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October 20, 2025 β€’ 20 mins
Ever wonder what it takes to be a Scarywood monster? Maybe a love for horror films? An obsession with graveyards? Being a spooky season fanatic? πŸ‘»

In this week's episode of the podcast, Sara Jean & Jordan uncover a few secrets about moonlighting as a monster that may surprise you. In this 3-part series, you'll find out who travels 8 hours every weekend just to scare, who's a pre-school teacher in the daylight, who spends their days as a balloon-making clown, and who spent two seasons on The Walking Dead. πŸ§Ÿβ€β™‚οΈ

It's an extended episode you DON'T want to miss! Part TWO with Keith Araya as Flip Flop the Clown, now streaming anywhere you get your podcasts!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Summun Come tied up fun, thrill spells that'll make jest
come tyned up fun, Come tied up fun.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, welcome to this week's episode of The Silverwood Show podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I am your host, Sarah. This is Jordan, the most amazing.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Co host, and we have great guests this week. Yes,
splitting things up with some of our incredible monsters.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Well, so many people like we're open what fourteen thirteen nights?
There are so many of these monsters that have other jobs.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, they actually daylight as things.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Exactly, so we want to introduce you to them. So
that's what we're doing this episode.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
But this guest, he Daylight, does the same thing.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's true. Yeah, gotta start here though, Yeah, you do.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
It makes balloon animals by day and he scares you
to death by night.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Welcome Keith Ariyah, also known as the famous clown flip
Flop Trum, and we're back with our next very spooky
clown and a clowns tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I want of clowns tonight because the clowns rule.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Okay, yeah, if you hear jingle bells, you'll know who
we're talking to.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Because you've probably seen him on a lot of our
advertising this year. You've probably heard that laugh. He's pretty
well known everybody. This is Keith a Riot, also.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Known as flip Flop. I look gosh, yes, literally, we're
getting me ready for Christmas right now.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
No, not yet, not yet. You can stay in spooky
season just a little bit longer.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Alright, Keith? So how long have you been haunting at
Scary Wood?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
This is your seven for?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Seven years?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Have you always been flip Flop?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
No? My first year I was a roaming zombie okay.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Okay, and then you just became a clown lover yep.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Talk about how how was that transition from? Because how
many years were your zombies? Just for your one you know?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, and then he became clown?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yes, I never looked back.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yes, how was that transition?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Because those are very different characters. Oh. I mean I
learned a lot from being a zombie, especially how to
like walk, because when you are a zombie, it's it's
all like weird, janky body movement, and I put a
lot of research into it. And then when I became
a clown, I'm like, okay, well I got some training
from being a zombie, and now I just gotta put

(02:30):
on a voice, you know, and just change change my
character a little bit. So I mean it wasn't too
bad of a transition. I really enjoyed playing both characters,
the zombie and then switching to being a clown. But
I've always liked using my voice more whenever I'm doing
my theater or something like that. So having a thank you,

(02:52):
the freedom as a clown to improv more and speak
to guests more is a lot of fun. I do
enjoyed a lot lot of that.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, and you as a zombie, I mean you probably
have to learn more about the scare factor of like
jump scares, because it's not a ton of that because
I mean every year in scare school, I'm showing video
and one of his scares from as a zombie is
one that always comes up because it's so good about
like closing space and all that kind of stuff. So
it's always like, oh, that was that was Keith. But

(03:21):
how how did you translate that into what you do
with all your whole character for clown clown?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah? Yeah, so being a zombie and especially being in
that one like Rocky spot you can jump out at
someone and then I pretended I was like one of
those eels you would see and like one of those
nature documentaries that pops out and more.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, But translating that to being a clown, there's a
lot of things you can definitely do if you're standing
still being a clown, you have a lot of presence,
you have a lot of aura, so you just kind
of stand there and you want people to see you
and when they come up, if you can jump out
at them and jump back and go back into your
spot or whatever you were doing. It's it's that quick

