Rory's Long-awaited Masters Moment, Spurs Season of Change Concludes, & Defending the NBA Play-in Tournament

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
The Sports Cave Live is back. This is the Sports
Cave with Biggest Puma. I am your host, Sam Freeze.
We find ourselves once again, back in the room together,
ten days away.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
From the first round of the NFL Draft.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
As always, if you want to get a hold of
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and I just searched Sam Freeze should be the only

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one there. Used to be the head swimming and diving
coach at the University of Hawaii had my exact name,
which always tripped me out because it's a pretty uncalled.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Have a diver body, you know, if you were.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I did a lot of swimming growing up. I got
my I got my mile swim and boy scouts back
in the day. No, I that always shot my wheels
off because I think there's only like seventeen eighteen hundred
people in the world with my last name, and one
of them actually had something worth googling.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
To find him, so and feel free to talk on
the chat. I'm gonna try to get to y'all during
the show. I'm gonna get a little bit better on
that reading that real time. So feel free if you're
watching us live, chime in. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's it's good that one of us, one of us
pays attention to it, because I do a really bad
job of that.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I will, I'm trying, I will fall on that sword.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
If you missed any of last week's shows, do go
back and give those view. Of course, last Monday was
the NCAA Basketball Championships held here in our fair Birg.
We went live after the championship game last Monday. I
can go watch that on YouTube, and then Wednesday's show,
I had a lot of fun recording with my buddy Toby.

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We finally I finally peeled uh, I finally picked at
the scab that that is. That was the Luca trade.
Of course, last week, Luca making his return to Dallas.
There was plenty of meat on that bone to talk about.
I appreciate again, Toby. It was it was a tearful

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and it wasn't just it wasn't just Mads fans that
were crying. It was Luca himself, So.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
You know, he's like, he's probably one of those sloppy
drunks that get all crying.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh I would imagine, Yeah, no question, he's the he's
the groomsman at the wedding that can't hold his alcohol
down with.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
The eighteen minute best man speech.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh yeah, you know that one time?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
You know, yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Remember, No, y'all, I don't have to tell you y'all
remember y'all were there.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's like no one person was there in this entire room.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
That's why we didn't even do bridesmaid or best man
speeches at are.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I didn't want. I didn't even want to give one.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Of my friends the opportunity to do that exact speech
that you just deder. That's because I didn't wear a
tux I wore.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I wore.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I wore a tucked in flannel uh with with a
with a sports code over. That's the best I could do.
I did get a haircut. I did get a haircut,
but no, uh. Today we're back in the room. During
the main segment, We're gonna of course talk a lot
of masters Rory's historic win and then also wanted to

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you know over the weekend, we had, uh the end
of an era with Spurs basketball. The great Bill Shooning
announced his retirement a couple of weeks ago, a week
ago or so, and of course Spurs played their last
game of the regular season on Sunday. It turned out
to be a really interesting day of basketball league wide

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with all of the play in and playoff ramifications, all
of the different seeding outcomes that were still in play
Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
So a man couldn't even play got his eighteen technical.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, that's still one of the rules. I mean, it
just doesn't. It's obviously not preventing people from actually uh stopping.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Them from doing It's still gonna talk trash. It's still gonna.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Only the NBA would come up with a rule that
literally takes away like it takes their players out of
the product.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, it's like, oh, you got two yellow cars. You
got that's an automatic red game, exactly what we use hands
in this sport, sir. And you know that being said,
I'm not sure it works for soccer either. But we
got Masters, got Spurs in the main segment, and then
we're gonna end that.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I think you organically came up with something last week,
kind of ending the show with some quick hits in
a in a bit of a lightning round style, because
anytime I fill out one of these run sheets, it's
there are so many things that just get left on
the cutting room floor, and.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
A week there's so much in one room and there's not.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
A whole lot. You know, these quick hits. Uh, you know,
we had a we had a transfer because of nil,
we had Cowboys voluntary team workout. Stars know who they're
playing now in the first round of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
So and tonight the women's the women's draft.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Okay out, I am glad. Right here at the top
of my page, I have a note ask LG and
CAP if they knew the w NBA Draft was tonight.
So everyone be honest, when did you When did you
learn the w NBA Draft was taking place tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'm more of like a third rounder deep dive person,
you know, those late picks. That's when I really get
into it, not the first round. I'm just joking. I
didn't know.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
My other note, yeah, you film how many rounds they're
are to?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I don't know, LG. Do you know how many rounds.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
The WNBA draft is?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Two?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
That would have been My guess. It turns out it
is three. Yes, because there's only like thirteen teams. They've
gotta go where it gets good.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
You're telling me, that's why when you imagine, that's when
you get those reach players. You know what I'm saying. Slovenia, Lithuania.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, you're starting to You're getting your drafting stash prospects
in the in the third round. Yeah, no, of course.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah. I tried.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
For the record, I tried to convince the boys here
to do a w NBA draft watch party, uh for
for tonight, but they said, no, we're going live at
eight o'clock like normal. So alas we're here, yeah, watch
me fall asleep. Well, couple generational talents with the top
two pigs.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Suppose not as good as Kaitlyn Clark went all number
one from.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yukon Yeah page page Beckers ends up.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Dallas number one. Yeah, I could tell you. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I didn't want you to embarrass yourself by taking the
next hour to try to come up with that name.
But as always, we start with what I watched last night,
and of course it being Monday night, that means we
do a bit of a weekend recap and I thought,
two weeks into this thing, I've gone first both times.

(07:33):
So after talking to LG, it sounds like LG actually
had actually had a full weekend as compared to the
last couple of weekends.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Gotta hit me with the LG. Yeah, I had a
full weekend. It wasn't bad.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I actually came out of retirement as a DJ and
DJ somewhere downtown.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Oh where Spike Lee. No one told me, Yeah, no one.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I might have stepped foot downtown.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
No, no, no, you wouldn't have gone anyway if I
had told you don't want to go? I djate burliston
whoa hold?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Okay, time out, time out the cot Factory, Timeout close
and not Burlison, Texas back from where I'm originally from.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Time out.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I leave town for one weekend and you go to
my neighborhood bar of choice, come out of retirement and DJ.
What was this a Saturday night? It was Friday? Shots fired.
I'm telling you I feel like I feel like anytime
you are in the neighborhood it just because you marry.

(08:43):
Courtesy would be yeah, I would, I would think again,
I'll talk about my weekend here in a minute, but uh.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
It just it was.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
It was a last minute thing, you know. But I'm
starting to.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Uh dust off those records.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, I'm dusting off the tables.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
He doesn't digital's I do the digital?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
You do the trader You tried, you you can't compete,
You can't compete.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
You have to go digital.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
But uh, I will be at the Watering Hole on
Thursday night, DJing my first real gig.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
That's where I'm actually booked.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm on the card.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah all right man, it's a good spot very Thursday,
Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I'm going to be at the Watering Hole off Fredericksburg Road.
I don't know for my for my home Xavier's birthday party.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
It feels like we need to show up and support
l G I did. It's good to hear that old
school Xavier, Uh, not the.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Not the guy from the beat, not the you know what,
not the freaking Reacon.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Not.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Freakingcon.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
My first month I moved to San Antonio, I ended
up going to Xavier's birthday party when it was that
club space, that one. It's good to hear your retirement
is uh not a one time deal and back into
retirement of one off.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
He's coming back. Yeah, I've been pushing for this for years.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, I ain't coming back.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
You're coming back to one off.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
It's a birthday, but the friend asked me to do
this for his birthday.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
My thing is, if you didn't know LG. The way
he spends nothing but the classics. I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yes, I played nothing but.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
The late nineties and all the good ones, and he
had He knows how to scratch, gentlemen. It's just not
clicking into the keyboard, clicking in the system and let
it mix for you. He does his own mixes.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
And I've been watching a lot of the Coachella live performances,
and I feel like that's about parison ninety percent of
the DJs that are playing Coachella. It's just push start
the computer. It's exactly exactly. There's a horde of people
around him. Just all that's half of it.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, you gotta.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Make yourself look busy, you know. Yeah, that's I mean,
it's all that get the game up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Just you grab the knobs that don't do anything. I
just pretend that they're really hard to turn.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, and then you notice you see someone who's actually like,
you know, spinning all these knobs. But you're noticing the
music isn't changing changes.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Oh, but then you have the guy, the LG and
the crowd who's in there critiquing him on everything. Oh,
he's not really doing anything right, that's me. So I've
got that's me i'ven't seen in a million times.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I've got a group of friends that are really really
big into etim like, you know, DJ, producing music, whatnot.
And anytime I am hesitant, anytime I find someone I like,
I am hesitant to even mention it to them because
I just I'm immediately.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Like, oh, that's so cracked, that's so basic.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
That guy's not even doing anything, like you could do
what he's doing. It's like, no, Actually, I had to.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Train myself to like not critique anybody when I'm out
at barsic Cloud. Don't critique the DJ, I don't critique
the sound guy.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Don't look at the videographer.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
He's the worst. I noticed.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Not only did you come out of retirement to DJ?
Also did a little live streaming last week I caught
I did.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I went live with one of my good friends, Gary Schneider,
who I've known since high school, and I tried to
do a live show and yeah, I think I failed epically,
I'm not a host me.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
And you're going to do a live show soon. We're
going to do one this week later this week with
the movies. I like where this is gone, so I'd like.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
To do more of those shows.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
You know, you know, I mean, I've known him since
sixth grades.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
That's a good point. I had someone ask me on
on X last week or earlier this week to better
explain exactly all of our connections, like who we actually
how we all got together. So you said it right there.
How long have you and LG known each other?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I moved here from Austin in sixth grade and we
went to drist School.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I've known him since sixth grade.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Go Defenders. We used to play POGs down on the concourse. Oh,
that's that's a nice aging.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
That's a nice aging.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Fun and so, believe it or not, the captain was
a tall, skinny theater kid in middle school.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Hell theater all about that one act play?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, and skinny as well.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Well, that's puberty.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I got in school suspension one year because I got
a handy during one act play practice. That was That
was the first time and I ever got suspension from school.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I was in I was in You're supposed to be
sitting there, Macbeth. I think I was.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I was like I was the town jester or something
whatever play we were doing. So, I mean I literally
wasn't taking it serious. Yeah, I was in full character.
I wasn't taking it seriously. Yeah, I noticed. I saw
that life. That's exciting though, you and uh I I

