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August 18, 2025 125 mins
High school football stadiums, hemp drinks, creatine overdose, NFL male cheerleaders, sports gambling, Denzel on sports opinions, Kaep vs. Spike and more.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Enough is enough.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I don't have any serious up and we hold the
world ransom for me.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Excuse me while I whip this out. Broadcasting live and Atlanta, Georgia.
This this is the Sports Shock Show with Wayne Dandy.
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Comes to none?

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Is it just.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
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Speaker 6 (00:42):
Made Bill Vegan.

Speaker 7 (00:43):
Welcome, Welcome, welcome, I mean listening to the Sports Shock Show.
I'm the Sports Shock Wayne Canny, Good morning to you.
We are live here on Monday, and what a quick
August is rolling by h We have reached the eighteenth
day of August. We are about seventeen eighteen days away

(01:08):
from a kickoff for the NFL, about two weeks for
college high school football. If you watched ESPN on Thursday
night started it season as well. On ESPN two, you
had the Milton game versus Buford here in Georgia, up

(01:29):
in Beaufort's new sixty two million dollars stadium. I typically
don't announce the financial part, but the key to that
is I said high school sixty two million. So that
is a kind of odd thing when you talk about

(01:52):
sixty two million high school stadium for most of us.
You know, you barely can find a functioning bathroom at
most high school now. The concession stands are so antiquated,
they're older than and then Big Kenny says, I am

(02:16):
X and you go to them, it's just a brick room.
There's no technology in them at all.

Speaker 8 (02:22):
And they still service snacks like salt water taffy. We've
got butt of Scotch kids.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
So to see a high school for you out there
and this is I mean, this is a thing for
the country, and I think that's why ESPN went in there.
I would love to go around the country and see
other high school venues. I'm imagining some of the games
we see a lot of the times the backdrop are
more high school teams playing at college or professional stadiums

(02:56):
when you see those backdrops. But for something to be
like that, I buy it, Like, Wow, this is a
nice stadium. I've been up there to it and replay,
and they got all kinds of video and they can
announce just like the colleges.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I heard they have.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Is it.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Fifteen luxury boxes? Yes at Buford, Yes, I think so.

Speaker 8 (03:22):
Fifteen luxury boxes listen, now, listen.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Now, what I'm saying is Georgia state. I don't think
when they took the old.

Speaker 8 (03:38):
Okay, which might be you know, which might be why
they got a little bit of space for it.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
But uh, that's uh.

Speaker 8 (03:47):
That Buford Milton game highlighting just what the state of
Georgia produces when it comes to athletic talent and what
people are willing to invest in that talent.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It definitely if you go to a game.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
Since I've been calling game, we start here enjoy September fifth,
gpb our Broadcast starts calling games, which will be the
third official week of the high school season. But when
you go to Beauford, Beauford, the city operates like small
town colleges. And when I say small town colleges, I'm

(04:25):
talking about a big university like the Tuscaloosas and the
Burns and the Georgia's that are in cities that basically
operate around the sports idea. In Beauford, Georgia is as
strong as anywhere I've ever been, where the people are supporting,

(04:46):
where it's no matter where you move to, you still
go back. If you're still in the vicinity Wolves Country,
you go back to Wolves Country, they tailgate, so you
pull up where they're not doing anything that commandchie Greg
wants to do, barely gets the game at kickoff. Now
now they start tailgate today high school today for tomorrow's game.

(05:11):
I'm there to see the game.

Speaker 8 (05:13):
And it was interesting in interviewing because it's been such
a highly covered media event. In interviewing the head coach,
they asked him, what would you attribute to this being
this type of expense?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Would you say that it's worth it? And why would you.

Speaker 8 (05:35):
Think someone would spend this amount of money? And he said,
our fans deserve this the way that they support us.
This is something that they should have as fans.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
And once you built that new high school that they
go to, you had to build a stadium that was comparable.
I mean when you pull up to their off the
red light, you look over, you think it's some kind
of big time industrial or oral cool yeah, Apple building,
and then they tell you know, that's Neuford High School.
And it's like, oh, I should go back to high

(06:07):
school and try that out again, see if I can
work in this place.

Speaker 8 (06:12):
I was speaking of work, and I wonder how the
staff is like sixty two May you know in the stadium.
You could have gave me an extra one hundred and
fifty dollars a week.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Are they sweating about that? I don't know. I can
imagine strike now.

Speaker 9 (06:27):
Yeah, teacher's like, wait a minute, now, do I know
what is technically the most expensive high school football stadium
in America?

Speaker 8 (06:35):
It's in Texas, right, I would imagine. No, it is
not Pennsylvania, no, California. It was we just don't go
through the United States.

Speaker 9 (06:48):
Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium in Campon that is
technically a high school stadium.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Is it still used as that? Is that?

Speaker 7 (06:57):
Because I know when they is that what they turn
earned it into that? That's what because it's it's that's
the high school place. Yeah, right next to yeah, so
y yeah they played they yeah, they play there. Okay, Okay, Well,
in a town like Canton, I can see that because
it's similar to Buford where they plan on doing, you know,
bringing small or medium sized concerts as a city. Because

(07:22):
for you that don't know, beaut for Georgia, if you've
been to Atlanta, be for Georgia is about forty miles north. Yeah,
you know, up by Lake Leanie. Have you ever heard
Lake noneer. It's up in that area, and I think
part of the stadium was that really between here and there,
there's only maybe one venue, the Wood and I know

(07:44):
i'm talking local news. There's only one venue to host stuff.
So I think part of the city idea was we'd
feel like the can't. Yeah, they were going to try
to out. Yeah when those those A listers that are
now B list performers that no longer command one hundred

(08:07):
thousand dollars because it's a it seats what eighty five thousand,
eighty five thousand people.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Are I'm not sure how many it seats. I'm not sure.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
We have to check that out. But that's what's going here.
High school football is kicked off, so we are going strong.
Got a lot to talk about, Big Kenny h Commandchi
Greg in the building. I read one of your articles.
One of you guys sent me that. Also here in Georgia,
one of two three states, Snoop Dog is going to

(08:37):
be selling HEMP beverage.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Now have you you would have imagined that I would
to send you that store sports.

Speaker 7 (08:47):
Jack No, no, no, I know COMANCHI. Greg is all
into theative arts. Yeah, this was this is what I
called him the Creative Arts. This is on Atlanta News first,
so it's on local TV. Then have you had hemp
in its own like, I'm trying to figure out what
it would taste like.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't. It's a hemp beverage. I remember years ago
we had the guy on that had built the car
out of hemp. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (09:16):
Yeah, Now I've I've tried a hemp juice and they
say that it tastes like juice and you don't taste
the hemp in it, but it tastes like hemp in juice.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
So I'm saying it tastes just like weed and juice.
That's It's just you know.

Speaker 8 (09:36):
So I don't know if Snoop is selling wheat juice
or this is supposed to be We've gotten.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
The Does the juice doing it in that form make
it hit you faster.

Speaker 10 (09:52):
That that?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I guess that depends on the individual as far as
like and see.

Speaker 8 (09:57):
It used to just be in an effort to mask
the flavor and give you a different way to consume it.
But now with the power drinks and the energy they
they're trying to combine the two to give you the feeling.

Speaker 10 (10:11):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Is it illegal?

Speaker 7 (10:16):
So I pulled you over for a traffic stop. I
walk up to you. I see two cans of the hemp.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
We got it.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
They're open. We've got it. We've got open container. Yeah. Oh,
and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (10:35):
I was wondering, does it register, because it's not like
if you walk up, well and I got a can
of red, Remember you're gonna But I didn't know him.

Speaker 8 (10:43):
Remember that we talked about the test strips, because that
would essentially be sort of like an edible. It doesn't
have an alcohol smell or so an open can of him.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I wonder. I don't know yet because a lot of
this stuff is new, so I can imagine the putt.
It might need to run a commercial let people know. Well,
I don't.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
Well, you got to catch me with it first, and
I go, it wasn't the law when you caught me.
Until they go, Okaycause when you make.

Speaker 7 (11:14):
Something, when you make things drinkable people, you almost like
kind of unzip it and make people feel like it's
a legal Yeah, if it's not alcohol, right, it's a
portable legal beverage for thirst, for refreshment. You can already
see the arrest thing on the camera. Yeah, trying to explain, No, officer,

(11:37):
it's not alcohol.

Speaker 8 (11:38):
No, it ain't not. I ain't drinking the car under then,
mister Big Kennedy came under the influence. No, no, I'm
just drinking weed, sir. I'm not under in fluent. I'm
just drinking weed, sir. This ain't no or nothing or yeah,
what's the other? Running back and was trying to explain

(12:01):
that I'm just smoking. I'm just what you're talking about.
What I'm saying, Nah, I ain't drinking.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
You pulling me over.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
Yeah, it ain't alcoholic. I'm just drinking drug. We'd be
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We were just talking about Snoop Dogg. He's going to
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Speaker 7 (16:11):
I guess he has permission in three states because the
article says Georgia and two other states. He's going to
be selling this him beverage. And it takes us to
our next story. Here about Ben Griffin, the PGA player.
This weekend at the BMW Championships. I had a terrible

(16:35):
first round. He says that he odeed on Creatin and
I had never heard of that. He was saying that
he always drinks Crewdon doing his time out on the course,

(16:58):
and I guess at this particular point whatever batch he
went to had all cluttered up, and when he went
to mix the drink and proper dosage, you know, well
you know how like you know, salt and things, you

(17:19):
get those clusters. But I guess of the moistness it
pulls it together. It makes like he says that he
kind of quickly put it in because he was rushing
its water bottle. I guess it didn't dissolve. However, he
was drinking it and he drunk more than he should have.

