Spurs Bow Out of NBA Cup & Good Dude Bama Brown

Welcome to The Sports Cave with Biggest Puma, your ultimate destination for all things sports, hosted by the charismatic and passionate Sam Freas, also known as Biggest Puma. Broadcasting live from the east side of San Antonio, Sam brings you an unfiltered, entertaining, and insightful look into the world of sports.

In this episode, Sam kicks off with a countdown to the inaugural 12-team College Football Playoffs, sharing his excitement and setting the stage for what's to come. After a brief hiatus, Sam is back with fresh energy and a new agreement that promises more episodes and exciting content.

Join Sam as he welcomes a special guest, Texas Radio Hall of Famer Bama Brown. Together, they dive into a variety of topics, from the latest in college football to the ups and downs of the Dallas Cowboys. Bama shares his journey in the radio industry, his love for cars, and his new podcast under the iHeart banner.

Expect plenty of laughs, passionate rants about the Cowboys, and in-depth discussions on the Spurs' performance in the NBA Cup. Sam's unique perspective and Bama's engaging stories make for a dynamic duo that keeps you coming back for more. Whether you're a die-hard sports fan or just looking for some entertaining banter, The Sports Cave with Biggest Puma has something for everyone!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like blight.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Why ah Yes, the sound of generic cyberpunk music means
it is once again time to light the beam. Welcome
into the sports Cave with Biggest Puma. I am, of
course your host, Sam Freeze. If you want to join

(00:28):
the course of people that have reached out to me
over the last two weeks asking hey man, where's the program?
Where's the episode? I appreciate y'all. You can find me
on x at Biggest Puma on Instagram, Biggest Dot Puma
broadcasting once again live to tape from the east side
of San Antonio, here where we once again find ourselves

(00:51):
having to start a new countdown here in the intro,
so I thought it was only appropriate with the inaugural
twelve team college foot ball playoffs getting ready to start,
that that should be our next countdown. So sixteen days
till the college football playoffs. Obviously a lot to catch
up on since the last time we talked. It has

(01:13):
been back before Thanksgiving since we did one of these.
But fear not, the inc is officially dry on the agreement.
We are back in perpetuity. The corporate overlords have decided
not only do they like what they hear on this program,
they want to hear more of it on another program,
and we'll get into that in the main segment. I

(01:35):
do have a guest joining us today, a guest that
you will hear quite a bit of moving forward, whether
you listen to my podcast or his, a Texas Radio
Hall of Famer out of Austin, and most importantly, just
an overall good dude. You can trust me if you
hear it from me, an absolute good dude. Bama Brown

(01:56):
will be joining us on Wednesdays moving forward. Him and
I have been working on a project for the last
two weeks together as he gets his podcast up and
running under the iHeart banner, and don't worry, it's still
going to be my normal sports obsessed self most days
of the week. But I thought it would be a

(02:17):
nice change of pace to have him join on Wednesdays, because,
as I said, we've been working now. You know, I've
known him since joining iHeart knew of him before that,
and it turns out we actually have cross paths in
the past and have worked with different people, some of
the same people at different places, so a weird kind of,

(02:39):
you know, small world phenomenon. The more I got to
actually talk to him and honestly. Most importantly, besides him
being a good dude, it keeps me from going a
little crazy from just hearing only myself talk on these
episodes week after week.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I know a few of y'all have.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Picked up on the the uncomfortable nature that I started
to feel as it was just me screaming about Jerry
Jones day after day. Started to drive myself a little crazy.
But again, don't worry. You're still gonna get plenty of
that because now the Cowboys, even when the Cowboys win,

(03:19):
it drives me insane, because now they're just ruining their
draft stock, their draft position when they have still three
percent at best chance of making the playoffs. I hope
the disgust in my voice translates through the microphone, because
you're still gonna get plenty of that. We'll talk our
pig Skin previews on tomorrow's episode, but as always, we

(03:42):
start with what I watched last night, and unfortunately, that
was the Spurs bowing out of the NBA Cup, the
historic tradition rich NBA Cup. They lose one oh four
ninety three in Phoenix. Unfortunately, Spurs weren't able to recover
from another slow start last night in fact, I mean, Wemby,

(04:06):
I don't think you're going to see this too often
the rest of his career, but a scoreless first half
before coming out absolutely hair on fire to start the
third quarter still wasn't enough. Well, speaking of hair on fire,
really the biggest takeaway from the game last night, outside
of it yes being an elimination, a loss that eliminated

(04:27):
them from NBA Cup contention, the biggest story of the night,
and really the best long term development for the Spurs
was the return of Jeremy Sohan and his lime green hair.
He comes back almost a month to the day from
the last game he played before the injury, and quickly
I think we were all reminded of just how well

(04:49):
he had started this year and how big a part
of the Spurs early season success he was playing next
to Wimby. I joke about the NBA Cup, but I
am a little bombed. I was really hoping, you know,
this team of young, inexperienced players would have the opportunity
to potentially play for something as worthless as it is.

(05:13):
I get it. It's it's the made up in season tournament.
And I know, as silly as it sounds, it does
look like some of these guys are taking these specific
NBA Cup games more serious across the league.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
You know, you saw some.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Knicks players immediately tweeting out, you know, they got paid.
I think it was fifty two thousand dollars each something
like that for their bonus for making it to the
knockout round of the NBA Cup. And I think it
was Josh Hart that had already put out a tweet,
you know, like, oh, that's a new watch.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Look.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Nothing motivates these guys more than money. If I know,
you want to remember the glory days of you know,
playing just to try to win a championship. No, the
additional money is a huge motivator. And as much as
I would have liked to see our young guys get
a little additional change in their pocket, just having the

(06:10):
atmosphere as close to a playoff game as you can
get in the regular season. You know, a Spurs roster
that doesn't have a lot of playoff experience, and even
you know, obviously Chris Paul has experience, Harrison Barnes has
a little experience, But it's a matter of the collective
group having experience together, playing together in games that quote

