How Men Break Free from Isolation and Addiction | Brian Summers - The Stand Up Dude Podcast

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I'm a huge believer. If you have a good product, we don't need to give this count.

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And people esteem too lightly that's what they haven't paid a high price for.
And so if you want a woman, you're going to have to pay a high price for it.
And there's something beautiful about paying a high price because you value it.
Hi, welcome to the stand up dude show. This is Tim Bisagno and I'm Stewart White.

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Hey, we got a great show for you guys today. Our guest, his name is Brian Summers. He's the host of
Created to Win. It's a podcast where conversation about purpose, spiritual warfare,
relationships and emotional health get hold into real life with straight talk and scripture.
He records out of Franklin Tennessee. He's also a worship artist with singles including

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I love Jesus with all my heart, more than enough, and on time God, which we are going to be speaking to
him about further into the episode today. Brian's aim is simple. Point men to Jesus, build real
community and help you fight the right battles. Brian, welcome to stand up dude. We're really glad
to have you here. So what would the advice be that you would give to a man who feels like he knows

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he's saved but he still feels stuck. How would you help him find that rhythm or whatever that is
that gets him back to Jesus so that he doesn't, he's not living these two opposite ideas in his mind.
Yeah, it's a question. Yes, such a good question. First of all, I want to thank you guys so much
just honor and privilege to be on your guys podcast and to develop this relationship with you guys.

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I'm really excited. It's going to be cool. I can tell I was thinking the same.
Yeah, so excited to answer your question. I think so oftentimes as Christians and as men,
we sometimes focus too, not too much, but we focus our relationship. This is just looking to God,
but so much God gave us the church for a reason. And so it's all about who you know and getting

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around people who know Jesus. Like for example, I did a podcast last night with eight guys and we got
around and I was so fired up about pursuing the Lord more because I got around just seven guys,
eight, including me and we call that an octopon. Yes, we do. We do call that. I was just going with it.

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Good. I was like really. I'm over here. I'm over here. I'm going to steal that.
And I was just so inspired. You know, I had there a couple guys younger than me. There's some,
you know, guys older than me and people in different seasons of life. And we just got around.
We're just talking and I was so inspired. So I would say when you're saved and you're feeling stuck,
it's a get around people are on fire and they'll light you up. I love that. Yeah. That is super good.

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I love that because that has that that scriptural element of like the iron sharpening iron. Yeah.
You know, it's not just like a good recommendation. It is what's necessary. Like we are the church.
We're to be in community. We're to be in relationship. And you know, as you know, as we've talked about
on the show, that is one of the biggest things that men struggle with. Christian men today.

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I was just thinking, not Christians too, but Christian men almost by the same comparison. It's not
that much of a difference. Like, yeah, I don't have relationship where people truly know me where I
have transparency and accountability and everything else. And I think it is something that's very lacking.
So I'm really glad that you're you're here today. I appreciate you answering that opening question

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there. Yeah. So tell us a little more about yourself. Like you obviously we mentioned you host a show
of your own. You also are a worship artist. Tell us a little more about all that.
Yeah. So for me, I love to I'm a creator. Yeah. So I think more what lights me up is just

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collaborating and creating using the gifts that God's given me. So whether that's writing songs,
or putting together podcasts, I'm also a networker as well. I love connecting with people.
And really just bringing the church together and activating people. I like to really build
things that build out the church, if that makes sense. Yeah. I think so oftentimes we think like,

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oh, what's God's purpose for my life? Well, it's really just read the Bible and go do that.
Yeah. It's not that big of a mystery. It's like pursue personal holiness and then just use the
gifts and the opportunities in front of you. Have a pure heart and then just go for it. So that's
really my mentality. It's good. Whether it's music or podcasting, business ventures, whatever it is
that's on my heart. I'm just going to have a heart to seek versus kingdom to build as kingdom

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and go from there. Yeah. It's funny. Say that. I've been thinking a lot more on
without faith. It's impossible to please God. But James talks about faith without action really.
Without works is how he calls it. But he's really saying faith ends up taking action.
What you're describing is like, hey, read it, understand it, go do it and do it in faith.