(14:00):
want to think that this is the beginning of kind
of the sprouting, like any stories.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Like one of one of my best one of my
best friends growing up was his next door neighbor. I
remember us sitting on the driveway smoking tobacco out of water,
out of water bongs wai water pipes. You cannot say
the word.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Be Yeah, you want to piss off a head shop employ.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
But yeah, man, I'm lots of stories. We always had
the same crew. I would I started hanging out with
some Alamo Heights kids. He's still hung out with MacArthur kids.
And I mean just stories for days.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Brom MacArthur Home of Josh Young, San Antonio, the Excavatory.
You know, I watched a lot of Rangers baseball this
weekend at the beach. It was it was a rough
weekend for my Rangers.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh didn't someone get injured.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I think the whole thing's already fallen. I mean there's
still I think a game above five hundred. But getting
swept by a divisional opponent, I'm stealing.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm stealing the weekend because pause that, pause that.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, I know one man that probably watched more baseball
than anybody I know this weekend.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Oh man, it was rough, all right, give me my minute.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Put him on the.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
We lose another starter, Strowman, because all we do is
play in bad weather. At first, it was snow games
in what was it, Not Cleveland, but some random midwest town, Minnesota?
Maybe minute? I who man lost two out of three there.
Then we played the hottest team in baseball, the San
Francisco Giants. We just the first game. It was raining,

(15:47):
wind chill, a wind chill of like at twenty degrees.
Our starter gives up five runs, doesn't even make it
past one inning. We can't hit. The game shouldn't have
gone on. It was as uh what was it? As
our coach said, it was the worst conditions he's ever
seen to play in. So, of course we lose another starter,
which we're already down three starters. But the bass keeps winning.

(16:09):
Goldie is a surprising pick from Saint Louis. Thank you.
He's bad and over one three point fifty Judge is
still hitting him He still has the most tied for
the most home runs, and it's he hasn't hit a
home run in seven games, so that says something for you.
And we're doing great with the Worlorlds home runs.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
These Yankees minutes are gonna feel like the longest minutes ever.
Speaking of Judge, I saw he was named captain of
the World Baseball Classic Team.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oh is he nice? He'll be captain?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Even though I saw Mike Trout's quote on it was
something like, yeah, he's like, I have no.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
When you're mister Yankee, mister New York, Yeah, I have
no argument against that.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
You mentioned Giants being the hottest team in baseball. I thought, uh,
this would be a good time just to you know,
we're what fifteen sixteen games into the season, obviously one
hundred and sixty two of them, so you know we're
not barely not even an eighth of the way. But
you mentioned the Giants eleven and four somehow. First of all,

(17:13):
if you had told me the Giants would have a
better record than the Dodgers fifteen games into the season,
wouldn't have believed that. But secondly, the fact that an
eleven and four record isn't even good enough for first
place in that division. I mean, the Padres thirteen and
three right now, what a stacked division that is looking

(17:33):
and even you know, the Diamondbacks represented the National League.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
In the World Series two years ago.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
The last yeah, yeah there, Padre is still undefeated at
home this year. They're seven and three in their last
ten and the Diamondbacks still a couple of games over
five parts.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Was still one of the most beautiful stadiums I've ever been.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, I love Petko the especially that left field warehouse
building they have out.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
There right near the gas lamp.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah. The rest of the National League, you know, not
a whole lot of other really shocked, I mean brave
starting four and eleven that their start was god awful.
Just the fact that they even have four wins now
is amazing. Mets leading that division and then Cubs off
to a hot start. But looking at the American League,

(18:21):
I'm not sure you look at that American League, East
Blue Jays half a game ahead of your Yankees in
first but you know Blue Jays, Yankees, Socks, Rays oriol
the whole division is.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
It feels like there's not much separation there. Nah, it's
gonna be another grinded out year. And the fact that
it's one of those things where they institute the rule
what was it two years ago where we play every
team instead of just heavily division playing teams like we
played Red Sox sixteen times a year. Now we only

(18:56):
play them eight because we have to play everyone in
the National League and everyone in the American League instead
of just picking certain divisions every year like they did.
I think it's even and out. You saw the Astros
struggle to get into the playoffs last year even though
their division was cupcake. That was the minor league teams
in there. But I can't say much. My Rangers were terrible.

(19:21):
But now it's starting you can kind of see that
these divisions, especially in L West and then the AL East,
it's going to be tight. Yeah, those are the two marquee.
There's solid divisions. They're gonna be competitive. It's gonna come
down to the last month.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, the barring injuries over in the over in the
NL West, you know, Rockies aren't going to play a
part whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
They're terrible.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
They're three and twelve or something.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
It's an experience. It's lot. It was fun. It seems
like a fun day. Shut down the whole they shut
down the whole city.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
They've always had fun teams. Yeah, you know, like the
Cargo team that won like seventeen of their last eighteen
to make it into the playoffs as a wild card
and then ran all the way to the World Series.
Those Todd Helton teams back in the day. Oh yeah,
he always mashed the ball. Yeah, yeah, they were always
they were always fun to watch, but never you know,

(20:19):
realistic contenders. But that Ale East. You could still convince
me the Orioles win that division. Of course, we're only
fifteen games in, they're only three under.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I mean, Gunner Nelson. I mean with the Yankees having
no starting we don't have our ace for a year
at least. Our second person Hill spelled Gil he's coming
back off injury, our third person Smith coming back off injury.
Road On's supposed to be our number two. He's man,
he can go on, he's streaky. He is a very

(20:51):
emotional player. Can't talk about Yankees anymore. Yeah, yeah, we've
hit your Max minuette real quick.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
On the I mentioned the Rangers getting swept, I watched
I'm Loving the victory plus app for the Rangers. I
ended up buying the I think It's it was one
hundred bucks for the whole season of Yeah, yeah, so far,
because I already had been watching the Stars games on there,
so I thought, you know, why not, I might as
well just give them more of give them Actually Stars

(21:19):
were free, I might as well give them my money
to watch the Rangers. Yeah all season and it worked
great down at the beach, had it on the on
the house and the Airbnb we were staying at. But
that you know, Rangers ended up getting swept by the Mariners.
Mariners get back to five hundred. But the most surprising
team in the Al West so far the Angels at

(21:40):
nine and six, Ron Washington working as magic, Mike Trout
smashing again again, like yeah, there was you know a
couple of games.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Ago Angels in the outfield. I guess a couple of
games ago.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
They had three guys with multi home runs in the
same game, Adele Trout and one other I can't remember
who the other was. But the Angels so far, I think,
are you know, definitely the surprise of that division. The
Astros are still lurking a game under five hundred. Obviously
a lot of baseball to be played, but I thought

