June 6, 2025 • 39 mins
Join us as we celebrate our 50th episode. We’re finally back after technical difficulties beyond our control. And was Wang beyond his control after his latest run in with the Vinnie Vincent Invasion Gang? Tune in to find out as we also discuss KISS Asylum and travel back in time to discuss all the colorful pop culture of that year.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Samcast Media. It's excuse you're watching the Sinking Wings, Shut
Thinking Wing.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Asylum, the new Kiss album accept no imitations on the Murcury.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Records of tapes.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Kiss Asylum would be Crazy about It.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Available at all tape World and record town locations for
six ninety nine comes.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Out this week, right, It's out this week, and we're
doing a video for the single.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's called Tears of Falling. The album's called Asylum, and
basically what we're trying to tell people stop worrying about
going over the edge and being crazy. Just be crazy
and then you don't have to worry about it anymore.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
People always confuse us with Willie Nelson and will and Jennings,
so we thought we'd take advantage of that.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
These are usually the kind.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Of closing the country Western shows anyway. So you guys
have been together more than a decade now, you're currently
celebrating the success of your twentieth album. What keeps the
band current?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Caring?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I think if you care your current, if you're not,
you're old before you again. You do it because you
care because there are people out there that's doing a
lot of money and they want the best show in
the world and that's our jobre.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Kiss Spectacle is coming Kiss Live in concert, hit songs
from the New Asylum album, all my favorite Kiss songs,
and the Potteries show.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
With rock and Roads.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Kiss Live. I'm introducing Black and Blue Monday, December sixteenth.
That's Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That Kiss Asylum Show.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Would be back every year like a clock or a
bad dream, depending upon which side of the fence you're on.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And for the people, I think of us as a
bad dream. We're coming back. Once we decided what we
wanted to do that it was time to get out
there and start kicking some accident.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Sorry, that's what we did, you know. So we've been
doing it ever since. Sick is deadly here people is
(02:46):
listen Bill?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Why hear people by?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Damn? Oh sad? It's our can't believe it's our fiftieth episode.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I can't believe it. It's it's it's amazing, man, unbelievable
fifty episodes. Who would have thought?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Wow? Man? And what the hell happened to your Celtics?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
What happened to my Celtics? Uh championship? Hangover? Man? But
thank you for asking. I appreciate you bringing that up, Buddy.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I take it. They lost.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, we lost. It was it was fucked up. We
lost to the Knicks and we choked. We h Yeah,
I'm not gonna get into it. Yeah, so onto the
next year.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Wow, man, I'm sorry, bro.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Thank you thinking say anything?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
But hey, man, we're bad, Yes, we're bad. Man, God damn,
what a pain in the ass. This has been holy shit,
fucking a Skyke fucked us up.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Man. Yeah, I knew that, we knew that they were
gonna shut down, but god damn. They throw a curveball
at the end and their their their reception was ship.
Everything was shitty and I had to learn a new
pro a new platform to record on, which was a
bitch to learn, and I couldn't find anybody help me.
(04:12):
But but we persevered, and here we are, Episode fifty.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Hell yeah five a sylum man, we're all we're all
the way in asylum. Can you believe that?
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Ship?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Bro? It's crazy?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Mank God my god, hell yeah, man, so way, man,
why don't you go ahead and start us off with
the stats on asylum?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, fucking I will.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Oh wait wait, wait, no, hang on, what's hang on.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Besides our little our little thing on on finding a
new platform to record on. I heard you had a
little run in with with somebody or something or some
gang out there.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, let me ask you a question. Are you talking
about the Vinnie Vincent Invasion Gang? I am, uh, yeah, well, yes, yes,
I got some mind fucking trippy updates. Before we get
into the stats and everything. Everybody knows that me and
Vinnie Vincent have had an up and down relationship so
(05:28):
on and so forth, and you know, he was really
close to Mark Saint John's sister, God rest her soul.
