The host of BYU Sports Nation on Bear Bachmeier named the starting QB, BYU's reluctance to embrace the perception of pay for play + more
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
My probably taught me many things here. You know what
they shay. They taught me, keep your friends close, put
your enemies close. Time to check in on that two
down shout. They have done absolutely nothing wrong, but they're blue.
I think it's just the red and blue.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
On the Shoan o'connall Show and Utah's number one Sports Talk,
the ESPN seven hundred ninety two one half An.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Jon o'connalls Show, we welcome in Jerem, Jordan BYU Sports
Nation for a little red and blue.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
We talked some coops with our guy jarm Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
How are you, Sehn went up? I'm great. I was
just talking with kleents Talcket moments ago. I actually, you know,
left the convo with him to answer the phone. Be
on this. So that's I want you to know. You're
a priority to me.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I'm going on Sean's show. Do you haven't met for him?
And he said, tell him I love him and he's
my favorite fighter.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know, Kilane Is He's always been good to me.
When he was my position coach, he was good to me.
He's been very awesome ever since. Every time I've interacted
with him down a big twelve media days, we didn't
get a chance to have him on our airwaves, and
then I ended up talking to him in the lobby
of the hotel for like forty minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I love that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I like, there's no way that even though he's at
BYU and I'm a Utah grad and I'm on the
Utah radio station.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Oh you're a boy too. Let's not forget that.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I can't. That's correct.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I cannot root against Koloney Sataki, and I want to
fight anyone who will.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
He's the best. He's a great human being. He loves humans,
he loves the process of developing humans, and that's what
it's about. At the end of the day. You want connection,
you want relationships, right, and Klini's that kind of guy.
He's awesome man.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
And he's decided that bar Backmeyer is going to be
his starting quarterback for this upcoming twenty twenty five season.
You know, it seemed like maybe we were trending in
a direction where that be a possibility. And they go
with a freshman, a true freshman for the first time
for a season opener. That's history, and it's hard to
make history. I mean, maybe playing football for one hundred
(02:11):
plus years. They're doing it for the first time.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Though. Yeah, it's a massive deal. I mean, you've had
seven other true freshmen ever start. The earliest it was
Game two when Tanner Mangam started against Boise State after
Taysom Hill towards List Frank against Nebraska in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But this is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And obviously of Jake Retzov's here, he's the guy. But
you have a situation, so you have a quarterback battle,
and Barrett Backmeier beat out the other two that had
started college football games that had been in the system
for at least a year with BYA that's notable. He
from all indications and people I've talked to throughout the program,
he is very smart, incredibly cerebral, does a great job
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interacting with his teammates, make smart decisions, physically, able to run,
to go through several reads, to throw it away if
needs be, to be a leader. Know, he chose to
cut his hair. That wasn't a thing that Byu asked
him to do. He just felt like, Hey, I'm going
to cut my hair. My mom wants me to and
he felt he needed too great. You know, I kind
of missed it, honestly, the luscious locks there. But Bart
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Blackmeyer is going to be the guy, a guy that
was the number six Jule Thrick coming out of high
school last year, number eleven overall quarterback from ESPN Georgia, Oregon,
A and M. I mean, everybody wanted this guy and
he is in Provo and he'll be leading the Koogs,
which is pretty exciting.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
If he brings the long hair back and gets rid
of number forty seven, that's.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
It's you know, what did you know why it's forty seven?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Why is it forty seven?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
He played linebacker and running back until about eight to
ninth grade and he just stuck with it. He likes it.
So I think when a pusing defense look over here
and they seen forty seven to go first, what the heck?
And then two, they're going to see him coming right
out him at two hundred and twenty five pounds and physical
and yeah. Aaron Rodericks said today to the media, Hey,
we are going to use him in the run game
heavily because that is a massive strength of his. So
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it's fun obvious play. His name is Bear, that's fun.
It's brother Tiger they've got a younger brother named Cougar.
I am not kidding. I don't know how Hank Bachmeyer
got a regular name. I have question.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, poor poor Hank, like the odd man out without
a eagle with that. Yeah, wyres for you, not some
vicious predator like your brothers.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
This is I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
This forty seven thing is really gonna test the love
that BYU fans have for bear Backmeyer. Because if he's
wearing like, I don't know, number eight, he's wearing number eleven,
he's wearing number four like Devin Dan Pierre does, you're
gonna see a bunch of jerseys and jerseys with that
number on it.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't know how many people. He's gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Be really really good for people to be like, all right, fine,
I'm buying the number forty seven at the at the store.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, we'll see how many people by the jersey. I
think some people will. I honestly, I think number two
for Chase Roberts will be your most popular jersey. And
then there's some other ones that could be interesting. Sixteen
for Isaiah Glasker comes to mind. So, yeah, forty seven
is certainly interesting. I love the puns associated with days
of forty seven, the right to bear arms, bear witness.
