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October 7, 2025 • 20 mins
The former Utah Jazz Assistant Coach on the Utah Jazz opening the preseason tomorrow night vs the Rockets. Decision 2.0, Contenders in the west + more
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
He's out.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiaysa. He's forgotten more about the
NBA than any of us will ever know.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Let's not get crazy. Come for the hoops talk.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Stay for his list of the day My list Today,
here's oc with basketball Sava Gordy Chiaysa on the Sean
O'Connell Show.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Time to check in with our resident NBA guru. Brought
to you by a Ladin Industries. A conversation with Gordy
Chiaisa as the NBA season approaches. In fact, the Jazz
have their first preseason game tomorrow at the Houston Rockets.
That'll be a six pm tip. Gordy, Welcome back. How
are you sir?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Oh see, I'm doing fine? Thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
What did you think decision two point zero was going
to be?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
God?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
He was going to retire after this season? A little?
Did we know that it was. He's a pitch man
for Cognac as far as the alcohol, and that he's
a new national ad unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Look, I don't mind admitting.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
When I got got I thought for sure we were
going to have a thirty to sixty minute program where
Lebron sat down and expressed in his own words, his
you know, love for the NBA teammates franchises, and that
was announcing that he was going to be done after
this twenty five to twenty six season. And then we
were all going to get real sappy, and we were

(01:39):
all going to be like, Okay, how important is it
to see Lebron when you while you still have the chance.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
And he was going to go on this farewell tour and.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Instead, Henness, he goes viral and capitalizes on our own
our own thoughts and preconceptions about what Lebron James is
willing to do.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
And I was a plan words you know shown after
that of the listeners. The ritten decision was him leaving
taking his talents to South Beach, which was July twenty ten.
Let's fast forwarded after long he's played as far as
NBA basketball, he's entering his twenty third season of the NBA,
which is amazing to playing at a high level. And

(02:18):
so he now it's again it's a pitchman for alcohol.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
So we wait at least another I don't know, several
months before Lebron makes a decision about his long term future.
And if you are among the fans who overpaid for
tickets to see Lebron James last trip to the Delta Center,
I feel bad. I'm sorry that happened to you, but
he got us all. Let's talk about this Utah Jazz

(02:44):
team East High School surprise scrimmage. The rookies and the
young players rolled out and they did a scrimmage at
East High School in front of a bunch of high
school students. They did a high school musical rookie dance off.
A little mild dazing there. Gordy, what's the thought process
for a team behind stuff like this?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, one thing, it's just different environment instead of just
playing and practicing in your own a facility. They took
at the East High We went up the street. Very
simple to do and it was good for the players
to get in a different environment as the leave to
go to play. You mentioned earlier about playing the Rockets
and the Spurs on this many Texans Texas swing. It's good,

(03:27):
different environment. The lights are on, this fans there chairing
and this positive upbeat.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
What was your favorite rookie hazing that you saw happen
while you were you know, coaching.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Well, in jazz basketball yesteryear is that the rookies carried
the bags in other words, where the rookie would help
out the management and the trainers. As far as them
rugging some of the bags, especially on road trips onto
the airplane, they took it off the bus and then
put it onto the airplane on the underneath your plane,

(04:03):
and that was part of their part of their thing.
It was interesting. Add to that, Sewan was that it
was part of the culture and that some most players
had a good attitude. A few thought it was really
indifferent about it, and they were hazed tremendously by the veterans.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
On a team that's so full of young guys right now,
like is Kevin Love leading the rookie You're mild with
the hazing now, but like is Lowry the guy who's
like making the rookies do something?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Every one of those team is so young, Yeah, very much.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
It's different when you're just Larry Mark would be Kevin
who Love his eighteenth year in the NBA, but he's
a newcomer, so he might try to do it. However,
it has to be done by the veterans that are
there from X amount of years, so it be Larry
markin as far as doing it the guy that's so young.
It's a different culture. It's it's it's part of the NBA,

(04:58):
but you have to be able to have a veterans
that have been there for a long time. As far
as with one franchise.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
How firmly set is this Utah Jazz roster you think
in the minds of coaches and management. You know, we're
talking about this Texas Mini Swing and you've gone through
training camp or you're going through training camp right now.
You're going to get some preseason basketball opportunities. Hopefully some
of the guys at the end of the bench are
going to be given minutes. I mean, is there someone

