just you know, the three thousand yard mark.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Basically, I would probably lean under just because of what
they're I think gonna want to be this year. If
they have to throw the ball that much, it's probably
not great, right, But again, I mean I think that look,
I think you would love if you threw for three
thousand yards. I think that would be great. But I
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just don't know that offense is gonna be that way, right,
And so I just don't know. That's what New Mexico.
They ran the ball a ton. Your offensive line, you
lean on those guys. You know, maybe there's a big
play potential from you know, from this group where you
know the yards are very chunk yardage. But the schedule, look,
I mean you have to throw the ball a little
bit in this with the schedule, though, I'll tell you
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that you got an easy schedule.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
All right, Let's get back to this offensive line, because
you know, I love to pick your brain about O
line play, especially We'll start with Spencer Fano.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
He's considered, correct me.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
If I'm wrong, one of the best run blocking tackles
or maybe the best run blocking tackle in the whole country.
And in this upcoming draft cycle, what does he need
to improve in his past sets from the film you've
been watching.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
So this is a really fun discussion to have because
this is a problem that I think is the entire
college football landscape. When you do that offensive lineman sean,
they just don't have a ton of reps at true
pass protection. Like there's just not a lot of opportunities
in a game where you are dropped back passing on
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third and eight and you have a pass rusher in
front of you that can actually rush the passer and
it mimix what you would do in the NFL. I
think that's wherein does there's not a lot of reps
of that, right, and so if you know a lot
of reps that it's hard to be good at it
without the reps, right, I think that that that's what
he just needs more reps to sink up his hands
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and his feet and be able to do that. I
think that we don't prioritize pass protection enough and we
vuyed offensive linemen. It's really hard to do, and so
I think that's where just more reps, more working the technique.
And then again it's it's hard because you're not getting
a ton of chances. I mean you look at you
look early on like you know you're not gonna you know,
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cal Pauly, you get zero chances for that U c
l A right now. I know it's week one. I
like you ta a lot in that game. The Bruins
have to replace a lot. Forty two guys leave their
their program, and I like Deshaun Foster is on the
right path. But early season you're at Wyoming and how
much you were going to have to pass protecting that game,
and that that to me, is it right? It's just
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you just need he needs more reps to refine his technique.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Right on the other side, left tackles you. Actually, I
think we're the first one who said anything even resembling
this when we had a conversation. I don't know if
it was Bowl season last year, but you know that
Lomu actually might be a guy that projects as high
or even higher in the NFL because of the more
natural past set, because that is the skill that is
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prioritized at the NFL level. Kind of to the point
that you were just making but you know, you get
both of them. He got both, And Lomo has been
a guy who's been certainly stepped into the spotlight a
little bit more this season this offseason, I should say
he's been more vocal, and you know, he checks every
box that us you know, mere mortals can see what
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about you with the offensive line lenses on.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, So I think that relative and it's interesting. So
I think for No is overhyped. That makes sense. I
don't think he's I don't think he's any worse than
people say he is, but I think that he is
getting I think he's a little overhyped. I think Lomo's
under hyped. Like I when I watch him play, I'm like, oh, yeah,
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like that's what would your like, that's what left tackles
in the NFL. Like it just it looks like it should.
I think I even just text you that I don't
even know if we talked about on the air. I
think when the season is done, Lomo is going higher
in the draft. I just his size, his movement, skills,
his past protection. You can always sort of teach someone
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to run block better technique wise, get more power. You
can train that you can't sometimes train being a smooth
past protector. And that is really where I see the
big difference in that. So I'm excited to watch him
play this year and just see how much better he
can get in he can He's a legit passpector, like
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a like a first round top type of tackle pass protector.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Is there any potential downside to having, you know, a
line like this one that has played so many reps together.
If you know, someone gets banged up and then trying
to plug someone in there, is it like now that
guy's a fish out of water because he doesn't have
like the verbal and nonverbal chemistry that some of these
other guys have. I mean, is there is there any
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way that this becomes an issue for Utah aside from like, yeah, no,
this is a great thing to have this offensive line.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You mean, it's bad if someone gets hurt and the
line is or in the shuffle guys around, like what
do you.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, I guess I'm just trying, like, because we're so
high on this offensive line that I'm worried we're getting
unrealistic about what it means for the offense.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
So yeah, I mean, yeah, I think it's it's fair
to feel that that hype early on right now, and
I think you should have eye expectations. But look, injuries,
they hurt everyone. It's not just you know, so if
guys get hurt, then it's not gonna be what you
want it to be. But that's where you hope that
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the Jim Harding has had those backups ready to go,
And this is why you hope and early in the
season you get the backups in for a couple of
plays or two, a couple of drivers to at the
end of games get them season ready to go. And
if you lose one guy, you should be able to
be okay enough you can scheme up some help. You
lose a couple guys, you kind of get into problems there.
