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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to this pay Around Table podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm your host.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
To me, this is my co host got It Time,
and today we are going to be reviewing the great,
amazing Thunderbolt Asterisk.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
With that being said, this is a spoiler review.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
So if you haven't seen the movie, if you're a disclaimer,
get up out of here, come back and walk like
the video, and come back later to hear our thoughts
on it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
But it's a spoiler review, so you've been warned.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
How did just to start it off? How do you
feel about that? Like New Avengers, I'm liking the team. Okay,
any team of Bucky on it, I'm pretty told.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Okay, in Red Guardian is a good you know, a
good added voters, I love you. Yes, Ghost is amazing.
I love ghosts. Walker is starting to he's starting to
grow me. But he still got from work with me personally.
I know there's a lot of Walker man out everything
he's recovered and now he's good and I'm just like
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anything about his boy teens.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
If mayby go, you're not there yet.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He's still kind of ways to go.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
You got he got the way he got a little.
He hadn't had his Bucky. He had earned his buck,
he earned his like heroic for comeback.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
No, he's he definitely.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
How you feeling about the title A New Avengers? How
do you feel?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
I like it because most of them were thrown into
this team. They wasn't really trying to be heroes, and like,
at least is better than either not being around.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Like not being alive or in jail. So I guess
I'll take it. It's like the job. It's not job
I was looking for, but hey, he pays the bills exactly.
I think it's cool.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I think it is an interesting team though, because it's
like it's three super soldiers really technically four because black
widows are technically like super soldiers those experiments done on them.
Four super soldiers and then a girl who unfortunately got
in a freak accident. But yeah, I love how they
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did her too, like how they like kind of show
what she could really do once she has control. I
think that was cool because she could have easily been
like a one off or character. They set up like
she was coming back and then she never did, so
I thought it was cool. Before we get too deep
into it, let's just have a brief moment of silence
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for task mask.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Because that was the shortest screen time character.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
And it's so funny because remember we both said, hey, bro,
she's probably not gonna be in the movie, and I
did not think it was gonna be like that early on.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I thought I was going to get like halfway through, have.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
A heroic fact if I proclaimed something given some kind
of like redeeming like now now, they were like, Nope,
get out of here, You're done?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Which is it for you?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Which I think there will obviously be another tap after.
They're gonna bring it up as different. For sure, they're
gonna bring in one almost probably almost immediately multiverseic this.
They're gonna pull what out of the bath faith And
now that we've interdimensional travel to that happened.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I guess just kind of walk through it a little
bit with Lena.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
She's doing the missions and all that, and she's kind
of having this in the monologue with herself, this battle
of what's he purpose? Yeah, especially after Natasha that kind
of LEXI ain't spoken a while.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
She's in this like weird place.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
She's been like doing like what we said, She's trying
to keep the pay the bills.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
This is like her job. And then we got got Valentine.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
They're trying to impeach her because I think she's like
with the director of the CIA or something like that,
thank you, yeah, yeah, and we kind of forever. She
was the director of the c i A. So she
got her whole thing with all her bs. But she does.
If you haven't watched When the Soldier Falcon Win a
Soldier Black, you miss what her part is and all
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of this.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But she's not a good person.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
She's an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
She can spend any any she can spend anything that happens.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
That whole what you gotta You gotta take your hand
out to her for that. Because the way she did
the New Adventure thing, I was like, that was clever.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
It's hell about.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
That, Like yo jail. She was like yeah, she was like,
so yeah, this is the New Aventure. I was like, oh,
I was like, you played it right. But like Atlanta said,
they own you because they did and they can expose you,
but they like, we just don't try this new.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Gig and see how it goes.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Right, go ahead, No, I was just gonna say the
tone of it, the way it's set, how it starts off,
it feels, honestly feel it felt like the old Marvel,
the jokes, all the jokes like hit the marks, and
it wasn't like an out of place. It wasn't like
being too funny. Like I said to you, it was
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like Winter Soldier and Guardians mixed together.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
That's what it felt like. And I was like, yes,
that's the right.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Amount, that's like the best amount of the well balanced
film for Marvel.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Because that's what they do.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
They do good and do action good, and then they
do the jokes and funny and the right but even
the emotional stuff like well written, shot very beautifully, a
lot of practic the cool almost it's almost like.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Do you like the practical building thing?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, actually jumped out of the building.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
And I've just been to say, very reminiscent of Christopher Nolan.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
This is almost like if Christopher.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Nolan directed a Marvel movie, because a lot of stuff
was like practical explosives, the.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Jumping off the building, stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
So I just really hope that Marvel is tapping back
into what made them the powerhouse they are or work
because when you fully got back yet they still got
to prove themselves, which they got to prove themself, but
they did they getting back on track.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
They definitely are, and I think I think Fantastic four
is gonna be another bangerything.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah yeah, after saying this, I agree, I agree because
I think I think they figured out again how our
teams work to have to write the dialogue with a
teen movie or setting up that whole thing with the
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balance of family coming together because this was this is
like a precursor to Fantastic Four.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
They all had.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
To come together in time and need in a dire
time of need, which we all know Fantastic four is
going to have to do. But the thing Fantastic flow.
