Media Mentors: Vassy Club House Live Interview, Rejections & Redirection

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I told y'all we got a special, special, special interview today, Special
one Rejections and redirection. I can'twait for you guys to hear this one.
Listen up, man, I gota special guest. I'm about to
ping this room up and share thisroom up and wait for people to come

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through. Rihanna, you early right. I'm waiting for Vassi to pull up.
I'm waiting for Andrea to pull up. I'm waiting for the media mentor's
crew to pull up. It's gonnabe one of those rooms where we really
dive in. Marisol's here early right, like everybody's heat. That's what I'm
trying to tell y'all. It's gonnabe a great, great, great room.

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Like I really want y'all to know. It's gonna be fire right.
Andrea is here, right. Wejust waiting for Vassi to pull up.
As soon as she pulls up,man, listen, I'm gonna have everybody
get up, So just give mea minute. Me and Andrea wicked and
this together. But Vassie will behere here any moment. You you understand,

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we do the biggest rooms when wedo we do this shit, and
we do it intentionally. I'm notjust doing a room just to do it.
If I take the time, it'sgonna be fired. It's gonna be
nothing but heat. You understand.So let's pick this up. Let's share
this up because y'all know two twopm. This is like, this is

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like my golden It's like my favoritetime to come up on here to go
crazy. Sha't come up here,Nick, thank you for being here.
May sot Rihanna what we just gettingstarted. But I really need you guys
in the right man. I waslistening to music last night, Andrea,
I'm bumping this last night like yougot me bumping it. I'm listening.
I'm like, yo, I cannotwait to hear more from this person that

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made this music, made these legendaryyou know what I'm saying, Like,
well, no, because I likedoing legendary stuff. There's no way right
and Andrea knows this, But it'slike when you do legendary stuff, you
make sure you know them for timesand on and on and generations. Like
you do these things, it doesn'tmatter if you're a woman or a man,

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it doesn't matter who you are.I feel like you can kick ass
in any industry, any industry,any industry, you can kick some ass.
And it's gonna be like that today. So I appreciate you guys.
I'm about to ping this room.I'm about to bring the rest of you
guys up right, and I'm goingto talk about rejections and redirection. I

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like this is gonna be one ofthose good topics I want to talk about
it. I want to dive allthe way in. Pick this up thuff
for me. I'm like, man, we should already be you know what
I'm saying. Let's warm this suthing. You know what I'm saying, Let's
warm this something. Let's see whatwe do right, Let's pick this up,

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let's share this something. I wantyou to really know, like,
rejections and redirections is good. It'sreally really important, really really important for
this today's topic because it's not alwaysa rejection. Is sometimes it's a redirection
to get to where you need togo. So sometimes that that rejection ain't

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always a negative thing. You know. That's what I'm thinking about right now.
It's like, Yo, it's notalways a negative thing when you hear
this, right, So you knowwhat I'm gonna wait for, right Andrea
is you know you're making it doingwhat she got it through it we wait
for fascid. I can't wait tosee what's going on. But like,

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let's figure it out. I'm gonnaplay some imna play some music while we
waiting. What's my other form?Yo, I'm gonna play some music while
we waiting, and then you know, let's start sharing this up to a
lot of different people. I wantto see who's gonna come through today.
I want to see who's really herewith us today, Like today's that day,
right man, Today's the day.Andrea, how you feeling? What's
good? Talk to me? I'msuper excited. She's actually she's trying to

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get in here. She's like theevent link expired. Yes, yes,
I want to do that. I'msuper excited. Everyone, thank you for
coming. Do me a favor.Like, Vassie is super cool. She
is really down to earth and she'sall about like getting sharing and being building

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community. And she did a verylike in a very unique way. For
those of you who don't know sheis, let me just invite it.
I'm not actually invited, give meone second, because you're trying to get
in. But she is an EDMAicon. She's the first woman to ever
be awarded this award in history,and she has a slew of like accomplishments.

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But if you listen to your story, she's on Clubhouse now. She
said, she's ready to talk aboutthe nitty gritty stuff. Right She's gonna
talk about to keep it real,build community, because that's exactly why we
asked her to be on here,is to support the community, support creators
like talk about real stuff. Andthere she is right now with us.

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So we're gonna pull her up andthen we're gonna move. We're gonna move
a couple of people down, andthen we're gonna bring y'all back up so
we can structure it. So comeback up after Vassi comes back up,
So invite her up real quick sowe can have her up here, and
then we're gonna we're gonna we're gonnarock out with her. Even though she
was figuring it out. She figuredout how to get up here. Let's
rock out with Vassi, and thenwe're gonna have everybody come back up.

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So Vassi, please accept the invite. I just invited you just now so
you can come back up. Andreainvite her too so she can accept the
invite. And then right here bag. All right, Okay, I'm about
to invite everybody back up so wecan come back up on stage and start
pinging this room out and sharing thisroom out to a lot of different people.

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So Andrea helped me ping everybody upand paying everybody back up. Shay,
you as well bring everybody back upand then that way we can get
this rocket. Andre over to you. All right, Dassie, Oh my
god, it's been so long.How are you hey? Guys, can
you can hear me? Okay,right, we can hear you? Pert?
Yeah, all right, good good, I'm good. How is everyone

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post Grammy weekend? Feeling good?Feel how you feeling? I'm happy because
Carlie Minogue won the Pop Dance categoryand I'm just so happy for her.
And you know, it just goesto show you you don't you don't give
up. I mean sometimes it cantake a while, but here she is,
thirty years later winning her first Grammy. So how do you feel about

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that, Vassie. Let's get intothat. Let's let's get right into it.
How you feel about that? Doesit? Do you feel like it?
It doesn't matter how long it takesto make the success. When to
get something, you'll get there.Let's talk about it. I mean,
I think that it does take time. People need to realize that that it
really does take time. And allthese like overnight success and stations, they're

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never overnight, even though they makethem look that way. Some people obviously
start in the business really young,so even their success isn't necessarily overnight.
Although you know they've peaked at twentytwo or twenty, they've really started from
a young age. If you lookat Justin bieber you know, Beyonce,
Justin Timberlake, even Taylor Swift,these are really artists that have been artists

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from the minute they you know,started walking, because they they're born into
families that are in the entertainment businessand they're exposed to all this, so
they're like steps ahead of a lotof other artists. Say that start a
little a little later in life forsomeone like me, who literally got a
degree in architecture and then started mycareer in music, so I got a

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really late start. So my pointis is that it does take time,
period. But you know, it'sgreat if you can start early, right
because it's definitely a young business,the music business, and it helps to
be young. But I feel liketimes are changing now, and the cool
thing about the music space right nowacross all genres that people are really having

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comebacks no matter what age and arehaving success equally as much as success as
you know, the younger folks,and it's a really cool thing to see.
So with that, then, youknow, it definitely reinforces to not
give up, because if you believein yourself and you're relentless and you put
in the time, sometimes these thingscan take a long time. You know.

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I was at a went to theBuster Rhymes Grammy party over the weekend
and got to see him and youknow, listened to his beautiful speech and
watch his private screening of He's gota new film that's out. It basically
talks about his career and where he'sat. And in his speech, he
gave us this really great heartfelt likehe just kept it real. And the

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guys been in the business for overthirty years, you know, like Kayli
Minogue, and he said, youwent through a period where I mean went
through it recently, went through periodwhere literally no label wanted to touch him
and he couldn't get deals. Andyou know, I thought it was really
cool that he said that, rightbecause no one ever wants to reveal that.
It's not sexy to talk about yourrejections. It's not sexy to talk

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about the fact that you've spent youknow, fifteen years. Like Victoria Manet
won a Grammy. You know,she's been in the game for you know,
over fifteen years, and she's putin her time. And she said
it was the first thing she said, and I felt good on her for
saying it. I mean, she'sstill relatively young, right, but it
was cool that she said that.And I think sometimes, you know,

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publicity press can make things out likean overnight sensation. Like if you think
about you know, Billie Eilish,sometimes people think, oh my gosh,
she was so young. Wow,I can't believe it. She got so
but she's been grinding since like akid age. And again she's lucky because
she's got a family that's acclimated withthat brother that's a producer. But my
point is is that even she didn'tjust she wasn't just an overnight success either,

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Like these things do take time.But the cool thing about that is
that we're now in a space whereyou know, it's okay to be a
certain age and still be successful likethe doors haven't shut, put THEE in
the dass he keep going, I'msorry, yeah, I was just saying.
So one of the things that Busterhim said was, you know,

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he got all these rejections from thelabels, like no one wanted to touch
him, and then he was likescrew this, like I'm literally going to
do my own thing. Then andhe did, and so he went independent,
which he can, right, he'sgot the money, but he did
this really cool thing, and thenyou know, he was smart. Like
a lot of older folks, theydo partner up and associate themselves with younger

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artists and it does make them relevantbecause they then they tap into a young
audience that's listening to these artists thatare still say twenty or you know,
in the early twenties. And Ithink a lot of people are doing that,
you know, from obviously the BusterRhymes to Day Together. Are these
iconic artists that are doing it.But going back to Kylie Minogue situation,

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you know why I'm so proud ofher is not because she's Australian, but
literally, like Kylie Minogue is theMadonna of Australia and she's been big for
decades and she's been grinding and reallytrying to make it in the American market,
right, And I know how hardit is because I came here from
a little remote part of the outbackfrom Australia, and I didn't know anyone.

