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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, all right, welcome back, are Freaking the Geek.
So another podcast and we have a recurring person comes
back to the podcast. You haven't seen him for.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
A few years now, it's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah for who don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
He was the author of you can say, I but
I this is a really this is a really good manga.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It was this is this is.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
His my thumbed up version of the biggest thing that
he put out, like his volume that he's gonna put out.
I don't know when you're putting that out, but I
think it's soon, right he Oh, the last letter, see
the last letter.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm sorry how you been. First off, it doesn't feel
like it's been years. That's actually crazy. But now I
just right when I first spoke to you, guys, I
was still in college, which feels like a whole lifetime
winning in that time. I got married, yeah, moved, yeah,
(01:09):
moved to Chicago. Got two cats, a dog. I got
three cats. Cats are awesome. I wasn't a cat person, Marcus.
If you don't have a cat, it's about time.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Girl. She got a cat. So it's my cat. Special
A little special child. She's a she's a little kid.
He's real hyper right now but.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Low key the best arrow and they're like still nipping
at your kneels and being playful because matured up and
every now and then I'm like, bro, just bite me dog,
It's okay. Yeah, life and then of course the new
and reformed man that is so clean.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I like how you changed because you changed the art
style of the foot right, yeah yeah different.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I don't have to copy one of those, like you
gave me the PDF file, but I really need the.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
RT copy of that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's dropping soon soon, okay, to that drop day? So
people looking forward for sure, how the process been for
like more or less changing the style and definitely the
volume of your wrong Like how was the profeta Because
I think you said you have you changed editor or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think so I changed artists and I kept the
same editor shout out or just Nate as you've known,
and we changed the artists just because we like the
old style. But there's just something a little bit generic,
just a little bit like almost two anime, and we
(02:49):
wanted something to move a little bit manga but also
comic book influenced that, yeah, a little bit of like
different that way when you're reading it. It's not necessarily
like better than your average manga per se, though I
will say.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
We worked hard, but like.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You notice the difference and it stands out. So we
went a different direction with the artists, and I think
we chose and then we just expanded on the story
we already have. I think manga people are collectors. I'm
looking at a bookshelf right now with a bunch of
manga that I've probably spent at this point, probably more
than a thousand dollars on, and it's just people love
(03:38):
something that's like tactile and like heavy in their hands.
Love it, they can read it, go back to it.
The fifty pages was nice, but we just felt like, Okay,
we need something that people want are going to want
to purchase. Because we were selling the fifties and I
want to say five dollars, four dollars fifty something crazy
like that. People already manga people are ready to spend
(04:02):
like ten twelve dollars as long as you're giving one
hundred and something pages worth of manga to read. And
so we shifted that way, and yeah, just expanded on
the fifty pages we already had.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And here we are, man that's dope. I definitely thought
of like about comic books because I was like, when
I was reading it, I was like, hold on, something
is different, And then I looked at it real good,
I said. But like you said, it worked to your
strength because especially with what you're doing, the action part
of it, like you can see more of the action
(04:37):
and the way the movement and stuff is that more
because with comic books they tell a lot of the
story through through that, like action and the way they
draw the characters and stuff. So it definitely was a
good decision because I was like, man, okay, I was.
I was like, I felt like I was doing like
this the whole time, moving with the action. But I
love it. Man, that was a smart choice.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
No, I'm glad you said that because I was part
of the reason we did that, because we felt like futsal,
the sport of indoor soccer, is just like a comic
book action scene.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's very fast.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Manga's got a lot of slow moments and a lot
of yeah, we've got three seconds to win the game. Man,
this guy's not really how footsal works. That might work
for the regular soccer manga, where soccer is a bit
more expansive, but kind of like you said, like comic
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books bang, not a lot of looking around and figuring
stuff out. And we wanted that because it matches the
way the sport works. So I'm glad you caught that.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Oh yeah, man, look I read my comic books. I've
just matter of fact, I just got done with the
whole like absolute run for DC, and then the other
day I just read the Newest Batman that just dropped
the number one for that and that's why I was like,
when I've seen that, I was like, yo, because in
that Batman, it's like constant movement. That man is jumping
(06:00):
out buildings and jumping out his car and fighting. Sounds like, yeah,
it's a munga, but it's definitely drawing in a comic book,
like the idea of a comic book, which is something
that's probably something I had never really seen because, like
you said, with Mangas, it's very like slow paced, a
lot of close up, a big wide shot of everybody,
and you know that's talk for what they're just doing.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Like this man shout out absolute Batman too. Yeah, an
amazing rine.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Like I haven't physically checked it out, but I've been
keeping up with the designs and with somewhat of the stories,
and it's fire issue five. I'm not gonna say nothing.
