Behind the Curtain: The Secrets of Phantasm's Magic & Illusion

(00:00:00) Behind the Curtain: The Secrets of Phantasm's Magic & Illusion
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Join Phantasm star Nick Norton as he reveals how to become a magician!

How does one actually become a magician? Silverwood Theme Park's residient Illusionist, Nick Norton, answers that question and more as we take a peek behind the curtain of Silverwood's Theater of Illusion and its brand-new circus-themed show - complete with aerialists, bunnies, the return of Gypsy & Doctor Cosmo, and more! ✨️🎩🐇⁠
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Come joined up on thrill that'll make.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Come join up fun s, Come joined up fun.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Well, Hello there, friends and loyal listeners, Welcome to another
wonderful episode of the Silverwood Show Podcast. We're really kind
of getting into the season now, and we've got a
guest that you've been asking for this week.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
They might recognize those guests.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
You might know who he is. I mean, we're just
gonna tell you.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I mean, if they're listening to this, they prior lady
saw it in the title.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
So yeah, So we will be talking some behind the
scenes illusions and magic and all things.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
In his background and all this stuff and what's new
with this upcoming season as far as the Magic Show goes.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
It's super excited about it. The brand new show this
year and you definitely don't want to miss it. So
that's coming up in the big drop. But why don't
we kick things.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Off at the park Pools Park Pools.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
We have made it through our second weekend, our mom's weekend,
and it was it was beautiful for one day we did.

Speaker 6 (01:10):
It was very nice.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, thank goodness for Saturday because Sunday's weather wasn't exactly
where we'd like it to be.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
But I think the moms had a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
So we were actually here because we we had King
five News over in Seattle here, yes, and we were
with them because they're doing a little piece for us
on their local Lens YouTube series and also they're going
to be on our podcast in June, so we're just
like getting to know them and all that stuff, and
so we were around the whole day and it.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Was it was a great day, so much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Jordan wrote every single ride in the parks. We saw
him out there. I know people are starting to recognize you.
He's getting stopped in the park like that's a podcast guy.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, I wrote, We rode Stunt Pilot, we wrote after Shock,
timber Terear, we wrote after Shock, We rode Corkscrew, we
rode log Flume, tiltal Whirl, thunder Canyon, and the train,
saw the Magic Show.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
And then finished the day off with after Shock. We
wrote it again. Yeah, we were the last ride of
the day.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Wait, did Kelly write it again?

Speaker 6 (02:14):
So?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Kelly is the host as the shows, and she is
the host of the morning news there at King five
as well, and it's just really funny to see you
next to Kelly and She's in the fetal position and
Jordan's got his arms out and he's just smiling the
biggest smile.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Uh, it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I think she had a great time though.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah, she had a wonderful So then their co host
Jose was here as well, and.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
So and they call him extreme hosea right, So Zach
kind of tells you.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
And we got them in the show. So Kelly was
in the magic show and Jose was in the train show.
And so it was just a great fun day. But
you'll you'll be seeing that on their YouTube channel, which
is Local Lens Seattle.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's going to be so awesome when they put that together.
So we had a fun day and I think it's
going to definitely reflect that.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
For Sure's Day. Ever, I heard that from her mouth's
best they ever.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Did she actually did and h yeah, she thoroughly enjoyed
the treats as well.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
So Sure did, Yes, very much.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
So so Mother's Day weekend thanks to all the moms
that came out as well. We're coming up on Kids
Weekend this weekend, and so kids seven and under are
going to get in free. Yeah, so lots of kids
are out and about.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Well, and this is one of the weekends that is
more of our slower weekends in terms of our May promotions.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And so.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
That's that's kind of a special thing to come out
and enjoy the park, especially because the weather is not
looking horrible, but it's not looking like the seventy five
and sun we had on last Saturday. And so if
you're a season pass older or you're just looking out
to come and enjoy the park, Yeah, this this Saturday
Sunday would be a really good weekend to do that.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, shorter lines and it's it's gonna be a good time.
And because kids, I mean, it's always fun when there's kids,
and so yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
And you can buy those tickets on our website at
silverwoodthenepark dot com to get the kids weekend tickets. And
you do not have to purchase a ticket for anyone
seven and under because when you come to the park,
they'll get in free when someone else in your family
purchases a ticket.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yes, so that's a good description because we get that
question often. So we're coming up on Boulder Beach in
the dry run, So yeah, I believe it. It's like
we've barely gotten used to Silverwood being open in the
dry Park and now we've got Boulder Beach just creeping
up on us.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
So we're just two weeks.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
We are, Yeah, we're two weekends out. Oh wow, yeah,
oh wow, it's coming.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
It is coming really really fast. So yeah, be.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Prepared, yep.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
And so there's a lot of things that are happening
between there too, because we have ni of the Stars
this week, which is one of the best nights in
the entire entire year.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Neither Star so great that we made it two nights
that yeah, it's two nights. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
So for those who don't know, it is a night
that we give tickets to anybody who has a who's
physically or mentally disabled, and then also anybody who has
it like a terminal illness, and they can sign up
for this night through like one of their providers or

(05:11):
even like a school district, but they get free tickets,
and their caretaker gets a free ticket, and they get
a free meal as well, and then their family can
purchase cheap tickets for it's from four to eight and
it's such a cool night, so we have tons of
volunteers to help lift people out of wheelchairs and onto
the roller coasters, just because that takes more time.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
And I love is that we actually usually run out
of space for volunteers because we get so many people
do get a volunteer and I love that so much.
So community really comes together. Sure, and it's a beautiful night.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
So that's fun.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
And then then the next week we have our Physics
and Science Days, yes, which is another day where we
invite school groups to come out to the park and
we have some fun things.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
I heard something about egg dropping.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
We do have an egg drop where they get some
pieces like a straws and tape and they get to
make an old their own egg contraption to keep it
safe as they drop, and we increase the height. You
haven't been here for so it's a really fun thing
for the kids to do. And we've gotten as high
as like eighteen feet when they're dropping and it's not

(06:21):
breaking Solap's cool. And then we have like a roller
coaster building contest that we do for like the high
schoolers and we judge that, and then there's other activities
throughout the day as long as well as like riding
the rites and having it just a great time.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, oh wow, that's a lot of really smart heads.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's fundating. Yeah, it's gonna be great, and then it's
a Memorial Day.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Week it's a Memorial Day weekend, and then that's Hero's weekend.
So weekend, yeah, it's and then we're into June.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Water park. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Well and last year the water park didn't open untill
the first weekend. Well I think it was June eighth
last year that the water park opened, but just because
we were putting the finishing touches on the forests, right,
and so this year we don't have to do all
of that.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
So we're open.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
We open Memorial Day weekend and then it's open the
following weekend until June seventh.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Then it'll be open daily.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, okay, because yeah, go look at our calendar and
our schedule on our website.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
It's it's a little a little different this year.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I know a lot of people confuse, but you can
just find that at Silverwithepark dot com.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
And so, yeah, so we're moving into that. Tremor's updates.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yeah, we have a quick update. Is that from what
I've heard is that by the end of this week
we will be running some test runs. Okay, we should
be running test runs through the weekend. It will not
be open, but we should be running test runs through
the weekend just to get sure it's safe, get everything,
get all that under our belt, and then we'll assess
it from there to see if we are ready to
go for a Memorial Day weekend. We'll see, we'll see