We lost her and we paid tribute to Hermie and
secret stantly love her dearly. But anyway, as everybody knows,
I mean, I haven't talked about him in quite a while,
but everybody knows in San Francisco there's a vicious gang
called the Dinny Vincent Invasion Gang, and everybody knows it's
(05:52):
it's crazy. And you know, our country, United States of America,
is going through a big crackdown with illegal aliens and everything,
and that's all good. I'm pro that and whatnot. But anyway,
so the vn Vincent Invasion Gang, if you guys recall
from past episodes when I gave the stats and whatnot,
it consists of a large gang of Vietnamese nationals, all Vietnamese,
(06:17):
all born in Vietnam and everything, but they took on
the name of the Vinny. That's an evading gang, and
Vinnie Vincent has given them subliminal support throughout the years.
But now, holy shit, let me ask you a question.
Sink it's sailing. Yeah, are you aware of the massive
(06:37):
prison and Gulo el Salvador called the You're not no, no, yeah,
there's a lighten me. Yeah, there's a massive hardcore prison
that puts all the gang members and everything down and
on Gulo el Salvador, and it's called Sea Cot see Cot.
(07:02):
It's fucking hardcore and everything. Long story short, the United
States government, Ice in particular and the Justice Department basically
came down hard on none other than Vinnie Vincent. Oh yeah,
Vinny Vincent, And well he just kind of likes to
(07:22):
come down hard a little bit, doesn't he. Well that's
another story from another day. But here's the deal. Vinny
Vincent was born, was born in this country of arts,
and I believe he was born where's my note in Bridgeport, Connecticut?
I believe not. I believe it was on August sixth,
(07:42):
of nineteen hundred and fifty two, the Ear of Our Lord,
and he got all involved in this Vinnie Vincent gang
membership and everything. So love story long. Vinny Vincent is
in prison in Al Salvador as we record this.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh you wonder why he disappeared again, we haven't heard from.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
No, we really haven't. So everybody out there, you know,
I know everybody's going, oh my god, you know, taking
out a hit of acid bill where no man on
the real this is real ship. We're not exactly celebrating
the fact that Vinnie Vincent is locked up and it's
weird and Sea Cut. They have, you know, different prison
outfits he's in. There's a a tranny trans transgender ward.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Like a transgestle ward.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, something similar to that. So at least he's not
in with the main populace of the Sea Cott prison.
So anyways, I'm not gonna go. I will give everybody
updates as this goes along, but I just want to say,
everybody out there say a prayer for Vinnie Vince because
he's you know, he's doing hard time.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
So he's not getting shot full of love every day
from all.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Those No, no, no, no, no, he was not he
is not, but yeah, we're gonna go, Betty. We want
to give a shout out. We want to give a
shout out to our boy at Fancast Media, D Rotten.
I call him Rotten D. But we just want to
give him a shout out. We love him. So, yeah,
he's our manager. He puts us on all sorts of things.
(09:18):
He signs the contracts, he he hires the attorneys, and
this whole process singing Stanley didn't tell you, this whole
process of getting onto a new format and everything. Me
and sinking family had to sign contracts, had to do
all this and that had the okay lawyers and everything. Yeah,
it was a clusterfuck. And we're very grateful for our
manager and and our manager's lawyers.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
That got everything.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah. So Matt mad love mad props to our boy
Rotten D. D Rotten. So thank you, Rotten D. You
are no marrier alright, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
fucking its on yeah yeah yeah. So we are talking
about Kiss Asylum released on Oh before I get there.
(10:08):
We got special appearances by David Leaf, David Leaf, Ken Sharp,
Ken Sharp, and C. K. Lint on our They made
contributions to our podcast today and we're going to get
to them momentarily, but yeah. Kiss Asylum released on September sixteenth,
nineteen eighty five, produced by Paul Stanley. I was recorded
(10:31):
at Electric Lady and Right Track Recording Studios. It was
on Mercury Mercury Records. It went to number twenty on
the Billboard two hundred, number one in Finland, number three
in Sweden. It was engineered and mixing by Dave Whitman.