(05:04):
You know, all these puns, they're like, they're funny now
they probably will get old, but let's get out there. Man.
A dude named Bear Bachmeier is a quarterback in buy
which is great, and my interactions with him have been awesome.
I think he's ready for this moment. I think he's
super mature. And then j Drew had the tweeted today.
By the way he pulled up, he saw the kind
of remaining provo fire up on the mountain and he said,
(05:26):
white smoke is emanating from provo. They have chosen a
Katholic quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Oh yeah, Why does b YU not want LDS quarterbacks anymore?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Answer?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Make BA quarterbacks lds again? Question Mark, don't quote me
on that. Don't that's a joke. That's a joke.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Don't shut that up. I already tweeted it.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Sorry, yeah, exactly no. But the last couple of years
it has been interesting from the human side of this.
Right In twenty nineteen, Jaron Hall's first black starting quarterback
in BUA history. In you know, twenty twenty twenty nineteen,
twenty eighteen, Zach Wilson is Polynesian. I mean, I know
he doesn't look it, but is that that's a Polynesian
Player of the year. Put some recepipis on Polynesian Player
of the Year, So take that and then and then
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obviously Jake Gretslov for Jewish quarterback and Albert Bachmeyer is
the first Asian American starting quarterback BOYU his mom's tie.
His dad is from the United States and was a marine,
went to Navy. So yeah, there's some cools human interest
stories as well with the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
When we talk about a true freshman starting, right, I mean, yes,
players are accelerated in their high school development now to
where it's not as big of a stretch. And obviously
you taught you mentioned his physical size. That helps a
lot when your body is ready to play at this level.
But if you're you know, peeling away some of the optimisms,
you're saying, Okay, what's the worst case scenario here? Like
(06:45):
what do they have to be careful of when playing
with the true freshman at the quarterback position at BYU
in this Aaron Roder offense.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I don't think they're asking him to win the game.
I think they're asking him to take care of the ball,
to make good simple decisions, to be clean in the
handoffs to what you think will be a good run game.
The defense is going to get you some short fields
with takeaways. They're gonna get a lot of stops. Frankly,
the in training camp, at least the number one defense
did really well against the number one offense. But then
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I talked to one offensive player today and they said,
we did you know, we've started to do some of
the you know, specific stuff getting ready for game one,
And he said, we move the ball, so you want
a little back and forth in the fall camp. But frankly,
this BO defense top twenty five, they're really good. It
should be hard for a new quarterback to sort of
get things going, but apparently he's had his moments of explosiveness.
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He's taking care of the ball pretty well. I think
that would be the sort of hesitancy as if you're going, okay,
shoot the BO defense give up a munch points. Now
you've got to catch up. I don't see that happening
a lot. I think this BO defense is really good.
I think Jay Hill calls a great game plan. He's
got a lot of depth, a lot of quality, on
the defense and special teams is like really really good
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across the board, So I think you're asking me offense
to score enough. Frankly, if you know, Brocko Mennenhall would
always say, if we score twenty four, we've got a
great chance to win. I think if BOI gets to
that number in a lot of games, they're good. They
didn't lose the game last year when they got to
twenty four, and then they were two and two when
they were sub twenty four, So that's sort of a
magic number to watch. But certainly the schedule is tougher
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than any other true freshman who's ever faced a BYU
ten Power four teams, and there's a lot of quality
there and goodness in the Big Twelve, so it's going
to be a challenge. But the ramp up for BYU
is this is really nicely set up for a true
freshman where you're playing some good teams, but they're not
like the best teams in the league right now Colorado, West, Virginia,
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Arizona for example, in your first three Big twelve games,
then when you go through the gauntlet, I think we've
talked about it, but to repeat it, Utah At Iowa
State bye week at Texas Tech TCU at home. That's
a real tough four. So hopefully by that point he's
extremely comfortable and feels like, you know, boy can go
and win two or three.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Of those four in a week two, they've got Stanford,
which of course.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
That's an interesting game now, right, which.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Of course, I mean that's where Baron Tiger came from.
But but also so much has changed at Stanford. I
don't know how weird it is. I mean, some of
your teammates are still there, but different coach now. And
and this is this is the nature of college football.
