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He was carrying something and when we feel it in the body of Christ, if you're part of the body of Christ,
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which he was sincere for the Lord, everyone starts to feel it.
And I think he was the first modern day martyr that we saw in real time, tragically,
you know, hit the Western world. This was our culture and a voice to, you know, even our politics
and our, you know, our generation and the young generation. And it just, it just hit something,
it hit a chord. Yeah. And God's using it. Miley, I think we're in the greatest awakening has begun.
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I'm leading on to the greatest harvest.
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Stand Up Dude podcast. I am Stewart White and along
with our host, Tim Bisagno. We are here to have another great episode, really. Another one. Yeah.
We have a guest with us today. His name is Pastor Scott McLeod. He is the pastor of Harvest Sound
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in Nashville. In addition to that, he is an author. And one of the reasons we were having you on
today is because you were part of an event that was in downtown Franklin and organizing that.
And so we are really glad to have you here today. Tim, I know you have a lot you, you want to say,
but I just want to welcome Scott. Hey, thank you. Thank you. Excellent job. He's also one of my favorite
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things about Scott is you're a creative. Thank you for being a creative. And thank you for
by the way, loving my family. Oh, yeah. So dearly. Easy to love. Oh, that's nice. So what we're here,
it's Scott to do eventually here in a second. It really actually pretty quickly. We're gonna,
we're gonna, I'm just honor some of the things that that our brother, our recent downed brother,
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Charlie Kirk stood for and you helped, you were a part of a gathering here very recently as in two
or three days ago, where over 2000 people gathered, it was called stand up. By the way, that got my attention.
Pray up and speak up. That got my attention. And I know that you do those three things really,
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really well. And I'm honored to have you today. So thank you for being here. I'm honored to be here.
Yeah, man. So good. You know, some of the things we're gonna talk about, you know, it will be heard
maybe years later, certainly days and months after that tragic event. But you guys, if you're still
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here, if this is touching you, I want you to know that I'm committed to making sure that what the
things that we say here are gonna still be extremely relevant. We love what Charlie stood for, but this is
about a whole lot more than that. So thank you. Thank you for being here. So tell me, I know you've
known the family of Charlie and been a part of his life and part of some of the things he's done.
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Tell us about that so people can get a context for that. Yeah, sure. Well, I guess for me,
I just started hearing of Charlie, of course, on the media and kind of took note, who's this young guy,
you know, because he was so well spoken and outspoken and and then some journey into it right after
2020 turning point, USA decided to kind of make an intentional shift to go after spiritual leaders
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and pastors to bring them in to try to connect with them to inspire, to fire them up, I guess, because
one of the things that Charlie said that he said, you know, we're making some progress and he was
give glory to God. He said, but, you know, without the church, without the voice of the church,
like there's no way to save America. And this was, you know, 2020 and 21 and things were looking
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pretty dark at that time. And he said, if we don't have the voice of the church doesn't rise up, you
know, he can't be the only one out there talking about the controversial cultural issues that no one
wanted to talk about. And so I just had deep respect for him in that way that he was just willing to
lay it on the line, lay his life on the line. And so I got to be part, I got to know him, not really
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well, but enough that we've we had a couple conversations and then they invited me to speak at the
turning point faith here in Nashville. And that was just an honor to be part of a panel and
be able to speak into some of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and, you know, next, Jen, your son actually
spoke at the event, Daniel, and just just laid it down. And one of the messages you said, or the theme
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of his message, tell me what that was again. I mostly remember it, but I think you'll do it better.