Top top five Batman right now?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, definitely. I just got done with the first that first,
those first six issues, so yeah, I got to catch
up because it's getting it's getting real juicy right now.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But what I liked about your long it's like the
humor and like the fourth ball break for hilarious, like
what he was.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I don't know if I want.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
To foil too much for people they're gonna read if
humor when he was trying to talk to he's trying
to fit game, that was so fun. Yeah, Like I
can't follow that hard.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
No, that's it's crazy because when I first the earliest
which like hopefully it becomes big enough to where I
can release like a true director's cut, but the earliest
versions of I Foot have Jordan a kind of being
like a dead Pool inspired like constantly breaking the fourth
wall all the time, or he's like aware its manga
(07:37):
and the other characters aren't, and he will say something
every now and then that like clues us in that
Hey he's different. But we scraped that because you got
to be skillful to write Deadpool.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I'm not there yet. Got to have different personality.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
But also I like the manga elements.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I guess you would say have like the power level
because when that, like when the guy like look on
the field and like the whole like shadow thing came
behind them, like it was like a monster that I
thought that, I was like, oh, this is sports manga whatever.
That reminds me of like I Shield, like I love
and it reminds me of like that, like they have
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a like power move that no one else can see.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
But like you tell like it's like a cool thing. Yes.
First off, I love that you said no one else
can see because that's something I've been trying to get
into people's heads for the longest with I Foot is
that it's conceptual. It's the feeling that player is giving
the other players like he's a monster. You're not turning
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into one. It's just like the vibe of it all
and everybody's all they have powers, and I'm like, no,
this is a dragon ball footsal.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
It justn't even coming like from a sports world because
I played basketball. Like when you on the court and
you see somebody getting his own it's like seeing a
monster because they get like bloodshot red and they locked in.
They ain't talking to nobody. It's almost like what people
you say with COVID, it's like you saw an aura
like that black Mam. But these like the nicknames, that's
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almost like their powers because they literally lock in and
become like a beast. We got, that's all I got,
terms like beasts mode is football with Marshall Lint. These
people turn into something else. So like you said, it's
not a power, it's just it's something that you don't see,
but they like. But you know a lot there and
I think, like them said, you really depicted that, like
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really good, and that's what I'm tough night there. Man,
you got to give yourself a pat on the back.
You did some stuff that a lot of people can't do,
just within writing from the writing aspect. So as a
fellow writer, I gotta tip my hat to you on
that one.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And I think it makes it more accessible. I think
it makes accessible because if you are coming from a
shown in background, or like you said, if honestly, if
you just played sports or watch sports, you even get it.
But if you're just coming from shoon in and you're
seeing someone do that. It's exciting to you because mentally
you're like, oh, that is like a power up, and like,
(10:16):
I'm just noting that. And in this version, we introduced
like player types. We have like market types of what
types of players end up on a footsal court, just
so that we can make sure everyone feels included without
having to know futsal at a high level.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
There is a niche sports and if I'm trying to
explain to you what I'll a pivot is, I might
as well write a manual in monga and anime that
will always there'll be time for that and an extra
volume I can explain more into how the sport really works.
But in the first volume, I'm not about to like
shove information down your throat. I'm gonna make it simple.
(10:57):
Player archetypes. Here's the feeling, not powers, that these players
give off while they're playing. And I'm glad you guys
really appreciate that because we really we made that a
really big choice for this version of the manga.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah yeah, but no, I was just saying I was
gonna say, like, on your point of you either have
to like over explain it or with those like big
boxes on the side. Yeah, where it's just like blocking
up the page and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I get it now. It kills the immersive experience of
reading a manga or comic book. There's a comic book
I love that does this, The Powers of X with
Jonathan Hickman. I don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I haven't read it yet, but I think I was saying.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
That he has whole pages of like world building information,
and Jonathan is skillful enough to get away with it.
He's you know what. But at the same time, like
the old moments where you're reading it and once you
get that information overload, you're like taken out of the
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story and you're like, now I have to like strain
my eyes read all of this information. And I truly
just think I don't think indoor soccer is like that.
Indoor soccer, compared to regular soccer, is easier to understand.
It's smaller, it's more compact, it's five y five, so
the game doesn't need that much explaining, and I think
the manga we wanted the manga to reflect that as well,
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like people shouldn't be reading this and then having to
feel like there's three pages of okay, so when this
guy meets here. This is what this position has traditionally been.
The sports started in Uruguay, and you're like, oh my gosh,
this is we keep going now.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Like you said, though, that's why I like in future
volumes you have the room for that. And that's what's
cool about storytelling in the hole because you can always
start at the middle, the end and go back to
the beginning. Everybody thinks, oh, we got to start with
the origins, you know, we want to know what happened.
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But sometimes you just get thrown in there. It's like, ooh,
where did this come from? How did it happen? Then
let's just say you go. You get another issue and
it's just like the Origin story where it's like they
meet a og and he's just, yeah, so this is
what we started. It was three you know what I'm saying.