The album has gone on to go gold. Paul Stanley,
(10:55):
Jean Symon, Dey Carr, Bruce Kulick. I saw the tour Tuesday,
February fourth, nineteen eighty six, at the cal Palace in
San Francisco, and sak you family if you could put
if you could put the picture up there for everybody,
I would truly appreciate it. Yeah, And before I get
anything speaking of the Asylum tour and C. K Lentz
(11:17):
come on up. So here's C. K. Lent with his
contribution my book I always read about, So no everybody
wonders about the Asylum tour, the Asilum tour. When I
saw it that night with wasp hoping up. Here's here's
a little passage in this book. The Asylum Tour, which
ran from late nineteen eighty five to the spring of
(11:37):
nineteen eighty six, wasn't much different from the last, averaging
five thousand people per night. It was hid and miss
Sacramento would sell twenty six hundred tickets, but Philadelphia would
sell ten thousand tickets. Ticket prices were stepped up. Arena
shows had been priced as low as twelve fifty and
some were closer to ten dollars. These were bargain prices.
(12:00):
Many promoters tend and change the ticket sales by more
than a dollar. Since the late nineteen seventies, we uh
we stopped leaving ticket prices to the discretion of the
local promoters and set a price of fifteen dollars as
the benchmark. Thank you see k lent. So yeah, so
(12:21):
they go about that and uh ticket down. And let's
go back to that glorious day of September sixteen, nineteen
eighty five. What do you think the number one movie
in the United States of America was on September sixteen,
nineteen eighty five, the year of Our Lord. Ticket taling.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Number one movie. Yep, I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Man back to the future.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Oh wow, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Okay, okay, okay, now I'm getting there.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah yeah, go back, go back in the time machine,
get in the DeLorean, doing a ball okay, yeah, doing
a fall Coka with as freely can get all fucking high,
a fucking yeah, yeah, fucking and maybe even a rocket
up hubble rock. It's all good man. So the number
one the number one TV show in the United States
of America was The Cosby Oh, of course, and the
(13:15):
number one album in our country on that date was
Dire Streets Brothers in Arms.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Oh my God, didn't get sick of that.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Album, right, And the number one song on that date
was by an artist by the name of John Parr,
and the song was called Sato Kate elmos Fire Yeah yeah,
Man in Motion. And last, but not least, we're going
to talk about the four major championship. The NFL champions
(13:45):
of the nineteen eighty five season with the Chicago Bears.
They totally destroyed the New England Patriots. The nineteen eighty
five NBA Finals was the La Lakers. They beat the
Boston Celtics. The Major League Baseball the World Series excuse me,
champion was the Kansas City Royals, and the Stanley Cup
(14:07):
Champions will once again the Toiler.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
The Man awesome. So I'm okay, man, let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Outside of those album cover man, what did you think
of it?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Man? I thought it was kind of cool, but at the.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Same time, you know, it's colorful, but there's a little
bit of you know, drama around this album cover because
apparently they decided to slap on Peter Christen He's really's.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Colors to Eric corn Kill it flips.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
What do you think that?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah? Yeah, I did notice that, and you know, just
to be transparent, as I've said throughout the process of
doing these podcasts, everything, my last episode, my last kiss
out Mike brand New was Kiss Animalized. I did not
buy a kiss aside, and I was trying to think
back and everything I think I got. Yeah, I think
(15:04):
I got this like right around the same time Revenge
came out, because as I've said, I got Revenge the
first one. So yeah, So what do I think of
the album cover? Very Miami Vice, very of the Day,
the pastel colors and whatnot. And I don't know, didn't
Wallarck do that one?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I believe him and Paul collaborated on this.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there was some sort of thing
that Paul Sanley saw the Motels album with the same color. Yeah. Yeah,
and I believe that Motel's album came out in eighty three.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, that was a little bit of a you know,
influence on this. Yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, yeah, so you know, I mean, it is it
looking back at it as a revisionist historian, it's not
so cool. But back in the day, it is what
it is, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, So you didn't get this until what
you said, until Revenge, I.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Would say, yeah, you know, and I I would say
probably ninety one ninety two right around there.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Oh no, this, I mean this. I mean I always
stayed with them, man.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I had just about every album when it came out,
and this album, you know, I got for birthday or
Christmas one year when it came out.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
The year it came out.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, and I remember getting Anyway Slice It CDs single
it was gold.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
That was pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Man, I stuck with him and I got it when
it came out, so yeah, there you have it, and.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I was gonna go to the tour. It was wasted.