So, so Daniel kind of dropped a bomb on the gathering the other night. He's 26 years old and he was
just talking about action and counter he had where it was a bottle school or a missions type school
and he hit all these young men. It was a large group of 250 young men. And the leader at the time
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put a microphone in the center of the stage and said, okay, I want any of you guys to begin to
speak into the cultural issues of today from a biblical perspective. And they sat there. They sat
there. We don't one minute, two minutes, five minutes. Finally, the leader said, listen, it goes,
this is ridiculous. Like all these men and no one knows how to speak into the culture from a
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biblical worldview. It goes, you all need to go back home right now. We're shutting this whole thing
down. Go go go go back to your your dorms where they were staying at the time and repent. Repent of
silence. There needs to be a repentance of silence of the men of our culture. So Daniel was spoken
to that and then he brought it around to like even a, you know, here right here in Franklin, Tennessee
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and you know, very religious place. But how many times have we not been the voice? You know, we've
been ashamed of the gospel or been politically correct rather than biblically correct. And so,
yeah, it was it was powerful. It was a yeah, you know, man. Thank you. Thank you, Daniel for doing that. And
you know, the silent majority, I guess you could say, we're we're we're recently seeing those being
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a lot less silent. And I believe that even speaking of repentance that we we need to repent for being
led, I won't say silenced, but led by the silent majority and led to stay silent, unfortunately.
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And so what I'm seeing recently in the culture of of of men, especially young men over the last
five years, the the arc of of young men returning to church. And like I told you before we started,
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I think that's beautiful. That's a litmus test of what's actually happening behind the scene in
culture. But in culture, young men seem to have an essence, whether they've done it in the way
that Daniel mentioned actual repentance of the heart, but just also being repentant to have been
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led by the crowd instead of speaking up and leading that crowd. And I just feel that the the
best example that I've seen of that in this modern day in the last five years or or more is
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Charlie. And you know, come, come in on on this, this quiet revival that I've seen in young man's
hearts. And it's recently it's become not so quiet. And I really like that a lot. And will you
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share with me the things that that spurred that possibly? And because you're a man of culture, I've
heard you speak on culture many times. So letter Rips. God, I want to hear it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I first saw
just I just think with with Charlie's life and his effort and the mission, the mandate of
turning point USA, I think it was absolutely prophetic name turning point. And just and I think
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there's even a returning point. I feel like there's some that are turning to the Lord for the first
time many actually. You see the stats already within less than a week almost. And then
but also a returning many protocols, many people also who've been silenced or chose to you know,
go and not on the front lines with the back row of the church or you know, I just feel like there's
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a real that that the death, the tragic death, you know, God's going to turn it for good. He already
is. And it's a flashpoint for our nation or everything's people are going to remember like what that
day and what happened. And you look at it. It's not just our nation like the nations just
resounding the ripple effect. I believe that Charlie just stood in the gap. I feel like he was a
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forerunner. He was a pioneer. He's willing to to put his voice out there and he was very articulate.
He was super respectful and kind when I met on the first time. I was like, he's like a big kid,
but totally joyful. You know, I heard an interview of his wife and his wife talked about how joyful he
always was and always how playful. I'm like, wow, a guy that you see on the camera, you see you do
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seem gentle and kind and very and firm and bold all at the same time. But but to all the things that
you know, he had to be faced. Oh, my word. Now we really know, but not my point is to to to to still have
joy exactly like with his with his kids and his wife and his as as as supposed time off. I can't
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imagine. Yeah, there's an atheist. I saw a testifying a young man who had been an atheist's whole
life and he said, you know, it really it wasn't his words. You know, obviously Charlie had wise and
persuasive words like like none other in some regard. But he said it was his peace and his joy
that brought him to the Lord. We realized this guy's got something I don't have like. And so sometimes
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it's the words and sometimes it's our countenance or our kindness. You know, and he just was a beautiful
package of all that. You know, and so I think God's, you know, I was reminded of Apostle Paul. I think
it's Philippians chapter one 21 for me to live as Christ and to die as gain. And obviously we think of
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that like if we're consumed with passion for Jesus and we're fully given loving him with all our
hearts, soul and mind and that's you know, living for Christ is recalled too biblically. But to die of
gain is what what obviously we're there. We're in heaven. We're there with the Lord. There's no more
pain. No more sorrow. But also I think there's that factor that we don't think about that many times
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when a person who's truly lived for Jesus, when they go home, there's not just gain in heaven and for
us personally is where with you, but there's gain on earth. Yeah. There's ramifications on earth.
Yeah. And I feel like I got spiritual bomb went off. Yeah. And it be, you know, and a lot of people
weren't aware of it. A lot of people were just described who's this guy that their friends up in
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Canada where I grew up were texts in and online just talking and they're trying to figure who's this guy?
