The former Utah Jazz Assistant Coach on the Damian Lillard becoming Weber State's men's basketball GM, Luka re-upping with the Lakers, Gilbert Arenas' arrest for illegal gambling + more
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Peace out.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
Jazz assistant coach Gordy Giasa. He's forgotten more about the
NBA than any of us will ever know.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Let's not get crazy. Come for the hoops talk.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Stay for his list of the day our list today.
Here's o C with basketball soab on Gordy Chiasa on
The Shot O'Connell's show.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Gordy Jayson join us on the shadow'connall's show. We're gonna
give him the summer off after Thursday. We'll see him
here in studio on Thursday, and then we'll let him
enjoy the rest of his summer.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Doherty, Welcome to the show today.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
How are you, sewan Am? Doone's fine, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I want to talk about Damian Lillard GM of Weaber
State Basketball. We've seen this with several players in the NBA,
where they kind of attach themselves to their alma mater
or to a university, mostly as a face, as a figurehead.
Dame's gonna have a little bit more free time this
next year than your average NBA player will.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What do you expect his impact on Weaver State hoops
to be.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Tremendous. First thing is a the nine time All Star,
so yes, street credit to the players. As far as recruiting,
so what does the gentleman to do As far as
the college athletics, mostly oversees the trans reporter. He helps
them recruiting, He assists in fundraising, He provides the mentorship
(01:41):
to the players internally and to the families. And so
it's a really interesting job description. And you mentioned for
about Dame Liwid a lot of free time Dames rehabbing
is let Achilles tendon. He's sitting out the whole year,
the twenty five twenty sixth season, so it helps them.
It gives weepers stated chance to compete definitely at against
(02:04):
the high level teams because Dame is there. The money's
almost equal. He could be a difference maker. Now Utah
utes interesting with Alex Jensen being the head coach. Sean
they have Wes Wilcox, who's a former general manager of
the Atlanta Hawks and the sittant general manager of the
Sacramento Kings I B. Yu who's in the top ten
(02:27):
right now as far as precison polls. They don't have
technically a general manager, but you know they have Kevin
Young and Brient Santiago as the ad they work in
a partnership. A few more facts. Stephen Curry is the
assistant general manager with Alma Mater Davidson College. Patty Mills
(02:48):
former San Antonio Spurs who from Australia, now lives in
Hawaii for in the last ten years, he's a general
manager University of Hawaii men's team. Trey Young, Oklahoma, general
manager of Alma Modo and then Shaquille O'Neill of all people,
(03:09):
is the voluntary general manager of Sacramento State University because
the head coach is Mike Baby, a very close friend.
Quickly again football Andrew Luck of Stanford Alma Mater. He's
general manager of the Stanford Cardinal football team. So it's
a new position. Some are just figureheads, some actually shown
(03:31):
do the work, and it's a new landscape of NCAA sports.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I anticipate that, you know, like you said, some of
them is just, you know, put my face on a
picture and send it to the kids. Some of them
actually get a little bit more hands on. Traditionally, Damian
Lillard has been more hands on with the things he
does than a lot of NBA players.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean in his own shoe design, all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I imagine he'll have more fingerprints on it than a lot
of guys serving the same role.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Is that accurate in your mind?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yes, it is very much. He loves his school, remember
showing he was under recruited a long time ago, so
in the Bay areas, Oakland, California, kid and teams got
involved later on, like cal Berkeley, and he was so
as far as his steadfast with Weavers State. As the
other schools came along his junior and senior year, he
(04:26):
committed early to Weavers State and the rest is history.
So he loves the Wildcats and the Wildcats love him,
and that's why it's going to work out.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Let's talk about the San Antonio Spurs spending some big
money to keep the Aaron Fox through. I think what
is a twenty thirty two and twenty nine million dollar
max extension?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It felt like a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Are the Spurs back with what they've got on this
roster and now the immediate future pretty locked up?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Well, the first thing is that as a reference point,
they have not made the playoffs in six years, So
that's what's the most current thing. The last time I
made it was twenty nineteen, but they feel that right
now by trading last season for Darren Fox and now
given the extension you alluded to exactly, his agent's Rich
(05:20):
Paul of Clutch Sports, so he's able to drive that
power that through with the San Antonio front office. Darren
Fox is one of the fastest guys in the NBA,
so he's going to play in lockstep with the effected
were in BEYONMBA. And then now with Dylan Harper being there,
Harper could play off the ball as a I'll ca
(05:40):
him a combination guard, so he will definitely help dispose.