(17:44):
I think he called a snowball. Yeah, yeah, snowball of
it went down his throat where he's saying it like
almost like yeah, it felt like a piece of glass,
but it was concentrate rated creatin right, and that's what
had him shaking and all that his erratic play there

(18:07):
on that first round of the BMW Championship with Scotty Scheffer.
Scheffler won the BMW, which he's been on a hot
streak since you put them cuffs on him.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Street Crag Street, Craig.

Speaker 8 (18:22):
I'm saying, you know, the struggling, the struggle is real
when you're fighting against the man you fight a little harder,
you fight a little harder. But I would I would
have loved to have seen that creatin explanation from the
side of the road. What's wrong with you, sir? Oh
bro even with that terminology, I'm snowballing. I'm gonna need

(18:48):
you to step out the car, sir, I need back up.

Speaker 15 (18:51):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
I didn't know that creatin could do that could give
you jittery unsteady nurse either. I thought it was an
they have it in a different kind of I thought
it was a nutrient. Yeah, it's it's a supper. I
thought it was like in powerformance. I thought it was
like a pre workout type of thing. You take it
before you put it in water or whatever before a workout.

(19:17):
That's what I thought it.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Was me too. I mean, you'll looking over here like
I got another I don't. I don't really dabble.

Speaker 8 (19:25):
And then to have a n product to have a
specific uh language like snowballing, that's you know, come on, man.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I don't know. And I guess the thing that six
is like do you need that to play golf?

Speaker 9 (19:41):
I thought golf was I mean, I know it's it's
an athletic activity, but I didn't think all that was
necessary to play.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
No, I didn't know.

Speaker 7 (19:50):
I thought he's trying to find on edge. I guess
he's talking about it like Big You and Big Kenny
are saying like it is more of like a stimulant.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, that's how that's how it makes it.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
Then it is some kind of nutritional supplement gator Rade
type drink, yeah, because they have things like that to
kind of keep you nourished.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Right, So.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
Electro likes so you don't feel like you're weakening as
the course goes. But he making it sound like you're
drinking and be like, hey man.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I'm on the ninth hole. That's cool. I didn't even know. Yeah,
he's right.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
I've never overdosed on Criton before, but I think I
did in the moment because I didn't really drink any
water after that. I basically just inhaled a snowball. I
started getting super shaky. See the truth of Set You Free.

Speaker 8 (20:53):
I was sitting here thinking it and said, no, I'm
not gonna say that, and then one of our low
listeners held the Casey Hugh said he got his little
baggage mixed up. I was thinking the same thing. Now
you know what you trying to you trying to you,
trying to pre golfers. Golfers don't live that car you

(21:16):
took that. Let me get you to wink. Yeah, golfers don't.
Somebody got drunk tested for They came out and they
I got to explain this somewhere. Tiger and John Daily
would never disrespect the course like that. And you know
both of them were listening to this story like, well

(21:37):
not not there, not up. Come on, come on, tournament,
you should have went with sleep aid you just that's
the best you can do. Come on, come on, b g,
come on, you shake it because of your Korea. Man,
you just said you should have said some of that

(21:58):
other Casey saying it might have been another white supper.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
Yeah, it makes you should have said your hand some
snooped you. There's there's other white substances that make you
shaky and jittery, allegedly, I've heard from what I've heard,
that's that's what they tell me. Now you know, I
have no personal experience with shaking white substance myself. Uh,

(22:21):
And I'm I had to go with Casey. When I
first read the story, I was giving Ben the benefit
of that.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
I wasn't. I never was.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
I knew from the beginning when he said snowballing, How
that's too specific in your language, sir, you u speedballing,
that's what you was thinking about. I was shaking my
cribs and yes, didn't break down. We did not thought, hey,
and we didn't all been there, Am I right? Shaking
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Speaker 1 (22:48):
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Speaker 8 (22:51):
Little I know y'all was thinking I was on something,
but it was just a little creating over there. I
never had even though in my whole life, I've never
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Cribs and we we might need to test that. Whatever
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And now back to the sports John Wayne Gandy in
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Speaker 7 (26:56):
Welcome back to the Sport Shock Show. I'm the Sports
Shock Wayne Gandy. Good morning to you as we are
rolling into the beginning of the last week of preseason football.
I remember only three games down the NFL in the preseason.
They took that fourth game and pulled it into the
regular season to make a seventeen game season. So even

(27:21):
though we are seventeen eighteen days from that Thursday night
game the kick off the season on the fourth of September,
we still have one more preseason game to go. Did
I say that that Scotty Shuffler did win? I know
we were talking about being Griffin. Okay, Scotty since the cuffs,

(27:42):
I'm saying now, I one like nine tournaments now listen, now,
didn't golf supposed to be the gentleman game. We out
here with snowballs, we in handcuff. This sounded like that music.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Now, are we at the b ET Award? Are we
at the Masters Tournament? Are we but being just gotta win?
And for you out there, hey, hit us up. Let
us know you think being Griffin PGA Tour just mixed.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Up his bag. Everybody's saying that. Everybody's saying it.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
Everybody's saying no, because he wouldn't have had that other
drug that you might be referring to in his bag
at the venue what he would have had.

Speaker 8 (28:25):
If they look similar. You sound like a dude that's
never been addicted to drugs. He sounded like a dude
that don't use drugs at all.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Listen.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
One of the attractions that people have to drugs is
they're portable.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
You could take them anywhere you go.

Speaker 8 (28:42):
I'm saying, drugs are kind of like a best friend everywhere,
and people are always happy to see them when they
get where they going. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, you take it out.

Speaker 8 (28:54):
It's a nice day, you walk in, it's sunny. Why
not have some cruis. I'm going to the course White
the first round. Yes sir, yes, sir, the best time
to do it.

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But listen, listen, love what you do and you'll never
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Speaker 8 (29:12):
Ben Griffin one of the great stories so far this year.
He just was a creek creatin overdose, that's all it was.
And we didn't all done it at my right overdose.
We had a snowball of creatu and was like, ah, freeze, freeze,
and got jittery.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
And then they they wanted to stop. They wanted to
make your heart stop beating so fast. No, I never
needed nor can and that what it's called. Yeah can, Yeah,
But how did you know that's what it's called? You
see it be signs people the people did never oh
d say stuff like what the stuff that they bring

(29:54):
you back?

Speaker 7 (29:56):
The name of it, that's what they always use on
the TV show, the doctor shows and stuff. They talking
about the football season, something that is already in motion
where fans are upset. The Minnesota Vikings, the New Orleans Saints. Uh,

(30:17):
there's other teams that have already instituted this. The l
A Rams actually take credit for being the first team
to have male cheerleaders, but the Viking fans and the
Saints fans over the last week are kind of upset
that their two teams are adding more. I don't I

(30:39):
couldn't find something that said this is they're adding their
first male cheerleaders as much as it's saying there they're
adding more. I mean cause because the first night at
first we was we was d e eye witty.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
You feel me?

Speaker 8 (30:54):
You feel between we we the e eyewitny gone, brot
let us try to get on out there with him
and do it a little two four six eights. You
know what I'm saying, Bro, you could be the pyramid base.
We cool with that now the whole front line, dude,
brou and And to make sure because a lot of
us do know in these situations, I think they're constituting

(31:20):
the men as cheerleaders, so not the one you know,
like in college, like a squat, like you're saying, the
males that hold them up and they have on the
whole the different they're still labeled as cheerleaders. Yes, yeah,
but that's competitive cheer, not the same like it's not Yeah,

(31:43):
it's not competitive.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Cheer, No, no it's not.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
It's more synchronized dance in the NFL is sort of
their cheerleading style.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Well, I'm differentiating between how these male cheerleaders are performing.
They're not the base, they're not the hole the ladies.

Speaker 8 (32:03):
Yeah, that's something that actually full fledged cheerleader, cheerleaders, pump pums,
all that kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (32:12):
The franchise confirmed that there will be a total of
thirteen men on the twenty twenty five Saints cheer squad.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Out of how many cheerleaders.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
They added, I guess they added three men and got
rid of three women. The Saints, the Vikings this season,
the Panthers, Bucks, Chiefs, Colts, Titans, Patriots, forty nine Ers, Eagles, Rams,
and Ravens will all feature male cheerleaders cheerleaders on their

(32:49):
squad in twenty twenty five. But the uproar, I think,
like I said, is not that because sometimes if you
don't differentiate, then you never I like to start in
the middle of something, and it's kind of like bick
Kenny is saying, I was cool when it was four
or five, and now you've decided to triple that right,

(33:12):
so that if you don't put it that way, you
make it seem like I'm just completely against it.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
And not that that's right.

