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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like like blight by.
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Light the Beam. Indeed, we're back for another non victory
Monday edition of the Sports Cave with Biggest Puma once again.
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Speaker 3 (00:43):
If you missed that, definitely go back give that a listen.
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Broadcasting live to tape here from my normal sports Cave
on the east side of San Antonio on this Veteran's Day,
twenty twenty four, nineteen days now only nineteen days till
Texas v.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The renewal of the rivalry and with how crazy the
SEC is getting, that could turn out to be a
de facto elimination game as it pertains to not only
the SEC championship game, but maybe the twelve team playoff
as well. We'll talk a lot of college football on
the program tomorrow. Our normal Tuesday college football recap in
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the main segment. Got a lot of NFL to get
to today as we do a little NFL looxie, and
with the Cowboys being so terrible with really no signs
of hope, you can expect Mondays to be very NFL heavy,
not just Cowboys heavy, because I'm not sure how much
time they're going to end up deserving during the main segment.
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Moving forward, we'll get into them. We'll still spend a
little bit of time each week talking some Cowboys, but
as always, we start with what I watched last night,
and Mondays means what I watched this past weekend, excluding football,
so you can already guess it was a lot of basketball,
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starting with the spurs disappointing loss Saturday night, a.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Game that ended up.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Being a one point game but really might as well
been a four point game if it wasn't for the
buzzer beater three there at the end, A rough call
on Wimby with ten seconds left ends up handing the
Jazz the game.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I say, handing them the game.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
San Antonio's own Jordan Clarkson still had to make the
free throws to ice it, and alas he did, you'll
recall it was Clarkson who drew the call on Wimby,
a call that the Spurs end up challenging and losing.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I'm getting to the point now where I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Not exactly sure what is even worth challenging in the NBA,
because the lack of consistency of what calls do get
overturned and it takes it seems like in crunch time
it's a lot harder to get calls overturned, but if
you do it in the first quarter, they're more than
happy to give you the ball. It was a close call.
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I mean, I think by the letter of the law,
I understand how they didn't overturn it.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
It was probably a moving screen.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Did Clarkson embellish, Absolutely, but you embellish to get the call.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
He got the call.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
They end up looking at it and still agree it's
a moving screen. On Wimby, Jazz get the ball or
Jazz get the free throws ice the game certainly a
most unfortunate result, after starting the home stand with the
win over Portland, now dropping a very very winnable game
against a struggling and rebuilding Jazz team, a team that
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you absolutely have to stay ahead of if you have
any dreams or hopes of making the play in This
was one of the three games on this homestand where
the Spurs are playing an opponent lower than them in
the standings. They won the Portland matchup, lost this one,
still have the Wizards coming up later this week, but
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now that just means if you want to have a
winning homestand you got to either beat the Kings or
the Lakers. So it wasn't all negatives coming out of
the game. Saturday, even with the final result going the
way it did. Got a big bounce back game from
Wimby after his inefficient shooting last game. He drops twenty
four points on eight of fifteen, six of nine from threes,
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sixteen enormous rebound, seven blocks, great stat sheet individually, did
have six turnovers in his thirty three minutes on the court,
but you'll take the six turnovers when he fills up
the rest of the stat sheet the way he did.
Speaking of filling up the stat sheet, we got to
see Devin Vessel phil a stat sheet for the first
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time this season. He makes his debut coming off the bench,
goes out missus his first two shots, but then goes
eight for eleven the rest of the game, three of
six on threes.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
He finishes with twenty one points in twenty two.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Minutes and really kind of surprising to me, looks like
he's ready to slot right back into that number two
scoring option. I didn't didn't know where his rust level
would be or exactly how many minutes they were going
to play him, But twenty two minutes in your first
game back, it's a solid number. And to score almost
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a point a minute while you're out there on the court,
that absolutely bodes well to opening up some of the
spur spacing issues on offense that we've talked about previously.