(22:15):
it would be a good time since I knew you
were going to mention baseball, check in on those standings
I mentioned. Last weekend, while LG was in my neighborhood
entertaining the masses, I was down at the beach at
Port a something.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Right near the beach.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
We try to go a couple times a year. It's
this is, this is the potentially dangerous vacation, or we
can get away with the in laws. This is and
I know that's the first reactions.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
That's so fun.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
It's great, great, great company. I will say this the
you know, the roommate and I have been together now.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
You know married.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Our wedding anniversary is actually next to this Sunday, Easter Sunday,
and that will be said.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
That April twentieth, y'all got married on It's weird. It
was a Friday. It was a Friday Friday.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
It was the only Friday in April that the venue
was available, and it just so happened to be Hitler's birthday. Yeah,
we uh went down to the coast with the in laws,
and first of all, y'all are gonna have to help
me get through this because I'm still dragging ass from
the trip. They get up, like, I mean, y'all know me,

(23:35):
I'm not a morning person. They are up and granted,
Steph's brother and his wife have a couple of little kids,
both under the age of five.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
You know, Uh, so they're.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Up early, man, now, just lounging, just relaxing at the beach.
But you know, it's it's up early before sunset. It's
making breakfast as the sun comes up. I mean, I
woke up to the smell of rush breakfast every morning.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
So and taking that, you know, I'm like, I'm like,
it's still wake me up at eleven o'clock.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
We were, we were most every day. We were tent
set up at the beach by ten am.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh you're the you're you're the prime spot people. You
need that prime spot, and we got it.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Luckily.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
It wasn't ah.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
It was a pretty quiet weekend down in poort A,
not heavy heavy crowds on the beach. It was it
was randomly prom weekend, prom night for Poor Day High
School and so all of the all of the kiddos
are taking their prom pictures on the beach, and I just.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Kept seeing nothing in jail.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Nothing noticed, except for the fact that all of a sudden,
you know, Steph and I were driving down the beach
and it was like, why are there so many people
in dresses taking like what is happening? Like we couldn't
figure it out.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
This weekend, but it was like, oh, like our age people.
I'm like, is there an event going on? I was like,
there's a lot of formal.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Wears, and I'm so kind of slackers, you know, I'm
twenty years removed from high school now. My I didn't
even think about the fact that it would be prom
season or anything.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
You never do until like it's upon him, until you
actually you don't have a kid, until my kid didn't
tell me about prom one year until a week before.
Oh fun, and then he says, my day is going.
She's wearing a brown dress. So it's a bold decision.
It's an asshole decision, that's what it is. I was.

(25:39):
I was pissed, asshole. So I was like, unless you
can pull off a white tux, we got to sit
there and figure out something, you know, to match this
brown dress where you look good too, you know, because
you represent you represent you.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Know, yeah, you still got represent my blood family.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
But with a brown dress. That was a difficult one
and he gave me a week, but we pulled it off.
We got Michael the salmon colored sports code brown tie,
the MASSI address, little tan pants. He looked amazing. He
looked like he was he was a stunn.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah. I think one year, the first year I went,
I wore a like cream colored tuck. Of course I did. Yeah,
and then uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Well I'm not not inspired by it was more like.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Like pearly pearly white.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Somewhere those pictures are floating out in the ether, I
will say, you know, mentioning, Uh, hanging out with the
in laws. I've found. I've found the activity that everyone
will actually enjoy, you know, like they're they're big. Well
they're big like card game, board game. So uh you

(26:48):
know it's Uno skip bow. I'm not as big on
those with or without alcohol. Oh definitely with no no, no, yeah, yeah,
save that the father in laws pounded Budweis are tall boys,
like it's it's a fun time. That's why I say
I think I'm I think I am one of the
lucky ones Catholics. So there was no good luck with

(27:11):
that brother alcohol.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Even at Thanksgiving. The I'm like, can we put the
football game on? Please? Okay, We're not that is that
is just they're good, good Catholic people. Now I've found
I found the activity.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I've been suggesting it for multiple trips now and we
hadn't played yet. I got them to play forty two Dominoes.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
And so the problem was her stuff's mom and dad
have been playing it their whole lives. I grew up
playing it with my with my grandparents. My great grandma
is forty two just regular dominoes. It's like, uh, like,
is that the one? Basically it's like spades. It's like spades,
but with team domino And so I had to get

(28:03):
my ass whipped by her parents all weekend because it
was Steph's first time to play. I'm teaching her how
to play while her mom and dad are just embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Now do you play with Nicks? Do you play with Nicks? No? Good? Yeah? No, absolutely.
I was like I would have virtually slapped you across
this table.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, there was a lot of.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Household there was a there.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Was a strong learning curve to get stuff up to speed.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
But I think I finally like, who knows fine? Who
knows fine? But I think I finally got them on.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
And I'll tell you the Apparently there's some so Steph's brother,
his wife is originally from Michigan. She moved down, went
to undergrad at Western Michigan, which we'll talk about here
in a second, uh, and then did grad school at UTSA.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
She's a public school teacher here in town.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
And apparently there's some game up in the Midwest called
Yuker or something like that that is very similar strategically
to forty two. So she picked it up.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I've never heard it called forty two. That yeah, forty yeah, Well,
I mean for bone, you can play forty two. You
could play eighty four.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
You could play eighty eight if you have, like we
were playing eighty eight because we had six people you
were killing, So you're playing with I love dominoes.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
It's one through six. All those other bones can just
throw them away, like I don't know this forty two
is like it's just you. You want to throw some bones.
There's one way to play. Oh no, you can just anyways.
Play Domino. We can play three person I know three persons,
two people. That's pretty sick old chicken. There's four people.
You gotta have a teammate. Yeah, and then you got

(29:50):
to sit there and be able to like tell them
what you have with your eyes. That's exactly what, so
you gotta be like that was.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
The major problem that because I got two fives. The
brother in law's wife picked it up quickly because it
was similar to something, so they were good instantly. Her
parents have been playing together for years.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
They know how to play each other.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
And then there was me and stuff and I'm, you know,
like I've been playing my whole life. Stuff was playing
for the first time. So it was that balance of
like trying not to get too frustrated that we were
just getting demolished because she was learning thousand Yeah, well
why did why didn't you play? Oh yeah, because you're
just learning. Why didn't you play that three hands ago? Okay?

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, because played times?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
You're like again, there was there was one moment where
I had to get up and take a Domino walk.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I was like, I was like, I I got guys,
I gotta smoke, I gotta burn one. I got to
burn a heater. I gotta get out of her for
a second. I got Actually, I have a restored table,
uh that my friend Natasha did. She did a great job.
But it was our old bones table that was passed
down to my friend who's uh in his fifties, and
somehow passed down to like three other friends and it

(31:02):
ended up with me and I've kept it throughout the years.
And it has a little knicks all over this thing,
and it's from throwing bones.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's all slamming because it's such an old table that
can take all the slams. Now, you could play puts
on it.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
No knife, no knife.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I mentioned Steph's brother's wife went to Western Michigan. Did
either one of you boys realize that we had another
national championship played over this weekend? It was the We
had the Final Four here in San Antonio.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
It was the Frozen Four. This weekend we.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Had college hockey hockey, college hockey, college hockey on the
possibly so Western Michigan. The brother in law's wife, she
went to Western Michigan. Western Michigan was playing in their
first national championship game end up winning it. So getting

(32:00):
watching the National Championship game with an actual grad from
Western Michigan. It was pretty fun. So, oh, she's big
time in she was. Uh, for all you hockey nerds
out there, you'll remember, I think the most recent big
Western Michigan player was a kid, Danny d Kaiser, ended

(32:20):
up playing for the Red Wings for a while. So
she she's been she's a huge Yeah. Yeah, right, exactly, Yeah,
shout out, shout out to the Red Wings and Stars
playing tonight. Yeah, so she's she's a big time hockey fan.
So it was fun to actually watch, you know. Obviously
it was Western Michigan versus b U versus Boston.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Down on the beach and did you know did you
know that over the weekend it's uh, this is from tech,
so I don't get it wrong. It's crazy because it's
full moon in Libra that night in the house of
Aphrodite and talking and you can actually cleanse your crystals.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
So okay, it was the it was the pink moon. Yes, yes, yes,
what the hell that is?