Like what's the what's the ruckus all about? What's about one guy say what's the fuss all about one guy?
That dies people die all the time. But he was carrying something and when the and we feel it in the
body of Christ, if you're part of the body of Christ, which he was sincere for the Lord,
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everyone starts to feel it. And I think he was the first modern day martyr that we saw in real time
tragically, you know, hit the Western world. Yeah. It's happening by, you know, tragically by thousands
and thousands of other nations, but it didn't hit us like this. This was our culture and a voice to,
you know, even our politics and our, you know, our generation and the young generation. And it just,
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it just hits something. It hit a chord. Yeah. And God's using it mildly. I mean, I think it's going to
keep. Yeah. I think we're in the greatest awakening has begun. Wow.
Leading on to the greatest hardest. Yeah. Last day harvest. It's on. It's on. Yeah. It's on. I'm struck by
that scripture. I think it's I'm totally blanking on what it is. If it's Jesus or if it was Paul, but
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saying unless the seed dies and goes into the earth, it can't bring forth life. And then it will
bring forth fruit. And I'm like, that's what this was. It was this like, Hey, I know I wouldn't
presume to speak for Charlie, but given where he is that he is with Jesus and him seeing what happens,
I feel like he has this perspective that we could only dream to have and look at it and go, this
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caused all of this like all of this life. Like I don't know that he would trade it even even as
hard as that is to say. Yeah. It's just outrageous what happened. But to think like life and again,
hearing men that are going to church for the first time. Yeah. And happy about it. I saw several
influential like YouTuber people and stuff like that who are like, I'm going to church. Yeah,
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I love it. Never been to church before. Hey Stu, let's put that that that chimney chart, I call it,
that I sent you here on the screen to show growth over the last I believe it was five years.
So check this out. Check this out. This says a lot. Okay. Hey, what's that statement? Praise the Lord,
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though, for that stat. Like I said, that's just litmus that's test of what it's a picture of what's
going on in men's hearts. Yeah. When you only see the real dollar bills, you know, I'm probably going
with this, but you are you're able to see the counterfeit immediately. And you don't study counterfeits,
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you study the real thing. And I believe what's happening in this generation, Scott, man, we can talk for,
I've heard you speak so many times in this type of thing. So you just you take the wheel on this.
But I'm just saying that I believe that this generation has has has has unfortunately checked out
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some of the counterfeits just to see if they would work like there is no such thing as absolute truth or,
or well, this and that, well, you know, you should consider everything and things like that. And then
they found out that that didn't work. And because the half truths and untruths don't work.
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And now they've returned to to, well, let's go back to the to the basics to the truth. And I think
that's that's what we're seeing here because they found out that other stuff just didn't work. Yes.
Yeah. Yeah. What do you think? Is that there's people are looking for that which is real.
Especially young men, I think, you know, men, I think are attracted to truth and authenticity.
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And they they wish want something solid that they can build upon. And I think there's been so many
fabrications and lies. Yeah. And our culture, even the systems that we've we've been given, you know,
that have been collapsing right from the experts that say this and it's like oops.
Psych. That wasn't true. You know, so I think there's a lot of men just waking up and and
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realize and I got to find what's real. It's authentic. And and I believe that that Charlie
represented that he believed in the young generation when almost no one else did like the right
enough, a lot of people were right enough Gen Z. And he went and he went right into the lions then.
Yeah. And just allowed people to talk, you know, that you've heard that phrase where he talks about,
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you know, if we stop talking bad things happen, you know, it was about the freedom of speech and
debate, you know, when it when a marriage marriage stops talking divorce happens. And when we stop
talking violence comes, you know, and and and ultimately civil war, which we know the enemy would
love to shred this nation from the from the inside out. And so he represented that discourse of,
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you know, kindness and yet thoughtfulness and and he you know, he didn't just prove it through
biblical, which was his motivation. But he also said, I can prove it logically. I can we can think
these topics through. And you can see like physically or scientifically that that the Bible is true
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through and through and that God has a plan for every individual and the infinite value of of
every individual and and just his plan for marriage and family and children. He was saying
stuff that the culture was just so far away from him. And but so insanely basic. Yeah. That's
the basics marriage to man and woman of just the basics and man we've gotten so far away from the
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basics where the basics were were were were. Oh my god. The basics are considered obliterated.