They're legit like family, so they've already been together for
amount of time. They like I said, Marvea does really
good when it comes to stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So they do, They really do.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But I was thinking about the timeline because definitely the
post credit theme definitely made me understand the timelineup what
these movies take place, and I'm thinking Fantastic four take
place before this moment because of the way the end
credit thing. From my perspective from when the incredit thing happened,
it just seems like the events of Fantastic four.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Came before this because of how it ship came out
of nowhere, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
I definitely or simultaneously is happening at the same time,
because it's because it's a different world, it could be
happening at the same time, and because I'm pretty sure
that's what it was, like some months after they already
establisheds like the New Avengers, they got the little bootleg logo.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, he got a little all the brands on it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Like I know, I know how to get ahead of.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
So so I think I think it's the films are
happening at the same time, and what's gonna happen is
when we get Fantastic four as that's playing out, when
it gets to that moment, we're gonna see it like
happening that real time, like them coming in and then
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I think it's gonna cut back to them probably something
like that. It's gonna come to it's definitely fantastic for
it is definitely going to end in the mc U
like they're gonna be the mc So that's why I
saying I think it's happening at the same time. Period
simultaneous is just another world. So I think that's what
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it is. Hopefully they gave you clarity if he was looking.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
For Yeah, either one is possible, but I do that.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
See, I can definitely figures for sure as well, because
I just think I just didn't really consider the option
of like simultaneously, because I'm thinking this movie happened first,
and yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Mean that's what most people are probably thinking when it
goes Okay, so this happens after or after the Yeah,
I see.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What you're saying.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, or at least the post credit scene happened months after,
or I don't know, maybe both samultaneously. Maybe simon simultaneously
have to make more sense now that I think about
it to you, Frank. But even now that I'm like
trying to decide for the like that happened month after,
what name so simultaneously couldn't work better?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
You've convinced me. What did you think of Sentry the
villain or.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
The villain?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Sorry, I guess the boys said it to the villain?
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Oh, Robert Robert, Robert Robert. I like the fact how
it worked his way into him being the villain, because
even without him being like turning into the void, he
still had a kind of like villain like villain his
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tendencies when he was fighting them. But it was more
like a oh, I didn't like he started feeling itself
because he didn't woke up. He didn't see what he
can do. And he's like, oh, snap, he's on the ship.
I'm a guy orders from you. Yeah, he said, I'm
stronger everybody, so.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I'm all their vineards combine in them or whatever like
that billion tons or something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So I was like, I was like it from you.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I was like, oh, it's finna, I said, some ship
he's gonna pop up, Like I knew immediately it was
not gonna be pretty. But also at that I do
I just like how they set everything up in the movie,
Like even with Bob when he's introduced, it's like in
our minds, we know, okay, that's century, yeah, but it's
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the way they set it up is all that guy
can't turn in the century.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
He doesn't know he's not gonna hurt anybody. But then we.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Slowly started saying that, like you were saying to me
the kind of what's the word I want to use
the kind of unaware lie. Oh, I'm lying, But I
really didn't forget, like I might have forgot or I
don't know, but now it's coming back. So it's like
when that happens and immediately go, hey, y'all need to
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be on y'all told about this dude. It's something that
he ain't telling or he don't remember something that's not right.
