December 2, 2024 • 50 mins
In this episode of the Stand Up Dude podcast, hosts Tim Bisagno and Stewart White chat with Glenn Miller, who works for Global Training Network, training pastors in Africa. Glenn shares his journey of understanding his identity in Christ before diving into ministry, and discusses how men can fight the spiritual battle that faces all Christians. Glenn then discusses the book "Sit, Walk, Stand" by Watchman Nee, which outlines the teachings of Ephesians. This episode powefully illustrates the importance of resting in our identity (sitting), living out our faith (walking), and standing firm in our purpose so we can go to battle with the spiritual warfare in which we find ourselves. This gospel-centered episode encourages men to embrace their God-given identity and serve from a place of acceptance.
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Global Training Network: You can visit the Global Training Network at https://gtn.org
"Sit, Walk, Stand" by Watchman Nee: https://a.co/d/7s4G267
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Used with full permission from the author, Michael Blakley)
TIMESTAMPS:
Introduction to the Podcast (0:00)
Guest Introduction: Glenn Miller (1:02)
Discussion on "Sit, Walk, Stand" (1:57)
Personal Journey to Tanzania (3:17)
The Importance of Sitting (5:05)
Cycles of Sitting and Serving (7:48)
Creation and Rest (9:06)
Authority in Sitting (15:27)
God's Purpose Unfolding (17:21)
Serving from Acceptance (20:35)
Recent Experience in Tanzania (21:31)
Glenn's Experience in Tanzania (22:03)
Spiritual Warfare Awareness (23:58)
The Armor of God (24:07)
Vulnerability During Transitions (25:04)
Supernatural Worldview (26:14)
The Importance of Relationships (32:25)
Managing Anger (34:12)
Intentionality in Marriage (36:38)
Leadership in Family (39:12)
Encouragement for Young and Older Men (42:33)
Ephesians and Spiritual Armor (44:11)
The Potter's Wheel (44:45)
God's Satisfaction (45:32)
Staying on the Potter's Wheel (46:03)
Unfolding Revelation (47:04)
Daily Guidance (48:06)
Engagement and Growth Paths (48:06)
Call to Action (49:04)
Further Information (49:45)
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-stand-up-dude-podcast--6143975/support.
LINKS:
Global Training Network: You can visit the Global Training Network at https://gtn.org
"Sit, Walk, Stand" by Watchman Nee: https://a.co/d/7s4G267
Stand Up: standupdude.com/standup (https://standupdude.com/standup)
Be More: standupdude.com/be-more (https://standupdude.com/be-more)
Socials:
Facebook: facebook.com/standupdude
Instagram: instagram.com/standupdudeofficial
Email Us: podcast@standupdude.com
Theme Music:
Prodigal - by Arrows in Exile: https://open.spotify.com/track/0Qbpjwsb1Z9XuES9yqKQoz?si=8deed3f6cd2548cf
Used with full permission from the author, Michael Blakley)
TIMESTAMPS:
Introduction to the Podcast (0:00)
Guest Introduction: Glenn Miller (1:02)
Discussion on "Sit, Walk, Stand" (1:57)
Personal Journey to Tanzania (3:17)
The Importance of Sitting (5:05)
Cycles of Sitting and Serving (7:48)
Creation and Rest (9:06)
Authority in Sitting (15:27)
God's Purpose Unfolding (17:21)
Serving from Acceptance (20:35)
Recent Experience in Tanzania (21:31)
Glenn's Experience in Tanzania (22:03)
Spiritual Warfare Awareness (23:58)
The Armor of God (24:07)
Vulnerability During Transitions (25:04)
Supernatural Worldview (26:14)
The Importance of Relationships (32:25)
Managing Anger (34:12)
Intentionality in Marriage (36:38)
Leadership in Family (39:12)
Encouragement for Young and Older Men (42:33)
Ephesians and Spiritual Armor (44:11)
The Potter's Wheel (44:45)
God's Satisfaction (45:32)
Staying on the Potter's Wheel (46:03)
Unfolding Revelation (47:04)
Daily Guidance (48:06)
Engagement and Growth Paths (48:06)
Call to Action (49:04)
Further Information (49:45)
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-stand-up-dude-podcast--6143975/support.
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and boom, the pressure against my chest was gone.
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And whatever I sensed that was in that hotel room,
it was gone.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
Hello, and welcome to the Stand Up Dude podcast.
I am one of your hosts, Stewart White, along with our host,
Tim Bisagno.
Tim Bisagno.
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Hello, it's a little delay.
I know, I kind of think it is as well.
Put a delay in there that time, but you just had to fill it.
Yeah, it's like I can't resist.
So I'm like, is he going to leave me here to have to say his name?
Come on.
Tim, it's good to be here today.
How are you?
I'm doing mighty fine, thank you.
I am doing well as well.
So I've been a good day.
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We're hitting it hard here.
We're getting back to it.
We got our new design.
We got a really good looking real sharp.
We threw out our first one yesterday,
and we acted like we've been here a million times with this new--
Yeah.
--but this is new.
Yeah.
Like number two, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Pretty cool.
Check it out.
Check it out.
You like that sign?
So good.
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Well, today we have a guest with us.
And this one is personal to me, because I have known him
for nearly half of my life, actually.
He is my father-in-law, Glenn Miller.
And I'm not having him on because he's my father-in-law,
actually.
I'm having him on because he is deep in the ministry,
doing the Lord's work in Africa.
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And he has been working for an organization
called Global Training Network, Training Pastors in Africa.
Their heart is to see people locally trained
to be able to disciple people in their own nations.
But today, we have you here as a guest.
Thank you.
Welcome.
And you have a message that you have prepared for us
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and for our listeners and viewers.
So without further ado, I want
to hand it over to you.
Wow.
OK.
One of the things that God has been impressing me with lately
is a little book that I actually read many, many years ago.
But I'm rereading it called "Sit Walk Stand."
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And it's from a guy named Watchman Nee, who
was around quite a few generations.
Wow, quite a few decades ago.
And his book is an outline pretty much
of the book of Ephesians.
So he breaks down the book of Ephesians into three parts--
Ephesians 1 to 3, Ephesians 4 to the beginning of chapter 6,
and then Ephesians 6, which concludes with the armor of God,
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which a lot of people are familiar with the book of Ephesians
with the armor of God.
So I wanted to talk about this because a lot of us
in Christian circles and thinking
that they want to serve God, they want to run ahead,
and they want to do these great things for God.
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And my story is that God took me to Tanzania in 1988
for the first time.
But then it wasn't until 2019 that I actually
went back to Tanzania 31 years later
and started realizing what God was actually doing in my life.
But I really wanted to go, go, go.
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And I was very impatient.
And you were going the first time in 1988.
That's correct.
Thinking I'm going to be a missionary.
I'm going to be a missionary.
He's one to know.
It's missionary.
I want to go down to Bible College afterwards.
We read Stacey and I, my wife, read "My At Most
For His Highest by Oswald Chambers."
Now this is a devotional.
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That's really nice little bits and pieces
of the Christian life.
But he talked about living out your dream,
living out the vision that God's given.
Yeah.
And so I thought that in 1988, when I went to Tanzania
for the first time, that I was on the mountain top.
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I was right there.
And I saw the vision that God wanted me to do.
He wanted me to go back to Tanzania.
Well, it turned out that as soon as I got back to the States
after the five and a half weeks,
is that we went down to Bible College.
And then, after at the end of those three years,
I thought, "Okay, I'm going to go back to my home church
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in Pennsylvania.
I'm going to build support and get out on the field."
But that's not the way it happened.
So that was delayed quite a bit.
It was delayed for 31 years from the first time I went.
So I think the message that I have from this sit-walk
standbook is that I needed to sit with who I was
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in Christ first.
I needed to sit with how he created me.
That's cool.
That was the first thing that I needed.
And I wasn't ready to go in the 1990s.
I wasn't ready.
I had thought you were the right--
I thought I was ready, man.
And I was wrong with that.
Yeah, that's how it sometimes goes.
But what happened was when it didn't come to pass
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as soon as I thought it would, I pretty much went into a depression.
And it was a depression that I was coming to the end
of my dream, my expectation for what was going to happen.
And when that happened, I got depressed.
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And my wife was so--
Stacy was so patient with me during those years.
And I say years.
They really were.
They were tough years.
But then God began to renew me again.
And then I ended up going into the pastorate
for the-- I had three successive pastures.
And after that.
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And that was a good learning experience for me.
So yeah, so I learned that I had to sit
with who I was in Christ first before I even started to walk.
Righto.
Yeah.
Can I-- so you said something to me in the introduction?
And I really, really connected with it.
You were a missionary.
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And then God called you to a pastorate, which
is not a downgrade for anybody other than if it's you.
And that's how God has built you.
And being a pastor was that.
And then when you became a missionary,
you considered that an upgrade again.
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And I had the same exact story.
Exactly.
I did two or three or four pastures.
I've seen your pastures just once.
But those were hard years for me because my heart was missions.