Right. So insulting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my. It's destroyed. Yeah. So he just brought was bringing
us back to the touchstone of reality. And God's God's prototype God's template for mankind and
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his laws and his order. And he was just bringing that. And it makes sense to a lot of people. A lot of
people are attracted to that once they hear it. Yeah. And clarity. And he was willing to reach into
people that no one else was really ready to yeah. Ready to talk to a very few. You know. And so I think
he's a he's a prototype of who many men are to be and I think there's many rising rising. So we
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speak. So you know my my wife. Yes. Very well. She's and thank you. So it's so it's yours. And I don't
know why I'm so hesitant to give the names but anyway. Yeah. So they have beautiful names and
beautiful wives and thank you Lord for giving them to us. Amen. Amen. So my wife stepped in.
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Man she stepped into my office. She was watching the news. We knew he had been shot and she came
in there and she was she was re or tears will just all over her face and and they said that they
had killed Charlie and and that within five seconds she she looked at me and said when when one man
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of God like this goes down I can see a thousand rising. And and I thought of that and that
emboldened me for for for for at least a couple days. I'm like that's right. A thousand will rise
like Charlie. But what I've seen on the news and across the internet it's not a thousand. It's
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hundreds hundreds of thousands. And I love that it's not just the United States. It's all over the
world. And no idea like Korea. No idea what? And you can. Yeah. Yeah. You can't. Like millions. Yeah.
Like I mean crazy crazy stuff. So that's that's just another picture of the litmus test of that
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that God is doing. Yeah. And the beauty of this movement is you know there's no buildings burnt
down no retaliation of evil. Yeah. You know there's just like there's actually peace and prayer. Yeah.
Providials and I'm just so grateful for that because you know you know a man buys fruit and you know
the fruit of his labor and and even a movement you can see by the fruit like it's so there's
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I'm just rejoicing in the good fruit and the people you know in in a very polite and prayerful way
are but starting to take a stand. Yeah. With boldness and determination. Yeah. Yeah.
So standing on truth. What's the saying? They thought that we were they could kill us but they
found out we were only see something like that. Yeah. And that's what I'm I'm I'm seeing. And
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man I saw the interview with his wife and she said probably five or six times she looked right
in the camera and she was talking to you know the the the the the the masses that would appreciate him
dead I guess and who she was speaking to and she kept on saying you have no idea what you've done.
And and I think that you know I don't think that was a vengeful statement like I'm going to get you
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it was the opposite it was you've you've triggered tens of tens of our hundreds of thousands of
people that now are going to find their voice then now they're going to see that their life is
short now they're going to see that there is no reason to stay silent when truth can defend itself.
Yes. That's what Charlie did. He stayed just like Billy Graham. Billy Graham sermons were insanely
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basic basic. He preached he preached sin. He preached repentance. He preached the cross. He preached
the resurrection and every single sermon had that in it and then he gave you a chance to respond
to the gospel and and that's one of the beautiful things that I saw you know Charlie do he's
state started stayed with the basics. I'm talking male female. Yeah. Truth untruth lies.