And then of course when they found.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Out, so they did, and I what I liked that
everybody wasn't really noticing like he would say.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
He was like, oh yeah, I remember, and nobody called
it out on it.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
The fact that he first at the beginning thing, when
he first I remember anything, and then he just started
slowly remembering stuff, and nobody ever theaters paying watch out,
like you're thinking, hey, watch out, he's remembering more than
he said he remembered before. And then what got me
was when he showed up and I remember her name
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and now I can't remember it. You know what I'm
talking about. When he showed up in her her kill
room thing. I'm gonna tell you Natasha, not Valentine the
first time when he like appeared in it in the vault,
and then yeah, I remember forgetting it, I said the
name earlier, the new black it out Elena slipped my
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mind for a second. I'm tired, guys, tired, tired, really tired,
but we're doing it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Exactly when he.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Show when she he showed up in there, I was like, oh,
because he was like watching her. I was like no,
And then it was I like how they did it
with contact, like him happen to actually physically touch you,
hold you, grab your hand, and then you were sucked
in to his void at first, And that was like
how you like got to see Elena's backstory and you
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got to see Walker's domestic violence or abuse or whatever,
sorry ververbal abuse.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Verbal.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I don't know how YouTube is gonna take it, but
you know what I'm saying, I'm trying to find the
where that YouTube is not gonna flag, but they'll flag it.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But I like how they did those different scenes.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
You got to see a piece of their darkness and
what made them on their journey, because that made Elena
who she is now. That not made her who she is,
but it made her a black widow, made to what
she's struggling with now. So there's more context when she's
freaking out later on with Alexi. She doesn't have any
so much darkness in her and that's why she could relate.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
To Bob so well.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Ye the way with a.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Great scene. Yeah, if they were, they found both found
their ways to bring the emotion that they needed to
those things.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And I just like that the Century or the Void
was technically the villain, but Valentina was definitely the bigger
arcing villain.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But she was so like, chill about.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It, you just puppet masters.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I liked the subject matter of being depression and like
mental health being the big kind of overarching bad guy
as well.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
By the way, this movie did come out during mental
health MOMP. So that's well, yeah, that's what you said that.
I was like, oh, that that's cool because it is
mental health Awarness.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So yes, now about the.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Way, since we just take a little moment to pause,
just got to ask my brother and a mental health awarness,
how is your mental health?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
My mental health is great. How is your mental health?
I'm doing great, good mental health.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It's good.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Mental health has been a little birth out work and stuff.
But of course, you know the normal stuff that we
deal with.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
We know we're here. Yeah, but yeah, man, that's good.
Good to hear. So we just had to I just
had to check in with my guy.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, and I hope everybody who's working having a good
mental health and having the mental health in general, because
that's important.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It is very important.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Very important.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Mental health is mental health should be a bigger thing
than it than it is for the country, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Definitely at the whole podcast person.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Yes, that was a little moments back to the nature
hand the podcast.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Ye, I got some questions, but okay, who in the
in the MFU I'll think I'll give it to the
mg ride, but I know who it is.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Who's your favorite super soldier out of the ones that
we currently.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Have my favorite super soldier?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, who is your person? Just like that fifty per
soldier I'm rocking with.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I'll say this, I wish I could have got flashbacks
m of him because I definitely think that would have
made him my favorite.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But Bradley, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
If I could have gotten if I couldn't, could have
had like flashbacks to see him carrying out the missions
and stuff, because I know that story and that story
is like so close to me, like one of my
favorite Marvel stores that they have, because it definitely pulls
inspiration from like a real life.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Tragedy that happened in America.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
So I think that would have been cool to see
if we would have got more of that, he would
have definitely been my favorite, but we just got him
later on was it New New World or.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
The World uh uh something, Yeah, but the Falcon Captain
America whatever, So he would have definitely been there.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
But if we're going just like my favorite, not call
for who's the best and who can fight and who
has the nice gadgets, he's Alexi.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Okay, the Guardian, you got it.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
You gotta do this because he does this, Lee, Yes,
so Alexi, and I'll say this like all like seriousness.