The last command man.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I even met a banner for wash because I was
so in the wast those first two albums, and I
loved them and I was gonna go to a concert
and I had a big old WASP banner on a sheet,
you know, and everything, and you know, Bob and Dad like, no,
you're not going yet, You're.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Not, Like.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, you know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I'm with you, brother, you know. I mean I've been
called by you know, the kiss apologists, you know the
ones that, oh, if you don't love everything kiss put out,
you're not a real fan. You know, those kind of people.
And no, but see, I may have not have bought
Asylum on September sixteenth, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but here's
(17:30):
the deal. I still supported him. I went to the tour.
I went, I mean I went to every single to
go yeah, from Asylum, I mean from Increases the Night
on every single tour I went to. So you know,
you know I've been called out, you're not really a
kiss man. Well, I support a kiss NonStop and may
not have supported Asylum. Crazy Nights and hot in the Shape,
(17:54):
but yeah, but anyways, you know, but yeah, so there
you go, man, right on, it's.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
All good man. Well you want to get into the songs.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Then well let's let's go for it. Brother, you started
my man, you started.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Talking about those Grammy Awards leading videos that go on.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
So oh I think number one, number one King of
the Mountains.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh man, what a killer drum opening, cool rocking Paul song,
no stroking his Marxist keg and proclaim that he's.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
The King of the mountain.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Oh man, it's got a great solo from Bruis stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I actually game the opening track, wag what do you
think of King of the Mountain?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
What do I think of?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
What do you think of King of the Mountain? Broa?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You know? Written by Paul Stanley Bruce Q looking dismal child,
you know, basically in nineteen eighty five to piggyback on
what you were talking about, Paul Stowe, You're talking about
being the King of the mountains and I eighty five
I got news for you, Paulicyl that you were far
from the King of the Mountain. You know what I'm saying,
(19:07):
Aunt right right by the badass song. You nailed it
with the opening of the great legendary Harek Carr got
rest of Soul. We love them so yeah, man, it's
a good song, killer Bruce solo. You know what I'm
saying I give it four to five chopsticks, but by.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Hell yeah, Wayne, take number two any way you slice it?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, Gene Simmons and Howard Rice, you know, I mean,
let's be honest. You know, from Asylum through Ham, the
Shade Gene songs pretty much sucked. Yeah, this is okay.
I give it two and the five chopsticks.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
By hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
You know this is a fun Geene song. I always
does this for it for some reason.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
I I liked the song.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And you know, like I said, I had the Gold
CD because I was a kiss tar back then.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I had to collect everything.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I collected all the wine on various vilos from various countries.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I had all the Seaton ship. I had so much shit.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Man.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I finally unloaded that ship though.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But but yeah, man, anyway, slice man, I dig it?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, all right, right, all right?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Number three who wants to Be Lonely?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Week? When John bo Banaar, you know, the black guy
with the mohawk from the Hey your buddy, you took
a picture, got a.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Picture of him? Yeah, hopefully my fucking phone didn't dump
that one too. Yeah, man, I freaking love this song, man.
You know, Chiller Main rip. You know, brilliant guitar solo.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
You know this album, you know, this album's actually a
lot of fun when you go back to listen to it. Man,
you know, yeah it's David for the time, but man,
you know, yeah, so far one to three Man, I
sing them all.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Man, Wait, what do you think of its be lonely?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah? You know, I mean, I'm not gonna deny it.
I like the song. The video is kind of funny.
