The Ring Is the (Only) Thing?

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Enough to enough.

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Speaker 4 (00:19):
This is the Sports Shock Show with Wayne Candy.

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Frank me down?

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Is it just.

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I'm gonna go on the way you vegan.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, you're listening to the Sports Shock Show.
I'm the Sports Shock Wayne Candy, Good morning to you,
and let's start with a big congratulations around of applause
here for the Florida Panthers. Yeah, I got you, Florida Panthers.

(01:08):
I stopped my cloup like.

Speaker 7 (01:10):
That was.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
The Florida Panthers did win the NHL Stanley Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
They did?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Okay, imagine he was like he wanted to take the
clap back I did. Did we ever give the Panthers
their love? We did not. We did not, and they
deserve it. Lea the last couple of years, correct lead champions. Yeah,
this their second they're big. I'm back to back and exactly,

(01:37):
and we've never said a thing. Y'all gonna let me go?
Did you see me freeze my clap?

Speaker 7 (01:41):
I was clapping, and they like, skirt get the air
brakes on the clap when you say Florida pans And
I was wrong for that.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Now, I don't know a player that plays for the
Florida Panthers. Don't. I didn't watch the Stanley Cup finals either,
but I do know, being from the home state of Florida,
that I that they had won. And neither of you
two brought that to me and your stories.

Speaker 7 (02:04):
Which is neglectful because first of all, the fact that
Florida even has hockey team, it's new.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
And they both ware championships, Like, come on, man, well
what happened is over kind of like Atlanta. When Atlanta
had hockey, the Thrashers were here, that whole movement into
the South with NHL. Nashville got a team Charlotte. I
think they're based out of Charlotte r and y rally.

(02:35):
So it was the whole thing that so many people
from that northern region, yes, had moved to these areas
that it could now sustain. Now, the population of Atlanta grew,
but it didn't grow from the hockey fan, right, but

(02:57):
you noticed that. Or it's like tennis and soccer are
huge when it's it's one of them things where Atlanta
is like number one or two and like competitive tennis,
but they have all of these different tennis leagues, not
not just something about on a pro circuit, come out

(03:17):
where that's you go out to these tennis courses. Yeah,
I mean, I mean, uh, these tennis places and they're
filled with yeah people in the same thing with soccer.
And I think that's what with Florida. Same thing. You
have a lot of migration, and then that migration, I
was able to support a hockey team and that I

(03:39):
was yeah yeah in Tampa, the Lightning one about three
years ago in the last I mean, both teams last
in the last six or seven years.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
And we have said nothing and you and yeah, no, no,
don't don't, don't you don't just you you have said,
mister Florida resident, you still got a place or two
in Florida.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Right now that you have a place in Tampa and.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
A place in Tampa where else at Miami Miami, you
got like a home in both those places. And you
never came in with like, hey, he goes some T
shirts from the national You just admitted I ain't never
seen a game, So yeah, I think that's all collectively
bear the weight.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Of this response, at least at least I'm admitting it. Yeah,
me too, Me too. You wanted to take your clap back,
and I just wanted to say that because I didn't think,
you know, I don't think excuse me that we have
addressed at the Florida Panthers. The Stanley Cup and the
Stanley Cup by name, could be the most known trophy

(04:45):
in sports. In sports, yes, it is, as far as
the name of the actual and it being identified with what.

Speaker 7 (04:52):
Sports that you're playing. I think it's interesting too that
Florida and Tampa Baby have both won championships hockey teams
from hot states. But hockey is an international game. It's
not just played in the United States, and the powerhouses
have usually been from other countries, and for them to
do it back to back is quite impressive.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
So congratulations to the Panthers. Before we even get give.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
You that air break clap. Then I tried this, give
me some enthusiasm. No more jake break clap. I'm gonna
give you a full clap, no more, Jake break clap.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
And then we can get around to the Oklahoma City
Thunder last night winning game seven one o three to
ninety one in this game, and it just it wasn't
the matchup. It was just you know how when something

(05:55):
go like you think it a goo, it has a
little less to it. Okay, see was the best record.
Nobody slapped, Nobody mama the whole year. All the players
showed up, Nobody get tellybody, don't get thrown out of game,

(06:16):
hain't nobody failed to drug. You just kind of know.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
Yeah, So the modern day San Antonio Spurs, that's yet
to be seen. I haven't seen as far as their
bill like there, Yeah, I didn't see the post game conference,
so I don't know how many words they used.

Speaker 9 (06:37):
Because they they their team that built through the draft,
made a couple of trades here and there, and that's
what the Spurs.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
And only difference I think s t A might say
sentences like he might go, yes, I agree, So that's that's.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Different than Tim dun dunk. Well, how would how did
Tim do it?

Speaker 7 (06:55):
Mm hmm, excuse me, Tim, Yes, that's how he clarified. Yes,
Oh okay, SGA and his band of married men bringing
home the championship. What a fighting team the Pacers turned
out to be two teams really, even as the finals gone, I.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Don't know that Shay gained any real measurement of face
of the NBA. It's something about his that doesn't let
him fall in. Is it that he's from Canada and

(07:39):
he's from Canada. Yeah, he's from Canada. But this is
something that I've noticed. You know, we don't really like
we only give you if your foreign born, just a little.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
Bit, we'll make you president or governor something like, now, governor,
you're a governor.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
But we ain't gonna let you just take over NBA.
But ridiculous. But his teammates last night doing a great job,
and as Greg said, really shows and really keeps in
mind that sometimes if you draft correctly, and that's something
and that's most of the time really really, you draft

(08:14):
and then you hire a Henchman's kind of how it
goes like. But but the top three, three of my
top five playlayers, I drafted right, and then I go
get me a henchman to come in and kind of
either lead them or be the X factor. But this
team here based on their pieces. Definitely have a chance

(08:36):
to repeat and get better in this game right off
the bat Tyler Halliburton Tour or what looks to be
appears to be torn Achilles.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
Yeah, that that was unfortunate. I wanted to ask you
really quick about the face of the NBA. You said,
didn't seem like SGA moved any closer to that. Are
we just super just to give somebody that title because
they kept trying to make ant man and even in
this series when they thought that they would sweep Indie
and they lost that game, everybody started going, well, SGA

(09:13):
might not be the face of the NBA if he
loses this series. And like he never said he was
the face. You kept saying I want him to be
the face, and now you don't want him?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Is that an overused term? Now? I would say not
for the NBA, because they're they're the league that since
the Jordan and Bird era. That's how they really came
to be a powerful force. They sell tickets based on
the face, correct, Yeah. I've always said that they're more individual,

(09:47):
Come see a player, Baseball and football are more come
see a team. Yeah, if you ever notice, we're never
really discussing who is the face of the ni FL.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
No, you know now now they may try and highlight
a player in that Lamar Jackson going up against the
best defense and you know this player kind of thing.
So we've seen that, but that's just sort of as
a teaser to the actual game that's coming up. We've

(10:21):
never seen it in football like they do it in
the NBA, Like this guy plays for a team. You
don't really even hear about his team. You just hear
about him being a member of the NBA.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
And baseball used to be like the NBA, where they
marketed players until some of those players until yeah, I
mean those market players. Ryan, come support your team. Don't
worry if Barry Bond, we'll see are you know right
now when you think of the Major League Baseball, there's

(10:52):
Aaron Judd, that kind of a show any acuna.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
You start hearing those names more local yet, But back
in the day when we used to say all those names,
the Maguire, the Bonds, the Pete Rose so so they
all came under screw, right, So we stopped.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, so we stopped promoting the individual. Mike Piazza.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
Yeah, it was always someone somebody and then those people
are kind of teens to make sure you watch the game,
and then they ended up being human and we had
stopped doing that, like, no, we can't watch Charlie Hilsel, No,
don't promote him.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
So congratulations to the Thunder. I don't know any Thunder fans,
So it's not like I just sent a personal shout
out before we go to break. You know any Thunder
not personally. No, you know any Thunder personally that you
have had a conversation with. Never how long they've been
in the league. Well, they've been the thunder about since fifteen.

Speaker 7 (11:53):
And I still have yet to meet a a organic
Thunder fan.

Speaker 9 (11:58):
And the Seattle fans did not go. They didn't transfer, Yeah,
they did not. They're pounding the table to bring back. Yeah,
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Their second best player this season, Tyler Halliburton, a point

(17:08):
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been following this show, I always alert people to know
are the most dangerous. You actually want to sustain an
injury through contact. When you find somebody falling without being contacted,

(17:28):
even if it's not the achille, is something wrong, something
has pulled, something is knotted up. That's why you fail
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(17:49):
go out and play this whole low management, this idea
that you can predict when injury happens kind of mindset
the play through it.