(04:06):
and rapid change that really gets people and skins them. Yeah,
it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
And talk to us about your your friend. Oh, yes,
this this is this is my best friend.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
His name is Sling. He's very nice. Well not all
the time, he says, I'm not eything said sometimes, but yeah,
he's on a little leash here. I keep him on
a leash. But he likes to jump out at people
and get really close to them and spoop them out.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
So for those just listening, keep holding a double headed
what what would you call that?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
A double headed clown?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, with a it's on a bungee, yes, so he
can basically sling it at you.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yes, yeah, which.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Is an art for sure, an art right because you're
pro at it. I don't know how you can get
like just so but never ever touch anybody.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
It's incredible watching him.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
It's like an art. It's it's so much fun style.
It's like you got that full on, like hung fu
fighting thing going on.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, it really helped out a lot. There was one
season where it was extremely foggy all the time, so
that helped with gauging distance and being extremely careful, especially
with this thing. Yeah, it has a lot of reach
to it, so you gotta you gotta be able to
have a lot of spatial awareness.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
When you use itarly gauge it. You're great at it.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I mean, what's your your favorite scare tactic? I mean
and technique too with sling.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Oh, I have so many one of them that I
really like to do. I like to show people that
I'm holding ahead and then tell them I don't want
to hold it anymore and toss it at them, or
like hot potato and throw it at them. But I
want them to see that it's just ahead and then
it's in their face and they freak out. And yeah,

(05:54):
I also just use them to freak people out, especially
like with this being like so bloody and gross like that,
I'll show people just like rub my hand over it
and then just like start walking towards them with my
handout and they freak out.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, do you have like a fan club? You have
to have a fan club. There's got to be like
the following.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I'm not aware of this fan club.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
I think the only thing that I've seen is when
we took him to the Spokane Indians game and he
threw out the first pitch and it was amazing. If
you haven't seen, it's on the Instagram.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Most incredible thing I think I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
And that was it the catcher. Yes, yeah, poor guys
had no idea. I didn't see it coming. That was.
That was honestly like Oscar Worthy.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
It was.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
It really really was. Yeah, it was so.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well And then they shared it with the MLB and
so hopefully a lot more people saw it. But real yeah, crazy,
I know that, But from that moment, I do remember saying,
that's my boy, flip up whatever. So I don't know
if those are just friends of yours, but it might
be they are.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, a lot. I talk a lot about being in
Scary Wood and being a spooky clown. It's It's always
the highlight of my year. It's something I'm very passionate
about and I try to get people and do it
with me and stuff. But I talk a lot about it,
and so when they put it on Facebook, I didn't
even share it. I was just like, I think I
liked it, and then everyone saw it and then reposted

(07:19):
it and shared it, and then it was really funny.
My sister found out about it, and it's like eleven
o'clock a night and I get a call from my mom.
She's like, why didn't you tell me about this? I
would have gone to the game, And like, I didn't
know I was doing it.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, it's true. We kind of sprung it on him
like twenty minutes prior.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
The fact that you sprung that on him twenty minutes prior,
and it was that incredible.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
The fact it was funny because we're sitting in this
like kind of green room type thing getting ready and
were like springing on and we're like and he's like, what.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Do I do? We're like, do what you do best?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Just being flip flop. Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
That was such an interesting experience going out into this stadium,
I see, like, I'm so being around like you guys
when at the like Indians game, and I'm like, okay,
I know there's people around here that I'm comfortable. And
then some lady comes up. We're like we're ready for
you now, and they just pulled me away from it.
I was like, oh no. I go out into the
stadium and I had to psych myself up and like, Okay,

(08:16):
you're a gladiator in a stadium and you're so brave
and you're so courageous, and I'm like, so scared.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
It sccarer being scared?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Am I throwing out a first pet?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
It's terrifying. Yeah, it was so good.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
It was so good, so good, like it was. I
don't I wasn't even in town. I don't even know
where I was, but I see this thing.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I got a text it was and I was like,
this is the greatest thing I've ever seen. It was incredible. So, yeah,
nice work with.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
That, Thank you. It was a lot of fun. I
enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
So what do you do in the off season?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
In the off season, as of this summer, I had
the opportunity to go down to Seattle and work alongside
one of my friends. His name is Presto, and he
taught me how to be a professional clown. So I
am now a professional balloon artist, a balloon twister. I've