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I had startled over again, likeI was all of a sudden nobody
after coming from a place where Iwas somebody and I was you know,
famous and had I mean, Iwasn't like Kylia Monog's status, but I
was on radio and in you know, magazines and doing live TV morning broadcast
shows and concerts. And then Icame here and I was literally no one

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again, and it really sucked.And it took years to become someone again.
And so she was just grinding foryears. And so to cut a
long story short, my point isis that she's not a DJ, right,
She's not that, she's not that, but she's been a dance artist
for a long time. I mean, she is pop predominantly, but she's
been making dance musics and you know, okay, she doesn't write the stuff

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or anything, but she's just areally you got to respect someone like her.
She's so humble, and here sheis winning a category. I'm so
proud of her. I mean shewas up against David Ghetto, Calvin Harris,
like really big heavy hitters, andshe got it. And I'm and
so it just goes to show you, you know, you just stay true
and authentic to yourself. You know, a lot of these things are about

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timing. And obviously she hasn't hada bad right I mean, she would
still be fine without a Grammy.But of course it's every artist dream to
win a Grammy. I mean it'slike the pinnacle of everything. So and
she finally got her first grad Soit just goes to show you, you
know, anything can happen. It'snever too late. Basically, I love
that Vassie. Look, if youguys are ready for this conversation with Vassie

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inside of the media mentorship community,put a one in the chat, put
a fire emoji in the chat,shit a room out, picking the room
out. Let's roll the red garbit out for let's show how we get
down over here right every time someonecomes over here that does amazing things.
As we always wrote, the redgarbet out, have fire questions for you,
And I got some fire questions foryou right now. And if you

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guys are ready, let's share itout, let's pick it out, because
this is what it's about, collaborations, right, and we're talking about rejections
and redirection. It's gonna be afire conversation. Look, my first question
for you, as he is,what was the moment that you realized you
wanted to be a singer and asongwriter? What was like, dang,
what was that that he was like? This is it? This is what

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I'm going to do, and I'mgoing all the way here and nobody's gonna
start. First of all, canI just say I love Jamaican horns the
drills. I mean that is somy vibe. Oh yes, you have
me at Jamaican horn drills. Iknew I wanted to be an artist from

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a really young age. But youknow, I grew up in a,
like I said, a really remotepart of Australia, and I grew up
with an ethnic family and my parentsmigrated to Australia and it was really all
about I've worked really freaking hard toleave poverty, come to a country slave
my ass off. I am notabout to let you just be a singer

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bullshit type of you know, strictGreek father mentality. And I remember at
the time going, oh, man, like, I totally respect my father
and his hard work and I can'tlet him down and I have to honor
his wishes. And so he pulledme out of you know, I was
doing piano, saxophone, anything musicrelated, because he's like, why am
I spending money on this? Iwant you to get an education. I

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want you to become a lawyer orthis, or you know, something like
that. We didn't have opportunity todo because we were poor, and literally
we came here so that you guyscan have the opportunities that we didn't have.
Anyways, so I did. Iactually, unfortunately I lost my father
to cancer. It was very unfortunate. I was very young, and I

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did promise him that I would getmy degree, and I did. I
studied architecture and I finished my degree, but I got his blessings before he
passed. So I promised I wouldfinish my degree and then I started my
career. But the age that Iknew I wanted to be artists was seven,
and at what happened at seven waspretty much the beginning of my philosophy

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in life. I was kicked outof school choir and I was told in
front of the whole choir and infront of all the kids by the music
teacher that I didn't have what ittook. And she humiliated me and made
me feel, you know, reallyembarrassed and like I was a loser.
And in that moment, that wasa huge rejection and I was ever felt

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like Vassi put it one in thechat, if someone ever rejected you,
or you ever felt like that,let's show or some really you know,
some relatability. Let's get up inthere. If someone ever made you feel
like that, go ahead, Vassieover to you. Yeah. So,
and I was young, right so. I mean obviously there's been a lot
of other rejections since then. Butwhen you're that young and you get rejected
and told you know, you're notgood at something or you don't have what

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it takes, that really fucks youup as a kid. I mean,
he can it can potentially fuck youup as a kid. I mean,
Luckily it didn't come from a placeof love like my family, because they
always believed in me. I mean, they didn't say that you don't have
what it takes. They just said, we prefer you not do music and
do something that's going to bring moneyin. But anyway, my point is
is that in that moment when Iwalked away and I was kicked out,

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I was like, is this evenallowed? Like now I would you know
you could sue the school for somethinglike that. You cannot crush a kid's
dreams. That moment became the beginningof my success because as a kid,
I was not emotionally involved to understand, but I somehow knew in my heart
instinctively that this teacher was wrong.And that's the choice I took as a

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kid, as in, I wasmature enough in my own soul spirit to
understand that this teacher kicked me outbecause I was different. I wasn't doing
what all the other kids were doing. And it wasn't that I wasn't good
enough. It was that she didn'tunderstand me. I didn't fit in that
box and that's it. And soI took that instinctively, and I knew
that I was an artist, likeI had something different. I wasn't leading,

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you know, the followers. Iwasn't following the leader. I was
the leader. So I thought,Okay, I'm going to just have to
take my own path with this one. So I just wanted to share my
very first rejection and how that becamea redirection and hence why it has become
my philosophy in life. And letme tell you, anyone, obviously that's
in the business and is successful,you're going to get a lot of rejections,

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a lot of rejections, And evenwhen you're successful, you're going to
get them. And even when you'refreaking buster ride, you're going to get
them. Like you just heard himsay, And I'm telling you, big,
big artists who are making millions ofdollars are still getting rejections. They
don't talk about these rejections, butthey're still getting them. Luckily, they're
at a place where they don't needthese people necessarily because I've got the money,

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right, But there's still going tobe something that's going to come up.
And so the tough thing is takingthese rejections and using them as fuel
to flip them right, to giveyou the ammunition that you need to continue
your path, because they're always theserejections are just literally little blessings in disguise.

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I know they don't feel like itat the time, and trust me,
I have to tell myself that too. But I'm telling you. If
you just wait it out and youkeep going. In a few months,
you're going to realize, oh wow, that's why that happened. Shit,
if that didn't happen, I wouldn'thave done that, and then this wouldn't
have happened, and then I wouldn'tbe here. And so that is why
I think they're big blessings, eventhough they hurt feelings that make you feel

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like a loser. You're not aloser, trust me. And the only
person that's going to convince you ofthat is going to be you. Uh,
it starts with you. When youbelieve in yourself, everyone else will.
And I'm not talking about being cocky, because there's a lot of cocky
people out there and that's cool.That's their thing, and if that works

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for them, they're great. LikeI'm not here to judge, but I
take a different route. I thinkit's good to be healthy, proud,
like if you've worked really hard,and you know, I've worked really hard.
So sometimes I talk about my accomplishments, but that's really to share them,
like say, say a Victoria Maney, what she did? You want
to inspire? You share them toinspire. That's what I did exactly you

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talk about them because there are othergirls and guys out there that either look
like me, sound like me,can know relatable, like grew up with
ethnic parents, came to this countrywith no one, have been rejected,
look like you know, have mycomplexion or whatever it is, and can
now you know they're not a skinnythis girl, they're this, there are

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that. There's just so many things. If someone can relate to me now
it becomes tangible and they can belike, oh that, I feel like
she's talking my language. And shewent through that. And I've heard so
many people over the years tell melike you're an inspiration. You let me
believe in me by seeing your success. It makes me think that I too
can do it. And that iswhy it's important to share the stories,

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right, but just you know,to do it in a way like I
was watching the Grammys on the weekendand we noticed a couple of moments during
Miley Cyrus's set, and I thoughtit was interesting, you know, I
do love that song and she gotup and she did a few things,
and I noticed some people were cringingat some of the moments, you know,
and it was just like, oh, okay, there were some things

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that happened during the Grammy's that peoplecringed at, but you know, not
just her, like a couple otherartists that did. But I got a
sigh. I really enjoyed how eloquentlike the Victoria Manet was. I mean,
she did win, you know,best artists, but I just thought
it was really graceful, you know, and just humbling. So anyways,

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I'll keep going on on a ranthere, but yeah, basically, I'm
not sure if I answered it yourquestion exactly, but let me know if
you mean you definitely did Andrea didshe answer the question, because she sure
did put one in the sty Ivassie. You know, one thing I love

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about you, and I've loved fromthe beginning, is that you are an
empowered You empower a woman, notjust one, but people from all walks
of life. And you don't justsay that, you actually show that in
your work. Like so, alot of people know you for your dad
and dance music and DM and thingslike that, but they don't know the

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acoustic side of you as well.And I love that you stay true to
your art and your craft, andI really wish that maybe you can share
that with us because I feel likea lot of people are like kind of
tearing on the edge of like shouldI be like this person because it's going
to get me more fame? Youknow that whole You understand what I'm saying,

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But you stuck to your values andI love that about you. So
you're saying, basically, I'm sorry, ask me that real quickly, ye,
question, So the question is howhow did you do it navigate this
world where a lot of people tryto put artists in a box, you
know, and say you'll be goodat this, you know? So how

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did you stay true to your callingand your oh got you? Yeah?
Okay? Oh man? You knowwhat? You know, I've heard so
many things over the years, youguys. I mean so, and I'll
start by saying this. So lastyear, I literally became the first woman
to win the Icon Award at theEDMA Awards in Miami, which are like

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the Grammys, the Grammys of thedance space, right the dance world.
Everyone flies in to Miami for Ultraand then they have the Day Awards.
The cool thing about that, whileI'm sharing that not to try and you
know, sound cocky or boast,but I'm sharing it because it was cool
that I was the first woman.And you know, dance is definitely a

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boys club and very DJ driven.I'm not a boy obviously, and I'm
not a DJ, and I'm inthe dance world as an artist and having
had all this success. And justlast night you said that to me,
you said, it's a boys club, but it's a woman's world. Well,
yeah, I mean for sure,And you have to say that sometimes

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because you've got to remind yourself that, you know, I'm a woman,
and so I just you know,I got to do things the way I
know. The reason I bring thisup is because over the years, I've
obviously been told a lot of things. Right put aside the DJ thing,
I've been told so many things beforemy career started, Dad, everything from

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physicality stuff. You know, dothis, do that, be more like
this, be more like this.You gotta do you got to do this,
You got to not do that.You gotta you know, lose weight,
although back then I was skinny,but he says, you got to
do this, you gotta do that. You got to you gotta not lose
weight because thick is in. Yougotta this. You got I mean,
just so much stuff. You've gotto not ask so many questions. You've

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got to sit back and not questionthings. You've got to not be so
business savvy. You've got to youknow, play it, play it down,
and you know, you're you're thesinger, you're the artist. You've
got to Oh my god, somuch stuff. And I was just you
know, I work with different teamsover the years, and thank god,
I'm now finally like with a teamthat just you know, believe in me