Speaker 7 (33:22):
So I'm not taking that stance that right or wrong,
I'm just telling you this seems to be that these
teams well might be adding too many or the sensibilities
of their fan base.

Speaker 8 (33:38):
And I get confused, as there was a time when
the cheerleading was demeaning, and then it became empowering, and
then it became something that when the guys wanted to
do it. Now you're taking opportunities away from females, and
then it became the quality thing. And now it's we

(34:02):
got to be more representation than even the people who
were originally included in the group. And the NFL has
said that they go with what the fans want, so
we have to assume that this is what the demographic
that supports that franchise is asking for.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
And this is where we always talk about how from
the conception of this show, we labeled it sports entertainment,
right because that's what sports has gone. Sports now has
to function as a as though it's a movie set,
right Like we got to check the boxes of all

(34:47):
the all as chlobe. We got to make sure we
have of this or that we have to have it visible.
We have to make sure the announcement last week we
were talking about the first female regular season umpire, right.
And when I first saw the story, I was sitting
there thinking that had already happened, because I guess enough time,

(35:12):
once they're on the field, you're going to rotate them in.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
At some point. You can tell me that year one,
while I'm not an UMP, right, but by year ten
and I keep putting in for the UMP ship, you
get spring training.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
So it has become that when you look at some
of the cases, you look at what they are measuring.
It's no longer jazz, I put fifty three men on
a field and let's go win a football game. And
you would almost think that the NFL has gone corporate

(35:52):
or that they're not privately owned.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Well, and I want it in a sense, they're not
on the stock market.

Speaker 8 (35:58):
Remember when we talked about the changing of the names
from Guardians and Indians, from Redskins to Commanders. A lot
of what was said, is the franchise, the people that
this is supposed to have been offending, never asked for
this stuff. These were the fans saying that you should

(36:19):
do something to make it right.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
And is that this kind of call again?

Speaker 8 (36:26):
Is this the NFL going, Hey, look man, let's do
something to make the fans happy right now. So what
we're gonna do is we gonna make because right now
we see a push we see a pushback the other
way of restricting.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
The DEI mindset.

Speaker 8 (36:43):
And this seems to be the well you're still safe
here kind of move, like, not only are you safe here,
you can flourish in sports where we still invite everybody
to watch and spend their money and come and enjoy.
We got shops and games and all of that at
our sports venue for you.

Speaker 7 (37:02):
Well, you you always have different mindsets of ownership and
who run teams. I think now we're starting to get
to where the owners of teams are more business minded
than they are sports minded. We at our age just
happened to be from a time where the owner were

(37:22):
more more football based. So football was first, business was second.
Now you have someone being the buying the team that
used to be in Silicon Valley. The guy for the Clippers,
Balmer is Balmber. Yeah, Steve Baber, Steve Balmer. So you

(37:47):
imagine and he goes and now he owns the Clippers.
He's gonna his whole makeup is business. So he's going
to cater everything to how what is going to generate
more profit from the club house to what is represented.
He's going to feel like I gotta go out. Like

(38:09):
we were talking golf, the Masters had to go out
and add female members. Yeah, remember we were that about
ten years ago. They had with the Master with Augusta
Augusta National and they was a private owned club, but
people was putting pressure on them that they didn't have
a female member.

Speaker 8 (38:31):
And now when you said that the Saints male cheerleaders
would be performing capacity more like the female cheerleaders, are
they going to address the same Are they going to
the same routine or.

Speaker 7 (38:45):
Well, I think yeah. I'm just trying to get you
to understand it can be both. Most of us are
used to male chick If you went to college that
had any kind of he's holding the megaphone and he
was yeah. So it's not that you're not used to
seeing male chill writers. I think in the NFL and
as they are growing into pro sports, it's not just

(39:07):
reserved to do that right, right, that whole pyramid, strong guy,
old the big horn, run with the big flag. Right,
that's a college right, male cheerleader. For some of the
stuff they want to do in college, you actually need
somebody wrong, big and strong. But at the Saints, how

(39:28):
they do that there They're actually in the dance routine
and things like that. So we'll see how that trails
into the season. We'll be back with more the Sports
Shock Show right after this.

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Speaker 7 (42:03):
Welcome back to this boy Shock Shun this boy shock
Kwayne Candie. Good morning to you out there in listening land.
We have had another death in the world of bodybuilding.
They in that sport alone have lost six bodybuilders in

(42:33):
the last six months months. Excuse me. And on top
of that, you add in that running Coleman I was
at death's door. There was a moment where he was
in the hospital that we were reporting. You know, the

(42:54):
doctor at one point was kind of like, might want
to get the family down here, But last I heard
he did, it's still recovering. I bring this story because
even though it's not a big sport as far as coverage,
you try to you place six deaths on any of

(43:18):
our favorite sports. Even if you just went to if
six people have died in NASCAR in the for six months,
you can almost see any of the Senate closing it
down for a moment. Wouldn't you know what's going on?
Can't you see that at least calling for a hearing

(43:41):
that will be reporting. Hey man, they shut down the
brickyard four hundred this week because Congress said they need
to talk to somebody now.

Speaker 8 (43:49):
And I think I think personally, I think personally, the
only reason it hadn't been addressed yet is if if
for years, if for the entire time that NASCAR existed,
people were going, Man, those cars go too fast, and
in the first six months somebody was killed. They'd be

(44:13):
quiet for a little while because they're going. They're sitting
around trying to figure out, how are we going to
address the fact that, yeah, these cars kind of go
too fast. And now it's getting hard to ignore that
a lot of people associate body building with supplements and
all kinds of power enhancing drugs. And it would seem,

(44:36):
at least to a reasonably suspicious mind, that six people
in the same industry in a short span of time die,
not get sick, not are afflicted with some side effects.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
Die.

Speaker 8 (44:53):
It's almost akin to fentanyl hitting street drugs. Everyone is
now get there in their municipalities, getting their EMTs equipped
with our darcand because you never know when you're gonna
get shaky on the back nine from overloading on creatine,
you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
So now.

Speaker 8 (45:16):
Maybe that's the reason nobody's man, we got it. We
really got to start circling the wagons. And what are
we going to do when we shut this down? How
long is this going to be shut down? Will constitute
cleaning it up? I mean we're talking about.

Speaker 7 (45:33):
And that's the part why I said, it's it for
six people in six months. That's various, various ages, So
it's not like six, oh yeah, we're talking about from
like twenty one, thirty seven, forty three, fifty like for

(45:57):
that to be it.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
And I guess I'm a little.

Speaker 7 (46:02):
Always heightened because I always see how especially for the
NFL with the concussion thing.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
It threw me because.

Speaker 7 (46:12):
I didn't get how the NFL got labeled for something
that you had said, you don't know when it occurs.
The young man, unfortunately, two weeks ago that went up
there to the NFL offices, yeah, never never even played
college football, had decided, and you imagine everything that he

(46:35):
felt that got into his head came that we were
reporting it from an NFL. He didn't go to the
NCAA offices. He didn't go to some kind of National
High School Football Association office. He had decided because we
have decided that it's an NFL thing. But I can't

(46:56):
tell you when you get ct I can't tell you
that once you went to play junior year of high
school football, CTE was already in the works in your brain.
However it works, maybe you're born with it.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Who knows.

Speaker 7 (47:14):
I'm just gonna put on the NFL though this NFL.
Oh no, I know, but I know not. But I'm
saying it got to be them. It's it's like it's
not like it's like a virus, they like injected. And
I'm not making light. I'm saying, but bodybuilding and others.
And I'm like, cause I just look at sports as sports.

(47:35):
I just know six people six months Congress would have
been on steps in somewhere. If six Major League Baseball
players have died on the diamond, yeah, they would take
at least a week, like, oh, y'all got to stop playing?
What's wrong? Is something in the soil? Similar to the
remember the horses horses? Yeah, at the track where they

(47:57):
had in the track. It was a TV show, No, no, no,
this TV show.

Speaker 8 (48:06):
And there was a particular track in California, in California
where about seven horses had died, and they shut the
track down to do some sort of investigation on why
that number of horses was dying in that particular area.

Speaker 7 (48:23):
Because if I'm a on the Senate committee and you
bring this as evidence, I'm not sure I'm not voting
that we need to ban bodybuilding well, forget the substance.
Now you can go over out of the country and
do it. I don't have now see in the United
States of America now now, But.

Speaker 8 (48:42):
This is the thing sports Jack, if we're to believe
some of what people say about sports, and not all
of its sports is about profit and bodybuilding as they
don't have those big TV rights deals I aim as
other leagues have. But you can guarantee that when one

(49:05):
of those bodybuilders comes out and says, I use this supplement,
they make tens of billions of dollars on people running
out to get that brand of creating. And then when
they hear this guy go, who I had the shakes,
bodybuilders go, that's the stuff I need. And so nobody
wants it shut down because that's going to affect the

(49:25):
bottom line. So I'm imagining for me it would be
just a flat out safety issue. And elder Casey Hughey
asked were there any commonalities in their depths. I would
imagine that would be an autopsy report, which when someone
dies that young, they usually.