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Things like that. You said burn down I couldn't help but think my my pastor on Sunday spoke
and I wrote down several things he said and you you talked about burning down and he said we don't make
Jesus King by burning things down. We make him King by lifting him up and I thought that was a great
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picture of of Charlie's life and Charlie's words and what we can stand for you know some some people
I want to gather and congregate and and you know and you know hold pits forks or something but
but instead we lift up our our king yeah not burn things down and I don't think that we're going
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to be burning. I just don't see these people that truth resonates with like this and you're willing
to stand up is going to burn anything down yeah they're certainly going to be lifting the king up
yes that's what my prayer yeah and it's we're in a time where the church has to go public with the
gospel and with our faith with our voice when the church goes silent the culture goes violent
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and and you know you look if there's violence and with abortion violence in the womb there'll be
violence in the streets I mean that you can't just ignore these cultural issues that go against
God's design and so I really believe that we're in a we're in a time where you know the voice of
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the church the roar of the righteous will be heard again in our land and the the righteous are as
bold as a lion and so that roar is being restored restore the roar you know people find in their
voice and I do believe that you know for too long the church has been not insulated isolated and
constipated that's what Lord told me that years ago I said that's what's wrong with my church
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and he broke down in each of those insulated isolated constipated and and he said but but I
interrupt this regular program with a public service announcement he said he said the church is
going to come out of the regular programming the way we do it and kind of in our own little bubble
own world speak you know sing into the choir talking to ourselves and he's going to interrupt with
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public it's time to serve the public it's time to get out with servant hearts and get back in society
and and be the salt in the light they were called to be and that's why I love even the
podcast world I think it's it's interrupting the regular programming of the church which was kind of
in its own zone and and what you guys are doing it's like the the podcasts are becoming the
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God casts and it's really casting truth generation that they they find they're finding God right here
yeah you know we got to use it the technology for good yeah and it's it's a profound time to be alive
because I think that we're going to see a real shift where I see in it yeah yeah I told
Stu when I pretty soon after I met him that when I heard that he was doing some podcast things I said
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I I don't need another project and I don't think the world needs another podcast per say yeah
but what I do think is important is that we create a a weekly program that disciples men's hearts
and calls them love forward to be the man they're created to be not a one off not a get not a
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not a big gathering and you go home charged up person and that's wonderful I love gatherings I
love going home charged up but but something that's consistent where where where where young man and
men can can can can can come and listen to podcasts maybe they missed two or three and they can get
they can just get all all filled up filled up by I'm that's my that's my prayer that's why we did it
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and have something ongoing where you can dip into yeah like that yeah this is it's I think it's
important and it's in its fresh it's it's always new and I personally as as artists I like that
I like to hear new perspectives you know and and and go deep so so where do you see
the the effects of how this is affected hearts here and culture where you think this may go
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just even and I was going to say five years if you want to go there do that but even in the next
year yeah what do you see seeing happen because of Christ's church the church the all caps church the
the his his body of believers in this world doing with this current event yeah well and I say there's
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a scripture says when the enemy comes in like a flood the spirit of the Lord a raise up a standard
against him and I feel like you know we've been flooded with evil and perversion for decades I mean
we've been on a downward spiral general in morality and you know the lack of truth in our society
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that you know and being replaced with insanity stuff that doesn't make sense I mean it's
almost like the enemy overplayed his hand where people are just starting to figure out like
logically even they're starting to go away say that don't make sense you know yeah this trans cult
that doesn't make sense like you know we're coded in our DNA male or female you know it's like
amen remember where you were do do you think don't you think that we all knew that anyway
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but nobody said anything about it and Charlie did yeah but and about to my point that's what I'm
saying yeah so we knew we knew we know that yeah in our effort nobody was really speaking up about it
yeah it's just easy to get intimidated by the loud and scary voices that yeah seem angry and
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threatening and if you say something just questioning even not even like being mean you you will get
you know a lot of it is being motivated by love that were compelled to go into darker places or
controversial places and like out of out of love that we we got we got to go like we go out on
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Friday night some Broadway which is insanity in real time we're doing that for almost seven years
yeah my the hovers done it self-times my son he's been a guest on the early days of it I sure was yeah
and and so you see everything like you get to talk to people from all over the world and