But that's but like you said, to your point, you
give yourself that space to do something like that instead
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of just like you said, shoving it all in and
getting everybody to read a manual basically and it's all
man So now I got to learn about and knowing
soccer and read. I think you balanced that out very
well because, like you said, when you're talking about the comic,
you can get a little overload and be like, it's
just like film and film they say show. Don't get that,
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no film, but they're just like telling you everything instead
of like just showing it. And he's like, okay, it's pretty.
But he don't have to tell me every single thing.
So definitely I can't understand that all the way.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And naturally I assumed that if you did get into
I Foot and you're interested in it, you invested in
the characters, you enjoyed volume one, the part of you
is gonna go let me google or YouTube indoor.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Soccer, because that's how I am. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Exactly, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Like, okay, let's see what this is about.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Or if I'm reading something and a part of history
I didn't know about, I was like, oh, let me
go back and look at what happened there? Why did
they get this pull this story from this time period?
So you definitely this is a very good writer right here.
How to play the my game? That's what you got
to play the game? Man.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I got a good team of people I work with.
My editor Nate is amazing. The artists we worked with
not too amazing. Because we got a new artist for
volume two, but the style will stay similar. But he
wasn't very good artists. He did did a great job,
and we've made something good here, something.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
To be probably, yeah, definitely when it comes to let's say,
your next volume, like how is your timeline, Like when
it comes to how before you release or as you
release this one in the next one, they're gonna be
like a big time between above them or are you
trying to like maximize on like the the.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Height behind your first volume. Oh, that is tough. So
I have an answer, and then I have a non answer.
So as of right now, we are I want to say,
seventy pages deep into volume two, and it's gonna be
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about the same length. It's gonna be like one hundred
and sixty to one hundred and seventy pages. What's interesting
is we're at like the point where we sold one thousand,
but they're all digital, and we've started to learn it
the world where everybody's on the internet, like having physical
presence now seems to be more legitimate than digital, if
(16:07):
that makes sense. I don't know if any of you
all watched Severance, but getting love Severance, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Look I literally just added it to my list the
other day, so I'm gonna take the weekend to watch it.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
It's perfect. And we noticed when they were marketing it
they did pop up in Times Square, and at first
I clicked. I was like, oh yeah, because everybody is
on the internet. Now, everybody can get on the internet
and sell anything. But when you got physical presence, people go, oh,
that guy serious his idea, physical stature or whatever. So
(16:49):
a part of us is we got to see how
the physicals do furse once we get the physicals out,
and I think that will create more of a viral
conversation for people, because it's easier to make content when
it's like, hey, look you just got this manga unboxing
video whatever, easier to go on that track when you've
(17:10):
got physicals. So we want to see the hype of
the physicals first and then see from there it's okay,
people got really hyped for the physicals. Do we piggyback
off the hype of Volume one if they're buying the
physicals a lot, or do we just like release on
our own time period or whatever. So it's really going
(17:31):
to be a touch and go game as far as
like Volume two release cycles of concerned, but we're we're
actively working on Volume two. Physicals I can tell you
right now will drop on September twenty eighth. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and where I guess I'm not really supposed to tell you,
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but I'll tell you anyways, because I don't think you
guys know anybody who works in the Chicago Park District.
Hope out there. But there's a futsal tournament happening in
Chicago that we're going to drop the manga at, and
the winner of the tournament it gets to go to
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Soldier Field when the Chicago Fire play the Toronto FC
and they'll get honored at halftime. So we're going to
drop at the tournament and then try and see the one.
I'm trying to win the tournament because I'm playing in
the tournament, so you believe if I win, I'm going
to have half field and just raising this straight of
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getting an ad out of it. But that's pretty much
the plan, and from there we'll really just gauge how
things move. Wow, Like I was not.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Half court. That's amazing, dude. I'm glad you are.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Like that. Hey, all in due time, it's been a
long time, like it has.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You can move it man and done. I had a question,
you put you put that dog? I forget what it's
called the dog story at the end of the book,
are you gonna one shot continuation that one?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I wrote that with my wife, look back on it.
The co writer is Mariah Bonda and wrote with her
and she we wanted to be a continuous thing every volume.
So like every volume, if you read again, there's a
point when Jode says, I'll go check out the next
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episode of Big Homies, Big Day, which is the story,
and so it shows up at the end, and every
volume he will have a episode of Big Homies, Big
Day that he reads. And it's just like a little
like fun world building because now you're getting into the world.