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Look, we have long crystals by putting purified water left
overnight under the full moon and in the jar full
of crystals, and they bathed them in the full moonlight
and it cleanses them.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
What are we what are we talking about? As much
as I as much as I bash, uh, you know,
astrology and all that. Every now and then someone will
tell me something about like whatever sign I am or
like how I'm saying I'll be, and I'll tell them
to my face. I was like that meat, like that
makes absolutely no sense. And then like five minutes later,

(33:43):
as I walk away, I'm like, damn, that was freakishly accurate.
I don't want to much bullshit. That's exactly what it is.
I don't want to admit how accurate some of it is, though.
But highlight of the trip stuff found for the first
time ever all the times we've been going to the beach,
she found a fully intact shark to.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
The moon of Aphrodite. I'm telling you, swear to God.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
And she was really excited about it until I looked
it up and told her what type of shark it
was from. It was from a on the chest San
tiger shark, and it was it.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
It looked found that that was pretty good. That means like,
how close was the tiger shark? Once I don't get
in the water.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Right, Once I don't get in the water at the beach.
That often either if any you know, like knee deep.
That's as far as I'm going. Once I told her
what kind of what type of shark it was from,
I think the excitement level it shifted to a little.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Bit of concern. Wait a minute in that water.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Let me piece these data points together.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Like I'm not kids, I'm like go along and throwing
it real far into the old.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, see what I was, And it was, you know,
of course, always out there there's guys you know, waited out,
you know, waste deep fishing and stuff. You know, the
chances of getting a leg bitten off by a shark
or swim to none when you're that I mean it's
just a jellyfish that wrap around your leg. That's a
bit concerning at times yourself. Yeah, does that even work?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yes, it does. It's science.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I feel like my whole life though I've heard like
if your buddy gets bit by a snake, to suck
the venomount and then someone told me like, no, don't
actually do that.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Doesn't do it. You just need to get them to
a hospital. When I saw that on a Billy Crystal.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Movie, Oh God, the Great City Slickers. Yes, science, I
chalk that up to like as a kid, I thought
quicksand was gonna be a lot bigger threat to my
life throughout adulthood than it actually.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, the extreme quicksand.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
It just feels like there's a there's a lot of
things from my childhood that might not be as accurate.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
But all in all, board it's still waiting, still waiting,
still waiting. They're still those little ones with the wheels.
That doesn't that's not a hoverboard. That doesn't count.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, that little thing that your grandpa bust his ass
on over Christmas break When when you get one, I
can you are a braver man than I am. Hear
that that would have been Mike, bet that would have
been went out. Yeah, all in all, All in all,
a good weekend down at the beach. Uh not as

(36:29):
good as the weekend Rory had an AUGUSTA.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
What a tear jerking moment. Oh man, I swear I
like I me and my dad. He's a huge golf
and I mean last year he came over at the
crack of dawn to watch it, and of course, you know,
I take my you know, mid round nap and stuff,
and he gets all pissed at me. He's like, you're
falling asleep. I could hear you snoring, so he didn't.

(36:53):
He didn't watch it with me this year.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
But you're disrespecting the game falling asleep.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
But Rory had it in the bag. We got the
dream matchup, the d Chambeau Live versus PGA d Chambo
and Rory Rory chasing the you know, career grand Slam.
Oh man. And then at the beginning when Roy drops
the two shots on the final day and those.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
First three holes fund were.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Insane and Bryson goes up. You're just like, oh, could
it be the the the epic collapse that Rory had
when he had a five shot league going into what
was it whole fifteen right after right after amn corner
and oh and he almost had it again. I kept
telling my dad. He was like, he's gonna choke, and
then he did. He multiple times he hipped that last putt.

(37:42):
I was like, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
My favorite part about Rory missing the putt on eighteen
was the fact that it completely robbed Jim Nance of
having whatever cheese bag moment he was about to call
like whatever he was like, which eventually made it better
because he's he let it roll for about five minutes.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, nothing said, Yeah, you don't need you.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Let the moment breathe.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, let the moment breathe. He's sitting there just crying
on the ground, hyperventilating. You know, I can't imagine the
emotions going through him right there. Man, he's he was
a prodigy child like Tiger Man. So much pressure, well
and from early age, you.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Know, a lot of the parallels with Tiger. Obviously, this
was the most viewed Masters since Tigers win what six
seven years ago?

Speaker 1 (38:34):
I don't doubt it. He's the last group was amazing.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, he's now the sixth player ever with the career
Grand Slam, the first one to do it since Tiger
in two thousand, although Tiger owned all four of them consecutively,
which is insane.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
But he did that. He didn't do it in season.
Rory has the capability to have the ind season Grand Slam.
And let's go ahead and notice that the US Open
is at quil Hollow, which as usually the Wells Fargo Tournament,
which he's only won four times.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
And he's the betting favorite ahead of Scotty already.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I was looking at those odds earlier and he's creeping
up on number one Scotty, but he's won it four times,
so he's going there. Then he goes over to the
across the pond, over into his backyard, which he's probably
gonna be the betting favorite over there, and then the
PGA tournament, so he has the the long chance. If
anybody likes a good parlay, that would probably win you

(39:29):
a bunch of money.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
It would win you're throwing your money away because it's
not gonna happen, but it was, it would win you
a bunch of money. You mentioned, uh, you know, the
either's duel with Bryson. I was really really hoping so
many talking we would get, you know, an actual down
to the wired duel between I thought, you know, if
you had told me we were going to get playoff golf,

(39:53):
I would have expected it with him and Bryson. Yeah,
and Justin Rose goes insane on the back nine.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
He hit a sixty six on his final route, and
he was he was leading pretty much the whole the
whole tournament until Rory took him over on the final
on Saturday, and Rose looked like he was just running
out of gas. He's an older, you know, older player
and whatnot. But Bryson's coming roaring back. You know, he
didn't have a good he didn't have a good Friday.

(40:21):
The conditions were perfect, but of course, in Bryce in fashion,
he's like, I told you my swing wasn't there just yet.
You know? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
What he was, uh, you know it was I think
he said something like, you know, despite not having you know,
my best game, I was still able. I proved to
myself I was still able to fight. I think the
more interesting played three games over and live.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
See That's what I was about to say.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
The more interesting thing to me is are we finally
over the live golf PGA Tour? Because Bryson was clearly
the most loved golfer on that course all weekend.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Not the last day.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
All I heard was I don't know, but by the
second once Bryson imploded, Rory got all of the attention.
But go back and listen to the response. Listen to
the response on the t box. At one, it was
way more pro Bryson, and then Bryson starts sliding down

(41:22):
the leader board and then it's well, okay, now if
we can't have Bryson for history exactly, yeah, okay, I
still think but I do think they were one and two,
no question, which you know gave the uh CBS their
their ideal match up with the final group w n
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in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Now I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Uh. I mentioned Nance. I mentioned Nance's moment being stolen
from him the first the when Rory missed that put.
I don't I don't want to just sound like the
guy who bags on every announcer, because I've made it
clear like Kevin Brohard, Burkhard not my favorite cup of tea,

(42:15):
There's not. It doesn't feel like there really are a
whole lot of announcers outside of Joe and Troy that
I look forward to hearing. You know, Mike Breen for
for NBA.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Until they fired him. He was he was RG three
needs to post more pictures with Parisian baguets. Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
I just think Nance Nance has become a bit of
a caricature of himself, like all of the I think.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
The soft talking coorse it's how soft? Can I go
on in deep.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Like it's a caricature of what you think a golf
announcer is, Like it just it doesn't feel it doesn't
feel like and every time during football season, you know,
when it's him and Romo and they have no chemistry,
Romo will say something and then Nance will Just like

(43:14):
during football season, I always remind myself like, Okay, well
this is Nance's second.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Gig, Like he's a wheelhouse.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, like once he gets you know, once he gets
out of the NFL season, like he's already looking forward
to the golf season. But then when we get Nance
on golf, then I'm almost like this broadcast would be
a lot better if.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Tony Romo was in the booth with you don't want
the Classic. He's walking up to the ball everything again.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Verne Lungquist Never, It doesn't feel like vern never became
a character of what he was doing. It feels like
Nance's kind of slid into that territory where he feels
like he is the event and you're you're too tuning
in to hear him call the Masters. You're not tuning
in to watch the actual Masters.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Well, he's still got the old crowd and golf. Even
though he got younger, with Tiger and Rory coming in
right now, we still got it still an older sport.
It hasn't grabbed the youth just yet. Again with the
next breakout person, you know, Zalatoris was supposed to be won.
He had a rough weekend. Oh he missed the cut

(44:26):
big time. Yeah, and Scottie, you know, Cheffy he's he's good,
but I mean, there's nothing that's a wow factor besides
his play. His iron play is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Also, I think Nance announced he's going to retire in
like twenty thirty eight out so like putting that date
out there, that's a bit presumptive. Now, contract is that
he's just I think that's his, Like it's his, it'll
be his fortieth or thirtieth masters.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
How is he gonna how old is he gonna be?
Eighty two?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Well, I mean vern was pretty old before he finally
I think he would end up just doing golf only
for CBS. But just the h the air of importance
that you put out, I'm going to retire in thirteen
years from now, just assuming that CBS will never fire
me that I will.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I feel like that's a Tom Brady move that he
clearly he's like, yeah, I'm gona announce my retirement in
twenty four years after taking all and I think, I
think you just nailed it.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Like he thinks he's Tom Brady, like he thinks he's
that cool. You're just an announcer man, You're just an announcer.
You practiced that cheeseball line in the hotel room the
night before for all, Like his Super Bowl call last year,
I was so glad Romo stepped all over it because