And doing what we're doing here,
reaching unreach people groups.
Yes.
And so thank you for that.
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I've not talked to--
I don't think anyone that's ever said that.
And those three successive pastures were very, very difficult.
I don't want to go into too much detail, but they were tough.
And then I wondered, well, did I
misread God again in the past or it?
I kind of felt like I was a little conflicted at the time
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until God began to open the door to going to train pastures
in any staphrica.
Then I realized, oh, I know what he was doing.
God was showing me something that I needed to learn myself
so that I had something to give to the pastures in the staphrica.
So cool.
Yeah.
What does sitting look like?
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You said you had to sit with and learn.
I don't want to put the words in my mouth of who you are or where.
Yeah.
What does sitting-- what does that look like?
I think there are cycles of sitting
because there are productive times when we're
out there getting really busy for the Lord and doing things
and fulfilling our purpose in life.
And then we get so busy that we realize,
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I'm feeling very depleted right now.
I'm feeling like I'm not up for the task.
I'm feeling inadequate right now.
So what I need to do is I need to press into Christ again.
I need to abide with him.
I need to sit with him.
I need to know who I am as a believer.
My relationship with Christ is from that flows everything that I do.
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And if I don't know who I am in Christ,
then whatever I do is simply a reaction
or maybe it's a compensation for something that is lacking inside me.
So then when I get criticized or whatever,
then I kind of react to it.
And I don't give a good humble response to criticism.
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That's just one example.
But one of the things that I would say is exemplified in God's word
as far as sitting is creation.
You think about creation, you think about the six days of creation.
And then the seventh day was the Sabbath.
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So when was Adam and Eve, when were they created on the sixth day?
Okay.
What was their first full day of life, of their existence?
It was rest.
Interesting.
On the Sabbath.
It was the Sabbath.
And that came directly from Watchman Knees book.
That's a point that he's made.
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They are in the garden.
The fall had not happened because that didn't happen till Genesis 3.
But in Genesis 2, the first day that Adam and Eve had in the garden of Eden was the Sabbath.
It was the day of rest.
I think that that's a picture of sitting.
Oh, wow.
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Cool.
So instead of working, getting out there and running and even walking, the first thing
that we need to do is to sit.
Wow.
They had done nothing to earn that gift of creation.
And God just gives them this life.
Yes.
And they get to sit with it.
I love that.
Yeah.
Me too.
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So it's funny.
It's funny the way.
Well, sit well to you.
Sometimes on flights, I think they give a little antsy.
But yeah.
Yeah.
This is cool.
Thank you for that.
I can't wait to hear more, man.
Yeah.
Well, we would never expect a baby to run before they crawl.
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Yeah.
So there's all kinds of developmental things that God's placed into.
Balance itself.
Balance itself.
Yeah.
And they sit up.
Yeah.
Now, they're developing muscle, core, core.
And now, to keep them from falling over, they're defining balance.
They're learning balance.
They just, that's pretty cool.
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That's some good stuff.
The sitting sounds so passive, but man, you got to sit for you.
Walk.
It's exactly right.
It sounds passive.
It sounds like, what am I supposed to do?
I'm not doing anything.
You know, I'm just sitting.
But that's when God's really building into our lives.
Yeah.
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And we've kind of worked that into our present day.
I mean, right now, you know, people work seven days a week for the most part.
But if you look at when I was growing up, Sunday was really, really important.
They even closed the grocery stores.
They had blue laws back then.
Yeah.
Blue laws certainly know wine or liquor.
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I guess we're dating ourselves a little bit.
They're gone.
Or bought.
Sold on Sunday.
And I often thought at that time that the first day of the week was Sunday.
It was a special day.
It was the first day that we offered to God.
So before we even worked on Monday through Friday or Monday through Saturday, whatever,
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the first day was a day of rest.
It was a...
That's so interesting.
I forgot about that.
I always think of Sunday as the last day, but it's the first day, the first fruit, the starting
it out restful instead of ending it by resting because you're just so darn tired.
Yeah.
Super cool.
Yeah.
And I just wrote it out before we went on this podcast because the point that I was making
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with the sit-walk stand and just the sit-part, first of all, is resting is the first thing.
It's the first fruit of the week, you know, the Sabbath.
Just like it was for creation.
Yeah.
Man, I like that.
What do you do when you do worship?
So I mean, you lead worship on Sundays often.
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Yeah.
It's got to be, you preach on Sundays.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I wouldn't have to go into that better.
When I was doing that too, I would...
Mine was Monday.
Yeah.
But I could tire some, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how do we go from sitting to walking?
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Can we just go straight to walking?
Like it was it necessary that we sit first, what...
Why does he make those distinctions?
Well, if we're not prepared in our core for walking out the Christian life in Ephesians
4 to into chapter 6, well, then we still have to go back.
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We have to return to the walking before we do...
But we want to get out there and we want to run before we even know how to do the fundamentals
of walking.
So sitting is first and then walking and it's so important because we still have to go
back to it if we run ahead.
Then we're out there and then we get exposed.
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And there is a lot of this exposure that's taking place right now.
What is this?
Is this walking?
Is this what you're...
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're not prepared for with the sitting part and we get out there and we start to do our
thing, walking whether it be in leadership, in corporate world or in the church, then
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we end up getting exposed.
Got it.
Then the weaknesses come out.
Then the chinks in our armor are exposed.
And now we have to go back and we have to...
What is God trying to tell me right now?
Why do I feel so inadequate?
Why do I feel so exposed?
Why do I feel so tired, fatigued in the work that I'm doing?
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Because we're not prepared because we haven't sat with Christ.
Yeah.
Boy.
And we're told.
We're told that even when we were dead in our trespasses, this is in Ephesians 2, he made
us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved and raised us up with him
and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ.
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Right in Ephesians 2 verses 5.
He said he did.
That's pretty remarkable when you think there's royalty type language being used.
In the presence of the King, only the King is the one sitting.
Everybody else is standing in reverence and yet he's saying we're sons.
We're seated next to the King.
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We're at his table.
We're at his table.
You know, something else cool back in the day when Jesus was teaching, he would sit down
often and teach.
He'd sit down on the boat.
He'd sit down on a rock.
He'd sit sit down in the tabernacles and that was a big, big flashy statement of, I'm
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a teacher.
You may be defined that better, but nowadays we stand up.
But back then to sit down, everybody watched the guy talking, sitting down because it meant
something.
The elders would sit at the gates, wherever the gates were.
They were sitting there and I'm assuming it was probably in Jerusalem where the different
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gates were there and there were people that were sitting there.
I don't know a ton about this, but that was always a place of authority.
Yeah, authority, there you go.
There's the position of authority to sit down.
And what I think, what we need to understand is that Christ has created us to fulfill a
purpose and he's given us the authority that the Father gave him to do his work.
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As long as we're doing his work, I'm not talking about doing our own thing out there and building
our own kingdom, but I'm talking about building the kingdom of God and he has given us authority
to do that and a purpose in that kingdom to follow.
So that's where I think the seeded is so important.
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And to walk out our Christian life the way it was intended to be walked out, then we can
do that and fulfill our purpose.
I'm fulfilling a purpose now that I can't remember ever realizing.
But it took me, but those 31 years in between 1988 to 2019 to begin to even see a glimpse
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of it.
Cool.
I just hope that if there's young men listening right now that you heard that, he glends 71.
It's okay.
Yeah, what's okay?
He's 71.
And he just said that what he's doing now, he could have had no idea of exactly what that
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would look like yet.
You're, I can tell you're very, very content and very fulfilled.
Very, you love what you're doing now, which is a beautiful thing.
We said this on our last podcast.
My dad was a pastor as well.
And he used to say that that God's will is an unfolding revelation.
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And we so sometimes want God's will, which is great, pursue it.
And pursue it.
And all costs, but man, it looks different sometimes at the beginning than what it will look like
at the end.
And it's beautiful.
He puts the pieces together in the pages of the book that create the story.
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And it's just a beautiful, beautiful, I just love what you said because man, it's good
stuff.
When you stay in the, I was thinking of a record player there.
When the needle is inside the record.
It's inside of a groove.
You stay in God's will and that's when the music is going to happen.
Okay.
And it's beautiful because man, it's a long play and it's a beautiful, beautiful song.
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And there's a rhythm to it.
And there is a rhythm to it.
Yeah.
There sure is.
That's the sit, stand, walk.
Sit, walk, sit, walk, stand.
There's a rhythm to that.
And I think it's easy for a young man if this would be focused more to that age group of
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young men.
And I think the, I think older men are the same way.
Yeah.
We started.
We wanted to reach just young men.
That's my passion.
18 to 38.
It's kind of where we said it.
And then I've shared it with so many of my friends and they're like, they're called weeping
and they're or crying either way, but several, just different ones.
Like, I've, I needed to hear this.
This is what I've always wanted to hear.
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This is, so it's, we've just opened it up.
It's for every, every man desiring to be the man that they're created to be by God.
