Brad Stine Reveals the MOST SHOCKING Truths About Faith and Comedy

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And by the way, that's original sin, pride.

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And it's the sin that God said He hates the most.
It's not homosexuality, it's not murder, it's not see.
I hate pride. Why?
Because every single sin comes from pride.
Mm-hmm.

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Welcome to another episode of the Stand Up Dude Podcast.
I'm Stewart White, along with Tim Bisagno.
And today we are here to have fun to laugh.
And we have a pretty great guest we want to introduce you to.
I'll say.
I'll say pretty darn good.
I like. I'm shocked I showed up.
Yeah.
So happy about it.

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It's so good.
It's so good.
Well, so he is a man who New Yorker magazine, not known for its conservative views, has called God's comic.
Uh-huh.
So, he's a monocommetion.
He is a political firebrand.
I don't know if that's okay to say.
I like that.

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I mean, I think fireryness is also really good.
This is something that's said a lot.
Yeah.
Maybe one of the greatest men that's ever.
I know it's but your Russian head.
I think I'm ruining most conversations about it.
Yeah.
You can turn that.
You can have people that begin to bow on my presence.
I said, "I'm just a man."
Yeah.
You're just a man.

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It's just a man.
It's just a man.
It's the lowest man.
So I'm just saying what I've dealt with.
It has nothing to do with why you go twice.
Yeah.
Just really.
It's not about that.
If you haven't cut it on yet.
You need to be here just getting my shadow.
How can I slay it?
Just a little bit.
We'll touch your.
It's so good.
You can't touch it.
The Tassel.
Yeah, let's talk about touching the tassel.

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Yeah, I don't think we can go there with it.
I'm Tassel.
We better not.
Well, talk to the show Brad Stein.
I'm going to get your name out there just in case.
Oh, Brad Stein.
The rare person watching has no idea.
But we know that doesn't actually exist.
But yeah, welcome to Stand Up Dude Podcast.
I'm here over court order.
Yeah, it's nothing I try.
Trust me.

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You promised you were going to mention that.
Not my idea.
I can tell you right now.
Yeah, that's right.
But so Brad, yes.
Our show is primarily geared toward men ages.
Oh, now they didn't tell me.
I know.
I thought this was about cats.
18 to 48.
To me, this is all about cats.
So you got all your notes right?
Let's see if they translate.
I got to put my cats away.
Yeah.
Because I've been misled, clearly, by my publicist.

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Oh, yeah.
Somebody's heads are going to roll.
A darn publicist.
That's so good.
Okay, so it's about men.
Yeah.
And the masculinity, the living in the world right now men are 10, they tend to push us to
be silent, to be soft.
They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, them, just they, we, uh, we can be the exact

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of it, like, which is very nice.
You right.
Yeah, they can take the cats while they're leaving.
Yeah, take those cats.
Take them out.
So, but we want to fight back.
And one of the ways I know we can fight back is Swords.
Swords.
If you have a foam sword, laughter usually comes along.
Okay.

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Yeah, I'm ready to fight back.
Let's go.
Let's do it.
Okay.
I'm shocked with that.
Let's blow something up.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Let's do it.
I'm glad I got to yourself.
It's going to, it's going to pull quote from this.
I think it's going to be else's stuff.
That's hysterical.
Yeah.
As long as I'm not asking if it's insured first.
Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
It's good.

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Brad, I want to start with kind of your journey into comedy.
I'm ready to start with the fourth question first.
And you do that.
I just like to mix it up.
And it's so obvious with the first quarter is the first question.
You know, quarter in the game.
Yeah, let's give them the ending.

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Yeah, so I love unless you believe in parallel universes.
I might be doing this podcast somewhere else right now.
In another dimension, another realm, an unseen realm.
Yeah.
Well, now we just went this podcast may go on scene.
So it is.
We would full Michael.

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We would lead a line.
Full Michael Heizer.
Okay.
I was just going to just let the audience know that speaking of men.
Thank you.
Anytime.
You can do that anytime.
He's using too many words in a row.
Too many.
Realized real.
Realized words.
Realized words.
So the man that loved to convince press and love Jesus all the same time and create snort laughs

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is something that I am excited to see today.
As a matter of fact, we've already seen it here today.
Well, we're hurt.
It depending on where you're just a listener.
Yeah, unless you're deaf, then this thing has wasted their time actually.
I didn't realize why am I listening.
I can't hear.
So you have to be careful about those people.
This is not for the Helen Keller's that are still like me where you watch it with just the subtitles.

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Yes.
Just to be or maybe your practice in lip reading or something you don't get a lot of.
It's actually a way to train that skill.
See?
That's it.
I just like that he that he heard.
I saw something where he said something about bench press and in Jesus.
I'm like, that's cool.
Who did?
Well, I don't know.
I saw it somewhere.
Okay.
Well, we're on the subject of seeing things.
Yes.

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I saw a picture of you that had some pictures of some some mounts and like safari heads of like analog.
Oh, where was that?
Because do you hunt?
Oh, that's where I'm getting to.
I don't really hunt that much.
Okay.
Okay.
I killed them with my bare hands.
Oh, I was a deal to the ground.
I think there was a head.

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No way.
It's been by and.
There was violence.
But I felt like if you aren't man enough.
To go after a wild game without a weapon.
Perhaps you need to stay at home and just cook.
So no, that was actually a photo shoot.
Oh, that was great.
It was shot somewhere.
I'm trying to remember where it might have been.

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I think it was at a tattoo part, I believe it or not.
It had all kinds of odd and interesting.
Interesting, clearly interesting.
Thanks.
So it was a photo shoot for my album, unapologetical.
Okay.
I had a few years ago.
That's where that came about.
They were there and it was a photo shoot.
It was like that.
It made for an interesting moment.
And clearly it did.

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My hope was someday I'd end up on a podcast and well here.
Wow, there we are.
So I think my prescience has come home to roost.
When I speak of roost, I speak of hands, chickens, all of which I eat or capture.
Again, we've come full circle.
We have the hunting and the game.

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Yes, I tell you what does that have to do with anything?
Nothing.
I just want to know, do you hunt?
And if so, I don't have to.
I'm not a fan, I hunt.
Right.
But I don't for one main reason, I don't like to be cold.
Yeah, I think every time people hunt, they go, you know what we do is, we get up 3 a.m.
Right.
Really?
Yeah.

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And then we go to the hills, okay.
Okay.
And then we go up through the snow and we get into these blinds and then we sit and we wait to see if some animal shows it's like, but it's like zero.
Oh yeah, well that's part of the fun.
Not for me.
No, not for me.
So what I'm going to have you do is you go do that, you kill it, you eat it, you skin it, you can, you tan it, get me the meat, cook it up, bring it to me and I'll indulge.