He has something that entertains him. There's something in the
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world that he interacts with. And I think it's like
cool because readers also get to read it as well,
and it's just like a fun, silly way to get
into the world of I ex foot and I think
it's a pretty funny Our dog is funny. Her name
is but her nickname is Homie short for Big Homie. Yeah,
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so we're gonna keep, hopefully my plan right now, is
to have a different artist every time for Big Homies
Big Day hopefully, Yeah, like a Chicago local every every time,
just a new artist can inject the new style of
it and it never looks the same at all, and
then maybe over time Big Homies Big Day also becomes
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its own thing and can have its Yeah, very interesting
way of doing like world building.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I don't think anybody really does world building in that
kind of way where it's like we're reading something that
they have in their will and we're connecting us through
the story and outside of the story.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
The connection between the two faces, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I mean, it does remind me of something though, Ricky
Morty does that when they watched the different channels. Yeah,
the Universal, the Universal. Yeah, they do that. And you
get that because you know how most TV toolds like
they don't watch something, but either you don't see it
or you hear it, and they just show up for
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the second. The fact that we actually can sit and
watch it with them, it'll be a whole episode where
they just watch the TV the whole time. So that's
what came to mind when I saw that, and I
just I thought it was hilarious because I had a
dog and dogs are very aggressive when they play. I
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had a few bruises and my dogs with me, so
the big dogs. But that story all the way.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, no, it's a story within a story.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You like the intergalactic cable, Yeah, you will think about that.
I also think.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
About Clank, Yeah, with the guy with the huge chin
and how he's like the actor in the world where
it's like.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Uh with an he like a faith.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Something like that they got, like the news caster, like
play by playing everything sometimes.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, I remember that man rashing Clank.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
That's the game? What man, the golden age of gaming?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
What when video games was not easy to beat? You
couldn't beat in the late hours?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Video games anymore, not at all? Way too expensive now.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Man, man, maybe mad Man, it's eight dollars per I
was like, no way, Brook.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That's also how you know that it's been a minute
because like we all are older now and have all responsibility.
I can't just buy video games anymore. And plus that's
too expensive, and I got other stuff I have to
take care.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Like a new game drops, and now I'm just like
I've succumbed to just being the person who watches YouTube
videos about it and oh wait, same sale if even
because exactly even when like thirty off and it's still
fifty dollars and you're like, oh, wait, as I say
for fighting in for the Moral Kombat, you wait for
(23:45):
that what they call all the DLCs and everything the
collections altogether. Yeah, I'm not gonna get your dls.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
They're not gonna get the game and then get DLC
every like what a couple of months they drop a character.
I'll wait for you to give me the collection of edition.
I pay one flat rate and I got everything I want.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
You think about video games right now is because is
there any other industry that gives you something half baked
and then makes you pay. Imagine if I gave you
and was like, here is like the first ten pages,
pay full price for it, and then keep paying for
more pages.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
What that is? Wow? It's the wildest concept. And I'm
like when video games try to start hustling us. There
used to be a thing where we had fun and
we were happy to break open the box. Now I
feel like I'm getting hustled. Man, if you want to
unlock this special card, not only do you have to
have Wi Fi to play the online but at the
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same time, if you really want to unlock it fast
pay for these trans Michael transaction.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, or like they give you half a game, but
half a game outside half a game and it's a
glitchy game. It can they'll be giving me like cause
I play a lot of obviously Pokemon and most of the
games have come out. They come out buggy and methy,
glitch it into the floor and stuff. They you pay
full price for them, but they used to be like
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at least affordable. Now like going, I'm sure that new
Pokemon game will be like eighty bucks after I don't
know if not.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
If I have to twitch too, would be eighty bucks.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Okay, correct the good Another thing they've gone in a
direction nobody wants them to go.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Hey, I play PlayStation two games, and I'm like, just
make this. We don't need an eight hour game where
I can see the like sweat every single coming down there.
Just make a fun game. I don't care if it
looks like it's from two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I don't need the hyper realistic is that I knew? Okay,
I do want to ask you this, because you know
you're doing right all that stuff. I have to ask
you a question that just as a fan and all
of anime masas comics. If you had a choice to
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do like a fan fiction, write a fan fiction masa,
but it was just like a one off, and it
could it's your version, like what you know, I used
to make those stories as a kid. What if I
did dragon ball Z? It would be like this. If
you had the choice to just do, like what a
one off fan fiction maza to write, what would you choose?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Oh as basic because you just brought it up, but
as basic as it sounds, it's dragon ball Z because
I don't think people. I don't think people clock how
underutilized that ip is. And it's the only one where
I wish manga had. What comics has. Different writers can
come in and do they all take and spin on it,
(26:50):
because I think everything the Sayings did, like Conquering Planets
Vegeta's own like low key explored but very interesting backstory
done one after write him just like everything between like
him finding Goku and planeting Vegeta and him and his
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dad conquering planets. I would love to know about them
working for Lisa, how that came about different enemies he
was experiencing him growing as like a warrior him having
a weird relationship with Freezer where he's like a lackey
the Freezer as right as a prince. These are things
that I'm like, Bro, if you gave me one chance,
(27:37):
I would write the hell out of this and I
think I could no Ki kill it.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
That's what I'll be taking, Bro. I'll like, hey, if
I got the chance, just clapping on the table to
tell me, I can just go him like the pin
you can just see fire coming out of my pins.