Speaker 9 (49:42):
Do one well, so onesphyxiated. The most recent one, there's
no cause of death announced. One was attacked with a hammer,
so it's probably not related necessarily, but with the other
five there's there's I think there's some kind of connection.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
We'll find out if and and that's why I said.

Speaker 7 (50:04):
Being the sport period, Yeah, because I'm not just talking
about the supplements, right about whatever centers around.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
This sport has has control. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (50:17):
Yeah, so whatever that is, I don't know what it is.
And so was the reason when she had retired? So like,
is there some kind of withdrawals evers? So they are
male and female body, yes, okay, so that's across gender, across.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Haley Haley Niff.

Speaker 7 (50:32):
Yeah, that that she's thirty seven years old and Craig
Liquor it was I think last week he was fifty seven.

Speaker 8 (50:39):
Yeah, so that's no controlled test group. That's uh, just
wide spectrum. We'll be back when the Sports Jock Show
right after.

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Now I'm just.

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Speaker 7 (52:38):
I'm this war shock Wing Candy Michael Porter Junior who
has been with the Denver team out in what's his
brother now? I was trying to think of his brother's name. Uh,
John Te Porter, one of the one that was a

(53:00):
ban Yeah, John Table Johnte. Michael has been with the
Nuggets his first what five years has been six seven seven? Okay,
he's with someone else right now. He was traded to Brooklyn, Brooklyn,
but he was talking about sports betting and his connection
is his brother. The story we reported on with the

(53:22):
guy that out of with Toronto, Yeah Raptors, was suspended
and basically banned from the NBA for life. But his brother,
Michael Porter, who's still and the more famous of the
Porter brothers, says that sports bedding impact is going to

(53:45):
get worse. It has detracted from the integrity and the
enjoyment of the game. Guys, big statement. We've talked about
the gambling, We've talked about the pressure as far as
fans and how they deal with players. They're looking for

(54:07):
the points. You can watch a game with someone and
not know why they're screaming. You're looking at the game
and they're upset because someone didn't do something that would
have gotten their points.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
One of my good friends they had their.

Speaker 7 (54:24):
Draft and they drove from Fort Lado Dale up to
Orlando to have their fantasy football draft.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
That's how big it is.

Speaker 7 (54:36):
Well, fantasy football is all bet on points and all
those performance and all that.

Speaker 8 (54:41):
And it used to just be for fun, but now
people have waging pools and all of Yes, in fantasy football,
a lot of people say they won't cross the line.
Line ain't presented to everybody. If you were in a
situation where you could guarantee, you could absolutely, unequivocally, without

(55:08):
any doubt, guarantee the outcome of that situation to your
benefit and quote nobody get hurt.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
How you gonna not take that chance? Well, that's and
that's what I think. This is the danger in that.

Speaker 7 (55:30):
Well, Michael Border Jr. Is talking to probably with the
insight on his brother's understanding, similar to what we talked
about with up in Ohio, because when we were talking
about his brother, a lot of those bets were more
prop bets. They had nothing to do with who won

(55:52):
the game. And if that's the truth, then he's probably
sitting there almost reflecting on his brother's demand. His brother's
demise is set around the fact that.

Speaker 8 (56:04):
Nobody don't get hurt and I can guarantee I just
get three rebounds. I can guarantee that I can guarantee
you I only play nine minutes.

Speaker 9 (56:14):
The score, it's not well, the thing that's with the
score is if the over like the spread, like you know,
somebody winning by seven or eight points. But the prop
bets is that's what's getting more attention now to where
like Ohio, Ohio now is putting restrictions on those kind
of prop bets, like it was one with the Cleveland

(56:34):
Indian Well Indians Guardians. Pitcher, he's a reliever, comes to
the game. The prop bet is the first pitch he
throws will be a ball. He throws it over the
over the catcher's head, and so people and but a
lot of but it was investigated that a lot of
people put money on the first pitch.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Being a ball. So those bets now come home. That's
what's getting people when they you know.

Speaker 8 (57:00):
Well, if I know if I go the first dude
ever to throw a ball on my first pitch, no,
you're around, you're around. If if if it was if
it just missed the strike zone or if it was low,
there probably wouldn't be suspicious throw his feet over the
catchers your honor. Have you ever seen a professional base
Have you ever seen a professional baseball pitcher throw an

(57:22):
errant pitchy?

Speaker 7 (57:23):
I rest my case what Big Kenny is alluding to.
It's how we have been talking about it through the
prop bet. Then that puts nine out of ten players
at risk based on what you're offering them. So if
you're gonna dry out drop a bag, I don't care
how much money I'm making. If you're gonna drop a
bag for one hundred thousand dollars, that the first pitch

(57:46):
when I go in the game is going to be
a ball to come on in that same series, I
strike him out seven, so I.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Can throw the ball.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
I can throw a ball on the first pitch and
throw three more pitches and strike him out nothing.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
What happened. What happened. I came out and I locked
in twin. That's what happened.

Speaker 8 (58:09):
I threw that arrant pitch and somebody went yeah, and
I was like they cheering for my demise twin and
then high heat, high heat, high heat, and I killed
seven in a row. And then after the game, somebody
dropped the bag for one hundred thousand dollars at my
feet and we all went home and celebrated and nobody

(58:30):
got hurt.

Speaker 7 (58:33):
Come on, twin, I'm gonna throw the I'm a throw
the Remember, at the end of the day, the team
didn't get hurt.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Nobody got hurt, nobody. I didn't hit the dude with
the ball. No.

Speaker 7 (58:44):
No, I can see if you're saying, uh, the first pitch,
you're gonna hit the guy with the ball. I know
that I'm gonna bet on that. Now, then I can
see when you have a anger, anger thing, outrage. But
come on, man, prop betting is and that's what we've
been talking about with the sporting thing, especially.

Speaker 8 (59:02):
When when when we find out that five thousand people
on that first piece. What does probability is that in
some sort of way part of the prop bet is
they betting on the statistical probability or something, And what

(59:22):
are the probabilities in sports?

Speaker 1 (59:24):
They're endless? Come on, team, Come on guys and look
at me. Man, what I what?

Speaker 4 (59:30):
I what?

Speaker 1 (59:31):
I intentionally pad in my pockets by throwing the ball?

Speaker 21 (59:34):
Guys, Nah, not me, not me, No, man, No, I
struck out the next I struck out the next seven dudes.

Speaker 7 (59:44):
I'm telling you I'm just I'm telling them that even
the fair athlete, once you prove to him that what
you're asking him to do has nothing to do with
changing the outcome of the success, he will walk that line.

(01:00:05):
Them starts becoming how much am I going to get
paid to do it? I don't make offers. I make
business propositions. That's what Jared Lloyd says, means proposition. So
to talk about truth in advertising, that's just coming from

(01:00:25):
an athlete. Most athletes, they're not going to throw a
game for you in this era. But if you need
me to drop a ball in the in the second quarter,
just one already looked at the same just one.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
But I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
We up seventeen, said, I guess the next ten, and
we up seventeen points. I'm dropping to just to be
sure I get you.

Speaker 8 (01:00:55):
Still messing with the integrity of the game. Yeah, most
people's integrity, it's set round my circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:01:06):
Most people's integrity is set around winning and losing. You
didn't ask me to lose the game, but it's I'm
just to have a bad play.

Speaker 8 (01:01:15):
It's still looked at the same way, whether like we're
gonna win by win or win by seventeen, or I'm
gonna drop this one pass in the second quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
It's the same thing.

Speaker 7 (01:01:25):
It's no different than if you about to break a
record and telling me you're gonna give me half of
your bonus.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
You rushing against me.

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
Yeah, mister, hey man, you know on one sack away
we're getting that half a million dollars. Yeah, talking about Yeah,
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Speaker 7 (01:04:04):
I hope you had a good weekend. Two weeks in
the books for the preseason. We are rolling up until
the last preseason game. All of you relax. This one,
I know is a lot of overreaction in sports now.
People are gassed about anything, any play. I don't know

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if it's just desperation. I want to believe in that
one play is going to signify that your team is
going to the super Bowl this year. But you know
it's just one play, one drive. I don't understand it.
It's not even the guys, it's just it's a game.

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But Tayler Williams driving the ball down. He was the
first pick of the draft. Him taking a ball driving
his team to a touchdown in a preseason game sounds
about right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I'm just trying to tell you that's the most competent
the Bears are. Just look way back. That's the down
in my entire life. Go Bears, Dumb Bears. Dumb Bears.

Speaker 8 (01:05:11):
I think I'm having a heart attack watching the Bear.

Speaker 7 (01:05:15):
It's just a drive, the same thing. I tell you,
it was a drive, and that's every Sanders. It was
just it was a game can start.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Every It's gonna be like that every game, really quick
to start.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
So when the other level starters on defense come out,
it's gonna be the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
We ain't talking about them. We saw that. We saw
really really quick sports. I have to get this out
of the way.