There's a lot of players that have to face their
former teams year in and year out.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, it happens. And the only happened to have seven
dudes that we're either committed or transferred from Stanford or
Stanford was one in their final three. They got a
bunch of dudes, So you know, there's and there's like
three that will play Bear Blackmayer, Tiger, Blackmyer, Hunter, Klegg
originally was a Stanford command obviously, you know, signed with
UT and so on and so forth. So it's it's
(09:44):
going to be interesting. Yeah, And Stanford's kind of in
some disarray. Do they figure some things out early? You know,
General Andrew Luck coming to town as the GM. That's
my favorite Twitter account, by the way, is the fake
Andrew Luck Fake Civil War from Civil War. So it's
so good.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
A big picture rider Lions is expected to serve an
LDS mission.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Right, he said he's going on in one year.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Okay, So still it's a longer runway that I asked
that because if you're if you just got you know,
a big five star, number one recruit to commit and
then you say, well we have a true freshman starter
with who might be in that spot for the next
three or four years. That could affect some things. But
(10:30):
missions extend timelines a little bit.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, and it'll be interesting. I actually think that's you know,
there's there's a good timeline there. Who's to say he
doesn't go out there and go I'm going for two
it's all good. Who knows? But I think quarterbacks are
like produce. You got to use them quicker or something happens.
They either they leave or you know, they transfer, they
whatever you you go with bear the next couple of years.
(10:56):
Is it an ideal situation that true? Junior baar Box
Myers the starter and then you have a five star
come in and he competes with them, and now you've
got two guys that you love, and you know, you
go from there. And it's a great problem to have
with the portal.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Everything's year to year.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I don't I used to be like, dude, let's look
at this down seven years down the road. I don't
think that's possible with anything. It's just year to year.
Things can change so quickly with coaches and players and
systems and laws frankly and governance and so on and
so forth. So I'm not super concerned about literally anything
past this season. We'll we'll figure it out when we
(11:34):
get there.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Jerem Jordan, our guests here for some red and Blue talking.
By U Koog's on your home with the UTESPN seven hundred.
All right, there's an article in the Salt Lake Tribune
about again BYU's status when it comes to this pay
for play thing. And I wonder if you, as someone
who's closely affiliated with the school, who is a member
of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints,
(11:57):
can explain for me where the disc's comes from when
like everyone in the world is flexing their financial muscle
to try to improve the standing of their athletic programs.
And it is not as CD, if it's CD at all,
it's not as CD as it once was. It's not
perceived to be, at least in my naive opinion. I
(12:20):
guess it doesn't seem like it's yucky. It doesn't seem
like it would detract from the overarching mission of what
we know about BYU. And yet it is something that
we've heard many officials and a lot of people like
they want to emphasize, No, we are not a pay
for play type school. We are not the type of
school that's going to be the highest bidder on coaches
(12:42):
or on players. I don't understand the shame associated with
the financial success that you sometimes have to flex in
order to get these things to happen.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Can you explain it for me?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, And I'll just speak from my perspective. Of course,
I don't speak for the school or the church or anything,
but just my opinion on this. And by the way,
I know that you're a dad of like kids because
you said the word YUCKI, which is in my book
ever there as well, so well done there, Yeah, Ali?
Or yeah, you gotta go potty, I mean to the bathroom.
You have little kids. That's how it rules. My perspective
on this is that BYU is going to play by
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the rules. And previously there was a lot of, as
you mentioned CD shady things going on in college football
and whatnot. Now that everything is above board in theory,
not everything, but you know, it's above board. UY is
going to abide by the rules. And if they now
can compete and be competitive in nil financially and are
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going to do the full twenty and a half in
rev share and whatnot, they are all in. They have
bought into let's compete because what is the end game
of BYU athletics. It's to give glory to the at
the end of the day, Jesus Christ, the Church, the gospel, goodness, light, relationships, happiness,
all of that. It's a missionary tool. Missionaries are the
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number one tool from the church. I would argue BYU
football is probably number two. And it's not it's sanctioned
sort of in that way, but it is felt here
that hey, we can be a good example of living
your life a certain way and we can compete in sports.