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But I'm not doing that part.
No.
Because I don't want to get cold.
Yeah.
So I'm not good with colds.
So no, I mean, honestly, I don't, I think it probably would be fun, honestly, I mean, I guess I don't like to get cold, don't like to get up early.
Right.
What's going to say?
No, I like shooting guns and I like doing stuff like that.

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But I think the whole, but I really believe that hunting is more usually is something that's passed on in a family tradition.
Your dad hunted, so he took you, that was your guy bonding, your dad's son kind of bond thing, you know, if you don't do that, maybe it was sports, you know, and he went out through the baseball together, football, whatever.

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Or Frisbee if you're from Berkeley.
But so I think that, you know, a lot of times things like that are passed on.
And my dad didn't hunt, so I didn't really grow up hunting and I was born in Indiana, so Midwest, so there were certainly plenty of hunters.
It just wasn't something that we did.
So I didn't really ever get get into it.

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So I was trying to make sure that that is what is as long as possible.
I think we're into three men, I'll say.
We're all I had to say was no.
I did.
It's cool.
We just split it into like six episodes.
Our big thing with the show is getting truth to the men that we are speaking to.

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Not all of them want to receive it.
You are the man you're speaking to.
We are speaking to men ages about 18 through to 48 years old.
Some men around, some people are waiting for you guys, they're waiting for you guys.
They're just like your wisdom and being go up in your depth and where they're all waiting for like waters to start.
They have no one to put them into the water or put them in by the time that the YouTuber.

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I have to go up.
It's just great.
But so I know something you've said is comedy is it really is truth told through the lens of humor.
How is it that you can communicate truth?
Obviously I know it's something that in comedy what is funny about it is that there's truth behind it.

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It's a way of saying it.
It's a way of pointing something out.
It's the only way.
What would be funny if I said you, you know these two Martians were walking down this.
It's like what does that mean?
It doesn't mean anything you're unrelated about.
What makes it funny is it's truthful.
It deals with reality.
You know what the comic has that you don't is a heightened sense of humor.

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Now people think that and they use the term sense of humor like it's synonymous with you laugh or you find things funny.
And we use it in that way.
He's got a way sense of humor.
He laughs at my jokes or whatever.
I don't think that's what it means.
I think it means exactly what it said.
It's a heightened sense of humor that we all have the ability to laugh because we do and it's natural.

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Nobody has to say, hey did you see that guy fall through that manhole laugh?
No, it just comes out of you naturally because God said we're making his image.
So all the attributes of the human comes from God's essence from his identity.
Now of course we have fallen so there's a lot of sin and there's distortion of how God is.
So clearly perhaps he doesn't laugh when the guy falls through the manhole like we do.

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Now I'm grateful that we get to laugh the guy falling through the manhole because it's funny.
But my point is that it's natural.
There seems to be things that when they're incongruous to how we think the world's supposed to work we laugh.
It's almost a way of saying that shouldn't happen or that's not supposed to be happy or it didn't or you know what is it.
Shad and Freud you know it didn't happen to me.

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So I'm going to laugh. So it's kind of like this sort of odd projection of oh I'm glad that wasn't me.
But the sense of humor is I believe like a sense eyes ears know throat you know because there's more there's more than the five senses.
You know we know we have a sense of warmth we have a sense of balance.
So there's all these other nuances but they really interesting they really come back to or reference the five senses were used to.

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So if I say I have a sense of it's warm here or cool it kind of is referencing touch.
Even though I'm not touching the heat I'm sensing it because of the large organ your body just skin.
So a sense of humor is the ability to find funny where others don't.
And the reason we do that is because we don't allow life to pass us by without analyzing.

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And you don't if I walked in here and shook your hand nice to meet you you'd go nice to meet you and that would be that.
Comic would go nice to him.
Why don't we grab each other's hands when we do and when we move in them can we just hold them that have to be moving.
And why couldn't I use my leg or what if I was to use my elbow suddenly we start breaking down the way that the conventions of life and the human interactions.

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And just are curious about why do we do that why do we not do that how come that happens why doesn't that happen you know and so for whatever reason we just enjoy finding the funny where others didn't know it existed.
That's why I'm much more of an advocate of clean comedy and I'm always been clean clean as in I don't use first words I don't do sexual jokes or whatever.

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And smarter you I'm not being dirty comedy is a little bit more lazy I think smart comedy is work and well maybe not to you but you know you have to be careful because some great comics used a lot of curse words.
So I you can't just say okay because Richard prior occurs obviously he's not fun with the man.

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No he is so they still use they still can be now there is definitely a lazy man's way to do humor by using curse words or sexual jokes true enough that there can be guys that will rely on that instead of more sophisticated take.
I just want to be careful not presuming that because they curse they must not be deep because that's not necessarily to the same token.

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Yeah there's not a professional standup comedy in the world that wouldn't agree it's harder to write clean than dirty that's obvious so they do understand that that is a harder use of the art form and it is it's a performance arts and it's harder to write clean.
And the point is this if I talked about you know effing this and effing that I'm so funny is breaking taboo is always pushing the animal whatever and so it's kind of a cheat it's kind of a cheat to get somewhere right but it's not original because everybody has access to that word.

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Everybody can use it so it's kind of like a stock material but if I can make you laugh with a piece of toast or post it note or a table and I say and I find something funny about a table you that I didn't think of that or
I thought of that but I've never sort of broken down and then you're not aware of that and I thought I thought of that but I let it pass by not you you leveraged it you even got paid for it so that's really the sophisticated part so to me and I heard Jerry

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I think I'll say this one who's always pretty clean he wants to use the word but for the most part he's straight ahead clean but he said you know I thought I made for a more interesting game and I like that frame because it is it's a game can I figure out how to make something somebody laugh about me discussing a road sign or

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you know frustration at traffic jam or whatever I find the funny there okay that's the game I found funny and you didn't know it existed there I found it I dug it out you didn't know you gave up I kept going there was gold in there you gave up or you didn't have the word with all to do because you're not gifted at that and not everybody is you pay to see a comic because you can't do that I pay a mechanic to fix my engine

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because I can't do that when he finishes is eight hour day I can come over and watch me and I'll bring some join laughter and we're all participating in the human journey together so it's community.
So you you started in comedy did you get into it initially thinking I want to be a clean comic or was that something that just you say into it.

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I was my my world view as a Christ follower I just don't mind no mink nature doesn't include cursing of course I've cursed in my life of course you know it could still pop out I mean I get in and maybe a daily life but for the most part it's not the way I talk so it would have been inconsistent with the way I communicate anyways.