Speaker 8 (01:05:41):
In the close of our last hour, one of our
little listeners heard us talking about the prop back and
elder case Lamar Hugh we Sr. Wants to know if
someone want to give you one hundred thousand dollars for
getting hold and call in the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Third quarter, would you do it? What level of sport?

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
And my NFL NFL third quarter holding call gonna set
you back?

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
What is holding ten yards? No other nuances. I don't
ain't up. I don't know about you being up.

Speaker 7 (01:06:10):
I don't know about you being down, just as it
doesn't matter when I do it, uh, just in the
third quarter, any time in the third anytime It to
my discretion, up to your discretion.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
One hundred thousand.

Speaker 8 (01:06:25):
Yes, And Uncle Charlie said he will say no with
question mark and he'd have been disappointed had you said no.
You come to the Johnson family cookout. Now the fact
that you're to took that one hundred thousand dollars, we
are going to We'll prepare you some peg. No.

Speaker 7 (01:06:39):
That's when I'm on here. Y'all know I'm this is
who I am. These are my thoughts, and this is
how I function. That's why I'm trying to tell you.
Once you remove the label yes of me doing something
to lose the game at your all I have to
do is get one holding call because what that person
is asking me, I get to implement in a situation

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that is safer. So if the score is seventeen seventeen
and we are just starting the first drive in the
second quarter the second half, I can roll the dice
because we're still in the game. Now, if you're asking me,
I got to do it with two minutes to go

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in the game and y'all on some game winning drive.
See now you're affecting the game right right right, and
you've taken the control of me being able to evaluate
how this is going to hurt my team? Does that
make sense? And that's and that's what I'm saying. When
you're giving it to me, when you're giving it to
me where there's nothing actually there's nothing a pit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
That's why I said.

Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
You just asked me to throw the first pitch as
a ball, and then I can strake him out for
the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
So you ain't ask me to walk him, No, ask
I can throw he it's smoking.

Speaker 8 (01:08:05):
I understand the nuance. But the people who are who
have issues with these kinds of things, it's it's all wrong.
Like Pete Rose always better than his team to win,
but so he's making decisions to game.

Speaker 7 (01:08:19):
But I'm not telling you this is not wrong or right.
I'm telling you what you Pandora's box you opened up,
possibly telling you why Ohio is saying we might just
need to keep gambling to wins and losses. It's hard
to get some influence somebody to win or lose a game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
That's illegal.

Speaker 7 (01:08:44):
Throwing the game is something I won't ever be able
to push away from my memory. And it's also illegal
that I threw the game against a certain team. Right,
there's penalty for throwing. You asking me to have a
bad play, Come on, man, in a time that there's
nothing on the line for a hundred g's And that's

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what the Ohio people are, those that big gambling. They're
looking at the totality that if you let people bet
on anything, if you let this man, we found out
what the tempa guy. If you just gonna let people
bet on anything, what stops them from enacting.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
And implementing that theme.

Speaker 7 (01:09:32):
I'm quite sure that's what Michael Porter is saying with
his brother. His brother was in there explaining, Remember Mike,
the one with all the money. So now I'm throughout
the NBA. Hey Mike, hey man, Remember boy, I used
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Remember all them days, man, when I wouldn't let nobody
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cook it something to eat. Oh, he's playing all them
violence streams to his big brother, his little brother. Come on, man,
just let me. I'm just talking about the guest house, Mike.
I ain't need to talking about the main house.

Speaker 8 (01:10:06):
One, the one, the one in the city you used
to play for that. I just want to stay there.
And he had to explain, and Mike probably was like,
go ahead, on John Tay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
What happened? Hey man?

Speaker 7 (01:10:19):
They just told me as long as I didn't get
sixteen points. So when I got fifteen, I started acting
like my hamstring was hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Come on, man into the locker room. Went on the
locker room. His issue is he did it like four
games in a row.

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
Oh, but.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
It's a hamstring injury.

Speaker 8 (01:10:40):
Tween you know, they find me sometimes they wouldn't the
same injury, but.

Speaker 7 (01:10:46):
I would, actually, I would actually one hundred. I'm saying
as a person who feels like I would fight it.

Speaker 8 (01:10:54):
But the more simpler you bring it to me that
nothing is going to happen wrong or negative to the
outcome of the game. Even a person that I feel
like I'm based on, I don't like to have I
like to have integrity.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
You're still making it harrd for a person. And even
even with the most the most moral, upstanding person.

Speaker 8 (01:11:18):
You can say that you ever made a hundred g's
and one drop past, you ever made one hundred g's
and one missed block.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
All I gotta do is throw a pall, just one ball.
If it were like.

Speaker 8 (01:11:32):
A few, a handful of people, five or less people
that put money on that holding call in the third quarter, yeah,
maybe not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
A big deal.

Speaker 8 (01:11:43):
But when there are ten thousand people who bet on
that man the third quarter, that's for the FBI and
them to figure out that ain't got nothing to do
with I mean, that's why that's how you cat that
ain't got nothing to do with me got caught up.

Speaker 9 (01:11:57):
Hundred thousand people bet on him getting yeah, sixteen points suspicious.

Speaker 7 (01:12:02):
Yeah, but they I think part of that case we
have to look up also is that he had somebody
place a bet.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
That that that compounds on that and that's illegal. Illegal
the first part illegal. No no, no, no, no, no
no no no no no.

Speaker 8 (01:12:20):
Me missing the block ain't illegal. Me getting a holding
penalty in illegal. You as my friend, placed one hundred
thousand dollars bet on the fact that in the third
quarter I'm missing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
And ten thousand gotta do some research. That's gambling.

Speaker 7 (01:12:37):
Running on the field for the guy in the Super Bowl,
the running on the field park was illegal. They're going
to have to prove that he because he bet that
somebody would run on the field. That is that great area.

Speaker 8 (01:12:56):
So you mean to tell me when I when I
hit the lottery, all of of a sudden, we got
to do an investigation because I played the winning number.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Come on, bruh, that's the game. I don't and that's
why I was fifty billion people played I won.

Speaker 7 (01:13:09):
I didn't have a problem with how sports was dealing
with gambling. I thought it kept a lot of these
little things out. And when you opened it to the
prop bet, you open it to always having to question
because money can now be made without ever asking a person.

(01:13:30):
So why would me and Big Kenny, if we're doing this,
why would we ever approach a kid to throw a game?
It's drunk betting.

Speaker 8 (01:13:38):
It's like I give you, I bet you twenty five
dollars you can't throw these chicken wings into that cup,
and then you do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
It at nine to one fifty bucks and now I
can come.

Speaker 7 (01:13:49):
To you and go, bruh, you bet on the kick?
Did I bet he kick it out of bounds? And
he kicked it off? What are he causing the team?
Five yards? So still starting the thirty at the thirty five,
But he got to take home two hundred.

Speaker 8 (01:14:02):
G tonight tonight, not No. Two hundred jes per season,
two hundred gees. By the time, by the time I
pull up in my driveway.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
My money, you're already ware.

Speaker 7 (01:14:13):
You want to believe athletes who already stand on the
edge of the cliff of being compulsive gamblers. The sport
itself is full of people who fashion them is all
they raised with the mentality I bet you can't beat
me to the fence. Everything is I bet, and my

(01:14:38):
all are standing on and my capital is my performance.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
So this is natural to me. You just asking me
to dial it back a little bit, man, So I
think a lot of states need to follow. Ohio.

Speaker 7 (01:14:52):
The prop bet I was always when y'all first told
me about it was always something I was. I don't
think it's be in it. I think you should be
able to bet whether a team win or lose.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
And until y'all got greedy with the prop bet, I
thought that's the best at fantasy football ushered in all this.

Speaker 7 (01:15:12):
Yeah, well, I can get the quarterback from the Lions
and the defense from the Bears, and I bet you
running Running Brown have more yards than Cadillac Williams. And
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Welcome back to the Sworshock Show. I'm the spot Shock
Wayne Canny. Couple of birthdays here yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
Robert de Naro is eighty two years of age. Austin
Butler a great young actor thirty four, Sean Penn sixty five,
Donny Wallberg fifty six, Christen's leightoner one of the great

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college basketball players of our time. Fifty six right, Antoine
Randall l former teammate of mine with the Steelers, now
the receiver coach for the Lions. Last time I checked,
I want to say last year, might still be there.
I don't know if Aaron Glenn took him to the Jets,
but into one Randall al former college quarterback receiver in

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the NFL. Ed McCaffrey is fifty seven. Yeah, that's Christian
McCaffrey's a father. I wonder if Christian is going to get.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Randalla is with the Bears, the receivers coach of the
Bear so he went with Ben Johnson.