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Yeah. Instead of sitting down and just going, well, I read it. But what does that mean to you?
How does that transform your life? Yeah. And one of my favorite verses, maybe in my life verse,
would be it's in the gospels where Jesus says, whoever has my commandments and keeps them. Yeah.
He it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my father. And I will manifest myself

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to him. So if you want to manifest presence and grace of God on your life, obey his commandments.
Yeah. We're not saved by what we do. We're saved because of the work of Jesus on the cross.
But there's so much more beyond that. I mean, when we just out of the love that we have for Jesus,
that I want to obey him. Yeah. You know, I don't want to hurt my friends and do what they don't want

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me to do. I don't want to hurt God. Yeah. You know, I want to obey him because he saved me. Yeah.
And what's so cool is when we actually just again, learn how to just do what his word says.
That's where the anointing, the it's all, it's all Jesus. It's all God. Yeah. And it's because we're
doing it for him. We're building his kingdom. It's not about me and how great I am. It's how great he is.

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And we're just simply obeying. And again, that's where it's like that secret sauce comes in,
that manifest presence of the Lord. Yeah. Well, I love how, how simple you made it. You know, we
said here last week and talked about purpose. And you know, we, we thought it was a fantastic show.
You know, purposes of a wide topic, but I love how you just basically boiled it down. You do it.

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The Bible says. Yeah. And then what was this? There was two things. And then you go do it. Yeah. Well,
you read it. You read it. You then you do it. You read it and whatever opportunities are in front of
you, you know, as long as you don't as long as you have peace about it, just do it. Yeah. Go over
spiritualize it. Yeah. Yeah. And the, you know, I don't know if it's favor because you did the work

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per se, but it's favor just by being with Jesus. Yeah. That that happens when you, when you spend time
with him like that. And, you know, without doing purpose without favor, you know, it just sounds like
work. Yeah. To me, but when when when when when purpose is combined with with favor of the Lord,

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that little spice it season it with some perseverance. Yeah. Shoot. Yeah. That's where beauty happens.
Well, man, thank you for again for also as we've said, thanks for being here.
You know, you've you've got a new world record. I don't know if you know about this,
but I don't want to talk about some of your records as well. There's so many or songs that you've

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written. There's so many things I heard in that introduction that I thought I kind of knew you,
but I realized I didn't. So I want to talk about a couple things. Yeah. Three, one of them is,
I love that you said you're an artist in near the beginning of the show. That's really, I love that.
I love that. That's my top. That's me if I didn't have anything else. I'm that. Yeah. And the other

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pieces stack around it and I try to make sense of the world and these other things with being an
artist. So I identify. Yeah. So thank you so much. I also want to know a little bit more about this
warfare. Okay. Okay. And I want to know about your some of the artistries piece that you do. And then

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lastly, and I want to know about what we talked about when we met. Yeah. What I was joking and saying
you have a new world record is you're the quickest guest that I've met who actually ended up on the
show. I think it's less than a week, which is crazy. I think I met you Saturday and this is like,
I don't know what Thursday. And so most of the time it's months to to I don't know a year. So here we go.

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So thank you for for making that work. If you don't mind, it was the third thing I was going to
mention. When we talked, you, you talked about women and men, yeah, relationships, how they look
today in today's culture. And you know, there's a lot of years between you and me and we,

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relationships with male and female and dating. We talked a lot about dating and not dating. We talked
about pre-internet and now internet. So I want to hear wisdom there that that I actually want to
bring up here because I think our listeners will greatly identify with some of the things that you
mentioned where it was just cool knowledge to me. But I think they're going to be going, yeah, that.

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So let's talk about maybe how men, young men specifically, I think, walk into dating nowadays
differently than what they used to put possibly and what's caused that and what's the beautiful

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side of that that God is always creating and making wonderful. So tell us about how your perspective on
men and how the advance into dating nowadays. Yeah, that's a great question. So for me, I'm a millennial.
I'm 36 years old. So I also, you know, there, I was, you know, in the dating pool, per se when I was

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younger, when there wasn't really the whole of the tender and then the apps and things like that.
And then that all became a thing. And so I've seen a lot and one big difference with young men today
is it's very much app driven and we've lost the ability to form authentic communications. Like
people don't know how to walk up to someone and just shake your hands and say, hey, my name's Brian.