(06:35):
unquote matter more than a regular season game, and I
do think that's a missed opportunity that the NBA Cup
does provide, because as great a start as the Spurs
have had to the season so far this year, there
still would be looking at going through the play in tournament,
and the NBA Cup is basically, you know, one and out,

(06:57):
single elimination like the NCAA tournament. At this point, once
they get to the knockout rounds, you know, those moments
would be potential development moments for this young core together
to try to win more meaningful games, to build towards
play in experience, and then of course potentially playoff experience

(07:19):
once we get there. It's obviously not a huge deal
that they were eliminated from the NBA Cup, but I
do think it's a minor bummer that they won't get
that opportunity to play in a more pressure situation together
as a group.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Hopefully we still.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Get to see that in the play in games, or hell,
maybe even a hot streak puts them back above the
play in bracket. I don't think that's gonna happen, but
so far they've proven a lot of people wrong this
deep into the season. I mean, I keep seeing the
tweets of you know, it wasn't till February that the

(07:58):
Spurs had won their eleventh game last year, and that
just tells you how further along in the project they
are this year compared to nine ten months ago. I'll
sprinkle some more Spurs talking tomorrow because there's still I've
got a lot of notes to catch up on from
their games over the last two weeks since we last talked.

(08:19):
But as I mentioned, we have a guest today and
I don't anticipate his Wednesday appearances going as long as
they did today. But for his debut appearance here on
the Sports Cave, Bama Brown and I went a little
longer than intended, but without further ado. Here was our

(08:40):
conversation from earlier today. Well, sitting down with me now
is a longtime buddy, a longtime co worker, and now
a full time coworker again of mine as I embark
on this second round journey at iHeart something that you
might have noticed been away, been away for a couple

(09:03):
of weeks. Something we've I've been working on. Something we've
been working on as a new podcast with my good
buddy here, Bama Brown, and I know he loves it
when I remind him of this.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
A Texas Radio Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Oh please, Bama.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Brown, I'm making sure. I'm just making sure I say
it enough times so your check clears.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh my god, it's in a guy's garage up there
in Tyler somewhere. There's a you say that every.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Time you're disrespecting the fine folks of kill Gore, Texas.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's kill Gore Is. That's where it is. I've never been.
In fact, I'm gonna let you in a little secret.
I didn't know there was such a thing when I
actually got in there, right, But I will tell you
this not a name dropper deal. But I have a
friend in Austin. I'm in Austin, and it's a Dan Rather,
the news guy, and I was having lunch and i'd
got and he saw where I got in, and he goes,

(09:58):
I think I speak on behalf for Walter Cronkite and myself.
We want out now that you're in. I was like,
I go, that's that's rude, man, that's so nice.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Thanks a lot something I have.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
You know, we've been we've been working now full time
together for a couple of weeks on your new podcast,
The Bama Brown Experience. And now the tables are turned,
I get to tell you, why don't you plug your
new podcast?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Oh yes, well, thank you very much. Yeah, I've been
on the radio. If you don't know who I am,
I've been on the radio in Austin for thirty seven years.
Knowing Puma forever. We have mutual friends in the business
and in the same boss. And he said, I think
you guys should do some podcasts.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Now.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I told Puma, I said, I'm not the most sports guy,
and so you're famous and you've got thousands of listeners
to your sports show. I have about twelve listeners to
my little deal up there. But it is it's called
the Bama Brown Experience. I know. Isn't that very creative anyway?
Bama Brown Experience. And it's on the free iHeart app,
so think about it that way. It's free, so you know,

(11:00):
not paying that you're my deal?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, you're You're so hard on yourself. It's I think
you're gonna have. I think you got more than a
dozen listeners. Uh, as we get rolling on this thing,
I know I mentioned I whip your ass all the
time about being a Texas Radio Hall of famer. If
you aren't as in tune with Austin Radio landscape, you

(11:22):
might have seen Bama on other He's an aspiring I
learned earlier today he's an aspiring screenwriter for Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
So no, yes, sure, we'll get too big.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
You might have also seen him on Motor Trend channel
on the show Iron Resurrection.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, now that's that's been fun. Eight done eight seasons
of Iron Resurrection. I'm a car guy, that's my hobby,
and so that's I've been on that show. It's the
number one show on Motor Trend and of course Motor
tren going away this year, but we did eight seasons.
Don't have any idea if it's coming back or what
they're doing or anything about it that nobody knows anything.

(12:00):
But we have a shop up here in Dripping Springs
and I know those guys and they asked me to
be on it, and I was like on the first episode.
I knew about three episodes a season for the last
eight years. So it's been a lot of fun. Got
recognized around. If I traveled, you know, around the country,
somebody would come up to me every time and say
hello you, and that was kind of fun.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, I you know, as as you mentioned, our boss
paired us up together, and you also mentioned you know
something about working in this industry. There's so many people
that cross paths that I don't think you realize how
connected we all are. Because as soon as you and
I really started game planning some you know, content ideas

(12:40):
and whatnot, it turns out we both have paintings in
our house. I'm looking at yours right now behind you
on the wall. We both have paintings by a guy
who also was one of the first radio DJs I
ever worked with when I got into the industry here
in San Antonio, a good dude, John On John Welch,

(13:01):
John Welch working on the Classic Country station here in
San Antonio when I first started at Cox, he was
just starting to dabble with the hobby of painting. And
I know back then he was doing a lot of
music paintings. You've got an awesome Merle Haggard painting.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Had his first I bought his first painting that he
did that he got money for. I bought a Merle
Haggard that I'll compare to any other artist anywhere, and uh,
it is fantastic. It was three hundred dollars and I
felt like I got a bargain, and I bet I
could get a grand for it now. And I told John,
I go as soon as you die, this is gonna
be worth a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
I think it's a retirement plan at this point.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I appreciate John because, uh, he took it easy on
a struggling board op trying to crack into the industry
back then. Because he sold me an awesome painting of
a panda holding a nine millimeter and a very very
looking stance. He sold me back for a pretty good bargain.