The reason why I do like Alexi is because he's
like Steve, but just the Russian version Steve. Because he
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has a good heart. He really believes and he wants
to pull that good out of people. Like the whole
time he was trying to bring everybody together and he
just had the vision and the thing. Like Steve, he's
not gonna stop until he can prove that's what has
to be done. Even when everything was going down, And
I love how with Lena he still was pushing towards her,
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like he didn't push away even when she was like no,
I don't want you, I don't want this.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
He was like, no, I gotta fix it. That's his thing,
like even though he's not.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Good at it, he's going to figure out how to
fix it and make it work. And I think that's
what makes him such an interesting character because that shows
his growth like each time. Like and it's so crazy
because this movie actually makes Black Widow, the Black Widow
movie very relevant now, Like at first he was like, wow,
they ain't making it, but now it's okay, it's paying
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off now at this point in the mc U, so
like we get to see that he because he's made
a lot of bad decisions and he's messed up a lot,
and particularly pertaining to Natasha and Orlanda. So he still
hasn't he hasn't all the way like fully owned up
to it. But now he's okay, I have a chance
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to do it right now, and I'm doing it. And
even to the point when he thought the void was
like they didn't know that the void was the void,
and he thought she was gone, like he saw the emotions.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
So next is one of those guys.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
That, like you root for it, that's the guy like
the underdogs, Yes, because we know Blackie finnh hand hand
out some ass whoopings. We know John Finner go like
batshit crazy because I ain't gonna lie. When that man
hit that adrenaline bro, he goes like crazy like he
did well. He took the one dude and hit his
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head up against the truck.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And there was like I was like, come down.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
He he like.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I will say, John Walker, he ain't as strong as Steve,
but he do got hands. Take the hands from him and.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
He's precise accurate with his too. Can't say certain words
and say the tool man, I have to say Alexi
definitely the great choice I gotta get.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I gotta give me an Lexi shirt.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Definitely.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
But me, I'm gonna go with my boy Bucky because
Bucky has had a journey and if we can't, if
we're not gonna go based on Bradley, that is an
aspect I don't know mention for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Respect to the o Ge Man.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
But Winter Soldier, whenever he shows up, he's handling it.
There is no floundering. He showed up in the movie.
He said, think, think, think, blow that car up, blood
carp blood car up.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
All right, now, I gotta take y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah now, and.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Now you're going into and handle him to the point
where Sentry didn't they didn't break it for a Kana
tech arm. He just took it off. He couldn't mess
with it. That Wakanda tech is crazy because he tried
to burn it and the thing wasn't burning.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
That's what was gonna do.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
And and that's and though he's had a dark past,
obviously he's had the time to have a redemption. And
so when you see him on the feeder, when you
see him doing stuff, you know he's got the heart.
Steve's not wrong about him. He's got the heart. He's
a good he's a good guy. He just got wound
up in the wrong situation. And I want that same
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kind of journey for John Walker. I want him to
go through that when he has to deal with it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, I'm John just like a room for the ley Man.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Because every the thing about John is he's the typical
American soldier that is of Americans in this dayn time,
and even from the other wars that come back home,
they end up like that. So that's a very honest
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and accurate portrayal of a war hero.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And then on top of that, you gave him some
super soler Sarah.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
And apparently what we see is it can have different
effects on different people. Steve, he's a good person, so
you know it, and.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
His ability of the abilities.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
John plays with his head because he didn't been through
some ship so it made sense. And but Bluckie his
is like Steve, he went through the whole thing with
hydro and all that.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So that's his story.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
John definitely is a product of the America that that
he thought he was like trying to represent. And and
it's like they left him out to hang a little
bit so because they totally hyped him up to be
Captain America and then like when he fumbled the bag,
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it was like, I think we changed our mind. We're
gonna go with this guy because he's technically he has
the shield, so we're just gonna try to see if
this works and we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Just the fact. Definitely room guy.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
The things about John Walker is they brought him in
to be a like a loyal soldier and to do
the government's dirty work. And they did the same with
same thing with Steve, and Steve was like, I'm good.
And John Walker didn't understand that divide of making your
own personal choice. He thought he was serving his country,
you know what I mean. He has a soldier mentality
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Steve didn't have that because he wasn't a soldier. He
got a super super serreum before he even became a
soldier and would through that that kind of military lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So he was very opinionated and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
So I think it's the difference in like you were saying,
it was like one was a soldier first and then
a super soldier, one was a person and then a soldier. Yeah,
so it's a flip, and I think a lot of
I think because they said that Sinry had like this
something of grandeur, like he wanted to be somebody he
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wanted to he wanted to match, he wanted to be
somebody that you know, could he even said it, And
think he said in the movie like I wanted.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
People to think I matter.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
And I think John mc walker had that same thing,
and that's why the comments got to him, and that
in his void, that's why when he's making them means,
they got to him, and that's why he was feeling
himself and sucking in the winter solter and when even
when Sam looked at him and said you don't deserve
that shield, that rubbed him the wrong way and that's
why he went on through that series and let him
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down the path.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Because the thing is, Sam knows what Captain America looks like.
