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October 2, 2025 • 18 mins
The former Utah Jazz Assistant Coach on the Warriors signing Al Horford, What he's watching for from the Utah Jazz in the preseason + more
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
He's out.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Let's get my latest on that Utah Jazz with former
Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
NBA than any of us will ever know.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Let's not get crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Come for the hoops talk, stay for his list of
the day, my list today, here's oc with basketball so
on Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell Show.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Well, we're glad to have Gordy chias to join us
here in this segment to make up for our lack
of knowledge around the National Basketball Association that won myself,
Bryce Larsen and Jordan Bianucci don't have, so we'll get
out to the ESPN seven hundred hotline. Well, welcome in one,
gordychias Gordy, it's been quite a couple of last weeks

(00:52):
here with some offseason news. How are things going for you?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Bryce enjoyed, It's going well, thank you, And you're right
about off season new And the first thing would be
about the Golden State Warriors. How those guys had an
off season where they did a good job as far
as their roster and it finally came a truition with
the signing of Johnathan Kaminga. They're really talented third year

(01:18):
excuse me, fourth year player that's really going to help them. However,
they got messy negotiations.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Gory sticking with the Warriors. Yeah, they signed Minga, they
signed Al Horford. What does their depth at center look
like now, because last year it was thin, to say
the least.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, Al Horfeit should be the starter and they could
switch over Draymond Green least some of the time, and
then the third backup would be Quinton Post. This young
guy who was a second year player from Boston College
was a good three point shooter. Now Al Haffit gives
them another range shooter, savvy defensive player at each thirty

(02:00):
eight Right now, he's on the downside of his Korea. However,
he's the perfect fit for them where he can execute.
They trust them offensively, and he's a good position defensive player,
so he'll add to the group. As far as as
far as everything, Steph Curry is the main guy, so
is Jimmy Butler, and so is Draymond Green, and Moses

(02:23):
Moodie's very underrated. And Brandon Paginski, who's going to help
them as far as everything, and then knockdown shoot to
Buddy Heel and then Gary Payton the second who's a
good defensive player. So willly the Warriors. They are good,
still a good team, and Steph Curry is an amazing player.

(02:44):
He's the whole reason why the Warriors are so good
for the last basically fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Gordy, I've heard a lot of talk in the last
couple of days, even weeks about one Walker Kestler and
the Los Angeles Lakers. Have the Lakers done anything this
offseason to help out their center spot that a lot
of people are talking about and connecting Walker Kessler with
the Lakers to and is there any good news for
Jazz fans that might make us feel a little bit

(03:11):
better about the Walker Kessler situation here in Utah.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well, the Lakers they're early twelking in the summer where
they're trying to trade for Walker Kessler. However that's been
now stopped because they did sign DeAndre Ayden and so
Aidon Whill he's the starting center, with Jackson Hates being
the backs up and a Maxi Kleband who's a good
all around a big guy inside outside, outside inside, So
that's the center position and Walker Kessler is a huge

(03:39):
part of the Jazz that he is home grown. He's
a good player. He's offensively challenged right now, so he's
got a fast track his development as far as being
able to score the ball on his own versus needing help.
So as we call it, he's a recipient scorer wherein

(03:59):
people penetrate or broken plays he can finish, usually a
law pass on short corner spacing. However, as the Jazz
go forward, hopefully in the playoffs, someday is that he's
going to be able to score the ball, and that's
why he's not done consistently. How With that said, though,
the Jazz are going to try to resign him. I'm sure,

(04:19):
if not between now and October thirty first, it will
be next hopefully July, where they have much more flexibility.
He's worked roughly in this market, generally speaking, between twenty
five to twenty eight million dollars a year. The Jazz
can't give him four years, and we'll say, let's average
out to say one hundred and twenty five to twenty

(04:42):
eight million dollars average, and that's what he should get.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Gordy Jaysa is here with us on the Sean O'Connell
Show on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two to one.
F them, Gordy. One question that I have about the
Jazz is they were pretty bad on the defensive side
of the basketball last year. What should our expectations as
fans be for this Jazz franchise this upcoming season in
terms of improvement on the defensive side of the basketball?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
One effort. It sounds so simple saying it, just by
playing harder you'll win an NBA season because of the
rigors of travel. If you play harder than the opposition,
you'll win two to four more games. That sounds so trivial,
but it's huge, especially when you're a good team trying
to get a different seating in the playoffs or trying

(05:31):
to improve yourself to get to the playoffs. And Jazz basketball,
like all teams, the ability to guard the ball. In
other words, the Jazz, unfortunately last year had a difficult
time of everybody guarding the ball, where even lesser talented
players would go by the Jazz off the dribble and
compromise the defense, and then they relied on Walker Kessler