(14:04):
So again, it's funny how it turns out we you know,
we've known each other for a while, for a long
decade plus now, but it turns out, you know, the
more we talk here, the more we share war stories,
it turns out we're even more connected than I think
either one of us realize.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
So I actually I worked with John and radio and
probably forty some years ago on k wes at Odessa
and then he went on to do I mean he
did really well. They were him and Welch and Woody
were they called it the Welch and Woody Show. They
were in Chicago, San Francisco. I mean, they were in
some major markets. Eventually he went kind of retired. He

(14:43):
went up to Alaska and was in Fairbanks on the radio,
and then he came back and was in San Antonio
for a few years. And he's retired now and I
think he paints full time, is what he does.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
That's the last I heard.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Last I heard, he's managed to turn it into a
bit of a little profitable hobby now a little more
than a hobby even.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, and an excellent voice. Is a great voice guy.
And we had a lot of fun over the years,
and Puma and I always threatened to work together in
different ways, and then we started doing this thing. My
thing a couple of weeks ago, but yours has been
going on for a while, and Puma said, hey, do
one we come in for just one day a week
if nothing else, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
So, yeah, it feels like it feels like Wednesdays are
are a good cause, you know something about me, I
am extremely sports obsessed, so there's not much time for
much else in my I mean, it's it's sports every
night of the week. There's something I'm watching, uh, you know,
and Wednesdays are kind of that in between where uh,

(15:43):
you know, I'm still gonna watch an NBA game or two,
I'm still gonna watch a hockey game. But there's not
you know, there's no NFL. You usually know college football,
and it's kind of a bit of a reprieve from
the heavy hitters of the sports world. And so that
I thought Wednesdays might be a good day to stop
down and maybe tap into some of these radio gold

(16:07):
some of these stories you have deep in the bag,
because I mean you mentioned it right there. You've been
in Austin thirty seven years, met you know, John out
in West Texas out.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
In we were in high school together, actually so and
then he went to the Odessa College radio there for
I mean, he did it right. I fell into it.
I got hired in a bar when the midnight guy
didn't show up. So that's how I got my job.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's why I kind of feel like we're a bit
of kindred sp I mean, I went to school to
be a history teacher and a coach.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
And let me say this, the big Puma is the
big Cat. He played college basketball, so he played sports,
not just was talking about it, He actually did it.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
You reference that all the time on your show.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
It was Division three basketball, and I made it about
a year and a half, a year in a semester,
just long enough to claim to put it on my resume.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Ask anyone that's played sports, if you got into college,
anything you've done something. That's the difference between high school
and colleges where it really you start separating it in
from college to pro you really separate. But I always said,
you know, my brother played football at Auburn. He was
a noseman at Auburn. And I went out and watched
one of their practices one time and I went, I'm

(17:24):
not I can't do this. I played. I said, this
is these guys are serious about this, you know. And
that was college. You know, Oh, I can't imagine. You know, that's.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Auburn though that's sec country. I mean you I feel like, okay,
that's a great spot because obviously with the name Bama
Brown connection to Alabama there.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
But well, you know, it's funny. We lived in Alabama
and moved to Odessa. My dad was in the grocery
business and he had lost his job in Birmingham there
and my brother stayed and went on to college. I
was in high school, so I ended up at Odessa High,
the poor I didn't even get to the good school,
the Permian in Odessa I got. I was at the
crap school because we were broke, din't have any money,

(18:07):
and so you know, that's what I ended up ended
up doing, was going to Odessa High. But I had
broke my ankle and so I couldn't play football anymore.
And these coaches who come up that they're at Odessa High,
and they go, what's your name, you know, and I
tell my name and they go, then your brother play
at Auburn And I go yeah, and they go, well,
why aren't you playing high school football? And I said
I got my leg broke, and they wouldn't even they

(18:27):
wouldn't even say see you later. At they turn walk off, like, Okay,
I'm done. I don't need to spend one more breath
with you. You're useless if you can't play, you know,
if you're a big guy and can't play college or
high school football, Get out of my face, get it
go away.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, you're not going to help me get a contract
extension or Odessa Texas.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
You ate, you know, that's what sure?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
So were you mentioned your brother went to Auburn.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Were y'all the Auburn family living.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
My dad, well, my dad went to Auburn. Uh he
on the g I be he got to go and
he didn't play ball, but he Uh my brother ended up.
Uh he was at Birmingham and Shades Valley. They wont
state and then he walked on. He got hurt his
senior year, but he walked on and made the traveling
team and uh and then he uh he he was
there two seasons. Uh, then he got hurt in Oldfield

(19:19):
and didn't and didn't go back for his junior year.
But he went on to coach high school football there
outside of Auburn, and he won several state championships. Uh
he was Uh he had I believe ten kids go pro.
Andre Risen was my brother's high school high school runner.
That's the year they won state and uh and then

(19:42):
uh he had ten go pro and he probably got
close to one hundred into college. Some kids that I
guarantee you that you know, didn't have a dad and
probably wouldn't have done anything if they hadn't had My
brother is a dad driving them, you know, And I
was I'm so proud of him obviously for doing that.
And he's retired now. I went on to come a principal,
but he's retired now. But he had a great he

(20:03):
had a great bunch of kids play football for him
and go on and do college and pro ball. And
if you can help a young person in any way
at all, that you should be commended on every You know,
teachers and coaches don't get enough, they don't get enough respect.
They should, but they don't.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
You know, yeah, I mean as a as a son
of a public school teacher who served her term of
thirty plus years. I you know, I agree with you there.
You're preaching to the choir.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
You meant you.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I mean, you say you're not a sports fan, but
that's a that's a hell of a family tree. Oh yeah, sports,
you know, tangentially connected to sports?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Maybe, dude.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
When I broke my ankle, it was my i'd made
the I've made the senior squad. I was a sophomore
and I had made it. And it was the day
before the Red White game for the school and I
got my ankle broke, and my father actually asked me
to leave the family. When I couldn't flip football anymore.
I'm I'm not feeding you anymore. You're out.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
You got to figure out your own way.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Now, this was I remember when my brother, When my
brother went to Auburn and he came, he came home
one semester in the spring. He was he was home,
and I got him a job roughneck and in the
ole field. That's how I got hurt, by the way.
My dad blamed me for that, but we were both
roughnecks and Odesla you couldn't, which meant you worked on
a drill rig. But I remember going down and spotting