(09:12):
been booked for a couple events, but hopefully next year
I'll have a lot more events and parties that I
can go to. Super fun.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, who would have ever thought.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
You would go from being a zombie to a clown
to a real life right Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, Well it's funny because I mean, you're not the
first one to come out of Scary Wood as a
professional clown.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, so yeah, she was. She was the one who
really wanted me to come out to Seattle because she's
she's been gone on the East Side and she's like,
please please come to Seattle take over my gigs for
me because I know you do a good job. And
I had the time of my life. It was awesome.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Gosh.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, literally, yeah, that's kind.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Of inspirational, and it's super inspirational.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I love that I've always wanted to do more things
in acting and entertaining and putting my foot into like
doing clown stuff like this is this is just the
first step of what I want to do for like
the rest of my life.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Do you wear the dingle bell things when you're a
normal clown.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, this is just is my thing now brand my
icon never make probably oh yeah yeah, yeah scary. I
learned how to do my own makeup and had to
refrain from like folds cream.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Clown to stay Okay, okay, because I'm impressed.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's it's there are different types of noses. This one
that I have on is just a glue on nose.
Slathering your nose with glue and then stick it on
and hope it stays on the night.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
There are ones that are like septim clip ons that
you clip it on.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Ok. That would kind of bother you by the end
of the night though.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Right, Yes, I've heard some people. I mean there's pros
and cons to both. The one with the septim clip
I've heard it kind of gives like it gives you
a little rash.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah assume Wait, the glue doesn't give you a rush.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
No.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
This The only like bad thing is it's kind of
like a texture issue for me. When I put on
a whole bunch of glue and then you have like, yeah,
nose on, it's like.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Kind of gives me the EPG's just thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yes, it does have little nostrils. It's not super fun
to breathe in. It's kind of like putting on like
a full on like mask. You know, when you breathe
it gets conversations something. It's the same thing for the nose.
You like sweating and take it off and just steam.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Oh wow, we definitely need to do that one night.
We do that tonight.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
But how how do you feel like now your professional
life has translated to scary Wooden?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Oh. One thing I've noticed is a confidence. There is
definitely a boosting confidence.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Sizzle has been talking to me about like all like
how does it translate? You know? What's the difference? So
from being a professional clown, there is there's a lot
to it. You have to know how to manage people.
You do have to have spatial awareness, and you are
your job is to make people smile.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
If your goal is not to make people smile, you
shouldn't be a clown, right. But for scary what, it's
the same thing. You gotta make people smile, you gotta
you gotta scare people. And so being a professional clown
and coming to hear there's not a huge difference because
you're still entertaining people. You're still in the spotlight the
entire time, and you're making people smile. The only real

(12:25):
difference is is now I can kind of like let
loose more. My mask come downs a little more, so
I can Yeah, I can let loose. Yeah, that's what
I would say for that.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Probably, I mean very similar energy, just different paths.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely yea. Being a balloon twister and having
like an hour long line, you know that some people
are waiting, and so when they get there, it's all
about It's all about the experience, right, doesn't It doesn't
matter how much you make or anything else. It's when
they're in front of you and you're right there. You
are putting on an a experience for them. You're selling

(13:01):
an interaction to them, and that you want them to
walk away with a smile on their face and to
remember you and have a good time. Yeah, it's the
same thing for scary Wood. When they walk away from you,
you want them being like, oh I was so scary
or that was so good something like that.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Oh, you're definitely memorable.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Memorable.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Can I ask what the coolest balloon is that you make?

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Man, have you seen the Xeno morphro Malian. Yes, I've
made one of those, a really like like a big one. Wow,
that one. So I've only done balloon twisting for four months.
That's like in total how long I've done it. At
the very beginning, my roommate would tell this story. I
would come home and just make a whole bunch of

(13:42):
balloon dogs just to get the feeling for twisting blonds.
And I came back home after four months of being
in Seattle and he goes, can you make me, like
I don't know, a water buffalo, a bison? Can you
make me Apa from Avatar? And I made him Apa
from amaz Wow, just out of just memory. I'm like,
I know what Apa looks like of literally Yeah, so

(14:02):
yeah I was. He was like he was impressed, and
I was like, I guess I can. I can just
freestyle now as long as you don't overthink it. It's
it's pretty simple, I guess to do. It's a lot
of pattern recognition for balloon twisting.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
But you need to make the marketing crew a balloon
in our area. Yeah, if you ever get bored, If
you ever get I usually keep balloon stuff on me
just in case. Ok, Yeah, can we make it Jordan balloon. No,
we need a Jordan balloon.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Balloon?

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Oh my gosh, yeah, I think I could do that.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, I bet you could deflated balloons.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Well, if he comes through, I'll make sure on social media.
That would be the greatest. Wait, Jeordian, is your birthday today?