And so I frankly feel like any dissonance in that
space is probably from a small minority, and that's okay
to feel differently. I'm not opposed to that. I just
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feel like, if you're obeying the rules and you're competing,
what's the issue. And now BYU is in a space
that they've never been in. They have incredible coaches, incredible backing,
which should be you know, applauded and celebrated, and now
BYU is able to compete for some of the athletes
that they've been losing over the years. Think about, you know,
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the players that BYU had previously kind of lost to
Duke in men's basketball, and now suddenly they're getting an
AJD Bonsa and the previously mentioned five star quarterback, and
you're getting great like Bear Bachmeyer's coming to BYU. Now
he's a starter. I think that it's never been greater
for BYU, not only sort of. They're running the program
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the BYUA, which they always will. They'll never sacrifice that
or justify that. They will always run it the way
they need to run it. And they're being extremely competitive
on the field. If you don't win, no one cares
about the message behind the win. So you have to
compete and BYUS obeying the rules and they're competing at
a high level, and I wonder if this is what
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it was like in the eighties in basketball and football
for BYU, where they were nationally relevant and doing things
that really mattered. It's a very exciting time, I dare say,
perhaps the most exciting time in the modern era of
BUI athletics right now.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I agree with everything, which is why it doesn't make
sense to me that people with influence and who do
have some measure of ability to speak for the university,
and I guess by extension, for the church, feel a
need to say, but just so you know, we're not
spending the max amount. That's where I'm like, these are
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It's okay to do that now, Like you don't have
to be quiet about how much money rider Lines is
getting or about what aj Debonce is getting from the
school because it's not illegal. It's part of like that's
why I have That's where my confusion comes from, because
everything you just said, you articulated it so well. It's
like you're playing within the rules and.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
The ends kind of justify the mean.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
If you're if you're using this as a missionary tool,
and like you you bring more people to your message,
and it is a positive message based on victories, and
absolutely that is empirically true. That's scientifically proven that when
a football team wins, more enrollment goes up, and there's
more exposure, and there's more people are asking questions about, Hey,
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what's BYU about? What are these Mormons about? All that stuff? So,
if that is the positive outcome you're looking for, I
don't know why you say, but we're not spending as
much on it as you think we are. That's where
I'm like, Okay, why do you feel the need to
make that clarification. I don't expect you to have that answer.
I'm just clarifying my own stance on it.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, And I don't feel like all the intricacies and
the means of all that necessarily matter as much as
the endgame, which is, okay, are you obeying the rules?
Are you winning games? Are you creating great people in
addition to great players? Like all of this is happening.
I would argue the greatest missionary ever is Jimmer for dead,
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like it was Paul in the Bible, and then Jimmer
took that over because his kind of social media influence
right was crazy I'm just like people know him and
they know BYU because of it, and it's it's just awesome,
and all of these good things can happen in this construct.
Now it's cool to see BYU lean in. They certainly
didn't have to, but they chose to. And now they're
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seeing the beginning of what seems like a really awesome era.
That be what you've entered into where they are crazy
nationally relevant right now, and I look forward to watching
it all play out.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Text at eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
If you agree with Jerem Jordan that Jimmer is the
greatest missionary in the history of Christianity.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
That's the LDS hot dak right there.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
That's some controversial takes from Jerem. He's he wants.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
One of the goats too. He's on the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Jere Jerem says he wants quarterbacks to be Lds again.
All right, we clipped that, and we're playing it over
and over and Jimmer's a better missionary than Paul the Apostle.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
All right, Hey, hey, Gordon Monson is taking notes on
all this, and the article will be out soon enough,
soon enough, it will I talked to court the other
day of practice the other day for like twenty minutes.
I haven't seen him in forever, and.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I haven't seen Gordon in a long time. I hope
he's doing well. Gordon.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I know you're probably a loyal listener to the show
because you've always been a huge fan of mine, and
I hope you're doing well. Jerem, thank you so much
for your time. I love picking your brain. And next
week we'll have actual games to talk. That's exciting.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yes we will. We may not have too deep from Utah,
but we will have games.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Don't don't don't you dare expect it too deep? Hell,
what kind of a fool would put something like that out?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I I when the injury report news came out, I
could just feel the bristling from Kyle all the way
down here.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
His whole his whole case about like he needed he
needs uniformity. Right, I'll report whatever you want me to report,
as long as everyone has to do it. And then
it's like, okay, well everyone in your conference has to
do it. He's like, but the SEC doesn't, So I
am still gonna mess with this.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
It's he keeps going until it's the NFL'FL. You know,
it's just people want information and he just wants I
get it. He just wants to win. I get it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
He wants to win.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
He doesn't want to give Jerem Jordan the advantage of
knowing who the third string d tackle is.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Isn't that funny? And frankly, that's mostly fault camp fodder.
Once game one happens, we see who plays. It doesn't matter,
that's zip start doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, And I can't tell you how many times we've
seen the print to depth chart and you're like, wait,
hold on a second, that's the wrong Mocha Feci that
I see out there. That's a different Calfussie than I expected.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
We care a lot about things that suddenly we don't
care about once the game's played in August. So it's
all good. We're almost there, everybody. We're almost there.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Oh, we are almost there, Jerem, thank you. We'll talk
again next week.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Thanks Sean.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Jerem Jordan BYU Sports Nation BYU Insider, obviously
My probably taught me many things here. You know what
they shay. They taught me, keep your friends close, put
your enemies close. Time to check in on that two
down shout. They have done absolutely nothing wrong, but they're blue.