(07:45):
as long as everything goes well, that's kind of where
we're where we're hoping.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
That's the goal.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yes, yes, but things do change, so just yeah, no
quoting us on any of that. Begging you well, what
do you say? We get into the mail train and
answer some questions whale train, and we are back with
some questions from our loyal listeners. Uh, let me start
off by saying, wow, they continue to sign up, And

(08:09):
if you'd like to sign up too, all you got
to do is go to silverwidthmeepark dot com, slash podcast
and already become a loyal listener for your chance to
be featured with one of your questions or potentially have
Jordan and I call you with a chance to win
a PAA tickets. Well, you do win Paara tickets and
a chance to win a netay of seventy five dollars
and so forwood cash. So we'll do that here in
just a moment for this week's winner. But let's answer

(08:31):
some questions. We had SHAWNA Bentley write and she wants
to know what's the most amount of people that have
visited in one day here at Silverwood.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Oh Man Actually was back in twenty nineteen. Okay, so
we had a Saturday in twenty nineteen where the previous
Saturday we had rain, and so there wasn't that many people,
and so we we.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Forecasted that no pun intent.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
But the next week and next weekend was looking a
really nice and we knew that people were going to
come out, and so that was the most people we've
ever had before and it was thirteen eight hundred.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, so that was oh wow.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
That was a day where we were telling people like, hey,
if you if you don't have to come today, like
they might not be there, maybe come back tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
So yeah, but still to be there on a record
breaking day kind of cool to say, right. So, well,
that's a great answer and great question, Shawna, Thank you
for that. Trevor law wrote in wanting to know how
long is the railway track?

Speaker 1 (09:29):
A good question is three point two miles?

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Oh so it's kind of like a five k yeah, sure.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, three point two miles around and it goes
and it goes around the property, but it kind of
on the back side, it kind of cuts straight through
our property and then curves back around. So you do
get a sense of how big the sour Wood property is, yeah,
when you're back there.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
But yeah, three point two miles.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
I kind of picked that one because I was really curious.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
So we'll try to look it up before.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
You Okay, okay, So Trevor, thank you for that one.
Great question.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Deanne Miller. Why does the park open so late in
the day.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah, this is something that we've heard a lot. Yeah,
it's it's exclusively really because of our maintenance team having
going around and doing a very thorough check of all
of our rides every day. They get here at three
in the morning to start their checks, and if we
had opened any earlier, they had had to get here

(10:30):
even earlier than that. And then you then you're starting
to play with sunlight and all that stuff. So safety,
safety and all that stuff. Yeah, safety is the reason
that we open at eleven. There are sometimes where we
open at ten. If someone books what's called the roller
coaster Alley, you can do that with a group and
it's like an exclusive early entry into the park. You
can book that with our group sales team. But that

(10:52):
is is the one exception where we will open a
little bit earlier and you but you have exclusive right.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'm on some of our main attractions.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Which is awesome.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
So yeah, so book that if you got a group,
that's something to think about.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
You want to get here a little bit earlier.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
And I think we might have answered this question with
our intro. But Christine wants to know. Is the original
magician back at Silverwood this year? Nick Norton is Backmick
Norton is back, and he is going to be in
our big drop here.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Stay too, you hear all about it, Stay tuned.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
So I think we should call this week's loyal listener
and give him a chance to finally pick that sounder
out of We've been trying to get the winner from
this forever.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
It could be the week.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
It could be the week.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I see.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, I'm hoping, I'm hoping. So let's give him a call. First,
we have to generalize our number. Is that the word
general generate?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Maybe see if it's a general number or not.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, Okay, I go, we have a winner, all right?
I'm being told number four forty one is our winner.
So what do you say we give him a call? Hi,
this is Sarah and Jordan with the Silverwood Show Podcast

(12:09):
here at Silverwood Theme Park. And you signed up to
be a loyal listener. Might have disconnected though, did we
have these problems? He might not have been able to
hear us. Okay, let's try to get let's try him again.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Hate Tim.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Sarah and Jordan back with the silver Wood Show Podcast.
I think we got disconnected.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Kay.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I am so good and.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I'm so glad we were able to get ahold of
you because I just wanted to stay right off the
bat go koogs.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I know he has a question about a certain type
of beer that he'd like to see out in the park.
And I'm a fellow coog here, so I was pretty
excited to see that you were the one that was
randomly just drawn today. So, yeah, you're going to win
two tickets to the park, and we're also going to
play a little game with you if you have a

(13:01):
couple minutes. Yeah, I do, okay, and you're gonna be
on this week's episode of the podcast. So we're gonna
pay a little game and you're gonna have the chance
to win upwards of seventy five dollars in silverwood cash
to bring when you get to the park to pick
up your ticket. So the first game is a game

(13:21):
of true or false, So you get a fifty percent
chance on everything I say to potentially get it right
and win five dollars per question.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
So that's twenty five dollars, twenty five dollars total for
that one.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, and then we're going to play a sounder and
you are going to have the chance to guess what
ride that sounder?

Speaker 5 (13:39):
All right, and that's worth an extra fifty dollars. So
if you get everything right, you have seventy five dollars
in the bank.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
But no matter what, you need to take your ticket.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
You'll get the tickets no matter what.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
So just saying okay, cool, okay, all.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Right, Tim are you ready?

Speaker 6 (13:53):
I am ready?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
All right? True or false?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
You have you have to walk up a mountain trail
to get to Avalanche Mountain.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
True dollars, got five dollars in the bank, Go Coogs.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Every time you get it right, you get to go Coogs.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm from Seattle, I'm a Husky fan. I'm sorry, not.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Even talking to him right now.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I don't. I just won't talk anymore.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay, your second statement, true or false? The bunny in
the magic show is named Gustavo.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
Last summer, my sister is friends with the magician.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Oh no, true job job, yes, and actually, don't worry.
You weren't supposed to really know that because it's this year.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, throwing out.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
The yes unless you've been here the first two weekends.
That was the only way that you would know that.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
But something to look forward to, because Masava is quite cute,
So all right, question number three, While true or false
number number three magician Nick Norton is the founder's oldest son.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Gosh, I'm gonna call my sister. Can I phone a friend?
Because the first two I guess say false?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Good job. He's actually the youngest.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yes he is, so.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
I was guessing the.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, there's there's a few family members out here.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
It nice to work. You're killing it all right, because
I don't think I told.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
You before fifteen dollars. We're gonna have to edit this
one a lot.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
You're not editing anything, Jordan, Okay.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Silverwood's name came from North Idaho's landscape of silver mines.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
And woodlands.