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Yeah, you know what I mean? And so people, a lot of these young generation, they don't know how to talk.
Just like, hey, just like look someone, this is like communication one on one, I contact first, you know,
then you smile, you show your, you show your friendly, you know, hi, you know, just taking that risk.
And a lot of people is like sliding into DM. So that's, that's a lot of the difference. And I think

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people have lost the ability to just, you know, talk to people in real life. They're too worried about
being awkward and of fear of man kind of things like, hey, what are people going to think of me sort of
things? So that's, that's the dynamic that we're dealing with now. Yes. Yeah. So what, what, you were

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just mentioning different culturally relevant things that have built that. Now we all know the apps,
you know, that's everybody out there who's 20 to 40 is going, you know, yeah. But what,
what can we, what, how can we take it from there? Yeah. And, and make this thing. What about the guy that,

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that, that has a hard time looking at somebody in the eye? What, what about the guy that has a hard
time walking up to a girl? What about that guy? Because that, that's a real deal. Yeah. Well,
some bad news. It's not going to be easy. Thanks for the honesty. You know, you just got to kind of
do it and fail forward. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and you probably will get rejected. Yeah. That's a part

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of it. I think that that men are, are much more afraid of as then stay away from the potential of
rejection. Right. Where we, before there was no other choice. Sure. You, you, you, you, you, you, you,
you tighten your bootstrap and walk up and, and, and say hello. Yeah. And, and fear them walking away or
saying, um, what, what, what do you, you know, whatever? So I'm a huge believer in, if you, because

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you use a business term, if you don't have, if you have a good product, we don't need to give good,
we don't need to give discounts. Yeah. And people esteem too lightly, that's what they haven't paid
a high price for. And so if you want a woman, you're going to have to pay a high price for it.
You're going to have, then the price might not be monetary like I'm giving, yeah, although you
might have to spend the money to take her out for coffee or whatever. But, but really it's like, hey,

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the price you're paying is I'm going to be a man of God. I'm going to learn how to put myself together.
I'm going to take the risk and the risk is, as risk, risking rejection. Yeah. That's the price
that you have to pay. And there's something beautiful about paying a high price because you value it.
When I paid money to go to Disneyland, you better bet I was enjoying myself because I, I spent a lot

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of money for those tickets. Yeah. So something, um, I noticed a lot of people will realize like, if I
want to get stronger in the gym, I have to put in the time and the reps and the, uh, you know,
visits to the gym to actually make a difference. And I have to move heavy things, right? Yeah.
Like it's hard work. And if I said, well, I tried once, I went to the gym and I didn't get a six-pack.

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The first time people would go, yeah, that's dumb. But that is a lot of the times the way we handle
relationships and other things that we find difficult. Um, that, that saying of people are more afraid
of public speaking than dying. So meaning, like I think, uh, it was a comedian, he said, so that means
you would rather be the one in the casket at the funeral than the one giving the eulogy at the funeral.

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And that's where a lot of us live. It's so trapped in this fear. And it's like, well, if I try once,
I'll get rejected. Yeah, you probably will. Oh, well, guess what? What happens after 100 times?
Yeah, 1000 times. You get really good at being rejected. First of all, and you realize, oh,
I had this built up as this like mega failure in my mind that nothing happened to like the world

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didn't end. Yeah. She didn't throw hot coffee in my face. Yeah. And I've been rejected before and
actually earned respect within those friendship circles because they're like, well, he actually had the
guts to ask me out. Wow. So a best, I mean, if you're asking out a quality person, though, actually,
like I've had girls tell me like, hey, no, I'm good. But like I really respect you for doing that. Yeah.

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Hey, I would say thank you. Yeah. I think that's awesome. I like that girl. I'm sorry. She said, no,
it's all good. But I'm dating someone else now. So we're good now. Yeah. What? I'm dating someone
else now. So we're good. I got to say something about what what Stuja said about working out. I was a
corporate fitness major in college. And so I always, you know, I had knowledge, right? I had

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knowledge. But at the end of the day, I like to advise people that the hardest thing about going to
the gym is putting on your tennis shoes. Wow. If you'll put on your tennis shoes on your workout day,
you will probably find yourself in that gym. Okay. But you leave them off and then you're still playing
ping pong of going to the gym or not. And so I couldn't help but relay that to showing up.