And to, to try to serve or to try to accomplish something which would be like motivated from,
I've got to prove myself, you know.
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And there's a lot of times that I tried to do that in my younger years.
I tried to prove myself.
I was trying to prove a point, you know.
And I didn't think that I had been given as high a profile as I should have.
I thought, I thought that people were just overlooking me or maybe even fully neglecting
me.
I don't know.
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But then I realized, you know what?
I'm trying to serve for acceptance, not from acceptance.
And when we sit with Christ, then we can walk out serving from acceptance rather than serving
for acceptance, serving him because he loves you, not serving him so he will love you.
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Right.
Because we are in the beloved.
We are in the beloved.
We're accepted in the beloved and isn't security and acceptance.
All of that are high, high needs that we have as humans.
Yeah.
Unlocks so much of the wasted energy we spend trying to earn acceptance, trying to earn
love.
Even it may be the love of your own father, it may be the love of a parent or a spouse or
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anything.
And especially though if you're trying to earn God's love, you're wasting energy on something
that you don't need to earn.
That Christ is earned for you.
And when you are set free from that, you've released all this like energy, if you will,
do things because you're loved.
Like you just said, that is like mind blowing.
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If you sit and you rest with that for a little bit to use the sit term here.
Yes.
And I'm just beginning, I'm just beginning to do battle for the Lord at this stage of
my life.
Now I had an experience over in Tanzania in October of 2023 where I was alone in my
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room in the hotel and it was 1230 in the morning.
Are we about to hear a whole spirit drop?
Come in and bearish it.
It's hangar nades in its hand.
It's pretty crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I had gone, I had done a one full week of training in Tanzania, a place called Bunda,
Bunda Tanzania.
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And then I did a Zoom training on Saturday, then I preached on Sunday morning.
And Monday morning at 1230 in the morning, I woke up with this pressure against my chest.
As if something was pressing down, pressing, pressing on my chest.
And it started like it was a dream where I felt like I'm running out of breath.
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Like this pressure is more than just a dream.
This almost feels like there's a physical component to it.
And it's pressing down on my chest.
All of a sudden, James 4.7 came to mind, submit therefore to God, resist the devil and he
will flee from you.
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So I recited it.
And as I was reciting it, I felt myself coming out of that sleep.
Now, I don't know if I was really dreaming or what.
You know, I don't.
It's just the way I was responding to this.
And as I was coming out of the dream, I heard myself finish the verse.
And I think I was actually saying it.
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I was actually audibly saying it.
And he will flee from you.
And boom, the pressure against my chest was gone.
And whatever I sensed that was in that hotel room, it was gone.
And I thought, what in the world just happened?
So I emailed a friend of mine who was a missionary for over 10 years in Tanzania.
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And he said, that was an attack.
And he said, so, so he said, I would recommend that you go into the footly armor in Ephesians
6, beginning in verse 10 and pray through very, very deliberately and slowly pray through
each of those pieces of armor.
And what jumped out was two things.
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The breastplate of righteousness and the shield of faith.
And what do those two pieces of armor, just those two?
What do they protect?
I know because we talked right before we hit record and it's dying to tell you, okay,
can I?
Yes, yes, yes.
They both protect the heart.
They both protect the chest with the foot.
And how did that come?
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It happened when I was in this passive state.
I was in a sense subconsciously, you know, I'm dreaming, whatever.
I'm in a passive state and then boom, because you know what?
The devil doesn't fight fair.
He'll come in attack when we are asleep at our most vulnerable hungry, angry, lonely,
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or tired, the halt.
Yep.
He loves to sneak in there also during times of transition.
You were probably transitioning from missions to pastor or pastor to missions or you were about
to go home from a mission trip back to the quote real world, et cetera.
Those times of the transition, he loves that stuff, man.
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He is conniving.
And I was about ready to start my second week of training and I remember going into the
classroom and talking with the pastors and mentioning to them the experience that I had
and they just looked at me like, so what?
Like they experience this all the time.
I was going to say, so when I was a missionary also across the different nations, you're
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wide open.
It just happens more there than when you're here.
For me, after being there for 25 years on the road like that, the principalities are different.
There's authorities in different cities and you're going to be affected by those and different
things like that.
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Yes, you are protected.
You are a child of the living God.
But he'll fool with you and it will fool with you and it happens more frequently over there
than here.
I don't know what that's about other than the locations and you are out there serving
and you're a threat.
So he's going to attack you.
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Yeah.
And I've learned more and more about this supernatural worldview.
And I've realized that in our culture, we are very secular.
We're very secular, humanistic culture, worldview that we're operating in and a lot of this spiritual
warfare is concealed.
It's underneath the surface and people don't even know it's there.
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So what happens is that we need to have this biblical worldview in our Western culture,
but it has to incorporate an awareness of the supernatural.
And if we can see the interaction between the physical and the spiritual, we're much more
prepared.
And after that experience in October of last year, I started learning more and more, but
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I started practically applying it to my life and how do I then lead my family?
How do I protect my marriage?
And interestingly enough, I'm starting to see more and more family crises happening
with people.
The evil one is attacking the family.
Are we just going to be unaware of this interaction between the physical and the spiritual?
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Or are we going to be prepared and have a supernatural worldview?
You know, the different pieces of spiritual weapons, spiritual protection, armor that
are mentioned there at the end of fusions.
It's speaking obviously in metaphor.
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We don't walk around with a shield and a helmet and a sword and we don't always wear boots
etc.
That's kind of referring to.
But it's also interesting, and I never thought of this.
It's kind of speaking not just metaphorically some or eloquently, I'm not real sure.
I don't know if I know the difference, if I must be truthful.
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But the cool thing is it's also speaking of supernaturally.
It's speaking supernaturally of, okay, you just mentioned the breastplate of righteousness
and the shield of faith.
Tell me what that looks like.
Oh, wow.
Well, faith is something that is extremely foundational to our relationship with Christ.
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I believe God gives us the faith to believe Him.
Then we believe Him and that's what starts our journey by His grace.
What does faith have to do?
We're talking shield.
We're talking breastplate.
The breastplate of righteousness.
In case people haven't read this.
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What are you talking about here?
Yeah.
Well, obviously it stems from the Roman soldier.
Yes, sir.
Okay, so because that's when the New Testament was written, the people of God were in the midst
of an occupation of the Romans.
And the Roman soldiers would wear the shield, you know, the helmet.
The helmet?
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I mean, it's nice to see the picture of it because it puts you out.
So for me, I'm a visual person.
Me too.
And then the breastplate of righteousness.
Hey, can you put that up there for us right?
Being God one, two, three, now.
You put a picture of that right here.
Yeah.
Look at that thing.
Isn't that crazy?
I love that.
It's my favorite picture.
It is.
It's one of my true faves.
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And you probably have heard that there are defensive postures.
There's a defensive weapon or a defensive shield.
And then there's a defensive breastplate and, you know, the helmet is defensive and all.
The sword people will say is the only offensive weapon.
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And what is the sword?
The sword is the word of God.
So you have defensive pieces, but mostly, you know, you've got the things that are defensive
and then you've got the one piece which is interesting.
The sword's kind of wild to think if you were a soldier and you had everything but the sword
at best, you can just take some blows, but you can't fight back.
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So you're just going to get that's true.
Beat down.
Yeah.
But you have the sword and you can, and the word of God literally to fight the truth.
Just like you said, as you woke up, you're quoting the word of God.
And it's a two-edged sword, which I love.
That means it penetrates more easily.
It's like butter when it goes in and we want to defend ourselves from swords.
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I think it's our natural instinct, but the scripture has a way of getting in because it's
truth.
And I feel that we're born innately with an instinct to know when somebody's, when you're
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being told the truth, like the real truth.
And it just slips in.
It comes right in and it is what it is and it's clear.
And you may not like the truth, but boy, does it do its work?
And that's the helmet.
And you see it.
That's the helmet.
I like the way the author of Hebrews puts it to that sword is it's even sharper than a
sword.
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The word of God is living and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword.
It is able to pierce to the division of joint and marrow, discerning the motives and thoughts
of the heart.
Right.
That is pretty sharp.
Pretty darn sharp.
That's like surgical sharpness.
And so I sense that a lot of our problem is that we're being passive in the Christian life.
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We're being passive with our families.
What is the most important thing to us as men who are married or single people, family?
Family is the most important thing.
Relationships are the most important thing.
But it seems to me like where our hearts are getting colder and colder these days and
we're filled with anxiety and we're becoming more and more passive.
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So I think passivity is one of those inroads for the evil one to work.
I think another, I think another, well I don't know, I know it.
This is true that it says do not be angry in the book of Ephesians chapter 4.
Just do not be angry.
That gives the devil an opportunity.
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Well, actually it says be angry but do not sin.
So we can be angry but if we proceed to the level of sin losing control in our anger,
then we give the devil an opportunity.
And I noticed that in the last year or so, every time I moved into an international travel
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time to go to Tanzania or Kenya or Rwanda, I realized that I was becoming more and more
anxious about life.