(21:23):
for him one time and he squatted six hundred and
sixty pounds and I was gonna. I was on one
side and this other guy that played at Santa ane
Jelo State, he was on the en. We were trying
to spot him and I told him, I said, I
can't get this off of you if you if you can't.
But I watched him squat at six. He squatted six
sixty ten times and that was like about thirty pounds

(21:46):
below the world's record. And I was going, holy, holy crap.
And the one guy that was impressed with that that
I've told this little bit, Mark Henry works for our station.
Yeah in Austin, and Mark, he's on our Sport station
there in the zone and Mark was the world's strongest Man.
He won that competition, and I was telling him about

(22:07):
my brother and he goes, Damn, that was back in
the seventies. That was that was strong. And I go, yeah,
he was. He was stout. He's still he's seventy years old,
could still probably bench three hundred at this point. I
mean he's still fit. Man. Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
So that's the terrifying the you know when I when
you see the older gentleman like that and just think, man,
that guy could still whip my ass up and down
the room.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Right now, many years on, I love taking over your
show and bragging on my family, but I still laugh
to this day. And my dad, I remember somebody asked
my dad about his son's He goes, well, my one
son's a principal and a coach air in high school.
And I've got this other son. He's a disc jockey,
you know, like he's in Huntsville.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, on death Row Federal Time. You mentioned, you know,
taking over the show. I think Wednesdays are a good day.
As I said, with my sports obsessed brain, something I
have enjoyed that we've done on your podcast is something

(23:11):
we both share a bit of a conspiratorial minded perspective
on live love conspiracies.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
And then also I was born in Atlanta. I saw
the first Falcons game and I saw the first Braves game,
So I saw a lot of baseball and football. Kept
up with all of that, very little, very little basketball
as much as I should. You know, those a Michael
Jordan fan of course, like everybody. But and then I'm
a NASCAR guy. I keep up with Nascar. So if
you get any of that or Indy Car you ever

(23:41):
talk about that, I could probably jump in.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
And you know, anyway, I know, I mean you're you know,
broadcasting live out of dripping springs over there?

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Have you gotten in on the Formula one craze.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Right when it started? We were involved in it, in
it pretty good as far as the station. In fact,
e f Seeen gave me in a ride and you
know on the track owners he gave me a ride
around the track after he had built it. Uh through
Bucky Godbolt. You know, Buckie's is a sports guy, a
big famous sports guy in Austin. And Bucky had hooked
me up with and he took me for a ride.
So I got to see the track firsthand. And then

(24:15):
they had the pace car guy. Uh he has the
school out there, the race car school. This guy is
one of their drivers. He's also the pace car guy.
He took me around at full tilt in his pace
car and that was man, it was crazy. He's he
told me, he said, you need to come out here
and do that. Due that dual Indy car or dual
Formula one where they have the car with two seats,

(24:36):
he said he needed to do that. Yeah, I would
love to do that. I think that would be very exciting.
I've done a NASCAR car like that, but I'll.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Ask you if you've done it at a at a
NASCAR track, because I've gotten uh got to do that.
Whenever I was younger with my old man, he took
us up to you know, Texas Motor Speedway right back
in my old neck of the woods, and we got
to do the ride along you driving school experience, and
that I mean it just it offers an entirely new perspective. Yeah,

(25:07):
what that acts because you watch it on TV and
sometimes you know, for me, it looks like a video game.
It just looks like a simulation and you don't realize
the physical toll or what that feels like on your body.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
If you're if you're not a car guy, it's just
idiots going in a circle. I mean, that's what my
wife calls it. But and you can watch any NASCAR
race the five last laps and you've seen, you know,
the race. But I enjoyed. I enjoy this strategy behind
it and all that kind of stuff. And I grew
up with it. You know, they're in Birmingham, Allison's and
all those guys. Every Friday night race there in Birmingham

(25:40):
and then Talladega. We would go to Talladega and watch
them and been to ben fort Worth see seeing the
guys race. There is a great track. You owe it
to yourself to go and watch one race. You've got
two of the best tracks in the world. You've got
the fort Worth track and then right across in NUS
you've got the top dragstrip in the country. If you've
never been to a top top race in the NHR,

(26:03):
you have missed something because the noise alone is just
I mean you can feel in your chest and it's
just awesome. I'm telling you. It's fun.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, you know it's not. It was nothing world class.
But when San Antonio lost the drag strip down out,
I see, yeah, that was that was killer. I mean
the first we moved here in twenty eleven, and for
about the first three or four years we lived here,
we were out there, you know, once a month on

(26:31):
the weekends just or you know, on the open house
nights where you know, bring your own and going out there.
And even if we weren't running my car, it was
just fun to go out and see what other random
people were running down the strip. I still still wish
we could get some funding back behind that thing, because

(26:52):
it doesn't It was a.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Does a neat track and they ran it well. It's
just hard to make them go. But I always love
the funny cars. When the funny cars had come, I
was a big nitro guy. I love that. And San
Antonio had the Mexican Jumping Bean. It was just the
best funny car in the world. You know, I had
quite a few. They had the guys that owned the
Vintage Air in San Antonio. They had their their top

(27:15):
fuel car that they ran for years and it's actually
in Dripping Springs. A friend of mine owns that car. Yeah,
it's restored, looks like today they ran it down there.
It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Damn that's cool.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, I know you mentioned, you know, not a big
sports guy. I know, I've got a lot of I
got a lot of old boys listening that love to
hear these kinds of stories because they good good amount
of car guys, or at least you know, guys that
appreciate a fast car like that. And uh, you know,
it feels like we've lost a lot of that with