(45:47):
you just, mind know, I can't remember it off top
of my head. Romo started to do like actual analysis
of the game winning play while Nance was trying to
deliver his you know, storybook sign off, And so like,
I just I loved it. It was terrible. It was
terrible audio, terrible TV. But I loved it because I

(46:08):
just knew how much that pissed Jim Nance off.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I took a lot of pride.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
The Booth should also note this is the same man
who one time, during divorce proceedings, ended up talking about
how one of the reasons he divorced one of his
previous wives was because they wouldn't she didn't want him,
wouldn't let him quote unquote let him hang a portrait

(46:37):
of himself above their fireplace.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
In the living room.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
It was a giant portrait.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Wait wait wait, wait wait wait, you don't have a
portrait of yourself hanging. I do not.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I have a Robert Summer's painting hanging in my living room.
I don't have a portrait of myself.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
You're weird.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, what do you have the like mall glamour shots posted?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I got that.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I got like the Costanza you know where he's like
sitting there.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Like a yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I don't think I'm the weird one here. I think
Jim nance wanted need to hang a self portrait of
himself in the house.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Uh. It's just I'm just I'm ready. I'm ready for
people can like hang portraits of themselves, like even like
even like back in the day, like hanging like wedding
pigs or or something like that, always like creeping me out,
And I'm like, let's put something abstracted.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Okay, So one randomly, you know, uh, you know when
you see like sometimes at like six Flags where you
take the like western photos, you know, and they're all
black and white and make you look like it's an
old picture.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Right.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
So in our house we have a bunch of random
pictures of like just old pictures we've bought from a
state cells or garage cells. Random people have no idea
who they are, and they're all mixed in with like
they're in old frames, all mixed in with pictures of
our actual like old you know, family members.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
I want AI to do a photo check on them
and see if any of them are pederasses or anything
we like. I was like, you have a pedophile on
your wall.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
There might be some bank robbers or at least stagecoach
robbers on there.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
But I.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I've been threatening for the roommate and I to get
some of those old western photos taken and just randomly
put one of us up on.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
The wall emitt like superimposed.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Well, just amidst all the other pictures. We have to
see if anybody can actually see if anybody notice it
that one of those is not like the other. All
in all, Yeah, I watched. I'll tell you the one
benefit of living in the dystopian hellscape that we find
ourselves in. I was able to sit on the beach

(48:53):
all weekend and watch The Masters. I had a screen
out there with me, and so I just I laid out,
I had The Masters on a tablet, I had my
ranch water. Life was good like.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Jaggon, who gives it? You got the ambient noise of
the ocean and the Masters going on. See, that's why
I fall asleep during golf because that ambient.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Oh no, I muted the Master as soon as ESPN
stopped covering, as soon as it hits CBS on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
I just muted it and played music in my ears.
I just you a hatred. It's not it's down in
your soul that Jim Nance will not get out of.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
It just feels like, uh, waiting until twenty thirty eight
to pass the baton? Like how would you know he
got divorced because of that?

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Because you know this? Don't question you know this?

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I questioned my sources. I don't know because when I
when I hear something like that about someone that I'm
already on, I can't forget it.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
My brain there, yeah, and now you won't forget.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
But now, like I said, most watched, most viewed Masters
in almost a decade. So all in all, a quite
an entertaining weekend in AUGUSTA. Also, if you missed the
great Chris Vernon with his What's going On in Augusta
updates always always, and.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
He does every year.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
He does a he does a song on his show
where he's it's just giving the scoreboard updates randomly on
his show.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
You got to google.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
It's what it's worth the Google.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I would highly highly recommend shout out to uh Luck.
My dad really went off as one year younger than him.
It was Luttberg who almost made the cut.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Oh Linger Linger, Yeah, the German, Yeah, the German pioneer.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm sixty seven years old.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
At his last tournament, his last Masters, missed it by
one one shot.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, at one shot. That's amazing man.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
And his story is amazing too, because you know, growing
up in Germany when he did you know, he was
the first German golfer internationally.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
I don't think the Germans.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Well you look, you know there's a lot there's a
lot of South African golfers that defended certain defended certain
political strategy. Looking at you, Gary Player. Uh yeah, there's
there's some golfers that man's national treasurement. I got another guy, uh,

(51:24):
another guy hanging around Augusta still. Yeah, the the Linger moment,
you know, him and Freddie Couples almost almost made the cut. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I love Freddy Uh and he played barefoot one year
and that was just like, it blew my mind. That
wouldn't surprise me. Probably it was. It wasn't a Master,
It was just like a random tournament. He just he
just played, took off his shoes and just played the
rest of the game barefoot. And I was like, man,
this guy is legend.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Man. Something else about the Masters I'd forgotten about. Do
you all remember last year when the tree fell and
almost landed on people, Yeah, that was we didn't we
didn't have any of those kind of yeah, like the
hearing the it's about to fall, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Out of the tree fall outside my house one time
and it sounded like it sounded like the end of
the world, and I was like, what's going on here? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Luckily this year the Masters the best. The biggest storyline
coming out of it was the actual golf. Nothing too crazy. Also,
over the weekend shifting gears here we you know, mercilessly
had to finish to the Spurs season. If you know,
this season has been locked in over since the winby

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injury and of course de Aaron Fox opting to have
the surgery late in the year. That was just the
final nail in the coffin. But Spurs finish on a
high note, get a one twenty five point eighteen comeback
win over the Raptors.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Wasn't it twenty one point or twenty four point comeback?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah? Yeah, they were down. Was it seventy six fifty
two or something something like that.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah, I was getting up dates and I thought it
was up, was already done, and then I couldn't believe
that they won. But do you want to know, uh,
one little tidbit of information, this is the first year
that three Spurs players have played all eighty two games.
Say Champenny Barns and Chris Paul played all eighty two games. Huh.

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And this is the first year in Spurs Francis.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Thirty nine year old Chris Paul all eighty two played
all eighty two games, which I was like, I couldn't, like,
I did not know that. Yeah, that's a hard stat
to believe that it hasn't hasn't happened before.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
They like memorized like they put eighty two and put
their names up there. But yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Always Well, that's something to celebrate, because I'm not sure
there's a whole lot else to celebrate besides the great
Bill Shooning calling it a career the goat.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
You know, funny story real quick before we talk about
uh the Spurs. Uh. You know draft odds and all
of the minutia of the off season. You know, Bill
Shooning before he got the Ut job, before he went
to Austin, because he was Ut guy before he was
the Spurs guy, way way back in the day. One

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of his first jobs in Texas was at Lamisa High
School up in the Panhandle, and I ran they were
a basketball powerhouse. No, but there absolutely is a personal connection.
So he was the radio guy for Lamisa Athletics up there,

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where he met a young basketball coach named Wayne Roberts.
And we're talking I think this was seventies maybe eighties,
and that coach, Wayne Roberts at Lamisa, their head basketball coach,
ended up being my head basketball coach at Glen Rose.

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And you brought that's it because the first time I
met Bill, the first time I met Bill out at
iHeart when I told him I was where I was from.
He told me that story, and I just couldn't believe
I'm in such a such a small world, a small.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Absolutely obviously, mister Ironman.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Congratulations to Bill on enjoying. I guess we're now in
day one of retirement today after calling the game yesterday.
I hope he celebrated. I hope he celebrated appropriately in
full force last night. After twenty four years as the
Spurs radio play by play guy. It's going to be

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And I wrote this down on my notes. You know,
we're at a bit of a crossroads with the Spurs organization,
not just in terms of the product on the court
or the potential asset acquisitions this offseason, but you know,
Pop has the stroke, misses all of major of this season,

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Bill Shooning retiring, you know, it.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Feels like it's a season of change.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
For the Spurs in more ways than one.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
This is a new erar that's gonna come up, man,
and I'm hoping I heard maybe Booker from Phoenix. It
would be traded for a number one pick and we
got two of them, you.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Know, And I wouldn't I wouldn't mind that you mentioned
the Sons. The Sons fire coach Bud obviously with his
San Antonio ties. Coach Bud, they're going to pay him
ten million a year for the next four years to
not be their coach. He still gets all of that money.
And the Sons now, uh, three straight years of having