And I've had seasons of anxiety in the past, back when I left the pastoral ministry, I had
to take some medication to get me through.
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So did I.
Yeah.
And I come to realize that that is more than norm.
People take medication and there's nothing wrong with I believe taking medication to get
us through a tough time.
So what I noticed was that I had two experiences with Stacy who I love the most of anyone on
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this earth.
That's your wife.
That's my wife Stacy.
This is your mother-in-law.
My mother-in-law.
Yes.
Yes.
Favorite mother-in-law.
Yeah, right.
If you need a reminder, just ask.
I got it.
But there was one time in she is.
Our family members are going to have a discussion about this and they see it.
For sure is a running joke that I always say.
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I love how we don't have to say that I'm your favorite.
Right.
I'm her favorite son.
No, it's just given.
Yeah.
It's obvious.
So she's so dear to me.
She's my best friend.
But I got really, really angry with her on two separate occasions.
And I remembered what happened as a result of that anger.
It was an outburst of anger.
This is what I would say.
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I was angry and I did sin.
I just let it go.
I just gave myself to the anger and both times after that happened, I had this overwhelming
sense of anxiety that happened between her and I.
I became extremely insecure about my relationship with her after I blew it.
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Interesting.
See, it says, be angry and do not sin and do not give the devil an opportunity.
So passivity can bring the devil into our lives when we're passive.
We amuse ourselves.
We get involved in all of these things.
We turn off our minds.
We watch the screen too much.
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Some of us get involved in pornography from time to time because we want to conquer, but
we're doing it in a passive way.
Yeah.
Right.
So we get involved in some form.
Yeah.
And then we get involved in some form.
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And then we get involved in some form.
And then we get involved in some form.
And then we get involved in some form.
And then we get involved in some form.
But use it appropriately.
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I put a candle in here.
It's totally fine on the table.
But if I set it on the curtains, it's off without being able to stop it.
And that can be incredibly dangerous in that picture of anger is really a scary thing.
So I'm convicted by that.
I know that I've been in the same place where I've lost that control.
I gave it over, rather.
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And was like, you know what?
I'm just going to be fully angry.
I'm just going to have an outburst of anger.
And you're never satisfied when you're, when you're done, you always feel like the shame,
the guilt, the hurt that you probably caused to somebody.
And it's very hurtful.
And sometimes you don't come out of it.
And sometimes you just keep circling the drain, thinking the reason I'm angry is everyone
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else's fault.
And what I'm learning, what I'm learning today, and Stacy and I just went out for breakfast
this morning, and very intentionally worked on one particular area of our marriage.
This is part of what I'm saying.
Instead of being passive about relationships, we need to intentionally build on what we already
have.
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Many of us have a good strong foundation.
But sometimes you know, something needs to, there's a little chink here and there that
we need to work on, we need to fill in, you know, these areas and really be intentional
about our marriages, intentional about our parenting, intentional about relationships.
If we're still single, you know, what are we going to do to be intentional about our relationships?
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And if we do that, I don't, I believe that we are putting up a good strong defense for
our relationships.
And if we be careful about the anger part, then we're not giving the devil an opportunity
to enter into our lives.
So it's like a car like you're, if you never take it in to get the oil changed, you can
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guarantee something's going to go bad.
Exactly.
100,000 miles.
Yeah.
But if you're just like doing this somewhat dull, like, oh, we're, I'm just changing the oil
regularly.
I'm doing the maintenance.
It's going to be far better off your marriage, your life, all those things.
Doing the work that seems like, ah, you know, there's time.
I got time.
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It's still working.
The car still starts.
But I think we need to be intentional about that, like you're saying, you know, just intentionally
going out, intentionally working on something, which requires will willingly, being willing
rather to look honestly at something and go, that's a little out of whack right there.
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And I think what happens is a devil wants to distract us through passivity and through anger.
So that we never do pursue what we've been created to do.
We're just all up in all these skirmishes that are taking place in our lives and our lives
become consumed with the fight.
With that.
Yeah.
So that's where we, I think we have to go back to the sit.
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Who are we, you know, what is our purpose in the right?
Yeah.
Just because you learned how to walk doesn't mean you should forget how to, how to sit.
That's right.
So being stand up, dude, you've used the word stand and dying to hear what that looks
like if you're ready.
Yeah.
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The stand.
Yeah.
You said sit, uh, sit, walk, sit, walk.
Sit, walk, sit, walk.
I think part of it is being the leader, you know, in our family.
Okay.
Now, leadership has to do with inequality.
Okay.
From my perspective, our wives have gifts.
We have gifts.
We are one team.
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We work together side by side to move into this.
But we have to, in one sense, be intentional about developing these relationships in our family.
And I think the stand is standing for our family, not letting the Sanctus Rio has a song,
you know, you can help me with this story.
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You know, what I see on the picture on the portrait is my family's smiling and my wife is
always, but she's saying, lead me with strong arms.
Yeah.
Lead me.
I think that's probably the name of the song.
Yeah.
It's Matt, Matt Hammett from Sanctus Rio.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a great song.
And you know him too, right?
Yeah.
I do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a great guy.
Yeah.
So lead me.
Lead our families with intentionality.
So very I propose that it is.
I just, I just pulled up a slide that I saw at church.
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I took a picture of it.
Check this out.
Our generation is so busy trying to prove that women can do everything men can do, that
women are now losing the unique qualities that set us apart the God, given femininity and
unique qualities our creator designed us to embody.
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Last sentence, women weren't created to do everything a man can do, but women were created
to do everything a man can't do.
Isn't that beautiful?
I love that.
And I think there was a gap for many, many years and I think maybe the church is beginning
to recapture it a little bit.
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And I know that's probably another topic for another conversation, but the passivity of
man has now opened the door to some of this.
Absolutely.
Well, that's because we sat down continually.
Yeah.
And we bear this to.
Yeah.
Not in great.
And so the women put on the, what I call the masculine mass because we didn't and
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when I, yeah, when I moved into the, when I became the pastor of the church that I've passed
it for about four years, there was no men leading busy row.
And so the women led because the men weren't.
And that's what we, that's what we have saw so much of.
And we're just encouraging and emboldening the men as you're doing right now to be the
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leaders that they're born to do.
And there's great security, great security that women have when they know they're being,
you know, you've talked a lot about protection, about protection and honoring them at all costs.
And then they get to thrive in their, in their God-given femininity.
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And they don't have to wear the masculine mass because we're too afraid to come on.
Yeah.
I think there's so much that more way we could say, but I want, I want to encourage young men,
even older men, you know, older men are in this unique position of, they're looking for
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an encore.
Some of them are retired.
Some of them are looking for purpose.
They need an encore.
So the, you know, older men need an encore.
They need purpose in their life.
They need to clear out some of the debris that they've built up over the years and they
need to sit with Christ and know who they are and what their purpose is.
But young men just getting started, they need to, they need to, to, to focus on what God
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wants them to do.
And the earlier they can do that, the better off that they'll be.
You know, I mean, I didn't get saved until I was 23.
And, you know, the sober toast 27.
Yeah.
So there are people out there that are 18, you know, and they're looking for purpose.
So they need to be intentional about relationships and they need not to be distracted with anger
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and passivity, but go for it.
Be intentional.
Stand, you know.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you so good.
Very much.
You have, you feel you've, you've expressed yourself fully here on, on, on, on, sits.
There's always more to say, but God.
God of order.
So often, but you've laid them out really well.
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Well, I appreciate that.
Thanks Tim.
You've been great working with you.
Well, thank you.
You as well.
I praise God that you're here.
I'd like to hear more about the spiritual armor here one day in the future, but if you guys
tell them what chapter that's in Ephesians chapter six, we just kind of actually went through
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the whole book of Ephesians in just an outline form.
Yeah.
But I do have one little reading I'd like to read.
Okay.
This has to do with vision and has to do with purpose.
Right.
I've made this book that I mentioned before my utmost for his highest, I think, by Oswald
Chambers.
He says this, God has to take us into the valley and put us through fires and floods to
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batter us into shape until we get to the point where he can trust us with the reality of
the vision.
Ever since God gave us the vision, he has been at work.
He is getting us into the shape of the goal he has for us.
And yet over and over again, we try to escape from the sculptors hand in an effort to batter
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ourselves into the shape of our own goal.
The vision that God gives is not some unattainable castle in the sky, but a vision of what God
wants you to be down here.
Allow the potter to put you on his wheel and whirl you around as he desires.
And as surely as God is God and you are you, you will turn out as an exact likeness of
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the vision, but don't lose heart in the process.
If you have ever had a vision from God, you may try as you will to be satisfied on a lower
level, but God will never allow it.
What the last two sentences, what?
God will not allow us to be satisfied on a lower level.
Wow.
That's that's powerful stuff.
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There was a song actually that it had the line, you've created nothing that gives me more
pleasure than you and you won't give me something that gives me more pleasure than you.