(27:50):
that track closing down, lost a lot of that culture
around it because even you know, going out there, you're
you know, talking about going to a NASCAR race. It's
the race is one thing, but just the party and
the environment and walking through it's basically like going to
a swap meet or a collector's you know meet up
or something. Just seeing what everyone has built and put together. Uh,

(28:15):
you know, that was the most fun for me going
out there, was just seeing what everyone else was running,
or what they had built, or you know, what somebody
had added on since the last time I saw their car.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, there was a there's a lot of fast cars
out of San Antonio. They really in all over Texas,
but especially down there. There used to be a guy,
uh he's no longer with us, But there was an
engine builder guy. There's also pro stock racer Jerry Jenke
was from there and uh he was an engine builder
extraordinary and we raced against at a pro stock car
when I was a kid that was partners in one

(28:46):
and uh, we raced against him a couple of times
and they were It was a lot of fun, you know,
back then. I remember, I have a great story when we.
I was also involved in a top alcohol drags or
team out of Houston. Uh, Troy buff who still races
NHR all. Uh. But we were racing Division four and
there were some guys, you know, there was us and

(29:07):
then there were some other guys that had money. You know,
we were poor boy in it. There was a couple
of teams that were poor guys. But we'd race against
some money guys and didn't have We just loved them.
We liked everybody. But we had some buddies that ran
had a rubber chicken tied to their wing of their
dragster and uh, and they had gone a couple of
rounds and they were about to get into the money

(29:27):
round and face the big money guy, you know, the
pro team, and he goes, man, we need the secret weapon.
We're going to have to get the secret weapon out.
And I go, what's the secret weapon and he goes,
it's a secret I can't see you. And so he
finally said, all right, I'm gonna tell you. Come here,
and they tied a second rubber chicken to the other
side of the and of course they got beat but

(29:48):
that was cool. But you know, we had fun and
we want to race up in Hallsville. We won the
division race there one run in Baton Rouge in a
top alcohol diracture. That was that was it was expense
is that one In the process they just ate money.
Well he just sat there. They would eat money. So
it was don't get into that sport unless you just
have you know, endless buckets of cash, because that's what

(30:10):
they do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I uh, you know, my grandpa growing up, we had
a we had a dirt track oval uh one town
over and they for a while, my cousin was running
a car over there. My grandpa was you know, had
mcnal on their team, and it it just seemed like,
I mean, first of all, you're you're not going unless

(30:32):
you're just a prodigy, you're not going to go any
further than that.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh no, that's it.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, hobby it's one as hell, but uh, it requires
really your main job is just making sure you're continuing
to have any amount of sponsor money to even keep
the thing on the track. And it As a kid,
I loved watching and going to the races, but all
I remember is hearing my grandpa talk about how miserable

(31:01):
it was the whole time, and I would just think, well,
then why do y'all do it?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
It's like, well, because it's fun as hell. I mean
it's great.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, it's just when we were, when we were bracket
racing and hobby racing, that was so much fun. And
then when we started we weren't pro. We weren't, but
we ran in some pro classes with this pro stock car,
and it became a job and it wasn't fun anymore.
And to me, it was just I kept the paint
and you know, it's you know, I was a mechanic
on it, but mostly just painting body and keeping them

(31:28):
and god, I'm not it just kept you wore out
all the time, and you'd get you know, we get
paid to show up and race, and and uh, we
wouldn't win. Very much. But we we were there to
get fill out the field, you know, and we did
that and tracks all over New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana, everywhere,
and the food was bad and the travel was terrible,
and it was always you know, the tracks were unsafe.

(31:50):
But we had fun, you know. But then once again
it was it was a lot of work and and uh,
people have no I couldn't imagine doing it as a
as a pro. Like Formula One. It's fun to watch
the Formula One show up at the airport on the
on two jets and then all the cars and all equipment,
everything travels on two separate gets. It's a it's just
a show. They bring the town, you know.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
It's why.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I mean the fact that the fact that, you know,
some of those pit crews are literally recruiting guys from
NASA or you know, top tech technology tech companies like
that to come, like, no, stop working on a spaceship
and come change tires one. I mean obviously more than

(32:33):
just changing tires some of those guys. Uh, but yeah, no,
the you know, I remember back as a kid in
the nineties, you know, my dad growing up in a
small town up in North Texas, it was my dad,
I think, was just a bit of a contrarian when
it came like. He didn't want to be a NASCAR fan,
so he was a Schumacher fan.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
He was a one fan. Uh you know.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
One Christmas, I had a little you know, racing jacket
from the old.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
McLaren team man, I think McLaren team.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
It was you know, hearing him and my grandpa argue
back then NASCAR versus Formula one and back I mean
Formula one compared what it is now in the US
compared to back then, it's just insane. I mean, now
Austin is the most attended race on the entire circuit,

(33:28):
or at least it has been in the past, and
it's three races now in the US.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Over one hundred thousand people from all over the world.
It's it's absolutely We went one year, Jamie and my wife,
Jamie and I were out there and uh where we
sat there was a media section, but it was all
not one person around who spoke English. It was all
these different languages. It was being spoke, you know, and
everybody was enjoying it. But you watch Lewis Hamilton get

(33:53):
out front and then you know, for two hours. He
just everybody's single file. It wasn't real racing, I guess.
But and that's what I loved about NASCAR. You could
have the guy at the end, all of a sudden
be the guy leading. And that was what I enjoyed
more about it than Formula one. But Formula one was
was I liked it.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Also, you know, Formula one is way more of a
math equation. It's way more of a Look, we know
our driver is a robot, he's a machine. I know
exactly what this car can run lap after lap, we
know exactly the you know, degradation of where we're gonna fall,
you know, ten laps later on the same set of time.