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and we're on the same page andwe can be partners together, my manager
and I. And my point withthat is that you know, when you're
a young woman and you're evolving,you know, especially when you're still trying
to be successful, right because you'retrying to make it so you're hustling,
you're really trying to explore all theopportunities, and sometimes you're going to get

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a lot of opportunities. And that'sa whole other thing as well. As
a woman, you're going to getyou know, no put the woman aside.
Thing. As an artist, you'regoing to get exploited. Just expect
to get exploited, period. Sothat's a whole other subject. You know,
you've got to have good lawyer andstuff, it's going to happen.
Sometimes you have to get a littleexploited in order to you know, make

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a piece of a small piece froma big pie type of scenario. And
then as a woman, you're alsogoing to face other things, especially when
you're young and you're attractive, andyou know you look good and you're just
going to attract stuff. People cantell that you're I don't want to say
thirsty, but they can tell that. You know, you're you're eager to

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be successful and you're not yet,So now you're vulnerable and these people can
take advantage of that, and theywill try to and it's up to you
whether you want to allow that ornot. I'm not here to judge.
I know people that have, youknow, taken opportunities to do things to
get places, and that's on them. It's not my path. I could

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never do that. You know.My father's up there always looking down on
me, and he worked way toohard for me to do that and dishonor
him. So I take integrity credibilityvery importantly, and you know that's just
the way I was raised. Ihave the morals and values, so unfortunately
I had to knock back a lotof situations. Not unfortunately, I mean
unfortunately, as in, once youknock back the you know, certain type

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of invitations, you lose the opportunitiesas well. So those doors close.
But that's fine, right, Soif you believe in yourself, you just
got to keep going. So it'snot it's not always the easy route,
and unfortunately things will close and youlike you can't explore those exciting, big,
potentially big, you know, careerchanging opportunities. But I think I

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just throughout the whole thing remained authenticto myself. And then when my career
really took off in the dance space, the conversation and the narrative changed and
it was like, oh, you'vegot to collaborate with this person, you
know, and you got to dothis. And when I had my huge
records with David Ghetter and Tiesta,all of a sudden then it was just
like, oh, you got towork with this guy. You got to
you know, can you give meanother vocal? Like this? Can you

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give me another? And I gotburnt out because it was just having to
do all this stuff to accommodate allthese people, and I just was like,
this isn't really me, Like I'man artist. I got to I
got to get back to what itis I do and why I came to
this country. I like the successof it, don't get me wrong.
I like the money of it,don't get me wrong. But I started

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to feel drained, like my soulwasn't getting inspired. Then what happened was
everyone was trying to push me toDJ, and you know what, It's
actually a cool thing if you areexcited to do it, especially if you're
in the dance genre, which ismy genre, but it's not really me
and I tried to pick it upand not do it. But then then
then there were the other knockbacks.Well, if you're not going to DJ,

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you know, you're you're not goingto make it to this, You're
not going to get booked for this, You're not. You just limit yourself,
and it's true, you are verylimited. But I was just like,
I get that, and I'm goingto miss out again on all these
things. But I just I don'twant to do something because that's what I'm
supposed to do to force it.I just want to do what I want
to do, which is write songs. I'm a writer, a songwriter.

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I'm an artist. I'm a soulfulartist. I have to feel it.
I can't just you know, Igrew up, you know, not grew
up, but I was inspired byjazz and you know, I love soul
music and this is the stuff Ireally want to be doing. But unfortunately
that's not where I've made my money. So I'm now in a place where,
you know, my fans know mefor a certain sound, and so

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you could technically say I've been boxed. But I like dance records. I
love dance music, so I tryto grow out of that. Like I
have a release coming out on Friday. It's not dance stuff. It's going
back to my indie roots, whichis, you know, just really soulful,
quirky indie stuff to indulge and remindmyself. You know how I started

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in the music space more as ajazz singer, slash this, you know,
influenced by Regain all sorts of stuff. But I've just remained authentically myself.
Now it might be a longer path, but when I won the award
last year, being the first woman, it was like a confirmation and a

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validation that oh shit, you know, I really it paid off being authentic
and sticking out and yeah, Iprobably missed out on some opportunities and I
could have made more money. Icould be touring with this person at DJ.
But at the end of the day, I'm happy doing what I do
and it's I feel fulfilled artistically right, and I think that's the it's important

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thing. So if you if youare out there feeling pressured to have to
do this, is not the onlyvoice you need to listen to, is
yours. Be open to opinions becausesometimes you know, people have great ideas.
Doesn't necessarily mean you have to takethem, but if you're willing to
explore them, go for it.But you're going to know what feels right
you just it's just going to youknow, strike a call with you.

(30:22):
You're gonna know, and you're gonnabe like, oh I like this,
Okay, cool, I I'll changedirections, I'll do this, I'll change
my image, I'll change my sound. But if you don't want to,
then always fall back on instinctively whatfeels right for you, even if it
might not necessarily bring the most rewardsimmediately. Like I said, it's a
long path. You just stick itout, and I promise you if you

(30:47):
stick it out and you put inthe work. Like the hard work.
It's gonna it's going to pay off. Like something is that you're going in,
you go put it one in thechat of Vassi's going in. I
need her to take a little break. You on halftime right now where we
hit two thirty right, she's beengoing there. Get thet fire emoji in
the chat. Please share the romoPingER Roe. We need at least twenty

(31:07):
y'all want Vassy to keep going inthat. We need at least twenty right,
least twenty y'all gotta share it upa little bit. Real, she's
been dropping. I got more questionsfor it, but let me get for
a little you know what I'm saying. Can I give you a little break
Vassy? Real quick? Please?I need to bump some Come on,
I need to I need to playsomething. Let's go something electric between you

(31:30):
and nine. The way we connectthat I can't describe, but right on
the edge of blurring the lines.I don't know why I'm scared of ex
rushing side. Every time I feelyour fast rustions mine. Let's do the
moment. It's yet it's hard timetying slow, dumb, so sweat.

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Listen, I need y'all to sharethis room up. This song is Fireassie.
Alright, so look off switch right. I got a question for you
for off Switch? Right? Whatinspired you to do off Switch? Because
that's a banger right there. Let'slet's get back into it. Ping the
room up, share the room up, put a fire emoji back in the

(32:51):
chat. If y'all like that songfrom Bassie and sent her message on Instagram,
say yo, using the media uson the story too, that's a
fact. Tag us on the story. Let us know you were enjoying this
conversation and pinging more people in hereand let them know that we having a
great conversation. Thanks you, Iappreciated. Let's continue this conversation. But
that's my next question for you asis what inspired off Switch? I know

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it's one of your newest songs,So what inspired is? Let's go.
I think I just I was transitioningout of a certain sound. And I
remember last year saying to myself,going back to what I was talking about
after when I won the EATMA Award, and I remember in that moment,
I felt I can't believe I'm thefirst woman like you know, obviously big,

(33:37):
big, big DJs or guys havewon this award, and I'm the
first girl and I'm all the wayfrom Australia and here I am, and
so I just thought, all right, well, that's really cool, and
I'm leading the path for other women, and it just goes to tell me
I'm on my right I'm on theright path. So I then followed my
instinct and I started writing different typesof records. So I love, you

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know, soul music, and I'ma really big fan of house music,
and I just love dance music backthen in the nineties and stuff, because
I just feel like it was reallymore about the vocals and not so much
about you know, the beats andthe production and all this stuff. And
so then I just wanted to makea body of work that has that house

(34:23):
music influence to it. Big,you know, explosive, melodic, softwul
vocal, passionate and just going backto you know, like just classics,
So Solda Soul and Crystal Waters androminesque and just all like beautiful, you

(34:45):
know, Kathy Turner and just classics. So I think it was inspired from
that, and obviously it's a loverecord. It's like everyone can relate to
a good love record like this.It's like I wish my heart it had
an off switch, you know,because boy, I don't know how to
stop this is it's like you wantto love or be exposed without getting hurt,
and I wanted to write it ina way where anyone can relate to

(35:07):
it. So it could be about, you know, not wanting to get
hurt, or it could be aboutknowing that you shouldn't love this person because
it's a you know, forbidden ora dangerous situation. It's only going to
lead to hurt, so don't doit. So yeah, it's just kind
of it's yeah, it's it's likea very provocative type of passionate romance story.

(35:32):
Yeah, I love that, Sosi. As we move into the next
question, before we do, Ijust I know this is not a promo
room. You've been so happy tojoin us and just be a part of
the community, but I'd like toencourage people to go to your website,
Vassymusic dot com and subscribe. Idefinitely do that so that they can get

(35:59):
those updates when you release your news, your new record. So we do
that now, make sure y'all getthat. Being subscribed being tapped in so
that way when she drops, you'llbe able to be right there. You'll
be able to be right tuned in. If you guys are ready for the
next question, put a two inthe chat. Put a two in the
chat. I'm ready for this nextquestion. Put a two in the chat.

(36:21):
Let's share this room out again.If you'all ready for the next question
for Vassi. Come on, man, this is fire. This is one.
This is probably one of the mostfire interviews we did. Let's keep
rocking. Let's go. Let's go. My next question for you, Vassie,
right, what is one of thekey things every artist should know if

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they want to protect their music andincome. We had a room about this
a couple of weeks ago with mybrother Mark Days, and we were talking
about, you know, protecting andprotecting your music and getting that income.
But Vassi, can you tell usfrom your perspective and what you're doing,
how you're protecting your music and yourincome. We would love to know and
keep sharing as Wow, that's he'sgone and she could be doing anything else,

(37:02):
or she's a hand with the mediamens or is it we appreciate you.
Let's go. I think you've gotto. So there's a couple of
ways to protect your music. Sohere's the thing, and this is this
is some really great advice I wishI knew when I had started. So,

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there's different multiple revenue streams as anartist. You know, obviously there's
performance revenue, there's publishing revenue.If you're a songwriter, there's songwriting revenue
through your p R if you're asongwriter. There's different types of performance revenue
if you're an artist, and thenthere's obviously touring income and things like that.