It's like God will not give you something that is more glorious than he is that you will
have satisfaction.
And that's that's so good.
I love that.
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Good.
Well, I just wanted to encourage every man listening to as Glenges said to stay on that
potter's wheel to let the Lord continue to mold you.
The longer you stay there, the more sensitive you are to his touch and is creating you, recreating
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you and his image daily.
And also continue to hand him that chisel of that marble that he kind of spoke of there
and creating that image in you.
And sometimes we want to say, don't cut that, but he knows what to cut because those are
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the pieces that don't look like him.
And so he sees in you this new creation and continue to hand him the chisel because you
can trust him and continue to stay on that potter's wheel and learning his sensitive leading
of his touch.
And as we said near the beginning, God's will is an unfolding revelation and he loves you.
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He trusts you.
Those as we said on our last podcast, we talk a lot about us trusting him, but he trusts
you with the calling that he's put in your life and the passion that he's put in your
heart and that we said on our last podcast, if you just feel like you are just like God,
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where do I point this thing?
You've created me to for more.
And you stay in right there, right stay right there and continue to ask him and he will guide
you, lead you daily.
Like we said on our last podcast yesterday, you put that nose in the scripture that the
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word we spoke of is a sword and it's too edged and it's very sharp and he will continue to
mold you and shape you just by his word, man, we want it so often want to hear from God
and get direction about what does it mean to sit?
What does it mean to walk?
What does it mean to stand?
He'll show you in the word daily, he daily.
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And so we love that you guys have stayed with us here to the end.
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continually hand him that chisel to knock off the pieces that don't look like him.
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♪ pleasures and sweetness, like a moth to a flame so drawn ♪
and boom, the pressure against my chest was gone.
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And whatever I sensed that was in that hotel room,
it was gone.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
Hello, and welcome to the Stand Up Dude podcast.
I am one of your hosts, Stewart White, along with our host,
Tim Bisagno.
Tim Bisagno.
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Hello, it's a little delay.
I know, I kind of think it is as well.
Put a delay in there that time, but you just had to fill it.
Yeah, it's like I can't resist.
So I'm like, is he going to leave me here to have to say his name?
Come on.
Tim, it's good to be here today.
How are you?
I'm doing mighty fine, thank you.
I am doing well as well.
So I've been a good day.
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We're hitting it hard here.
We're getting back to it.
We got our new design.
We got a really good looking real sharp.
We threw out our first one yesterday,
and we acted like we've been here a million times with this new--
Yeah.
--but this is new.
Yeah.
Like number two, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Pretty cool.
Check it out.
Check it out.
You like that sign?
So good.
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Well, today we have a guest with us.
And this one is personal to me, because I have known him
for nearly half of my life, actually.
He is my father-in-law, Glenn Miller.
And I'm not having him on because he's my father-in-law,
actually.
I'm having him on because he is deep in the ministry,
doing the Lord's work in Africa.
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And he has been working for an organization
called Global Training Network, Training Pastors in Africa.
Their heart is to see people locally trained
to be able to disciple people in their own nations.
But today, we have you here as a guest.
Thank you.
Welcome.
And you have a message that you have prepared for us
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and for our listeners and viewers.
So without further ado, I want
to hand it over to you.
Wow.
OK.
One of the things that God has been impressing me with lately
is a little book that I actually read many, many years ago.
But I'm rereading it called "Sit Walk Stand."
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And it's from a guy named Watchman Nee, who
was around quite a few generations.
Wow, quite a few decades ago.
And his book is an outline pretty much
of the book of Ephesians.
So he breaks down the book of Ephesians into three parts--
Ephesians 1 to 3, Ephesians 4 to the beginning of chapter 6,
and then Ephesians 6, which concludes with the armor of God,
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which a lot of people are familiar with the book of Ephesians
with the armor of God.
So I wanted to talk about this because a lot of us
in Christian circles and thinking
that they want to serve God, they want to run ahead,
and they want to do these great things for God.
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And my story is that God took me to Tanzania in 1988
for the first time.
But then it wasn't until 2019 that I actually
went back to Tanzania 31 years later
and started realizing what God was actually doing in my life.
But I really wanted to go, go, go.
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And I was very impatient.
And you were going the first time in 1988.
That's correct.
Thinking I'm going to be a missionary.
I'm going to be a missionary.
He's one to know.
It's missionary.
I want to go down to Bible College afterwards.
We read Stacey and I, my wife, read "My At Most
For His Highest by Oswald Chambers."
Now this is a devotional.
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That's really nice little bits and pieces
of the Christian life.
But he talked about living out your dream,
living out the vision that God's given.
Yeah.
And so I thought that in 1988, when I went to Tanzania
for the first time, that I was on the mountain top.
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I was right there.
And I saw the vision that God wanted me to do.
He wanted me to go back to Tanzania.
Well, it turned out that as soon as I got back to the States
after the five and a half weeks,
is that we went down to Bible College.
And then, after at the end of those three years,
I thought, "Okay, I'm going to go back to my home church
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in Pennsylvania.
I'm going to build support and get out on the field."
But that's not the way it happened.
So that was delayed quite a bit.
It was delayed for 31 years from the first time I went.
So I think the message that I have from this sit-walk
standbook is that I needed to sit with who I was
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in Christ first.
I needed to sit with how he created me.
That's cool.
That was the first thing that I needed.
And I wasn't ready to go in the 1990s.
I wasn't ready.
I had thought you were the right--
I thought I was ready, man.
And I was wrong with that.
Yeah, that's how it sometimes goes.
But what happened was when it didn't come to pass
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as soon as I thought it would, I pretty much went into a depression.
And it was a depression that I was coming to the end
of my dream, my expectation for what was going to happen.
And when that happened, I got depressed.
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And my wife was so--
Stacy was so patient with me during those years.
And I say years.
They really were.
They were tough years.
But then God began to renew me again.
And then I ended up going into the pastorate
for the-- I had three successive pastures.
And after that.
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And that was a good learning experience for me.
So yeah, so I learned that I had to sit
with who I was in Christ first before I even started to walk.
Righto.
Yeah.
Can I-- so you said something to me in the introduction?
And I really, really connected with it.
You were a missionary.
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And then God called you to a pastorate, which
is not a downgrade for anybody other than if it's you.
And that's how God has built you.
And being a pastor was that.
And then when you became a missionary,
you considered that an upgrade again.
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And I had the same exact story.
Exactly.
I did two or three or four pastures.
I've seen your pastures just once.
But those were hard years for me because my heart was missions.
And doing what we're doing here,
reaching unreach people groups.
Yes.
And so thank you for that.
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I've not talked to--
I don't think anyone that's ever said that.
And those three successive pastures were very, very difficult.
I don't want to go into too much detail, but they were tough.
And then I wondered, well, did I
misread God again in the past or it?
I kind of felt like I was a little conflicted at the time
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until God began to open the door to going to train pastures
in any staphrica.
Then I realized, oh, I know what he was doing.
God was showing me something that I needed to learn myself
so that I had something to give to the pastures in the staphrica.
So cool.
Yeah.
What does sitting look like?
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You said you had to sit with and learn.
I don't want to put the words in my mouth of who you are or where.
Yeah.
What does sitting-- what does that look like?
I think there are cycles of sitting
because there are productive times when we're
out there getting really busy for the Lord and doing things
and fulfilling our purpose in life.
And then we get so busy that we realize,
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I'm feeling very depleted right now.
I'm feeling like I'm not up for the task.
I'm feeling inadequate right now.
So what I need to do is I need to press into Christ again.
I need to abide with him.
I need to sit with him.
I need to know who I am as a believer.
My relationship with Christ is from that flows everything that I do.
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And if I don't know who I am in Christ,
then whatever I do is simply a reaction
or maybe it's a compensation for something that is lacking inside me.
So then when I get criticized or whatever,
then I kind of react to it.
And I don't give a good humble response to criticism.
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That's just one example.
But one of the things that I would say is exemplified in God's word
as far as sitting is creation.
You think about creation, you think about the six days of creation.
And then the seventh day was the Sabbath.
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So when was Adam and Eve, when were they created on the sixth day?
Okay.
What was their first full day of life, of their existence?
It was rest.
Interesting.
On the Sabbath.
It was the Sabbath.
And that came directly from Watchman Knees book.
That's a point that he's made.
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They are in the garden.
The fall had not happened because that didn't happen till Genesis 3.
But in Genesis 2, the first day that Adam and Eve had in the garden of Eden was the Sabbath.
It was the day of rest.
I think that that's a picture of sitting.
Oh, wow.
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Cool.
So instead of working, getting out there and running and even walking, the first thing
that we need to do is to sit.
Wow.
They had done nothing to earn that gift of creation.
And God just gives them this life.
Yes.
And they get to sit with it.
I love that.
Yeah.
Me too.
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So it's funny.
It's funny the way.
Well, sit well to you.
Sometimes on flights, I think they give a little antsy.
But yeah.
Yeah.
This is cool.
Thank you for that.
I can't wait to hear more, man.