(34:30):
All of that, it's all so calculated that it does
take away some of the competition at times. And just
the fact that, you know, the twentieth car on the
grid realistically has no chance of keeping up with never
top eight, much less you know, trying to even Uh
they're more worried about getting from twentieth to sixteenth than

(34:54):
trying to win the race. So I hear, you know,
I've got a bunch of friends that uh, you know
a lot of what you you know, paired a lot
of what you just said, there's not really a whole
lot of racing. It's just a giant math equation. It's
a giant simulation that that doesn't leave for much drama,

(35:15):
right Nascar, Like you said, I mean you could have,
but you know.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
It's interesting in white out. In many foreign countries, it's
it's the soccer syndrome. It's Soccer is huge around the world.
Formula one is huge around the world. And like when
Art and Senna, there's a movie out right now called
Senna and he was he was in A guy tried
to explain it to me when he got killed. Uh,
he was a Formula one driver. When he got killed,

(35:41):
the entire country of Brazil shut down for five days.
He goes, it's like the president, the greatest movie star,
and the greatest athlete all in one gets killed, national
hero and literally the country for five days, the entire
country is shut down. And if you ever meet anyone

(36:02):
from Brazil, and I've met a couple of people and
they just go, I'm sorry to have what happened to
Art and Senna happened, and they will get serious no
matter what you're talking about, they'll get serious and thank you.
If they're brazil if they're real Brazilian. And the two
that I said that to you, I said, I said,
I was so sad about Art and Cinna, both of them.
Thank you, thank you very much. I appreciate you saying that.

(36:24):
I mean, that's that's what. So when you're as a
race car driver carrying that kind of uh you know,
uh uh I guess uh grown glander grammar or whatever
whatever the word I'm trying to say. Uh, when you
carry that kind of stroke around, that's that's pretty impressive,
you know so, and they do that in all those countries.
All of them are heroes.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
That's what I love about you mentioned. You know, you
sit like when we go to the race every year. Uh,
you just you know, sitting at a bar with all
your buddies talking in English, and next to you there's
a couple of German do the other side of you,
there's someone speaking some Scandinavian langua Finish or Swedish, you know,

(37:06):
something of the sort. Uh. And then you hear the
real dorky Williams team, you know, you hear the real
dorky British guys behind you. But the universal language is speed. Yeah,
And racing. And that's uh, you know, out of all
the sports that we have access to here in our backyard.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Uh, Formula one is different like that.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Like you say, it is so global, it's hard to
compare it even to something like NASCAR because I like,
you know, Australia has their uh you know, V eight racing,
all the Vauxhals, Japan still got the the supercar, stock racing,
stock car racing. But Formula one is just it feels

(37:52):
like it feels like it is all pomp, circumstances and show. Yeah,
then someone else backs that up somehow still delivers on
all of that.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Absolutely that the jet setters, that's what they used to
they would call them that. It's pretty cool. I always
thought it was pretty cool. But one thing I promised
that I was good to tell Sam. I was like,
I'm not gonna come on here every Wednesday and just
wear y'all out with car talk. It's funny that we
get into it.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
You're already stumbling into the Formula one. No, I think
these Wednesdays are, like I said, going to be a
good opportunity to sprinkle in a little more non sports
into the weekly run sheet. Because I mean, I know Uh,
you got the conspiracies on CALLI of them anytime.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, I love them all.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
So you shut my wheels off with the other day.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
You actually owned John Wicks car for a while.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I did the Chevelle. If you watched the John Wick movie,
The Dark Green Chevelle with the White Stripes, it was
in one and two. I actually owned the car from
the movie. After the movie came out, I went and
got it and I drove it for a couple of years.
And it was funny because I take you to the
car show and these little kids had come. Eight nine
year old kids come and go, can I get my

(39:11):
picture with John wickcar? And I go, your mom, let
you watch John Wick.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
My god.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
They go, oh, I love john Wick and kills everybody.
And I'm like, oh my god, this country.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
That was my first reaction too, of like, well, maybe
that might explain a few things there if you're if
they had they.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Used three in that movie, they had an actual SS.
Mine was a clone, but they had an actual SS
big block car. And the guy told me, he said,
I talked to the stunt guy that drove this car,
and he said, we had that that real one. We
wouldn't even let can who sit in that car. It
was one hundred and fifty thousd dollars car. They still
have it, but mine they had sold. And then when
the guy helped me get it, and they sent me

(39:50):
a nice letter from the movie people to you know,
it was documented. You know that there it was a
real deal. And then they had a stunt car. They
didn't the first of the first ten seconds of two,
he a guy in a motorcycle crashes into it, and uh,
and it actually caved in the wheel and everything. That
was a real stunt. The guy went over the hood
and flew into a mattress. But uh, that car wasn't

(40:13):
even painted on the left. It was funny. He had
a picture of it on the left side. It was
in primer. They don't you know, it's just for the movies.
And then mine was mine was just for the sound
and everything. This is a Malibu three fifty, but it
was painted to look like a SS and it looked
just like the real one. And and I drove it
around for years there and dripping a couple of years,
and then sold it to a guy in Nashville. And

(40:34):
now it's in a museum. They have a museum in
New York for a culture movie Culture museum, and it's
up there along with the Mustang they got like the
guy stuck the deal through the windshield and that he
you know, the one that's tore up real bad where
he pulls up and John Lonzogano starts telling him I
needs this, it needs that, you know. So those two
cars are side by side in the museum up there.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah you mentioned you know that was a real stunt.
That correct. I think I'm right.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Like the guy that wrote and created John Wick was
a former stunt man.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, that's why all of the choreography and all of
that is so perfect because it's really from a you know,
the perspective of a guy.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
That would fly over the hood for a random stunt
like that.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
He sent me some pictures and videos the stunt guy
did this wasn't the director he was, but he had. Ah.
There's one on that there like downtown New York and
it's my car in the in the beauty car they
called the real one the beauty car park next to
each other downtown New York, which is cool. And then
there's a video also he sent me at night they're