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If you're a songwriter, I woulddefinitely encourage you to make sure you're
registered with a p R O,Like, let's start with the fundamentals because
not you know, everyone's at differentlevels in their career. So make sure
you registered with a PRO. WhenI say PRO, pro stance for Performance
Right Society basically PRS organization, butit's performance right So in this case,

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think of like BMI or ASCAP inAmerica, So make sure you're registered with
them. It's really easy to dothat if you're a songwriter. If you're
not a songwriter, you don't reallyneed to do that. If you're a
performer, that's a whole other thing. But as a songwriter, definitely do
that. That's your first step.And then the second thing would be is

(38:37):
publishing. So now that's a wholeother thing. But I would I'd be
very adversely break it down publishing,well, what we doing, let's go
well, because it's not that blackand white. It's a little intricate.
You don't necessarily need a publisher.You could have your own publishing entity,
because I feel like that could beconfusing to some people, and I don't

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know, you know how much everyoneknows. But if you are looking for
a publisher, I would, youknow, highly encourage an admin deal,
like an administration deal where you're notgiving away your rights completely or you're not
giving a big portion of your publishingand you're basically, you know, paying
this company X amount, not payingthem, but giving them an X amount

(39:20):
of fee like anywhere from say tento fifteen, maybe sometimes twenty. It
depends on the companies to collect onyour behalf. And when I say collect,
they're making sure that they're really collecting. This is you only really need
to do this if you're releasing,you're with labels, you're getting streams,
you know. Otherwise you could justleave it and just have it direct with

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BMI and so so, yeah,the publishing thing is a whole conversation in
itself. So I just feel likeit depends on someone's situation. But I
would just say, be really reallycareful what you sign. Make sure you
have a good lo okay, becauseyou're you're going to get screwed in contracts

(40:05):
just period. So make sure youhave someone that looks through your contracts and
helps you and guides you in theright direction. And at the end of
the day, it's to everyone's discretion. If you think something feels right and
you want to agree to it,like say they want to take more,
but they're willing to invest in youand give you X amount up front,
then that's your call because listen,they're investing in you, right, so

(40:27):
they're willing to front the cash andtake a chance on you. So with
that then there's an incentive you wantto reward them for that. So it's
the same with label deals. Sojust so now moving from publishing to say
labels, you know, make sureeverything makes sense. Again, there's no
black and white scenario, so it'sreally hard to just say do this or

(40:47):
don't do that. But I thinkthat you know, just make sure you're
registered with all the PRRO societies fromBMIs or the ass caps of the Sound
Exchange. It's just make sure you'reregistered. And anything you don't know,
try to learn about it. Asksomeone that might know. Don't feel afraid
to ask a dumb question. Imean, if you want to slide into

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my dms on Instagram and you knowyou're following and supporting me and showing me
love, I would definitely give youthe time of day any advice. You
know, I'm happy to share advice. So I have done that for several
people that obviously support me. Andsometimes we'll reach out and say, hey,
this is a dumb question. I'msorry to ask you, but dah
da da dah, and I'll justsay I'm a quick voice note on Instagram

(41:30):
and be like, hey, thisis you know, my piece of advice.
So I'm happy to do that.But yeah, I would just really
look at everything and try to educateyourself, because unfortunately what happens is a
lot of artists you get burnt andthat's how you learn. But look,
that might happen to you and that'sokay, but once it happens, try
to avoid it. Happening again.And also, these things tend to become

(41:54):
clearer when you're making money. Thatdon't matter as much right when you're not
really making that money. But oncea big fact check comes in for something,
that's when you start questioning things becauseyou're like, oh shit, like
there's money coming in, you know, and then you start picking up on
stuff and then you're like, hack, come, no one told me about
that, and then this is youknow what happens, and then you realize

(42:15):
you missed out and making money incertain areas because people aren't just going to
give you this advice for free.They're like, well, why should I
tell her about this? You knowwhat I'm saying. So that's all.
Just get a little savvyer, tryto learn more about the music business,
you know, and how to protectyourself. But I just think I think

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I gave you guys two really goodstarting points, which will always when you've
written a song, make sure youregister it so it's protecting your copyright.
And you know, honestly, Iget really lax with that stuff, and
I don't always register my song straightaway, but you know, eventually we'll
register it, like pretty much justwhen it's coming out so, but if

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you don't have a label, Ithink sometimes it's good to get everything registered
so that it's being documented that youknow you're the writer of this, because
I've also had situations in the pastwhere all of a sudden you're hear an
idea of yours on something and you'relike, Uh, okay, that's weird.
Why is my hook on that song? And what just happened there?

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Like so yeah, that stuff canhappen, trust me. Come on,
man, we got Vassie in here. If you guys are enjoying this,
let's get it in. This isfire. I got another question to dive
into. If you are ready fornumber three, get back up in the
chat right now, put a threeup in the chat, pinging the room

(43:42):
out, share the room right.We should have at least twenty five from
We should at least twenty five.Come on, let's ping it out.
Let's put it on the timeline,share it on Facebook, share it on
your story. Andrea, you sharedthe flyer, right, Yeah, I
see everybody sharing the flyer. Shoutout to everybody sharing the flyer. So,

(44:02):
Vassie, can you know expand?But if you're already from Live with
three man let's get up in achat Asad blow it Up shared a room
up. Look, Vassie, I'mgoing right back in with another question.
Can you please share a moment whenyou felt like you were giving up on
your dream and what kept you going? What kept you going? I know
you said a little bit about it, but let's expand it. Let's talk
about there were moments, a fewmoments over my career where I wanted to

(44:30):
give up. So being there donethat, You're not alone if you feel
like giving up. Everyone has reachedthat point. And I think I was
really close to giving up. Soseveral years ago I had a release.
It was like my first release inthe dance world, and I remember it

(44:51):
didn't go the way we wanted itto and all of a sudden, everyone
around me like just give up,like gave up on me. I mean,
was it was. It was likeextreme from day night, it was
literally like let's go go go,let's do this, let's do that.
You know we're gonna do this,We're gonna do that, and then boom,
the record didn't do what we wantedit to do. We didn't.

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You know, it doesn't mean therecord wasn't good. We just a lot
of these things are really about yougotta have the right team, you gotta
have the right strategy. And Ididn't know what I know now and obviously
have the relationships that I have nowat radio and with everyone that you need,
you need their support. So Iwent into it not knowing anything,
and the record didn't go where wewanted it to go, and then everyone

(45:37):
around me just like ditched me.And it was really depressing for me because
I just felt like, oh mygod, like you guys just gave up,
like that was it. And Ifelt lost and really alone because I
didn't I just sort of moved toLa. I didn't know anyone, and
that was really sad, and Iwas struggling back then, and I remember

(45:58):
being so depressed. Actually, Ifell into some depression because I had no
one I know what to do.And now I'm like, okay, everyone's
just you know, given up onme. And I remember walking around the
I think I was around Running Canyonarea, just going for a hike,
and something inside of me in thatmoment, I was so depressed and I

(46:20):
was like, all right, it'stime to wrap it up and pack up
and go home. And I rememberI even had to move and go to
this shitty place. And I hada shitty roommate and she was a widow,
and you know, I was justalways the nice Australian girl. And
then after a while, I waslike, you know what, I'm fucking
sick of this shit. Like I'malways, you know, trying to be

(46:40):
nice, trying this, trying that, and I'm literally just getting you know,
just people can be very aggressive herein the US. So I was
just like, you know, it'stime for me to fight back, like
and so I left that place.I literally had nothing in my bank account.
And I remember I was walking aroundthe area and I found this little

(47:00):
studio apartment and I just walked inone day and I said to the lady,
I said, this is all Ihave. I really want this studio
apartment. I'll make the money andi'll give it to you for the next
buff. Can you please just letme have it. I don't have any
references or whatever. Can I getthe slaves? She really liked me.
You was wishing on a star bassand you wished on the star I did.

(47:20):
I just was fully transparent. Isaid, this is my situation and
if you don't accept me, I'mgonna go home till straight So it's so
you were just straight up you justwas like, it's either this or Australia.
It's either this or Vassi. Realquick, let me say something because
sometimes you guys got to go withthat Plan A and not that plan be.
Put a win in the channel yellowgreereal quick, and I am Vassie

(47:40):
can agree with this because when yougot a vision and you want to do
some shit, you're gonna get itdone. You're not gonna let nobody tell
you it's not possible or turn away. You're gonna want to go in with
that Plan A. You're gonna wantto go in with the first thing.
She's like, man, it's heto this. So I'm going all the
way over there back overseas. Youknow what I'm saying, And like you
know, so sometimes you got toput that in the universe, like yo,

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this is what I want to doit, this is the plan are
it's not going to be a PlanB. So VASTI I love it and
continue because I just really wanted themto really understand that, like put the
Plan A first and go hard withit if you really see that in your
vision. So that's interesting that yousay that about the Plan A thing,
because that I was just going tosay that, And I don't know if
you because I talk about that allthe time as part of my It's the

(48:29):
segue from rejections, you know,our redirections that you stick to Plan A.
When people ask you what's your PlanB, you say you don't have
one, because once you have aPlan B, you're compromising Plan A already.
And at this point I was leaningtowards my Plan B, which was
to pack up and go home.And then I took one last shot and
the universe was like, okay,cool, we're going to give this to

(48:50):
you. And I'm telling you,guys, within two a month to two
months. As soon as I didthat, this woman was like, cool,
you know, you seem like anice girl. Let me give you
a chance. And I moved inthe universe rewarded me, and I was
getting like money was coming in fromleft, right and center. I was
getting placements and yeah, it wascrazy. So I was getting all sorts

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of TV and film placements and thingswere just taking off, and it was
crazy, and I was just like, wow, I was about to go
home and pack up. Had Inot stuck it out and you know,
been living off ram and packet noodlesand stuff. Here I am two months
later. I literally have all thismoney, you know, and I wouldn't
have made that if I didn't stickaround. And I was, you know,

(49:35):
getting TV campaigns and just all thisamazing stuff, and it was the
beginning of a new era for me. The momentum just started from there.
So that was really I would saythat was my biggest giving up point.
I did have some other moments inlife where I just felt like, oh,
sometimes I just want to give up. And even now, sometimes you