Because I'm thinking, I always tell Dmitri if I had
a chance, that would be one I would do. And
I would have a version where like in the Sale games,
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like Goku just stays dead and go h go Hunt
full potential. But at the same time, Gohan is like
this humble powerful warrior because he still keeps like his
studious side, but like he's very powerful, so he's more
humble and like he's the protective of everything. And I
even put to what like Krillin took master roaches over
(28:29):
his like you know the island, and he's yeah, like
he's the teacher now he trained trumps and go I
would love to see something like you're saying, like these
other versions of the characters of the stories, like we
get the right differ once because it's like you said,
it's almost like it's just this one story and from
beginning to end it's like this and there's nothing outside
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of that.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, dragon Ball keeps it's not even a mistake per se,
but it just always moves so linear, like yeah, tunnel vision.
We just moved forward with story. But it's like how
we go backwards and sideways. Let's pick a little backstory.
Let's do Krilling taking over coming Island and having his
own students.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And I'm telling you they and they used to do
it because remember like when Blockbusters was the thing, we
had the one off stories like the History of Trump. Yeah,
the browly movies, Like we had all those different cooler
we had all these different like one off movies. And
then it's like now they's like, oh no, all of
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that stuff doesn't matter. It doesn't count anymore. It's just
one story. And like you said, that's.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Why I'm glad Toriama rest in peace. First off, I
realized I was crazy. Yeah, he's a genius. If you've
read the dragon Ball Z and dragon Ball manga.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Man, some of the best, that's where the story is
in the Mansas. Yeah, it's way better than the anime.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Way better. And I credited him so much, and I'm
glad he doesn't stick to Cannon because I think the
only reason Dragon Ball is so like tunnel visioned and
so linear is because that's where the money at the
end of the day. But Dory Young has always just
been like, yo, I want to write Dragon Ball hero.
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I don't give a crap. He doesn't have right.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Because if you think about it, like the history of Trump,
like through everything off this huh, but Trumps is here,
but then it's okay, that's what they do in Commons book.
Okay exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Time travel doesn't necessarily make the most sense of Dragon movie.
And I don't really care because I got to see
the one thing I love about Super because Super it's
not my favorite, but when seeing Trumps go back and
handling all the big threats that we were not biker
fet and nothing vivity and I think by Bobby Boo
and all that stuff like that, he handled it or
he got before it got to the boots stuff and
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stuff like that. He went back and handled Android. That
was something I really wanted to see. Yeah, him just
going out and just being the loan staying out there,
just handling everything.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
You know, Really, its whole own story. Really, I would
love to see future Trunks have his own story just
and I mean, if we know super it gets pretty.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Dark, it gets pretty dark real quick. I was like, geez,
all right, cool, but did you check out Dimon his
last fital.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
No, I have not checked out Dimond. I feel bad
because like it from all the clips I've seen, because
it's unavoidable. It was the last thing he had his
involvement in. I was gonna see spoilers and stuff, so
I know, like the key points, and it looks like
it's like Toriyama's like final, like love letters. Everything the
fans have ever complained about to a degree, Still very
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much him, Still very well done, and he's whenever he
was involved with the dragon Ball project, it wasn't bad.
More times than not. He's actually really good. And Diamond
looks like it's sad. But man, the work in life
just be crushing me. The only anime I've been watching
is two b hero X and One Piece.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Oh hey, one Piece again? Are you caught up on
One Piece? Before I start talking?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
No, no, okay, Lobby Oh that's my favorite. Any lobby
is one of my favorite arc so much just because
I'm just a big guy.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
On five stuff. So that's all that arc is. I
haven't done anything else. Yeh, C nine, Who's you mean
from CPS in general?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
In general? You asked me the hardest questions because I
definitely loopy.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
But I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I'm gonna try to say something. I'm gonna try to
say someone not Luy. That's hard for me, but let
me think. Shoot, see that is hard. I want to
say Tabo. I like Tabo a lot. I do, even
though he's People say, oh, you don't.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I forgot. I didn't sail anything. You don't know who
I need to tell.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I'm sorry I didn't say I didn't you know, I
didn't say anything. I didn't say anything more than that
because I would say loopy for the sake of I
can't say any characters. Okay, thanks.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
For you.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Don't worry about it. You're not spoiled.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Okay, that sounds on that subject, because that was gonna
be like before. I don't know where you had to leave,
but I was just gonna be like, you know what
you're reading right now? What you want but even if
it's just right, like you said, Steffens, like what did
like when you do get that downtime, like once you've
been reading recently watching.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
From the longest I've been watching, Oh that's my stuff. Man,
anime is great. Oh my, it's beautiful. I think it's
it might be the best sports anime all you've seen.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I showed twenty one, right, I have not that one out, yeah,
text that one now that one goes crazy. It's like
the more than like your style where you have that presence.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
They have that all down.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
It has that, it has that style of presence and
people just having that aura of seeing things like oh man,
he's about to go do and they have a way
of making like a monster or something like that go
through that only they only we can really see. But
like it's has its presence just like your your manga does.