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I heard them even saying when he was reported earlier
in the series to have a lower right leg injury,
no one is at a calf strain. Uh and he
I think came out of the second half or something
of it was a Game three or or one of
those games, and everybody was like, well, I think it's

(18:24):
really disappointing that when your team is counting on you
that you would and I think that if it was
just and and you know it's that sounds heroic when
you're sitting and watching a game. And then everybody goes, Okay,
we're so glad he stepped up. And now he has
that injury, and everybody's kind of like, well, I said
he should rest, but it's one of.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Those is that injury on the same leg. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 9 (18:50):
He had the calf strain earlier, and uh, it's kind
of a strain where you're supposed to he would normally
be out for like two three weeks while it eels
and and everything, but if you keep playing on it,
it can lead to an achilles tear. So he kept
playing just because like, well I can, I can get

(19:13):
out there and they need me and it's the finals,
so it was just something that this could happen if
he kept playing. And this was game seven, so you
to go out there. He's going to go for it.
So it's I just saw it like it's it's unfortunate,
but it's something that he was it's the finals, and

(19:35):
I can I can do something.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
And I'm sure that somewhere there's this NBA scientist trying
to do the math or sports scientists period on. Something
I've spoke about a lot is the torn achilles. It's
more prevalent now it's the third one. This just post

(20:00):
season between Damian Lillard, Jason Jason Tatum from Boston and
now with Tyler Halliburton, and a lot of times, I'm
telling you my whole career, I remember maybe two three
guys in the whole time.

Speaker 13 (20:18):
The first one I ever heard was Dominique when it
was like it was a big deal. Remember when Dominique.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Toy Is in the early nineties.

Speaker 13 (20:25):
Yeah, and it was like you found out then that
is a bad injury for basketball, especially any sport. But
like you said, it's now Achilles is a common as
a c L M C L.

Speaker 7 (20:39):
Have you heard the other chatter out there that Dame Lillard,
Tyree's Halliburton, and Jason Tatum all where number so that
that might be part of why they're having Achilles tears
because and I don't know how people come up with
this stuff and start to make it thing that people

(21:00):
actually start to debate. But when I heard that, I
was like, that's how deep you'll be going into it.
I mean, like you, I'm thinking an achilles here, that's
how many of this season? Because you just rarely see that.
And I thought you was about to tell me something
about they had the same trainer. No, no, they wear
numbers partners.

Speaker 13 (21:20):
Yeah, So I was.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Over to.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
That, and when I heard that, I just froze, like
who researches that? Like which one of the people on
your staff, like researches the injury and the number of it.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I mean, it just too hard that all happened in the
last two months. That's true that it was hard. It
wasn't hard to compile the data. So don't wear the
numbers either. I guess it's what they're saying, but really
it's just that I don't know. I need to get
out to a modern training session. I do know years ago,

(22:00):
when I was a little more around guys that worked out,
I didn't notice a big uptick in things where people
leaving their feet. And the science always said, you kind
of you need those explosive exercises. You do a little
bit of it, and I think we used to report

(22:21):
when you would see those guys try to jump up
on a table. Yeah, I wait on there on the bar.
And I used to like that is horrible or the Achilles.
That's horrible for your knees. And but it makes good
YouTube or TikTok, But the wear and tear, but the

(22:42):
reality of that is hard. So I wonder what these
and even to the shoes, as we always talk about
the game now with the the high top no longer exists,
that's another problem that it looks more cross trainer now, yes,
or almost low top shield. I wonder if anybody's doing

(23:04):
that whole now. Looking over the first fifty years of
the NBA, it was high top ankle sport, and now
I want to jump higher, so i'd wear less material.
But everybody's ankles hurt. Dad, I wonder if that has
anything to do with it. We'll be back more to
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I'm the Sports Shop WINKND. We are reaching the end
of June. The NBA Draft is this Wednesday. Where will
the young man from Duke who a lot of people
are predicting to be the number one pick. Where will
he land? We will find this out on Wednesday. A

(26:41):
lot of people think that the Mavericks are going to
take him.

Speaker 9 (26:44):
Correct, Yes, apparently on their website for their season tickets
advertising season tickets, they had a picture of him in
a Mavericks jersey. So Cooper fly, now, now that's not
Ray the flag right now, right now, right now, okay,
right now, I like that.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I like that. Great marketing. No no, no, no, no,
no no no. Stay.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
The draft is a draft. That's that's nice. The draft
is coming Wednesday. Okay, so it hadn't so he hadn't
been drafted yet. This yeah, listen what I'm saying now.
Magic Johnson said that would be interesting and he can
fined for tampering when they talked about some players, Cooper

(27:33):
Flag is in the league yet, exactly what you already got.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
We just got so many loopid but he's not. He's
not on a team. But he's not in college yet either,
So it's okay.

Speaker 13 (27:45):
Yeah, it's it's just working the system, man, you know
you used to.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
It, you do. I'm not I'm not affiliated with anybody, okay,
saying for the flag, not just the Cooper flag, the
American flag, for the whole flag, because to me that
just sounds like, you know, I'm I'm priming the pump.

Speaker 13 (28:06):
But you know, they look good if they do have
him and Anthony Davis coming back healthy, with a healthy
I'm not Kyrie, and I'm not saying that they wouldn't
be a formidable team. I'm saying that you've already put
a player who's not in the league in a shirt
of a franchise that plays in the league. They all
do it when they recruit you, they'll put take your

(28:28):
picture in the shirts.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Out. I need to go ahead and talk to you
and work out the contract because we already know what's happening.
We've already decided that we could no need for us
to not address this. We need to start getting where
you're gonna be. The promotion, the jersey, all those conversations
out of the right of the.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
Way, because we're gonna draft you and you're gonna come here. Correct, Okay, Okay,
And it's no longer tampering. It's no longer hamper was
when you already, yeah, already was on a team on
a team. Okay, yes, I love it. Loopholes loophole Did
you actually find it in his pocket?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Certain? No, I didn't objection around constitutional if Cooper flag
is the first pick, which a lot of people believe
he will be. Uh he now enters what the last
week or so, Lebron James has been speaking on the
ring culture. Even Michael Jordan gave some credence to what

(29:33):
Lebron was saying that rings are not important when you
talk about the goat. Rings are not important when you
talk about the goat. First of all, we go down

(29:57):
this rabbit hole. Guys, do ring things matter when you're
talking about comparison?

Speaker 7 (30:06):
Now, now, when we say go we're not talking about
farm animals. Greatest of all time? It's a it's an acronym,
is what they call it. Greatest of all time? Yeah, okay,
command you. Yes, rings matter to.

Speaker 9 (30:23):
A certain that's the bar Well, we've had this conversations.

Speaker 13 (30:30):
It's one of the checkbox, as far as.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
One of one of the checkboxes, one of the checks.
So all running backs with rings are better than Barry Sanders. No, no, alone,
you just told me, I said, to a certain degree. No,
So every back and this is what Lebron was saying,

(30:53):
how do you diminish a person ability based on something
he couldn't capture by himself. Now, Barry Sanders, if the
sport was just individual running back would have won. He
would be just some ong bowls of running backs. Yes,

(31:14):
that's true. But since it takes a whole fifty three
man squad, how I'm on the hook for my talent
being diminished because I don't have a ring in a
team sport. This isn't golf. Golf you can measure through

(31:37):
championships because golf is an individual sport. So if I
don't have any, if you what is I wade your
nass car thing? The other day with Dale Earnhardt on
Prime Video, Well he won the cup, but he hadn't
won a day two one of five long time. But
he won. He's like tied with the top Richard Petty.

(32:00):
Where I mean Winston Cups?

Speaker 13 (32:01):
Yeah, Winston back when it was Will.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
But if I don't I don't win Winston Cups, how
do I get into conversation? So that's why I actually
I'm not saying you wrong, I'm asking you how do
you take somebody tell that certain degree?

Speaker 13 (32:17):
So it's not.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Tipper Jones is better than Barry Bump. So when do
you draw the line? When do you when do you
when do you get to implement in.