Yeah.
Well, we would never expect a baby to run before they crawl.
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Yeah.
So there's all kinds of developmental things that God's placed into.
Balance itself.
Balance itself.
Yeah.
And they sit up.
Yeah.
Now, they're developing muscle, core, core.
And now, to keep them from falling over, they're defining balance.
They're learning balance.
They just, that's pretty cool.
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That's some good stuff.
The sitting sounds so passive, but man, you got to sit for you.
Walk.
It's exactly right.
It sounds passive.
It sounds like, what am I supposed to do?
I'm not doing anything.
You know, I'm just sitting.
But that's when God's really building into our lives.
Yeah.
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And we've kind of worked that into our present day.
I mean, right now, you know, people work seven days a week for the most part.
But if you look at when I was growing up, Sunday was really, really important.
They even closed the grocery stores.
They had blue laws back then.
Yeah.
Blue laws certainly know wine or liquor.
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I guess we're dating ourselves a little bit.
They're gone.
Or bought.
Sold on Sunday.
And I often thought at that time that the first day of the week was Sunday.
It was a special day.
It was the first day that we offered to God.
So before we even worked on Monday through Friday or Monday through Saturday, whatever,
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the first day was a day of rest.
It was a...
That's so interesting.
I forgot about that.
I always think of Sunday as the last day, but it's the first day, the first fruit, the starting
it out restful instead of ending it by resting because you're just so darn tired.
Yeah.
Super cool.
Yeah.
And I just wrote it out before we went on this podcast because the point that I was making
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with the sit-walk stand and just the sit-part, first of all, is resting is the first thing.
It's the first fruit of the week, you know, the Sabbath.
Just like it was for creation.
Yeah.
Man, I like that.
What do you do when you do worship?
So I mean, you lead worship on Sundays often.
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Yeah.
It's got to be, you preach on Sundays.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I wouldn't have to go into that better.
When I was doing that too, I would...
Mine was Monday.
Yeah.
But I could tire some, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how do we go from sitting to walking?
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Can we just go straight to walking?
Like it was it necessary that we sit first, what...
Why does he make those distinctions?
Well, if we're not prepared in our core for walking out the Christian life in Ephesians
4 to into chapter 6, well, then we still have to go back.
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We have to return to the walking before we do...
But we want to get out there and we want to run before we even know how to do the fundamentals
of walking.
So sitting is first and then walking and it's so important because we still have to go
back to it if we run ahead.
Then we're out there and then we get exposed.
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And there is a lot of this exposure that's taking place right now.
What is this?
Is this walking?
Is this what you're...
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're not prepared for with the sitting part and we get out there and we start to do our
thing, walking whether it be in leadership, in corporate world or in the church, then
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we end up getting exposed.
Got it.
Then the weaknesses come out.
Then the chinks in our armor are exposed.
And now we have to go back and we have to...
What is God trying to tell me right now?
Why do I feel so inadequate?
Why do I feel so exposed?
Why do I feel so tired, fatigued in the work that I'm doing?
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Because we're not prepared because we haven't sat with Christ.
Yeah.
Boy.
And we're told.
We're told that even when we were dead in our trespasses, this is in Ephesians 2, he made
us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved and raised us up with him
and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ.
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Right in Ephesians 2 verses 5.
He said he did.
That's pretty remarkable when you think there's royalty type language being used.
In the presence of the King, only the King is the one sitting.
Everybody else is standing in reverence and yet he's saying we're sons.
We're seated next to the King.
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We're at his table.
We're at his table.
You know, something else cool back in the day when Jesus was teaching, he would sit down
often and teach.
He'd sit down on the boat.
He'd sit down on a rock.
He'd sit sit down in the tabernacles and that was a big, big flashy statement of, I'm
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a teacher.
You may be defined that better, but nowadays we stand up.
But back then to sit down, everybody watched the guy talking, sitting down because it meant
something.
The elders would sit at the gates, wherever the gates were.
They were sitting there and I'm assuming it was probably in Jerusalem where the different
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gates were there and there were people that were sitting there.
I don't know a ton about this, but that was always a place of authority.
Yeah, authority, there you go.
There's the position of authority to sit down.
And what I think, what we need to understand is that Christ has created us to fulfill a
purpose and he's given us the authority that the Father gave him to do his work.
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As long as we're doing his work, I'm not talking about doing our own thing out there and building
our own kingdom, but I'm talking about building the kingdom of God and he has given us authority
to do that and a purpose in that kingdom to follow.
So that's where I think the seeded is so important.
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And to walk out our Christian life the way it was intended to be walked out, then we can
do that and fulfill our purpose.
I'm fulfilling a purpose now that I can't remember ever realizing.
But it took me, but those 31 years in between 1988 to 2019 to begin to even see a glimpse
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of it.
Cool.
I just hope that if there's young men listening right now that you heard that, he glends 71.
It's okay.
Yeah, what's okay?
He's 71.
And he just said that what he's doing now, he could have had no idea of exactly what that
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would look like yet.
You're, I can tell you're very, very content and very fulfilled.
Very, you love what you're doing now, which is a beautiful thing.
We said this on our last podcast.
My dad was a pastor as well.
And he used to say that that God's will is an unfolding revelation.
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And we so sometimes want God's will, which is great, pursue it.
And pursue it.
And all costs, but man, it looks different sometimes at the beginning than what it will look like
at the end.
And it's beautiful.
He puts the pieces together in the pages of the book that create the story.
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And it's just a beautiful, beautiful, I just love what you said because man, it's good
stuff.
When you stay in the, I was thinking of a record player there.
When the needle is inside the record.
It's inside of a groove.
You stay in God's will and that's when the music is going to happen.
Okay.
And it's beautiful because man, it's a long play and it's a beautiful, beautiful song.
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And there's a rhythm to it.
And there is a rhythm to it.
Yeah.
There sure is.
That's the sit, stand, walk.
Sit, walk, sit, walk, stand.
There's a rhythm to that.
And I think it's easy for a young man if this would be focused more to that age group of
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young men.
And I think the, I think older men are the same way.
Yeah.
We started.
We wanted to reach just young men.
That's my passion.
18 to 38.
It's kind of where we said it.
And then I've shared it with so many of my friends and they're like, they're called weeping
and they're or crying either way, but several, just different ones.
Like, I've, I needed to hear this.
This is what I've always wanted to hear.
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This is, so it's, we've just opened it up.
It's for every, every man desiring to be the man that they're created to be by God.
And to, to try to serve or to try to accomplish something which would be like motivated from,
I've got to prove myself, you know.
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And there's a lot of times that I tried to do that in my younger years.
I tried to prove myself.
I was trying to prove a point, you know.
And I didn't think that I had been given as high a profile as I should have.
I thought, I thought that people were just overlooking me or maybe even fully neglecting
me.
I don't know.
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But then I realized, you know what?
I'm trying to serve for acceptance, not from acceptance.
And when we sit with Christ, then we can walk out serving from acceptance rather than serving
for acceptance, serving him because he loves you, not serving him so he will love you.
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Right.
Because we are in the beloved.
We are in the beloved.
We're accepted in the beloved and isn't security and acceptance.
All of that are high, high needs that we have as humans.
Yeah.
Unlocks so much of the wasted energy we spend trying to earn acceptance, trying to earn
love.
Even it may be the love of your own father, it may be the love of a parent or a spouse or
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anything.
And especially though if you're trying to earn God's love, you're wasting energy on something
that you don't need to earn.
That Christ is earned for you.
And when you are set free from that, you've released all this like energy, if you will,
do things because you're loved.
Like you just said, that is like mind blowing.
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If you sit and you rest with that for a little bit to use the sit term here.
Yes.
And I'm just beginning, I'm just beginning to do battle for the Lord at this stage of
my life.
Now I had an experience over in Tanzania in October of 2023 where I was alone in my
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room in the hotel and it was 1230 in the morning.
Are we about to hear a whole spirit drop?
Come in and bearish it.
It's hangar nades in its hand.
It's pretty crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I had gone, I had done a one full week of training in Tanzania, a place called Bunda,
Bunda Tanzania.
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And then I did a Zoom training on Saturday, then I preached on Sunday morning.
And Monday morning at 1230 in the morning, I woke up with this pressure against my chest.
As if something was pressing down, pressing, pressing on my chest.
And it started like it was a dream where I felt like I'm running out of breath.
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Like this pressure is more than just a dream.
This almost feels like there's a physical component to it.
And it's pressing down on my chest.
All of a sudden, James 4.7 came to mind, submit therefore to God, resist the devil and he
will flee from you.
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So I recited it.
And as I was reciting it, I felt myself coming out of that sleep.
Now, I don't know if I was really dreaming or what.
You know, I don't.
It's just the way I was responding to this.
And as I was coming out of the dream, I heard myself finish the verse.
And I think I was actually saying it.
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I was actually audibly saying it.
And he will flee from you.
And boom, the pressure against my chest was gone.
And whatever I sensed that was in that hotel room, it was gone.