And then the only man that played more minutes on
the court than wimby Saturday night, Steph Castle gets his
third NBA start. He ends up playing thirty five minutes
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and goes for a career high twenty three points on
a very nice eight for sixteen shooting night, three for
seven on three, adds a three assists, two rebounds, So again,
not all negative, but just a rough night for the veterans. Combined,
Harrison Barnes CP three only combined for thirteen points. CP
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three was zero for six, but he did have nine assists,
so at least he was contributing other ways to the
overall offensive production. But you're not gonna win many games
this season where Harrison, Barnes and CP three are combining
for basically six and a half points each. And it
wasn't like Utah had anybody just go off and completely
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destroy the Spurs offensively.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I mean, you had a poor shooting night.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
From marketing, he's only five of fifteen twenty points mentioned
Jordan Clarkson sinking the game clinching free throws. He ends
up pouring in sixteen points off the bench, but again
on five of fifteen shooting. Also, Colin Sexton had their
most efficient night on the court. He had twenty three
points eight of thirteen shooting. But the real story was
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just the easy baskets that Utah was getting. You know,
Utah outscored the Spurs by twenty points in the paint,
and when you're playing a really bad team like the Jazz,
bad on paper in comparison to the rest of the league,
you can't give a bad team easy baskets. And unfortunately,
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the Spurs did a little too much of that throughout
the game to hang on there at the end or
mount the comeback there at the end. And that's why
this one hurts a little more than it should not,
because the Spurs were going up against former legends like
Patty Mills and Devin U Banks who didn't make it
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into the game but was on the bench. Nonetheless, it's
really weird seeing Patty Mills in a Utah Jazz jersey.
But it hurts even more because they've already put themselves
a couple of games in the hole, losing to team
that they expect to be better than. And these are
the kinds of wins or losses when you look back
at the end of the year and you finish a game,
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game and a half, three games out of a play
in spot, this is the kind of game you remember.
You know, if we had beat Utah, we were rolling
on a two game win streak going into that Kings game,
and then maybe you beat the Kings, and then you
beat the Wizards on Wednesday, and all of a sudden,
you're on a four game win streak with still four
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of your next six games at home. Got to take
advantage of these early home games, especially when you know
you're going to be on the road a lot in
the second half of the season. But can't get too
positive about a win like they did against Portland, can't
get too negative about a loss against the Jazz because,
as I said, Kings tonight, Wizards Wednesday. Win both of
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those and you're right back to five hundred. It's worth mentioning,
you know, the way the Spurs started the season last.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Year so poorly.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know, they didn't have their They didn't get their
fifth win till almost the turn of the calendar year.
I think it was it was late December when they
got their fifth win. So well ahead of where things
were last year, especially when you factor in the early
season injuries they're dealing with. Speaking of Malachi Brandham didn't
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play Saturday night after the injury against Portland. It looks
like he's going to be a game time decision to
night against the Kings, but I would probably lean towards
the side of him missing another game tonight. So you're
down Brandham, You're down Jones, You're down so hand at
least till Christmas. Ish, you gotta start putting some wins
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on the board against teams like Utah, because if you're
not careful, you start falling so far behind the rest
of the West that then it's time to start thinking
about maybe shipping out some of those veterans that only
combine for thirteen points in a game against a West
Cellar dweller, but maintain positivity.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
It is still very early.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
We'll talk some more general NBA discussion on Wednesday's episode,
because there are a few teams that had high expectations
for this season that are trying to maintain some level
of positivity themselves after terrible starts, some slow starts, and
then some absolutely what is happening? How are we at
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the bottom of the conference starts. I'm looking at you, Milwaukee,
I'm looking at you Philadelphia. We'll get into a lot
of that on Wednesday's episode in the main segment. Wednesdays
are the day we designate for basketball talk, specifically NBA talk.
But another team looking to maintain some positivity is the
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Dallas Stars. They are only they're one in three now
since they left to go play the two games in Finland.
They drop both the games to the Panthers overseas and
now still seem to be spinning their tires a little
bit now that they are back on American soil. They
fall Saturday afternoon to the unbelievably hot Winnipeg Jets. Final
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score was four to one, but it really it could
have been worse. Than four to nothing. Winnipeg had four
goals in the second period when they chased Ottinger from
the game. He ends up letting in four goals on
fifteen shots before the Stars make the goalie change. Smith
comes in doesn't give up any more goals, but the
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Stars don't score until rope A Hint scores with a
minute twenty minute twenty two left a bit of a
deceptive score not in favor of the Stars. It could
have been a lot worse. And I say the insanely
hot Winnipeg Jets. They are now fourteen one to start
this NHL season. I think a lot of people knew
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they were going to be good, but I'm not sure
anybody outside of maybe the Jets play by play announcing
team that could have told you they saw this coming.