Speaker 6 (15:54):
Gosh, that sounds like yes, that sounds like a true job.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
You are on it right now. Okay, I love it.
And that's another cougar.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
First down there you go.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
Okay, that's great.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
I got the keys jingling for you right now, Kim, okay,
imagine the keys are jingling. There's a birdhouse on site
that is themed after the Victorian coffee house on Main Street.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
True or false?

Speaker 7 (16:21):
Man, then oh gosh, I've drank coffee then Victorian house
many times.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
True.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Oh yeah, my gosh. Five for five, five for five. Okay,
you got twenty five dollars in the bank.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Let's the person to ever get all five? Right? Just
so you know, no way, So nice work now mentally
prepare yourself. Tim.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I want you to the sounder. And oh then, Jordan,
you explained. I'll explain the sounder. So we have a
sound bite coming.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
It is a ride in Silverwood or Boulder Beach, and
I'm going to give you all the guesses that have
been wrong which ride this is. So we've had guesses
that our thunder Canyon. We had a guess that was
the log Flume. We had a guess that was bumper boats.
We had a guess that was Tremors. We had a
guess that was Eagle Hunt. We had a guess that
was the Racer and the wavepool. Those are all of

(17:17):
our guesses. They've all been wrong. So well, exactly, we're
whittling down. So here comes your sound. Okay, do you

(17:41):
know what ride that is?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's a.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
That's a group ride. It's not thunder Canon. What's that
one that we wrote.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (17:57):
Is it Avalanche Fountain?

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah? We did.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Good. I knew you were the one.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Oh my gosh, you guy.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
I felt it.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Seventy five dollars in the bank plus two tickets to
come out to the park.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
You are just the best representation. Oh wow, I am
so proud right now to be a coop. You can
just sit over there.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I am proud to be in this moment too.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
The fact that it was whittled down so much really
help because I would have said thunder Canyon.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, that's the modest on top of wow, So.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I would throw out some words, but I'm going to
just apply. Good job.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
That's so amazing, So go paint the town. Chris Crimson.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I'm going to call you back here in just a
few minutes and I'll let you know how you can
get your tickets and all of that from what you
call fantastic.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Thank you so much. This is awesome, Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
You'd like to say, tim, Oh.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
My daughters are gonna love it. And you know it's
anytime we can get out there. We get out there.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Well you'll have to write Avalanche down to celebrate, yeah,
and then get a funnel caick or something.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yes, exactly, Yes, there, he knows what's up.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
He knows what's up.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
All right, Well, we will see at the park this
summer and I'll give you a call here momentarily.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
I love it. Well on that we did it. We
finally did it.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Sorry for everybody who's whose ears we probably blew out when.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
We yelled at really exciting related super peaked.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
When we got that answer. But what that means is
that next time we're gonna have to do a sound bite.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Start now, Yeah, are we dropping the money down? Are
we going to keep it the same?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I think we'll probably keep it up fifty and keep
it at fifty.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
It's tough, but we'll have a different sound bite on
the next show.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
All right, Well, I think it's time to bring in
our special guest and kick things all with the big drop.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
Truck.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
And we are back with this week's very special guest.
You've seen him in our Theater of Illusion, and I
know a lot of you might have been missing him
a little bit last year. But he is back. He's
better than ever with a brand new show this year.
Everybody welcome Nick Norton, our resident. And I asked him magician, illusionist, Gypsy's.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Dad, but all three, all of them.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah, yeah, So there you go. So Heinik, how are
you good?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
How you guys doing.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
We're doing pretty good.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
So for those who might not know your background here
at the park, go to and tell us like a
little brief intro about who you are, how long you've
been here, all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I grew up in a theme park. Yeah, and then
I used to hang around all the shows because that
was pretty much my favorite part. Yeah, and then I
started working for the shows. I was doing the technical side,
running the curtain, and then I eventually started running the
light and soundboard. But back in my day, we had
one spotlight and a couple of tape cassets and you'd

(21:04):
roll the you know, you get it all dialed in
and then you'd roll the little wheel back with your
finger and then put it back in. It's good times,
sounds fun.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, things have changed, yes.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh yes, you'd come a long way, but yeah. And
then it was kind of I got into it on
a on a dare the magic thing, and it was
the best decision ever made.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
How'd that happen? Tell me about this, Dare?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Oh? I was working for a magician at the time,
and we were probably towards the end of the season,
and he would you'd always come up to me before
the show, It's like, what's my motivation? Why am I
going out there? I'm like, because it's the best job
in the world. And he's like, what do you think
You think you could do it? And I was like, yeah,
give me a shot, And so I did his whole
act word for word, and I was like, this is

(21:46):
so much fun. It's freaky.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, that's how that happened. What year was that, Oh, man,
let's go we're talking ninety eight nine, late nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
And then from there, I mean, I know you went
down to Vegas and had Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
So I went to Lance Burton's magic show at the
Monte Carlo and I think I was about eighteen years
old or something in there. And at the end of
the show, I went to the magic shop because I
was like, he was producing these cards on his you know,
fingertips during the shows, Like what is I've never seen
it before. And so I go in the magic shop
and I'm asking the guy behind the counter, you know,

(22:21):
how does he make those cards produce, you know, from
his fingertips. And this guy taps me on the shoulder.
He's like, you want to know how to do the
card manipulation and it's Lance Burton. I'm like, hey, hi, Lance,
And so he directed me towards these vhs. There's this
whole thing before DVDs, these VHS tapes of a magician
by the name of Jeff McBride who's just the card

(22:42):
manipulation master. And so after, you know, I think I
was on a boat and we went around the Caribbean
for a while and I just devoured those tapes, destroyed them.
They didn't work by the time I was. We came
back and I just had it down. I was, And
that was the beginning. Yeah. From there, I just was
flicking cards all over. The key is to have like

(23:04):
a bowl of like a salad bowl of tossed cards.
And when you're on the phone with somebody, did not
sound distracted as you're playing with them?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Interesting I'm and tricks.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, yeah, so many different things.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, So No Vegas was good. I got to apprentice
for a lot of really big time magicians. So apprenticing
for Jeff McBride, I finally met him, and then he
had this school called master Class. So I went to
a bunch of those and then eventually just moved down
there and then I would drive them all over town
take them to all these other gigs. But at the
master Class he had all these other amazing magicians come