So I think you might just see it like might
happen for some references.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
But I would say I would say.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Don't watch the English because the English DEVI is not
the greatest, but so do Stub or the manga.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
But it it's like it's up there with I love
both of them. Okay, that's hype praise.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It was my way into sports manger like it was
my way in Like before that, I was just I
couldn't really get into it. And then I started watching
that because I liked a little bit of football, and
I was like, man, it's tough.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
That's the main character.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Okay, everybody else is They all just big players. I'm
not gonna say nothing else, but everybody is just that guy.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Okay. I just got something to add to this because
I love EPO. I think it's a gold standard. It
just doesn't have the popularity. But it's also like time.
If it came out now, it would go crazy. But
EPO one Piece those are my like okay, ran out
of like a recent thing to watch. Let me just
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watch these two and watching and then two B hero
X has just been If y'all haven't tapped into two
B hero X, you have to. This might be anime
of the year.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I've heard it wrapped up this week, didn't it for
the last episode. I get notifications of different things, but
I was like, I see it's popular. I don't really
know if it was like my thing, but they're like
culture like my hero or they like because I know
it's hero like my Hero.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Or it like it's the world building is similar to
My Hero. It almost has a quirk system, but their
quirk system is built on like trust from like the public,
rather than genomes or whatever is going on in My Hero,
where they just I guess get it from their family.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
But it's a very interesting concept because it has like
parallels to like basically social media, how anybody can become
famous nowadays and what that means for like popularity and fame.
Only in this world, you're a hero and it's The
animation is just crazy Spider Verse levels stuff. Okay, you
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put a little extra prop on it.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
What have you guys been watching? Keeping up? You want
to go first, and you want me to.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Person, Man, I've been all over the place some live action.
Just I've been rewatching a lot of stuff. I just
started rewatching the first GM Pokemon Indigo Indigo. I think
it's get what the original? Yeah, I think it's. I
think it's because I've been checking it out to We've
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both been like rewatching. Yeah, I've been watching strangely, been
like flatting around watching like different seasons of power Ranges.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Okay, Yeah, by the way, if you want to get
on your power face to me, they got.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, definitely. So I've been watching a lot of that
new stuff. I know, me and Demetrice we did aw.
I guess as of Wakonda was good. Tough watch that.
I got a lot of new shows. I gotta finish
watching the one that Seth Brogan just wont all the
Emmys for. I gotta finish that. Yeah, I saw on
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Severn what else, movies here and there. I've been I
will say this, when I write, I tend to watch
stuff to help with my writer. So right now I'm
working on like this like story of a like awkward
black girl in the eighties. So I've been watching little
videos and stuff. I'm just all I said, I'm all
over the place. I've been reading, Like I said, I
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read all the absolute the first volumes of all those stories.
I've been in my reading and like my comic bang real,
real hard right now. So that's what I've been doing.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I mean, I've been watching one Piece of course. I've
caught up on the anime and the Manger because I
can't wait. I'm impatient, so I'm caught up on them.
I think it's back. I haven't read this week's chapter.
But that's normal because I need to let them built
up a little booke up a little bit for reading
because they'll be good every chapter. Now like it's close
to the end, so it's every chapter it's been like heat.
(39:07):
So it's hard to put it down. But I watched Donad.
I'm watching that currently season two. Pretty hype, Kyd you
never ate, It's amazing. I love that show, Kyle, you
never rated amazing. Started watching Game of Thrones and this
is the first watch. I've never watched Game of Thrones
in my life, and so I've been watching my partner.
So it's surprisingly it was a slow bird. It was
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very slow burn, but I.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Could get it.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
When it picked up. I'm not gonna say that, but
it picked up with the gore.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
I was like, you know what, Okay, I'm looking a
little bit because it was good.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
If you could do one piece, you can do Game
of Thrones. Oh fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I think people gives one piece like like a bad
rapping because they're like, oh, the pacing. I'm like, dude,
I was locked in from episode one. Bro, it wasn't
hard for me. I thought I saw you hit that
first thing with that gum gum. I was like, all right,
because I'm going on the candent, so sorry. But I
wasn't really in the rubber powers until that thing. Because
I watched him, I saw a fantastic for it. I
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was bothering into mister fantastic. He just never grabbed me.