(05:26):
who can steal a roster spot or is it pretty
well set?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
You think.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Pretty well set. Yes. The way the rules are, you
can have fifteen players on the contract and three two
way players, and the two way players can play a
maximum fifty games before they have to sign a regular
standard NBA contract. So it seems to me that the
ross's set, but not the starting lineup or as far

(05:54):
as as far as rotation. So in jazz basketball, there's
still fighting for playing time and should be interesting. The
Jets have three players that are really veteran, it's going
to be four. One's not playing right because of injury,
George and Niang. So the question is always is Kyle Anderson,
Kevin love U, Ship Nurkice and I mentioned before by

(06:17):
George and Nyang those guys that are veterans of the
team right now the newcomers and then Larry Markin is
really the true veteran. How they integrate those guys with
all the young people on the team. That's the question
in jazz basketball, Well, we.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Know that for the Utah Jazz, this is going to
be another year as part of rebuild. They're going to
do it differently this year because of the roster of construction.
They already traded away a bunch of the guys that
can that you probably would have had to make up
injury reports for.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Instead they're just not on the roster this year. The uh,
you know.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
The outlook is that you're going to be one of
the bottom what four or five teams in the West
that there are some people think this will be first
record in the NBA again, and we spend a lot
of time all year talking about it. How do you
show growth and how do you show improvement and how
do you show the things you need to show for
the future while you're having a bad year.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
If we think this is going to be another bad year.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
By playing time to the young guys. So the way
it should be judged is that Kante George is third
year now in the NBA. His growth, Cody Williams, his
growth is for his second year. How what's going to
look like, Kyle Philopowski, how does he play? Ace Bailey
who's definitely the future. What does he do? And so

(07:39):
they're trying to balancing yes, winning because remember winning is
important in a sense where you could keep losing and
developing bad habits, but when you win, you're developing solid
habits that are in a present tense but also a future.
And that's why it's so important. Isaiah Khalier who's a
good player, Walter Clayton who's a good year young player,

(08:01):
Walker Kessa who is definitely part of the future, and
his contract as far as extension is that elephant in
the room. How does all these things come together? The
Jazz should be better. Last year the Jets won seventeen games.
They actually should be better and Austin as said that
they're playing to try to improve and get more wins,

(08:23):
and they will, and so the question is how many
at a trading deadline, what do they do with some
of their players. But as of right now, they're going
to try to integrate these play with the older guys
with the younger guys as far as getting more positive results.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
So, as we gear up for another season that is
not going to end in the Utah Jazz with a
playoff run and not going to end in a pursuit
for a championship, what teams are you eyeing as the
preseason winds down that are either trying to stay relevant
or make their way into that championship conversation?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Who's on the Gordy Chiers era this year?

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Nuggets? Nuggets are good. They've done a good job with
their roster. They have the once in a lifetime player
and Nikolai Jokicic. I love that guy the way he plays.
And their new new VP of Operations, Ben Tenzer, has
done a good job with their roster building and so
I'm watching them. Jamal Murray, Christian Brown, cam Johnson. They

(09:29):
acquired from the Nets, Aaron Gordon and Nikolai Jokic at
a bench now Bruce Brown, former Nuggets player three years
ago when they were champions, Tim Hardaway, Peyton Watson, Jonas Valacunis,
and Zike Naji. So they that's their roster. I'm looking
at them because last year they lost to the okase

(09:51):
He Thunder four games to three. And let us show
and I know you love conspiracy theories. What if just
saying if Aaron Gordon doesn't pull his hamstring, do the
Nuggets knockout the Thunder? Just saying.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
What are the Warriors going to be.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Good? Underrated? It's hard to imagine the Warriors underrated, but
they're off the radar. Screen goes, you know the Warriors.
Those guys are getting old. That's that's the narrative about
them around them. And then they're not going to cooperate.
And so they have a bunch of good players on
their team that are ready for prime time as far
as veterans. And again with their they're all star people