He was his.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Partner for a lot of those movies and missions and
stuff like that. So when two people that were close
to Steve Rodgers tells you, you ain't in you, especially
a thing where you're he talked about his ranks and
stuff like that, either I was a high ranked guy
and with that the other and I was a captain
of my soccer or football team.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That he's an accolades guy.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
He has to have these accomplishments and accolades to back
what he's doing. And it's almost like he keeps those
things in his mind to tell him that he's a
good person in that way, and that's what makes him.
That's the qualities he has, the good qualities without weigh
the bad ones. When he finally comes to grip with
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that bad quality he has, it's like he was, Yeah,
I know I'm not a good person, and that's good
because that's the first step realizing.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
That, hey a shitty human being to say because I
gotta exactly because the way I think if everybody on
that team was like a villain or like an anti hero,
and he's fitting there thinking he's like the hero, and
I'm like, dude, you're on this team for a reason.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
You're totally off the dude in front of everybody like
you here.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
For a reason.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Don't be thinking you're above and level but on favorite
going on the favorite trail to keep the favorite trail rolling.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Who's yours?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Your favorite widow, Lena or Anatasha? Who's your favorite of
the chill that we've seen? Are you one of the
new widow? Are you still rocking with when Natasha?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
No, I've actually grown the vena, Yeah, because for one,
she's funny as Hell's hilarious because her whole nonchalant like
jokes and stuff. She says it's Ley. Yes, So I'm
leaning more towards her because she's really almost Natasha but younger. Yeah,
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as far as like the fighting styles and the training
and stuff in the backstore and then Florence, she just
really kills that bro. I think she actually has fun.
You can tell she enjoys it, has fun doing it exactly.
So I'm definitely hyped to see more of her because
I honestly thought that she was gonna be on Sam's
adventure team when he started his knowing, like his Adventure squad.
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So I was like, okay, and then when they did this,
I was like, oh, so that's what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I was like, okay, I mean I'm committed. Yeah, I
agree with you. I like Jolena a lot more like
I like Scarlett. I like Garlett Portrell of Natasha. I
like that and her Black Widow. But it's just about Jolena,
like it's her non shalot because when they're in the
in the beginning feing in the laugh and she's always
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the guy with a gunny.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
He can't shoot for ship, but that's laugh. That was
funny because it is a.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Guy in a labor always is, and they can't shoot
for ship, even like.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Even like when a Lexi pulled up in.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
The loodle, She's gone, no, my dad, just like it's nobody.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It's no.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I'm like, dude, yeah, Or when they were the Bolt
and she was just going in on locker and stuff
like that or no. So she's definitely definitely brought that
character up and definitely I can definitely watch to see
more of that character. And I know I was gonna
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ask you about do you like Century more than You're
like Superman. Are you still like Superman like I'm talking
about in general, like even from the movies, the comic
books and whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Are you more a Fentry fan or a Superman fan.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
I'm new to century honest, Like I've known the character,
like his existence, but I haven't really been into like
what he does until more recently.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I gotta go, I'm always going my boy Clark, even.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Though I get even though I give Clark a hard time,
super Superman is my guy because anybody that can crush
the world with their hands and doesn't do it because
he's a good person. And I think that's why centric
kind of words too, because he has those same like abilities,
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but he does have that side of him that can
do that, and we've seen.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
So that's really scary.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Even like at the end crites, Yeah, I can't do it, guys,
because I'm like, dang you literally they got somebody on
their team that can like really clean house, but they
can't risk careful. Yeah, I'll definitely go with my boy
Soups on that.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Like before this movie and before I really got to
know like the character Fintry, I was, I never was
really through a man like fan like that, Like I
like the character, but he's never been like the character
that I'm like, hey, my favorite character. But I just
there's something about Fintry as like him having this like
(29:51):
him having this duality of the void versus him and
have to.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Have that balance. It just becomes interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
And so I lean more towards Century now, but I
need to see more before I'm like sold on it.