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well not when.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
We release this, yeah, but I mean just saying I have.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
A birthday song for you, George. Tomorrow tomorrow sounds great.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
We need to hear it right now.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Then everyone, tomorrow your birthday. So okay, here we go,
hold on, hold on.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Maybe maybe.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I think I'm ready. This is your birthday song. It
isn't very long.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
I love it. Yes, I wish I had a drop
for that. But how about for a scary wood? What's
your favorite haunt?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
What's my favorite haunt? Recently? It has been Pharaoh's Curse
when I when I first went through it, I love
caved In. That was my favorite haunt for a while,
and then we switched to Pharaoh's Curse and I was like,
it's just it's not the same as caved In. But
then every year, I don't know what you guys have

(15:55):
been doing, but it's gotten scarier every single year, and
last year when I went through as a guest, I
was I was floored. It was good. I had to
run it back. I'm like, we're going through again. It's
so good. I love it. It's all right.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
So a little shout out to Pharaoh's curse.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, good job, fars job Pharaoh's curls so much, keep
it up.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
So do you have outside of the clowns. Do you
have a favorite monster in the park.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yes, Oh, I have a couple. My first one that
comes to mind. I don't know her name, but she's
in toy box. She's a doll, the pink and dress
with like the white long sleeve.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yes, Jill. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I even during dry run, I had to. I had to,
someone had to block my view from her. I have
a fear of like animatronics and dolls and stuff like that.
And with the way she walks, like uh, we're done,
We're done. It's a car movements. I mean she was
the first time last year. It's phenomenal. I don't I've
never seen someone walk like that before. And for the

(16:57):
extended amount of time that she does it it Oh
my gosh. So many people can learn from her because
it is absolutely amazing with what she does. Last year,
when I went as a guest, shout out to Frosty Yea,
Oh my gosh. He was so funny. Every time I
would look away and look back, he's close. And he
did that for like at least five minutes, and I

(17:20):
was like, I love the commitment to the bit. It
was so good. And there's one more. I think he's
in phobias and it's like a it's like a bat
and it has a whole bunch of like white pimples
and a whole bunch of tea and stuff like that.
That man creeps me out. Yeah, that's that's terrifying. He's
when he's yeah, yeah, terrifying. He makes fun of me.
He's like, you are you gonna look at me this year?

(17:41):
I'm like, nope, you scare me.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Which leads me to another great question. Do you have
a big phobia? What's your biggest phobia?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Okay, so I was made fun of this. Uh my
biggest phobia is like deep water, like ocean. Yeah, the
last of phobia. It's it's not so much like deep water,
it's it's not seeing what's underneath me. And then I'm
pretty sure I have like like hyper fantagious. So I
have my mind just so many things, and I'm like,

(18:09):
I've seen way too many horror movies that deal with
creatures in the water. There could be a Megaladon, Moses
sore other creature I don't.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Know, and you could lose a few toes.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I could die. No, thanks, I'm good. I'll stay. I'll
stay where the I can see the ground and it's
it's pretty and nice.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, I'm with you. We need very common it's a
very common one deep water. We're thinking about things. Yeah, yeah,
I do the Jordan. Oh you just wait, look, you
just wait.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Wouldn't it be awesome?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
So cool? I think I was talking about that this
year is someone I'm like, man, iould be cool if
they did like an underwater type of thing and like
really played on like glass of phobia and things and water.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Imagine just like some rotting mermaids.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
There, I said a picture of one.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
I was so excited. You sends me this picture of
this adding mermaid corpse when he was at his convention
thing and just I was.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Like, we need that.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I don't know why, but we need it obviously. So
so you're coming back to join us.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Next year and the year after.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, like I don't plan on stop.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's what we like to hear.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Where's the best place to find you if someone wanted
to come get a picture.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Well, if you if you come to clowntown, I'll be
there with sling obviously, and.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
We'll be walking around and we'll be doing our thing.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Did you have anywhere questions?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Right, we've covered it all.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
We are so happy that you joined us today. Flip flop, Yeah,
you out in clowntown.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yeah, And that's a wrap on this week's ride.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Thanks for tuning into the Silverwood Show.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
If you had a blast to make sure to subscribe,
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Speaker 3 (20:10):
Until next time.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Keep your hands and feet inside the podcast and stay thrilling.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
What God sell one?

Speaker 4 (20:18):
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