I think it's just the red and blue.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
On the Shoan o'connall Show and Utah's number one Sports Talk,
the ESPN seven hundred ninety two one half An.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Jon o'connalls Show, we welcome in Jerem, Jordan BYU Sports
Nation for a little red and blue.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
We talked some coops with our guy jarm Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
How are you, Sehn went up? I'm great. I was
just talking with kleents Talcket moments ago. I actually, you know,
left the convo with him to answer the phone. Be
on this. So that's I want you to know. You're
a priority to me.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I'm going on Sean's show. Do you haven't met for him?
And he said, tell him I love him and he's
my favorite fighter.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know, Kilane Is He's always been good to me.
When he was my position coach, he was good to me.
He's been very awesome ever since. Every time I've interacted
with him down a big twelve media days, we didn't
get a chance to have him on our airwaves, and
then I ended up talking to him in the lobby
of the hotel for like forty minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I love that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I like, there's no way that even though he's at
BYU and I'm a Utah grad and I'm on the
Utah radio station.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Oh you're a boy too. Let's not forget that.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I can't. That's correct.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I cannot root against Koloney Sataki, and I want to
fight anyone who will.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
He's the best. He's a great human being. He loves humans,
he loves the process of developing humans, and that's what
it's about. At the end of the day. You want connection,
you want relationships, right, and Klini's that kind of guy.
He's awesome man.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
And he's decided that bar Backmeyer is going to be
his starting quarterback for this upcoming twenty twenty five season.
You know, it seemed like maybe we were trending in
a direction where that be a possibility. And they go
with a freshman, a true freshman for the first time
for a season opener. That's history, and it's hard to
make history. I mean, maybe playing football for one hundred
(02:11):
plus years. They're doing it for the first time.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Though. Yeah, it's a massive deal. I mean, you've had
seven other true freshmen ever start. The earliest it was
Game two when Tanner Mangam started against Boise State after
Taysom Hill towards List Frank against Nebraska in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But this is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And obviously of Jake Retzov's here, he's the guy. But
you have a situation, so you have a quarterback battle,
and Barrett Backmeier beat out the other two that had
started college football games that had been in the system
for at least a year with BYA that's notable. He
from all indications and people I've talked to throughout the program,
he is very smart, incredibly cerebral, does a great job
(02:49):
interacting with his teammates, make smart decisions, physically, able to run,
to go through several reads, to throw it away if
needs be, to be a leader. Know, he chose to
cut his hair. That wasn't a thing that Byu asked
him to do. He just felt like, Hey, I'm going
to cut my hair. My mom wants me to and
he felt he needed too great. You know, I kind
of missed it, honestly, the luscious locks there. But Bart
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Blackmeyer is going to be the guy, a guy that
was the number six Jule Thrick coming out of high
school last year, number eleven overall quarterback from ESPN Georgia, Oregon,
A and M. I mean, everybody wanted this guy and
he is in Provo and he'll be leading the Koogs,
which is pretty exciting.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
If he brings the long hair back and gets rid
of number forty seven, that's.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
It's you know, what did you know why it's forty seven?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Why is it forty seven?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
He played linebacker and running back until about eight to
ninth grade and he just stuck with it. He likes it.
So I think when a pusing defense look over here
and they seen forty seven to go first, what the heck?
And then two, they're going to see him coming right
out him at two hundred and twenty five pounds and physical
and yeah. Aaron Rodericks said today to the media, Hey,
we are going to use him in the run game
heavily because that is a massive strength of his. So
(03:59):
it's fun obvious play. His name is Bear, that's fun.
It's brother Tiger they've got a younger brother named Cougar.
I am not kidding. I don't know how Hank Bachmeyer
got a regular name. I have question.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, poor poor Hank, like the odd man out without
a eagle with that. Yeah, wyres for you, not some
vicious predator like your brothers.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
This is I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
This forty seven thing is really gonna test the love
that BYU fans have for bear Backmeyer. Because if he's
wearing like, I don't know, number eight, he's wearing number eleven,
he's wearing number four like Devin Dan Pierre does, you're
gonna see a bunch of jerseys and jerseys with that
number on it.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't know how many people. He's gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Be really really good for people to be like, all right, fine,
I'm buying the number forty seven at the at the store.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, we'll see how many people by the jersey. I
think some people will. I honestly, I think number two
for Chase Roberts will be your most popular jersey. And
then there's some other ones that could be interesting. Sixteen
for Isaiah Glasker comes to mind. So, yeah, forty seven
is certainly interesting. I love the puns associated with days
of forty seven, the right to bear arms, bear witness.