But kind of like the Spurs, Stars are right back
to it. They play on the road up in Pittsburgh
tonight facing the struggling Penguins. So if you are looking
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at games to try to right the ship this early
end of the year, I say, right the ship. The
Stars are still eight and five. That seven and two start,
It's given them a little bit of wiggle room to
figure things out. Here, but they got to figure it
out fast because just like in the NBA, even more
so in the NHL, you can start a tailspin and
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it's really hard to get out of it if you
let things get two out of control. I won't bore
y'all with too much hockey, but I gotta mention it
when the Dallas Stars play a Saturday Mattin game that
I was squeezed in time between all the college football
to flip over to that victory plus app only to
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be quickly disappointed and in the way that game went
so quickly flipped back over to college football. And we'll
talk all college football tomorrow in the main segment, but
I guess it's time let's talk about the return of
Micah Parsons and the defense that saved the outweight. Nope,
I'm seeing it was yet another resounding loss at home
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that sounded a little something like this.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
There's so much on the line here for the Cowboys.
They're missing so many parts, but they just don't have
a lot of room for air or losses the rest
of the way.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah, this is their last stand. To me, I feel like,
right now, you get Michaeh Parsons back gives you that
sense of optimism. You're right here, new quarterback. You gotta
stay in it and they're gonna give everything they got.
Welcome back, mister Parsons, and he is making himself felt
on that football field. Jalen holds out the ball a
little too long. See it's the call.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Hell let the pup pops out and Cashi recovers in
the end zone.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
All right, clock operator, just click that to Seria real quick.
Nancy needs a bathroom bringing no noon, Maybe I need
a hot dog break. I'll get you.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And we're just convinced that these sun rays are creating
havoc with the players, including on that second goal pass
play that CD never really reacted to the football kind
of in the area.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
And it looks like you couldn't quite pick it up there.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, oh man, where to start?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Somehow in a meaningless blowout, a thirty four to six defeat,
there is somehow so much to cover from this game,
because it was a very Cowboys esque game in the
way they lost. Although I do want to hear some
follow up to hear if Romo ever got Nance that
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hot dog that he promised him. It was one of
those games where Nance and Romo were just trying to
find bits to keep themselves entertained in the second half,
because once it went south for the Cowboys, the game
lost all energy and it was just true Cowboys sikos
hanging around to watch the final whistle.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
We got more sad cowboy fan memes.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
The poor lady on the verge of tears might have
even shed a few tears while the camera was on her.
We had some idiot holding up a sign wanting Romo
to come back and play, which led Romo to do
his best old man dad.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Ah, yeah, Jim, if it wasn't for this shoulder, yeh.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It was a brutal watch, and not just because of
the football played on the field. I mean the first
half I had to catch myself at times thinking, Okay,
maybe the defense can hold the Eagles to a reasonable number,
that Cooper Rush can lead the offense to put some
points on the board and actually keep this thing not
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even close and interesting, but maybe they can pull out
a win. Well, those hopes were dashed right at the
end of the second quarter. I mean, you look at
the overall numbers, Cooper Rush goes thirteen of twenty three,
and you think, okay, decent percentage from a backup decent
completion percentage. How many yards did he throw for Jim
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That would be forty five, Tony. We had a whopping
one point five yards per pass attempt yesterday in that game.
And while the run game showed flashes, I mean, Rico Daldel,
I don't think was at all the problem yesterday. He
again is, for whatever reason, splitting carries with Zeke. Who
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will get to in a second. With Zeke returning from
his one game suspension for disciplinary reasons that every announcer
continues to say it was by mutual agreement. I don't
know many people that get suspended for a game by
the team that then it turns out, well.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
No, it was mutual agreement Zeke.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
We decided alongside Zeke that he needed a game off
to get his head straight Again.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I ask why is he even still on the team.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
The answer is simple, Like most things with this organization,
it's because of Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Jerry loves the man.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Jerry sees the jersey sales of that number fifteen Ezekiel
Elliott Jersey.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That's why he's on this team. Still certainly not to
win football games, but.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
At this point hell, give Zeke every carry every game,
because now the focus needs to be on losing as
many games as you possibly can to increase the odds
of getting a top ten, top five draft pick. But
as for the game yesterday, Cooper Rush's terrible numbers. The
entire offense only accounted for one hundred and forty six
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total yards, not to mention the five combined turnovers, no
interceptions from Cooper.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We got to see Trey Lance late. He throws an interception.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Rush had two fumbles of his own, one that led
to an easy scoring drive for the Eagles, and not
only did it lead to the eagles first touchdown of
the game, it was the timing of how it happened.
Because I mentioned you're getting you get Michael Parsons back,
he goes out, he has two sacks in the game.