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So I didn't sit there I want to be a clean comic that would be natural I do as a believer I can't not think how am I going to be perceived in the way that I communicate to people so automatically there.
So it kind of was automatic that that's the way I would deliver it but again made it more fun you know for me for me as an artist it's like okay this guy say an F this F F F

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this thing that thing sex thing blah blah blah blah blah and I'm going okay I don't get that word okay I don't get that topic okay I don't get that I don't get that and that brings a lot of a lot of energy to the room and it defines the room it helps create the room all we caught

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we caught we're going to use these words oh we're going to talk like this oh we're going to push this envelope suddenly I get on stage I got shift gears I don't do that but but he created an audience that thinks this is coming so I got a fix I got a fix and I don't get to go
hey man don't say that don't say and I was very I was very cognizant of see there's a there's a decorum in stand-up comedy that goes with the pecking order of where you are there's the opener

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the feature and the headliner that's usually that what has been created for the way stand-up comedy shows done the opener the opening act as 10 minutes maybe 15 feature act usually
did 30 35 headline or would do 45 maybe to an hour depending on this club in the show and so that kind of became the formula as to how comedy night ran in a comedy club yeah so the now there's a there's a reality

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that if you're funny you're probably going to find funny in the same place that somebody else found funny because that's what you do so you might have a joke
about airplane travel or whatever most comics did because we reference something that is part of our life and so we travel a lot you talk about
you're in on that airplane because we keep seeing this thing happen over and over again well so it could be very likely the guy before you

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as an airplane joke or whatever and it's called and it's called parallel development you come up with something funny that you observed and it's in the same
category so people say oh you stole that joke somebody people will say that about me like all your your copy and so and so it's like no I'm copying them if I do their joke yeah

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yeah that's one thing that that's yeah that's a whole different realm if I'm literally word for word taking the joke then yeah I'm stealing from
them if I'm doing something in in the same category that's just all that's all that's rough man that's what that's like saying so many somebody made a

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Western movie you can't make a Western movie so we may want well wait a minute I'm talking about the genre of a particular topic space so
but you can theoretically if you're the headliner or the closing act you've got the prestige so if a guy does a bit about you know whatever it is you know getting on

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a bus and I got a great I got a bit about a bus I can go up and say I don't you do your bus Joe I do it bus Joe you can theoretically go up I don't want you to curse some of the dirtiest
comics it's in the dirtiest guys which go to the guy in front said I don't want you to use the levels curse words yeah I want to keep them for
himself no really I want those for me yeah like the volume it goes out for the last band I want to increase the lights and they

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crease the volume all of a sudden this is the greatest band in the world and they use that you know sometimes they use the particular
epithet for the shock value to get the end the powerful boom I would wasn't when I was doing comedy in the clubs all those years you know as a Christian I was clean so
and I would I had numerous times over the years like I would come up to me watch my act and go yeah I was I think I'm getting clean I've been

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thinking about clean up my I never told him to clean but they watch you being clean and they're going that's so hard I maybe I should do that yeah maybe I'm a little lazy you know what we're going to and you know what I
would show them I'm Christ all right say you know here's the thing that yeah I would say try to read clean just because it makes you better but if you're
going to curse at least be strategic be smart yeah don't use it all the time save it every now and again for a particular punch line you

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really want to blow the room apart with and that's that at least be wise about you know I tried to be a technician and sort of walk them through you know the the art that
were both participating in and giving them my thoughts or whatever but you know my thing is hey I'm Christian I don't do those
curse words I do whatever and that became my little witness to that group you know of of of comedians that I came across

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that I came across because oftentimes the club rented an apartment or a condo so you would spend the week there so there was decorum headliner gets the master bedroom feature
brackets the next room usually if the opener is in the same room he's on the couch I mean it was a whole it's a routine man it's a it's a it's a it's a subculture or you that you wouldn't know and maybe bands have same kind of

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weird things or whatever so you know so there's all this decorum that you learn about how this works and I never in the whole
point of that backstory other than maybe it's interesting people to hear how comedy works on the inside I never would go to a guy and say don't do that even if it was similar ever

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because I felt like if you're the headliner I should be a follow that's me I should be able to follow anybody I can't
I can't if I can't follow yeah I can't tell the picture to not through you know if I can't follow then that on me I shouldn't be closing the show and I also enjoyed saying I'm about to

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do a joke that was someone same topic but I'm going to show where do you get a load of my version what are you here why I take this to yeah so that that was my own personal
sense of of raising the bar for me right I'm an artist I enjoyed the challenge and so that's kind of how I'm doing it the way I did so that was a 10 minute answer

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I love a very simple question and now you know where the genius comes from I'm shocked I listen to my own response and go that guy's good man
so I could learn so much from I could look at something though I have found and I think I like comedy for the fact that there is this intellectual side of it that is very
sometimes dude yeah it like like your stuff especially you have a way of thinking and being quick on your feet and having something

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that's what I want to be you're figuring out it I think it's it's so much of that is the timing and everything and being able to be that person
who has that genius moment if you will if you're a genius at comedy it's so valuable something I wanted to jump into something here you mentioned it earlier your faith that you have a Christian world view

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somewhere along the way you you went into having kind of a ministry side your your journey here so can you talk a bit about that Tim did you have something you want to do
you know you said it you said it great I was just going to throw in there the kind of the difference between is there a line for you and I'm imagining there might not be which is also beautiful

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a line between preaching and and punch lines because you kind of do both and and would you just talk about that when you transitioned from more from one to the next
and and was there a line did you just combine them how does that apply to you today well what I do today is way different than what I did years ago when I was in the comedy clubs I was always clean and and I would have jokes that might reference

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biblical things like I had a joke about Adam and Eve and and you just make this but it's a reference point that anybody could that was on YouTube
and everything I got so you know should we play that we could throw an Adam and Eve let's throw it right here right here all right you just watch that clip yeah and the big news is they have to pay me copyright every single

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of the royalties on that too so that's why I said just keep that we're going to keep itching is all I'm saying we're at the
line or somewhere down the road there was a question I forgot line between punch line and preaching is not exist for you so well okay so I made this the statement years ago

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and the statement I made to people was you know somebody was said to me that's it kind of in a different way but they said this
are you considering yourself more of a comic or a preacher that was the question in my response was yes how come if I talk about the way I see the world I'm a preacher but if

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Chris rock does it he's a social commentator don't you understand everybody preaches everybody has a point of view that they want you to
agree with that's preaching that's what it means but when I do it because it does have a particular reference to a specific philosophical reality which is Jesus Christ was God

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nobody else has ever pulled that one off so it gives him a little status just a little little upside yeah but when somebody else does it with a
point of view well that's just commentary so I'm doing the same thing but yeah I have a very specific specific point of view that is very very much contained within a very precise

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ideology true enough but you're a western every specific moral foundational view that you think is obvious so for parent
it comes from my people it's Christian yeah and you don't know because it's become so ingrained in the fabric of the way we see the world as westerners yeah