(23:37):
in and teach. So I got to meet and unfortunately,
if I meet you and your famous magician, you will
die shortly thereafter.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Oh no, yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Shanning Pollock, Billy McComb, Eugene Burger, Jerry Kane, God rest
all of their souls.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
And this is not because you saw them in a half.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
No, No, I just seemed to be meeting them at
the very tail end of theirs.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
You're just passing on the magic.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, but something the Channing Pollock, he invented card manipulation
from and he used to those white gloves, like the
very classical white glove magicians. But he had to wear
those gloves because he was in World War Two, which
I believe he explained is the last of the fun wars.
He would wear those gloves and do the cardinip. These

(24:22):
are his combat gloves. And so that kind of translated
into the white glove magician that you're interested. Yeah, pretty
wide stuff.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
So when you're when you're an apprentice, what does that?
What does that mean? What what do you what are
you learning during that time?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
So you're basically helping the magician do his job, perform,
so that whether it's like going to get laundry, driving
him to and from the events, getting the car out
of valet, watching the car you're an intern, yes, yes, yes,
And then they just you know, slowly slipped these little uh,
these little gems out like, oh, here's how you do

(24:54):
this trick. Ah, this was this trick was invented over here,
and here's why then boo boom boom. And the more
you hang out with these people, the more you just
just listen and learn.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yet are they actively like training you or is it
really more like you're kind of doing the grunt work
and just like soaking up as much as you can
on the side.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
You do a lot of the grunt work. But like
I said, then every once in a while they'll stop
and you'll get that moment yeah, no, thank you, and
then or they'll say learn this and get back to me. Right.
So when you're done doing all the work, you go
home and you practice that up and then hey, you
want to see it, be like not right now? All right,
you wait a little bit longer, Hey, you ready, no,

(25:34):
and finally you'll do the effect and then they'll be like, okay,
move your hand this way. These are the site lines
you're looking for and really cool stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
So what is the number one like take away that
you took away from any of your apprenticeships or any
of your time down in Vegas? What did you take
away that you brought back here that you see in
a guest can see in every show that you do.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
The number one thing is to not hide behind all
of the tricks because the original I always have a
tendency to go way too fast, and it's just because
you want to perform all these tricks because I want
the audience to like me so much and then the
one thing I learned is if they like you as
a person, then whatever you do magically, you know, whatever

(26:19):
kind of effects you pull off or more enjoyable because
they're like, I know that guy, I'd hang out with
that person. So that's why I go out before the
show ten minutes early for the pre show show, because
it just gives us a chance to hang out. Right,
It's just a little little time to be real before
the smoke and lights and everything go. Yeah, go off.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
So, I mean, I've seen a number of your shows obviously.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
But.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
How do you think you've seen Jordan over time?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Quite a few.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
I don't know if I've seen probably more than nixt
scene of his own show. So, but what I know,
when you're in that pre show show mode, you see
a lot of people that are coming back. Oh god, yes,
Why do you think people are coming back? And is
it that that interaction point before and after the show

(27:09):
that you think draws people to the show?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Oh, the meet and greet afterwards? Yes, okay, So I'll
recognize people that have come to the show when they
were kids and they've grown up and now they have
brought their kids. Cool and so we've stepped into this
new realm of like being a member of the family.
I've watched their kids grow and then it's I don't know,

(27:33):
it's just some kind of a community that we've kind
of developed. I know when certain people are in the audience,
I might push the show this direction for them. Gosh,
the Classic Car Show guys like, no matter what, I'll
have to put the floating table back in the show.
If he's in the audience, it's like, all right, I'll
go get it. Coaster enthusiasts love those guys, and they've

(27:55):
you know, what do we calling the coaster enthusiast of America?
What's there? A? Yeah? Yeah, those guys are rowdy.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Lots of different groups, and you know, some of them
just keep coming back at particular times, Like there's certain
groups that just rent the park, so you'll know what
to expect. I love the people that come at the
end for our Classic Car Show. I recognize when you
go out and go out for the pre show and
you recognize eighty percent of the people.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, hey, guys, it's going to be a good show.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And that's why that's why I'm super stoked about this year,
because we wanted to do because Normally every year you'll
you'll get you know, some money, and you you put
in a couple of new pieces and then try and
change the flow a little bit, give them something new.
But this year we wanted to take a giant leap,
just so you know, it was fresh. Yeah, and we
did and tell.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Us a little bit about it, tell us about what
our guests can expect this year.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well, it was once again kind of an accident, right,
happy little accident, Bob Ross status. We had an assistant
the show last year, Lucy Cherypotta, and she was into
this area art stuff, which I've never heard of. I mean,
I've seen circusle in Vegas. In fact, I was kind
of so that's kind of I really haven't pushed into

(29:08):
the circus area at all. Because in the late nineties
there was a lot of magicians. You had sig Freedom Roy,
you had Lance Burton, you know, all the strip was
basically either review shows or a magician. Right, and then
Cirk came in with our first show, Mistaire at Treasure Island,
and that just then Cirk just took over, right, It

(29:29):
took over every single venue and now everybody's got a
Cirk show. So I was like circus sacks, right. So
but then last season, Lucy I needed to eat up
some time in the show because I throw my McCall gypsy.
I throw her and then I catch her. Well, she's
not trained to go up on anybody else, so I
have to walk off the stage and put her in

(29:50):
the cage, give her a treat, and then come back out.
Well that's like a ten second to twenty second dead time,
because sometimes you know she wants to play. So Lucy's like,
I can do my Lira hoop and I'm like, what
is a Lira hoop? And it was just it's just
like a giant metal hoop that she's like like a
hula hoop, but she hang it vertically and we have

(30:11):
all the gear for flying stuff at the time there
for that, and so I was like, okay, we'll put
that in the show while I'm doing this, and I
was like, well, how do I integrate that in the show.
So we like produced Gypsy through the hoop, and then
I went off and then she did her Lira routine
and I was just my jaw at the floor. It
was amazing. So I looked into more aerial artists type things,
and there's ropes, there's silks, and then it was just like, okay,

(30:33):
let's just do a circus theme show, you know, Doctor
Cosmos under the Big Top. Fun time, right, And so
then I wanted music to be a really big part
of the show as well. I mean it always is,
but I don't so. Way back in the north end
of the park, before the water park was built, we
had an ice show and in that ice show, we
had an actual pipe organ, which was fascinating and it

(30:54):
was a really cool show. He was Jack Frost and
when he'd played the pipe organ, all the toys and
the toy shop would come to live being then sky
and it just it was awesome. But then as soon
as we built a water park, nobody wanted to go
to an ice rink because it was really cold. Yeah,
so that kind of faded off, and I just really thought,
you know, Doctor Cosmos needs a new element, right, another layer,