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You can't let God can't show off. You know, if you don't show up. And so you continue to show up.
It's like putting the tennis shoes on is the part about stepping up and opening your mouth and asking,
you know, and you put them back on again and you put them back on again. And after a while,

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you're going to get some some some yeses. And you know, be serious about the ones that you ask.
This is not practice for you. This is putting your heart out there. Yeah. And when you finally find
that person that works out, you're going to appreciate it more. And you're going to treat it with
value. Well, thank you for that. Let's talk about warfare is is if you had to mention three things that

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you are think are important that you're knee deep and at least it's warfare. Tell me what that means to
you and and how it can be applied to our listeners. Yeah, like spiritual warfare. So huge. What is it?
Well, the good news is one third of the angels followed Satan. What also means that two thirds

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still on the good side of you. So so there's more good than there is bad. But there there is a
reality of so much spiritual warfare. I think what's killing particular men is pornography because they're
they're opening up. I believe demonic portals. And that's opening up demonic doors. And so a lot of men

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because they're washing these things. So that's a that's a huge thing that I'm seeing. I think Satan
is becoming more and more open. And so that's that's very concerning for me. Is this the the attack
and the lot of gossip. There's there's a lot of different spiritual warfare that is going on.

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That is very concerning. And that's why it's so important to go back to what we were talking about.
Like, Hey, whoever has my commandments and keeps them. He it is who loves me and in and we'll experience
the manifest power. And again, we're not saved by our works, but fear the Lord is the beginning of

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wisdom. Like we should actually have a reverential fear for God. Like I don't want to sin. I don't want
to go watch something and open up a demonic portal into my life and have the enemy get a foothold.
Yeah, I fear God too much for that. Like I love the Lord. But I also fear him because the reality is
is like I can go do some really dumb stuff. I like John Maxwell. He said, we're always one step

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away from stupid or one decision away. Like you can be, you know, going great. And then you just
make one bad decision in your life in chaos. And so I don't want to open up these spiritual doors.
I I want to have the manifest presence of God. I want all that God has for me. Nothing more
and nothing less. And what what's killer is I think one of the biggest enemies to men that the

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enemy speaks into them is this idea of like becoming complacent. I think that's one of the biggest
killers because if we don't want all that God has for us, we're all we're going to settle for less.
And then that's when the slow compromise comes in. Yeah. And so it's like we've really got to like,
I don't know, crank it up a little bit. And that's why it's so important. Like what you guys are

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talking about in one of your previous shows where we're in a friendship recession. It's so important
to get men of God together to really light the fire. Like the the cure for spiritual warfare
is to get people together for me, for example, because isolation is the opposite. And that's when

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you get attacked. If you're a soldier on that battlefield by yourself, you're just a big open
target. Yeah. That is the enemy's game plan is always to get sin into someone's life. Whatever it is,
let's just say porn, for example, and he's going to get them to never guide and never talk about it.
And just being his little isolated area. And then the enemy has a field day with it. That's the

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enemy strategy. So the cure towards any sin or anything ever, obviously going to God in prayer,
but getting around in community and getting around godly men and women who can really help you.
You know, I think there is a correlation, a link between pornography and

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this working out idea that we just mentioned. I think they're very similar in that we want the
benefits of exercise, but we don't go to the gym. We want the benefits of relationship without
putting ourselves out there. We want the benefits of sex without doing the work. And so the more we

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entrain ourselves with that, which is pornography, the more we entrain ourselves with not risking,
not putting ourselves out there, not lifting heavy things.
Ultimately, the most lazy selfish route, like you take. Yeah. Yeah. Which again goes back. We
esteem to lightly that's which we don't pay high enough price for. And I'm just a believer in paying

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the price for things. Yeah. You know, Jesus paid. Jesus showed his worth or I'm sorry, showed how much
he loved us. He was willing to die for us. He paid the ultimate price. You know, if you love
something, if you want something, you're going to have to pay a price and there's not, it's not
we can't look for the easy way out. I'm all about burning less mental calories and being more

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efficient, like I'm working smarter, not harder. Yeah, I'm not saying don't do that, but there's
an element where we have to pay a high price. We have to pay the price. We have to be in God's word.
We have to show up. And if not, there's always going to be compromised. And that's again, where the
enemy will start to work in. He weasels in. Yeah. And it's so true. So where do you see like when

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men are willing to begin paying that price? Where do you see the corner turning for them? Like
how quickly? You know, because a lot of guys believe in the instant support. Yeah. I can't like,
it's a part of me. They really believe it's like part of their identity. Yeah. That like,
they'll lose something if they give that up. When they do, what do you see as the transformation in them?