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that you don't even realize that's Christian it isn't normal to to not not kill a baby okay we it used to be it was called exposure to the
Romans they have a baby they don't want it they just left out inside of the road through it in Lutrine there was no human rights to it literally didn't they didn't think of it like that it's like throwing a puppy away or so you

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didn't think about it Christianity said this is immoral because we're all made the image of God you never thought of that that one idea which by the way
started with the Judaism Jews first and it but because Christianity is simply a combination of Judaism played out to the end yeah where Messiah shows up the moral theistic God that says you're made in my

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image had never existed in human history that was all polytheism and you know stars are God and sons God and the rain God and the dead began it was all this crazy everything is about basically crops and stuff and trying to survive because it was hard to survive
when this guy came and said you're making God's image so you are sacred yeah suddenly the ability for human rights came into existence never exists before you have it you have special right because you exist you have a right as a woman because you

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exist and you were made in the image you got here he made the male female and you know he made them in his image like both of them yeah so this is 6000 years ago there is no women get equal that wasn't even you
got to be kidding me that wasn't in the picture it was then so it changed the world and so I try to bring dignity to my point of view and because I can I have a

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little deal with people who mock and ridicule my God who wouldn't but also especially when you don't aren't grateful for what you have been given and you don't
respect it it just bothers me and I and I think it's dependent on how you respond to it it can either be brutish and angry and seeking a

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revenge or or punishment and that isn't that's forbidden for me as a Christian I hate that I want to be able to be able to be
to with the bat and I don't get to but if it is referencing reality and truth and so forth and and in a deep

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a deep a Lawrence to immorality whatever God that there that is anger that is actually not only approved but is good and it's called righteous indignation and it's given to us because the
Bible says be angry send not yeah how do you do that with righteous indignation it's in the form of righteousness as God sees the world so I'm not I'm

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forbidden to hate people yeah I'm commanded hate ideas that are not gods and that's the difference and that's what that makes all the
difference so the to the progressive and keep and make it very clear to you progressivism is not a philosophy or political persuasion even
they think it is it's a religion is the secular humanistic their full beliefs is religion to take the place of the

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Christian religion so they don't have if you haven't noticed the the edict to love your enemy they get to hate their enemy
they get to they get to cancel their enemy they get to imprison their enemy they get to censor their enemy they get to shut up their enemy
it's very much Marxist yeah which is atheist and I'm not given that permission

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that's why they attack Christians in pretty much leave Muslims alone because Muslims aren't given that either they're allowed to defend their God in whatever
means necessary Christians aren't and I want to but God knew my nature and he said I can't let you because you will go on
unhinged I need you to behave in a way that is so counterintuitive to the human condition that people can't ignore you who are you

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what are you why do you act like that this isn't make any sense love your enemy what oh you don't love your enemy
it's ridiculous pray for those that despitefully use you no no pray for those who love me pray for those who take care of me
pray for those who are my friends pray for those that help me that makes sense that despitefully use me
it doesn't make sense it's not natural to do that and it isn't he says no I know say I'm trying to teach you to

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natural naturally you have been redeemed internally by your spirit and you spend the rest of your life trying to get your flesh to catch you up
it never will but you're supposed to put it into the the the mill to begin to grind towards that that place
and that's what your job is why has that been so lost in the American church I always reference the American church

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not the rest of them because we didn't go through the persecution that most of our people do around the world
so we don't sense the the depth of the cost because it didn't cost us anything
yeah because it didn't cost us anything and so God had to sort of release that protection and said
you're going to have to start feeling with this cost because you're taking it for granted you're not grateful for it

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you know I I reference the the the American church and how so much of it has become heretical so many denominations
that have walked away from original classic apologetics you know the Piscopelians branches of method I mean they're they're heretics
it's heresy okay why because they want to use the moniker Christian and use one side of it Jesus loves

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hmm and that is a part of Jesus a part of Jesus but it's not a balance
because if somebody says you love Jesus loves or God loves you you have to say that's true but before we go further
to make sure we're using the same word with the same definition define your terms what does the love mean
I need to know so we make sure that we're not talking around each other using the same word does the word

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well love means you love people just the way they are oh well God doesn't
love too much to leave them where they live now that's why he loved you just the way you were
there would have been no crucifixion yeah I don't need to save you from anything yeah I love you just the way you are
yeah no I don't I'll die for you just the way you are because it's taking you to hell

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it's a critical point critical so I can't love you that way because my love is richer than yours your love isn't love it's license
mm-hmm have you noticed that all the progresses and the deconstructionists usually always has a reference point to
to sex mm-hmm why is it always usually about who they want to have sex with or how they want the license to have sex

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or who they want to defend who has sex in a different way that's always that way but there's something about that
that behavioral element that seems to always crop up to be the catalyst to draw people to something else
that is the license for a a corruption of the way God designed the world to be

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we were designed to pro create mm-hmm and that can only happen through male female sexual union we literally make another human
yeah we are pro creating he started the ball we couldn't have done it without the materials he gave us so he's then he is the
he is the unmoved mover he is the he is the natural first uh existor he's always been here right he is non-contingent

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we are he's necessary for talking philosophy yeah um
uh but we are supposed to go forth and do it do it in in the realm in the parameters he's created for us
yeah so um we find ourselves wanting the the the um the what happens in in in the joy of the sexual

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experience which is part of the union of creating us psych uh psychologically mentally and spiritually to be connected
it's really designed that way there's certain hormones and so forth and they go off in our brains that creates an actual connection to us
because it's spiritual deep it's sacred um and these people do things that cannot pro create so it's a abuse of the sacred

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yeah now in a destruction of the sacred but you know why because the christian church for the most but not all of them
but for in America got lazy and continued to try to to promote people becoming Christians
okay instead we were never called to be Christians

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we were called to be disciples um Christianity is easy yeah it's just a check box
Christianity is easy because I don't have to do anything Jesus does yeah I'll die for you
can I get to heaven no you're gonna have to take my key I did the work take me oh my christian that was easy
um because he did the work the hard part is the next step that spends the rest of your life

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if you're doing what he asked becoming a disciple from the word discipline which sucks
yeah because it's hard suddenly you take it you take it literally what he told you
happens to you when you become one of us and I expect you to not even become one of my

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unless you count the cost and we don't we don't count the cost we want it superficial and simple
he said no no no a true believer is crucified a true believer is a slave a true believer is dead
hmm who wants to be any of that stuff yeah hmm it's not gonna be a lie the guy's eyes

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except to Jesus yeah no you redeemed your soul but your flesh is still here hang on we got a lot of work to do
and it's going to hurt that is what it means to be a disciple and that's what Jesus said go into
the world and make disciples we've kept it superficial and that's why it is collapsing in America