(31:18):
because every you know, we're just trying to add layers.
And so we built a pipe organ in his lab
and now he uses music to, you know, channel the
power of the universe. It's really it's it's fun. I
like it, and it's a throwback. The pipe organ is
I don't know if anybody remembers, but it was really fun.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Yeah, I'm sure there's lots of people I hear all
the time like bring back the Ice Show, bring Back
the I Show.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I was like, well, it's kind of blood by you
right now, but.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, I just I just walked through the other day
with my kids. She loves walking through the haunts when
they're not open, because she's not really ready for when
I opened. Actually she did last year, but some of
the animatronks are still on.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
They are always on.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I got I got pretty scared. I got spooked. We
went in there a couple of days ago and we're
walking through and by the coat rack, one of them
went off just loud too.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, it's really loud right after the dining room. That's
a good scared, especially when you think everything's off exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, that was a I'm glad we did scary.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Would It was nice seeing your daughter as well in
one of the shows this week, and not so much
in it, but front row. You know, I know that
one of the guests that we had in the marketing
department just thought that was the coolest thing that your
daughter was there. So that kind of brings back the
whole family kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Oh wait till you meet my h wait till you
meet my little Princess Carson. Yeah, he's the same age
as my daughter. Yeah, and he you know, we did
the meet and greets after the show and this lady
comes up. She's like, my kid would like to show
you a magic trick. And I was like, oh okay,
and he just busts out my entire card manipulation routine
that took me twenty years to learn, wow, and did

(32:54):
it flawlessly.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
And he's like eleven.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah at the time, he was eleven. Yeah, And so
I was like, all right, he can be my apprentice,
and we he would send me videos of some of
his routines. His mom waul record it, send it to me,
and then I'd email back, all right, do it like this,
you know, turn his shoulder out here, and been doing
that for like a year, and he's he's basically they
built a set of like a recreation of my theater

(33:18):
in the garage. Wow, and do the entire show. Like
when we made the Harley appear, you know, a couple
of years ago. He would make a bicycle appear with
method we're doing like the dancing hanky. He his you know,
his dad would build the dancing hanky rig And so
now they come to the show and the whole family

(33:38):
comes backstage, and anything new, right, you'll see it being
performed in his garage within a week.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Busy charge for admission. Kid probably the podcast there.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, I put him up on stage regularly when he
comes out, because that's another thing I learned from my
mentors is the best way to learn is to get
out there and the you know, on the front lines,
and just get out there and do it. Yeah, and
theme park magic is the front lines of magic, you do.
I think I've done over ten thousand shows now. Yeah,
So it's it's if you're going to break in some

(34:12):
new material, go to a theme park because not everybody's
there to watch a magic show yet. I really I
like the families that keep coming back. But I also
really like people that have never seen the show before.
And when you do the pre show show, they think
what is this? What's going on? And then when the
curtain opens and you just you know, go for the
entrance of it all, and yeah, I enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
So I mean, going back to your first show at Silverwood,
do you remember your first show and that went no, Yes,
how would go?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I had stage fright for like five years. Yeah, that
was a thing. Well, because it's not like I will.
You know, I grew up as a child going I'm
going to be a magician one day. I knew I
was going to be a comedian at one point, but
about a magician, but so I had Yeah, I had
stage fright for a long time, but then it finally
went away when I started doing like the shows. Yeah

(35:01):
that just after that. I've just I enjoy it. I
can't think of a life without performing.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
So what what do you think you have improved the
most since that very first show to where you are today?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
To slow down, down, slow down, Yes, don't run when
no one's chasing you.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
That's a good that's a good quote.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah. Oh I've got so many quotes from my mentors.
He used to make me write them down. Cool, So
I always had a I still have that journal. Actually,
that's great.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Do you have any other ones that you continue to
think through?

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, there will always be a situation where one pops up.
I in fact, my assistant last year would be writing
them down. All these old you know zingers that I
had she had a whole log of them. It was like,
read them back to me. I'm like, oh my god,
yeah those are them. That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
And so now you have Tanner Andrews is really your
apprentice and going through that process, I guess what have
you taken from your apprentice to to push him further?
But also what have you changed to not not have
it be like this intern where they're just trying to
get in front of you.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Sure. So last year it was interesting because I wanted
to we wanted to get an apprentice, so I didn't.
I couldn't go seven days a week. Again, that is
it's a tall order. It's not the end of the world,
but I want to spend more time with my kid, right,
So I needed apprentice. And Tanner was stage teching for me.
Him and his dad used to come see my show.

(36:24):
You know, I'm just like all his families just hundreds
of times. And so he wanted a job. I was like, yeah,
you could be a stage tech. And then I was like, well,
I need an apprentice, so hey, do you want to
try this magic thing? So same way it was dropped
on me, exact same way. I was like, you know what,
let's see if he'll he'll do He's like yeah, sure.
So I was like all right, and just like my
mentors taught me, I'm like, okay, first, grab that broom,

(36:45):
let's get this cleaned up. Here's how you do a
lapulse spread. Here's how you spring the cards right, and
then get back at me. No, I don't want to
see it right now. No I don't want to see
it right now. Okay, show me. So the same exact
type of thing, and I made him learn the more
advanced stuff, so I really kind of was hard on him.
It's like, no, you need to learn these false cuts

(37:06):
and false shuffles. They're the most difficult. But if you
can do this, then all these things down the line,
you'll won't even have a problem.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
So he's had a heck of a crash course, and
then of course he was pushed out of the nest
early last year because I had, you know, several amazing injuries.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Do you want to elaborate on that at all? Because
I do know, just.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Covering reviews and things like that, and a lot of
people asking where you were, and this year people writing
in saying is he back?

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Is he back? So explanation, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
So at the beginning of the season last year. I
think it was it's like opening weekend rehearsals, just leading
up to it, and I hit my knee in one
of the props. And when you're doing the you know,
when you're prepping a show, there's just so much going on.
You're trying to think, You're You're worried about sound cues
and is everybody in the right spot, is that costume
going to work over here? And all this. So I

(37:57):
didn't really pay attention to it. But I had a
small little in the hole in the top of my knee.
That was it. And so you know, at night, I I,
you know, I looked at it and I was like, oh,
it's not bleeding, but there's a hole there. And then
the next day it was about the size of a
half dollar. And then the hole the like inflames around it.
And then we did shows because there's no sick days

(38:22):
in the shows, right, you're either out in the hospital
or you're on that stage. And yeah, put it this way.
I ended up in the hospital for five days with
a staff infection. It's it went all the way up
my leg. I almost lost the legs. Yes, we Yeah,
that was a rough one. Five days in there, lots

(38:43):
of MRI surgery. But then Tanner had to go do
his thing and I couldn't even be there to help him.
I was in the hospital just staring at the ceiling.
So it was it was a it was a weird feeling,
you know, not just the leg It was I was
really worried about my kid, yeah, doing it. And so
then he, you know, trial by fire. He went out