(49:55):
get frustrated with the business and thepolitics of it. It's really the polic
of the business. You know.Look, it's a competitive business. Guys,
like you see how it is.I mean you go on Instagram and
you know, you see even theGrammys as an example, like everyone was
like, oh my god. Youknow, we're so tired of seeing the
same people get awards and the sameshit, you know, and it's become

(50:15):
so hard now literally people have eightymillion, you know, one hundred million
follows on Instagram. You just it'sso hard to compete with all that.
All I can say is that,you know, success comes in many many
ways. So you know, there'snot You're not everyone's going to be the
Beyonce of the Taylor Swift and thatis what it is. But like I

(50:35):
said, you know, these peoplehave started from a very very young age
and they were very fortunate because theywere born into families and the entertainment business.
So you know, let's not holdit against them. Like they literally
are talented and they were just borninto that. So it would be nice
if you had a father that's amusic lawyer, or a mum that's a
you know, an agent, orall these things that help, which do

(50:57):
help. You also have to havethe talent, but definitely it definitely helps.
It's a catalyst. Just don't giveup. Just stick it out.
You're going to know when it's timeto move on. I want to say
it's time. You would give up. When it's time to move on,
don't look at it as give upgiving up. You could you could re
uh phrase it as you know,retiring or like you know, moving in

(51:20):
a new direction, but never seeit as a surrendering your Like that's it.
Like, just that's what I wouldsay. Just really stick to plan
A. You got to make planA work that's it. That's not look
make plenty of a work and ifyou guys want to make plan in man,

(51:43):
if you're all enjoying this, Igot one last question for if you
all ready to listen. If y'allbeen enjoying this, put some fire in
the chat, y'all know what wedo. Get back up in the chat
for this, share the room outagain, pick some more people in here.
I got one more question from Basca. Itsa its one over an hour.
I told her were only gonna dowith hours. Reaching the hour mark

(52:05):
right now, right, So we'regonna let Vassi go short. But after
I ask my next question, ifAsie has enough time for anybody's question,
I'm gonna keep the floor open forthe floor a little while until she gotta
get body. But it was onlysupposed to be an hour. She came
in to share the energy. It'sbeen nothing but heat. Everybody pulled up.
Shout out though you all media mentoryou are, everybody always pulls up

(52:27):
when you have a fire. Gety'all always support, come through, get
the knowledge. It's heat and hereI appreciate you guys. Nothing but fire.
My last question for you, Vassiebefore I open the floor is,
can you share what rejections and redirectionstruly means to you? Today? You
did it, you went in,you showed us about different times, different

(52:47):
you know, your career. Butwhat does this truly mean to you overall
this whole room? You know,rejections, redirections, what does it mean
to you? Over to you?Vassie? Last question from Stackpack let's go
oh by the way, Stack,I gotta say, you know, I
love how you guys are so goodat this here and Australians are way more

(53:08):
laid back and we got to getwe've got to step up our game and
be a little cooler. But youguys just have the ability to say things
in a way that makes it soundso cool. And I feel like if
Australians even attempt to try and soundthat way, we just we just sound
so I mean, it just isnot cool. There's no cool factor.

(53:30):
So I just wanted to put thatout there. No, I would listen,
man, I would just say,like, seriously, rejection It's it's
literally that rejections mean redirections. Whensomeone rejects you, you have a choice
to make. Okay, you caneither sit there and feel sorry for yourself,

(53:50):
or you can take that opportunity andflip it, redirect it and take
another path. It's literally a doorshutting and another one opening. What do
you do when the door shuts.You could stay in the room, Okay,
stay there for as long as youwant, but eventually you're gonna have
to leave the room. Right,You're gonna have to go outside. You're

(54:12):
gonna get thirsty, You're gonna gethungry. You might want to go for
a walk. Something's gonna happen.No one wants to really just stay in
a room the whole time. That'swhy people don't want to go to prison,
and even then they let them outfor breaks. You want to step
out right, and by stepping outmeans you're gonna take chances. You're gonna
fail, You're gonna fall. Lotsof things are gonna happen. Shit rejections
come in all shapes and sizes.They come in your personal life, your

(54:36):
professional life, money, everything.It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.
It happens to the most successful billionaires. So just don't worry about it too
much. Feel sorry for yourself fora minute, have your little cry session
or whatever. We're all gonna we'veall been there. It all sucks.
You know. The thing is,you can't appeal to everyone. Okay,

(54:59):
not everyone one's gonna like you.Not everyone likes me, not everyone likes
my music. Not everyone thinks I'mthe coolest. Not everyone thinks I'm this,
and that's okay, Like that's totallycool. My job is here to
try to convince them otherwise. I'mhere for the fans that connect with me,
that just just relate to me.I have the same with other artists.

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There are some artists like I respectthem. I can see they put
in the work and I'm like,cool, you know, they're amazing,
but they're just not my cup oftea. It's nothing personal. It's the
same, you know, with you. Not everyone's gonna see your vision.
Not everyone's gonna think you're the nextthing. Not everyone's gonna get it.
And that's okay. But you knowwhat, sometimes the people that reject you.
And I've had this happen to me. I've had labels pass on certain

(55:44):
records, right, and then thatrecord went number one. Of course I've
ended up working with those labels onother records. So just because they rejected
one record doesn't mean they're gonna rejectall of them or the next one.
So don't burn your bridges as well. Keep them open. And also you
might have to burn a bridge hereand there, and you're going to know

(56:05):
when to do that. I've burnta couple of bridge bridges and I am
one thousand percent prout of burning thosebridges. I would never revisited that bridge.
I literally would jump off the fuckingbridge then go back to that because
there are some people that don't deservea second chance. They're toxic, and
there's just you know, you've gotto surround yourself with good people, positive

(56:29):
people, people that just believe inyou. That's it, and so that's
really what rejections are about. It'sjust an opportunity for you to do something
else. Okay, it isn't likethe guaranteed recipe to success, but it's
how you see it. And ifyou're someone that believes in the universe and

(56:49):
laws of attraction like I do.And you know, some people might think
this is corny, but I've doneit, and I encourage you if you
have it, it's something worth doingat least once in your life. Make
a vision board. You know what, I'm saying, or write something out
like once you put something to paper, like with a pen. I'm not
talking about just typing it. Geta pen and write a letter of this

(57:10):
to yourself and just say, youknow, dear universe, I really want
this. You know, this iswhat I don't want in life. This
is what I try to always seethings. You know how they say the
cup is half empty, not halffull, like half empty that philosophy.
Look at the cup is half full. So you know, what you put
out there in the universe, itmanifests. So that's why vision boards and

(57:35):
writing it out in the way yousay, things really matter because they manifest.
And all these successful people that areout there living their dreams, right,
it all started from an idea.You know, they weren't born to
be or Oprah wasn't born Oprah,right, I know, she's like an
extreme an example, but it isa great example because the woman literally came

(57:57):
from nothing and an abusive environment andit's just crazy, like it's baffling.
And this is the country, thisis like the best country in the world
to achieve that level of success.Like it's literally the land of the dreams.
And most of you are from here, like I literally came to this
country because you can. This isthe land of the dreams. You come
here to pursue your dreams, andit's so hard to make it. If

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I can make it and I'm notfrom here, and make it at a
level that I'm happy with, youknow, Like I said, not everyone's
going to be the next you know, Taylor Swift of a Gaga, but
there are people that are going tobe that, and that's great. There's
so many areas of success. Soagain, please don't be don't be like
discouraged by rejection. Just see itas a blessing in disguise. You might

(58:45):
not see it now, but it'sgoing to make sense in a few weeks
from now, a few months fromnow, maybe a year or two from
now, it will totally make sensethe rejection. If you guys enjoyed this
interview with and this is going righton the Stackpack podcast, I'll send you

(59:08):
the link Vassi I have, Andreasend you the Lincoln the alright, heard
radio, Spotify, all platforms,Google podcasts, right straight from clubhouse.
So this was just nothing but heat, nothing but you guys enjoyed this get
up in the chat asam Oh mygod. This was one of the bet
y'all told y'all as he was comingthrough. This is thank you for this

(59:30):
Andrea for you know, teaming usup, bringing her own clubhouse. Right.
She could have been anywhere else orshe came on here and helped us
out up here, give us somegems, kicking ass. This is what
I love. Right, Look,look, Vassi, do you have any
more any any final time for anyfinal questions? If I want to keep
the floor open for a little while, you have any you want to take

(59:52):
a few questions? Maybe two orthree? Yeah for sure, absolutely,
Yeah, go for it. Leavethe floor open. Anybody got any questions
for Vassi before I get up outhere, because you know I'm about to
play this ts THRO record. What'son y'all? Who got some questions?
I need like two or three andthen well let's go, let's go.