But Century is definitely starting to sway me, just because
it's a little bit more complexity to it.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's just like how, for example.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I'm more now a Moonnight fan than I am a
Batman fan because moon Night had a level of higher
level of complexity to him. And I want to say
a controversial thing on the podcast about Moonnight versus Batman,
but I'm gonna leave that to another podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I will say up another one because I think.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
You and then I think I have two final like
too final, and then I'll let you have questions because
I feel like you have some itching questions you got
to go.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
But I think I think you got the questions today. Man,
I'm gonna let.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You being that we know that how petty Sam Wilson
is for the whole Beefy's having with Bucky, do you
think that this is going to lead down to a
path of civil war two? Something's gonna happen between these
two different teams down the road, and they're gonna have
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that same thing with a team iron Man team Cap
but like team New Avengers or Thunderbolts whatever they are
in regular Avengers, and they have to have a battle
of ideas because I don't know if they're going to
resolve this in whatever comes first.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
But also I want to see two different teams fighting.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Into So my question, and maybe it's a lot of
maybe they're isn't really an answer, but I just want
to see if you think that this could lead to
some kind of civil war esque event or where they're
just having some kind of because what is definitely or
actually both of them technically are government owned, shouldn't so
I guess it wouldn't be that, but there'd be something
(31:46):
of a disagreement, maybe even just not the name because
dam Wilson being petty, So maybe it might just be a.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Fight over the name.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah, but do you think there could be with his
Avenger team and this New Avengers.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Just give me, just give me a setup like like
Judge Judy and have she helped be the judge, and
they fighting over the name like the like the TV
show and it got Sam and Blacky give me that
and say the Silvil War Silvil War twocase I'm good.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I don't even just give me that segment. I like that.
Give me that segment and let that be that and
then we move on.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Because I honestly think it would have to be something
very drastic for them to fight because him in sound
like boys right now, yeah, and Blake and fighting on
the same side, So I think it would have to
be something big.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I don't think yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
I think it really depends on what happens. When I
think when we see Fantastic four, we'll know what direction
that they're finna go in. If anything, that would probably
be like a like I say, like a little side
thing that happens, And I think in Doomsday they're definitely
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gonna probably team up.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Of course, I think team up. I think so too.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
The reason this reason I asks just because there's two
separate teams that technically because I think what it would
be is like because Sam maybe because one I think
people were saying because he didn't get the he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
He didn't get to pick them or they didn't add
him to the team. He's mad about it.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
But also I think maybe he's just there are a
bunch of villains people that a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
They shouldn't he don't. Yeah, he don't know none of them.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
So hey, like, I know who you are as far
as like your record, but I.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Don't know you exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
I can definitely understand why he wants to pick his
own team, and it's definitely his team is definitely probably
gonna mirror the first Avenged team. So that's probably why
I'm hoping to that with iron Heart coming out in June, like,
we'll get some answers that I am pissed that Disney
is not promoting that show Better.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Kevin.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
We haven't bro we haven't got a trailer anything. The
during show comes out next month. Yeah, I'm not gonna
get into the politics of it and why, but you
get let's do better Man, because that's a very important
things big. But yeah, so I think it would have
(34:30):
to be something very drastic, So like I said, give
me my.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, that be cool. Though.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
That was creative, and I feel like that because not
even asked, I thought I thought posts on Instagram and
they were, if they were like Field War two and
they have both of them both and that's time might
be a good question to ask, just to point of it,
because I'm like, yeah, maybe there might be a story there.
But seeing as you talked about handtacking Falcony, I don't
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know you question. You set it right up without even
knowing who you think if caps picked out of the
people that we have when we know the universe, or
I'll give you a better one, maybe because I think
he might be making a team in doomsday. So maybe
at that point in time, who do you think you
know his team? And I did it based on who's here,
(35:22):
But if you you fell off in good paces, I
might start changing some things.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Number One, he's gonna have Falcon the new Falcon's who.