And I thought, what in the world just happened?
So I emailed a friend of mine who was a missionary for over 10 years in Tanzania.
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And he said, that was an attack.
And he said, so, so he said, I would recommend that you go into the footly armor in Ephesians
6, beginning in verse 10 and pray through very, very deliberately and slowly pray through
each of those pieces of armor.
And what jumped out was two things.
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The breastplate of righteousness and the shield of faith.
And what do those two pieces of armor, just those two?
What do they protect?
I know because we talked right before we hit record and it's dying to tell you, okay,
can I?
Yes, yes, yes.
They both protect the heart.
They both protect the chest with the foot.
And how did that come?
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It happened when I was in this passive state.
I was in a sense subconsciously, you know, I'm dreaming, whatever.
I'm in a passive state and then boom, because you know what?
The devil doesn't fight fair.
He'll come in attack when we are asleep at our most vulnerable hungry, angry, lonely,
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or tired, the halt.
Yep.
He loves to sneak in there also during times of transition.
You were probably transitioning from missions to pastor or pastor to missions or you were about
to go home from a mission trip back to the quote real world, et cetera.
Those times of the transition, he loves that stuff, man.
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He is conniving.
And I was about ready to start my second week of training and I remember going into the
classroom and talking with the pastors and mentioning to them the experience that I had
and they just looked at me like, so what?
Like they experience this all the time.
I was going to say, so when I was a missionary also across the different nations, you're
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wide open.
It just happens more there than when you're here.
For me, after being there for 25 years on the road like that, the principalities are different.
There's authorities in different cities and you're going to be affected by those and different
things like that.
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Yes, you are protected.
You are a child of the living God.
But he'll fool with you and it will fool with you and it happens more frequently over there
than here.
I don't know what that's about other than the locations and you are out there serving
and you're a threat.
So he's going to attack you.
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Yeah.
And I've learned more and more about this supernatural worldview.
And I've realized that in our culture, we are very secular.
We're very secular, humanistic culture, worldview that we're operating in and a lot of this spiritual
warfare is concealed.
It's underneath the surface and people don't even know it's there.
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So what happens is that we need to have this biblical worldview in our Western culture,
but it has to incorporate an awareness of the supernatural.
And if we can see the interaction between the physical and the spiritual, we're much more
prepared.
And after that experience in October of last year, I started learning more and more, but
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I started practically applying it to my life and how do I then lead my family?
How do I protect my marriage?
And interestingly enough, I'm starting to see more and more family crises happening
with people.
The evil one is attacking the family.
Are we just going to be unaware of this interaction between the physical and the spiritual?
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Or are we going to be prepared and have a supernatural worldview?
You know, the different pieces of spiritual weapons, spiritual protection, armor that
are mentioned there at the end of fusions.
It's speaking obviously in metaphor.
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We don't walk around with a shield and a helmet and a sword and we don't always wear boots
etc.
That's kind of referring to.
But it's also interesting, and I never thought of this.
It's kind of speaking not just metaphorically some or eloquently, I'm not real sure.
I don't know if I know the difference, if I must be truthful.
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But the cool thing is it's also speaking of supernaturally.
It's speaking supernaturally of, okay, you just mentioned the breastplate of righteousness
and the shield of faith.
Tell me what that looks like.
Oh, wow.
Well, faith is something that is extremely foundational to our relationship with Christ.
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I believe God gives us the faith to believe Him.
Then we believe Him and that's what starts our journey by His grace.
What does faith have to do?
We're talking shield.
We're talking breastplate.
The breastplate of righteousness.
In case people haven't read this.
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What are you talking about here?
Yeah.
Well, obviously it stems from the Roman soldier.
Yes, sir.
Okay, so because that's when the New Testament was written, the people of God were in the midst
of an occupation of the Romans.
And the Roman soldiers would wear the shield, you know, the helmet.
The helmet?
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I mean, it's nice to see the picture of it because it puts you out.
So for me, I'm a visual person.
Me too.
And then the breastplate of righteousness.
Hey, can you put that up there for us right?
Being God one, two, three, now.
You put a picture of that right here.
Yeah.
Look at that thing.
Isn't that crazy?
I love that.
It's my favorite picture.
It is.
It's one of my true faves.
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And you probably have heard that there are defensive postures.
There's a defensive weapon or a defensive shield.
And then there's a defensive breastplate and, you know, the helmet is defensive and all.
The sword people will say is the only offensive weapon.
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And what is the sword?
The sword is the word of God.
So you have defensive pieces, but mostly, you know, you've got the things that are defensive
and then you've got the one piece which is interesting.
The sword's kind of wild to think if you were a soldier and you had everything but the sword
at best, you can just take some blows, but you can't fight back.
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So you're just going to get that's true.
Beat down.
Yeah.
But you have the sword and you can, and the word of God literally to fight the truth.
Just like you said, as you woke up, you're quoting the word of God.
And it's a two-edged sword, which I love.
That means it penetrates more easily.
It's like butter when it goes in and we want to defend ourselves from swords.
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I think it's our natural instinct, but the scripture has a way of getting in because it's
truth.
And I feel that we're born innately with an instinct to know when somebody's, when you're
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being told the truth, like the real truth.
And it just slips in.
It comes right in and it is what it is and it's clear.
And you may not like the truth, but boy, does it do its work?
And that's the helmet.
And you see it.
That's the helmet.
I like the way the author of Hebrews puts it to that sword is it's even sharper than a
sword.
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The word of God is living and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword.
It is able to pierce to the division of joint and marrow, discerning the motives and thoughts
of the heart.
Right.
That is pretty sharp.
Pretty darn sharp.
That's like surgical sharpness.
And so I sense that a lot of our problem is that we're being passive in the Christian life.
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We're being passive with our families.
What is the most important thing to us as men who are married or single people, family?
Family is the most important thing.
Relationships are the most important thing.
But it seems to me like where our hearts are getting colder and colder these days and
we're filled with anxiety and we're becoming more and more passive.
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So I think passivity is one of those inroads for the evil one to work.
I think another, I think another, well I don't know, I know it.
This is true that it says do not be angry in the book of Ephesians chapter 4.
Just do not be angry.
That gives the devil an opportunity.
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Well, actually it says be angry but do not sin.
So we can be angry but if we proceed to the level of sin losing control in our anger,
then we give the devil an opportunity.
And I noticed that in the last year or so, every time I moved into an international travel
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time to go to Tanzania or Kenya or Rwanda, I realized that I was becoming more and more
anxious about life.
And I've had seasons of anxiety in the past, back when I left the pastoral ministry, I had
to take some medication to get me through.
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So did I.
Yeah.
And I come to realize that that is more than norm.
People take medication and there's nothing wrong with I believe taking medication to get
us through a tough time.
So what I noticed was that I had two experiences with Stacy who I love the most of anyone on
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this earth.
That's your wife.
That's my wife Stacy.
This is your mother-in-law.
My mother-in-law.
Yes.
Yes.
Favorite mother-in-law.
Yeah, right.
If you need a reminder, just ask.
I got it.
But there was one time in she is.
Our family members are going to have a discussion about this and they see it.
For sure is a running joke that I always say.
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I love how we don't have to say that I'm your favorite.
Right.
I'm her favorite son.
No, it's just given.
Yeah.
It's obvious.
So she's so dear to me.
She's my best friend.
But I got really, really angry with her on two separate occasions.
And I remembered what happened as a result of that anger.
It was an outburst of anger.
This is what I would say.
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I was angry and I did sin.
I just let it go.
I just gave myself to the anger and both times after that happened, I had this overwhelming
sense of anxiety that happened between her and I.
I became extremely insecure about my relationship with her after I blew it.
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Interesting.
See, it says, be angry and do not sin and do not give the devil an opportunity.
So passivity can bring the devil into our lives when we're passive.
We amuse ourselves.
We get involved in all of these things.
We turn off our minds.
We watch the screen too much.
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Some of us get involved in pornography from time to time because we want to conquer, but
we're doing it in a passive way.
Yeah.
Right.
So we get involved in some form.
Yeah.
And then we get involved in some form.
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And then we get involved in some form.
And then we get involved in some form.
And then we get involved in some form.
And then we get involved in some form.
But use it appropriately.
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I put a candle in here.
It's totally fine on the table.
But if I set it on the curtains, it's off without being able to stop it.
And that can be incredibly dangerous in that picture of anger is really a scary thing.
So I'm convicted by that.
I know that I've been in the same place where I've lost that control.
I gave it over, rather.
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And was like, you know what?
I'm just going to be fully angry.
I'm just going to have an outburst of anger.
And you're never satisfied when you're, when you're done, you always feel like the shame,
the guilt, the hurt that you probably caused to somebody.
And it's very hurtful.
And sometimes you don't come out of it.
And sometimes you just keep circling the drain, thinking the reason I'm angry is everyone
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else's fault.
And what I'm learning, what I'm learning today, and Stacy and I just went out for breakfast
this morning, and very intentionally worked on one particular area of our marriage.