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Yeah. I think it's getting healthy emotionally and finding out what's really going on within the heart.
Because if they're, unless there's assumed, you know, you're already your save, you're in church,
you're in community, and it's still a struggle, I would say just getting emotionally healthy and
getting to the root of the issue. I think in this particular issue with most guys and I'll even use

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myself because I did struggle with that in the past. And what got me free was when my relational
cup was full, never even a issue. And they're crazy. Yeah. And because of what it was is when I used to
turn to those bad lust habits. Now, I didn't even have the language to even vocalize this at the time

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because I was like tone deaf to my heart. In the sense of like, there's people, for example,
who are tone deaf. Like you hear them saying and you're like, oh, they're bad. And they don't know
they're bad. You know what I mean? And so a lot of men, including myself at one point, I was tone
deaf to the voice of my heart and what was really going on. I didn't have the language to even say,

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I'm lonely. Yeah. All I knew was something was off. And so something was off. And so a coping method
would be like going to lust, for example. But now like starting to understand, okay, I'm actually,
oh, you know what? I'm feeling lonely. Which just needs that just shows me the need of my heart
is to be seen. And if I don't do that and get in community, a negative coping habit will be to

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lust because it creates a false connection with a woman. It's and so that's I believe, this is a
personal theory of mine. I could be totally wrong. But I don't think men are so into sex as we might
think we are. I think it's even darker and more depressing than that. I think there's a lot of men

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out there in our society today who are actually just so lonely. That's the one of the root causes.
And because of this loneliness, because there's this friendship recession like you're talking about,
and they're isolated, their coping method is to go to lust and to watch things. It's not that we
just love sex that much. I think it's really even just a sadder story because a lot of men don't have

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that 3 a.m. person they can call tonight. What do you think as far as men dealing with that?
I'm kind of with you on that idea that ultimately it's tied to like idolatry. And a lot of times we
maybe oversimplify this idea or over over complicated I guess. But an idol usually has something

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it's promising to relieve you of something that's painful or something that is to you hell.
It's promising to deliver you. And so most men will just have a real bad problem with lust.
Just have a real bad problem with looking at things I shouldn't. But I think there's like you're
saying there's something more to that. And I believe it really is you're not really good at knowing

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what your heart needs and what you're feeling and doing. So you go I don't like this. It's uncomfortable
must find something to distract me. So that could be anything that could be drugs that could be drinking.
You're right. That could be porn that could be gambling. It could be just binge watching Netflix
for all I know. But what it really is is like I think it's Martin Luther he says like the human heart

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is an idol factory. We can turn anything into an idol. Yeah. I think it's confusing really because
we want to look at idolatry as this is a statue and I built it and I bow down to it. But that's
not it. That really isn't usually behind that is it's promising something right. Yeah. You have it's
kind of in the same way not to knock our Catholic brothers and sisters out there. But yeah,

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they have like St Christopher St. So and so and it's like you pray to them for this. You pray to
this guy for that. It's like he promises to be the saint of finding lost things or he find you know
and it's the same thing with this idolatry concept that we really do pursue
something because we think it will alive something in our soul and it just digs the whole deeper.