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You know, as a team in the first half, the
Cowboys had five sacks on Jalen Hurts and even more
importantly resulted in forty six yards and losses.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So you were getting pressure on Hurts.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You were in a good spot to win the field
position game because you knew this was going to have
to be a defensive led effort.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
If there was any chance you were winning.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It, and then your backup quarterback goes out and fumbles
a pistol snap on the second possession of the game,
setting the Eagles up deep in Cowboys territory. That should
have been the moment where I realized, Okay, this is
exactly what I thought it was going to be. But no,
alas I stay bought in at least through the majority
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of the first half, because it's easy to chalk up
Rush's early fumble to starting quarterback Jitters after sitting on
the sideline all season, and then the Cowboys immediately come back.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Respond with a field goal.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Eagles drive the length of the field again, or this
time the length of the field, but Trayvon Diggs comes
up with the interception. So they're doing just enough to
keep the thought that maybe maybe they can be led
by their defense, who has been terrible all year but
finally starting to get a little healthy. Still missing Deron Bland,
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which is huge, but getting Micah Parson's back, he hit him,
making an immediate impact. Carl Lawson getting another sack after
the two sack game in Atlanta last week. Again, these
are all the things that are going through my head
until we got to the end of the second quarter,
where the last five minutes of that second quarter were
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just about the perfect encapsulation of where this team is
right now. At this point, it's still a seven to
three game, and just for a reminder of what led
up to that final five minutes, Cowboys start with a punt,
Eagles respond with a punt. Cowboys fumble which leads to
the Eagles short four play drive for a touchdown. Cowboys
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respond with a field goal, then the Digs interception. So
still a seven to three game at that point. Cowboys
punt after the interception, but the Eagles turn around in punt.
So damn me for buying into the fact that the
trend of Cowboys forcing punts was ever going to continue
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much further than it actually did, because the fact that
they were able to force three first half punts is
incredible giving how poorly this defense has been. But it
was that final five minutes of the second half where
I finally snapped out of the days I was in.
And of course it started at the hands or lack
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thereof of Zeke Elliott, who, for whatever reason, well again
we know the reasons he's still here, but for whatever reason,
it's still McCarthy. That's putting him into the game. On
first and goal from the six yard line, and what
does he do. He ends a seventy seven yard drive
by the Cowboys with a fumble that the Eagles recover
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in the end zone. And my first thought is, I
was sitting next to the roommate watching the game. Is
of course that's what happened, because that is the most
cowboy thing to possibly happen in that situation. Now, to
the defense's credit, they turn around and force an Eagles
fumble two plays later, So the offense still at this point,
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they have the opportunity to take the lead in this
game as the first half is winding down, maybe even
potentially take a lead to halftime.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Not that that matters.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
We saw them blow a halftime lead two weeks ago
against San France, So again you're searching for silver linings
in a tornado. But there was an opportunity for them
to put more points on the board, even after Zeke
fumbled away the previous opportunity.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well, now what happened.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
How about two Cowboys receivers not being able to see
the ball because the sun is in their eyes. Because
once again Jerry Jones is more concerned about what the
game looks it's like on TV than he is about
how it affects his players, And he gave another nonsensical
answer after the game, and quite frankly, you're better off
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hearing me read it to you than hearing him say it,
because it really I think when you hear it, just
read back to you instead of hearing it in his
typical Jerry delivery, it really pounds home the fact that
the man is losing it. When asked about the sun
impacting that specific play where CD and Jake Ferguson both
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lost it, but the ball was probably more catchable by CD,
Jerry responded by the way, we know where the sun
is going to be when we decide to flip the
coin or not. So first of all, right at the top,
he's blaming McCarthy for, I guess, choosing to kick the
wrong direction so then the sun would be in there
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eyes in the second and fourth quarter, at least in
Jerry's head. McCarthy is at fault for that, not the
guy who chooses to keep the curtains open during three
point thirty five windows. Back to his quote, we do
know where the damn sun is going to be in
our own stadium. Again, he's purely blaming McCarthy and taking
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no accountability. Surprise, surprise. When asked, why not put the
curtains over the windows? You know, the curtains that are
already there, the curtains that get used for every concert,
the curtains that will probably be used during World Cup
games because FIFA won't allow this crap.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
And FIFA allows all kinds of crap, but not Jerry's crap.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Of the curtains that will be closed when San Antonio's
own Mario Barrios fights, before the Tyson Paul fight at
Jerry World coming up in a few days, why not
put curtains over the window? Jerry said, well, let's tear
the damn stadium down and build another one. Are you
kidding me? That's not me asking are you kidding me?