(39:04):
there and brave guy. He's one of the bravest people
I know, no kidding.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I mean, like, because how long had he been really
doing magic.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Like full dress rehearsals, I mean.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Even learning that from their very first.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Oh six months, right, It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I don't even realize that. Yeah, yeah, he did great.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
So anybody that saw that show last year, I mean
that is incredible.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, so he really poured it on, which I thought
was awesome, But so he didn't really get a chance
to put his own style on it though. Yet we're
still trying to find I mean that's the when you're
first starting in magic, finding out who you are as
a magician is the most difficult part of it. But
that you know, just to a theme park show and
give it about ten thousand shows. You'll get there, you'll

(39:49):
find something. Yeah. So then fast forward through the season.
I'm back right and we're doing our thing, and then
I'm in this compressor illusion last year where I get
squished and not to give away too much of how
the illusion works, but why not. I don't have that
one anymore, right, Oh it's in. Yeah, this one got me.
So it's supposed to look like I'm laying in it,

(40:11):
and then I get squished up to like a little
one foot size magician. But your body's actually not in
that position. So I had to crank my head back
to make it look like I was laying in that
position to sell the effect. Well, it's not the most
ergonomic position to be in. And one show I heard
this pop in my neck and I was like, what
was that? And then later that night I paint as

(40:32):
one of my little hobbies, and I'm painting and my
hand would numb and I'm like, I can't move my
left hand. What is that? And we have this friend
of the family, doctor Bob. Everybody needs a retired surgeon
as a friend of the family, right, and he goes,
is there a pain in your neck at all? I
was like, uh yeah, says you probably rupture a disc.

(40:52):
You need to get an MRI like now, or that
will be permanent, you will not be able to move
your hand. I'm like, well, there goes my career. Yeah,
so really good surgeons got a hold of me. And
what was funny is going into Cootney Medical to get
MRIs with your own surgeon with you. Yeah. I'm like, sure,
you can't be here, and he pulls out his credentials.
He's like, oh, he's the head surgeon there for like

(41:13):
thirty forty years and then now he teaches all the
new surgeons. And so the MRI technician goes, do you
normally just go to the hospital with a surgical team.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
I was like yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, I know someone, so I owe that guy. He
saved me. So yeah, they put a plate in there.
So now I've got new hardware. Yeah, and backing a
car is interesting. I can't shoulder a phone. But what
was kind of what good came out of it is
I had to do a lot of physical therapy once
I could finally work out again, and I had to
slowly work back in and so I've been taking my

(41:45):
apprentice and we've been hitting the gym solid all winter
long to be ready for a long season.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
So that's so funny because I saw Tanner standing by
the train tracks the other day and I was like,
what you waiting for hitchhiking a ride and he's like.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Yeah, Nick to take me to the gym. And I
thought he was like joking.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I didn't know he was being serious, that he was
legitimately looking for you.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Well, and can you talk about like just the endurance
that it takes to be a magician.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
People probably don't realize how much it takes.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Well, the there's a lot of what's called dynamic tension,
so you're you're you're hitting these posins and whatnot, and
then throw adrenaline on top of that. So we don't
have to do as much cardio now that the season started, Yeah,
because the show will do most of that for us. Yeah,
but also, you know, being forty five years old, i
am producing the show. I was like, you know what,

(42:36):
right about halfway through this show, I'm going to have
a scene that's just Doctor Cosmos and the aerial artists
and I'm going to sit one out and it works.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
The first time you've probably you've done this, right.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Never done it before, and it's I think it's great.
It's another dynamic level. I look at a show when
i'm writing it in terms of peaks and valleys. Okay,
you want to you want to come up in a
couple of apexes and bring them down in here for
a moment. You gotta have your oo a it. This
is the first year I've worked with bunnies though, and
I got to tell you, what have I been waiting
for whole audience?

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, every time?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yes, that guy is awesome too, minus the fur everywhere.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
I think that's such a great part though, because every
single time I've seen it and you're blowing the fur
off of you.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
That's a real bunny.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yep, that's a real bony. Is adorable. And I'm working
with the youngest. I never ever picked kids that young
because they're so unpredictable and I like reliability. Well no,
maybe I do like a little chaos because they're funny.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
It's so funny.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
And I give a kid a six foot cattle prod
it actually works. The parents look at me.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Like, what, Yeah, where's the release?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
I love it. It's my It's actually my newest favorite
part of the show. And we put it right at
the top, so that one's fun. Our elephant is a
lot of fun. Not to give too much away, don't
have too many spoilers, but do you have an elephant
circus show? After all?

Speaker 4 (44:00):
The top an elephant? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (44:02):
So, I mean the kid moment reminds me so much
of kids, say the dartist things because it's it is
so unpredictable. But really, I mean that is the show
of the that even that set that bit. I mean
it is watching that kid and like they're complete, like
oblivious notion of.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
What's going on.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
They have no idea.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
So can you tell me about, like where you get
ideas from for your illusions? Where where does all that
kind of come from?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
That one came from a David Copperfield illusion from the seventies, wow,
maybe the early eighties depending on the shoulder pads, somewhere
in there. But he used to have a duck named Webster,
and he did a transposition bit with his duck and
I was like, oh, duck, not really circus themed. And
then originally I was going to take and I had
these little lines mains to put on the bunnies, but

(44:48):
then they just flick flick it off. They hated it.
Oh yeah, I'm not going to make them more a
lions man. They're cute enough as bunnies, so that that
kind of came from there. You know, David Copperfield gets
a lot agree from a magician, but I still think
he's the best of the best. That guy he invented
the game, right, Yeah, But I don't know, I've got

(45:10):
a lot of mentors and a lot of magic to
draw from, and so I'll take a little piece of
that you know, illusion over here and a little bit
from here. I just put this passion piece in the
show last weekend with like razor blades. It was you know,
Houdini bit mixed with a Eugene Burger candle and restored bit.
And we're still working the bugs out of that one.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
So I have to ask, is that like a metaphor
for what happened to you last year?

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah? I kind of wanted to make a piece to
this kind of show. You know, Yeah, life could be
pretty tough, but just climb the walls back on her.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
So yeah, it was going to be a little on
the nose. I was going to produce a dove at
the end. It was like, this is getting kind of
corny all over the top, So we pulled it back
a bit.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
So what would you say is your favorite part about
this new this new show.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Well, the aerial artists definitely add a layer. And the
fact that we were like, you know what, let's do
it out over the out legal what are we looking
like like this? Okay, it's not technically over the audience,
but it's close. We have to warn the front row
please don't stand up.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
It can't hurt.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Uh So we put it right on top of him,
and we have our contortionist. Brittany is in the show
now and she brings dance background as well. Uh so
you can tell she's been trained in line form and
dimension and all that. So putting all these things together
is the fun part. That's where I get it kind
of you know, if I see somebody it's got a
particular talent, well we're going to pull that out and
highlight that, you know. And so Tandrew this year, I

(46:34):
like to get back on our Tanner Andrews. There's that's
his celebrity name. So Tanner Andrews this year, we're gonna
do it a little differently because, like I said, last year,
uh he just had to immediately, you know, perform. So
he was doing my script like word for word, which

(46:55):
is it's a great starting point. But this year we're
it's the same show, but we're writing a whole new
script for him so he can have his his own
version of it.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, and when is he gonna be performing?