And now with that contract he's in place his last
year Sewan the twenty nine to thirty. See, he's going
to make fifty one point five million dollars, So again
this is a new jogging of the NBA with the
collectors bargain. And you saw Luca Dante's contract also that
(06:04):
victory beyond someday probably would be the first player ever
to make one hundred million dollars in an NBA season.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Was there ever any doubt for you that Luca was
going to sign an extension with LA.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
No, not no doubt at all. Is that once he
got over moving on from Dallas, where he was heartbroken,
and then the reality set in. He's in the Lakers,
which is a tremendous spot for him, and now he
signs that long term contract for him and it's going
to help the Lakers and as they go forward, it's
(06:41):
going to help the everyone involved in the organization. You
can see right now he's committed more to fitness this offseason,
and so he was always serious about playing, but now
he seares that being helping the Lakers trying to win
a title for the first time since twenty twenty. It's
almost he's the new face of the Lakers. Not to
(07:01):
say that Lebron James isn't a great player, but if
they go forward, they're going with Luca as far as
him being him being the main guy.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Cody Chaz and my guest here on the Sean O'Connell,
sh'll talking all things NBA. Every time we talk, it's say,
what's going to happen with the Warriors, what's going to
happen with Kaminga and a stalemate? Apparently with that negotiation,
what do you think is going to happen ultimately.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
That he will sign with He will sign with the
with the Warriors. Yeah, I think that absolutely that even
though it's it's painful and it's messy, he will sign.
He'll sign a two year contract. The second he will
be a player option, and that allows his people that
if it didn't work out, he's out to be traded
(07:50):
on January fifteenth of this year. And so the way
the contract will be structured, so they're going to try
to sign him sat petuitive to sayle at first, we'll
say two and a half months with him and with
the team, and if it doesn't work out, he's eligible
to be traded. So the contract is as we speak
(08:12):
right now, two years, forty five million dollars total. It
will make him the fourth highest play pay player on
the Warriors, and rightfully so, behind Steph Jimmy Butler and
Draymond Green. So Cominga is the young guy that will
be fourth highest paid. He thinks she should. He's worth more.
So it's these people and that's been the problem right now.
(08:33):
But if I'm the Warriors, I'm keeping them there the
way the rules are restricted. No, it's bet on them
so far, So why would you want to give him
the whole thing? As far as what he what he's
people desires for party.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Did you ever play poker with Gilbert Arenas?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I never did know, but I'm but I'm pretty to
some of the things he's done over the years and
shorts alluding to right now. As far as the poker game,
it's a federal not a federal offense playing poker, but
it's how we how we did it at there his home,
et cetera, and all the other things that are going on.
Gelbl Reez was a tremendous player. That's the set part
(09:10):
about it is that he was an all star player
and he really helped his teams win and he could
score against anybody. But as the years, when in his career,
it seems that he finds trouble or trouble finds him.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
There are guys like this in every sport, every year,
in every sport. And you know you were you were
involved with I'm sure you know back room discussions on
how you handle guys like this, what you can do
to help. Where is the where's the line when a
guy when there's a Gilbert Arenas? Where Look, everyone makes
(09:45):
mistakes and gets into trouble sometimes in their life, but
when it becomes a pattern of behavior and obviously he's
he's long retired and he's not affecting any NBA teams now.
But going back to his days in the NBA, you know,
there's the stories of locker room craziness and pulling guns
on people on planes and.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
When you're a member of a coaching staff and you
want to help a guy, when do you finally have
to say, all right, this dude, there's not a lot
we can do. We need to make a decision on
whether his talent is enough for us to deal with this.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He's not going to change.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You said it perfectly. So the question is he's not
going to change. And so by being around a player
on the plane at three o'clock in the morning, you
see somebody how they really are, or in the locker
room before a game, and so the coaches and manager
who work together with the agent and probably you describe
(10:42):
there you would cut tights. Once you realize that there's
no other paths. You tried to rehab them, You try
to counsel him, You try to do everything possible within
reason to assist him to some of his vices that
a player might have. He's still doing it, and he
(11:04):
becomes a distraction to the team. So a lot of
times with in a team sport is that balancing act
between a star player that can really do great things,
but how he affects the other group and brings them down.