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one year head coaches. I think you mentioned Devin Booker.
I think he's had eight different head coaches in his
eleven years in the pros so far. Oh wow, man,
it's just completely unstable. Alex Smith of uh, and I
don't I don't think it's Yeah, I don't think it's
a case.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Alex Smith had five offensive coordinators in his first five
years with.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
The Yeah, with your Niners. Yeah, I don't think it's
Devin Booker, you know, being a coach killer or anything,
and that just that Sun situation is just uh, it
hasn't been.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
He is from He is a Phoenix, diehard fan. God speed,
horrible Mexican food out there, Lannie, I love you.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Good golf. Speaking of golf, A lot of good golf
out there.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Now. You mentioned the Booker.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
We talked about it a little bit last Wednesday with
my buddy Toby.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
You know, the Sons are absolutely one of the teams
to circle because they could go any direction. You know,
there was there was a report out over the weekend
that potentially the Spurs would be interested in Bradley beal
if they buy him out right and everything everything you're
going to hear. You mentioned the Booker trade rumors. Obviously

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KD has had his own trade rumors going back to
the deadline the drama. The Sons are a team that
clearly is going to make can't move.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
They're blowing it up.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
And that's why the Booker one seems incredibly unrealistic to me,
because one, if it came down, if they did put
him on the market, I think the Rockets would have
more a better mix of players and picks.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Putting it in the air. And I told you you
said this before the show. I said, don't put it
in the air man.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
No, it's I mean, just looking at it on paper,
I mean, that's the kind of guy the Rockets should
be targeting to take that.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
They're already dangerous right now. Yeah, but they're dangerous.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
They're still missing now, they're still missing that one a talent.
I really, I mean, we'll see. The Sons could absolutely
thunder Sons could make a fool of me. But I
think KD is the guy that goes instead of Booker
out of that situation. As you still got I would
think they still want to sell tickets, you get the

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Booker and KD.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
They're going to try to model the Spurs and get
a couple first round picks, one this year of course,
and then they're going to try to sit there and
package it in with another first round pick next year unrestricted,
then maybe get some restricted ones and sit there and
do like a three person trade, but then all come
back with five first round picks.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
That would be if you're trading Booker. If you're trading Booker,
five is the minimum you're getting back. Depending again, if
you go to the Rockets and you talk about players,
then you're maybe not getting five picks back. But uh,
it'll be interesting to see what direction they go. But
tying it back into.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
How long to the lottery? What May? Was it like
May thirteenth or something? Yeah, so we got NFL draft
before then?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, we got got these.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
That's all. This week's going to be dominated.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Yeah, next Monday will be a heavy NFL Draft show.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
May twelfth. I was off by it, and then we're
still thinking about doing a watch party.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Yeah, I think should because the Cowboys picking twelfth and
your Niners.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Up there as well, even trade up. But speaking about
the Spurs, odds.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
You know, we were joking on the on the group
text earlier about you know, the Spurs winning that final game.
It didn't change their draft odds. They were locked into
a which now if you're looking at the numbers of
what odds they have now a little bit a hair
over a twenty six percent chance at a top four pick.

(01:00:30):
And in this draft. I think if you're getting the
fourth pick in this draft, that's a potential number one
or two pick, and most of the drafts of the
last that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
He's not going to be a starting first five. But
he's going to be a starter off the bench. Oh
I think if you're I think, whoever he we're not
going to send anybody to the D League or anything
like that. Now we're getting someone that's going to play
next year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
The problem though, that twenty six percent chance at a
top four pick. Uh, that leaves you, you know, basically
like a thirty five percent chance at the eighth pick,
thirty four percent chance at the ninth pick, and then
like a six percent chance to be the tenth pick.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
I was told there wasn't supposed to be math on
this test.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Oh, no, you're gonna have to keep up. I've been
playing dominoes all weekend. I've been doing nothing but math,
so you know, obviously, then the next big, uh, you know,
thing to look for with the Spurs is the draft
lottery coming up in May, to see exactly where that
pick lands, because then the question becomes if you, let's

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say you move up to that top four, you know, say,
if you're you know what number? If you're four, is
that still something you entertain in a trade. Yeah, we're
gonna if you If you wind up with the second
overall pick, you're potentially getting a guy, like you mentioned,

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You're getting a guy that could step in and be
a starter day one of his NBA career, because.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
After a shooting guard or do we want to go
big man? We're locked in with the point foward when
b we're locked in with the shoot point guard fox yep.
And I think shooting guard is going to be right
up there. If we get the top four, there's a
you know, more of this, what's what's the top four
and shooting guards?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
VJ.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Edgecombe the kid from Baylor, he's shot up draft boards obviously.
Dylan Harper, the kid from Rutgers, He's the presumptive number
two pick, right now, there's a bunch of different ways
they could go. I mean, Trey Johnson is a bucket getter,
the kid that played at Texas, but probably not jumping
all the way up into that top four. He would
be a guy maybe that's there at eight if they stay,

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if they don't get luck in the draft and move up.
But of course we're gonna talk a lot about that
once we know exactly where they're picking. But in terms
of putting a final bow on the Spur season, I
mentioned Pop Stroke and you know the changing of the

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season with Bill leaving and Pop not being there most
of the season. That left Mitch Johnson in charge. And
I thought, just kind of quick around the room, here,
what what grade are we giving Mitch Johnson on the
job this year filling in for Pop? Because I don't
think you know, at the beginning of the season there

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was probably no scenario in his head that he would
be coaching seventy plus games as the interim head coach
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I mean it was the left field, the talent like
the one in once in a generation talent, then getting
the Aaron Fox I will give him. Beginning right off
the bat, he was man C minus then he brought
it up to I think a B B minus overall
for the year. Yeah, I think that's where I'm att
right now. Not stellar, but definitely improved.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I think it was incredibly admirable. He did an incredibly,
incredibly admirable job for the situation he was thrust into.
Uh you know, obviously he's been on the staff multiple years,
so it wasn't like it was, you know, being plucked
from the central market and thrown into a head.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Coaching job or familiar.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, he wasn't bagging groceries. And then you know, coaching
an NBA team. I think, you know, all things considered
before the Wimby injury, you know, post All Star break,
they were absolutely primed to potentially make a run at
one of those final plans and fort and as soon
as you know, Phoenix implodes, Dallas does, Dallas implodes themselves exactly,

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so immediately, uh, you know, that opened up an opportunity,
had the Spurs stayed healthy, to potentially charge for that
you know nine team game, the play in the territory.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Which we could I mean if Weimby didn't get hurt,
if if if fifths but you know, see, and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Where you know, looking at it's hard to really grade
Mitch Johnson fairly one because of how he was put
into the position and then to the injuries at the
end of the season with Wimby and Fox.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
See that's where I think he stepped up his game
because he was playing, he was using the role players,
using the veteran leadership of Barnes and CP three, letting
them kind of control in the moment during some tight games,
and they weren't blowing substantial fourth quarter leads like they
were in the beginning of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
So yeah, I also think the as an organization, they
would never admit it, but there was a lot of
organic tanking going on there. You mentioned some of those
some of those lineups, and you know, anytime let's take
out Fox right now, anytime you commit to Chris Paul

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that he's going to be the starter all season as
a thirty nine year old Chris Paul, I think you're
already kind of telling you're kind of showing your cards.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
I don't think at the beginning of the season, like Chris,
I mean, he's still that man. Eighty two games, he's
still that guy. But like his defense is lackluster, but
he could still get buckets. He still commanded the floor.
It was it was more about having it still put
him in a top ten point guard. If he's at
eight or nine, you don't think he's the You don't

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think he's the tenth best point guard in the NBA. No, No,
I think he's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I think he's if you're talking the starting point guard
of ever of all thirty teams. Oh, I think he
is at best middle of the pack. He's he's just
thirty nine. Like his leadership is his presence with this
young drew that veteran knowledge, I'm sure, But I also
watched the games, and I watched NBA League Pass almost

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every night throughout the whole season.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Maybe twelve best.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
You're doing that based purely on resumes. I'm saying resume
of who he is versus what it actually.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
He had incredible games with us. He was solid. He
he knew what we were getting with them, and that's
what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
He gave them exactly what they thought they were getting
at his current age. He did exactly what.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
They wanted him to do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
He played, like you said, all eighty two games, provided
that veteran leadership for a young corps. That's still learning
how to be professionals. When Wimby was healthy, he did
a damn good job of feeding Wimby the ball where
that hadn't been the case the year before.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Low, What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Yeah, like there, you know there were there were absolutely
high points. But starting next year, that's darn Fox at
the starting point guard and Steph Castle at too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
That's your back court. So again, and I like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
I think the signing of Chris Paul to begin with
was a bit of organic tanking. You would have hoped
again without the Wimby or Fox injuries. I would love
to see if they had if they could have caught
because what Dallas ended up three games under five hundred
I think thirty thirty nine, thirty eight in Dallas. Whatever, Yeah,

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you could have know they're still in the plane. You know,
San Antonio could still upset and still be in the
play in. That's not in the playoffs. Speaking of talking
about the plan, I think at this point now that
we're you know, multiple years into the playoff or play
in experiment, that made Sundays viewing amazing, Like that Clippers

(01:08:45):
Warriors game with Harden and Kawhi going back and forth
with Curry and Draymond.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
That made game eighty two of the season actually mean something.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
But are you making game eighty two mean something? Are
you gonna are you risking taking away a team that
can actually play a five or seven game series later on,
which would be even more entertaining. What if Dallas does
move on when you know they're just gonna lose in
the first round, But then you're like, oh, we could
have had this other team that didn't throw away a

(01:09:19):
generational talent like Luca. You know so, yet me ask
you eighty two? The eighty second game was fun and
I did watch I did watch basketball on Sunday, which
is why I would have never watched the last games
of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
So it worked.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
So the NBA got what the one game? For one game?