And then I thought Lukey's utilized it the way he did,
and I was like, all right, that's what.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
You need to be doing.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, And maybe I'm just not his verse in the
comics to know his like stats, but like when I
see him anything like live action or animated, he just
don't be having it. I'm like, but you ain't got
the hands at all. But also I've been replaying Pokemon.
As I said, I got my three d s over there.
I'm playing a little bit of y I'm playing a
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little Sun right now, replaying him and getting ready for
a new game to drop next month. So I'm getting
private and I'm watching new Pokemon as well. Like I'm
I just got past the gang Guard episode where he
where the Hunter and gangar like playing pranks on everybody,
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and he's like literally and they literally killed Ashton Piga.
You take him out of his body. Early Pokemon is
creepy Man episode with Aca with cadaver where she puts
him in am and a doll body and stuff like that,
and he's playing with him.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Like I'm like, I remember that. It was a time
you have to be there.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
So you know, I'm liking my rewatch, but I'm realizing,
like man as a kid, I was bosed. But you
haven't watched any of the thing. I recommended watch them.
They're great. Definitely, yeah, definitely get on your one. See
the Tooth coming out next No, next year, the next year,
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and One Piece that next year. I think, yeah, the
next one. Yeah, you know, if you're not in that,
check it out.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Uh. How do y'all feel about Netflix live action anime shows?
Is they like because that's a part of me that's
like some of these shows weren't meant to be live.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, some of them, but for some reason, one Piece
worked really good, but everything else it was like, yeah,
like the one Netflix.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
One, I didn't even make any noise, Like I didn't
hear anybody ever.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Give me the reactor to people that are post that
be talking about it, I think they have a week
and then they were like, onto the next thing. Man,
it's getting us even too, which is I guess okay.
But my whole thing about live actions, I wasn't a
fan of live action, so one piece in one piece,
I'm biased, so like I was gonna watch it, and
then I was like, you know what, it works, so
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for some reason this is working even though they like
the story.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
It was like I think that's what filled my approval
for it. It was like I was like, when I thought
it was on it, I was like, all right, I'm
gonna check it out. But I didn't like the Cowboy
Bebop one. I just want to messing with it. I
think worked better at a animated property.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
It's crazy because you think Cowboy Bebops grounded, this should
work because the anime is very sure so to speak,
almost like a TV show, and then the man live.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Action, like I was like, man, I think it was
like I think one of the things like that I
heard from a lot of people really talk who really
like grained in it. They said like they changed too
much of the story and changed too much of the
aspects of the characters and stuff like that that were
like threw him out like I think they like changed
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backstory or something like that. I was like, Okay, don't
change so much of a story that where it's like
not recognizable because the thing that you wanted to get
into because you make a live action for the purpose
of like the same reason you make an anime to
get people to read the manga or the anime or
the anime. And if they're so detached from it that
they don't even recognize the actual property you're swooping off
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or you're making something off of, then you can tell.
And I think that's where a lot of Netflix live
actions fall because they like they try to do.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Their like.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Bleach.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
I hated that live action for Bleach. I am a
Bleach like fanatic. There is a Bleach.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
The death note one, the death not one made me.
I shut that off.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I was like, okay, I had I saw ten minutes
and I was like, okay, this got to be shut off.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I'm in this whole conversation. The one thing I will
say that would that would be topped as the worst
live action anime is Dragon Ball.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I don't think anything will ever tap that.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
But it served its purpose because Tom saw that and
was like I got a lock back in you I
know one that's the content the original Avatar spot.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
The original Avatar is a contender for that spot. It
is like that Evolution. It didn't try hard, but at
least were.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
They both gave me a headache either way, because it
was like with dragon Ball, they took everything that made
dragon Ball dragon Ball and just threw it out and say, yeah,
we're gonna do this and not that. And same with Avatar.
We're going to keep the same idea in world, but
we're just gonna completely go from the diversity of this world.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
They're gonna have three people doing one rock move. Okay,
Well I.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Was like, yeah, yeah, just throw that exactly exactly man.
Yeah man. So for the viewers out there, y'all want
to bring on that and let us know, put it
in a comment. All these fabulous ideas and shows definitely separate.
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I think that should be on everybody's list right now,
especially with the brothers who just want him in me.
I think that I'm room for everybody, but I gotta
go by the words of the great one.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Oh yeah, let's yeah. So where can everybody get your book?
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Your volume?
Speaker 1 (46:46):
But like, where is the link or the place that
you're going to have these physical copies that you keep
showing me right now.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
So if you I have a foot tall channel footsall
and that's where I mostly my like ix foot Instagram
pages is dang, you're dead. I never post on it anymore.
But I have a foot tall channel ix foot sal
and over there linked in bio you can find like
a what is it called, I have a link tree
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and you can get it on gum Road and Kofi.