And that's that invisible fine line that every coach, especially
in the NFL and an NBA, how they walk. And
(11:25):
that's the point that you think it returns diminishing. You'll
move them on, hopefully to get almost a value for him,
but if not, sometimes addition by subtraction, even though it's painful.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Arenas is only forty three and he last played in
twenty twelve for Memphis. Three time All Star, so great career,
still really super solid career. Man can't keep himself out
of trouble, I will say, presumed in a sent until
proven guilty. That is the way we do things in
the United States of America. Gordy, What is your list today?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
My list today?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Show?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And we talked about so much the less few months
so about the college draft and even though Cooper Flagg
and all these guys top of the draft that they
are ultra talented people, the reality is that it's very
hard to make an impact because the players come out
so early in their career and yesteryear. Most tremendous players
(12:24):
would come out after their junior year, maybe the sophomore year,
or they stay all four years. So what that said
is a short list showing of the players name to
All NBA First Team as a rookie, So which means
that you're in the top five players in the NBA
(12:46):
your rookie season. And there's only nine guys of all time,
and one isn't Lebron James, which is so fascinating. Number
nine Alex Grozer, first to NBA in nineteen fifty played
for the Indianapolis Olympias, which larry On became defunct. Number
eight Bob Pettitt Saint Louis Hawks became Lenahawks. He was
(13:07):
first to All NBA in nineteen fifty five. Number seven
the late elgind Bellor from the Lakers. First to UMBA
nineteen fifty nine. Number six Will Chamberlain of the Warriors
now seventy six is All NBA First Team nineteen sixty.
Number five Oscar Robinson of the Cincinnati Royals now the
(13:32):
Sacramento Kings nineteen sixty one, first of MBA. Rick Barry
of the Golden State Warriors in nineteen sixty six, first
of MBA. Number three Wes Unsell of the Washington Bullets
now the Wizards, first to all NBA nineteen sixty nine.
(13:54):
Number two Larry Bird of the Celtics, firsteam all NBA
as a rook in nineteen eighty one, and the last
guy to do it is Tim Duncan of the Spurs
in nineteen ninety eight, first timro NBA, which is twenty
seven years ago. So Bird and Duncan are the last
(14:14):
two guys to do it. Now, just give him some
highlights about those guys. Tim Duncan season before he arrived
in San Antonio, the record was twenty wins and fifty
two losses. With Duncan as a rookie, the Spurs won
fifty six and twenty six. Larry Bird before being drafted
(14:35):
by the Celtics, the Celts had a record of twenty
nine and fifty three Bird's rookie season, the Celtics were
sixty one and twenty one. So that's how hard it
is for these guys. So even though Cooper Flagg and
all the other young phenoms, you think they're going to
be great, usually the beginning they play well, but to
(14:58):
be a difference maker, it's very very hard. Thus, Sean,
that's my list of today.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Has anyone in the NBA ever done the thing where
they were in the MVP race and won an MVP as.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
A rookie, Well, the only guy I would do it
was a Wes Onsell. He was he won the he refirst,
he won the MV he won the MVP all rookie
in the same year. Wow, that's how hard it is
to do. Again. The guys come out so early, even
(15:32):
though they're ultra talented, but they're nineteen years old, just
like in the NFL showing see the NFL. The reason
why they have that three year rule because they know
that in the NFL the guys are men. They're going
to take the young fellow's heads off in a game.
It's the same thing in basketball, but not as not
(15:53):
as a latly physical but these guys aren't ready as
far as prime time doing great things of leading their
team and accomplishing so many things. They eventually they might be,
but not in the beginning because it's such a differential
of strength and also game experience. There's nothing like the
(16:14):
NBA or the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Gordy love talking to you, see you on Thursday. Thanks
for the time, sir, Thanks you on peace Out. That's
Gordy Chiaza.