Speaker 2 (47:07):
As soon as we hit June? This is going to
be the guy that gives me days off or god forbid,
knock on wood, Yeah, get injured again. But no, we've
learned a lot from the personal trainers on how to
stretch before shows as Yeah, we're at that part in
our life when I should probably start stretching.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Yeah, I feel you, Yes, I mean I think the
natural progression of like what is your favorite part of
the show, too, Like what do you want the audience
to take away from when they leave your show?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Sure? Well, I definitely don't want him to think they
just saw a magic show, right, because there's a lot
of typical magic shows out there, and we've pride ourselves
on having like Doctor Cosmos is this oracle character and
you know, trying to take science and magic and intertwine it.
And then it's like, you know, we need another layer.
So now it's Doctor Cosmos and the music thing. And

(48:00):
I just hope that when you leave the theater you
feel like you've been thoroughly entertained one and two, that
you want to come back and see it because there's
so many different things happening. Because people do come back
and see it a lot. Yeah, oh yeah, some parents.
I feel sorry for the kids. Keep paying.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
How you do that's right there though, right.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Or the season pass holders that you know, they drop
their kids at the park and they're at one hundred
and thirty seven shows. Okay, we're doing this again. Yeah,
so I'd like to keep it fresh for those guys too. Well.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
The coaster enthusiast next to me this weekend, he he
was just mind blown. I mean, here's a man in
his forties and just he's like, I feel like I
just took drugs. It's in the best way probably, yeah,
the best way possible. He's like, how did he do it?
And I was like, no, no, you'll never know. But
he was mesmerized and buy what you did on that stage?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Well there's one reaction.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, there you go, got that one.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Where where does your show go to in the future
years down the road? Where where are you progressing towards.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
So a bigger theater. Of course, we definitely need a
bigger theater. I'd like to push the Doctor Cosmos character
to a point to where because I I can't do
it forever. You got my new apprentice, Tanner Andrews, you know, Carson,
my young apprentice. So Doctor Cosmos is going to be
the kind of glue that holds everything together. So you

(49:30):
could put any kind of an act on there and
he can interact, and Doctor Cosmos will be the constant
type of a thing there. Like I said, you can
have a juggler act in the show and Doctor Cosmos
could be like, yes, the science of catching themes.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
You can see it now.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Yeah, I wonder who plays Doctor Cosmos always.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
I've had to do it live before. So just like
hold my hand on my face and be like, oh, yes,
you will find it experiment it's fun.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Yeah, I honestly didn't know yeah until it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Actually, that's good, that's the goal exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I hear my voice all over the park. It's yeah,
you'll I'll uh because I live in the park right
across the runway there, so I'll hear when stunt pilot's
going ye oh, that's me.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
You're on the train.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, I wanted somebody on the train. You're
the sheriff on the train. I am, You're the sheriff. Okay,
and then a lot of please remove any hats, sunglasses,
loose change.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
You were on my training video too the other day.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Oh boy, boy.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Oh that's scary. Way. You have to listen to Sergeant
Buzz all night.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
But planet Zombie, yeah, planet Zombie.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
That was a thing. That was a thing. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Well, I think we need to move into a game
that we're going to play.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
We're going to play a game with you, and this
is the game. It's called let's play Silverwood Feud. It's
called Silverwood Feud. It's a new game that we're gonna play.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
So, you know how in Family Feud, at the very
end they play fast Money, which is like a twenty
second thing where they they say we took one hundred
surveys and then they ask you questions. You have twenty
seconds to basically top of mind type thing.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Boy.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
So we're gonna randomly generate who you're gonna play against.
You're gonna play against me or Sarah? Okay, already pre
selected this, and this is what is gonna be. It's
like Mortal Kombat style. Who you're gonna play against? Jordan,
You're playing against.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
I'm giving you the question, So, uh, Nick, you're gonna
go first.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
I'm gonna take off my headphones and put on some
noise canceling headphones.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Get the same questions, You get the same questions, so
I can't hear.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
And then Amanda is gonna tally up the answers and
give us the scores and we'll see who wins.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
This is.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Doing this, yes in theory, so yes, So I am
there any things? Because I know you know how to
tell people at the beginning of a new show, you know,
is there any you know, hang on.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
To your buttons.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah, I'm going to put on these.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
Headphones and I'm going to play some music in my
ears so that no one knows, so I can't hear
what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
So I can trust that you're actually doing that.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah, I can't really even hear you right now.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
That's great, that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Okay, Okay, I can't hear you, but I have to.
I have to stop so I can actually talk to you.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
When after you read the first question, is when we
will give the twenty second timer.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Okay, and he gets twenty seconds for the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
It's twenty seconds for the whole thing. So all ten questions,
so it's.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Got to be it's real quick. Okay, we're ready, So
I will watch.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Your lips, I guess and press the button when Okay,
I am going to start my music.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Go ahead, name, I must write attraction at silver Weed
after what wouldn't you want to drop on a roller
coaster phone?

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Name a right at.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Silverwood that is perfect for little kids?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Tiny two?

Speaker 3 (53:09):
What right do you think is the most iconic in
the park, timber chair? What is the tastiest treat to
buy at Silverwood?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
The salted cornormels in the candy store Sea salt cornramel?
Oh good lord, nay?

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Would gift you may buy for someone who did not
come to the park?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Sweats is.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (53:29):
We got through about half of them.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Okay, you're gonna put those on and we're gonna keep playing. Okay,
all right?

Speaker 2 (53:35):
What song is this?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
This is uh, you'll recognize it.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (53:42):
What song is.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
That's?

Speaker 1 (53:45):
That's the song?

Speaker 4 (53:47):
I figured it was going to be the.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Burn, the little journey going on right now.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Okay, so I'm doing the same one.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Same questions. Okay, Okay, I'm.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Ready, okay and go.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Nama must write attraction at Silverwood stunt pilot. What wouldn't
you want to drop on a roller coaster?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Cell phone?

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Name us ride at Silverwood that's perfect for little kids?

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Train?

Speaker 3 (54:13):
What ride do you think is the most iconic in
the park tremor What is the tastiest treat to buy
at Silverwood?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Ice Cream?

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Name a gift you may buy for someone who did
not come to the park.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Oh wow, sweatshirt.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Okay, you guys both got to the same.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
We got to the same. Okay, we're good.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
We both made it through six.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Yeah, we both both made it through six. Well, we
might have need to have a longer time.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
That was fast, So okay, now we're a man is
adding up our scores, Amanda, let me know when you
are ready.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Do we have different answers or did we have some?