That's where it's going to be available and then we're gonna, yeah,
it's probably gonna be where it's at. I don't know
if there's anywhere else we need to like expand it on,
and probably we'll put it on TikTok shop. There's also
a TikTok account.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
The mission has always been to grow the sport of
indoor soccer futsal, and the manga is basically the first
step in doing that and getting the sport mainstream. So
that's a project of passion. I just love the sport
of indoor soccer. I love the sport of footsal. I
think more people should play it. I think it's a
sport that a lot of people in this country would love,
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especially compared to soccer. I think into soccer really has
a future in America. So I ex foot is available
at I X foot sal And yeah that's a link tree.
Hit that link tree and.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
I've heard it him first. Now, indoor soccer takes off
in America, y'all better come back to this video and
get my boy's credit.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
The only reason I said that so that when the
sport takes off, how end up in a documentary somewhere.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Right here.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Now. But yeah, I'm just excited. I love this story.
I love the sport that it's about. I love what
we've created. Man. I try and be humble about it,
I really do. Butopped off for this new volume.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Like I told you, you got to get yourself a
big pat on the bat man. It's all in your face. Man,
you're going grinned. And that's a good thing because you
feel like you got some good out all the hard work,
the years and stuff, the moving and married, all of
that stuff and all coming together. Now that's a great
thing to be proud of. Man. Sometimes you got to
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boast about something a little bit. That's what you got us, Yeah,
that's what you got us, because then we can brag for.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
You appreciate it. I appreciate being here.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Man.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Man, y'all had some heavy hitter guess because I remember
when I found y'all you've done an interview with was
reading it was the whole storyline Mike deal with. Oh yeah,
oh my gosh, what hope did he do? I know
he was doing a hole because I was reading it
at the time and I was like, oh, this is
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so cool that y'all got him, And y'all have had
some heavy hitters. So like anybody who's like watching this
listening to it, however you're consuming this, like y'all aren't
small either, Like y'all have done some pretty dope we
definitely it means a lot to one be back here
years later and still be seen as a guest who's
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worth bringing on considering who you guys have had before.
And yeah, like I'm putting on. It's a platform for
my story. And like indoor soccer, like I keep telling people,
this is why I made it a manga, because indoor
soccer is not going to be spoken about in places
like this all the time because.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Why would it be? Why would it be?
Speaker 3 (50:31):
And so yeah, just bringing the sport to places like
this where you guys are respected in the field and
you're talking to people who are like mad respected is
Immortal Hulk, you work on Immortal hok No old man
hook oh man, old Man. Yes, sorry that was bothering
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me the whole time, yapping because I was like, give
yourself more time. It is, but for really it really
does mean a lot. I really appreciate this. I haven't
had a lot of interviews on this. We've gotten a
thousand copies sold. I'll reach out to people. I'll send
them the Manka, which I think is as I've already said,
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it's very good. A lot of people don't hit back
or they'll be like, oh, interview you like in some time,
And like, man, I know guys who will interview in
comic book legends.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
They're making time for me.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
So I really appreciate it. Thank you, Thank you so much.
We're happy to have you back. Man, Like it's been
a while, that's to catch up.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, Man, you can always come back and we can
do emboss, just talk anime. If we're reviewing something you see,
you can just come back and just just kick it
with us. Man. You always you family now, man, you
know how to family you family now, man, I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
It, your family appreciate much love man the major.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Do you know what time it is today? We have
we do have a special gift, if special gifts at
this time, we do a thing called they changed this
promotion now and it's gonna be with a little flavor
because we got some promotion now to give y'all from
our gifts. Also, so Demetris tell the readers where they
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can find us and our special gifts.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
They can find us on obviously YouTube on the right
side of our future videos. Would have commented down below. Really,
have you checked out have you checked out some of
his books? Have you been to some of the people
have seen his book and have read his book and
enjoyed his book. Are you in the indoor soccer? There's
people out there and he's bringing these people together, so
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they listen to the conference down below and let us know
your love of indoor soccer. Also, what did you think
our picked about our Maga and schel little tangent there
It was crazy and recommend some stuff for us to
watch and to read and consume. Did you like the
Absolute runner? Don't swirl anything down there because we all
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have not hit us up on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Never X.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
We don't mess with that ex and is like this,
We have read it. We have a discord if you want.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
If you love those things, hit us in discords at
least in the bios. But you can find him on
Instagram at third World Manger, I X and I We'll
leave all that in the kind of description down below.
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And do you have anything else to adds to that?
Marcus Mark Mark Oh.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Man, I think he took us out well and we
just want to say thank you. Special gifts and truth
as always, go ahead and lead us out of him. Man.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
I've been your host to each and this is.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
My co host Marcus, and this is our guest.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Oh, I'm see the last letter to wear out thet
we are out, Preemah