Peace out.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
Jazz assistant coach Gordy Giasa. He's forgotten more about the
NBA than any of us will ever know.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Let's not get crazy. Come for the hoops talk.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Stay for his list of the day our list today.
Here's o C with basketball soab on Gordy Chiasa on
The Shot O'Connell's show.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Gordy Jayson join us on the shadow'connall's show. We're gonna
give him the summer off after Thursday. We'll see him
here in studio on Thursday, and then we'll let him
enjoy the rest of his summer.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Doherty, Welcome to the show today.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
How are you, sewan Am? Doone's fine, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I want to talk about Damian Lillard GM of Weaber
State Basketball. We've seen this with several players in the NBA,
where they kind of attach themselves to their alma mater
or to a university, mostly as a face, as a figurehead.
Dame's gonna have a little bit more free time this
next year than your average NBA player will.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What do you expect his impact on Weaver State hoops
to be.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Tremendous. First thing is a the nine time All Star,
so yes, street credit to the players. As far as recruiting,
so what does the gentleman to do As far as
the college athletics, mostly oversees the trans reporter. He helps
them recruiting, He assists in fundraising, He provides the mentorship
(01:41):
to the players internally and to the families. And so
it's a really interesting job description. And you mentioned for
about Dame Liwid a lot of free time Dames rehabbing
is let Achilles tendon. He's sitting out the whole year,
the twenty five twenty sixth season, so it helps them.
It gives weepers stated chance to compete definitely at against
(02:04):
the high level teams because Dame is there. The money's
almost equal. He could be a difference maker. Now Utah
utes interesting with Alex Jensen being the head coach. Sean
they have Wes Wilcox, who's a former general manager of
the Atlanta Hawks and the sittant general manager of the
Sacramento Kings I B. Yu who's in the top ten
(02:27):
right now as far as precison polls. They don't have
technically a general manager, but you know they have Kevin
Young and Brient Santiago as the ad they work in
a partnership. A few more facts. Stephen Curry is the
assistant general manager with Alma Mater Davidson College. Patty Mills
(02:48):
former San Antonio Spurs who from Australia, now lives in
Hawaii for in the last ten years, he's a general
manager University of Hawaii men's team. Trey Young, Oklahoma, general
manager of Alma Modo and then Shaquille O'Neill of all people,
(03:09):
is the voluntary general manager of Sacramento State University because
the head coach is Mike Baby, a very close friend.
Quickly again football Andrew Luck of Stanford Alma Mater. He's
general manager of the Stanford Cardinal football team. So it's
a new position. Some are just figureheads, some actually shown
(03:31):
do the work, and it's a new landscape of NCAA sports.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I anticipate that, you know, like you said, some of
them is just, you know, put my face on a
picture and send it to the kids. Some of them
actually get a little bit more hands on. Traditionally, Damian
Lillard has been more hands on with the things he
does than a lot of NBA players.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean in his own shoe design, all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I imagine he'll have more fingerprints on it than a lot
of guys serving the same role.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Is that accurate in your mind?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yes, it is very much. He loves his school, remember
showing he was under recruited a long time ago, so
in the Bay areas, Oakland, California, kid and teams got
involved later on, like cal Berkeley, and he was so
as far as his steadfast with Weavers State. As the
other schools came along his junior and senior year, he
(04:26):
committed early to Weavers State and the rest is history.
So he loves the Wildcats and the Wildcats love him,
and that's why it's going to work out.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Let's talk about the San Antonio Spurs spending some big
money to keep the Aaron Fox through. I think what
is a twenty thirty two and twenty nine million dollar
max extension?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It felt like a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Are the Spurs back with what they've got on this
roster and now the immediate future pretty locked up?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Well, the first thing is that as a reference point,
they have not made the playoffs in six years, So
that's what's the most current thing. The last time I
made it was twenty nineteen, but they feel that right
now by trading last season for Darren Fox and now
given the extension you alluded to exactly, his agent's Rich
(05:20):
Paul of Clutch Sports, so he's able to drive that
power that through with the San Antonio front office. Darren
Fox is one of the fastest guys in the NBA,
so he's going to play in lockstep with the effected
were in BEYONMBA. And then now with Dylan Harper being there,
Harper could play off the ball as a I'll ca
(05:40):
him a combination guard, so he will definitely help dispose.