Speaker 9 (32:28):
A team sport the ring part not at the I wouldn't.
I would say not at the beginning. If if all
the things that that are being compared are close enough
in comparison, then the rings that it can be like
a tiebreaker of sorts. But like you said, with with

(32:50):
certain players, that art doesn't matter. It's it's not the
end all be all. But but a lot of people, with
the debates that they have, they start art with championships
and that are.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
These the people that play? Or is this the public yet?
And I don't because I don't know anybody that go.
I've never That's why my stance has always been in
a team sport, you had the better team. You're not
a better player than me, you just have a better team.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
People are are slow to consider what kind of team
did that particular player have around them, were they championship
contenders or how did they overcome that? But all that context,
a lot of that gets ignored. They said, people start
with the number of championships and you really don't have
any If Michael Jordan didn't win six rings, but he

(33:48):
did the same exact thing on the court, but when
it came to rings, he didn't have them. You're telling
me he still isn't the greatest be doing. Wait now
and see, this is what I believe has happened. Is
it used to be they were the Green Bay Packers,

(34:08):
they were the Dallas Cowboys, they were the storied Boston Celtics,
and then somebody picked a player out of that team.
It used to just be based on how good your
franchise was, and if you were part of that franchise,
then you might be in that conversation. But then Jordan
came along and it wasn't just the championship Bulls anymore.

(34:30):
It was Mike and the Bulls. And the reason they
made him Mike and.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
The Bulls was because he became the highlighted player and
all of the rings they got they attached to his
name and being great. So now everybody following that has
to at least have some of those on their hand,
because that's what comes with that fleet comes with the dog. Now,
the public demanded that the league sold us that that's

(34:56):
what makes you great. Well, I don't care what the
league sells me.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm talking. I'm talking at this table as individuals. How
do you command a person to win on a team
when it takes a team to win? Well, I.

Speaker 13 (35:18):
Well, prime example, okay, see say gil Grists, we say superstar,
but it was a team. There's no there was no
Big Three, there's no list, and that they just went
out there and played balls.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
And then there have been some team winner.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
There have been some teams that didn't have every position
field with talent, and they say this player put the
team on their back and won, carried that team so
and then they carried that team to a champion chip.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
So we've seen it happen. It may not have happened
in bears. And we've also seen a man with all
the players that he needs to win, not win, not win, right,
so that make him or he didn't have He carried
the team to the fight but didn't have a good finals.

Speaker 13 (36:03):
That to me, if you that guy, is that you
put the team on the back, you're the leader.

Speaker 7 (36:07):
So uh well, well, some of that almost starts to
sound like that in my opinion. Participation trophy philosophy is
because we're we're talking about you were talented and you
really wanted it and you had this, but because the
team didn't get it, you didn't get what you were
supposed to get.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
So we ought to be talking about you. But unless
it's unfair, in all my years, I didn't win a ring.
You're telling me there's guys that's better than me because
they were on a team that got a ring. I
thought we were talking about goats. Now I thought we were
talking about that. We're talking about play it in comparison.
The only way to get into the only way to

(36:46):
get into the goat conversation from what you three are
speaking of, is I gotta have went out and won
some rings. That's that's so. Bill Russell is the greatest
basketball player of all time. Some people may say that,
but not just because he won that. So I gotta
be good and then I gotta win, and then that
makes me better. I'm just going off of talent. I'm

(37:10):
telling you who is the better talent. Damn Marino is
a better talent than Tom Brady. He was a better
quarterback than Tom Brady. And see what I'm saying. Only
Tom Brady played on better teams than Dan Marino.

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And now back to the sports job. Wayne Yndy.

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Speaker 7 (40:28):
London say you can see the sports jaint, I'll sing
even Jenny, welcome back to this spot shock show.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I'm the sports shock Wayne can T. We left talking
about Lebron James and at forty and twenty two years
in the NBA. Uh And and I've heard other guys
Gibble Arenas, Jay Williams, Tracy McGrady, a lot of guys
spoke on this in the last week or so about

(40:59):
the ring called when the winning a ring in team
sports be a defining factor of how great a player
you are. We see awards for team sports kind of

(41:23):
you know, guys like Charles Barkley, Guys like Karl Malone,
Alan Iverson, Barry Sanders, Barry Bonds. We've seen guys Damn Marino.
We see guys that, in essence and my conscience, are
the greatest at what they do. But our culture now says,

(41:48):
but if you didn't win a ring, and I guess
maybe people don't grasp how hard it is to win
a team sport without a team. Everybody talks about it
as though it's a one on one ideology. But I'm

(42:11):
on a team. Somebody blocks for the quarterback, somebody pitches
for Barry Bonds. I can go out and hit four
home runs in a game and lose, and you're saying
I hit four home runs each game and then win

(42:32):
a championship. I asked, my I still aren't as good
as the guy I got a question. And that's what
gets confusing. I've I've never understood the magnitude. And when
I look at an athlete, I look at the individual.
The winning incomes that they got better teams more so
than you're better than this player. But go ahead, bat producer.

(42:54):
I know if someone online has something to say, then
you say yeah.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
One of our lower listeners, Keith Ramsey asked, or just
coming to imagine Bird without a ring or Jordan without
a ring? And before you start, bad producer, We've often
had discussions on this show and you make the comment
that the victors write the history. The people who win
the war write the history. These people who win these
rings have set the bar as this is part of

(43:19):
what you have to be to be a goat. Now,
I didn't make those rules. I just live in the roofs.
Like with the there are a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
The media made these rules.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
Well, just like we had recently politically, they changed a
lot of names of military bases and took down statues
and those were historic monuments. But people decided that the
bar that had been set, the media whomever decided no, no,

(43:50):
they wanted to change.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
There's only two people. There is the media and then
there's the players. It's like I tell you about hitting,
the media decided to remove a hit or play. Is
that not correct? Per?

Speaker 13 (44:08):
Is that not what told us? He did tell us.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
That that the media, which is the they decide and
then we adhere to whatever.

Speaker 13 (44:18):
Rule that the fans won.

Speaker 7 (44:21):
So there was a time film and I'm saying, a
lot of this is a shift in sensible and you
can tell this with with the A lot of this
is a lot of this shifting sensibility. There was a
time when we were told that the goat has to
be this, this, this, and this.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
No, I don't know, I don't remember that. I don't know.
I can say that too.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
It never really was that there was a time when
to be a goat you had to have a championship. No,
there was a time to be a goat that in
the goat conversation you had to talk about the number
of rings that goat had won. And now sensibilities have
changed and people want.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
To Kenny, I didn't even know about the heart. I
didn't know about winnings rings. Into the nineties, nobody cared
whether you had won a ring or not. They cared
about how you performed. Dominique Wilkins was Dominique Wilsons, and
he was the human highlight film. Whether he had a
ring or not was not whether I thought he was great,

(45:20):
And sensibility shifted. That's what I'm saying. This is what
Lebron is saying. When did you decide that the ring
is the common thread with greatness?

Speaker 7 (45:32):
When the rings started being attached to the shoe sails.

Speaker 9 (45:35):
And the jersey wales, I think as eras changed. Like
Lebron never played against Jordan, So if there's a faction
of people at Jordan's the greatest player, now there's.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
But you don't demand Lebron think about Lebron got drafted
twenty three years ago. In the twenty three years since then, Right,
how many guys have been regulated demanded to win a ring?
I think that you ain't have an outside from him
that that ring must be one. Shay Gilchrist won a

(46:13):
ring last night. Right, he has it on his finger.
He's he's good, But he had he didn't come into
the leading mandated. His greatness wasn't going to be defined
if he didn't. Well listen, So it seems like you
only made this rule up for Lebron. Two things?

Speaker 13 (46:36):
Can I say?

Speaker 1 (46:36):
You did?

Speaker 5 (46:37):
You not?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
You don't seen the real league?

Speaker 7 (46:38):
I got to I need to say I got to.
I got to first. Kenny the goat. I never heard
the word goat.

Speaker 13 (46:48):
Associated only athlete ever heard about being a goat was
Muhammad Ali. Never heard that with any other sport until
like the late nineties you start hearing early two thousand,
we started hearing about goats always Muhammad Ali was the goat.
My thing is like a lot of us talked over
the weekend. If well Lebron bringing this up and he's

(47:09):
saying this, Well, why did you go to Miami? Why
did you do what you do to go get a ring?

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Then?

Speaker 7 (47:14):
And now you're saying the ring culture was a problem,
and it's and by you going and other seeing you
move and making super teams or kad in then moving around,
you helped create this ring culture.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
No, I did not. No, I think he leaned into it,
and now he I did not. I didn't. I did not.
It's just he did the same thing that. First of all,
before y'all go to putting on Lebron, Kevin the big ticket,
Garnett left Minnesota, Ray Allen left Milwaukee to go play
with Paul Pierce to start this whole Big three thing off.