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
It worked, but still more than you would have won. Now,
what if it is one of our teams that gets
ousted off of one game playing But here's the dep
off the top of your head. Do you know what
the lowest seed to ever win an NBA Finals is?

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
No, No, not even close. No six six Rockets. But
how many seeds have been in the finals. There's never
been an ace And I'm doing the scrabble chaps. Not
not an eight seed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
No, And that's the thing like that when everyone complained
about did.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
The Knicks years, wasn't the Knicks eight I was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
But that was the lock out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Okay, so we're not gonna count. We're not going to
count the Spurs championship.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Now, all right, they get they get the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
I just got you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
They were they were the last they were the last seed,
and they made it to the finals. Check me now
that that's still no, no, no, it's still uh was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Uh Anyway, well till next time, I'm gonna say I'm
correct on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
But no, there absolutely not, no need is the is
the lowest seed anyone's ever won an NBA championship. I
don't care to make it to the finals. But like,
if you made it to the finals, you said, that
still doesn't mean it. You didn't win. It doesn't matter.
You were there, you were dancing cool, you still lost.
Like you were still an eight seed that didn't win

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an NBA final. Was talking to Cowboy Fan about Niners
going to the super Bowl all these years and not winning.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
You know, you'd rather be us going to the super Bowl.
Of course I was, of course we went to the day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
But I also I'm not going to cry for an
eight seed not having a chance to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Nicks he Jimmy Buckets. Yep, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
So we're talking about the finals, we're talking about we're
talking about the COVID bubble, and we're talking about the
NBA lockout here.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Normal regular seasons, there's no.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
There's a lockout here. Oh my god, he keeps.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
There's absolutely no reason to defend a seven or eight seed.
They earned a playoffs, a seven or eight, it doesn't matter,
there's no l The lowest team to ever win was
a sixth seed. As I just as I just say win,
I said, make it again, make it. If you're crying
about the play in at this point, you're crying about

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seven and eight seeds, that just seems like a worthless
argument to even there's still hope again, No, there's hope.
There's really the most hope you get is like, uh,
the Warriors that beat the one seed maps in seven,
now Grizzlies that because.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
It's always a series, and which is why I do
not like playing game. It's the one game like basketball,
isn't just like baseball. I hate the one game playoffs.
That's not baseball, that's not basketball. We need a series
at least the best out of three, you know what
I'm saying. But for like football, that's why you get
an eighth seed that goes to the Super Bowl wins

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the six.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Balls just such a it's a one off.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
It's a one off. And now it's like once you
get these low level teams that are like, you know,
catching fire and a catching fire at the right time,
but over a series, they're gonna get out played and
out coached and restructured. And that's when like Papovich shines,
that's when all the good coaches shine Spolstra, you know.

(01:12:55):
But that's basketball, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
But yeah, I I.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Still don't know about the play and I don't like
these one game one offs.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
The one game like, I don't there there's probably a
better way to do that part of it. But at
the end of the day, I don't think, yeah, best
of three, it would be obvious. I don't think there
is really Like, I'm not gonna lose sleep if a
seven seed ends up losing both of their play in
games and doesn't make the playoffs, and and the only what.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
If Wimby came back and we were in the play ins,
and we had the mojo, and we had the Aaron
Fox didn't get the injury, and we had the pieces around,
and we had that hope and that wheeling like we
can we did if we just dig down. That's why,
because they could actually a one off and we lose
on a one off. Yeah, but again that's why you

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need the three games.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Sure, but you're defending a team that finished in the
middle of the pack.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Is giving you this scenario, Like, I'm just giving you
this scenario.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
You know, there's fifteen teams in each conference, and we're
talking about the teams that finished dead middle.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Like it doesn't like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
There's not a whole lot to defend there. I would
love to see, you know, one of these teams, you
know we talk. You know, Atlanta is playing tomorrow night
in the East play in. Yeah, we need Atlanta to
lose both games so that they're out and their pick
becomes a lottery pick because as everyone knows, Spurs own
the Hawks pick. Yeah, so absolutely we're rooting. We are

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all Orlando Magic fans tomorrow, like Penny and Shack are
still there or Dwight's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
The top guy right now?

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Which one?

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Orlando boon Cara, former number one pick.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
I know, yeah, go the he's a stud the go
magic again late by former MAVs assistant coach Jamal Moseley.
I just think the play in is doing. It's working better.
I agree about the one game, the one off, but
it's working better than even I anticipate because I was
hyped about it when it was announced. Because it does.

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It does.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Like you said.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Sunday afternoon, we're watching game number eighty two instead of thinking, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Are you looking forward?

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Yeah, you're already.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Looking at well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
The Grizzlies are going to play the Thunder in round one,
the Warriors are going to play the Rockets. So what
real motivation do those teams have come game eighty two
if they're already locked into it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
So it did its job.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
The one the one pushback I would absolutely hear out
is just looking at the rankings of the standings. You know,
the Rockets are the two seed at fifty two wins,
the Grizzlies are the eight seed at forty eight. The
fact that the two seed and the eight seed are

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only separated by.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Four games, Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
And tell me, what right now, what NBA fan has
more belief in the fifty two and thirty Rockets than
they do the forty eight and thirty four Warriors.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Well, the you clearly feel better about the Warriors. The
matchwayoff chances peaked for is you know La versus Minnesota
man and his cronies versus Luca and Lebron. Yeah, it's
gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
I mean, we saw what Luca did to go Bear
last year in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Like exactly, and they are already fighting. They are fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
You know you've lost a trade when you obviously they
lost the Luca trade the Dallas did. But when you
trade a guy, when you trade a guy and your
NBA Championship odds tank and the other team's skyrocket, exactly,
that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Happened with it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Like the Lakers are now genuine title big enders. Like okay,
follow up before we go to our lightning round and
get out of here. Number eight seed Nicks lost to
the Spurs in ninety nine. You're correct, six seed Rockets
beat the Magic in ninety five. They're the lowest seed
ever to win an NBA finals.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
The other eight seed, Now was there eight seeds that year?
Because you're talking about a long time ago. Or was
there only six seeds? Because didn't they're right, they're right,
couple of seeds. No, it was eight and that was
so you are correct.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
The lockout shortened season, had an eight seed in the finals,
and and the Spurs.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Beat you know, you know my three favorite words, right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
The Heat were you were right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
The Heat said, well, no, you were right? You say it, well,
no you I love the me. You were still wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
I was, And I'm giving you the exact the exactly
the eight seed Heat that wasn't the Heat weren't eight seed.
The Heat were the lowest seed they were they've been
when they made the finals, was a five seed when
they lost to the Lakers in the bubble. I thought
they I thought that's what y'all were talking about with
the Heat. Uh, they weren't an eight seed any other time.

(01:17:43):
So the Knicks are the only eight seed to appear
in an NBA five.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Saying the Heat again with the Nuggets not in the bubble.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Yeah, no, they weren't eight seeds though that that's not
not correct. So close because I had to look it up.
Closing out, I liked you threw this out last week
a bit of a lightning round, quick hits to close out.
So I've got a few written down. I know you've
got a few to get to. You want to go first.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Oh yeah, man, let's do it. Dude. Watch the UFC. Dude,
that was a stellar fights. Man. Patty Pimbleton is that man?
We had? Uh, we had a bunch of people. We
had the I think New Zealander, I always forget his name.
You off. He was dominant as usual. He's going to
be a stud for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Uh, you had stupid, stupid ass Colby Covington trying to
call it out. Bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
The heat were eight seeds against the Tell me my
three words, Tell me my three words? You were Thank
you John?

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
All Right?