(05:56):
to try to block some shots. And yet it was
rudy Gobert, where the Jazz also had problems guarding the
ball to the extreme, and the Rudy Gobert, to his credit,
with block shots. Now it's Kesler, all right, how do
you guard the ball? Just quickly, I give you a
layman's term. One, besides effrit, you've got to be in
a stance. It sounds so elementary, just like you play

(06:16):
pickup games. Oh, by the way, you please bend your
knees on defense. Two we call it a cushion where
be called press up near the guy and then back
off a slight step to cushion stance to move your
feet the stay in front of it. And the third
thing is that in screening action, do not be a

(06:37):
dish wreck, meaning this the second Semon screens. You do
not fall down like you want to be in Hollywood.
As an actor, You've got to navigate the screen, you know,
over under by lowing your shoulder. This is just simple
fundamentals that the Jazz have to try to improve on
dramatically the whole roster. And the way to do that

(06:57):
is by technique. There's nothing better than and technique. It's everything,
whether it's the NFL, if you're a d back, in
the NFL or safety, you need technique. If you're alignment
in the NFL, you need technique, and basketball you need technique,
well on both sides of the ball. That's how you improve.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Let's talk about improvements across the entire NBA in the offseason.
Guys that were rookies last year that were impressive, that
need to make an improvement and a step forward in
year number two. One guy that I loved to watch
before he got injured last year was Jared McCain in Philadelphia.
What do guys need to work on and what's the
biggest improvement from year one as a rookie to year

(07:34):
two as a sophomore and things that they need to
improve on in the offseason.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well, most times, most of the NBA players, they make
a huge jump between their rookie seasons the year two
and from year two to year three. And so these
i'll call them these talents. What they do they grasp better?
One the game speed. The NBA game is absolutely fair,
it's laser and you've got to be able to play

(08:02):
on both sides of the ball. The second thing is
that the improvement will be shot selecting. So when you're
in college or your rookie season. You don't understand the magnitude. Oh,
I feel like shooting the ball because this is my
turn says who says the player he thinks that way.
And then on good teams is that they realize that
shot selection is huge, because shot selection besides going in

(08:26):
and compromise your defense by taking so many crazy shots,
you can't get back defend the goal. The third thing
is that less dribbling. Usually speaking now I'm going to
paint the campus with one broad stroke. Most players, including
you guys, tight pickup games over dribble, and so from

(08:47):
the year one to two and two to three, the
improvement is going to be less dribbling. And the fourth
thing is that the players realize about health defense is
that besides being in your own stance, which is that
you've got to be able to be called help the helper,
and so they they're more alert of playing help defense
and recovering. And the last thing which determines so many,

(09:11):
especially road games, is a low shot, low shot clock execution.
Up one, what are you going to do? Down three?
With forty seven seconds left? What's our defense? With four
seconds left? Are we going to switch? Are we're going
to play straight up is all things that the players
get better in that situation quickly and jazz basketball. So

(09:34):
from year one to year two, Isaiah Callia, Cody Williams,
and Kyles Pilapowski, they've got to improve those five areas.
And year two to three, which is absolutely critical, Keyante George,
Kyla Hendrix and Bright censer Ball, these guys got improved.
So especially Kiante d George, he's got to get better

(09:55):
at what game speed sometimes out of control fully shot selection, three,
definitely less dribbling for being more active, help defending, and
five executing what low shot clock situations. And that's how
you improve. So a lot of times people think you

(10:16):
improved by getting new players. That's part of the mix,
but also you improve by internally by the emphasizing and
accountability of these five different things. It sounds so simple,
it's absolutely hard.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Another Utah connection, former Utah head coach Quinn Snyder, now
down in Atlanta, has a guy in Zachary Risichet, who
was a rookie last year, trying to make another jump
here for the Hawks this season, and it seemed like
they went out and made a couple of different moves.
What do you think about Quinn Snyder's position this offseason
heading into this season, and do you think Atlanta is
going to be a team in the East that can

(10:53):
make a run in the playoffs this year?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, I do ca answer the jest. They've gotten better.
They also edited Jazz forma Jazz player. Oh, we all
liked Bryson. It's going to be the Alexander Walker was
the guy that played for the Jazz for two years
from twenty twenty one to twenty three. He played only
fifty one games, but he played last year for the
che Wolves. He's good. He's a good defensive player and

(11:18):
a timely shooter. And he also had a Luke Connad
who's also a knockdown shooter. So he's got a guy
that can play defense and scored the ball and the
guy that can really make a knockdown shot. You mentioned
four about Zachary as far as Rasache is that he's
a young Frenchman and he's very good. He was the
first pick of the draft in twenty twenty four for

(11:40):
your France and he's got game. So the Hawks, though
it's that elephant in the room called Trey Young. Is
that as good as he is? As far as a talent,
and he is, and he does a lot of good things.
Often he overdribbles and some times he won takes crazy

(12:02):
shots and also doesn't defend his position, and so he's
got to get better at that to help their team. Also,
they added Christ Pezingis, who's from the Celts, who's a
good shot blocker and a range shooter, so they should
be better. Last year, the Hawks were forty and forty
two and they lost both home games in the playing tournament.