(05:04):
You know, all these puns, they're like, they're funny now
they probably will get old, but let's get out there. Man.
A dude named Bear Bachmeier is a quarterback in buy
which is great, and my interactions with him have been awesome.
I think he's ready for this moment. I think he's
super mature. And then j Drew had the tweeted today.
By the way he pulled up, he saw the kind
of remaining provo fire up on the mountain and he said,
(05:26):
white smoke is emanating from provo. They have chosen a
Katholic quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Oh yeah, Why does b YU not want LDS quarterbacks anymore?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Answer?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Make BA quarterbacks lds again? Question Mark, don't quote me
on that. Don't that's a joke. That's a joke.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Don't shut that up. I already tweeted it.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Sorry, yeah, exactly no. But the last couple of years
it has been interesting from the human side of this.
Right In twenty nineteen, Jaron Hall's first black starting quarterback
in BUA history. In you know, twenty twenty twenty nineteen,
twenty eighteen, Zach Wilson is Polynesian. I mean, I know
he doesn't look it, but is that that's a Polynesian
Player of the year. Put some recepipis on Polynesian Player
of the Year, So take that and then and then
(06:07):
obviously Jake Gretslov for Jewish quarterback and Albert Bachmeyer is
the first Asian American starting quarterback BOYU his mom's tie.
His dad is from the United States and was a marine,
went to Navy. So yeah, there's some cools human interest
stories as well with the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
When we talk about a true freshman starting, right, I mean, yes,
players are accelerated in their high school development now to
where it's not as big of a stretch. And obviously
you taught you mentioned his physical size. That helps a
lot when your body is ready to play at this level.
But if you're you know, peeling away some of the optimisms,
you're saying, Okay, what's the worst case scenario here? Like
(06:45):
what do they have to be careful of when playing
with the true freshman at the quarterback position at BYU
in this Aaron Roder offense.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I don't think they're asking him to win the game.
I think they're asking him to take care of the ball,
to make good simple decisions, to be clean in the
handoffs to what you think will be a good run game.
The defense is going to get you some short fields
with takeaways. They're gonna get a lot of stops. Frankly,
the in training camp, at least the number one defense
did really well against the number one offense. But then
(07:16):
I talked to one offensive player today and they said,
we did you know, we've started to do some of
the you know, specific stuff getting ready for game one,
And he said, we move the ball, so you want
a little back and forth in the fall camp. But frankly,
this BO defense top twenty five, they're really good. It
should be hard for a new quarterback to sort of
get things going, but apparently he's had his moments of explosiveness.
(07:37):
He's taking care of the ball pretty well. I think
that would be the sort of hesitancy as if you're going, okay,
shoot the BO defense give up a munch points. Now
you've got to catch up. I don't see that happening
a lot. I think this BO defense is really good.
I think Jay Hill calls a great game plan. He's
got a lot of depth, a lot of quality, on
the defense and special teams is like really really good
(07:57):
across the board, So I think you're asking me offense
to score enough. Frankly, if you know, Brocko Mennenhall would
always say, if we score twenty four, we've got a
great chance to win. I think if BOI gets to
that number in a lot of games, they're good. They
didn't lose the game last year when they got to
twenty four, and then they were two and two when
they were sub twenty four, So that's sort of a
magic number to watch. But certainly the schedule is tougher
(08:20):
than any other true freshman who's ever faced a BYU
ten Power four teams, and there's a lot of quality
there and goodness in the Big Twelve, so it's going
to be a challenge. But the ramp up for BYU
is this is really nicely set up for a true
freshman where you're playing some good teams, but they're not
like the best teams in the league right now Colorado, West, Virginia,
(08:40):
Arizona for example, in your first three Big twelve games,
then when you go through the gauntlet, I think we've
talked about it, but to repeat it, Utah At Iowa
State bye week at Texas Tech TCU at home. That's
a real tough four. So hopefully by that point he's
extremely comfortable and feels like, you know, boy can go
and win two or three.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Of those four in a week two, they've got Stanford,
which of course.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
That's an interesting game now, right, which.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Of course, I mean that's where Baron Tiger came from.
But but also so much has changed at Stanford. I
don't know how weird it is. I mean, some of
your teammates are still there, but different coach now. And
and this is this is the nature of college football.