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Sha Hey, Vassie, what anamazing interview. I love your I love
your story. I love that you'recoming from a real place. I love
that you're sharing a part of you. My question for you is being the
first woman to win the Icon Award, Like, what does that pressure feel
like? Do you feel like theindustry has changed? Since you won that

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award, do you feel like morepeople support you and they're in your circle?
But what does that pressure look likefor you? I think that And
that's such a great question, andthank you for asking that. That's that's
an incredible question, I think,because you're right, this is this is
the trap that a lot of artistsfall into. What happens is you're only

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as good as your last success,right, and so this is I think
what happens. And again, whygoing back to what I was saying,
really successful people still face rejections.Their rejections are a little different to the
rejections that people are facing when they'refirst starting or trying to make it,
and obviously not at that level,but there's still rejections. It's all.
It's all about perspective, you know, and being in context. Because if

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their last record had a billion streams, right, like say my record with
David Ghetto Bad it's had over abillion, nearly two billion streams, now
like it's I know, but it'sso hard to it's hard to get records
like that. Let me tell you, if I never have a record like

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that in my lifetime, again,at least I can ticket and just say
I did it once, because it'sit's a very unique situation to have a
record do that big, and there'sthere's definitely a few other artists that have
had that, for sure. Butmy point is is that it's so hard
to top that. And obviously,you know, when look at the Grammys
for example, in that category,like I was talking about, those records

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were huge, you know, numberone and over several countries. It's so
hard now for the next release totop it. And so I think that's
what happens to artists because you feelthe pressure. And so when your last
record went number one, which mylast record went number one, I now
I'm currently number four across the countryat dance radio with my current single Crazy,

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and I am nervous. You know, I need this to go number
one, because then if it doesn'tgo number one, I feel like a
letdown. I feel like I've letdown my team. And then I feel
like, you know, just tokeep it real that I'm like, oh
man, this record wasn't good enoughor something, and it's not the case,
but I'd fall into the same trapas everyone does. And then when

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you win an award like that,you're then immediately you know, you're put
on the map in a certain way. You're under the I don't want to
say microscope, but there's a lotmore pressure to deliver, especially when you're
doing new deals with teams and peopleare excited to work with you, because
then they're like, oh, wow, you know, we're going to do
this project with so and so andthis and this comes with it. So
now there's expectations. And so thenext release you do, you you know,

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and you have a team investing inyou, right, so they're putting
money down and they're doing all thisthing, and you really want everything to
go so well, not just foryourself as an artist, so that you
can feel good about yourself and belike, Yay, I did it again.
That's so cool. Yeah no,because you're like, shit, man,
now I have all these people thathave invested in me and are relying

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on me, and I want tomake everyone happy and you know, keep
just keep everyone like content and thatit was worth doing it. So this
is why the pressure never stops,and it's hard, and it's the vicious
cycle. I think that a lotof artists get into and that's why they
continue to face rejections because the realityis not every single record is going to

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be you know this or that,and there's going to be some that might
not do as well or some likethis, And that's just how it is.
And so that's why I'm telling youthe rejection thing. It never stops.
You'll keep facing it. You know. Oh, man, Shay,
did that answer your question right there? That one was crazy like that real

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quick. Let's see who's still listening. Man, get up in the chat.
See beloved about to come through someone. Let him ask a question,
but put a heart in the chatif you feel like that answers Shaye's question.
For like Vassie goes into detail,right, she could have been doing
anything else. Man, she diveinto these questions. So ping this room
up and shirre this room up whileshe's here. Let's get up to at
least twenty five. Man, Ineed at least twenty five. End it

(01:04:44):
up a little bit, share itagain, share it up, let's go
Beloved over to you, brother,Let's go man. It was a vesting
nice to meet you. Shout outto Stack and Andre for setting us up.
Much love to everybody. So Iguess my question would be, prior
to getting into the music industry,did you have certain artists because you talked

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a little bit about manifestation, whichI also love. So did you have
certain artists that you might have hadon your vision board at one point?
And if so, how did itfeel to finally meet those people. Yes,
great question, and I'm so gladyou touched on that, because sometimes
when I bring that up, Ialways feel like, oh my god,
am I sounding like that corny youknow, like spiritual person. We love

(01:05:29):
spirituality? Here, put it hardin the chat. I'm I'm gonna have
I'm gonna have, lindsay, Isay a few words too, we love
spirituality. Here, I put afire moji in the chat. Nope,
you not that corny person, Vassie, Nope, we all believe it.
I believe it. I believe inall that stuff. So get up in
the chat, blow it up andshare this room out. Y'all know what
it is. Vassi over to you. Let's go. Yeah, because here's

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the thing. You know, I'mI'm a realist as well, like I'm
a little bit in the middle,and I have faith and all this stuff.
But I'm not like hardcore this orhardcore that. But when I was
going through the stuff, I wastelling you guys about and just really struggling
to figure it out because, likeI said, I came here and it
was really hard. You know,when you're no one and you don't have
anyone, you don't have family.I didn't have any family. I didn't

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have like a partner. I wasreally on my own and I was so
vulnerable and exposed. And then Ifelt completely just abandoned by the people because
my record didn't do well. Ironically, I ended up then doing very very
well, and it's just interesting,you know, how things happen. But
my point is is that I basicallyI got a board to the I just

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got a I went to the artsupply store and got one of those boards.
I cut out stuff it wasn't Ibasically googled all the images, right
because you know magazines, I mean, when you're looking for something specific.
So I went on Google images.I put specifically, say, I I
had put David Ghettter I hadn't workedwith him yet. I had put Afrojack
in there. Actually I put agrammy, I put Number one billboard.

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I put several other things. Ieven put, you know, stuff about
personal life. I put something aboutbuying a place. I put something about
money. I put something about health. You have a jet on you had
a jet. I had a jet, but my jet wasn't. I didn't
end up owning a jet, butI'd been in private jets several times,
so that's cool. At least Manifestationmanifested. Here I manifested. But just

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no one really wants to have ajet. The only people that can really
afford jets because they're fucking expensive.And I know it's Yester owns his jet,
but I'm telling you, like evenrich people don't own jets because it's
like they pay for the gas andstuff. But right, I know,
and I'm so old school I wouldprefer to spend that money on you know,
Like I'm really old school. Soit's like, if I've got money,

(01:07:50):
I think sort of like my father, like I would put that in
I would invest. I want assets, I want something tangible, you know.
So anyways, so I made board, and about seventy five percent what
I put on this board came truebecause at the time when I made the
board, so I googled everything.I put all the images in a folder
and I went and printed them atKinko's. I cut everything out. I

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know, this sounds like I'm sucha dog. I glued it and pasted
it, and I put this boardup in my bedroom. I was living
in this you know, shitty apartmentbasically not even like studio place in freaking
Hollywood, dumpy with like widow neighbors, some wido chick that was doing weird
stuff that we could all seecause shewould always leave her window open. Oh
my god, it was such amess. So I have this board up

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and everything about seventy five percent cametrue. I had put on there the
number one stuff. I ended uphaving eight number ones. You know.
I put on the Afrojack thing atthe time. I really wanted to work
with him because I was a bigfan of that record. I ended up
having a record with him. Notonly did I have a record with him,
it was Bussy and Afrojack and itwent number one. Manifestation is real

(01:09:00):
vasty, real quick. Because Iknow you said something about you know,
being a door again. It sayssomething about, you know, you don't
want to be that person, butwe all believe in that. And I
want my sister Lindseyah to give youa few words because I practiced that in
her room every morning. Digitally right, and I know and she and I
know she's over there fired up.Because we I do vision boards. I
glue them together. I don't carewhere we put them up. It doesn't

(01:09:23):
matter because I got to see whereI'm going. It's a direction. So
Lindzaya, if you're around, sister, can you please, you know,
charming a few words about what youheard so far. I know you just
got here. We had a fireroom, but you know Vassie's been in
here laying it down with us.Let's go, sister. Oh Vassie,
I have foamo for missing out onyour brilliance. And it's why I'm always
so grateful that the replays are onbecause you just spoke a word that is

(01:09:45):
actually stack. You may be unawareof this, but the Daily Self Love
Circle, which it's our three yearanniversary on March sixth, three years,
three years, five days a week, this beautiful community that we have been
a whole in space for daily selflove and our first name actually for the
first nearly two years was Daily ManifestationRoom. And my sweet sister Shay Vassie

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that's right there underneath you, andsweet beloved too. He's often in and
many other people Queen on the stage, and many others in this room.
And Shay specifically has actually been tomy house, stayed at my home and
we co host retreats, and shehas been in my bedroom where she has
had her eyes on my vision board. And so I wanted to, you

(01:10:30):
know, I really wanted to comein and commend you, because sometimes when
people make you know, and getto the level of success that you have
so eloquently claimed as your own,they will leave, you know, kind
of gatekeep this really powerful information becauseyou know, we also the law of
attraction is such a real thing,and sometimes they may feel a little woo

(01:10:51):
or that others may judge them andnot take them as serious. And so
I really want to commend you becauseit's a really big deal that someone that
has found your level of success sayslisten. I printed off copies at Kinko's.
I glued those babies to a toa poster board, and I put
it up where I can see it. Like, when you have reached the

(01:11:12):
level of success that you have andyou've been able to, you know,
fulfill so many of those dreams.I really want to say thank you for
reminding all of us that we cando the same damn thing that we can,
you know, put the visual representationof where we desire to be in
front of our eyeballs so that wesee it regularly. So, you know,

(01:11:32):
Vatti, I do have a question. And again I'm going to go
back and listen to this replace superexcited to follow along with your journey and
support the whole thing and the mediamentors. We really are about lifting each
other up in the you know,highest vibrational way, and so we are
a family of support through and through. And so my question with the vision
board, is there any particular thingthat you do in regards to how you

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approach it or what it is youknow, how often you change it or
how you update it. I doa thing called a living vision board.
I've you know, hosted and taughtthem yearly, and so I always think
it's so intriguing to see how others, especially someone that again has chased her
dreams so relentlessly, like, whatare some of those inside secret? Sister?

(01:12:18):
Please tell us what what are someof those things you do when it
comes to your vision boarding. Thankyou so much. That was really beautiful
what you said, and you know, thank you for I mean comforting me
because I think the thing is isthat when you're when you're especially when you're
alone, you your safe place iswhen you come home to your little safe

(01:12:42):
nest, whatever it is, evenif it's a little studio, whatever you
can afford it, right, Andthat was all I had at the time.
So anytime I would leave my studio, I was out into the into
the wild, and anyone could,you know, exploit me, take advantage
of me. And that's really howI felt there for a while, because
I was this young, naive,you know, girl from Australia, and
I don't have family, and it'snot like I can call my family to

(01:13:04):
be like, what should I do? They don't know anything about the music
business. So I felt really alone, and so my little safety net was
really making something tangible for myself thatI could have in my bedroom that I
could look at and feel good aboutmyself and feel safe and just be like,
one day, I really want thatand I'm going to get that,
even though at the time I wasbeing told that I can't and I never

(01:13:27):
will, and so I just Imean, it's so cool because with vision
boards, you can do whatever.Man, you can make it so personal.
If you really literally want to finda picture of, say your future
wife or a husband, even likeput career to the site. You take
a picture of what you would like, you know, if you want to
have someone that's Asian or someone that'swhite, someone that's black, or someone

(01:13:48):
that's from your same heritage, andthen you could put anything a church or
a play, a destination, likeI mean, this is a shit that
can really become real and you putdown I mean I put down things.
I put down a Grammy, butI ended up being a governor on the
board for a Grammy and a Grammycommittee and I served for a couple of