(47:52):
So stop trying to lay the law on Lebron. Now,
somebody smart like Lebron who was eight team when he
got in the league places five or six years and
realizes that Big Kenny is never going to respect his
game unless he wins a ring. Well, I guess I

(48:13):
better go find me a better team then, because because
I want to be in the goat company.

Speaker 7 (48:18):
Because that's the only way I can be in it.
That's and that's the only way I can get in it.
The reality, and that's all I'm thinking about. The reality.
That's why, that's why, that's why we have a ring culture.
But that reality, his reality right, see abilities change.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
He had to go search for a ring because you
ain't gonna give him no credit.

Speaker 7 (48:36):
And sports yack. Listen, what I'm saying is this at
my age. Now I realize who I was at twenty three.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
But that's something. But twenty three, you wasn't gonna tell
me not to be that person.

Speaker 9 (48:47):
Perspective preceded Lebron too, as far as like when guys
came into the league and they became stars, winning awards
or whatever, there's some there are people in the meetings like, oh,
they're never going to win.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
They said that about Jordan. He can't know they didn't.

Speaker 13 (49:04):
They did say that about Mike.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Mike that never had. Mike had no pressure to win nothing.

Speaker 9 (49:08):
I mean, it's not saying there was pressure to do
with me Michael George. They said he can't win playing
like that.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah, he can't be out the way he was win
not champions not championship, championship.

Speaker 9 (49:21):
When he got his head, it was it wasn't It
wasn't as loud because this is it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
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Speaker 1 (51:51):
What makes it a sports shock show? I'm the sports
shock Wayne again, did good morning to you. We've had
a great debate here about the ring culture. It seems
to be only demanded We've talked about that before on
the show. Who gets has to go? Win? The Atlanta

(52:11):
Hawks drafted first pick of the draft risus Year, but
he has no pressure of delivering a championship none. So

(52:31):
I'm giving you he has no pressure I even getting
us to the playoffs. I'm giving you an example of
how the idea of the ring seems to only count
towards one or two people. Steven A. Smith, who someone
sent me a report I don't even know why. We

(52:53):
you know, say would be ring and it's under achievement
and and that.

Speaker 9 (53:01):
And it's it's going to that step now to where
you gotta win the ring in a certain way, or
you gotta win a certain number of rings. A lot
of people, as far as the goat debate, it's always
Lebron and Jordan, and don't include a player like Kobe.
And they said, well, those first three rings don't count

(53:22):
because he had Shack.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Well, Kobe Ranshack out of town because the ring culture
demanded he has to be the key element to the ring.
So still of me keeping the diesel around and making
it easy. But I'm not going you're not going to
give me the credit for it, because what people still

(53:45):
don't do. They still don't illuminate that. Most guy that
win ring did it with two other Hall of famers.
That's typically the makeup of the team there.

Speaker 9 (54:06):
I think the only outlier of that is the two
thousand and four Pistons, well two of them in there.
But they have to they have to Johnson, Bill Luke's
Ben Wallace. I think I think, like the top seventy offer,
there's a couple of.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Rip Hamilton got a case, Prince. You just need the
right person to go in and he gonna throw He
is like, hold on, y'all, hold on. I'm just I'm
just saying if somebody like a DeMar DeRozan goes in right,
then Rip Hamilton's gonna feel like, here go my rep.
So I'm saying every all the rest of these teams

(54:42):
got multiple but they only put it on one person.
And I just always, as I said, I've always wondered
this from even as an athlete, how does that diminish
the greatness of Karl Malone? And ask you this? You
just Allen iverson telling me ai Ai, I'm not a

(55:03):
real person. Not the computer program Alan all one hundred
and sixty eight pounds of was not what you would
deem to be an incredible basketball player. He was a
incredible at now the answer to your yeah, he's the answer.

Speaker 13 (55:24):
That's why they called him.

Speaker 7 (55:25):
Listeners, now, while we're having this, you called it a
spirited debate sports jock and Keith Ramsey said it sounds
like sports jock want to take Big Kenny in the
bad producer, he said, my man producer and put the
pads and gear on and set of this outside. Hold up,
waits listen next note, but listen next to what he
said here on the next one. Well, I just want

(55:46):
and this is the next thing I said. Well, I
didn't see Uncle Charlie's comment. Oh uh, he said Keith
Ramsey trying to get the sports jock childe with a homicide.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
But this is what you you just mentioned. You mentioned
I've walked out on the field, and if I go
out on the field, God rest is soul. Derreck Thomas
play for the Chiefs. Blave Alabama. Didn't get a ring,
right he bad boy, bad boy? We we the people

(56:18):
the left tackle no understand that we're going to Arrowhead.
There's gonna be some smoke going in to day.

Speaker 7 (56:29):
Hey yea, And and that leads and that leads me
to my That segues me to my question for you.
Is you mentioned earlier that the media decided and then
you mentioned a stephen A saying that if Giannis doesn't

(56:51):
win another ring, he's an underachiever. Is the problem that
we've made the sports broadcaster more of an authority than
the actual athlete. Oh definitely. And stephen A really don't
know what he taught because he was.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
He was on a panel last week with Tracy McGrady
and Gilbert Arenas, who both had long careers. For those
first seven eight years of team at.

Speaker 9 (57:20):
Career he got he was getting in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
We had that back surgery and couldn't jump anymore, and they,
to a man, said that that's not what makes you
the goat. Michael Jordan is what we call the best
play of all time. I can't argue a part that

(57:48):
makes that not true. I can argue a part where
Lebron is on the same level that Kareem career was
even more out rageous. We're just talking about careers.

Speaker 13 (58:03):
Yeah, the only man to win in high school, college
and the pros.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
But you never heard stephen A say, but Corien do.
But it seems that the narrative is to always find
a space that Michael Jordan comes up on top. They
always cut edit the film at the statistic that allows

(58:29):
him to be he never missed a shot, and my thing,
I think that.

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out there listening land guys. We've talked about the championship
won by ok C. Young team that seems to have
a good team unity like it just is just a
good team with an up and coming superstar and s

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g A. But they they don't. I mean, whoever draft
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we will see when the endorsements and the winning does
it go to anyone head, But right now, the temperament
of them, it just blends together. They got the recipe down.

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Two pinches of this black pepper round, they got it.
Just they go to throw the garlic. No, no, just
three pinches, one pinch out. Yeah, they seem to have it.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
They seem And now I saw shades of that with Indiana,
and it seemed to be more glaring last night when
Tyler Halliburton went out that one pinch seemed to affect them,
especially in the third quarter when they start having all
those turnovers. He seemed to be the deciding factor in
them staying calm. Okay, we you know, we made mistakes

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before everybody calmed down and then they come back and
pull it together.

Speaker 9 (01:02:53):
He's their prime, their primary playmaker, right and McConnell, TJ
McConnell come in, he's not really that, he's one that
like is that spark off the bench. Yeah, what I'm saying,
he's far as being that playmaker. Halliburton was really the
only guy on the roster that they have, so it
affected that. It affected them like who can get somebody?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
And this is something I tell with the Hawks and
me and the Bad Producer of going back and forth
about you do have to have that whoever is your
main guy has to have a certain magnetism to them. Yeah,
that the other guys are drawn too. And I say
that the people and I'm like, it's just it's the vibe,

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the volume that Trey is vibing at doesn't seem to
bring the guys to him.

Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
It's not one, he doesn't vibrate three.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
It's like they are still Trey Young and the tray yet.

Speaker 23 (01:04:00):
Right right, it's not the Hawks, not the Hawks' not
not the Hawks. Temptation, temptation, And then it was David
Roughing the heartbeats and that's and that's what I tell people.
I say, it's not It's just that either Trade will

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mature in a year or two. But there's a vibe
that he has to give the other guys that does
not diminish his greatness or his ability, but it lures
that he has some kind of fear that someone is
going to outshine in so he vibrates where he makes
sure alone not big Kenny be going out here scoring

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thirty points. You see you ain't got with seventeen and
now you're trying to show me up.