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But I think that if this line stays healthy, the
offense should be able to do what they want to
do to most opponents.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I don't know how much. You know, individual tape you've
been able to watch yet. But there's other guys, right,
Lomo and Fano are on the Outland Trophy watch list.
There's a bunch of guys on that list, and you know,
you look at the other preseason kind of Hey, look
for this dude, Isaiah World the transfer to Oregon is
a name that you see all the time. Jordan Seaton,
who's at Colorado and who's good? Like your thoughts on
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some of those guys.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, I thought you were gonna mention that Utah Center.
I've not watched the Utah's in tear off its Lineberry,
which is on the Remington Award watch list, because the
Remington Award is the one for the centers, right, they
have like one hundred and ten centers in the in
the preseason watch list, and I've always don't imagine being
like one hundred and eleventh center.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, it's every returning starter.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
We've talked about it for a year, Sean on or show.
I'm not kidding. Go go look it up. Guys. It's
like a hundred centers on the Redmington Award watch list.
It's insane. Look, Jordan's seen in Colorado. Uh, you know
when there was last week there were rumors Dion was
gonna step down. That was the rumor before his press conference,
and you know, I was, I think the portal opens
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up immediately if if you if you your coach steps down,
I mean, if your coach, your portals open. Like now,
I think it doesn't. I know, it's not portal season.
I think I think if your coach leaves, it opens
up for those players on that on that squad. He
would be the guy, the left tackle for Colorado that
people would call about immediately, like the number one player
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who teams would be like, I want you to come
play for me. He is a very good football player.
You know, it's a true freshman. It's very hard to play.
He made some freshman mistakes. The thing that really hurts
Colorado's offense and offensive lineman, you know, by you know,
I guess my extension is they just have a bad
offensive design. It's just not good sean and they don't
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run the ball enough. They don't do things with formation
that really throw off a defense, and they sort of
set it and forget it, which I don't think is
a great way to build a functioning offense. And so
it is it's tough for the offensive lineman in Colorado
to be good under those circumstances. And he's good anyway,
So he's legit. Isaiah world Is I said I had
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a crush on the other day. He's the left tackle
went to Oregon from Nevada duken ball man. Oh my god,
he he he looks like Tyron Smith when he passed sets.
He's not as strong yet, but his arms go down
to his knees. Dude, he's such a he's so oftlet
He's gotta work on his run game. That's he's gotta
get stronger and play with better hips and leverage. But
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he he's a very very good pass protector and so
it's fun to watch him on film.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
So can we count on because you're in that room,
you're in that you're on the group train? Yeah, Like,
can we count on you to be pushing Utah as
a Joe More Award squad this year?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yes, I've already. I've already alerted the staff to Utah's
that's success this season, and so yes, that will be one.
I am looking forward to Oregon being the runner up
for the fourth year now and Joe Moore. Moore, We've
been a running up three years three At three years,
I've been in the committee like five years, worn up
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three times, which is not fun. But I'll be happy
if Utah wins. It's a It's a great award. I
know it matters a lot for offensive lines and the
rooms in you know, off its linemen in there. I
know coach Harding wants to win the award. So look, man,
just if they play like they should, they will be
in the discussion to win this award.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Who else is in that discussion? We have been joking
about the watch list. The dok Walker came out today
and there's one hundred and three guys, I guess insane,
although Alabama's website says there's only eighty eight, so we
can't get a real number. But in any case, we
compedy teams are actually up for it, in your mind,
in this Joe Moore Award in twenty two.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, so we haven't done any preseason watch list yet
and so but I'll tell you the teams I think
just from talking to guys, Utah is one of them.
Alabama's offensive line is gonna be really good this season.
Illinois returns all their offensive linemen. I'm kind of curious
to see how that how that looks this year with
an older, better offensive line, or we're going to be
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in that discussion as well. I'm pending of who other
who you know? Texass texts returns so much to we
loser so much from last season. The one thing about
our award that makes it unique is is really the
preseason hype does not matter to us. I mean, for example,
Army one last year. Do you think we had Army
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on our preseason watch list? No, we just we watched
the film and teams pop up and if they're good enough,
they'll be considered. But those are a couple off top
I'm sure I'm missing a couple off the top of
my head. That oh, Penn State, Penn State's offensive line,
that they were turned four guys, that running back room
is really really good. So those are a couple of
teams that I think I have my early in this season.
But again, you can work your way into this. There's
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no you can you can work your way into it.
There's no stopping anyone from being a team that we
look at because again, we're watching the film every week
and so we evaluate week by week.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
How was Armies offensive line last year, smaller than most
offensive lines because there's you know, there used to be
at least that thing in the service academies. You had
to be like small enough to fit in the Navy
ship or in the helicopter, in the air Force plane.