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
But yeah, the UFC was good this weekend. Love me
some good fights.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
I'm glad you keep an eye on that because that
is I've said it before. That is probably the biggest
blind spot in my sports fandom.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
I watch a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Boxing, yeah, but zero UFC just never really, it never latched.
It never got a toos into me. Early I've never
see I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Did boxing when I was a kid, which is surprising.
It's just I can't stand all the picking fights maywere
they killed me on boxing? Yeah, they even though he
is one of the most talented boxers to ever do it,
Master of the Sweet Signs, the Philly Shall, just running
from fights that he should have taken before. The guy
was ancient. He knew what he was doing. I didn't

(01:19:33):
like it. Back in the day, you fought the best
no matter what.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
So this UFC fight this weekend was this on a
scale of one to ten, what was the importance or
the hype of it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
The best fight one? This one was pregnant. You're you're
looking about mid level. This isn't a super fight. Usually
those happen. The next one in May or June is
they're going to try to get John Jones and that's
going to be a fight. He's they're still trying to
sign him to a you know, he's still fighting and
winning and winning. Damn. The only loss he had was

(01:20:05):
because he took allegedly steroids. Yeah, throw that allegedly and
they don't need his you know, he did run from
a crash on That's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
I thought there was more to that story as well.
That was kind of why I was.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Like, he still fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
If you leave the scene, they can't say you were
driving under the influence. It's the old it's the uh,
it's the the s m U receiver that plays for
the Chiefs that had Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, it's it's
that whole that's same. Just leave the scene so you
can't be like.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Then when the officers come to your door, you just
have a beer cracked and you're like, oh, I've been
drinking soon as I got home.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Obviously not good legal advice here from the sports cave,
but solid device. Uh So that was uh uh Saturday night.
The only thing I saw coming out of it was
the Trumpster. SHOT's got Tom Brady by Trump? Yes, yeah,

(01:21:06):
that was that was That's about the only UFC analysis
I can give you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
He's like, I can't stand Larry David.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Another Uh yes, yes, just all I hated Seinfeld. Uh
lightning around quick hit Joe follow any of the nico
U Tennessee quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Was trying to fish around, saying he wanted four million.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Trying to get a raise on that nil money.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
It wasn't an Oregon that kind of they they kind
of burst the bubble to Tennessee. That's what I heard.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
So I'm not sure it's a one hundred percent been confirmed,
but someone they did ask dance it came out as
the reporting that it was so for going back, he
said there was fourteen. The Tennessee starting quarterback was on
a two point two million dollar in IL deal. He
wanted to raise He was negotiating with Tennessee to try

(01:21:59):
to get to four me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
I think they got up to three point five, and
he wanted four because he wanted to be the highest
paid in IL player.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
He sits out of spring practices while they're negotiating. Granted,
he led Tennessee to the college football playoffs last year,
losing to the eventual national championship.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Buck guys.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
But then, like you're saying, apparently he was shopping himself
around someone like and his family has heavy involvement in
all of this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
So someone in his damn right name four point five million,
I'm gonna have. I'm gonna be involved, sure, like you're
gonna come talk to me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Yeah, but also you might have just got your kid,
Like you might have just lost that gravy train because
of your greed. So potentially someone in his corner reaches
out to Oregon. Dan Lanning, the Oregon head coach, hears
about it, calls Josh Hipelu, Tennessee's head coach, tells him
what's happening, so they A reporter asked Dan Lanning today

(01:23:01):
and he refused. He didn't comment, so that means he
did it absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
I wonder if all those organ players are going to
feel real good about this coach snitching to him about
the again, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
I don't think any of them care as long as
their checks keep clearing. The bigger question or the bigger
I guess conversation to me is just the amount of
people that are rushing to say all of this college
sports are officially dead.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
We got wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
I go back to why did we never hear y'all
say that about head coaches that leveraged other job offers
to get raises at their current university? Like how come
when Caliperry, a player does it, it's the death of
the sport, But when coaches have done it for decades,
it's just how business Well they're just because they're smart businessmen.

(01:23:58):
It just feels like it's it feels like there's some
hypocrisy that Now, all of that being said, if you're
a Tennessee player and your starting quarterback is doing this,
you obviously feel like he's not bought into the team.
So like I get both, I get both sides in
a way.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
It immediately you just need to learn that no player
is bought into the team right now. The NCAA has
mistreated their players for so long. They're bought into themselves
and their brand and for the first time ever can
be and what can the team do for their brand?
And that's just the way it's going to be. And
if you're mad about it, you did it to yourself. Yeah,

(01:24:35):
that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
At the end of the day. There just needs to
be more uniformity to all of it. There needs to
be they need to be under contract because right now,
technically you could have a kid get paid in high
school like Nico did, to sign with a school. He
signs with the school, he gets his nil money because

(01:24:57):
in some states you can get paid in high school.
He goes to the university and then gets paid again
now under the university's collective and then might not ever
play a game for him. He could leave and keep
all that money. There's no contractual obligation to fulfill your
end of the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
They're going to and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Like that we'll see how that works out. There just
needs to be more uniformity to it all. And I
think that the conversation of college sports being dead is
incredibly overblown. It's just it's hyperbolic in the to get
eyes and clicks and attention when it's really it's not that. Yeah,
it's it's not. It's not going to be the death.
Knell is going to be fine, Yeah, and he'll whatever fine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
The one interesting the one interesting thing, because of SEC rules,
he can't transfer to another SEC school and be immediately
eligible because I guess their spring transfer window that don't
allow you to go to an in conference school. So
he's probably gonna have to leave the SEC, which potentially.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
It would be hilarious at Oregon.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Quickly, a couple of df W quick kicks Uh Micah,
apparently wanting that new contract, is showing up to voluntary
off season workouts with the Cowboys. He is trying to
assume after him and DeMarcus Lawrence uh had their little

(01:26:34):
spat about leadership on Twitter after DeMarcus signs with the Seahawks. Apparently,
now Mia is trying to he's a clown who's really
good at football and that's all that matters.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Best. He's not the best.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Compared to what like here, but I would rather have
Max best.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
There's a quick hit, Max Crop, he's taking on a j.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Yeah, let's talk about that in a minute. I would
still rather have the third best edge rusher in the
league locked up to a contract extension this offseason before
we get to training camp, which it seems like Micah
is doing his part at least to show Jerry. Look,
I'll show up to workouts because I want this deal.
Let's get it done. Also mentioned Stars. They playing the

(01:27:22):
Red Wings tonight, but the game doesn't matter. They're locked
into a first round matchup with the Colorado Avalanche. Interesting
NHL fun fact, none of the original six US based
teams made the playoffs. So what Boston, Chicago, Detroit.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
You could put a gun to my head and I'll
can figure the fourth one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Yeah, so it's it's the first time ever, though, it's
the first time that none of the original six, the
American version because.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
It's still Rangers.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Yeah, Rangers. Rangers are the other one, I think, Yeah,
Rangers or the other uh so none of those Yeah,
none of those four are in the playoffs this year.
You mentioned the Max Crosby new job.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
He's going to be assistant GM wile playing football again.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Let's hear let's hear the same people that bitch about
Michael Parsons podcast or uh podcast, Let's see them bitch
about Max Crosby taking a job.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Too much business.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
I don't think there's gonna be a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
And really that is one glaring fact.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
But you know all that all that is is a
recruiting effort by Eastern Michigan. They just want to remind
kids that, hey, look we we actually have produced an
elite NFL talent in our building. Come come to Eastern Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Played try to get Max Crosby. He's such a beast.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Yeah he Uh. It feels like one of those unfortunate
situations where he's just gonna play irrelevant football his whole
career because of the team he's and probably try to
go to like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
A playoff at the very end.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Yeah exactly, But uh, I'm not so sure he's gonna
be the last to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
I mean, if you're if he's gonna he's starting a trend.
He's like, if I can get paid just to be
the face and a recruiting tool for a like especially
like a second tier college and stuff like that. Yeah,
they're gonna do this with ans or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Uh UTSA, let's contact Spencer Berford out there. Let's see
if we can't get him back on the payroll to
convince some of the uh you know, high school offensive
lineman from the ut s A.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
I think this is a great move for him and
let's go birds come on now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Yeah, I uh, it was interesting when I saw that,
but we've again. I think you'll I think you'll see
potentially more smaller schools like that follow their league. That's
about the that's the end of the run.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
Yeah, that's that's flick that I like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
The I like ending with the lightning round because as I.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Got to be faster on it, this is lightning. There's
always well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Maybe we can we can even uh maybe uh LG
will work on getting some sounders for it. We need
we need an interstitial between each Yeah, maybe we just
have a lightning crash between each story. Well that will
do it for the Monday edition of The Sports Cave.
As always, cap LG.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
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Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Till then, Peace kids, What do we say about drugs up?
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