(01:14:11):
years on it. And I stilllove the Grammys. And I went many
many years in a row and itwas fun, but it's very political.
So I stepped away just for aminute, not to say that I've given
up on that, but as youguys know, you know, it's just
really hard. But look at Kylie, she just want her first Grammy after
thirty years. So anyways, butI put on all these things, and

(01:14:32):
so much stuff came true. Icouldn't believe it. Now I haven't revisited
my vision board, and after talkinga little bit about it, now I
was like, shit, why haven'tI done I've done a new vision board
because okay, I've had success.I haven't really thought about it, but
I'm like, there's new things thatI want. Maybe I should do one.
I did do a letter though.I wrote a letter to myself and

(01:14:54):
I mailed it to myself because Iread the book The Secrets, and I
watched the documentary and I read thisother thing and it was like, if
you write a letter to yourself andyou put what you want in a letter
and send it to yourself, justmail it, but don't open up.
You guys don't want to chat.Put a one in the chat, y'all
feel like that's good. I haveactually experienced. No, I just I
did that and I wrote certain thingsin that letter, and I got really

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deep because I was going through somethings in my personal life as well,
and it was just heavy and itwas like a lot. And look,
if you if you're a family herein this country, it's wonderful because you've
got people you know that you trust, that you can turn to. But
when you're here on your own andyou don't have those things, it's even
harder in a way because you justyou get lost and you just you're like,

(01:15:36):
shit, what do I do?You know? But anyways, I
figured it out. I stuck itout. It was worth it, and
I'm so happy, you know,with where I'm at in my life,
even though there's still always challenges toovercome. And like I said, the
rejections don't stop. They're like different, right, They're a bit more like
like even this morning, I hada conference call at eight thirty and I

(01:15:58):
actually don't like, I like,I don't even like to get up that
early. But I remember being onthe phone with four other people and you
know that they're older, they're abusinessmen, you know, they get up
early, and I was like,you know, getting up early is good.
Actually you get a lot done.Like before ten am I finished,
I've finished like three conference calls andpotentially we've closed a new deal for something

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that I'm really excited about, youknow, and I want to I don't
want to jinx. I can't talkabout it yet. But that came from
a place of potentially being I wouldn'tsay rejected, but not getting what you
would need to make something happen,and then exploring another situation as a result
of that, and then finding anew home for that situation that's actually very

(01:16:42):
unique and exciting. So my pointis is that yeah, you can.
There's just so there's no black andwhite way to do it. And honestly,
like if it's something that you don'tthink you're into, don't worry about
it, Like you don't have to. This is just a tool. It's
something to do it like reinforces whatyou want. And I feel like once
you put it on paper or youput it on a board, it also
you have to sit down and reallysay what do I want ship, you

(01:17:06):
know, and you just put itdown, you know, and and it's
cool. You just kind of whetherit happens or not. I think it's
just worth it. I mean,you're gonna end up putting a few hours
of your time into it. That'sinvesting in yourself. And whatever helps listen,
whatever helps to keep you feeling aliveand keep the spark you know,
lit the flame lit and keep yougoing, just do it, whether it's

(01:17:29):
that or going to the gym orgoing for a walk or you know.
Health and wellness is a really importantpart of all this too, which we
didn't even talk about. But Imean I'm a super nerd when it comes
to health and wellness, and Itake I have my MATCHA, I take
my supplements. I you know,I do all these weird things that a
lot of people. That's awesome,and you have to because you know your

(01:17:55):
mind and your body. Man itstarts with your health first, and that
can affect so many things. SoI'm into all of that. And that's
like a whole other podcast because that'llget Yeah, well, you definitely scheduled
you to come back in too,Vassi. It's something that you said that
stuck out to me that I want, you know, you guys to realize,
and I want my system, MissManifest, to come in Miss Manifest

(01:18:16):
Flash and Mike if you're there,if you're around, real quick, all
right, So listen, you saidsomething about writing things down and I like
to do that, right, andmy system is Manifest, likes to do
that too. I love to writethis stuff down because when you write it
down, you call it into theuniverse. And she does something VASTI like
a lot of manifestation journals for alot of people. She knows, you

(01:18:41):
know what I'm saying. She givesthose out and tells people what to do.
So SIS over to you real quick, can you tell her you know
about writing things down and how muchthat means to you, because that's,
Oh my goodness, this is sopowerful. Congratulations and all your success that,
Oh my goodness, this is soamazing. I pray you'll joined this
room because you know, I lovemanifest and her whole life was manifested and

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she was intentional. So I lovethat she wrote a letter to herself.
Everybody knows like that. When Ispeak about manifestation, I talk about a
hundred percent faith. She had awhole bunch of faith. She had one
hundred percent faith. Right. Ittakes a lot to go somewhere and you
don't know nobody and they write aletter to yourself and expect it to happen.
Right, So I thought that waspowerful. I believe highly in scripting.
Right. Scripting is the form ofwriting. That's what we call it

(01:19:23):
in the manifestation world. Right,writing it down, putting in a present
sense, if you pay attention,she had the vision board, she wrote
it down, she took the action. I talk about these things all the
time, and she's living proof thatthis stuff works. So I thought that
was powerful that she even did thisroom, or even thought to even share
the pieces of like vision boarding.People think that's wool, right, People
think like, oh, you putpictures on a board and it comes true.

(01:19:44):
Is that yes? And she hasall these accolades that proves it.
So congratulations to you, queen forsharing your story and allowing the universe to
provide for you and having all ofthat faith because a lot of people don't
have faith. So when you hearother women and men right talk about this,
I love this because it brings thewhole synergy together. So we have
to do these things. This iskey to having success in manifestation. So

(01:20:06):
Fassie, keep doing your thing.Congratulations and I love the fact that you're
working with Stack to bring this energyto the media mentors room because I feel
like manifestation is talked about but notas much as it should be because it's
important to have this and anything thatyou do, So keep going hard.
Thank you everybody for being here.Make sure y'all share it off the room
and show a massive love. Let'skeep this energy up and high vibrational.

(01:20:28):
Let's go it, ye young,let's go manifestation. Listen. I don't
know if Vassi gotta go, butwe got we got one. We got
we got time for one more questionand then I'm gonna give it back to
Vassie to give her outtake give itback to Andrea. I need one more
question, put a wonder chat.Thank you for that mismanifest right, and

(01:20:48):
now get it right. I needone more Who's that that, Jtah,
that's my brother JT. Look JT, assuming you my brother, looks.
Shout up to Jay. He's beenpulling up helping me build this media mentorship
community. And make sure you guysgo over the funk talks too, because
we always having fire ass conversations aboutanything we want to do right we have

(01:21:11):
on our way. Look, JT, over to you, bro, this
is the last question, and thenI'm playing that TST with Vassie and I'm
out of here, so over toyou, j T. And then I'm
gonna patch it Andrea and Bassie.Let's go absolutely man, Yeah, sache
out of me and I just gotout and I told you I will get
here if I had time, andI had time, is it me or

(01:21:44):
no? No, That's what I'msaying. You already know that j T.
Wait, hold on, Vassi isnot on stage either, so the
ad she probably did or swipe leftor something. I had a phone called
what happened? Nah? She probablyAndrea text her and send her the room
again. All you gotta do ishit the arrow right there and share and

(01:22:04):
share the room to her again.It'll be okay, Okay, you're there.
I'm so sorry. I think Imissed the question. JT is about
to ask you a question right now. We're right here, j Over.
Yeah, I had a phone call. Sorry about that. So listen,

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man, we had media mentor Man, we need to bring the bombs up.
We about in the room here,but you know we are fasty shout
out the stack with the pack forbringing this man, bringing us all here
together. And uh, man,I love what I've been hearing thus far
is very powerful. Vassie. Weall appreciate you, and uh we're Lindsay

(01:22:48):
at Lindsay. Oh my god,Linsea, you've been dropping gems. Man.
I we just appreciate you. Shay. That was a fantastic question,
mismanifest. I'm always loving you energyall my people in the place to be.
Man, I'm loving y'all. Godbless y'all. Wish you all the
best. Vassie, I missed majorityof your Q and A and I apologize,

(01:23:10):
but I wanted to ask you thisquestion and I wanted to end off
strong. Right, So, whenyou look at all the things that you
accomplish in the music industry, right, what makes you different from any other
artists? Is it? Your sound? Is the way you dress? What
makes you different from every other artistin your genre? So many things.

(01:23:30):
I mean, first of all,I'm in a boys club. We tapped
on this earlier, right, andit's a very boys genre. It's very
DJ driven. I'm not a DJ. I'm not a boy. I am
a woman. I'm an artist.I definitely don't look the part. You
know, I'm a little in theminority, and my sound is unique,

(01:23:56):
it's different, and so I am, you know, very different, unique,
and I think that's what's worked inmy favor, but also has worked
against me too, And I thinkthat's always, you know, that's going
to be the case. But I'mokay with my sound and I'm just it's
just me. I don't ever thinkof it's very just authentically me. And

(01:24:17):
there's a lot of really cool,you know, unique artists out there,
but I think that's been my specialingredient, you know, for success.
It's really just going back to whatwe talked about earlier, it's really about
like like I said to you guys, it's so this is just simple.
I came here. I didn't knowanyone, Okay, I came to this

(01:24:40):
country. I didn't have friends,I didn't have any family. I grew
up in a little remote part ofAustralia. Literally we had nothing there.
I wasn't exposed to anything. DidI come here a little naive? Probably?
Yes. It would have helped ifI was a little more aware of
things and I could have protected myselfa little better because when I us came
to the country, you know,like we were talking about, a lot

(01:25:03):
of people want to exploit you whenyou're young and you're talented, and you're
attractive and all these things, andthey're like, oh wow, you know
what I mean. And sometimes Iwant to exploit you for good reasons.
It's not always bad stuff. Butthe bottom line is that you know you
don't You've got to figure things out. Like everyone has their own journey and
it's all unique. The reason I'mtelling you this is that I just if