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
Well see that. This is what I'm saying about it Trade.
You said he got a couple more years to make
me mature. I would think by this time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
No, I believe I'm saying more like for the Hawks
to continue to think that he's the guy, right, is
what I mean. I'm talking about. There's going to be
some sort of ship with his philosophy, and I'm like, well,
you you're that guy has to win or lose. Something

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has to be And I've sold a b abroduce of this.
Where other the other superstar that you're missing wants to
come here? Where KD did? Have you AD's now got
traded from the Suns to the Rockets, right right, But
the Hawks wasn't on his short list at all. And
the Hawks, anybody's short list of the places that has

(01:05:43):
to do with either the coach or the superstar, is
vibing what this guy wants to come. Can we can
we start saying maybe management, because here's the maturity thing
with Trey with management for like thirty five years. It's
been a problem with the Hawks. Even it goes back

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with Picky and chooser.

Speaker 13 (01:06:06):
But my thing is with Trey was when after the
New York series, when he bought bought Atlanta back and
he put us on the back and we went real
deep in the playoffs. You would think that that's when
you thought that he would get that frequency, right, but
he did never did so but the Hawks. But I'm
saying the Hawks missed on that. You think that they
would say, hey, let me get him out of here,

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let's get some other frequency to try to get us
on that frequency, but they haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
I would put it as simple as this, before you
go to management, I don't know Trey Young, just like
I didn't know I don't know Shuder Sanders. How the
players react to Trey and even shoulder back in Cleveland.
I don't not in Cleveland. In Colorado, it's as though
they came to practice with two dough nuts. They knew

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they was going to practice, and both of them, but
just getting a dozen. Both of these donuts. I stopped anyway,
so I will.

Speaker 7 (01:07:08):
Just get I came in eating one donut and holding
another donut in my bare hands, so you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Know when they eat him. I just went on and
guy a dozen and put them on the table in
the middle. They come in and I play with guys
like that. They don't ever attract Most of them are receivers.
I do want to know why receivers are like they are.
They all like that. It's just one egg McMuffin in

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that bag. He's never coming in with something for the
rest of the guy. He does everything in a solo.
Our guys with yellow jackets instead of can't you want
to know why they're different, because that's literally their temperament.

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It is the eye show to the point that's they
just come back with one gatorade. Y'all all the way
over that to the cooler. It's Olco mantion Greg over there.

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
Cramp came back with the pint size gator, right, I
ain't know you ain't ain't even a swig.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
For the record, you gotta have a guy that man
that that kind of gives that vibe off, whether it's
true or not. KD at least is honest with his
You're not expecting anything from here hosting the team barbecue. Hey, KD,
you want to know you even ask Hey, KD, would

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you be No, we didn't ask you.

Speaker 7 (01:08:36):
Just whatever it is, find somebody else to do about
to pass me the song. This dude, this dude, broh
y'all get y'all boy twin. He's stressing me out with
this past last a Tobyo Brown seems to be out
of the country from what the reports say, how much

(01:08:59):
is that he is still wanted for attempted murders? That
still was he wanting in their interest interest? Okay, he
thought it was a warrant still pending. Listen, listen, if
you can afford to get out of the country to
dodge the warrant, I would say, you know.

Speaker 13 (01:09:19):
I hope there's hope we went some way he can't
be extradited.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Well, I'm sure that's where he.

Speaker 7 (01:09:27):
I think he's in Venezuela or somewhere like where it's
going to be difficult at very.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
But but and that's why I brought it up because
I know you and Bad Producer know a lot about
this subject of dodging the police, right because we all
do it.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
Yeah, we've all been on the run from the police.
That right, you're right, sports twin, that's my twin right there,
you're right, you're right. Listen, t this is how I go.

Speaker 10 (01:09:53):
Good.

Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
If he's in a country that doesn't have loose extradition
laws or doesn't have an extradition treating country, they doesn't
say where he is, but he gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Have to stay there. Now, will the government try to
hold this against him?

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, Well, what I'm saying, they'll put the
warrant out and he has to stay where he is
because if he goes to the airport and he goes
to any country that has extradition to the consulate, when
he goes through customs, it'll flag warrant and they'll just
hold him in that country for the United States to
come get him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
So he is under the understanding that once he decides
to come back to the United States.

Speaker 7 (01:10:30):
He can't come back as they're gonna arrest him. Yes,
he knows that. So he might just be trying to
get a couple of fun days in or just because
he got to be on a time limit. Yeah, time
limit over this country. Yeah, you can't be here forever. Yes,
unless they have a ninety days yeah, something like a

(01:10:50):
visa depends on the country.

Speaker 13 (01:10:52):
Yeah, unless he got a work visa.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
So he might knowing him, He just might be having
a couple of free, happy.

Speaker 7 (01:10:58):
Days trying to figure out his how we're gonna work
this out, seeing if the person would take a plea.
It takes it takes going to court to do all Okay, okay,
So now the smart thing would have been to empty
that counts and then leave the country because you have
to have court orders to do all of that. So

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he could have done that, gotten his money and transferred
it somewhere else. And now he just planned to hop
island island til you know what I mean, until they
catch up with him. It's some people to do that,
just stay on the run until you catch me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
So what would be his best plan to just go
ahead on and turn himself.

Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
In Twain, You'd have to ask somebody else about turning
I don't have no point of reference for you got no.

Speaker 9 (01:11:45):
No, I'm just saying if he ran, he probably did it. No,
he ain't running, man, He just going to chill it relaxed.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
For a little bit. We don't know that because he
tweets that.

Speaker 9 (01:11:56):
The message he put out when he left, he said
it was about the country.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Ain't no more child support. Tell your mama get a job.

Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
See that's that's a declaration, right, there's nothing about the
actual ran from running from child support.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Give him around of applause for that one. A B.

Speaker 7 (01:12:23):
This is the big chest, mister, Tell your mama to
get a job.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
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Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
No, no, it ain't scarce. Twins ain't scarce.

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Oh you know, sports Jock, I actually was gone, I'm
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all the drama that I bring she used to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
I mean, I'm saying she got her own bag of drama.
She ain't got time to worry about just going crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:18:43):
She's got time to worry about me and my little
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What's in the bag? Canny White smell like that she
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She recently divorced from the Africa.

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Aren't we all recently divorced. It's not from African Me
and Porch on the same pathway because Kevin Durant was
the big news of the other than the championship.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Kevin Durant now Houston Rocket.

Speaker 13 (01:19:13):
I sen the meme that said he got to go
check in with Jay Prince though, uh with Jay Prince. Yeah,
before he comes to Houston, he got to check in.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
That's that's on his timeline. That's black Twitter or black eggs,
whatever they call it. Now, why would I need to
check in with because.

Speaker 7 (01:19:30):
J Prince is the crime lord boss of Houston allegedly.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Because when you go to Detroit, you got check in
with Trick Trick. I've been to Detroit. I didn't check in.

Speaker 13 (01:19:42):
We'll see what you not in that you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
I'm in the world.

Speaker 13 (01:19:46):
You missed when.

Speaker 7 (01:19:51):
I go places like that, and I'm in places like that,
and I ain't never checked in with Trick Trick.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Because when you say that somebody needs to check in,
you make it sound like the person is about to
do something criminal. Now it's not, it's it's it makes
it seem like that.

Speaker 13 (01:20:07):
But right now it was like because you even heard
like right before rich only Kwan had passed away. He
said that when he first went out to La, the
guy said, hey, we gotta go see big you and
them before I take you to the hotel. So he
said they was at the park with the kids out
doing things, football part or something, and so they went
and just said hey to them or so, hey, I'm
in the town. Yeah, we knew us it down.

Speaker 7 (01:20:28):
We know the alleged the alleged philosophy behind this. It's
high profile people coming to my city needs checking in
with me, and it's alleged that this is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Somewhat of a shakedown.

Speaker 7 (01:20:39):
But if you come in and check in with me
and you basically I ensure your safety. Why you here
and for that privilege, you make sure that you take
care of us and the people, which you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Again all of that is alleged, but I need protection
to go down here. To Ruth Chris, it's what people
in Atlanta. See.

Speaker 13 (01:21:02):
You don't have to check in. You are Atlanta right now.
But see there's really no check in in Atlanta because
it's just certain cities that try to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
We play ball in La Saint Louis, Pittsburgh, New Orleans,
San Antonio.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
I ain't checked and This is the other nuance of
that side. The people that say you gotta check in
with me might make you feel uncomfortable for your safety
because they might want to do something to you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
But people but people but me.

Speaker 7 (01:21:34):
But I'm not afraid of that because I'll have somebody
come do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Something to you too.

Speaker 13 (01:21:38):
But sports jock is not active, so they wouldn't come
to him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
When I played, I wasn't active, no meaning like like
most of the high profile people twit in a nutshell,
if I need to go check in with you about something,
I don't need to go to those places anyway anyway anyway.
So you know why I didn't check in because I
don't want to come hang out with you anyway, y'all.