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Yeah. It's you know I think anything that is a good fix to change the way we feel can be an
addiction. Anything on the list overworking too much exercise over eating pornography

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alcohol all of it and let's take pornography for example since as we're talking about you know
you mentioned a great thing a really great thing a heart really resonated with that when you talked
about you know when when men I we all have done we've all seen pornography most likely

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and you talked about loneliness that can drive us there one of the pieces one of them. Yeah.
It could be a loving speech. But let's take down for example when we go there and then we come back
the crazy thing is as we went there because we were lonely now we're even more lonely. Yeah.
And I guarantee you everybody out there who's seen it and and and it participated then how it feels

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later within seconds if not minutes and last for hours if not days. Yeah. I mean what
in exchange yeah to where we went in to fix loneliness and now it's it's quad 10 at 10 at the
devil's a liar yeah yeah he's such a liar yeah making promises that he what doesn't intend to keep

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you know yeah yeah my I think here I go again my dad used to say let me see if dad I'm sorry if I
butcher it in your book I'll get it right I promise because I'll think about it but he said
sin will keep you longer than you want to stay and can sin will cost you more than you want to pay
and then there's a third one in there but man is that true or what yeah whoosh hey for time

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sake um today and I already invite you back we're gonna love this and uh and I'm gonna let's do
and let's do an octopod let's do it let's do it let's do it eight and here I don't know if I
have them any mics but we might be able to get it I've actually got gear so we're gonna lean in or
something out I'll tell you I want to hear about thank you for everything you've said thank you for

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having me yeah man um I want to go now towards the the creative uh there's many creative sides of
your art and so the creative piece though if you're writing it sounded like in in your introduction I did
not know this you didn't yeah Mike dropped that to me when we met but you've written some songs yeah
one of which is let's just go with the one that's on your hat yeah on time god yeah let's let's

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let's talk about that because we all want god to be all on time in our life yeah work this on come
from why do you write it and what does it mean and how can how can people apply that to their life
yeah well it actually came from extreme disappointment hmm because life wasn't panning out within the

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table time table that I wanted to and I think everyone in every season of life could relate to that
and so to be real with you guys um about four to five years ago I went through a divorce um
people who knew me I was the guy who was on everyone's prayer list let's put it that way

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and a lot of things had come against me that that were unjust and untrue and we're just going through
a really hard time so I was really just disappointed with you know where my relationships status was
disappointed with some career stuff just just enough I'll keep it short but I was very much battling

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some major disappointment okay and I remember one time I was actually working out at the gym
in the morning and I just feel the presence the Holy Spirit any downloads me any says I'm on time
sweet like Lord wins my wife coming yeah you know when you know winner these things gonna happen I'm
just in just in God just like gave me this piece and in he's an on time God like he said I'm on time

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he's on time with it and I just felt like I get that peace and I was like okay um and so like you
you know there's that verse the New Testament my God shall supply all of your needs is according to
his riches and Christ I might be purchasing it but he'll supply all of our needs not all of our
wants within our time table but he will supply all of our needs within his sovereignty and what he

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knows best because he's the father and we're the kid and so he's sovereign so that's where you know
does take the element of trust but God's on time if it's God's will it's God's bill and he's gonna
make it happen if God wants me to meet the right person and get married to start the business the
you know live the adventure to you know to fight the battle yeah if it's his will it's his bill he's

(32:09):
gonna make it happen he's gonna be on time so it's just a reminder and I thought I felt like it'll be
a timely message for people because everyone feels that you know maybe they're they're battling
infertility when am I gonna finally have kids or you know when am I when is my prodigal son or
daughter gonna come back to the Lord you know and like we just we want things happen with our time with

(32:30):
on our timeline so just a good reminder like he's an on time God yeah yeah man that's so good I like
yeah yeah what is the scripture where it says you know the Lord is is not slack as some would
consider like slow but he's slow to anger he's he's desiring that none would perish but all would

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come to salvation like yeah I mean I've been through a season recently where you're just like God
when are you gonna deal with this when are you gonna take care why how is this fair you know
and you you have to turn around and go I'm gonna trust you anyway yeah I know your your timing is
perfect and that is not an easy place to be you know it's similar to that get up and go to the gym

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or get up and put in the reps or get up and and do the work yeah in faith believing that when I
plant that seed there's a harvest that yeah that comes but most men I think are struggling in that
way or not even struggling I feel like we kind of lay down you know we want to be brave saying oh I'd

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fight that guy yeah I could I could take you but when it's actually the the real thing is from
within like I have to fight my flesh I have to fight myself I have to surrender that crucify that
but to death we don't want to do that it's it's never a fun thing to take a hard look at ourselves so
yeah I appreciate what you had to had to share there I love what you said about the the wants and