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difference of converts and disciples yeah that's my call by the way you talked about you know
when you I didn't answer your question I got off on a side tracked in the weeds but maybe God
needed that to be said but you asked me about that um uh about you know when I'm on stage and I'm
talking about uh um you know a preaching or or or whatever what happened to me was when I started

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working in the churches I started adding elements of my faith to it because I'm with my people's like
oh I'll throw in some stuff if all I did was plumber conventions I'd have plumber jokes I'd have
plumber references yeah hey those might get wrenches huh aren't they crazy uh but I'm a Christian
so I was with Christian so I said well let's talk about pretty and they would laugh and they'd laugh

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and I'm used to people laughing that wasn't a big deal I'm glad they laughed yeah but suddenly I
would say something poignant something deeper something had some spiritual significance and I'd see
the beeper less and there was this countenance shift yeah and they'd become something else and I in my
mind I'm going oh they're not laughing they're just but it's like I but I have to say this thing I

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have to say this thing you know it'd be a lot better if you didn't say this thing you make a lot
more money you'd make a lot more money you'd be a lot more famous if you don't tell people you were
Christian conservative comic if you don't do that you might make it on the tonight show you might
get your own sitcom you might get a Netflix special but if you go take this leap and say this is how I

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see the world and I'm not going to apologize for it's going to destroy your mainstream career you
understand that okay well then how do I not do that would just make a laugh to make a laugh but
God there's these things I have to say oh you're anointed this is what a prophetic voice means

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it's not I'm saying the hard things I have to
this is what I was called to do I didn't sign up for that he said I didn't ask you what you signed
up for I told you if you accept my son sacrifice I expect everything so either get cold and go to hell

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but Alicia not abuse in my son or get all in but if you're going to stick in the middle I'm not
interested you make me puke that's the discipline is lost in this nation and around the world and
that's what men were supposed to be the leaders of by being that guy that guy changes families
and worlds and creates continents and and and and and first amendment rights and and freedoms and

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justice and mercy and and and and and defense the end of that all comes from an actual disciple not
from the superficial Christian that rests and grace given to him and never thinks it should
cost him a cent that isn't Christianity so I sort of speak in these things changed everything I had

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to do it okay and I kind of ended up so even if I go back to a club nowadays like I don't know if
y'all came to see that other show I do when I'm making my next album but what is this what is this
this is called laugh all it's legal not while it's legal yeah it's my next out yeah so but anyways
my now not yet okay come out in February I'm hoping February of 2025 yeah and so um

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if I'm in a club now um I will say my stuff but if I go to a club now I go in with them like
with them understanding this is what I do you need to understand this is my constituency
of Christians and conservatives and patrons that's who comes to see me so if you ask what you want

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oh let's go do a night we'll do a thing you'll still get your money for your for all the liquor they
drink even though it's not gonna be as much as you used to but the weight nachos and um you know
in the left but this is what and they don't care they're just they're just making money is like okay
this guy has his own little fan will fall in yeah and that's what I just so yeah I'll do it there

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but I wouldn't have done it in clubs but I would have said jokes about biblical references and so forth
which is no different than Jim Gaffigan saying yeah I'm a Catholic and here's what's funny and
you know somebody else saying uh oh I grew up in the church or I was a LDS or I'm gay or what it's
just referencing it as though we're not I don't expect you to take this seriously I'm just sort of

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just throwing it out talking about something about me but don't worry am I here to prioritize
and uh I am so it puts me to different categories so I did become up I believe it's a prophetic
voice to the church that he called me too because God taught me um I thought my gift was comedy it's not

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okay my gift is communication okay the flavor it comes in it's funny it's funny
it's the delivery system it's the delivery system yeah I was confused by my own skill set because
it's a gift have you ever thought of that something you said here can you wait you're confused by your

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delivery system yeah because I because what happens is it's it's why God hesitates in giving us
blessings loves to give us blessings hesitates because so often we get a blessing
and we worship it mm-hmm he's like here they go again oh here we go again I got you out of Egypt

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and you worshiped uh the new land and the new thing but I'm a little upset that there's not water
and uh sure can you some food and they start longing for the old world they make cattle uh
idols and whatever um and they start doubting because they want it comfortable that's your biggest

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detriment to your faith being robust is if you want it comfortable that should be an indication
you're not doing it right because if you're comfortable it means one thing you're not moving
see when you're moving it's not comfortable if you're walking uphill movement takes hard calories

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when God made the Eden energy food and yeah and sweat when he when he created Eden the beginning
he had they had everything they needed here's your food here's animals here's your atmosphere here's
water here's thing you're together so you can make more people you know what he didn't make a hammock

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mm-hmm it was perfect pre-send pre-send and he said now go to work mm-hmm work wasn't a curse
don't I get a relax no no no but I haven't sin yet we don't have weed yet even for me to
have weed there's no for is nothing for me to sweat he goes no no no no I'm not doing this for you

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mm-hmm I will assist you but I'm not I didn't create you so that I could wind you up
yeah I did this so we can work together and that I can walk with you in the cool of the day
mm-hmm together and work together think about this he they ate right yeah yeah if they ate food was

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their feces most yeah they're human but isn't that corrupt isn't that the death of food
didn't the food died the nutrients were removed and then you had this decay what about all the bugs
did they just keep it let me were we supposed to live forever because if we never send and procreated

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and nobody ever died then the world just has to meet people it was sure seemed like now maybe
maybe we would have created technology where we could rocket people I don't know who we'll never know
but it almost seems as though God saw this coming yeah he and his he knew what was gonna happen

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nothing surprises him hey when you said I'm not gonna do this for you okay it was a reference to
to work like like dude I'm wondering if he almost was like I am going to do this
for you you may not work on your own you may find the hammock and be there all day but I'm going to give

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you purpose I'm going to give you a job and you may have not chosen that on your own but I'm going
to do this for you human because I love you I'm going to give you work I'm going to give you
well but that that seems a little that seems a little disc I'm not sure I understand what that

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was because when you do the work for you but I'm thinking he gave us work because we may have not
chosen on our own I'm going to do this for you I'm going to put this program and I'm going to
yeah well of course I'm going to gift Brad with this with with this gift and I'm going to do that

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in in Brad I'm going to do that and he's not doing he's providing providing doing means he's doing
the work we know we know it well no I mean I'm not trying to debate you we're having a mental
exercise but here's the thing he gave us a term that that indicates something that is pretty

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heavy he said I want you to take dominion over this stuff that means you are in control and
having authority by which you have to regulate and navigate this stuff that I've given you so you
have to wrangle things and you have to and maybe put up fence I don't know what it meant but to take

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dominion means to take authority over which means you have things that you have to kind of control
and and and and keep in their proper place so you have something to do it comes with
what I'm saying having the doing part he gave us something to do yeah which which well what else would
there be right I mean I don't know yeah God is misdeeds he could have he could have and I think