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I don't want to hang in no area that needs
to be checked in because I doubt that you're checked
in places are even attractive. So when you say that
I know what check in, don't don't think I just
fell off the tree. I just always wonder why I

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wasn't planning to go down to the South side of
Chicago anyway for no real reason period. I don't want
to see the street that they shot to shy on
nothing and you're gonna have to come down here to
the risk you got to come find no, because I
believe that Chicago has just as much fun in the

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places I can want to go without being checked in,
they might not.

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Welcome back to the sport Shock Show. I'm the sport shock.
Wayne Gandy, Good morning. We've been talking about Antonio Brown,
Kevin d rant the champions OKC s g A, and
his teammates even through into Florida Panthers winning the NHL
the Stanley Cup. One thing I was reading while researching

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last night was NBA free agents across the league are
trying to excuse me. NBA agents across the league are
trying to get their clients to duck the Charlotte Hornets
in hopes of avoiding a place beside LaMelo Ball. Despite

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his talents, ball shortcomings on defense and as a leader
for his team, I put his worth and value as
a player in to question a strong statement right there.

Speaker 7 (01:26:48):
Well, how would that affect me and my valuation? You're
not being because he's the leader of the team, or.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Well he's the face of the franchise, and as an agent,
you're trying you're really basically seeing the Hornets as a
last resort right kind of destination mm hmm. Kind of
what we were talking about as whoever is supposed to
be the band leader right right now, creating a space

(01:27:20):
to where people want to play.

Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
And because of the CBA with the NBA Players Association
and all of that. Those contracts are guaranteed. So the
Hornets would hear that and go, yeah, we the band
ain't in sync, but we can't fire. They're gonna have
to finish out this run. And you know what I mean.
They they're booked, heered through the end of the month.

(01:27:43):
They're gonna have to finish out these Yeah, I was
love the story. Yeah, as far at least one draft.

Speaker 9 (01:27:49):
Prospect it was trying to did not work out for
them because of LaMelo Ball, like he didn't want to
work out for the team.

Speaker 22 (01:27:58):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
So now you're the team, what does that make you think?
It would make me think because LaMelo Ball definitely has
the talent and the skill level. I mean when I've
gone and Washington played very talented young man. He is
the most talented of all three of the brothers. His

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dad was correct about that. But he does ooze with immaturity.
It's not they're not making that part of him up.
He's you know, he spends more time dialoguing with the
fans and and not participating with his teams. This is

(01:28:41):
while on the court. So if anything, I would try
to maybe get this is when you have to hope
the one or two Chris Paul's are still around, maybe
you could get to come for you fourth pick the teacher.

Speaker 7 (01:28:58):
And see that that's the sportslo this is his fourth year.

Speaker 13 (01:29:03):
You said, no, we was asking what piggy they had.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
This will be.

Speaker 7 (01:29:06):
He's and things the learning curve, and that's what I
imagine is part of the reality of professional sports is
the learning curve is truncated.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
We don't have years for you to catch on.

Speaker 7 (01:29:23):
We've got games in this season and then we've got
this block of games where you're gonna take what you
learned in the first half of the season and then
catapult that to by the time we get to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
You're actually contributing to this team.

Speaker 9 (01:29:35):
And was I say, at the same time, you're bringing
this young player to be the leader of your team,
the face of the franchise, and everyone on the team
is about the same age, so they're not there's no
veteran leadership. There's no one for like to take LaMelo,
there's an.

Speaker 13 (01:29:56):
Old leader older not on the Hornets.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
We're not on any a lot.

Speaker 13 (01:30:00):
Of teams there are like that. In the NBA, they
don't have that and that player and there are some
uh Okay, see the roster's not with no players have
been there a long time, been in the league. But
my thing is with the back to the draft part
of it, young Man said never done Playingly, he doesn't
want to work out for the Hornets. They got the

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fourth pick because of LaMelo Ball and different things. LaMelo
has shoe deals, he has endorsements and everything. Don't you
think that might hurt that that draft prospect also in
a sense that he's probably just instead of saying.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
He know they don't want to go. They don't want
him to.

Speaker 13 (01:30:39):
Go to Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Now the sensibility is the Lamental ball, but.

Speaker 13 (01:30:42):
They just I don't want him to go to Charlotte.
I think it's more of that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
I think the sensibilities have changed.

Speaker 7 (01:30:47):
We've seen athletes and my first my first being aware
of it came I believe when it was Bo Jackson society.
He was going to play baseball, then go be drafted
to Tampa Bay. And then the next person I saw
do it was Eli Manning say no, I ain't never

(01:31:09):
played a down NFL football, but if this team draft me,
I'm not going. And I thought that that was something
that was a Cardinal seeing like the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Whole least would company out who this player was then
because it wasn't flag, I don't know who else is it.

Speaker 7 (01:31:22):
I'm saying all of these now have started to find
room on whatever platform they're a part of to say
stuff like that, Well, I don't want to go to
this team, or have we saw chadur say that they had.

Speaker 13 (01:31:38):
You see what should do?

Speaker 7 (01:31:39):
Or this?

Speaker 13 (01:31:40):
That's what I'm saying. And you, if you try to
command like that, I feel like you should get bombed down.

Speaker 7 (01:31:46):
And I'm saying that. I'm not saying I disagree with you.
I'm saying that a lot of the lesson that could
have been learned in the Shador Sanders incident and they
was missed because they blamed it on Dion. They didn't
blame it on teams being offended because he said he
don't want to play and ain't never played.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
You wasn't that good in college twins? Well, I think
as an organization, I would love for a player to
step up and tell me he doesn't want to be
here and we can avoid all of that wasting money
on you. I don't think that less of you. I
mean if this young man whoever he is might have
the same agent as another player that's on the hornet

(01:32:25):
who's getting inside information, like, hey man, you don't want
to come be part of this clown show. Players get
asked about different cities, different coaches, you know, part of it.
I think LaMelo from what I see his teammates, and
I said that with a lot of guys, people always

(01:32:46):
think that it's the franchise, right, Sometimes it's the player
because the other guys understand they're not the role this
guy is going to play in my success. You're looking
at it as though I should just be happy to
go play with LaMelo. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:33:07):
I'm looking at it as I'm coming out. I'm happy
that I'm gonna get a chance to be drafted in
the first round of one of these thirty two teams.

Speaker 13 (01:33:15):
I'm not going.

Speaker 9 (01:33:16):
I'm Some guys want to have even though it's a draft.
They want to have some control of where they can.

Speaker 13 (01:33:21):
But it's never really but sports Jack, if you want, okay,
let's go right, let me finish nineteen ninety four. If
you had a choice where you wanted to go, and
you could have finagled it, where would you want to.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
Go off your first season.

Speaker 13 (01:33:38):
First, you knew you were in the first round, and
if you could have finagled, then the way where I
want to go?

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Where would you want to go? Probably the Dolphins had
the next pick behind me, and you wanted to go there?
If yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't have a want.
I'm saying, if I could have switched from going out
to LA to stay down in Miami, Miami, yeah, with
a proven quarterback. The Rams at the time was in

(01:34:06):
rev We're trying to bring in Chris Miller to be
the quarterback from Atlanta, and Dan Marino was still in Miami.

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
And what I'm saying is all of that, your philosophy
is rooted in your sensibility. And we've seen a shift
in the sensibility. It used to be you're blessed, your privileged,
just to have the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
To go to the league.

Speaker 7 (01:34:31):
And now with all of these nil deals and these
being a star since I was seven, these kids have
a different sensibility of entitlement.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
I can go where I want to. Look at Caleb Williams, he.

Speaker 7 (01:34:42):
Was crying in college and then he goes to the
NFL and he wants to be this person and justin fields.
He goes to the NFL and he wants to dictate
to the people how and what he plays and how
you're gonna use him. And that's being accepted now and
people are going going along with some of those programs.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
So and shit, we just talked about Kevin Durant giving
a short list. Jimmy Butler gave the Heat two or
three teams. Well, I understand the veteran. I'm just talking
about the It's the same where you you know, if
I can avoid, I don't want. I guess. I'm just
I'm just.

Speaker 7 (01:35:19):
I guess I'm not if I had an opportunity, if
I was had that guy given talent to be drafted
in the first round or be happy to be drafted.

Speaker 13 (01:35:30):
It seemed like the kids are not.

Speaker 9 (01:35:32):
I say, as he didn't want to go that particular prospect,
didn't want to go to Charlotte. He didn't want to
play with LaMelo Ball because he sees LaMelo Ball as
a loser.