This is part of what I'm saying.
Instead of being passive about relationships, we need to intentionally build on what we already
have.
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Many of us have a good strong foundation.
But sometimes you know, something needs to, there's a little chink here and there that
we need to work on, we need to fill in, you know, these areas and really be intentional
about our marriages, intentional about our parenting, intentional about relationships.
If we're still single, you know, what are we going to do to be intentional about our relationships?
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And if we do that, I don't, I believe that we are putting up a good strong defense for
our relationships.
And if we be careful about the anger part, then we're not giving the devil an opportunity
to enter into our lives.
So it's like a car like you're, if you never take it in to get the oil changed, you can
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guarantee something's going to go bad.
Exactly.
100,000 miles.
Yeah.
But if you're just like doing this somewhat dull, like, oh, we're, I'm just changing the oil
regularly.
I'm doing the maintenance.
It's going to be far better off your marriage, your life, all those things.
Doing the work that seems like, ah, you know, there's time.
I got time.
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It's still working.
The car still starts.
But I think we need to be intentional about that, like you're saying, you know, just intentionally
going out, intentionally working on something, which requires will willingly, being willing
rather to look honestly at something and go, that's a little out of whack right there.
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And I think what happens is a devil wants to distract us through passivity and through anger.
So that we never do pursue what we've been created to do.
We're just all up in all these skirmishes that are taking place in our lives and our lives
become consumed with the fight.
With that.
Yeah.
So that's where we, I think we have to go back to the sit.
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Who are we, you know, what is our purpose in the right?
Yeah.
Just because you learned how to walk doesn't mean you should forget how to, how to sit.
That's right.
So being stand up, dude, you've used the word stand and dying to hear what that looks
like if you're ready.
Yeah.
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The stand.
Yeah.
You said sit, uh, sit, walk, sit, walk.
Sit, walk, sit, walk.
I think part of it is being the leader, you know, in our family.
Okay.
Now, leadership has to do with inequality.
Okay.
From my perspective, our wives have gifts.
We have gifts.
We are one team.
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We work together side by side to move into this.
But we have to, in one sense, be intentional about developing these relationships in our family.
And I think the stand is standing for our family, not letting the Sanctus Rio has a song,
you know, you can help me with this story.
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You know, what I see on the picture on the portrait is my family's smiling and my wife is
always, but she's saying, lead me with strong arms.
Yeah.
Lead me.
I think that's probably the name of the song.
Yeah.
It's Matt, Matt Hammett from Sanctus Rio.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a great song.
And you know him too, right?
Yeah.
I do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a great guy.
Yeah.
So lead me.
Lead our families with intentionality.
So very I propose that it is.
I just, I just pulled up a slide that I saw at church.
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I took a picture of it.
Check this out.
Our generation is so busy trying to prove that women can do everything men can do, that
women are now losing the unique qualities that set us apart the God, given femininity and
unique qualities our creator designed us to embody.
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Last sentence, women weren't created to do everything a man can do, but women were created
to do everything a man can't do.
Isn't that beautiful?
I love that.
And I think there was a gap for many, many years and I think maybe the church is beginning
to recapture it a little bit.
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And I know that's probably another topic for another conversation, but the passivity of
man has now opened the door to some of this.
Absolutely.
Well, that's because we sat down continually.
Yeah.
And we bear this to.
Yeah.
Not in great.
And so the women put on the, what I call the masculine mass because we didn't and
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when I, yeah, when I moved into the, when I became the pastor of the church that I've passed
it for about four years, there was no men leading busy row.
And so the women led because the men weren't.
And that's what we, that's what we have saw so much of.
And we're just encouraging and emboldening the men as you're doing right now to be the
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leaders that they're born to do.
And there's great security, great security that women have when they know they're being,
you know, you've talked a lot about protection, about protection and honoring them at all costs.
And then they get to thrive in their, in their God-given femininity.
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And they don't have to wear the masculine mass because we're too afraid to come on.
Yeah.
I think there's so much that more way we could say, but I want, I want to encourage young men,
even older men, you know, older men are in this unique position of, they're looking for
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an encore.
Some of them are retired.
Some of them are looking for purpose.
They need an encore.
So the, you know, older men need an encore.
They need purpose in their life.
They need to clear out some of the debris that they've built up over the years and they
need to sit with Christ and know who they are and what their purpose is.
But young men just getting started, they need to, they need to, to, to focus on what God
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wants them to do.
And the earlier they can do that, the better off that they'll be.
You know, I mean, I didn't get saved until I was 23.
And, you know, the sober toast 27.
Yeah.
So there are people out there that are 18, you know, and they're looking for purpose.
So they need to be intentional about relationships and they need not to be distracted with anger
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and passivity, but go for it.
Be intentional.
Stand, you know.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you so good.
Very much.
You have, you feel you've, you've expressed yourself fully here on, on, on, on, sits.
There's always more to say, but God.
God of order.
So often, but you've laid them out really well.
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Well, I appreciate that.
Thanks Tim.
You've been great working with you.
Well, thank you.
You as well.
I praise God that you're here.
I'd like to hear more about the spiritual armor here one day in the future, but if you guys
tell them what chapter that's in Ephesians chapter six, we just kind of actually went through
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the whole book of Ephesians in just an outline form.
Yeah.
But I do have one little reading I'd like to read.
Okay.
This has to do with vision and has to do with purpose.
Right.
I've made this book that I mentioned before my utmost for his highest, I think, by Oswald
Chambers.
He says this, God has to take us into the valley and put us through fires and floods to
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batter us into shape until we get to the point where he can trust us with the reality of
the vision.
Ever since God gave us the vision, he has been at work.
He is getting us into the shape of the goal he has for us.
And yet over and over again, we try to escape from the sculptors hand in an effort to batter
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ourselves into the shape of our own goal.
The vision that God gives is not some unattainable castle in the sky, but a vision of what God
wants you to be down here.
Allow the potter to put you on his wheel and whirl you around as he desires.
And as surely as God is God and you are you, you will turn out as an exact likeness of
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the vision, but don't lose heart in the process.
If you have ever had a vision from God, you may try as you will to be satisfied on a lower
level, but God will never allow it.
What the last two sentences, what?
God will not allow us to be satisfied on a lower level.
Wow.
That's that's powerful stuff.
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There was a song actually that it had the line, you've created nothing that gives me more
pleasure than you and you won't give me something that gives me more pleasure than you.
It's like God will not give you something that is more glorious than he is that you will
have satisfaction.
And that's that's so good.
I love that.
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Good.
Well, I just wanted to encourage every man listening to as Glenges said to stay on that
potter's wheel to let the Lord continue to mold you.
The longer you stay there, the more sensitive you are to his touch and is creating you, recreating
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you and his image daily.
And also continue to hand him that chisel of that marble that he kind of spoke of there
and creating that image in you.
And sometimes we want to say, don't cut that, but he knows what to cut because those are
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the pieces that don't look like him.
And so he sees in you this new creation and continue to hand him the chisel because you
can trust him and continue to stay on that potter's wheel and learning his sensitive leading
of his touch.
And as we said near the beginning, God's will is an unfolding revelation and he loves you.
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He trusts you.
Those as we said on our last podcast, we talk a lot about us trusting him, but he trusts
you with the calling that he's put in your life and the passion that he's put in your
heart and that we said on our last podcast, if you just feel like you are just like God,
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where do I point this thing?
You've created me to for more.
And you stay in right there, right stay right there and continue to ask him and he will guide
you, lead you daily.
Like we said on our last podcast yesterday, you put that nose in the scripture that the
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word we spoke of is a sword and it's too edged and it's very sharp and he will continue to
mold you and shape you just by his word, man, we want it so often want to hear from God
and get direction about what does it mean to sit?
What does it mean to walk?
What does it mean to stand?
He'll show you in the word daily, he daily.
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And so we love that you guys have stayed with us here to the end.
You can go to our website.
If you haven't been there, it's standupdood.com.
There are some buttons that you can click around.
You can know more.
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I want more.
You'll see all these buttons and some of them are great growth paths for you to be able
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to stay on that potter's will to still somehow allow you, God will give you the strength to
continually hand him that chisel to knock off the pieces that don't look like him.
So we love you and hope that man, I've never asked this.
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Usually this is Stu's job, but man, we're trying to help as many people as possible to
be young man, to calling them forward.
And if you'd share, if you'd like it, if you'd subscribe, if you do all of those things
here, for those who've been around for five minutes, what I've learned is that helps
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us reach more people just by subscribing.
And if you came on and you saw something that had 10 subscribers versus 10,000, you'd be
like, hmm, okay.
So we're not necessarily looking for that, but it does help.
So we're here for you.
And thank you for being here today.
And if anybody wants any more information about what I do, just go to gtn.org.
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GTN.org.
Global training network.
Dot org.
I love that.
Thank you for saying that.
You bet you appreciate that.
I just have.
Thank you guys for watching and listening.
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www.GTN.org.
Thank you.
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