Speaker 7 (01:19:00):
Okay, yeah, I was wondering if he went with one
of the assistants for more money, more stability, and that
probably put him in line to be a coordinator. Sometimes
that's what they offer too, if you follow me. That's
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(01:19:20):
a lot of coaches based on the side of their ball,
those are their coaches. So you're the head coach and
then you go get a coordinator, but four or five
of those guys on the defense on his staff in
a sense that when he gets ahead job. They'll be
the coordinator. So you take a lot of people with
you unless you contractually as an owner. I think that's

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why Jerry Jones does it the way he does. He
hires the head coach almost like singularly, Alec Harty, I
got a staff. I just need you to come coaching now,
so he doesn't just lose all his people when one
person lead. He you Johnny Gill, Andy Samberg forty seven,

(01:20:05):
Christian lake Nard fifty six, Edward Norton fifty six, A
lot of actors here in the last couple of days. Birthday,
Robert Redford eighty nine. Now I did know Robert Redford
was still live, so on a few old people. I
did know he was still moving around.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Eighty nine.

Speaker 7 (01:20:22):
Boy, you're gonna put in some work, didn't he? Bit Kenny, Oh, Redford,
would you just sign off on eighty nine right now?

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
If I could.

Speaker 8 (01:20:30):
I mean, I'm saying I guarantee, Daddy, Yeah, I wouldn't
do that. You're seven years older than my mama, Yeah
I would. I mean, it ain't even got to be
a Robert Redford type life. They could just be a
regular I could do big Kenny till eighty nine years.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
I don't know what loved that.

Speaker 8 (01:20:47):
Yes, you would sign up for another forty right here today, Yes,
but you know you it's a little slight chance you
could have got to ninety one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
That's prop bet, prop bet.

Speaker 8 (01:20:57):
I mean if I do, cool, But if I don't
and I'm guaranteed this next.

Speaker 7 (01:21:03):
Forty, yeah, yeah, if you guarantee me another forty, yeah,
I'm sign that on up. Even know why you're questioning
put me a guarantee forty in this crazy world, Well,
you just get you get shot waiting on some extra
cheese on your.

Speaker 8 (01:21:20):
Birder, You get shot asking for extra cheese on your
bir They kind of get an extra slide.

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Holmes from ABC's I've been waiting on him in his fiance.

Speaker 8 (01:21:34):
Yeah, they're coming to their own show, right. I think
they started a podcast. They got their own podcast. Okay, okay,
got their own podcast. That's the world we live in,
their own show, they do. They let the Christy's out
of jail and they went to the same network. They
actually committed a crime.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
No no, no, no no, no.

Speaker 8 (01:21:53):
Committing a crime is something you get away with. They
of a crime. It's no different criminals a whole different status.

Speaker 14 (01:22:05):
You just did.

Speaker 8 (01:22:08):
People just got they shoulders up and they tight an
HR issue. I don't even know what that means, a
home run issue because I thought he knocked it out
the park.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Who else we have it?

Speaker 7 (01:22:25):
Dennis Leary is sixty eight Herb Street fifty six. As
I always tell you, we don't really do people who
have passed away. But similar to Hulk Hogan, Malcolm Jamal
Warner would have been fifty five today, So we just
passed away, you know, we usually don't do. But that
close to his birthday would have been fifty five. He

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drowned trying to save his daughter here about three weeks ago. Uh,
Liz Cabbage?

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Is that you say her name?

Speaker 7 (01:22:54):
The basketball? Is it cabbage? Cambage o casey, the it's
not cat. That's a prop bet. That's a bet.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
That's how they say in Australia.

Speaker 8 (01:23:04):
I bet somebody mispronounces her name. It's Cambay's Cambay. Now
hold on, that's say cabbage. That's fail like cabbage.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
It's got an M.

Speaker 7 (01:23:15):
Cabbage Cambridge. Boden Volinvick is thirty three years old, former Hawk.
God's say he's with the slippers slippers last year. He's
thirty three. Madeleine Stowe is sixty seven, and me should
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think so it was it we should take beat Holly Home.
It was the UFC fighter they were fighting. We should
take it's thirty nine years old?

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Or was it that?

Speaker 7 (01:23:49):
Because that was like that little window where it was
the three of them. Right, we should take run the
Ralcy Holly Home and when in Holly Holmes should beat
Holly Holme. Holly Holmes, Okay, thirty nine years old? The first,
Rob Gurkowski, Jeremy Shockey, Jery y'all forgot the show, the shock,

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y'all y'all letting y'all forget the shot?

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Yeah? I know, God, ain't nobody forget the shot.

Speaker 7 (01:24:16):
Jeremy Shockey is forty five, John Stamo sixty two, Fat
Joe fifty five, Carols Edwich is sixty, Paula Jai Parker
that' say that right, The actress is fifty six. Kirk
Cousins thirty seven, Anthony Munos maybe the best that ever

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did it at left tackle, sixty seven. Nate Berlerson. What
a career he's made in television after his football career
forty four, the Great the Hall of Famer. Man on
the wall over there, Morten Anderson is sixty five. And
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the president. William Clinton, Oh not half six sexual relationship.
I'll tell you something for my clock in. It's seventy
nine years old.

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that woman. But this woman les cam bitch clonk clone
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we ran out of time. I think she's out. She's too.
She's six'.

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Shower i'm the Sports Shock Wayne kandy the Great Denzel.
Washington we talked About denzel a couple of weeks ago
when we were talking about, actors and we were a
lot of us were basically saying if his time number
one or number? TWO i think he was on people's

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list as the great actor of our. Time but he
has had some candid words about the sports, media even
particulars basically Spotlighting STEPHEN. A smith and something what he calls.
Opinionaires we live in a world of opinion, there but

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Here's denzel and his own.

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
Words everybody's got an.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
Opinion we live in a world of. Opinionaire you, KNOW
i just want to call him.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
Opinionaires they're all the shows are a bunch of guys
and a couple of them that have, played but most
of them who, haven't who have an opinion about what
something should be when they haven't done. It those who
can't talk about those who. Can't those who have know
what they're talking. About those who haven't don't period too much,
talking too much, talking mighty got an. Opinion everybody's sitting

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around getting, fat you, know thinking they know how to
do it just because you can sit behind the desk
and chit. Chat that means you can do a damn.
Thing it was a Bars come get up here with,
me let's find. Out come get in the gym with.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Me let's find. OUT i, MEAN i don't know, you
you KNOW i. Can That's denzil right, There Big kenny commands,
You greg.

Speaker 7 (01:30:29):
GOING i think what IS i feel like is athletes
versus the media now with the opinion being spoken as
FAT i THINK i think that's the part because speculation

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having an opinion in, Sports it's always been, around but
now you do have shows and certain. Personality and for an,
athlete AS i try to keep it from my, VIEW
i understand what every athlete the issue they have with

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A STEPHEN.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
A smith from the point there's a there's a percentage
of where he goes that it would take you to be,
there have been in that situation to know the.

Speaker 7 (01:31:30):
SITUATION i can. Do Big kenny can. Do command, You
greg can. Do the three of us as a team
and as a group project considered for the next millions
and millions of years and read up debate talk about. Childbirth,

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hmm but who are we to have a conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Would with just one? Child, yeah we get two or, three, four, five,
six just one child about.

Speaker 7 (01:32:08):
Childbirth, yeah, well you know the The encyclopedia of such
and such says that you know doing, It.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
You're gonna do it if you. AIN'T i can't argue
with this woman when you go to telling me give
me something you don't.

Speaker 8 (01:32:25):
Need you don't need. Anything the child should Be And
i've had that. Conversation, no, no, darling you need to
turn on your side deep, space am out give me. Something,
OKAY i think we need to get, now get some creatine.

Speaker 12 (01:32:44):
And he.

Speaker 7 (01:32:48):
Uh but that AND i know that you know it
could be a little too, much but it's it's it's
like that for how certain opinions you, Get, well you
start calling people arms and what they should have done
with seventeen seconds on the. Clock you know what you
should have? Done come, in how you let your? FRANCHISE

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i should have dropped that. Pass i'm, saying what you
let your team get with your non you no idea
is right with twelve seconds to.

Speaker 8 (01:33:19):
Go, Yeah i'm, saying now if you you trying to pull.
Up and, then BECAUSE i remember the, time it was,
mean it was, magic it was big Game, james and
Then magic kicked it in the big game And Big
game looked at.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Me it was like take.

Speaker 8 (01:33:32):
It AND i was, like it's all, You, twin you,
know Because i'm a team. Player, Okay, yeah you feel me?
Right you feel so you've been there kind of Like i've.
Been there was twelve seconds left you magic And Big,
Game James. Worthy it was on the, line y'all playing The,
celtics The green And.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
White yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:33:55):
Them, Yeah i'm. Saying my head was in the. Game
SO i, don't you, KNOW i see his, opponent you feel.
Me ALL i see you didn't. Know ALL i see
is the other team AND i smell. Victory and so
he kicked it in The Big game And Big game
was LIKE Bk AND i was, like, nah, Nah twin
is you and man.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
And you know? Okay and you sure was magic And Big.
Game this was it was magic And Big, Game me
and the bad. Producer i'm, Saying i'm saying there was
one of. Them there's one of them on.

Speaker 7 (01:34:31):
The, outside someone like A denzel, who in our consciousness
is a guy that really uh is, professional shown himself,
professional his in his world and how he goes about his,
business and.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
You feel like a lot of times when people like
him do.