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That's him asking a reporter that. And again, these are
the type of narcissistic toddler outburst and replies.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Tear the damn stadium down.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It sounds like Brianna Chicken Fry with Zach Bryan in
an emotionally abusive relationship. No, Jerry, we're not asking you
to tear the damn stadium down. We all understand you
built it the wrong direction. You built it east and
west facing to begin with. We all understand that was
your fault to begin with. It should be north and
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south like every other football stadium in America. Great, you
didn't do that, but you have curtains that could easily
prevent this crap from ever happening again. But know your answer, sarcastically,
is well.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Why don't we just tear the damn thing down?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
This is why people are so apathetic towards the Cowboys
this season, more than any I can remember. Because the
man that has the ability to fix things, the man
that had the ability to give out contract extensions early
in the offseason so they can get some work done
in free agency.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
The man that had the power to draft a running
back in not even asking in.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
The top part of the draft, give me a third
or fourth, hell even fifth round draft because you don't
have a fourth round pick, because you trade them away
for spare parts that you're probably never going to rely
on to win football games. That man is why this
fan base is more apathetic than it's ever been, and
I think it's finally starting to get to him. He
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went on to say, everybody has the same thing. Every
team that comes in here has the same issues. He's
not wrong. Every team has to deal with your idiot decisions.
When it comes to the sun in the stadium, you
built that, now you want to tear down. Jerry continues,
I'm saying, the world knows where the sun is. You
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get to know that almost a year in advance, someone
asked me about the sun.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
What about the sun? Where's the moon?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
This man is the general manager of an NFL football team.
This man is the owner of the richest sports franchise
in the entire world. And he's basically suggesting that Mike
McCarthy should have known whether to kick east or West
a year ago because he got the Farmer's Almanac that
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told him that. Let the Cowboys nihilism fuel you. Because
he's not going anywhere until he dies. He's gonna stay
around as long as possible because he's fueled by this.
He is fueled by the status that being the owner,
general manager, all around football guy. He is fueled by
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all of that. And unfortunately, I think he's a year
older than Joe Biden. Let that sink in. Let that
sink in. He's about to make more offseason decisions in
six months that are going to leave us in this
same position as Cowboys fans this time next year. Maybe
they won't be eliminated from playoff contention by Thanksgiving next year.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
It's looking like that would be an improvement.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
The last five minutes of that first half, with Zeke
fumbling the ball from the six yard line and then
the sun costing them a touchdown because their high paid
number one receiver can't see.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
A damn thing.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
All of that falls on one man's desk, the one
man who will take zero accountability for any of it,
and nothing will change, nothing will change till he's gone,
And cross your fingers, maybe the apathy and anger towards
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this franchise will be so high that Steven has no
choice but to even maybe just conduct business halfway similar
to every other NFL team, instead of doing the exact opposite.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Any chance you get.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It is so infuriating to think about how one man
has so much power over this entire operation, and he's
the only one that conducts business in the entire league
that way, and yet still will face zero accountability with
his pocketbook, will accept zero accountability for the poor product
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on the field, and will continue to do things exactly
the way he wants to do them, because that's all
that matters to him. Again, if you think he cares
about winning football games, show me the actions that support that.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
He could close the curtains next week.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It's a Monday night game, so he won't have to
worry about curtain questions next week. Next time they play
a three thirty five game, he could close those curtains
like Thanksgiving Day. But no, it's a Thanksgiving Day game,
so we got to make sure the TV broadcast looks
as good as possible. Again, those are the things he
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cares about, and it's infuriating. Spend enough time on Jerry.
I try not to get on the Jerry tangents. But
you just knew the way that first half ended, the
Cowboys weren't coming back at that point, even if the
game didn't look as bad score wise as it felt.
They're the worst third quarter team in the NFL. And
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what do the Eagles go out and do they outscore
them fourteen to nothing in the third quarter, and all
of a sudden, the lead is to the point where
there's no chance the Cowboys are coming back. That fourteen
to nothing third quarter put the Cowboys overall third quarter
scoring margin for the season eighty two to twenty two.
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They have been outscored by sixty points in the third
quarter so far this season. Normal football teams make adjustments
at halftime. Normal football teams come out in the third
quarter with some answers. The Cowboys seem to come out
with even more questions somehow, And again it's a lame
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duck coach because the owner didn't give him a contract extension.
Not that he deserved it, but normally, when a coach
wins twelve games in three straight regular seasons, that's enough
to at least discuss a contract extension.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Jerry never got close to that with McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
You can debate the merits of that extension separate, but again,
that's how another team would have conducted business versus what
he did with his lame duck coach hanging over this
locker room. And somehow to make that third quarter stat
even worse, the Cowboys have zero offensive touchdowns in the
third quarter this entire season, so you knew it was
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over with the way that first half ended. At that point,
it was just a matter of will we see Trey
Lance or not, And honestly, will that make any kind
of difference moving forward in the weeks to come. Well,
we got our answer. We got to see Trey Lance.