(10:40):
led by Stephan Curry. So they should start Steph Curry,
Moses Moody or Brandy Prazinski either or Jimmy Butler, Draymond
Green and Al Hoffett, and then their bench could be
Gary Payton, the second, but he the Anthony Melton Johnathan

(11:05):
Kaminga who they re signed was absolutely critical and the
underrated player also quit in post. So they're going to
be good. They're right there as far as contending in
the West, even though they're old. Now injuries might be
a factor. But when you have Stephen Curry and your team,
and you have Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green Escimmy al Haffed,

(11:26):
now you have a chance to be anybody because these
are the crafty veterans that know how to win, especially
in close games, both home and away. So watching them also.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
This last offseason, Utah Jazz fans, we all got our
hopes up that eventually Cooper Flagg might be wearing a
Jazz uniform. Of course he ends up going to Dallas instead,
and now you kind of have to watch him jealously
probably say what could have been here in Salt Lake City?
Should have could have would have been in Salt Lake City.

(11:58):
Have you been impressed with Cooper Flagg in what limited
we've been able to see.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
So far, Yes, very much. This guy is going to
be eventually a generational talent. He's only eighteen years young.
It's crazy. He's showing he turns to nineteen in this December,
and so last night in Forward, Texas the Dallas Marriviage
is his first game. He showed his overall versatility as

(12:23):
a rookie. Ten points, six rebounds, three assists, one block,
and no turnovers, and he goes two to three from
three point range, and you're generally speaking, he belongs. So
a lot of times you're a rookie, you try to
do things you can't do because you try to showcase
your skill set, and it becomes a negative. This guy's

(12:46):
the opposite. The game comes to him. Defensively, he is
absolutely right there as far as blocking shots, getting steals,
active hands, early eyes on defense remind me so much
of defensively of Andre Carolinko. That he's an unbelievable defensive player.
But offensively he's poised, he can make shots and make

(13:08):
place So I'm thoroughly impressed by him. And now they're
they're contending. Also they have they have a tremendous team,
the d Allason Mavericks. They have their coach is terrific
and Jason Kidd and also they'll be fighting for to
go deep into playoffs too. The West is really loaded
in the East right now, it should be the Cavaliers,

(13:28):
it should be possibly the Knicks, the Celtics, don't count
them out, and the Magic and the Pistons going to
be the up and coming team. They're going to try
to go deep into play upfront?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Where do the Timberwolves fit in?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I'm thinking of you know, you just mentioned the Cavs
and all of us still wonder what Donovan's going to
be able to accomplish before he's done in the NBA.
I think the same thing about Rudy. Always been a
big Rudy fan. What are the Timberwolves going to be
this year?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Right there? Also, they won forty nine They won forty
nine games last year, and then let's not forget in
the playoffs they beat the Lakers four games to one,
beat the Warriors four games to one, and then they
lost to the thunder of four games to one. So
they should start Mike Connley, who's entering his nineteenth season
in the NBA, Anthony Edwards all NBA tremendous talent, he's maturing,

(14:24):
Jade McDaniels, Julian Charandel, and Rudy Gobert. He's entering his
thirteenth season and then now as always it's that bench
because there'll be injuries and there'll be things that are
going on. So the question is young Rob Dillingham, can
he back up Mike Colley if Mike Colley has an
injury or as far as as far as him struggling

(14:45):
to shoot the ball, Deontae Da, Vinceanzol, who's very good jelling,
Clark Nazrid. Those are the guys and then Terrence Shannon.
So they're ten deep right now. Their coaches are good
in Chris Finch. Can they go make that leap right now?
They think that they can knock out the thunder and
last year they lost four games to one. Will plays out,

(15:07):
but they're underrated and they're ratings to be to go
deep in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Gordy, what's the list today?

Speaker 4 (15:18):
The list today is the oldest active NBA players to
start this season. So this season the ten oldest guys
in the NBA. And it's so interesting many of them
still have a game yet, which is really unbelievable based
on their training habits and their mental focus. Oldest players

(15:40):
in the NBA this season as we start right now.
Number ten, Brook Lopez aged thirty seven. Number nine, Steph
Curry of the Warriors, age thirty seven, Number eight showing
right on Q. Mike Conley turns thirty eight this Saturday,
October eleventh, number seven for I'm a jazz player, so

(16:01):
you'll see what a swag showing from the te Wolves.
Joe Ingles thirty eight years old. Number six oldest player
in the NBA. Also former jazz man Jeff Green of
the Rockets thirty nine years agold. Number five we mentioned earlier.
Second ago. Al Haffer of the Warriors is aged thirty nine,
Number four oldest player in the NBA. From the Raptors.