(34:01):
and needs I want to go yeah with the with the needs you know that that almost 63 year and
less than a month I can tell you that there has been no needs that that God has not met not one
wow praise God there to tell you and you know the scripture says that we will be not found begging

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for bread and I'm lo and behold I've never missed a meal and I've never begged anybody for bread
it's not it's not above me yeah it's okay if I was hungry I'd be begging for bread no problem I got
no problem with that but I have not had to because he has met all of my needs so good then then

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there's wants and I just wanted to comment on that because you've you've mentioned this on time
God and and I just want to give hopeful some encouragement to somebody that when we're when we're
kind of trapped in this this timing we all get there we all have that we all have wants and needs

(35:11):
well hopefully the needs you understand will be met hopefully that settles down into your DNA
yeah and goes deep um I just want to come in on on once your your your wants God also
with my experience has met those as well but here's the little caveat that our our so we

(35:39):
are wants often take a little more time with this on time God and the great thing about it so it will
hopefully encourage you to stick to stick with him not let go of his hand keep your eye on the
prize and that's knowing him not the not the not the things that you're wanting but what he does

(36:02):
he ends up maturing maturing those those wants yeah and and his he makes his wants your wants and your
wants be sometimes become his wants and you're not sure which one came first so what he does is he
matures our wants and and and and and and and I have found that I've pretty much

(36:24):
lived into my wants as well which is I'm not selling anything I'm just telling you the way
it is yeah pretty pretty awesome hey um so Brian I want to just close and I think that you'd be
comfortable doing this for the men that are out there that hear about this on time God would you

(36:50):
encourage them just look right into the camera encourage them and and and and and and lead them
into a moment to just to be with God with what you've been insightful with knowing and writing this
song and in your life yeah yeah my encouragement just to like seek first the kingdom seek first his

(37:14):
kingdom with all of your heart mind and soul live a life of integrity and just be at rest after that
God's got his timing and his sovereignty so just be encouraging that you can do what you can control
which is a live a life of integrity and pursue God and have the right heart and everything and then

(37:37):
that's that's all you're responsible for so just do what you're responsible for and let God work
out the details so that that's my encouragement to you guys amen tell me tell me the course of your
song um I bet you there's a message in there you're an on time God you're never late from yesterday
till forever and amen you're an on time God um I'm spacing in the moment yeah it's fine it's fine

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I was hesitant to like feel you asked me something I've written but yeah I will say the bridge is
you supply every need more than I ask or need as you supply every need more than I ask or think day
and night I will believe you're an on time God that's how it goes beautiful yeah beautiful well thank you

(38:31):
for being here thank you guys um thank you for representing right here in front of you the world
the the the the the God that you serve and love and you're telling the people that they need to
remember that he is an on time God see us and I pray that um that you see that today I pray Jesus

(38:55):
that you would encourage all of the listeners uh to to know you to not relax their hold upon you
you've already promised that you're not going to relax your hold upon them so um just stay
firm stay true stay alert uh stand firm in the faith guys and um act like men the scripture says

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okay and Corinthians then it says but all that you do be done in love so make sure that all of the
the to-do lists in your life of of of things that you're involved with um are all done in love and

(39:39):
that the assurance is is that God will never leave you he'll never forsake you he'll never relax
his hold upon you assuredly not he says will I ever forsake you so praise the Lord thank you
for being here if this episode encouraged you uh then praise God if you'd like to encourage

(40:00):
your friends send it to them um it would probably be a tremendous blessing because I know that uh we've
stepped in some some some very good gardens of encouragement that were rich so God bless you and
still you want to take us out here yeah guys uh well first of all Brian thanks again for being here
where can people go if they want to find out more find your show yeah yeah Instagram and YouTube

(40:26):
or my main channels to type in Brian Summers or created a win podcast on YouTube or Instagram and
you'll be able to find me awesome yeah we'll also be including those links in the show notes so you
guys will be able to find them there as well uh and you can go to standupdo.com/stand uh if something
today ministered to you and you want to go further in your relationship with the Lord uh and you

(40:52):
just want resources we have resources available for you there and then guys tune in next time when
we dive again into uh the issues that interfacing these days and Brian we're looking forward to having
you on again in the future I'll be honored uh beyond of it all right we'll see you next time

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