people are drunken out of their minds and everything you can imagine you know people that are demonized
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and and then many people that are seeking truth and they can't believe there's Christians out here
actually yeah actually sharing Jesus and in real time like right you know and I had a guy from
just recently as a minister of evangelist from from Amsterdam he can imagine Amsterdam the dark
the darkness there for four years yeah with the red light district so so he comes to Nashville just
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like six months ago and he has a ministry goes worldwide in the streets and they worship and they
bring Jesus to the street and he was in Nashville and he said it was so crazy he he literally did his
his broadcast from the streets and and it was during the daytime I think on a Friday he didn't know
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that we were getting ready to bring an army to the streets Friday night but he was down there in the
afternoon and he literally said this is like being in hell like the the the worldliness and the
celebration of of the Bakery and you know drunkenness and and everything and wet women scantily
dressed I mean this is this is our Nashville you know like at Nashville all it's about to say are
you talking Amsterdam no we're talking Nashville how how it's become yeah and he said he said this
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is like he goes where are the Christians and and then we met up with him and he came to our
worship time and he realized there is an army going out in the dark to share Jesus and then we had a
great connect and you know but I just feel like where we're going now is there really is a standard being
raised up like a like a flood yeah a standard we raised up against literally against the evil one
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against the evil tell me tell me what standard is so standard is back to the plumb line of God
like the designer of this whole existence right that he actually has a mind on the matter of almost
any genre of culture right yeah government politics education raising families you know it's it's
it's there's a divine design and and he he knows he wants what's best for us he's prescribed through
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the Bible what's best for us and the more that we veer from that the more pain and insanity comes
upon humanity and you can see it we've lived through a lot of that sadly but I believe that plumb
line that standard through the body of Christ through those who are bold you know who will like like a
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apostle Paul was touched on in a minute ago in Philippians he talks about he prays that he would have
the courage was Charlie Kirk said he wanted to be known for his courage his faith will Paul says
and that I'd have the adequate courage to stand up and and he said whether by life or by death
he said to the like so I think the church has to come back to that that place of you know what
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like the original definition of being a witness in the in the New Testament it actually in the
Greek meant to be a martyr so from the get-go from the sign in the contract from the beginning you
realize that you will be my martyrs you will be my witnesses and I feel like there's a this sounds
kind of outrageous but I literally believe there's a joy and honor of being a martyr is going to
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actually come to the Western church the fatten happy church you know that there's just you know
over materialized and drunken with the things of this world I think there's literally that's partly
what was unveiled through this tragedy though so graphic okay um that literally people are going
oh I don't care what I want things I I want to stand for Jesus I don't know my life to count like
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right what am I living for all this temporary cry and so I just believe there's that it's huge it's
huge it's a mega shift from the spirit realm that's happening you know it's contagious it's
getting on it's contagious you know I'm praying for more contagiousness I'm praying that it
that that turns in contagious turns into other contagious I don't know how to talk to say I hope
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that it catches I hope that it sticks it's already caught yeah and I don't know the Lord just done
something in me as a you know that has some some voice in in this space of trying to disciple
men and that I'm I'm absolutely emboldened to be more clear with the truth and and and and filled
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with with more just asking for more power when it's time to speak the truth and and and that's
and if I'm only one and I don't I want to be only I don't want to be the only one I want to be only
one as in let in other words there's so many more out there that's that's my that's my prayer yeah
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really genuinely is yeah um Scott I want to I want to I want to read you as but I want to read to the
our listeners and our viewers one of the last speeches that the Charlie made where
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it will speak to you I think directly it's amazingly prophetic and it is to men and it is if you're
a man this is to you and pray that it it is it penetrates your heart this is a blessing this is like
Charlie blessing you as well as charging you and sending you out and calling you forward that's
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what he's doing here he says the question is will Christian men commit to what really matters
to the divine to the beautiful to the good with courage and with purpose the next time that you're
confronted this is Charlie this this you can hear him say this with saying the hard thing and the
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honest thing and you know it comes at a price at your flesh or yourself you say the true thing
the next time you see somebody who is suffering or is being treated unjustly and you can intervene
do something about it you stand up to the bully put your own neck out there and you choose what is
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right over what is comfortable the most masculine people that I know are the ones that go into the
places where they are not welcome they are not invited that they are boot off stage and will proclaim
the truth anyway that's what it means to be a man those are his words they know if men and Christian