(12:27):
They lost to their Magic and lost their heat. But
in their world, they think they can get to the
top six.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Where do we have the Jazz and the Rockets coming
up next week? In the preseason? From a coaching perspective,
what were you looking for in preseason games from players?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Execution? That hits the question philosophically, how can a player
showcase their individual talents within the team game? And I'll
pause for add to that. Just think about that. Hey,
I'm a good player, I'm twenty two years old, I
was a hot shot in college. How dare you not
dreft me the NBA? And now I'm in training camp

(13:08):
and I'm playing my first few games. And quote in
the preseason, you know I have a David Stern story,
the former Great commissioner. One time I heard at a
press conference one of the media people said about David
Stern about how do you feel about exhibition games? And
then David Stern said, very very sternly, on a play
on words, said there's no exhibition games in the NBA.

(13:31):
The Globe trott is do that all games are called
preseason games as a reference point. So in preseason games
is I'm looking for execution, intensity, shot making and just
generally speaking that these guys play to win and how

(13:51):
can I showcase my own skills within the team game.
That's how you do it, all.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Right, Gordie, give us the list for this Thursday off
over the second. What do you got for us here?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
October second? I love it. This list is the NBA
career regular season triple double game leaders career wife. So
how many triple doubles there's a player half of his
career and I broke it down only to ten, and
many of them in the NBA as we speak right now,

(14:23):
many of these guys are either in the Hall of
Fame or going to Hall of Fame. Before let's right
now clarify what's a triple double. A triple double is
recorded when a player registers ten or more and three
of the following five game categories. They are one points,

(14:45):
two assist, three rebounds, four steals, and five block shots.
Prior to the nineteen seventy three seventy fourth season, the
the NBA did not officially record steals and block shots,
so we never know how many block shots Bill Russell

(15:09):
had and Wilt we never know that. And I can
trust trust them, and I say this, these guys blocked
a whole bunch of them. So that's unfortunate for those guys.
But more importantly, in the present tense hit the top
ten list. Number ten all time in Korea. Triple doubles
is domatas the bonus of the Sacramento Kings right now

(15:31):
with sixty eight. Number nine. Wilt Chamberlain did it seventy
eight times. Not know his block shot total number eight
all time. James Harden has eighty career triple double games,
Number seven. Luca Dantis has had eighty two career triple
double games, number six. He's the head coach of the

(15:56):
Dallas Mavericks. Jason Kidd with one hundred and seven triple
double games. Number five. He plays for the Lakers. If
not the greatest NBA player, certainly the second greatest of
all time. Lebron James with one hundred and twenty two
career triple doubles. Number four, He did it with a smile.
Matthew Johnson fourth all time with one thirty eight career

(16:20):
triple doubles. Number three. This guy we all love. He's
the jazz art tribal, but you all still love him.
Nikolai Jokic of the Denver Nuggets has one hundred and
sixty four triple doubles and trust me counting number two
all time. One of the greatest players ever to play
the game and yester year Oscar Robinson did it one

(16:42):
hundred and eighty one times and the number one player
and history of basketball with the most triple doubles. He's
a lightning rod. You either love him or you dislike him.
Russell Westbrook with two hundred and three career triple doubles.
What about in jazz basketball all time and create triple doubles?

(17:03):
Is Pete Marrivich with only seven games ever doing it?
And in John Stockton never had a triple double in
his Korea for nineteen years one thousand, five hundred and
four games. John never had a triple double. He did
have one in a playoff game back in two thousand

(17:24):
against the Dallas Mavericks. That's how hard it is to
get a triple double. So if Yokia is getting right now,
one's sixty four in counting, that just shows you what
a great player is. Thus that's my list of today.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I'm surprised Lebron James only came in at number five
on that list. I thought that he would have boy right.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, yeah, one twenty. It's hard, which means that you're versatile,
that you can pass, you can rebound, you can block shots,
you can score the ball, you can you can steal
the ball. But can he do it all the exact
same time exactly?

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Hey Gordie, thank you so much for your time this morning.
Appreciate you jumping on with us.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Thanks guys, Peace out,
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