The video, yeah yeah, the yeah right right. And another
amazing Bruce Cullick solo. And I could say that about
all that ship. Now.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I may not like.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Those Kiss albums that he appeared on, but I love
Bruce Cullic, so I want to make that clear. I
respect him. He's amazing. It's not his fault, but Genu
and Paul were writing shitty songs, but he kept up
his bargain and was playing amazing guitar.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
So yeah, yeah, man, hell yeah, spot arm.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Bro, thank you, thank you, thank you? Think you packed?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Hell yeah? Man, Wait, go ahead and take a track.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
D four Try by Fire, try to buy fire. Speaking
of Bruce Cullic, Bruce Killer, because you get to co
right here. Another Gene song, Another boring song. Another shitty song,
one out of five chopsticks.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Oh man, right there with you? Man, Like I was
just saying, how how good of an album this was
so far, and how fun it was. It's sort of strong,
but the this suck ass song came on. Man, it's
looking terrible. Man, songs sucks so bad. Bruce didn't even
do a good guitar solo. Man, because Bruce couldn't even
save this song, man, oh man. Next number five, I'm
(22:37):
a live, oh man, dude, this this is a cool,
fast song. Man. I mean it's basically like under the
Gun too. You know it's gotta kill it.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Killer Bruce solo Man, Yeah, I kind of think I'm alive.
How about you?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
What Bruce killing? Another co write Paul Stanley and the
incomparable that's been child. Uh, Bruce going off very fast
paced rocker. It's not bad. It's not bad at all.
I give it two and a half chop shit.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Hell yeah, we're halfway there. Man, just put his fitch over.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, let's flip it over.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Brother.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Yeah, God loves the deadly weapon. Weig. What do you
think of that? Track number six?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, Paul Stanley, Uh, Jean Swinson West Beach. Maybe I
fucked that a combination of those people. Bruce going bats
you crazy, air car Pounder is a little hard away again. Man,
I'm gonna give it two and a half chop six
blaa bag it.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Hell yeah, Man loves a gently weapon.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Now for the super Fast Team song, I'll give the
gun three.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Demon chorus sounds off. I'm not really a fan the chorus.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
They just tried to cramp too much, Man, too much
into this song. They tried to get they tried to
get a little technical, but Fruze saves it and ripped
some nice tasty solo.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Man.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So there's that. Man, Yeah, loves a deadly Weston Man.
I could take it or leave it. Okay, On to
number seven. The hit of the album, the fucking video
hit Tears Are Falling.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Oh man, dude, I love this song.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's a classic fall song, the song and single that
carried the app album.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Man, it's just a great classic solo by Bruce.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I mean, oh my god, dude, the chicken the video
with the tear going from her eye all the wa
down to the zipper brit By the end of the video.
Man is a cool man, I dug you, Man, it's
of the times. But man, I'm a sucker for songs
like this. Man, it's a damn good song. Wang, what
are you say the tears are falling?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I think Here's Your Falling is fantastic. Yeah, Paul Stanley,
great song, number fifty one on the Billboard two hundred.
I remember seeing this on MTV all the time, and
let's bring out David Leaf and Ken Sharp from the
official authorized biography. This is what Bruce Jwick said about
(25:26):
Here's a Falling. I remember, yeah, I remember Paul was
really excited about the demo. He played it over the
phone for me and I thought it was going to
be cool. It's a simple song, but very catchy. Paul
played all the rhythms on that, and then I came
in and there was a nice meeting spot for a solo,
almost an entire verse. I like those kind of challenges
(25:49):
where you can develop a melody and just really create
something that will lift the song. That's always my goal,
and right away I started to come up with some
of the solos. The way it started off, I think
it was Paul's suggested to try some of the harmony,
because Paul was always very big on that. I made
sure to stick in some flashy ricks. I was really
(26:12):
pleased with the solo. It was a highlight for me,
both recording it and recording it in the video we
did later for it.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Yeah, man, yeah, the classic solo to this.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah exactly. And the thing about that sync and tailing is,
you know, Jesus Christ. As far as my recollection, it
was on MTV all the fucking time, So I don't
know how the fucking only went to number fifty one
on the billboard. Yeah, yeah, And you know, in case
you were wondering, I'm gonna do something a little bit different.