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men start to recommit to the truths of the promises of the Bible this country will be saved I hope you do
thanks so much God bless you guys wow yeah man it's wild how truth resounds even after someone's death
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you know if there are plenty of people who've said things that sounded good at the moment but nobody
remembers it and this it's like this will go on forever right yeah it's amazing amazing man
so I wrote this this morning that I want to get it right I'm going to read it to you and I hope that
you you hear it in your heart the crowd has been speaking very loudly for years now some of us need
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to repent from following the crowd even Bible believing Jesus loving Christians need to be
repent right now for the following of the crowd for too many years some of you just need to repent
for the very first time repent means going in one direction and doing an about facing heading serving
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yourself now serving Jesus some of you just need to repent even right now for the first time making
Lord Jesus the Lord of your life I want to leave you with one last thought this clip and then we're
going to come right back these are Charlie's words of what he says is the most important thing you can do
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in your life Jesus is the way the truth and the life Jesus is Lord Christ is King and Jesus is God
we as Christians are called to go into the public arena to correct error with truth yep Lord use me
here I am Lord use me as an instrument for your will Christ is all grace and all truth when in
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reality Christ loves us too much to have us continue living sin he wants us to try to elevate our actions
to glorify God and all that we do what happens when we die the answer is if you give your life to
Jesus you have life and life everlasting which is the greatest hope for all of us God loves justice Jesus
saved my life I'm a sinner give my life to Christ most important decision I ever made if I was dying
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right now I had 30 seconds to live yes what was you say to me to that I have no any Christ because
your Lord and Savior who is Jesus Christ is the most important question in the world you can be
completely nourished and satisfied spiritually just with Jesus people need to humble themselves before
the Lord they need to go back to church they need to get married before they have sex they need to
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stop engaging in debauchery and limitless amounts of drinking in the sins of the flesh and understand
that there's a God who loves them that wants them to live a certain way but a revival will only
happen with repentance and repentance is at odds with pride there is a God and we are not him those two
things are fundamental towards having hopefully the humility of getting in front of your creator
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understanding that you fall short of the glory of God eyes on the cross and understanding the
significance what the cross is and what it means for your life and with that will come widespread
nationwide change stop sinning Christ wants us to be salt and light now what are the two characteristics
of salt and light they change the environment that they come in contact with they do not affirm
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they do not conform they change for the better it's very important everybody we as Christians are
called to change the environment that we come in touch with you got 30 seconds in 30 seconds you're
about to meet eternal judgment and there's only one way that you can get bail out of that it's not
all the good things you did or the moral scorecard is whether or not you have Jesus Christ as your Lord
in saying and so you have 10 seconds left to die from a gunshot wound I mean you ask a question
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who is Jesus Christ and the answer to that singular question who is Jesus Christ is the most
important question for everyone of the audience not how much money you have not much good stuff you do
it is who is Jesus Christ you might say oh Jesus was you know a teller of good tales or Jesus
was a good person or Jesus historical figure none of that's going to cut it it's whether or not you
repent and you ask Christ to come in as your Lord and Savior that's the only thing that will save you
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from eternal judgment all that matters to God is not black or white or republican or Democrat
it's saved or unsaved are the only things that matter to Christ Jesus I want to be remembered for
for courage for my faith that that would be the most important thing so that's all pretty amazing
evidence not just intramidable governance but extrabible governance that Jesus Christ was a real person
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he lived a perfect life he was crucified died and rose on the third day and he is Lord and Donald
Rolf and I hope you find Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior because it will change your life
you guys the the crowd has been speaking very loudly for years and some of us need
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to repent for following the crowd some of us need to repent that love Jesus and know Jesus but yield
but still have have yielded to fear and so there are some that have never repented never asked Jesus
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to be the Lord to be the boss of their lives repented means going in one direction and and
turning in about face and facing Jesus not serving you serving Jesus if you'd like to make that that
opportunity yours right now I can help lead you my words are not perfect but but but you're the
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position of your heart of humility is what is absolutely required here just to have a humble heart
as we repent and and and a beautiful prayer as I need you a beautiful prayer is help so to your
king you can say Jesus I need you I see to step out of heaven and into my heart I ask that you use
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my life to do your will from now on I ask that my words would would would just resonate and become
as your words Jesus I thank you follow for for allowing truth to come into the world and giving
me an example of what that looks like with your son Jesus and God I need you I'm a sinner I repent