(41:41):
downtown to night filming and people are walking along and
there's you know, they're obviously movie people, but down the
street and there's the Chevelle's in the far lane, there's
nothing in the middle lane, and in the close lane
is a pickup truck with the cameras on it and
they're going wide open. I mean it was real. They
were really racing down down New York City in downtown.
It was cool.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
So and a couple of big blocks of like that's
I love it that it's something so uh, you know,
redneck like in the middle of New York City, New
York City.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, they were racing down there.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
That is spectactically.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
That was cool to see that kind of stuff. But
he was the one that he goes we put headers
on it, and he said, we put a shift kit
in the transmission to do the burnouts because it was
it was a stock three fifty. It wouldn't do a
I mean it barely spin them. And we actually shot it,
uh we Yeah, we shot an episode of it with
a mand in me in it for Iron Resurrection, but

(42:38):
we never did use it. We just I don't know,
we ran out of you know, we already had more
than we needed, but we had it for backa. We
were going to show it one time. If we just
forgot about it.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Really you roll footage, well we might. I bet we
could find a use for some of that. But we
might need to roll some of that and review it
in a future episode because I I think, uh, like
I said, I think we're gonna have point any of
content to get us through fight your your claim that
you are not a sports guy.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
I do.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Car racing is sports. That's still a lot of sports.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
I watched the whole World Series this year, and I've
been I watched all the NFL games, so I'm pretty
much and I like it. I'm a Green Bay fan.
I know that's gonna make some people.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, all right, Yeah, that's where we end the interview.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Okay, you claim Bama, you're from West Texas, but a
Green Bay fan.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I loved because Bart Starr. And I was also a
Longhorns fan because of Tommy Nobis when you know, went
to the first Falcons game and Tommy Nobas was one
of the first franchise guys they signed from UT and
so I loved Texas and uh, and of course I
was a Falcons fan. But it's hard to be a
Falcons fan. Man, That's that's hard. So and I just

(43:56):
like Green Bay because of Bart Starr. You know, it
was a quarterback and when I was a kid, and
and I've always liked Green Bay Packers. I'll root for
them no matter who they're playing, even the Cowboys. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I was about to say, that's where we're going to
have to draw the line because as infuriating as the
Cowboys make me weak to even when they win, I
like set because now it's a worthless win and they're
just running their draft position right.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Anything they do.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
There's some way it upsets a large majority of the
fan base.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
But they just can't get it. They just can't get it.
I mean I was thinking with Cede Lamb this year
and I was just thinking this was our year. Man.
And I'm not a Dak fan that much. There's a
joke going around, you know, the you know what Dak
Prescott and Billy Graham having common.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Oh I like where this is going. No, both of them.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Both of them could get a stadium full of people
to stand up and yell Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty accurate.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
That's uh, that's whoever that's got a future in comedy, Right,
that's pretty accurate. I you know, the Dak thing is,
it is what he is. It's he's a He's a
On his best day, he's a sixth, seventh, eighth best
quarterback in his league, or in the league.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
On his worst day, he might be worst quarterback in
the league.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
College a really good college quarterback. I don't get it.
I never did get it. But last few years, man,
it's been hard, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, And it's funny you say that, because it feels
like it feels like, for the first time in my life,
the Cowboy the apathy around the organization is not just
from the you know, die hard. For years, Jerry has
been able to lie to everybody about like we're all in,
we're doing everything we can. But then they've been able

(45:52):
to manipulate the media or make it seem like, you know,
they're really spending money when they're not well.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Now, the way.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Information is so easy to attain, everybody can see that
he's just lying through his teeth, right and saying, you know,
trying to create his own narrative. So for the first
time in my lifetime, it does feel like some of
the total apathy is spreading through the fan base, which
might be in the long run, the best thing possible,

(46:22):
because that might be the only thing that actually spurns
any change. See, look, you just we made it through
some Cowboys talk here.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
I think there should be one game where nobody goes.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
I think this would be awesome.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
This is the one thing that I honestly I mean,
and I know it would hurt some feelings because there's
some really hard playing guys up there, But I think
one game just no one goes. And man, I went
through the Houston Orders games where I was there a
bag night where there'd be about five hundred people at
the Astrodome with a sack over their head and not

(46:56):
sit there the root for the Oilers. They come on, guys,
you know we can do this, and of course he
gets snot beat at him. And what happens when that
happens is somebody buys the team from Jerry. And I
think that's I think that's where it all starts and
stops with them.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I think, you owner, I have a conspiracy theory when
it comes to the Cowboys, is that on Jerry's deathbed
he finally reveals to his kids that he is not
passing the team down. To them, and it's his will
that the team will be sold to the highest bidder.
They will split the money evenly amongst themselves. But then

(47:32):
if they want to buy an NFL team, they can
go out and do it themselves.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Right.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah, And as much as I don't believe that, I
think we're stuck with the Jones family for the rest
of our life. But God, I hope that conspiracy would
turn out to be true, even if there's only a
five percent chance at best.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
That would just be.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
I've met his son. His son thinks he's smarter than
his dad about it. Well, and I can run this thing.
It will be. And I'm sitting here going, you inherited money.
You didn't do anything. You just you just going and
you know, going to the games and watching and some
of the coaches they've had, you know. And I remember

(48:13):
one time they were so bad that the chan Gaily
did my show and I asked him if I could play,
and he asked me what I benched. He was that desperate.
He's like, well, bamoo, what do you bench? You know
what You're I'm like, I don't bench anything. I was
on the bench all the time I played. So but
you could see he was desperate.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
The chan Gaily Dave Campbo.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Oh that run that was And that was right as
you know, kind of my sports consciousness was awakening. It
was when I was hitting that age where I actually
knew who the coaching style, I knew who the offensive
coordinator was, who the you know, I actually understood more
than uh, you know, just sitting on the couch watching

(48:59):
the game on some day.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
And then to be, you know, have the the.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Super Bowl success before I really knew what was happening
as a little fool, and then immediately be faced with
these next twenty five almost thirty years of literally being
one of the worst franchises. Uh not on like average wins,
but just the fact that what it's only Washington and Dallas.