We got to see him eventually throw an interception. But
the first time he comes into the game, it's for
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a play for two plays, but a penalty negates the
second play and they immediately go back to Cooper Rush.
It turns out he just came into the game for
a specific offensive package play call and then immediately is
taken back out. So they wait for the third quarter
to even try the Trey Lance package, and when they do,
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imediately go back to Cooper Rush, who you've seen can
barely throw the ball five yards without it turning into
a duck halfway in the air. So many infuriating things
coming out of this game, But at the end of it,
I'm mad at myself for even allowing a second of
hope to re enter the conversation like it did in
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the first half. Ooh, Michael Parson's back. Okay, defense is
looking a little Oh and there's a Zeke fumble. Oh,
and there's the sun in CD's eyes. Oh, and then
the Eagles score a touchdown to in the first half,
and probably already have enough points to win this game.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
It should tell you.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
How infuriating it was, because at the beginning of the
segment I said, we weren't going to spend a lot
of time on the Cowboys probably today and every week
moving forward. And yet we've sat here and done twenty
minutes now on just how bad yesterday was. The one
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bright spot in the tornado besides getting Mica back, also
on the defensive side of the ball, the Cowboys can
confidently say they have a real one at linebacker. They
have a legit, high end all Pro potential guy into
Marvin Overshown. His closing speed only continues to increase, seemingly
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as he gets more comfortable playing the position in the NFL.
You know, as more of those defensive reads start to
become instinctual. That just makes his closing speed and overall
acceleration and tackling ability, It makes all of that look
so much better the more comfortable he's getting.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Now, granted, he'll.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Be running someone else's defensive scheme next year, because there
ain't no way Zimmer's coming back, so get ready to
learn a new defense. But I think the Cowboys can
legitimately think that they are covered at least at one
of the linebacker spots.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
The injury concerns obviously missed all of last year what
would have been his rookie year, and turns out to
miss the entire fourth quarter. Yesterday I was reading earlier
he said he actually had the injury at some point
in the first half and was continuing to play through it.
That is until the Cowboys got outscored fourteen to nothing
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in the third quarter, and he said, guys, I got
to sit out the rest of this one, which I'm
all for it. Make as many business decisions as possible
from this point forward. Don't risk long term injury, Dak,
go ahead and have that season ending hamstring surgery overstrown.
Go ahead and sit out a week or two if
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you need to to recover so that you're not continually
banged up throughout the rest of this year.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I mean, hell, Micah, we saw you back.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
No reason to try to push yourself to get injured again,
because you know he's going to be a holdout. Come
training camp, come the off season, come the optional workouts,
come training camp. When Jerry all he'll talk about for
four weeks in California is how there they just can't
give money. You just were spread too thin. We can't
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give money to everybody. And then all of a sudden,
Micah will threaten to sit out the regular season and
he'll get his money twenty four hours before the season starts,
just like CD did. Just go ahead and prepare yourself
for that, because that's what we should be looking forward
to at this point. Look forward to the off season.
Look forward to maybe Jerry or someone getting to Jerry
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and telling him, Hey, we gotta do Micah early. We
gotta cut Terrence Steele. We got to rework Zach Martin's deal.
We got to do all of this business before the
draft because we need the cap space. It's really a
twelve year old On Madden could work the salary cap
better than Jerry and the rest of the Cowboys front office,
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that include Will McLay. I understand you don't have the
title of GM, but you can you continue to stay
there and take Jerry's checks. You could have gone and
gotten that title multiple times over if we are to
believe what's been reported. But Jerry keeps making you an
offer too good to leave, even though he won't give
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you final say or allow you to trade fourth round
picks for spare wide receivers and spare backup quarterbacks. It's
time to start checking the weekly draft rankings because the
closer the Cowboys can get to that top five, the
closer they can get to bringing in cheap, franchise changing
talent at the top of the draft, and that should
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be priority number one from this point forward. I mean, hell,
look at the rest of the games on their schedule.
The only games where they're potentially going to be favored
to win in Vegas are Thanksgiving Day versus the Giants
and on the road versus the Panthers in the middle
of December. Those are the only two games that's a
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five win season, and at this point I beg them
do not win more than five games because the draft
pick at this point is that important to the future.
Because the one thing I will give Jerry and them
credit for they have been great at drafting, and that's
the only reason they won twelve games in three straight seasons,
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because they were able to rely on the draft and
develop depth that they had accumulated they've missed on the
last couple drafts.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
At the top.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I mean, Schoonmaker barely played ten snaps yesterday. That was
your second round pick, Mazzie Smith, who did look better yesterday.