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is a gift but he didn't yeah because he didn't that means there was something else there was
teleology clearly in in inculcated into our DNA yeah I mean that was an endgame put that in our heart
like yeah yeah it's our corrupt nature now turns work into a curse rather than seeing work as a

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blessing that's it yeah like you said earlier we worship the gift or the blessing rather than
the creator who gave it to us the pro creation means a continuousness or a continuing of
an order set in a natural orders put into to launched into a rhythm right he God kind of gave us all

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the stuff he gave us the game he said now you have to start playing yeah so take the dice roll and get
your get your token start I mean there was something to do otherwise there I don't even know why
we're here yeah I mean that's another I mean I have this philosophical exercise that I've had that I

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I'm really interested in bringing to a philosopher to help me see if there's a flaw in this too
not right I'm not no it's just something else but you know and but I would love to sort of bring it
up to a professional philosophy something and I'm a some maybe I'm missing something this it's
another thing maybe it's for another episode okay hit me what is it well okay maybe well I would like

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that we would love very much love to have you back by the way if you want to hold that I can't agree
to that I just I feel like the more I'm around you guys are more relaxed your Buddhist sunshine yeah
that's the way obviously there's a way we are we're all shooting for nothingness is what we're all
talking about yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a Buddhist bucket what's what's funny when you were saying

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earlier about the the worldviews and just everything that the way people are engaging with things
they are bar you're basically saying they're borrowing from what we've given them which is this
Christian culture this influence that has happened we see I literally see this all the time in our
comments where in idea whatever the clip is that they're commenting on and they never look at the

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context they just go straight for brua whatever it is and so it's like okay for one there was context
here but to the argument you just made totally assumes the your result like you assume that you're
right because you disagree rather than you actually have an argument to make about this thing so
same thing they're coming at it with like well my belief is that it's obviously wrong to kill

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somebody or my belief and it's like but why is it like that's what it is it is it is it is nothing is more
frustrated and frankly honestly in this maybe this doesn't sound Christ-ish but it's almost it's
almost I think you're worthless to try to debate internet atheists oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

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because they can't think well they can't think and I don't mean that in a pejorative yeah I mean
literally they can't think and the reason they can't think properly and of course they think they're
the ultimate thinkers they that's we just have reason around that's all we do but and especially
like I mentioned Tilly O'Circleary or Tillyology they cannot grasp the idea of a man in narrative they

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can't narrative yeah so if you were to say to them you know and the reason I can I can assess this
is because if you look because there are some deep thinking brilliant atheists oh for sure
person wrestles and you know Christopher Hitchens and there were guys that were really good at it
they did understand philosophy they're interesting to talk to they give you a run for your money

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they do and or there's a guy out now a young kid named Alex O'Connor who who is who I I gotta say
the more I listen to the more I really respect that he understands the challenges of his faith
in in atheism and is able to articulate that I've seen him in in conversation with Richard Dawkins

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and will make arguments against Dawkins very super if Dawkins sucks at philosophy so bad he's ignored
frankly by atheist philosophers because he's so bad or they're embarrassed yeah the way he represents
atheism but he will just in in the conversation to keep it dynamic the guy will say something kind of
superficial that most of the internet atheists will go oh god he's ingenious and this guy's going yeah

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but but but but and the guy will be like flubbing around oh well I mean yeah because he knows he
understands the flaw in the philosophy because he understands logic and reason there's a flaw here
so let's talk about let's really get to reality here so I give him credit that he is able to articulate
that and literally will take I don't think he's trying to do this but he's taking the side of of

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a theist just to make formal robust conversation and the guy is is sucks at most these atheists
are internet guys that's all I'm talking about the trolls they just take cut and paste something
they reach from Dawkins throw it out there and think they did something hysterical and date deep
you always know also if it's ever predicated on an insult ignore it they they're not thinking if

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it's a ad-hom and attack why am I having a conversation you don't think if you call all you guys
in your sky daddy okay I'm out if that's how you think you know I'm referencing god and the
thousands of years of philosophical history people trying to discover the transcendent you're not
worth my time it is pervably for swan but thank god wave a bible it says by the way if that's

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what you're dealing with shut shake the dust off your feet you don't have to engage somebody who
is uninterested in thinking not is interested but just can't get it that's different you try to
educate but if it's like they have no interest in it they've made up their mind you're wasting your

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time and so if I was to say to them you know there is no meaning to life if you're right and most
atheist from Nietzsche to Russell were nealists because that's the only conclusion it can mean if
we're here by accident and we are just molecules in motion no different than this microphone or

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this table we're just here and there's no purpose and we're going to die and move into eternal oblivion
then why do anything yeah eat drink and be merry that's the one that argument that's always made
to I feel like they'll go no no no it's obvious that you know we should still have laws we should
still have morals so it's like is it though like it does it's not but that's the point that's

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what I mean by not thinking they're not realizing that you got if you want to say that instinctively
or they're the only motivation power they have is survival that's what Darwin is based on survival
makes us go do a b in c and d's like wait a minute stop yeah justify the value of surviving yeah

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why is that well who cares to live one more day who cares you're moving into eternal oblivion yeah
but one day we might learn how to take your consciousness and put it onto a hard drive and keep
you alive for forever so there you go so wait a minute is the universe going to remain forever in
existence or is there going to be a heat death that eventually causes the entire universe to collapse

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and desire and ever I don't care if you live 10 billion years eventually it's all gone yeah and
nobody knows you're here so that's what I'm pointing so what's the point and they can't grasp that
no we just make mean for ourselves no that's my point I'm talking about the meta narrative I'm talking

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about the novel yeah then model the beginning little in you want to add a chapter and say but the
chapters all the matters is my little chapter and I said but I'm talking about if the novel burns
your chapter's gone too yeah if I was in an elevator and it breaks and it's

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hurtling to the ground and all the way down I said I've just figured out the cure for cancer
I know how to cure cancer and I told everybody in the elevator I figured it out
yeah doesn't matter yeah doesn't matter and that's what you are you're in the hurtling elevator

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and you're pretending that it has matter matter fact you've reached the point where you say to
yourself life doesn't have any intrinsic meta value so just take the little value you give it
along the way yeah that's how they do it yeah just make you're a little thing
well you're the pleasure yeah might just take what you got while you're there and that's all you
get but that's okay you might as well do that and I said no that's that's inconsistent that's

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incoherent that's you are behaving as though it has meaning because if you don't you cannot function
as a human you're stealing from theistic transcendent belief that there is value at the
end of all this to keep this journey alive and you don't acknowledge it and that's on you and

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that's why the great horror of hell is you chose it so one of the things that that I love about you
if you've spoken into lots of stuff oh well I said only one but I meant you got a list that if
you know all of the love you have for me there wouldn't be enough books I know I put those books in