And now with that contract he's in place his last
year Sewan the twenty nine to thirty. See, he's going
to make fifty one point five million dollars, So again
this is a new jogging of the NBA with the
collectors bargain. And you saw Luca Dante's contract also that
(06:04):
victory beyond someday probably would be the first player ever
to make one hundred million dollars in an NBA season.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Was there ever any doubt for you that Luca was
going to sign an extension with LA.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
No, not no doubt at all. Is that once he
got over moving on from Dallas, where he was heartbroken,
and then the reality set in. He's in the Lakers,
which is a tremendous spot for him, and now he
signs that long term contract for him and it's going
to help the Lakers and as they go forward, it's
(06:41):
going to help the everyone involved in the organization. You
can see right now he's committed more to fitness this offseason,
and so he was always serious about playing, but now
he seares that being helping the Lakers trying to win
a title for the first time since twenty twenty. It's
almost he's the new face of the Lakers. Not to
(07:01):
say that Lebron James isn't a great player, but if
they go forward, they're going with Luca as far as
him being him being the main guy.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Cody Chaz and my guest here on the Sean O'Connell,
sh'll talking all things NBA. Every time we talk, it's say,
what's going to happen with the Warriors, what's going to
happen with Kaminga and a stalemate? Apparently with that negotiation,
what do you think is going to happen ultimately.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
That he will sign with He will sign with the
with the Warriors. Yeah, I think that absolutely that even
though it's it's painful and it's messy, he will sign.
He'll sign a two year contract. The second he will
be a player option, and that allows his people that
if it didn't work out, he's out to be traded
(07:50):
on January fifteenth of this year. And so the way
the contract will be structured, so they're going to try
to sign him sat petuitive to sayle at first, we'll
say two and a half months with him and with
the team, and if it doesn't work out, he's eligible
to be traded. So the contract is as we speak
(08:12):
right now, two years, forty five million dollars total. It
will make him the fourth highest play pay player on
the Warriors, and rightfully so, behind Steph Jimmy Butler and
Draymond Green. So Cominga is the young guy that will
be fourth highest paid. He thinks she should. He's worth more.
So it's these people and that's been the problem right now.
(08:33):
But if I'm the Warriors, I'm keeping them there the
way the rules are restricted. No, it's bet on them
so far, So why would you want to give him
the whole thing? As far as what he what he's
people desires for party.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Did you ever play poker with Gilbert Arenas?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I never did know, but I'm but I'm pretty to
some of the things he's done over the years and
shorts alluding to right now. As far as the poker game,
it's a federal not a federal offense playing poker, but
it's how we how we did it at there his home,
et cetera, and all the other things that are going on.
Gelbl Reez was a tremendous player. That's the set part
(09:10):
about it is that he was an all star player
and he really helped his teams win and he could
score against anybody. But as the years, when in his career,
it seems that he finds trouble or trouble finds him.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
There are guys like this in every sport, every year,
in every sport. And you know you were you were
involved with I'm sure you know back room discussions on
how you handle guys like this, what you can do
to help. Where is the where's the line when a
guy when there's a Gilbert Arenas? Where Look, everyone makes
(09:45):
mistakes and gets into trouble sometimes in their life, but
when it becomes a pattern of behavior and obviously he's
he's long retired and he's not affecting any NBA teams now.
But going back to his days in the NBA, you know,
there's the stories of locker room craziness and pulling guns
on people on planes and.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
When you're a member of a coaching staff and you
want to help a guy, when do you finally have
to say, all right, this dude, there's not a lot
we can do. We need to make a decision on
whether his talent is enough for us to deal with this.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He's not going to change.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You said it perfectly. So the question is he's not
going to change. And so by being around a player
on the plane at three o'clock in the morning, you
see somebody how they really are, or in the locker
room before a game, and so the coaches and manager
who work together with the agent and probably you describe
(10:42):
there you would cut tights. Once you realize that there's
no other paths. You tried to rehab them, You try
to counsel him, You try to do everything possible within
reason to assist him to some of his vices that
a player might have. He's still doing it, and he
(11:04):
becomes a distraction to the team. So a lot of
times with in a team sport is that balancing act
between a star player that can really do great things,
but how he affects the other group and brings them down.