(49:29):
Washington's the only team in the NFC that hasn't been
to an NFC Championship game since the last time Dallas
was there.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I mean even Ryan's done it now, they did it
last year. So it's uh.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, I think back back then when the Cowboys were
going to Super Bowl, I was in Odessa. That's what
that's what we had. We weren't you didn't watch the
Oilers down there. There was a few Oilers fans, but
most everybody was a Cowboys fan in Odessa because that's
who we had. And man, those were some solid years,
but those were great games. And you know, Lakeman Stallback,

(50:02):
Stallback was a he was a king man. And then
went to Houston and you had, you know, Earl before
I got there, and it was Earl left Earl right,
you know, right after left there, and uh, but I
stayed in Houston and then I I mean then they
started sucking before they got sold. So I don't know.
Everybody's got an opinion about it, but I think I

(50:23):
think he needs to sell it and get some from
top to bottom of New Blood and they're running the show,
and maybe it would do something.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
You know, I'm telling you it would be hilarious if
it turns out that he's just gonna sell it out
from under his kids on his deathbed.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
What is it billion a year? Two billion that it's worth.
I mean, it's like.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I think they're up to I mean, they're the most
profitable in the world, but I think the most recent rankings,
I mean it was closer to like eight or nine billion.
Really that much, it's insane, No, it's uh, it's like
again to be the most profitable sports team in the world.

(51:04):
With the lack of actual success they've had in my lifetime.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
How do you explain Jerry's a hell of a business man, he's.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Not a best Yeah, I'll give him that.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I will give him that. Wellbama, I appreciate it, man.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I think this, Uh, I think these Wednesday visits will
be a perfect way to cleanse the palette a little bit,
because I know we've got something we share in common,
you know, the conspiratorial I can't wait to tell you
some of the YouTube wormholes that I find myself going down.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
And I know, I know our.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Listeners, my listeners would usually sometimes I get down a
wormhole and they're like, all right, that's too much, tell me,
tell me more about how you hate Jerry Jones. But yeah,
I think I think I can see, uh see a
good path forward. Well, give the people again our project,

(52:02):
your podcast. Let them go behind that.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, it's Abama Brown Experience, and it's on the It's
on the free iHeartRadio app. That's how you get it.
Just go to the Bama Brown Experience. I think you
can do Bama Brown Radio or Bama Brown Podcast dot com.
All three of those dot com dot com or just
go to the free iHeart app and go to the
Bama Brown Experience and that's how you can get me
and Puma. Pum was on their every show with me.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
So yeah, thanks Ride. We've been you know, the last
we've been doing it. Yeah, yeah, it's uh.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
We love any feedback emails, whatever you want to do,
we'd love to hear from you. We'll read them on
here and online. And of course I think you do too,
so you know, I love love to hear your opinions.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
And when we first started doing this thing, you thought
we would make it possibly through the end of the month.
I think you even put it you even by a
few days. Well, December twenty eighth, I think was where
you went where you put it down on paper where
you think they're gonna finally pull the plug.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
But yeah, yeah, as I'm winding down, I don't I
don't think anybody's gonna maybe they'll listen, I don't know,
but you've got listeners, so maybe I can still come
on here. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Like I said, I think the uh, I think the
crossover here uh will will benefit both and really uh
you know benefit uh the the twelve people that you say.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
You've got several thousand, I'm actually talking to people here
or something.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Joy, I'll tell you the uh.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Sometimes I mean I I maybe this is something I
should ask you.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
With your Hall.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Of Fame career and your ability to handle success. Sometimes
when I see some of those podcasts downloads come in,
it starts to be like, holy hell, there's there's that
many people that are listening to me bitch about Jerry Jones, yeah,
or talk about the college football a playoff rankings or

(54:01):
whatever it is for for the days.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
That's why I encourage. The thing about podcasts is cool
is that you you can actually instead of radio and
we've both done radio over years. That radio you're stuck
listening to us. In the podcast, your letter gets read. Man.
You know, we we we'll give you your We'll put
your opinion out there for people to hear. And that's
what's great about a podcast. You know, and you and
you're not bound by SCC. We're not gonna get on

(54:25):
your cuss all the time. But you can say stuff
that you know is real.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
You know, so the lines are a little more blurred.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
You don't have some corporate ga going well, you can't
say that the advertisers are gonna pull you know, I've
had that thirty seven years of that. You know I
don't so.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, it seems like, uh, there's there's not nearly as
many consultants in podcasting as there are radio. Yeah, that
feels like that feels like the perfect off ramp as
we wind out here, Bam. I appreciate it till next week.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Enjoyed it. Thanks everybody.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Ah, there he goes.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Good dude, Bama Brown Again. He will be joining me
now on Wednesdays as his schedule allows, but as a
semi retired radio guy, his schedules pretty wide open, so
I should have him on most Wednesdays. Moving forward again, y'all,
I appreciate the support as I have spent the last

(55:29):
two weeks helping build his new show alongside him. Definitely
go give it a listen, Bama Brown Experience. You can
find it same place you find this podcast. Go out
and give it a listen. It's more of a daily
quick hitter. Most of the episodes are under ten minutes,
so it's super easy to take in. Definitely go get

(55:49):
caught up on those. Looking ahead to tomorrow's show, we
will get into our Thursday Pigskin previews and do a
little Cowboys recap from the last two weeks, because, as
I said in the opening today, even when they win,
it drives you insane. So all that tomorrow. Again, appreciate

(56:10):
y'all support.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
As always, we.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Are crossing the threshold of hobby to full time focus here,
so as I said, I appreciate y'all support. I will
try not to get freaked out by some of those
download numbers, but till then you'll be safe.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
We'll talk tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Kids. What do we say about drugs that yeah,