But I'm looking at their roster right now, and their
offensive line looks like they're you know, normal sized for
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offensive linemen.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I mean they're yeah, I mean they're not. They're un
your size. I would I think, I mean they're not
like it's not where I think your point, like, they're
so little. But I do wonder if Army is different
than Navy. I think Navy the guys are a little
smaller because I think that's where it matters more about
like the planes and being able to fit in stuff.
Air Force Josh Schwartz was no, not going to be Army.
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I could not fit any I have to be like
infantry or intelligence, no in between. I don't fit anything. Well,
you don't have what it takes for intelligence. We know that. Yeah,
that's why I never joined. Definitely, I know it's just
I just I just I just couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
What's going to be on the menu when I come
over for dinner in Charlotte.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
You want to know, like a very sort of JEFFH.
Schwartz Meredith Nipes thing. So like a couple months ago,
Marat said, Hey, this guy like no on our door
and he's selling meat and poultry and seafood out of
a truck. I bought some stuff from him. I said, Okay,
it was actually been really good. So the guy came
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back yesterday and I just bought so much stuff like
pork chop, steaks, shrimp, And then Marri said, you negotiate
with him. I was like, no, you know, I'm bad
at that. I just I just whoever told me the
price was, I just bought it. So I had these
beautiful steaks like these cowboy rabbis. I'll probably just make.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Some of those, all right, I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I mean, I can make whatever you want a dietary restruction.
Do you fight the next day? You have to? Like
you know me? Do you don't want to bloat? Do
you want to make sure you don't?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna bloat either way, so I won't blame you.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Do you have any special uh you look a special
uh guess for that? Like, do you guys have a
week by week, like a special commentator for each week.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Do you want to be one?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Put you on the desk.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I mean, who's I I can't pronounce the names though,
either it would probably.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It would be an absolute disaster.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
That's why it would be fun for Yeah, for you guys.
I mean, I'm in, I am probably coming. I just
I want to see it. I never do say probably coming, Jeff,
I've never I've never talking about I'm probably coming. I've
never gone to a fight fight before, and I think
it'd be fun. Are you gonna? Are you gonna bring
your wife? I think there they might beat the beach,
but otherwise I would bring her. Yes, she's so anti
(26:28):
I just she's so anti fighting. It's kind of weird.
Considering her personality, you would think she'd be like, very
pro fighting, but she's anti fighting.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
What what former Carolina Panthers can you like? Can you
invite to make us look cooler for having all of
them in the audience.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Hey, Jonathan Sewart's probably he'd probably be in. I think, okay,
can you get Luke Keiley there? I can ask John,
I can ask Jonathan about it. Yeah, I don't know Luke,
but he does.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I wanna I want to have. I want to have
Jeff Schwartz and and any other massive offensive lineman that
you can find, and the rest.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
We don't wonder if the Panthers are all Maybe the
Panthers are off that night too, and we just like
get a team function. I'll text a player engagement guy
like the retire who does all retire hands up with
the entire players, ask him if like open end by,
anyone wants to.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Go Yeah, perfect, I love that.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Actually, in all seriousness, really looking forward to coming down
and hanging out and appreciate you joining us on the
show today. The plan is I'm putting pressure on Jeff
by saying this publicly. The plan is we're gonna try
to get Jeff to join us weekly like we did
this past football.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
So I said I would do it. I have to.
My schedule is not completed yet for football since I
come on your show, I don't know. Probably on Tuesday,
I would imagine, is the best time to do it.
Are you? Are you on the Utah hype train like
I am? I think you're talking me good.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
This year, I am on the Utah hype train and
I know that it probably sounds disingenuous coming from a
guy who's on the home of the Utes and who
graduated from the University of Utah. But like there's everyone
jumped off the bandon thinking that Kyle Whittingham forgot how
to coach or something because they had, you know, they
were decimated by injuries. I look at this year and
(28:08):
I say, that's the only thing that can give them
a terrible year. I think that if even if you
have like a couple injuries, like a normal amount of injuries,
you're in the conference championship hunt because the Big Twelve
is wide open and the schedule, like you said, is
not easy, but it's not really punitive either. So I
and I love what I hear, I hear and see
about Devin Dan Pierce.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So I just I'm really optimistic.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
I should optimism. I think BYU is ranked two highest
start the season that's on That probably fire up everyone up.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Everyone's gonna love that.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I actually am upsetting people because I have been telling
them they're gonna be fine without rets.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Laugh.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But there are a lot of people who don't feel
the same way.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Interesting, Maybe I come on next week, we can talk
about that. I think that's a big loss for them. Okay, well,
I mean they don't have a Jewis quarterback anymore. It's
it's hard. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
That's that was the most important part about his game
for you.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, yeah, it was all right, Thanks buddy, appreciate what
you talking about.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
It about Jeff Schwartz