And that's that invisible fine line that every coach, especially
in the NFL and an NBA, how they walk. And
(11:25):
that's the point that you think it returns diminishing. You'll
move them on, hopefully to get almost a value for him,
but if not, sometimes addition by subtraction, even though it's painful.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Arenas is only forty three and he last played in
twenty twelve for Memphis. Three time All Star, so great career,
still really super solid career. Man can't keep himself out
of trouble, I will say, presumed in a sent until
proven guilty. That is the way we do things in
the United States of America. Gordy, What is your list today?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
My list today?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Show?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And we talked about so much the less few months
so about the college draft and even though Cooper Flagg
and all these guys top of the draft that they
are ultra talented people, the reality is that it's very
hard to make an impact because the players come out
so early in their career and yesteryear. Most tremendous players
(12:24):
would come out after their junior year, maybe the sophomore year,
or they stay all four years. So what that said
is a short list showing of the players name to
All NBA First Team as a rookie, So which means
that you're in the top five players in the NBA
(12:46):
your rookie season. And there's only nine guys of all time,
and one isn't Lebron James, which is so fascinating. Number
nine Alex Grozer, first to NBA in nineteen fifty played
for the Indianapolis Olympias, which larry On became defunct. Number
eight Bob Pettitt Saint Louis Hawks became Lenahawks. He was
(13:07):
first to All NBA in nineteen fifty five. Number seven
the late elgind Bellor from the Lakers. First to UMBA
nineteen fifty nine. Number six Will Chamberlain of the Warriors
now seventy six is All NBA First Team nineteen sixty.
Number five Oscar Robinson of the Cincinnati Royals now the
(13:32):
Sacramento Kings nineteen sixty one, first of MBA. Rick Barry
of the Golden State Warriors in nineteen sixty six, first
of MBA. Number three Wes Unsell of the Washington Bullets
now the Wizards, first to all NBA nineteen sixty nine.
(13:54):
Number two Larry Bird of the Celtics, firsteam all NBA
as a rook in nineteen eighty one, and the last
guy to do it is Tim Duncan of the Spurs
in nineteen ninety eight, first timro NBA, which is twenty
seven years ago. So Bird and Duncan are the last
(14:14):
two guys to do it. Now, just give him some
highlights about those guys. Tim Duncan season before he arrived
in San Antonio, the record was twenty wins and fifty
two losses. With Duncan as a rookie, the Spurs won
fifty six and twenty six. Larry Bird before being drafted
(14:35):
by the Celtics, the Celts had a record of twenty
nine and fifty three Bird's rookie season, the Celtics were
sixty one and twenty one. So that's how hard it
is for these guys. So even though Cooper Flagg and
all the other young phenoms, you think they're going to
be great, usually the beginning they play well, but to
(14:58):
be a difference maker, it's very very hard. Thus, Sean,
that's my list of today.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Has anyone in the NBA ever done the thing where
they were in the MVP race and won an MVP as.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
A rookie, Well, the only guy I would do it
was a Wes Onsell. He was he won the he refirst,
he won the MV he won the MVP all rookie
in the same year. Wow, that's how hard it is
to do. Again. The guys come out so early, even
(15:32):
though they're ultra talented, but they're nineteen years old, just
like in the NFL showing see the NFL. The reason
why they have that three year rule because they know
that in the NFL the guys are men. They're going
to take the young fellow's heads off in a game.
It's the same thing in basketball, but not as not
(15:53):
as a latly physical but these guys aren't ready as
far as prime time doing great things of leading their
team and accomplishing so many things. They eventually they might be,
but not in the beginning because it's such a differential
of strength and also game experience. There's nothing like the
(16:14):
NBA or the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Gordy love talking to you, see you on Thursday. Thanks
for the time, sir, Thanks you on peace Out. That's
Gordy Chiaza.
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