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thank you for dying on the cross for me thank you for rising again and I give my life to you
be the boss and the lord of my life I want to serve you in Jesus name thank you amen and amen
guys you if that was a prayer of repentance and you know Jesus praise the Lord
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I see a lot just in in Jesus name got three ministers three and we are agreeing that that would
be sealed him and you he would use you he would send you out to the world they would give you a
freedom to speak up freedom to to choose truth over fear truth will defend itself even Paul was
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sent into the courts I believe it was Paul he said I don't if I don't know what to say it doesn't
matter you're going to show me what to say that's faith that's trust that's that's intervention
of the Holy Spirit getting to know Jesus um
will be the calling of your life in in Jesus name and helping others know more and get to know him
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so for those that just ask him to come into your life for the very very first time praise the Lord
we yet we want to be here for you uh please don't ever think that you're having to do this alone
there's several things one is you can just literally reach out to dudes at standupdood.com that's
an old fashioned email we will get in touch with you we want to serve you we also if we have a website
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standupdood.com you can go uh hit standupdood.com/stand and you're going to be offered tons of growth paths
there's like five or six or seven of them they're great I've used them all they're field tested they're
free so we we offer that to you please utilize those um for those that we're walking with Christ and
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just made a repentance of of of of of of of recognition that you've been following the crowd
hey man um welcome to to to to your your your new calling scripture says stand in the faith
and act like men and all the things that you do be done in love so we love you guys we want to
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stay in touch hey Scott thank you for being here brother yeah here you here you are we did it we
we spoke truth and we hope that we called other men forward to do the same and um how can people
find you if they would like to connect with you you're doing some great things here in nasa if you're
going to come in here to nasaville you need to come check out your church number one what is
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what's telling the name and yeah and where that's located right downtown nasaville and it's harvest
sound.com you can find us through the website of course um there's also a lot of young people or
there's quite a few that follow fireplace nasaville which is our Friday night outreach and
you can see all kinds of testimonies of miracles on the streets and we just it's so pretty amazing
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and there's something really special how do they sign up for fire fireplace. Oh fire place you to
show up seven p.m. on a Friday night every Friday night where till Jesus comes back 1419
Clinton Street we've been doing it for 32 years 1419 every Friday night worship and we equip people
and we send them out to share Jesus in real time you know real talk it don't just talk about it
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so yeah it's all said when it's all said when it's all said I'm doing is better than what you're
talking about yeah yeah yeah when it's all said and done there's a lot more said than there is this
done you know so we try to change that and put it in action let's go one other thing that's really
special I want to just mention real quick that we have a documentary coming out which is the last
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10-year trajectory of my son when he said yes to Jesus his name is Daniel and it's just called Jesus
mission documentary and it comes out next month it's been a couple years making it put it but just
the army of young people that have said yes to Jesus it kind of follows about seven young people
and the ups and the downs and I mean there's everything from miracles to death to to you know just
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controversy to it's it's quite a quite a journey we have one young man who my son let him watch
this documentary when it was 96% done and he just exploded he just said I got to do a fireplace
on my campus he's at Auburn University and and Dan said okay let's go you know and and so they
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launched fireplace Auburn now there's like six or seven other campuses all want nothing it's just
teaching people to be bold and equipping them to share their their faith their testimony
on a shame to the gospel and I spreading like fire and so it's just part of the crescendo of God
that we're in at the end of the eight so get ready get ready get ready yeah so watch for Jesus
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mission documentary coming out soon Jesus mission documentary yeah super cool well thank you guys so
much for tuning into this episode make sure that you follow up on the links that we are going to put
in the show notes and definitely check out that documentary when it comes out we'll see you next time
yeah hey I want to say one thing I've never said before in the show notes I've never said this
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but you're going to find a link if you would like to help us reach men we're doing it all across
tick-tock uh for reaching the young man we're seeing about 50 young men a day come to Jesus and we'd
like for you invite you to please help us do that um it's it's uh we do something called interrupt
of marketing it's taking the Jesus sign that's on the side of the road that you can ignore and we're
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putting it right in the middle of the highway uh and and and and it interrupts the the the the flow of
the stream that you may be in and we we lovingly tell you the truth and and men are deciding to follow Jesus
if you can we would like to help us do that we sure would appreciate it we're also building a giant
discount discipleship um platform in the background on school SK OOL um all of these things if
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you're felt led to do so you can help us wear a non-profit praise the Lord uh the link will be
right here there for you thank you um good bye
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