Speaker 7 (01:34:52):
Have something to, say like, this they're being, objective, yes,
right and that what you the feel is not so
much of it right or wrong as much as you
feel like it's an objective. View, yes a lot of
people make a lot of money calling themselves doctor this
and doctor that every day they're seeing people right now

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because in that profession of, psychiatrists a, psychologists you're supposed
to be. Objective, yes, yes SO i think that's where
you have to hold an ear. Open where he's, saying
opinion theres how far do you get to weigh in.

Speaker 8 (01:35:31):
On what you?

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Think what you?

Speaker 8 (01:35:33):
Think how valued should your opinion? Be because NOW i
remember the first time THAT i ever heard something From STEPHEN. A.
Smith my son introduced me to a. Phrase he, says
it hit my ears. Wrong first Time stephen ever said
something that hit my ears wrong is when he was
having a. DEBATE i think it might have been With

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Kevin durant or, somebody and he says to, them you
don't want to make an enemy out of, me trust. Me,
yeah of all the people that you could have issue
with and professional, sports you do not want trust. Me
AND i was, like he sounded like he was gonna

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roll up in the locker room AND i was, like
IF i WAS, Kd i'd be on high, alert Right
and THEN i, thought, Hey steven ate Like, dove is
he even able to go into the locker?

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Room you know What i'm. Saying this dude talk like
he can call the owner of the team and be
like fire him. Now AND i was, like that's that's
talk right.

Speaker 8 (01:36:35):
Now and he said it with such authority that people
who don't know the difference take it as an. Authority
and and and sometimes he takes liberties with what he.
Thinks there's no basis for the first person point of.

Speaker 7 (01:36:50):
View And i've said a lot of time commands you
just from the standpoint of how people with their, opinions
whether you're in the, barbershop and it's, like you, KNOW
i have to keep my mouth shut a lot of
times because they'll say something so. OUTRAGEOUS i THINK i
told you all THAT i was in the barbershop and
the guys for debating which one of them could Guard JEFF. T,

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Yeah AND i was sitting there, thinking none of, you
none of, you none of Guard JEFF.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
T why would you be in their cutting hair right?

Speaker 8 (01:37:22):
Now you would be you'd at least be on the
practice but, see this is the thing we have given opinions. Authority,
now who's wrong the athlete who can get a thousand
for just missing the? Layup one hundred thousand a night
missing the? Layup or are you telling me you could
pay me one hundred thousand this week for SAYING i

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think commands, You, greg it's horrible on the, boards.

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And, you in your real life make.

Speaker 8 (01:37:51):
Fries that's. It you don't even fry. Them you just
put them in the cutter and pulled the potato lever.
Down and now you're saying like this dude Is but people,
go oh, man that dude is so, entertaining and he's
so and they give you that license with their.

Speaker 7 (01:38:07):
Views and he kind of walks around with the arrogance
of as though he's PLAYED i THINK i guess that's
what really makes me laugh because he made this last
statement he was talking about, him and he. Doesn't he
never has to speak To Lebron james. Again they're still
not on good. Terms as if that was his idea

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like the.

Speaker 8 (01:38:29):
White, NOW i never knew he And lebron. Were remember
When lebron came up to, Him oh, yeah talking about his.

Speaker 7 (01:38:36):
Son and that's the thing like that was his whole he.
Had he's come up to the conclusion that him And
LEBRON i got seven. Rings lebron got to get up
to Where i'm. At But DENZEL i totally, Agree And
i've said it several. Times for some, reason especially with,
sports people have dumbed it down to that they can

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do it and they don't have to have the actual
infrastructure of playing or Being like when you look at Stephen,
a you you were not even A, Gm.

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SO i can take you going to get.

Speaker 7 (01:39:17):
A guy that was A, gm a gear, man couldn't
even making him at least he was A gm to
tell me what's going on as far as building a.

Speaker 8 (01:39:25):
Team he wasn't even equipment. Man he wasn't Even, yeah
he has no position THAT i know of that was.
Ever has he ever architect of a? Team has he
ever covered a team as a beat? Writer start?

Speaker 9 (01:39:37):
Everything he covered The, sixers like WHEN i When iverson got,
there that's when he. Started BUT i just said that they're.
Not they also won't put themselves in a position where
there would be could be proven wrong in any. Way
like a while, Ago Brian, scalabrini who played for The.

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Celtics he was on THAT O jv. TEAM a lot
of people are talking about like how he's a terrible
player AND i could beat. Him and he actually had
a tournament with guys who said they could beat. Him
played one on. One he played like five. GAMES i
think a total of four points were scored against him
against five. People so like you get prove like no

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one even knowing is even going to put themselves in
that kind of position where, Like, okay you say you
better than, me you can come show it and you
know you. Can't well everyone else you can see that's well.

Speaker 8 (01:40:34):
That is you know how they say diplomatically politically they
don't negotiate with. Terrorists what Would lebron look like Playing
STEVEN A. Smith i'm saying that would only validate A
STEVEN A. Smith it would help him more than it
would Help. Lebron SO i think a lot of those
guys are.

Speaker 7 (01:40:49):
Like, man, gone you just, Talking, well, yeah he could
Only lebron could only hurt. Himself, yeah because at some
point people will feel like he shouldn't have done that to?
Him why does he keep dropping his shoulder on? Him
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Welcome back to The Sports Shock. Show i'm The Sportshock Quinn.
Candy we were talking about the Great Denzel washington having some,
opinions as he, said with the advent of social, media
everybody is an opinion. There even people love to give
opinions about things they have never even. Done and we were,
saying in the world of, sports when opinions become what

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people speak in a way of fact is the part
of THE i think WHERE i call it athletes versus the.
Media when you start saying things and predicting things of
where you've never been trying to put a face on,
it AND i know you're making money and it's more
on the entertainment, side but you it's Like Kevin. Durant

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most guys feel just Like Kevin durant with someone Like
steven A spill or A Skip bayless where you're saying
things and giving observations about HOW i shouldn't have gave
the ball, Up why would you know WHEN i should
have gave.

Speaker 8 (01:45:06):
IF i were his, teammates my level of, disappointment and
how he let us down last night with his lackluster
play and his lack of, focus.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
What us like us like you've ever ever been called
upon to do any of that.

Speaker 8 (01:45:29):
Stuff and NOW i think that's part of the opinion,
process is that people start to come up with tears
of their. Opinion oh, man you're too much of a
professional to have dropped that. Pass oh but you don't

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know at any level what they're dealing.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
With so to be the sixth, man to be the twelfth.

Speaker 7 (01:45:55):
Man read The monday morning, quarterback as they say Every monday,
morning don't mean what we always we always see the
open man from the recliner in front of the seventy
two Inch.

Speaker 8 (01:46:07):
You know WHAT i.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
Mean it's easy that dude.

Speaker 8 (01:46:12):
To side for. You i'm, Watching i'm watching from the that.
Man let that dude down there waving is on.

Speaker 7 (01:46:19):
Because that was, YEAH i knew that you didn't AND
i didn't throw it to him BECAUSE i knew he was.

Speaker 8 (01:46:23):
Open he was he was, open and it didn't matter
that this other six' nine guy was swiping, at, Me,
saying yo mama gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Feel THIS all i could think, about was that's unfair to.
My mom you KNOW what?

Speaker 13 (01:46:35):
I mean.

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SO Uh espn films has or Had Commissioned spike lee
to create an eight part documentary REGARDING former Nfl Quarterback.
Colin kaepernick, the, series however will not. BE Released Espn
Colin Kaepernick spike lee have collectively decided to no longer

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proceed with this project as a result of certain. Creative
DIFFERENCES when i first from the from that, FIRST part
i thought the differences Were Between spike COLIN. Versus ESPN
as i, kept reading it's Between Between.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Spike Lee And. Colin kaepernick now now is it? Too black?
Too strong is one of them was trying to go?
Too black hold on now and? Too? Strong maybe wait now?
Right Now. SPORTS jack i we rarely touch stuff that's.

Speaker 8 (01:47:37):
JUST oversaturated i was thinking this would be one of
those let, It breathe BUT when i heard that it
Was between Colin, And, spike no we can't let. That
breathe we're gonna Have to we're gonna have to let
some of these words. Get choked out because This Is
spike lee do the, Right Thing spike lee and cool

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the Can't They?

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Collie kaepernick now remember when he on his shirt on
the shirt on? The, shirt yeah coo tak take on
his shirt or was It? Just kuto? It was you
want to put it. Either, way so so you mean

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that We GOT.

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Malcolm X And nat turner in the car together and
esp and the, one, like man let's, do this and
there on some nab bro like who was the, too black?
Too strong who wasn't? Black enough who who thought that's
a little too heavy For?

Speaker 7 (01:48:44):
Him spike and That's that and that's the same Question
Manswer BIG kenny, i had like if it's Them two
and THAT'S why i made. That statement is it that
you're trying to take it and make?

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
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What some?