There's a lot of players that have to face their
former teams year in and year out.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, it happens. And the only happened to have seven
dudes that we're either committed or transferred from Stanford or
Stanford was one in their final three. They got a
bunch of dudes, So you know, there's and there's like
three that will play Bear Blackmayer, Tiger, Blackmyer, Hunter, Klegg
originally was a Stanford command obviously, you know, signed with
UT and so on and so forth. So it's it's
(09:44):
going to be interesting. Yeah, And Stanford's kind of in
some disarray. Do they figure some things out early? You know,
General Andrew Luck coming to town as the GM. That's
my favorite Twitter account, by the way, is the fake
Andrew Luck Fake Civil War from Civil War. So it's
so good.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
A big picture rider Lions is expected to serve an
LDS mission.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Right, he said he's going on in one year.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Okay, So still it's a longer runway that I asked
that because if you're if you just got you know,
a big five star, number one recruit to commit and
then you say, well we have a true freshman starter
with who might be in that spot for the next
three or four years. That could affect some things. But
(10:30):
missions extend timelines a little bit.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, and it'll be interesting. I actually think that's you know,
there's there's a good timeline there. Who's to say he
doesn't go out there and go I'm going for two
it's all good. Who knows? But I think quarterbacks are
like produce. You got to use them quicker or something happens.
They either they leave or you know, they transfer, they
whatever you you go with bear the next couple of years.
(10:56):
Is it an ideal situation that true? Junior baar Box
Myers the starter and then you have a five star
come in and he competes with them, and now you've
got two guys that you love, and you know, you
go from there. And it's a great problem to have
with the portal.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Everything's year to year.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I don't I used to be like, dude, let's look
at this down seven years down the road. I don't
think that's possible with anything. It's just year to year.
Things can change so quickly with coaches and players and
systems and laws frankly and governance and so on and
so forth. So I'm not super concerned about literally anything
past this season. We'll we'll figure it out when we
(11:34):
get there.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Jerem Jordan, our guests here for some red and Blue talking.
By U Koog's on your home with the UTESPN seven hundred.
All right, there's an article in the Salt Lake Tribune
about again BYU's status when it comes to this pay
for play thing. And I wonder if you, as someone
who's closely affiliated with the school, who is a member
of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints,
(11:57):
can explain for me where the disc's comes from when
like everyone in the world is flexing their financial muscle
to try to improve the standing of their athletic programs.
And it is not as CD, if it's CD at all,
it's not as CD as it once was. It's not
perceived to be, at least in my naive opinion. I
(12:20):
guess it doesn't seem like it's yucky. It doesn't seem
like it would detract from the overarching mission of what
we know about BYU. And yet it is something that
we've heard many officials and a lot of people like
they want to emphasize, No, we are not a pay
for play type school. We are not the type of
school that's going to be the highest bidder on coaches
(12:42):
or on players. I don't understand the shame associated with
the financial success that you sometimes have to flex in
order to get these things to happen.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Can you explain it for me?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, And I'll just speak from my perspective. Of course,
I don't speak for the school or the church or anything,
but just my opinion on this. And by the way,
I know that you're a dad of like kids because
you said the word YUCKI, which is in my book
ever there as well, so well done there, Yeah, Ali?
Or yeah, you gotta go potty, I mean to the bathroom.
You have little kids. That's how it rules. My perspective
on this is that BYU is going to play by
(13:17):
the rules. And previously there was a lot of, as
you mentioned CD shady things going on in college football
and whatnot. Now that everything is above board in theory,
not everything, but you know, it's above board. UY is
going to abide by the rules. And if they now
can compete and be competitive in nil financially and are
(13:39):
going to do the full twenty and a half in
rev share and whatnot, they are all in. They have
bought into let's compete because what is the end game
of BYU athletics. It's to give glory to the at
the end of the day, Jesus Christ, the Church, the gospel, goodness, light, relationships, happiness,
all of that. It's a missionary tool. Missionaries are the
(14:02):
number one tool from the church. I would argue BYU
football is probably number two. And it's not it's sanctioned
sort of in that way, but it is felt here
that hey, we can be a good example of living
your life a certain way and we can compete in sports.