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in a in two giant suitcases today in the back of my car and it was bulldog and all the way up the
whole rear axle was dragging because the books were so big and heavy one of the things I love that
you've talked about is on the subject of um apologizing for being a male or apologizing for the

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existence of us being a male which has been um kind of glorified that that idea sure I saw you say
somewhere that that may need to quit apologizing for existing oh of course okay go well but that's
just agency right that's just if you are a cognizant human being that exist and you're a Christ

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follower now you don't have to be a Christfather to to find dignity in your existence just you just
need to know that that comes from Christianity just so you understand why you have that perspective
it's not intrinsic in your nature to think that um there's everybody's equal or whatever that's
just a concept you can't justify that especially if you're a a Neal Darwinist that don't that

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that believes in a closed system and that there is no um immutable truth if you believe that then
this is all cultural conventions you're just making crap up on the fly and that's fine maybe it
works and you can do that people do but please don't pretend that you have some deep sacred
holy script that needs to be passed on because you can't justify it and I'm going to demand to do

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just that try to prove that life can have value without an engineer without an author that put all
the game into place that is transcendent of human that's the key it has to come from somewhere else
if it comes from humans it can be taken away by humans if I make a law as a human say this is the
rule the way I want to rule and you can come in with a bigger stronger axe than me you make the rules

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that's the survival of the fittest that's the that's you know nature is uh read you know read in
tooth and claw uh perspective that might makes right and there is no moral um
compunction to do anything but survive that's what you believe
and yet we don't live like that um see part of why I think you need to or how to analyze a

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philosophy is not just um how does it work but why does it work and does it bring fruit to a culture
whatever that is you know let's say it's Marxism let's say it's capitalism let's say it's Christianity

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let's say it's Buddhism let's say you know you walk it out to its conclusion and say to yourself
how does it affect the world too you know how does it have a meaning that's that appears to be

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more productive and more value comes from it more goodness comes from it and whatever now again
the atheist will say that is an evolutionary counterfeit of morality the most good for the most
people that's what kind of they go by you know does it cause human flourishing and that's how we

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define it as good and I'm saying to them once again that doesn't work because if I'm stronger than you
and to me to flourish means to take your wife and rape her because I want that I'm going to kill you
so you're out of the way eating your food taking your kids turn them into slaves so I can keep producing
for say I can do it and you can't do jack about it it's not wrong I won yeah might makes right or

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or we believe there's something else there's something more beautiful about my existence
that can choose to be kind can choose to sacrifice for the sake of somebody else this idea of
beauty and the sacred and and to be a man for example to be a warrior to be courageous what's the

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atomic weight of courage yeah how about virtue what color is virtue what's it tastes like
yet we all believe in courage and think it's noble and worth hanging on to we all believe in
nobility but we can't find it in a test to wear a Petri dish these ideas are transcendent they are

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not in nature or defined in the material world there's something else and yet we think they are
worth striving for and giving our lives to our material world our material life a biological life
to these ideas like there's something else because that's what it God gave us to give ourselves a

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sacred presence there's and Christianity is it it's because you're made in the image of God
this is unbelievable and if you are a man you were made first does that mean you're better than
women no it just simply means God made us first that's how the how the Genesis story goes

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but then it said you were lacking a partner named on the animals wasn't good enough and then he made a
woman and she completed you so she's made in your in the image of God as well obviously God is male
female because he split us in half and said they were both made in his image so I guess he's both

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and we come together so so in no way is masculinity mean that you demean women or that you hold them
in contempt or that they are your servant but no good man thinks of him that way right we want to

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protect him right we want to provide it gives us great joy to think I fed I took yeah man I gave you
a house babe you know it's a cave right that's all the houses it's just a hole with a with a cave
around it yeah I gave you a cave and I gave you food and I took care of you and we get great joy in

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that well why don't women get joy in protecting and defending and feeding us because they don't
it doesn't it's never worth like that in human history men do certain things for the women and they
do certain things for us so for so the point is quite simple if you're a man you are given

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of this beautiful honor to do hard things for women for children for society and the truth is you
can sit there and complain and try to play the all there's no gender and all this nonsense is trying
to destroy that uniqueness I say but let's just now let's play it out in real time who is out in

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building the skyscraper at 5 a.m. in the freezing cold 20 below zero in Chicago women or men
men are the ones that are building them men are the ones that are going to war men are the ones that
created the United States men are the ones that fight against in warfare men are historically the ones

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that have done the hard work that created the hard things that's just true yeah yeah you don't have
to go any further than reading the stories of those who came before us to realize you are of that
lineage you're a man and we have done amazing things done evil things too but who stopped the evil

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men so when a man goes off kilter and starts trying to be abusive and leverage his masculinity
and his strength to be evil and man comes in to say nope out of balance that's all God is here
all God does in his career is balance he wants to keep things in balance once it gets out of balance

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somebody has to write the ship and that's what a man of honor does I think he can make the case that
a man who is representing who believes that he's made in the image of God is a man who is probably
doing the good that you're describing yeah it's when that man rejects that in some way that he's
probably doing the evil that you're describing and that normally comes out of pride narcissism

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expense sense of getting what he does what he will be my own God yeah and by the way that's original
sin pride and it's the all it's the sin the God said he hates the most it's not homosexuality
it's not murder it's not see I hate pride why because every single sin comes from pride

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every one of them I get to murder that guy because I get to choose who lives and dies pride
I get to have sex with whoever I want because I desire it pride pride yeah yeah well it's interesting
that people would create a monitor that they find as great when God said oh be very very careful with

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that because I despise pride because pride is worship of self it is systemic narcissism now listen
so if you are a man you should be proud that you were created to be this this warrior and just
so you know by the way if you're out there going oh yeah well I'm kind of not strong I'm kind of a

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weak guy I mean I don't have I can't I'm not very strong and I'm kind of a nerd and I kind of
have a more of a tech nerd and I love doing computers and I'm a gamer and I'm not you know I've
been bullied and whatever and all I'm good at is is designing things and and whatever and say hey
dude guess what you are a warrior with your mind when you when I talk about men and their strength

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and masculinity it doesn't just mean you got a gun rack in the back you can touch that's one way
yeah or that you're a great athlete that's one way oh athletics is by the way as a recreation
in a safe way of warfare that's all it is this is warfare in war games where nobody hopefully is killed

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so I just wanted for those you out there who feel like man I you know I'm not good at that or my
dad you know wanting me to be a star athlete and I it's I'm I'm no good at it I'm I feel bad about
that it's like dude your gift is enough whatever your good is what you were given that's your so great

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run with that thing now if your dad wanted to be something else and he
demeaned you for that I'm sorry for that right that I that I'm sorry for and and there's nothing
I can do to fix that there's no scripture verse to make it better I mean I can give you some that
are true right and that can give you some spiritual help but if you were abused and treated or