Speaker 7 (01:48:57):
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what usually episode is what forty FIVE, Minutes espn so
it probably was they're going to send it to you
in that kind of format forty five to fifty minutes.
Per EPISODE and i was trying to. FIGURE out i
wonder who was trying to take it? Too far they
wanted to do a whole episode on just the. Death

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threats he was getting.

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Death Threats, malcolm no The Minister fara khan came to
him and wanted to recruit him until the nation.

Speaker 7 (01:49:27):
Is deleted, you know is there anything you can think
of you where they wanted to go that they? PROBABLY disagreed.
I was i tried to think about what element did
they get TO where i don't want to go there?

Speaker 8 (01:49:44):
Now, now also would, you, imagine uh maybe that's why
instead of some of the other nuances they Said That
colin kaepernick didn't get back INTO the nfl because if
you can't get along With A spike lee on some display,
Your story we're not talking about a. Fictional account we're

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Talking about i'm dealing with the man that, lived it
and we can't agree on. What happened we can't agree
on how this it's it's real.

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spike got on board viewing it one way and as
he was doing his research he might have found out
something because they always always tell, people that, you know
they sold the story as though there were no. More
opportunities but there were a couple of teams that was

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asking him to come. Try out they wanted to make
it back up quarterback just cut the hair And the
seahawks they couldn't, get him and they went And.

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show the whole thing where your parents that raise you
were white, and black his, adopted, parents like and you
didn't want it because you want to come off fully.

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One way, you know some people don't like that to
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know struggle that kind. Of STOFF so i wonder what.
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years OLD and i WAS when i read, THE story
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Speaker 8 (01:55:43):
Children, twelve oh you ain't no way to explain except
you know your son ain't got no. Hands anytime anytime
your boy Go to scofflan you, started shooting he was
getting beat up and.

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
You panic. That's, All, Well danny first, of all did
you bring a gun to the the kids back?

Speaker 6 (01:56:01):
To?

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
School, NOW no i didn't bring. THE gun i just
had the gun. With, me okay that was two, different
things two. Different.

Speaker 8 (01:56:09):
Things sir bringing the gun made it sound like it, Was,
Like hey i'm finna go get my gun to go around.
These KIDS but i just always.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Got let's make. It simple did you know that discharging
a gun in public is. A crime we wasn't, in
public though we was at. The school i'm, SAYING now
i wasn't like we was at the walmart. Or nothing
we was at.

Speaker 12 (01:56:34):
The.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
SCHOOL sir i don't know how she's gonna fight. This
case but they was. Beating up.

Speaker 8 (01:56:45):
They beating up the little, man NOW and i just
Wanted to that's how they always do it in. The
movies they want to spread. Them out THAT'S what i.
Was thinking he watched TOO. Much tv you can't just
pull your gun out at your leisure and shoot it
in the ass to. Restore order this is Not The.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
Wild west she's Been watching tombstone too, many times telling
you she. Watched reruns she's been watching what?

Speaker 6 (01:57:09):
Of?

Speaker 8 (01:57:09):
That uh.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
What's the? Last? One that it was harder?

Speaker 8 (01:57:14):
They, fall yeah thea? Of it what was the little Series?
With yellowstone yellowstone eighteen? Twenty three all? OF that, i
mean and where were the? Security people where were the
security people? AT this i felt the need, TO well
i guess they. WAS gathering, i, MEAN yeah, i mean
didn't give them time to do.

Speaker 7 (01:57:35):
Their job get. There too she thought she decided she
would don't worry. ABOUT it i got, this, Power Yeah,
brian floores we'll talk about. THIS later i wanted to
see a. Little more how. THIS case i Know That,
brian floores who used to be the head coach Of,
the dolphins been With the steelers since And. The vikings

(01:57:56):
he is the defense coordinator now With. The vikings he
has a civil suit AGAINST. The nfl the judge rule
that it. Can proceed AND when i, SAW that i
was trying to, figure, out now how do you prove
a case of what you're saying is racial discrimination against

(01:58:17):
the people that you're actually working for when you're at.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
The job how do you? Prove that how does the
person prove that?

Speaker 7 (01:58:25):
As documents, You know, i'm saying how do you prove
that the company doesn't hire.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
Who you are at the?

Speaker 8 (01:58:35):
Company, job oh it ain't that you don't, Hire us
it's that when you, hire me you racist. Against, me,
OKAY okay i SAID what, i HAD what, i say
and there.

Speaker 7 (01:58:56):
Was PEOPLE and i will Tell you i've been saying
from the Time My inner league in nineteen ninety four,
UNTIL now i see a completely different landscape on. THE
sideline i look at coaching and coaching hiry and, a
TOTALITY meaning i don't just weigh the amount of black.
HEAD coaches i weigh the significant amount of blacks on

(01:59:21):
the sideline and the, front office all those things. Have changed,
you know it's no longer twenty. Years ago it's a
diverse just like we're talking about what. The cheerleaders. It's
diverse it's a thing of people putting people in place to.
Make money you got women about one day away from

(01:59:44):
actually being full time, real assistant not just the assistant to.
The assistant you got, women owners you got women. Front
office we've started talking about, women gms all. The improvement
so the same thing with. Black coaches you can get
lost in and have this idea that there's not enough

(02:00:07):
annually black, head coaches but then your turn on, the
game Like. THE bucks i don't Know That todd bowles
has anything.

Speaker 8 (02:00:15):
But, black coaches like the, Whole staff like we got staffs,
of yeah and there's thirty two, teams, right yeah and
a lot. Of them i've NEVER coached, nfl team but
the being kind of jobs people kind of want to
hold on to if it's going. Good people it ain't
a lot of turnover with me just, quitting, LIKE man

(02:00:37):
i don't want to do.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
This anymore.

Speaker 8 (02:00:39):
That's rare SO if i got the job and nobody,
Fires me i'm trying to hold on to. My job
how Long Has mike tomlin Been. In pittsburgh this will
be his, Nineteenth year so right now it's only really
thirty one.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
Jobs out you See what.

Speaker 8 (02:00:54):
I'm, saying yeah we got we've got some teams where
these dudes been there all of, that time and so
only twenty eight of these.

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
Jobs Available and i'm. Not LEAVING so.

Speaker 7 (02:01:07):
I, don't know and he would no more like kind
of like DIDN'T say i haven't been in the meetings or.
BEEN around i don't know if it was just he
didn't like the Way the dolphins let him go or
how it worked out. WITH him i just was sitting
THERE when i, saw IT and i, was, thinking well
it's going to be hard to prove when you just
have the, head coach but they, hire you or Are

(02:01:30):
you how do you just for one particular because it
is not, the military it's not one of, those things.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
NOT corporate i was a. Staff sergeant now you're supposed
to move me up to that kind.

Speaker 8 (02:01:43):
Of, thing YEAH if i without any write ups and all,
of that in, THIS time i should be here and
you got to prove Cause why. I'm not this is
just based ON whether i like you and do you
have a resume TO say i should hire you half,
the time especially with switching, WITH coaches a lot, Of,
coaches oh other coaches favors by THAT time i gave you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
That, job okay now you're the. Head coach remember THAT
time i gave you? That job you. Hired me that's
how it. Really works so we are in. The ocean
the truth is he will throw your in.

Speaker 20 (02:02:21):
The ocean it's time to wrap things up On the
Sports jug Show with wayney.

Speaker 7 (02:02:54):
When you're sounds Of the ocean against the, sports jock
just a Minute to ben would like to thank you
for tuning in. Today's Show, Kenny, commancha greg thank you
for your. Contributions today if you missed any of, the
show you can Go To, Apple podcasts, Amazon, Podcast, Audible,
deezer iHeartRadio or spotify and catch the replay going in the.

(02:03:15):
Ocean today and is not really, his fault He's, gen
z but this is how Far gen z. Has fallen
University Of. Michigan Gymnastics, frederick richard the twenty one year
old who sees himselves.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
As some kind of icon social, media darling was willing
to LOSE.

Speaker 7 (02:03:43):
The Us gymnastics championship last week for a fashion moment
when he got To The, palmer horse, he decided because
he wants to make gymnastics, cool again that he would switch.

Speaker 1 (02:03:58):
His, uniform.

Speaker 7 (02:04:01):
Well if you switch, your uniform it's a, deduction automatic
nothing that the judges.

Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
Can do and that's how much he.

Speaker 7 (02:04:10):
Lost by so instead of being number one and winning the,
gymnastics competition he thought that his Likes, From comanche Greg
And big kenny were. More important he even said it
was a thousand percent worth it when you look around.
The arena so he would rather look good than.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
To win.

Speaker 8 (02:04:34):
Something is really wrong. With side he Got The dion
sanders quote all messed.

Speaker 7 (02:04:40):
Up and That's who i'm throwing In osle man that
was really is willing to come in second just to be.
More Visible frederick richard.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
Fucked up light.

Speaker 8 (02:05:03):
And it, seems uh thirty thousand people won one hundred
million dollars on the prop bet that fred would come
in second At The United States. Gymnastics championship sports jot
From the Sports.

Speaker 1 (02:05:16):
Show WE hoped i have a. Good, afternoon peace
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