(16:25):
Garrett Temple aged thirty nine and sean. He was undrafted,
so think about it, the guys was undrafted back in
two thousand and nine. He's thirty nine years old. Garrett
Temple still in the NBA. Number three. Kyle Lowry of
the seventy six is age thirty nine, the second oldest

(16:46):
player in the NBA. He plays for the Clippers. He
still got game. That is Chris Paul h forty and
the number one, the oldest player in the NBA. He's
either the greatest player of all time or definitely his
second greatest player of all time. At a different debate
for a different show. He turns forty one on December thirtieth.

(17:08):
Lebron James forty one years young. Last year, at age forty,
Lebron averaged twenty four zero point four points per game,
eight point two assists, seven points eight rebounds, and fifty
one to three field goal percentage. Now Hooper Flegg mentioned
earlier he's the youngest guy in the NBA. It's amazing

(17:29):
height turns nineteen this December twenty first sean in the NFL.
Who's the oldest NFL player in the NFL this year?
Who do you think it is?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Got to be a kicker?

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Right?

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Got a? Who's the.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Well?

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Aaron Rodgers is getting up there too.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
That's exactly right, showing right on prying. Who you knew it?
Aaron Rodgers of the Steelers turns turns forty two this December.
Tewod So Rogers of the age forty two December second
colping on Jazz basketball and yesteryear John Stockton played it.
Played in the NBA at a high level till age

(18:09):
forty one, and call them alone play at a high
level with the Jazz and the Lakers till age forty
so yes, it does matter, training habits, it does matter
new nutrition, it does matter a mental focus. And also
what mattters is your teammates. When your teammates are quote
for a lack of a better word, good guys around you,

(18:31):
you tend to play at a higher level because you
want to be around them. You can never assimilate what
it's like to be in a team sport with a
bunch of good guys trying to be champions. There's nothing
like It's great. That's Lebron James.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Pretty unbelievable what he's been able to do at this age.
His own son in the NBA now, and there's probably
what there's there's probably three guys on every team that
are young enough to be Lebron's son.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
That's right. And Schehn think about it. You and Aaron
Rodgers are the exact same age.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
We graduated from high school the same year we were born,
in the same year me and Aaron Rodgers. We've had
similar amounts of success in our lives.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Obviously.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
He and I, Oh, definitely, absolutely, Oh No, you're you're
selling it. You're showing yourself too short right now, selling it?
Oh definitely. But Aaron Rodgers aged forty two, nfl R
the Stillers right now, formerly of the Packers, and then
with a short stint with the Jets.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm getting to that age, and I mean there's there's
no professional athletes that are older than me anymore, basically,
and that's a weird as a sports fan. That's a
weird juncture to reach in your life where you come
up and you're rooting for people who are older than you, right,
and you're like, you respect these guys. You root for
these guys that are you know, they're your big brothers

(19:53):
or you know, if you're young enough, they're your dad's age.
And then you kind of age out of that and
you're like, Okay, now I'm rooting for guys my own age,
and I'm getting to the point where I could, you know,
when I'm watching NBA basketball, these are people I could
I'm old enough to be their dad, just like Lebron.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Correct. And that just shows you you have staying power
and sows Lebron and that's the beauty of it. So again,
the question always is how old you are, as far
as physically but more importantly mentally, And that's the thing
about you. Anybody in sports or entertainment. You've got to
keep evolving and that's what Lebron James is doing right now.

(20:32):
And also Cooper Flagg at young at a young eighteen
years old right now, will be nineteen in December. It's
him as far as his career. There's nothing like sports.
It keeps you young. That's why, Sean, you are terrific.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Gordy, you're the man. I always appreciate your time. Thank
you for joining us.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Thanks guys, peace out, Sean.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
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