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you still are I can't make that go away what I can do is tell you that your dad is flawed and very very
likely if he's abusive and evil it happened to him he's just repeating the pattern he doesn't know
what to do because he didn't he wasn't meant meant to or or or he wasn't given a pattern that was

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healthy for him I'm not making excuses if you're being abused at all and and if you and you need your
way then you need to if if you're life's in jeopardy but if it's just simply a matter of I wish it
was better and I wish it was you know here's all I can tell you what Christianity gives you is a
heavenly Father and he's perfect and he tells you who you are and he said well done son just do what

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you with what I've given you and I and by the way he's with you he's with you in the pain and he
understands and he's and he knows it's hard and some of you I'm going to tell you something you
don't hear I don't know why you're going through it you're going through I don't have an answer I
can't sit there and say here's the answer boom boom all thing I'm better now I can't some guys have

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a better life or or at least what feels easier and safer and I'm just trying to be real with you
part of being a true Christ followers is authentic enough to say there is some crap out there it
doesn't make any sense right and and I wish it no way and ain't going to and you might have to endure
something that you don't deserve I will tell you that and I don't know why I don't have an answer

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I will say this
you are on this earth for a very short time but the moment you were conceived you became immortal
see everybody you will ever meet in your lifetime we have one thing in common we're termally

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ill the moment you were conceived you started to die but here's the interesting thing you live
forever you live forever not in a flesh form your spirit does so you need to and it's not going to

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necessarily make it easier but it should give you some hope you're going to die I'm going to die
is a guarantee ten out of ten yeah and so if somebody came to you and said listen you're going to
have some really rough times it's going to hurt it's going to be terrible it's going to be to and
it's just you're going to not think you're going to get through it and it's going to last for 20

(01:16:36):
years and it's just going to feel unbearable but you're going to get through it and then I've got
a mansion for you it's in Maui it's a 20 thousand square feet you can have your yachts you know boat
it's going to and it's going to last forever and every day is going to be new so you're never

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going to get bored because it's going to be changed every time I'm going to get bored no you're not
because you're talking about the radiator wake up your rooms at different times it's always brand new man
or if you like it this color it'll be that way too you get exactly what most is there for your
particular reason that you exist that's unique in the thumbprint that God has given you in other

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words if everything you hoped what happens you want it is going to come would you accept it then
yeah it's going to suck but yeah yeah okay so you're saying will you trade 50 years 20 years
for eternity in perfection who wouldn't do that guess what that's exactly what God's offering

(01:17:47):
it's real so pray as God for strength for courage show you some ways out but I got to tell you somebody
and this is the hard truth there are plenty of Christians in Iran Iraq Afghanistan China Haiti Cuba
Mamiya Namar you know Turks and Kekos India Nigeria Somalia Uganda Congo you know Pakistan Turkey Egypt

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just in Syria Algeria I'm loving it I'm loving it I'm trying to get radio so true I mean you know all over
the world you know North Korea all over the world who are going listen we're praying for God to help us
and we died they killed my son they took my daughter and sold her some dude you don't think they're going

(01:18:48):
yeah anytime you want to jump in it doesn't make sense it doesn't in some of us won't experience that
but frankly you know the most persecuted people christ religious people group honor our Christians

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and have been for quite a few years and this is the hard truth man out there and I'm talking to you
I don't care if you're 10 years old God said this is going to be hard
that's the point I'm not kidding count the cost it will be worth it and ask and ask yourself what have I ever

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achieved great things I ever achieved in my life that was easy nothing anything that I ever
achieved that was really when I got there said that's what I longed for that was easy nothing you will
always grow more from pain than pleasure always that's the way it works our real growth our real life

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changing miraculous unbelievable change comes through trauma it's the way it works it sucks but that's
because we live in a fallen world find yourself some friends find yourself a church were that
you know youth passage or maybe perhaps she can help you and fight with you and love on you and
everything but they're I promise there is when you accept Jesus there is a completion to this

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thing and the second you step into that space you go oh that was nothing compared to this I'll take
that trade any day doesn't make it easier but it's true resting it oh man man thank you Brad the

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you know the trauma and the as soon as we were born we began to die all of those things are just
are awakening an existence to the the thing the scripture calls sin the things separate us
from God and you've you've you've you've said so many beautiful things here and I love especially

(01:21:21):
the end here where you just said that it's going to be hard man I felt you and and I'm I thank you
for doing that thank you for doing that I was a giant giant reality check and and truth and I know

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that it landed for many of you and there there's a beautiful awareness and a beautiful gift of
hearing truth like that isn't there and the beautiful is peace of that the the payoff the the end of the

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day the 20 year the 50 year the Maui the this and that that we're speaking up is that we get to spend
our life here when we when we come to Christ walking with our good Father knowing that that the
resistance of those of those weights are our our our building strength and he is with us there is

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no doubt it's hard and but we have a good Father that's here walking with us guiding us leading us
healing us pushing us probing us pointing us and and he and he never stops he never stops

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and if you've never asked him God I want you to be my good dad starting today you can do that I'm
going to say a two or three sentence prayer and if you'd like to follow me you can and then I'm
going to I'm going to offer you some some some some great things thereafter pray with me now
you say dear God step out of heaven and into my heart thank you for sending your son Jesus

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and ask him to come into my heart and live forever thank you for dying on the cross for me I accept my
forgiveness by your payment I want to serve you the rest of my life in Jesus name I pray amen
if you've prayed that prayer you have a new life starting today as Brad said we we live forever

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year it one place or the other year place my friend is walking with Jesus here on this earth starting now
and forever for eternity we thank you for guys this is huge what you just did very very big
there was that that was a beautiful moment and it was also kind of easy wasn't it because God you

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took the key that that that God that that God handed you to beautiful key has pretty easy considering
the options the hard part can be like continuing to grow continue to hold on to that key continuing to
walk continue to keep your yes on the table and so we we have things for you that to offer for

(01:24:43):
their beautifully free of course go to our website and what these things do are they are growth paths
okay their hand tested tools I like to call them things that will help you grow in Christ so you can
look more like Jesus instead of just talking about them instead of just admiring them instead of

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only reading about them you know you're you're going to start looking like him and sound like him
and talking about him and actin like him so that doesn't just happen by a magic turn of a simple key
you keep turning that key buddy keep turning that key and you can go to our website at standupdood.com/stand

(01:25:27):
standupdood.com/stand let us know you'll see it right there there's growth paths for you we love you
and we're here for you there's all kind of ways to to get involved but I think I'm going to leave it
with that today share this episode with with people that you know need to hear truth and truth is

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beautiful because it's true and we love you and and thank you for being here with us thank you for
being here with this bread thanks for bringing the truth and we love you guys and then see you later
this world today's star of its pleasures and sweetness like a mom.

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