That's your first round pick who's really giving you no
transformative performances that are resulting in winning football games. He
has been average on his best days. Those are the
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kind of picks you can't. So you hit on a
guy in the third round, you hit on a guy
in the fifth round, that's great. You gotta hit on
your guys in the first and second round, and they're
hopefully about to have the opportunity to really look at
a franchise changing draft three, four, six months from now,
whatever that math is. I'm so I'm so exasperated by
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the Cowboys. I can't even count to six right now.
So with that being said, let's move on to the
rest of the NFL real quick. And I do mean
real quick, because I had no intentions of talking Cowboys
for twenty five minutes straight. But yet this is where
we find ourselves. It was actually a week full of
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some close, captivating, and most importantly meaningful games, several game
winning field goals as time expired, but the most memorable
one was actually a game winning blocked field goal as
time expired. The Chiefs end up holding on to their
undefeated status, the last undefeated team in the NFL. They
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win an ugly game sixteen to fourteen, but it was
Denver that had the chance to win it at the end.
But the Chiefs bag of miracles seems to never run dry.
They block the game winning field goal attempt in Arrowhead.
Pat Mahomes goes crazy running around the stadium like he
just won another Super Bowl, and I can't say I
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can blame him. It was a pretty electric moment watching
it from the couch, And unfortunately all of the good
games yesterday were in that noon to three window, so
there was a lot to keep up with trying to
keep tabs on all of the games going on in
the early window. We're not even gonna spend any time
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talking about the early morning window. The game from Germany,
which ironically the NFL has a game in Germany on
Veterans' Day week end.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Shouldn't have to do any history homework to.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Figure out why that's a little weird. But Panthers did
win that game over there. For what it's worth, which
actually it's worth a lot, because the Giants and Panthers
hopefully are teams picking behind the Cowboys in the upcoming draft.
Sticking with some other NFC East divisional foes, the Washington
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Commanders are now no longer in first place in the division.
The Eagles win over the Cowboys matched with the Steelers
victory over Washington, a Steeler's victory that was made possible
one by the apparent career renaissance of Russ Wilson, but
two the addition of Mike Williams at the trade deadline
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on Tuesday afternoon. He immediately comes in after apparently not
being able to run the correct routes for Aaron Rodgers,
he has no issue running touchdown routes for Russell Wilson,
which is the game winning touchdown and the Steelers twenty
eight to twenty seven victory over Washington. And if you
missed how that game actually really ended, uh not with
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the touchdown catch. There were still two minutes, two and
a half minutes left in the game when Mike Williams
caught that what would be the game winning touchdown. Well,
the Steelers ended up getting the ball back again, trying
to run the clock out. They're facing a fourth and
one at about midfield, and they did the old look,
you know, we're trying to get you to jump off sides,
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but maybe one of your guys will slip up and
cross the line, and that's exactly what happened. The poor
Washington player you could see after the game being consoled
by his teammates. I mean, hell, the roommate watching the
game with me even verbally said, oh, I feel bad
for him.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
And it was hard not to feel bad for.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Him because everyone in that stadium knew what Russ Wilson
was trying to do and it worked. Just an unfortunate
play that that Commander's player is going to have to
carry with him, hopefully no longer than the upcoming week.
Hopefully it's not something we look back on and say
that was the moment the commander season cratered.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
But they're still in great shape overall.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
We'll get into all of the divisional standings on Thursday
as we preview this next NFL week ahead, but I
mentioned the game winning phild goals we saw yesterday. Well
before we saw San Francisco kick the game winning field goal,
we saw Deebo Samuel put his hands around the long
snapper's throat because Jick Moody had already missed three kicks
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during the game before he makes the game winning phield
goal from forty four yards as time expired to give
the forty nine Ers the win over the Bucks. They
end up winning twenty three to twenty And if you
watch that game, you got to see Baker Mayfield make
some of the most exciting plays not hyperbole, I've ever
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seen from a quarterback in a single drive.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
And it wasn't just me saying it.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
It was the greatest quarterback of all time saying that.
Tom Brady even said I've never seen a quarterback make
the plays that Baker Mayfield did on that final Bucks drive.
And Bucks end up having to settle for the field goal, unfortunately,
which only tied the game and left the door open
for the Niners to kick the game winner before time expired.
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But at one point Baker Mayfield had Joey Bosa on
one arm as he's just giving him a stiff arm.