Speaker 13 (01:35:42):
Okay, and let's say what I wish.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
We know that. I hope it comes out later. We
know who it was. And then we found out he
draft dropped draft in the second round or late in
the first, why would.

Speaker 13 (01:35:55):
You want him to I'm not saying I wanted to.
I'm just saying I just hopefully.

Speaker 9 (01:35:58):
He's not gonna that that particular players probably not falling
in the draft. I saw a story about Ace Bailey.
He's probably gonna be the third pick by the Sixers.
He skipped the Sixers workout, but that doesn't change that
the Sixers may still draft him. Man, I wouldn't even
that that like, just because it's like I don't want
to go here. That the way you do it, you

(01:36:20):
draft anymore. It doesn't come in the job interview and
the way you feel.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
The only reason guys want to be drafted high is money. Yeah,
but you don't want to be drafted high because the
high teams are the sorry team. So when you really
ask a person what they want to be, well, I
want to go to the Kansas City Chiefs if I'm
gonna tight end. I didn't want you to draft me
at six to the Arizona Couote Cardinals. I want number

(01:36:45):
six money. But if I could take them and move
the Chiefs up to there, that's really how it works,
and you're going to be in a bad situation. That's
one thing we have to talk about on the show
one day that you were dealt a bad hand when
you're the first pick of the draft as a quarterback.
You your hands so bad, you have no spades. And

(01:37:07):
the way you feel.

Speaker 13 (01:37:07):
About books made books waye but ain't books made.

Speaker 7 (01:37:11):
I ain't got no spec And the way you feel
about the players is why the Sabans retired because I'm
not finna put up with you acting like you've done
done this and you ain't never you you haven't even
proved yourself on the professional, only on college.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
So I was just bringing up a story when I
keep trying to tell people that you have to have
a star that other people want to play with, want
to play with. If you don't, you're gonna have to
totally rely on the draft. We'll be back more to
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Lock on so you can see a sports chaint. I'll
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I'm the sports shock Wing Gandy. Uh it looks like
the Lakers are for sale. Oh they have been sold? Okay?
How much did they go for? Ten billion dollars? Okay

(01:40:45):
ten billions? Ten billion dollars? Do we know who bought them? Uh?
It's uh, I know his last name is Walter. Was
he from the tech world? It might have been the

(01:41:06):
like the Clippers owner. Clippers owner was like the head
of Microsoft or something something like that. Why do tech guys?

Speaker 9 (01:41:13):
Mark Walter, CEO of t w G Global sounds tech.
And he's already a uh part owner, it's not majority
owner of the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
Okay, so he's already.

Speaker 9 (01:41:32):
The Professional Women's Hockey League. The their championship is called
the Walter Cup, which is named after him.

Speaker 13 (01:41:40):
So he's uh so he's in with Magic. Magic is
already a part of that Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Group, so you know, but this he's he's the main, Yeah,
the main. How much of the team did he buy
a majority or it is a it is a majority
steak that he had.

Speaker 9 (01:41:59):
He had had like a certain percentage already, so he
was already a part owner of the Lakers. I think
it was like eighty percent of something.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
That fact. So the Bush family has decided to move
on with the ten billion.

Speaker 9 (01:42:18):
But Jeanie is still going to be in charge, so
they see they still have partial ownership.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Okay. So so Jenie bus gets like a sweet or something.

Speaker 7 (01:42:28):
She don't have to pay for tickets, but she's definitely
not decision making anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:42:33):
Yeah, yes, yes, okay, see the governor see that seems
like here, I'm gonna say you my stuff, but I'm
still being contry.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Still got like five percent. Mark Cubany had the same
kind of deal with the Mavericks, didn't he.

Speaker 9 (01:42:47):
Yeah, he still has. He still has a stake in
the Mavericks a lot of the time.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
Say you my car. I'm gonna drive it, though, And
I would imagine that the family we have to look
up the family tree. Probably not a lot of grandkids.
Things like that. A lot of times when you start
doing that, there's no one left to give it to
give it to, so I might as well cash it out,
or no one even left to give it to that

(01:43:13):
wants to run it.

Speaker 7 (01:43:14):
Or knows how to run it from you, I'm not Yeah,
I'm not gonna let them run.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
Rob say his three daughters just took over the colts.

Speaker 13 (01:43:21):
They want They've been involved since they were young, young ladies,
and each one took a different position and role. So
you know, if you ain't got nothing, if your kids
ain't involved.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
Or.

Speaker 13 (01:43:31):
These young ladies they want to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
So because Jeannie was like the youngest, she was the
youngest sibling the four or five kids that yeah, mister
Bush and she's what now sixty five? Yeah, so she
the youngest. Wow. Yeah, So it might have just been
a function of there are no no grandkids. This is
the nephews or the ones that are. That's not their mindset. Yeah,

(01:43:57):
a little Timmy's an imbecile. Yeah, Little Timmy's at the
Beverly Hills Country Club every day. He's not trying to
learn anything. Well, he could be the smartest man in
the world as we are learning with this generation just
does not want responsibility. That's true. They don't want grass,

(01:44:18):
they don't want no I'm saying to the point, they
don't want.

Speaker 7 (01:44:22):
Any any responsibility, any any recurring built in responsibility.

Speaker 13 (01:44:28):
But like I said with the daughters, luck you see,
mister Blank's son, he's gave it over. But this since
he was like a teenager, he's been right by his
dad and want to he was like mister Blankett even said, hey,
he's always given.

Speaker 7 (01:44:40):
Well again, but it's got the sensibilities. There was a
time when you didn't have a choice. I own a team,
You're going to learn the business and one day you'll
take the team over.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
Period.

Speaker 7 (01:44:50):
But now kids are willing to go well, no, I
don't want to take over a professional sports team, and
they're willing to live with the scrutiny of what did
you just say? Are you serious? Like all that hard
work your dad did you don't want to preserve that?
And no, I don't, and I don't feel guilty about it,
and I don't feel like I owe my family anything.
We live in a truly me generation. This is the

(01:45:12):
first person, most first person generation I've ever seen in
my life where there is no the responsibility is a
burden of me. Even behaving a certain way, it feels
like a burden to me. So don't give me any
of that. But I want I want the perks. I
want all of the perks. I just don't want the responsibility.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
And you see more and more athletes as they get older,
deciding to go ahead and sell some of their stuff
because they understand that their children are not going to
see it in this way. That's all they're going to do.
So you raise them long enough to realize they're not
going to keep my things in this kind. They're gonna

(01:45:55):
sell my bible, yeah yeah, my trophies.

Speaker 7 (01:45:59):
My trophy is in a closet at his house behind
some comic books, like you know that was my high
school h M v P State trophy and you got
it in a closet behind some comic books and it
doesn't and then you said to me, oh, Daddy, is
just a trophy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
So I'm not gonna leave any of these. Yeah, you
have some of those traditional franchises. Jerry Jones is trying
to do that with his The Roonies and the Steelers.
But for every one of them, you have one that's
a new generation is going along. They're not looking to
do all that.

Speaker 7 (01:46:36):
You mean, get up and go into the office and
be like looking over papers and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
I really cash out. That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 7 (01:46:44):
I'm gonna just cash it out and then I'll figure
something else to do.

Speaker 9 (01:46:47):
And I imagine that. I imagine I don't want to
do anything. I just might have enough the rest of
my life.

Speaker 1 (01:46:54):
And Kenny passes away, his kids see that they can
cash out in billion or they can run it. What
do you think they're gonna do if they my keys?
They're not even waiting for me to die.

Speaker 7 (01:47:10):
They trying to catch They coming up with a Steve
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Twin you ain't got to read it. Travis Hunter has
signed a four year deal with the Jaguars. I can't
see how they use him this year. Was still a
little big debate receiver, defensive back. As I have said,
you can start him on either side. I think he'd

(01:47:40):
be just as dominant, But I don't know that you
can play him full time on both sides. I've never
seen it done. I've seen guys do a lot of things.
He's not the first multi facet football athlete, but even
his mentor Dion, had to pick a side. He did.

(01:48:03):
He did because he was He was the first Travis.
He was one of the first Travis's. They put him
in a couple of plays and run on some deep
routes because of his speed, but that was about it. Yeah, yeah,
so we'll see. But Travis Hunter a Jaguar will be back.
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Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
What wait match this what shock show, This what shack
Kwayne again? Indeed, we've been playing billboards Top seventy five
R and B song R and B singers, singers of
all time, of all time, the lists. If you get

(01:51:45):
a chance, go look at a lot to be debated.
I had a heated debate last night.