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I wasn't listening to either of you because I was
so just read the questions so great, so it will
be a surprise for me as well. I mean, I
did hear yourself a carmel thing because you got very
like you felt that I.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Can tell why you were like explaining things. I'm like,
I don't know what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Some really random stuff. This little girl had a popsicle
and I was like, oh, did you get that from
the cane store? She's like yep. I'm like, what's inside
of ants?

Speaker 7 (55:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Yeah, enjoy those ants?

Speaker 4 (55:23):
They have the crickets and stuff in there.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
There's like a scorpion one too, Yeah, you eat scorpions. Well,
I don't know if.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
You're supposed to eat what's inside, but it's more just
a look.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I think maybe you can't.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
I thought you were supposed to eat it.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
You might.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
And they even have the little little cigar Leo things.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Yeah, cret story Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Well, I guess my dad and I bought some last year.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
Fulfiller time. While we wait, we could ask you some
questions about the park. What is your favorite ride?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Favorite ride? After shock wakes me up? He wakes up?

Speaker 4 (55:54):
How many times have you ridden it in a row?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
I can only do two before I get to a
little nauseha, and I can't do anything that spins. I
don't know what's going on. I took the elephant ride
with my kid and I was nauseous for an hour
and a half afterwards, so nothing that spins, so that's out. Yeah.
I like drops, Yeah yeah, I'm all about that. Going
upside down is one thing, but drops are where it's at.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
How many times did you say you could write it
Jordan after Shock?

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I think we said eleven or twelve?

Speaker 5 (56:24):
No, twelve, because I wrote timber Taiar, Yeah, eleven times
in a row doing some interviews, and then Shilah was
on and she said, oh, I could do after Shop twelve.
So now we have this like friendly competition the way
I need to find I wrote it on Saturday, and
after one time I was like, ooh, I don't know
if I could do five.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
So you just see Jordan up there when they're like
facing and he's like.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
So animated.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Remember when fred Fred Grebb he's the guy that built
timber Taiar and trimmers, right I think so yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, Rocky mountain coasters. Yeah. Anyway, so right when
we were doing the test runs on tremors, I got
on the back and and come back into the station.
He's like, oh, Nikki, something's wrong with the lap bars.

(57:09):
I'll get you on the next one, and he sent
me out. He wants have sent me out like fifteen
times basically until I finally vomited. Actually, oh yeah, he's like,
get off now, thanks, Bud nice.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
All right, Oh, we have the answers and well but
not the answer is the score?

Speaker 1 (57:26):
We have the score.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
You're not allowed to look at your own score.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
I know the score, a man, I just told me
what the score was.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
So you get to announce your own winner.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Well, let's see, okay, and the winner is yeah, I won.
It was one thirty nine to one oh seven.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
I had two number one answers and Nick had one
number one answer and what was next one number I
don't know. We're not giving that away because because we
can play this game again, we don't want people to
like that was the number one answer and do it again.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
But this is why you wanted to play me, because
one Jordan wins everything. Well you do wait, I won
once you've won.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I've actually not won a lot of these.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Yeah, yeah, I've come back because he doubts me sometimes. Yeah,
he gets overally confident. So oh but that's our other
happy sound.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
What's this one for ice cream?

Speaker 3 (58:17):
This is you know, ride scoop, and this is your
chance to tell our audience. What your number one super
secret insider tip would be for those coming to Phantasm to.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
The Magic Show.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Yeah, what would if someone for the first time or
the one thousand times, what would you want them to like?
Insider tip? Maybe it's like when to get to the
When to get to the show?

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah, you got to get there early. Seven o'clock is
always my favorite show because you get all these people
that are leaving the water park. They're like, what's this Yeah,
and stumble in and so then you get a yeah crowd.
Yeah energy. The louder you guys are, the it translates
into adrenaline for us. So we put harder, so you're
gonna get a more dynamic show if you're if you're

(59:03):
you know, reciprocating.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
What do you think the best to place in the
theater is.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Center table, center table. My dad's got his own special spot.
He'll go up the bleachers about halfway up to one side.
That's his spot every time. Uh, front row is pretty wild.
This year it's pretty wild, But I like to be
further back because I want to see what's going on.
We have a lot of data, projection mapping, and just
a lot of little details, a lot of layers, love layers. Yeah,

(59:32):
so i'd say halfway down the theater, right in the
center aisle. Yeah, yeah, that table is if they don't
usually let me reserve a table for somebody, but if
you know I've got somebody special coming, I'll try and
hold that one as long as I can. Yeah. But yeah,
and definitely get there early because, like I said, once
we hit June, doors are closed like half an hour
to the show, every single show. We need a bigger theater.

(59:54):
I'm working on it.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Baby steps the great I saw your face when you
came out opening weekend. I don't think you expected it
to be as full, and you've walked in. Your eyes
got real big, and you said a cussword and it
was like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Nick never never never.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
But yeah, it's been that way. It's been packed to
the brims.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
I have a feeling we're going to have a really
busy season.

Speaker 7 (01:00:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
I think so too.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
So Yeah, anything else park wide, as far as tips goes,
I mean you've been sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Yeah, yeah, if you're and this is directed towards the
families right first half of the day, I would definitely
do the dry park. Yeah, and then I would ride
the train because it's a nice segue thirty minutes to
just relax, take in the view, and then hit the
water park for the end of the day. Because after
your water log, you're pretty much done.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
But yeah, that's that's the method to which I would
go to Silverwood. Yeah. I think the best place to
eat for me, best bang for your buck is Chuck
Wegg and John's the Pavilions. Really good food. I mean,
my brother makes it so it's so I've seen it made.
I know it's fresh and everything's really tasty. So that's

(01:01:05):
my spot.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Very nice.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Yeah, I think, I mean we covered enough.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
We covered a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
That was awesome. Thank you for giving us some behind
the scenes. One last thing we tell Gypsy. I said, hello,
I will always what Gypsy's my cows.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I'm actually going to go fly her right now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
She gets to make her laps, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
And I got to see her take a little shower
the other day. Oh, I've never seen such a happy
birds the water.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
She'll spread her wings open the rainforests.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
That's awesome, a little fishbird.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
When I take her out in the rain, she'll become
my umbrella. She'll literally take her wings and just go
over my head and shoulders with it can wrap around
me like as all.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Yeah, I did like the homage.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
To her above the all the stained glass gyps.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Stained glass gypsy. That was the first thing I noticed
when I walked in.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
And yeah, we like to throw a little Easter eggs
in every.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Yeah, she's a very special sweet bird. I don't care
what anybody says, so I'd love to see anyway. That's
all I had, so thanks so much for listening everybody. Nick,
thank you so much for joining us this week, and
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