But it was almost like your uncle in the backyard
who's just holding your forehead away from him as he's
trying to throw the ball. It was. It was pretty spectacular,
and Baker's been great all season, but that dry you
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would have hoped would have paid off in the long
run in something other than a loss, especially a heartbreaking
loss the way that fell for the Bucks, who now
find themselves two games under five hundred and in a
bit of a rut, although the Saints did help them
out significantly by beating the Falcons yesterday. Saints get that
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win over the Falcons pretty surprising as far as the
rest of the afternoon games. The Bears slide continues ever
since losing on the Hell Mary to the Commanders. They
fall to the Patriots nineteen to three, where now it's
starting to look like Caleb Williams kind of like Demarvi
and Overstone. Get ready to learn another playbook next year,
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because you're going to have a whole new system. Bills
handle the Colts. They are in firm control now of
the AFC East. They beat the Colts thirty to twenty.
The paper Tiger that is the Vikings barely snuck by.
The Jags won an ugly football score twelve to seven.
The Chargers, year one of hardball, continue their momentum as
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the season gets deeper and deeper. They beat the lifeless
Titans twenty seven to seventeen, and then your NFC West
leading Arizona Cardinals beat the Jets thirty one to six,
just about putting the Jets in the same position as
the Cowboys are now with a season basically lost at
this point. And lastly, in the Sunday night game, we
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got First of all, we got another game winning field goal,
but I think more importantly, we had an NFL team
win a game where their quarterback threw five interceptions.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
The last time that happened twenty twelve Atlanta with Matt Ryan.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
The second to last time that happened Tony Romo in
two thousand and seven, which is the only reason why
I'm mentioning it. Lions end up overcoming Goff's five interceptions
win twenty six twenty three over the also sliding Texans.
Fifty two yard field goal by Jake Bates gives the
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Lions the win. And now, speaking of the Texans, they're
a team that has lost three of the last four.
How fired up you think they're gonna be for Monday
Night in Jerry World, where the stadium is gonna be
sixty forty Texans fans seventy thirty Texans fans.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
I mean, I'm at this point, I'm rooting for the chaos.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Anything that's going to make Jerry Jones's butt itch and
having Texans fans invade his stadium that he now wants
to tear down. That's gonna give him a pretty nasty
case of the butt itch come next Monday night, because
the Texans will be absolutely looking to embarrass the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
So there's your quick look around the league.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
I can't in today's episode on such a down NFL note,
so let me give you this if you missed this
over the weekend. I didn't include it in the what
I watched because I knew I was gonna be pissed
off after we talked NFL, so it felt like.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
A great way to close.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
San Antonio is home to one of the best athletes
in their sport right now, and he's only twenty four
years old. I'm talking about one of the best three
pound for pound boxers in the entire world. You want
to tell me best five, sure.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
I won't argue with you.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
There's no way there's five boxers that are pound for
pound better than Bam Rodriguez right now. He once again
put on another show Saturday night, third round knockout, defending
his IBF super flyweight title, and of course telling you
all this doesn't quite do justice to what it sounds
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did like, Man, we have no problems so far against Gavary,
no problems as far as offense.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
But right now the only.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Issue Bam is having is pinning down the tricky hitting
it down and nothing to do whip shot straight. We
scared that pan cos it side of the South past,
so you a little bit different and hurts in a
certain manner.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Dan Cat Gibar trying to escape.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Man, there's so much.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
Time to work with.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
We're only in around three.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
Gavara trying to fight his way out of this trouble
with a beautiful right uppercut.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
That's a that's a dangerous, beautiful shot. I haven't stopped it, Jessie,
Bam Rodriguez head good.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
As it gets, as good as it gets.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Indeed, I thought we could use a palate cleanser there
to end this episode, because I know there's a bunch
of y'all walking around san Antonio with your head slump
because of this Cowboys season. But if it provides any solace,
just know san Antonio has one of the best boxers
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in the entire world right now and he's only going
to get better. And with that said, that will do
it for the Monday Edition coming up tonight. We got
Kings at Spurs, we got Monday Night Football, got that
Stars Penguin's Game.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Cover.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
All of that on the episode tomorrow, as well as
our college football recap in the main segment, where we're
gonna hear from an old friend of ours, none other
than our good old friend Tom Brenneman, who found himself
calling a football game featuring a quarterback who shares a
last name with a baseball player. Old Tom is all
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too familiar with. We'll get to all that tomorrow. As always,
I appreciate all of y'all riding along. Thank you again
to all the veterans that have served. We'll talk to
you all tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
Kids.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
What do we say about drugs?
Speaker 4 (51:10):
J Yeah,