Speaker 7 (01:51:50):
Who was number one? Give us the top ten? But
can I ask a question before you get us top ten?

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
No, no, I'm saying, if you have from mess is
the R and B singers?

Speaker 13 (01:52:02):
What's the difference in the R and B song singers
is like these the best vocalists.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
The artist, just artists, not the groups, just artists.

Speaker 13 (01:52:11):
But I'm saying, I mean, that's what I'm saying. They're
going by vocal skills.

Speaker 9 (01:52:14):
Or they considered they're considering all of that vocals skills,
record sales.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
Top ten are at ten is Marvin Gay, at nine,
is R Kelly, at eight, is Mariah Carey. Listen at
seven is Prince at six, is James Brown at five,

(01:52:42):
is Whitney Houston at four, is Beyond Say. At three,
is Michael Jackson. At two is Aretha Franklin. And at
number one is Stevie Wonder. And you came in here
talking about Lebron being upset about his little culture. Are

(01:53:08):
you serious?

Speaker 7 (01:53:09):
You didn't put beyond say in front of Prince and
Mariah Carey and with Michael Jackson Whitney.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
Michael Jackson was number three.

Speaker 7 (01:53:21):
Now now Stevie Wonder number one? This I love me,
I love me some Stevie Wonder. But ain't nobody at
a Stevie Wonder show they never just blacked out.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
He ain't never been on someone.

Speaker 7 (01:53:33):
Happy birthday to you, especially with Prince. Ain't nobody had
to pass a person to the front.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
Stevie wanted the concert because these people they didn't get crushed,
They didn't have a medical emergency. They just glipsed the
king and fainted and was like, I can't take it.
Michael was too low? Come on yeah to me and
Mariah Carey. Have you ever been to a concert where

(01:54:04):
somebody passed out?

Speaker 7 (01:54:05):
Mariah Carry, Sir, You, Ryan Carry and Jermaine Debris have
the best song ever in our just ever that we
belong together.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
You're saying that mariahs Heare is too high or too low.
She should be in the top five.

Speaker 13 (01:54:24):
I got her?

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Where was Mariah Carry on? There?

Speaker 4 (01:54:30):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
This is the thing she has been. She supposed to
jump Beyonce. She's the best selling female artist of all time. Man,
But but I'm Mariah gonna jump beyond. She's not gonna jump.
Whitney Houston jumping, she wasn't. She wasn't jumping. James Brown,

(01:54:52):
she ain't jumping.

Speaker 7 (01:54:53):
I do my girl wrong. We belong together. I'm saying,
I'm saying in the list that he was just ain't
jumping because they to put her in front of Aretha Franklin.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
Twin Prince, I'm gonna put a Prince will be on
the further up, and to me, Prince should be in
the top. You can't go all for it. Prince is
a musical genius.

Speaker 13 (01:55:19):
Man, he plays.

Speaker 9 (01:55:20):
Supposed to move down though you trying to move, can't move,
Princess seven. Somebody go down, Okay, Stevie gotta go down.

Speaker 7 (01:55:29):
Give me the top five again, Stevie, m J Beyonce,
and Whitney Prince.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
Is at seven, right, James Brown is at six, Right,
Whitney Houston is at five. Okay. Beyonce is at four.
Michael Jackson is at three, got Michael at three. Aretha
Franklin is at two. Stevie number one and Stevie Wonder

(01:55:56):
is number one.

Speaker 7 (01:55:57):
I would switch. I would switch beyond and who was
behind her with Whitney Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:56:03):
I would switch. Then I would bring in front. Well,
he's trying to put like four people.

Speaker 13 (01:56:09):
I'm just bringing Mariah Carey and Prince into the top five,
and I'm pushing Beyonce and uh James Brown out of.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
The top five. I mean Jameson, I mean I know
not R and B right, added he don't don't think
put me in the top five.

Speaker 13 (01:56:32):
Prince, R and B.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
Yeah, prod R and B to Michael Jackson, I'm telling
you that I don't know Mariah Carey's song. I never
went to the DJ and requested my Rij Carey. Even
when Mariah Carey is on, I like McRath Carey to
be off. So if I'm riding and one of her
songs pop up, Oh New York, switch so over. You

(01:57:01):
could actually take Mariah carry out of the top ten.
But if you riding along and you hear I got
to get over before you go, you're gonna listen.

Speaker 7 (01:57:13):
I've got the best song ever. It's listed and he's
going on sales. Your your category is sales period.

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
That what song is that that we together? What I
don't know what that is?

Speaker 13 (01:57:27):
This is a song.

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
No no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no no no no no
no no no. That's no no no no no no
no no no. It's annoying to me. You you don't
like that song. It's the number one selling song, is
what he's saying. So this this, I gotta drive to Orlando.
Please not play that.

Speaker 7 (01:57:46):
Don't play that. What they can say like a draft,
it's like draft. They don't draft me to Mariah Carey
at the vocal prowess, body of work, career, longevity, achievements, influence,
and generational cultural impact. Well, she don't Beyonce on the
vocals because Mariah got a void considered.

Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
They considered all of that like generational impact.

Speaker 7 (01:58:11):
Now Beyonce has got to be the I mean, they
came up with a whole genre of fan for her,
the Beehive.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
These aren't just music fans.

Speaker 7 (01:58:22):
These are people who are fanatical about just Beyonce and
she All of those people will sell out whatever arena
she books. And that's when it comes to cultural impact.
She's got to be in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:58:36):
But that's what that's why lists are subjective. Yes, because
I wouldn't have had I thought R. Kelly was too low.
What number was he he was?

Speaker 7 (01:58:47):
Yeah, yeah, he should have been up there with the
remixed to ignition. Oh just all of them from you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:58:56):
And then people say they didn't want him on the
list at all, like crazy man, man, what they gotta do?

Speaker 7 (01:59:03):
What not?

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
People can't compartmentalize. I guess we all have the ocean.
The truth is he will throw your to the ocean.
It's time to rap things up on the.

Speaker 21 (01:59:19):
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Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
No exci jud impassion that you passion.

Speaker 16 (01:59:41):
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Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
Hm h when hit as Sounds of the Ocean gives
us watch out testamente event. We'd like to thank you
for tuning into today's show. If you missed any of it,
you can go to Apple Podcasts, Amazon Podcast, Audible, Deezer, iHeartRadio,

(02:00:21):
or Spotify. Here the replay. Big Kenny Kamanchi, Greg Bat producer,
thank you for your contributions to today's show. Today is
going to a group of people. I don't have any names,
but I do have the mindset. Any of you that

(02:00:41):
are out there buying height, going to doctors to become
two or three inches taller, spending two hundred three hundred
thousand dollars to be taller. Drown yourself now, don't die.
Just put your head down in the water until you

(02:01:03):
start choking it, then pull it up. Because I don't
want command you. Greg let me telling me I was
trying to get people to kill themselves. That would be
me go play in traffic. But it's not that serious.
Risking some kind of surgery. It's different if you were
born with some injury or bone issue and you're trying

(02:01:27):
to get it fixed. But for you people that just
are five to seven and want to be six feet,
it's okay because trying to explain to her that you
bought four inches of height, she's gonna leave you anyway.

(02:01:49):
She's gonna think you crazy man. It's something I know.
I'm be tied up in the basement with a cow
and a bag of cheetos. It's just.

Speaker 9 (02:02:00):
Get a gone to the bathroom in a bucket. And
it's such a long process. Like you, I know, surgery
got it takes three years for do you walk normally?

Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
I thought it was fictional. I was watching a movie
called The Materialists, and these people were.

Speaker 7 (02:02:14):
Buying sports jock. But people who buy would say, you
sound like a tall dude. You ain't never experienced life
as a short person. You don't know what it's like.
It's like ball people. I always wonder like was it
worth all that? But I ain't never struggle to have hair,
so I don't know what they feel like.

Speaker 1 (02:02:33):
I ain't struggling. These people know you can, Oh, they
can all go. I thought you first said buying hype.

Speaker 4 (02:02:43):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
And it's a violent operation too. It's a very violent operation.
You're like igal to see it should be. They don't
do it in this country.

Speaker 7 (02:02:54):
I don't believe you have to go out and some
of them bbl's is legal, sound like that have to
break your legs?

Speaker 1 (02:02:59):
Yeah, but you can steel rids in it. We hope
y'all have a good afternoon. From the sports talk show
Peace

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