And so I frankly feel like any dissonance in that
space is probably from a small minority, and that's okay
to feel differently. I'm not opposed to that. I just
(14:25):
feel like, if you're obeying the rules and you're competing,
what's the issue. And now BYU is in a space
that they've never been in. They have incredible coaches, incredible backing,
which should be you know, applauded and celebrated, and now
BYU is able to compete for some of the athletes
that they've been losing over the years. Think about, you know,
(14:46):
the players that BYU had previously kind of lost to
Duke in men's basketball, and now suddenly they're getting an
AJD Bonsa and the previously mentioned five star quarterback, and
you're getting great like Bear Bachmeyer's coming to BYU. Now
he's a starter. I think that it's never been greater
for BYU, not only sort of. They're running the program
(15:07):
the BYUA, which they always will. They'll never sacrifice that
or justify that. They will always run it the way
they need to run it. And they're being extremely competitive
on the field. If you don't win, no one cares
about the message behind the win. So you have to
compete and BYUS obeying the rules and they're competing at
a high level, and I wonder if this is what
(15:27):
it was like in the eighties in basketball and football
for BYU, where they were nationally relevant and doing things
that really mattered. It's a very exciting time, I dare say,
perhaps the most exciting time in the modern era of
BUI athletics right now.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I agree with everything, which is why it doesn't make
sense to me that people with influence and who do
have some measure of ability to speak for the university,
and I guess by extension, for the church, feel a
need to say, but just so you know, we're not
spending the max amount. That's where I'm like, these are
(16:00):
It's okay to do that now, Like you don't have
to be quiet about how much money rider Lines is
getting or about what aj Debonce is getting from the
school because it's not illegal. It's part of like that's
why I have That's where my confusion comes from, because
everything you just said, you articulated it so well. It's
like you're playing within the rules and.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
The ends kind of justify the mean.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
If you're if you're using this as a missionary tool,
and like you you bring more people to your message,
and it is a positive message based on victories, and
absolutely that is empirically true. That's scientifically proven that when
a football team wins, more enrollment goes up, and there's
more exposure, and there's more people are asking questions about, Hey,
(16:47):
what's BYU about? What are these Mormons about? All that stuff? So,
if that is the positive outcome you're looking for, I
don't know why you say, but we're not spending as
much on it as you think we are. That's where
I'm like, Okay, why do you feel the need to
make that clarification. I don't expect you to have that answer.
I'm just clarifying my own stance on it.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, And I don't feel like all the intricacies and
the means of all that necessarily matter as much as
the endgame, which is, okay, are you obeying the rules?
Are you winning games? Are you creating great people in
addition to great players? Like all of this is happening.
I would argue the greatest missionary ever is Jimmer for dead,
(17:25):
like it was Paul in the Bible, and then Jimmer
took that over because his kind of social media influence
right was crazy I'm just like people know him and
they know BYU because of it, and it's it's just awesome,
and all of these good things can happen in this construct.
Now it's cool to see BYU lean in. They certainly
didn't have to, but they chose to. And now they're
(17:49):
seeing the beginning of what seems like a really awesome era.
That be what you've entered into where they are crazy
nationally relevant right now, and I look forward to watching
it all play out.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Text at eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
If you agree with Jerem Jordan that Jimmer is the
greatest missionary in the history of Christianity.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
That's the LDS hot dak right there.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
That's some controversial takes from Jerem. He's he wants.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
One of the goats too. He's on the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Jere Jerem says he wants quarterbacks to be Lds again.
All right, we clipped that, and we're playing it over
and over and Jimmer's a better missionary than Paul the Apostle.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
All right, Hey, hey, Gordon Monson is taking notes on
all this, and the article will be out soon enough,
soon enough, it will I talked to court the other
day of practice the other day for like twenty minutes.
I haven't seen him in forever, and.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I haven't seen Gordon in a long time. I hope
he's doing well. Gordon.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I know you're probably a loyal listener to the show
because you've always been a huge fan of mine, and
I hope you're doing well. Jerem, thank you so much
for your time. I love picking your brain. And next
week we'll have actual games to talk. That's exciting.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yes we will. We may not have too deep from Utah,
but we will have games.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Don't don't don't you dare expect it too deep? Hell,
what kind of a fool would put something like that out?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I I when the injury report news came out, I
could just feel the bristling from Kyle all the way
down here.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
His whole his whole case about like he needed he
needs uniformity. Right, I'll report whatever you want me to report,
as long as everyone has to do it. And then
it's like, okay, well everyone in your conference has to
do it. He's like, but the SEC doesn't, So I
am still gonna mess with this.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
It's he keeps going until it's the NFL'FL. You know,
it's just people want information and he just wants I
get it. He just wants to win. I get it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
He wants to win.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
He doesn't want to give Jerem Jordan the advantage of
knowing who the third string d tackle is.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Isn't that funny? And frankly, that's mostly fault camp fodder.
Once game one happens, we see who plays. It doesn't matter,
that's zip start doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, And I can't tell you how many times we've
seen the print to depth chart and you're like, wait,
hold on a second, that's the wrong Mocha Feci that
I see out there. That's a different Calfussie than I expected.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
We care a lot about things that suddenly we don't
care about once the game's played in August. So it's
all good. We're almost there, everybody. We're almost there.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Oh, we are almost there, Jerem, thank you. We'll talk
again next week.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Thanks Sean.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Jerem Jordan BYU Sports Nation BYU Insider, obviously
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