You're definitely gonna have him in there. That's a that's
a no brainer. I think it'll be cool as hell,
but I don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It'll be it'll be cool as hell to have.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Thunderbolt Ross as they'll hope, like very hope, but I
know that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
So I'll say Falcon will be in there.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
With changing it up, No no, Ross not, He's not
gonna be in theren't.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Probably maybe Valkyrie. Okay, okay, maybe Valkyrie.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
That's tough because I'm trying to think who's around, Who's
she's gonna have the young adventures never mind. I was
gonna say Cook, but she's got the young.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Are trying to keep the young ones out of the.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Man, that's tough because there's not a lot of heroes doing.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Stuff because Boos is doing his thing, guys off doing
his retired man, I.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Feel like they're still around. Huh. I feel like Man
and are still around.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
They're doing they could be.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
I think they would be on there because of the
original They're part of the original in the comics.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
The original ones. Gonna be cool to finally see them
on that.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
So, like, do you do you think you're gonna be
separated together?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Definitely?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I definitely can see them on that together, cap Falcon
and Man while.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You need to take I would go to say.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Iron Hard, but she I think she's gonna be young.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
She's probably gonna be young too.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, Dumper, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Man, I really want Peter to be on there. Peter
would be cool.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
He's already he's already technically technically. Yeah, I don't know
if they're gonna put it back up that day and
movie gonna be a soccer.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
I'm wondering if they're trying to introduce a new Hope.
If not, I don't know if like.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Could be.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
But Jennifer, yeah, yeah, you know what.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I would want her because I think she's doing do
justice to come back and redeem that character her.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Who will who will be?
Speaker 5 (38:12):
It's six right, yeah, Okay, I gotta I think I
got one.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
Okay, let's see m Chumley who Chumley?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Shunk? Yeah? No, what is it? Shunk shang shang Shang.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I was like cholate. I was like, yeah, I was like,
all right over.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I got that's my wild card, shunk che.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
That's a good wild card. How Marvel forgets about him.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I feel like that'd be a great pull in Silence
is a little different.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But I think you gotta like some of my people.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Okay, all right, So we had so we both said
doctor all right, both said she hoped. Both said I
put ant man or was, depending on which one wants
to be in that role. So that's just the one there.
I said, doctor change. He's still around doing stuff and
it's a powerhouse. I really want to see a Black
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Panther on there. I got we got out that Black Panther,
even Cherry or even the alternate version of all Over
getting in Doomsday, and I'm putting Photon her spectrum because
she's still out there and she's a powerhouse and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
See that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I was like, I don't know, like how she's going
to get back, but they do bring her back, definitely,
but the.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
X Men are coming over. I feel like she's gonna
come over back find a way.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
To either way.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
So basically, we both got got some good teams and
it's a possibility they how possibility of those could be.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
That could be a line though, and they also could
throw some X Men in there or something like that.
I don't think they're gonna throw any Fantastic Four in
there because they're a family and they are That's why
I didn't chew them, but like X Men, they could
do that based on the fact that I don't know
what X Men they would put in there.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Besides like Wolverine Loan being alone.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Hero because you can't put thy Clock because they put
side Clock in it.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
That's an X Man. That's like, that's a defining you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Wolvering like jumped between the two of them because he's
like an o thing, but any other one's like Storm.
That's when you start getting a little complicated. I don't
know which characters they could do a quick silver that
they actually do. Scarltt Wick, Carl Witch.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
She's still around, but it's.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Still around, but she I don't think they're gonna mess with.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Yeah alone, Oh oh we're back cool, it's evil or whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
But that I think the rap that thing it blitched out.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, that's being weird. Ye, it's being weird.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I mean that we gotta.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
But yeah, they could throw a wild card and thrown
in there, but I don't think they will. I'm thinking
they're gonna have their own team and stick together. So
that's just to cover my basis. But you have any
final thoughts before you wrap it?
Speaker 5 (41:29):
No, really good movie, Jordan, glad we got to get
back to the formula that made Marvel. Definitely brought me
back to the Iron Man, Win and Soul to Black
Path of Days, and it felt like it wasn't too big.
They started after the end game started feeling like really
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big so definitely, I'm this definitely gets me more excited
for fantastic for so I agree A good segment, good, warm,
the appetizing.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yes, I can't wait to see what's nixt raking.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I give it. I will give it a strong.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Eight strong ad I can agree with strong, Yeah, strong,
strong like it's obviously it had I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I don't think there's any nippicks, but I just think.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
They don't have nons.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Just sounds like because it's one of those movies that
is there and it does what it has to do.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Wasn't long, but I don't have a problem with.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
That now because everything felt like fire to everything felt
like it needed to be there, could a stare around table.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Give it an eight, I agree with that being said,
you know what time.
Speaker 9 (42:52):
It is, this time before the shameless promotional and they
little guest appearance in there.
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