(01:25:24):
there's one thing I want us toall take away from this podcast is that
take my example and my story asa tool to use for inspiration, to
fuel you, you know, inyour life for what you want to do,
what you're passionate about. I'm onmy journey and I'm going to continue
to do my thing, you know. But you guys have all joined for

(01:25:46):
a reason, you know, andthat is to just hear something Like I
wanted to tune into things and pastor listen to something or read about someone's
story so that I could take somethingfrom it and make it tangible and apply
it my life. Take whatever Itook today that appealed to you the most
and use it. If it's literallyjust one thing out of what we talked

(01:26:06):
about, just use that. It'sawesome and collect bits and pieces from everything
you get exposed to that you likethat resonates with you, and use it
in your life to succeed and dothe things that you want to do in
your life that will make you happy. And that's ultimately the goal out of
this. You just need to feelhappy. You don't have to have millions

(01:26:29):
of followers. You don't have tothis, You don't have to do that.
Do what makes you happy, Dowhat obviously can you know bring you
in the bread and butter and doit at however that makes you happy.
So just stay authentic to yourself.It's so rewarding at the end of the
day. I'm telling you. Itmay take a little longer, you know,
and you are going to face youknow, rejections along the way,

(01:26:51):
but don't worry about it. It'sjust all part of the story. You
know. To be successful, youneed to fail. I mean, any
successful person has had their fair shareof fails. So and everything starts with
the seed. Even Jeff Bessel's Amazonhe started he had that idea back in
the day and everyone was like what, Okay, it helped. He probably

(01:27:12):
had some money to stop that idea. But my point is is that it
was an idea and it's it's youthat feels the idea. So you are
your best tool. Seriously and reachin for yourself. Do whatever it takes
to make yourself feel good and comfortable, whatever that is, just do it.
There's no right or wrong, there'sno black or white way of doing

(01:27:32):
this. It's the way you wantto do it. Wooit look JT.
That was a final strong question thatenjoyed ass he coming through today. If
y'all enjoyed this interview, I'm gonnagive it to Andrea. Let it get
some final words in, right,because if it wasn't for Andrea, you

(01:27:55):
know, I would have never knownThatazzi, You would never gave him a
media mentor shout out Andre. Right, this has been a fire conversation.
Pull it up in the chat ifyou guys enjoyed this. Andrea over to
you for any final words before Itake us out of here. Vassie,
we appreciate you media mentorship. Wecan't wait to collaborate with you again.
Hear some more stories. Maybe we'lldo some music stuff again and inside this

(01:28:16):
club and we'll set it up withAndrea and you and it'll be nothing but
fire this. So Andrea over toyou for any final words, and then
I'm taking us out. Let's go. I just want to say thank you
so much, Vassie. You know, I have so much love for you
as a person and as a womanand a creator. So I'm just so

(01:28:36):
grateful that you decided to share yourtime with us. And you know,
the thing I want to also highlightis that these people here in this room
their family, you know, andI want to encourage everyone to go show
Vassie some love, connect with herbecause it really is about community. That's

(01:28:59):
what brought her here today, andthe energy is always right. You know.
I knew that it would be agreat connection for everyone for her as
well. So please support because,like Sach always says, support past nothing,
but it means everything. And Vassie, I just want to share some
love with you and tell you howmuch I appreciate you, so thank you

(01:29:20):
for joining us. Ah, that'sso sweet. Thank you, Andrea.
I love you too, And youknow you've been so amazing with me over
the years. We've worked together ondifferent things and we connected from the get
go. And you can tell whensomeone's really down to earth, genuine and
real and the loyalties there, andthat's another good thing. I mean,

(01:29:42):
there's so many things we could havetalked about, you guys, and so
many stories and examples I could giveyou, and of course, you know,
without disclosing too much to protect myprivacy too, But you know,
loyalty is important, staying true andloyal to people that are good to you
like do that. But yeah,don't forget you guys. We're only here
for a short period of time,and I think having lost my father at

(01:30:04):
a young age, I realize that, and so sometimes if you get a
bit down about life, like Iknow, I can talk about my stories,
but I'm here for you guys too, And this is you know,
sharing so that I can help youguys somehow, because you know, I've
had people that help me. Sohowever my talk can motivate you is the

(01:30:25):
goal, right, I want totry to motivate you guys. But just
remember like we're all going to dieone day. I mean, I hate
to be so literal, but weliterally are. And sometimes it can happen
like that. And I'm not tryingto say that to be a buzzkiller,
but all I'm saying is that wejust have our journey here is a short
one. To just go for itand don't beat yourself up if shit doesn't

(01:30:45):
happen. And just I feel likeonce you change your attitude a little bit,
like it's just kind of like,oh, well, you know,
it is what it is. Youknow, next things start changing up energetically
and they just kind of, Idon't know, they just flow in a
different way. So give that ago too, and just yeah, just
get bad. But anyways, I'mhere for you guys, so please,
if you are Instagram, you know, just make sure to follow me in

(01:31:08):
DM because some of the follows,some of the dms I don't see even
in the junk folder. I don'tknow, it's so weird with Instagram.
But I'm happy to, like,you know, answer more questions or just
whatever, be there to support youguys, or listen to something or anything.
I'm of court Vassi. You know, we gonna do We're gonna We're
gonna schedule you back in here andsee we can do some more different topics

(01:31:29):
so you can expand on different thingsthere, you know, in your industry
that can help out more people.So I'll have Andrea contact you and see
when you're next free again, sowe can schedule you out another you know,
room where you can come and helpus run this over here and it'll
be great and support your new singlethat's coming out. So you got some
new stuff that's coming out, soit'll be great for you to come back
and show us the new stuff andtalk about some other things as well,

(01:31:51):
So I have Andrea set that upwith you. How does that sound,
Rassie? Of course, absolutely,my pleasure to you guys. It was
really fun and I really everyone's energyit was so beautiful. So for me,
I'm walking away from this too,going, oh man, I feel
the vibes and I feel you know, people's frustration and struggles too, and
we're all here for one another.So totally all right, y'all know what

(01:32:15):
it is. Put a one inthe chat of y'all enjoy that. See,
I'm taking us out now, wantto y'all know what it is,
but me all right, that's wedid great. Put a fire emoji in
the chat. Let's go step stepman. Vassie came through this spot and

(01:33:34):
killed it. Oh my god,Andrea, shout outs to you, Shout
out to the whole media mentorship community. You're gonna be going in tomorrow again,
right, shout out the fast shouteverybody else here. But tomorrow we're
gonna be going in again. Right. We're gonna be talking about this metaphone
service with my brother for Sean.I cannot wait to talk about this with

(01:33:57):
you guys. I cannot wait todie then with you guys. And they
will also be talking about a digitaldetox with Nick and they were coming in
with Lynn say yo with a Fridayroom waiting. We're gonna load it up,
can't wait to load it up withyou. Let's go that title.
Now, we're going all the wayin next week, we're gonna have a
bunch of surprises, a bunch ofgreat things going on. But shall that's
the VASTI today. Make sure y'allgoing to vassimusic dot com. She could

(01:34:23):
have been doing anything else, butshe came to the media mentorship community.
If you guys enjoyed this, getin the chat, show me something real
quick. You know what I'm saying, Get up in the chat or glow
Massie gonna tag her on Instagram,say yo, you did great in the
media mentorship community today because I likeI told y'all she could have been anywhere

(01:34:43):
else and the fact that she cameby is just epic legendary. Andre you
already know we're gonna be networking,right We're gonna be networking. She's sending
me over her number right now.See, y'all will give me some more
media work press. Y'all know I'mgoing to the TV. I'm not playing
no games. So shout outs tothe VASSI, Shout out to the media
mentorship commuity. Shot us at everybodythat's supported today. I've seen everybody.

(01:35:05):
I seen you guys coming through strong. Shout us to image, Shout us
to Queen, shout us to shamemy Sis, Miss Manifest, Darren Dante,
what's good? Crypto always supporting JTmy Sister Lin Saying, Trisha,
Beth, Jacob, Gavin, Patience, Minie Richard, mss M Heidi,

(01:35:27):
Rihanna, Fetti Mary Uncle. Lookwe went in today. It was a
fire ass room. Yo. Y'allgonna see this right on Stackpack podcast And
if you want to get in contactwith me, go to book with stack
dot com so we can take theserelationships to the next level. Book with
stack dot com. Let's get thatfree fifteen in a call and take everything
to the next level. Social mediaBillboards TV actually taking your social media to

(01:35:51):
to the heights. It this Hervesright, media is the way to go.
This is why we built this mediamentorship community out man. I'm helping
out so many people on media Icannot wait, right Helping people grow their
YouTube, helping people get in thenext direction. Oh my god, I
got a few food a few newfeatures coming out this week. Can't wait
for you guys to see that inall these episodes that's been on here weekly,

(01:36:12):
right, right, everything is gonnabe on the show on Spotify,
on It's gonna be everywhere. Soevery single car, Andrea and you listening
to me, every single fire conversation, every conversation we had in the media
mentorship will be on stackpack podcast dotcom. So don't sleep on that.

(01:36:33):
Go over there, Go get Andrea. What's up? Talk to me before
I get about it. What's ups? I just want to say, sech,
thank you, and thank you toeveryone who joined. It's always good
to have so much good energy,especially when you're building things. Please support
Bassie go and you know, sendher a message of appreciation because I mean,
I'm just so grateful that she showedup to be here with us,

(01:36:55):
and I'm grateful to every single soulthat is in this room and pass through.
I just want to send so muchlove to all of you because it
was such a great conversation and Ihope that when we leave here today we're
motivated to continue building what we're doingand using her message to feel us as
well. So thank you everyone,and thanks Stack so much. You know

(01:37:16):
you ain't gotten to thank me.We got it. It's okay. We
needed to do this fastly came inhot go show her love. Shore everybody
on this stage love. I'm outof here. I'll see you guys tomorrow
in the next room two pm.Every day, Monday through Friday. We
don't do no weekend rooms. I'mout of here. Stay loud, stay

(01:37:47):
loud, loves your love, staya wild, stay loud. I'm gona
go big, extra mile extra Isee something, Stop down. I got
some sister how to scream. Manydo so stay down, stay, make

(01:38:12):
you pat your word, you giveyou your money and and keep bus

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