(26:51):
In nineteen eighty five, there was twenty seven number one
songs on the billboard, two hundred and here they are. Yeah,
here they are to piggyback on Tears Are Falling, only
going to number fifty one, like a virgin Madonna, I
want to know what Love's foreigner, Careless, Whisper, Whams, can't
(27:13):
fight this feeling, Rio Speedwagon One more night, Phil Collins,
We are the world USA for Africa. Crazy for you, Madonna,
don't you for don't you forget about the simple minds?
Everything she does she wants Wham everybody wants to rule
the World. Tears are Fears Heaven Brian Adams, see Sue's Studio,
(27:33):
Phil Cohones of You, two of Kill. I love that song.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
And I Know you knew too.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Single telling by the Great Duram Durham. Every Time You
Go Away, Paul Young Shout, Shout, Let it all out.
Here's are fears, the power of Love, Gey Lewis and
the News.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Saint Elmo's fire Man emotions are far money for nothing,
dire straits, Oh Sheila, Ready for the World, take on me, uhha,
Saving all My love for you, Whitney Houston Park Time
Lover Stevie wonder Mind the Vice theme song by Joan Hammer.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
We Built this City by Star Starbucks Stuff Star Star
Shap start Sharp, my brother, Hey, exactly, there you go,
There you go. Step three. More separate lives, Phil Collins
and Marilyn Martin, Broken Wings, mister mister say you save me? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Yeah, right, soul hell yeah, shut up, yeah, go on,
go on hey, And then you say he safe, kiss Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
I think so? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
And Bob Kelly is that right? We know what?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Tommy Flayer can't play that solo.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I watched.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
At the Heart Rose.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Really, Tommy, really, did you spend even one song. No,
I just finished. The tears are following. Yeah, we're on this.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
See really cool, right, But well wait, let's just talk
about you know that, this the songs you just rattled.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Off, Oh what about it? What do you want to know? Brother?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
My god, dude, where did all that great music go?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Man? You know some of it so much of it
was pop music, but yet it was rock music, yet
it was R and B music. It was all over
the place. They were just great catchy songs.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
They had good choruses, man, they had good guitar, and
they just said had everything.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Man, And now we're stuck in this. Man, this fucking
music that sounds AI generated.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's just fucking you know newter that has no no
fucking feel to it or.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Heart to it. I mean, god damn man, even those
Ram songs you ratt ball.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I love those songs. Man, they got feeling in them.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Still there's still make music like they did in the
eighties and the seventies. Man, I think it was.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Not feeling, brother, It was so diverse and everything. No,
I agree, brother, I agree.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Dude called me old fashion, called me what any fuck
you want? But you know what all these hip horp
pop artists, all this bullshit.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
What do they do?
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Man?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
They go back and then sample all this shit. So
that tells you something, right there, man.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
You know it's just.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, pretty much pretty much.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Come on, man, oh man, dude, just just a great decade,
great year for music. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
All those classic videos, holy shit, man, classic songs that
are still played today.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
And that motherfucker from Aha, he can just go hit
that fucking note, goddamn it. Yeah, yeah, he had the balls, man,
Jesus Christ. All right, man, go on, because that's what
seper think cool way, what you think of secret for cool?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Well, I'll tell you what I think. Then I want
to tell you what Jeene Simmons thought. And the brilliant
Behind the Mask by David Leaf and Ken Sharp, those
crazy kids, David Leaf and Ken Sharp, crazy kids, but
we love them. I've been milking their book for the
whole podcast ist Ar side, so it's amazing. So yeah,
(31:20):
So Gene Simmons says about Secretly Cool, this is a
story of an actual girl that I met. This was
a girl who had pictures of me all over her
wall and one almost life size poster that was sort
of a parallel to her bed, so it was lying
on its side, and there was a certain piece of
(31:41):
sticking out of the picture, a well placed spot. When
the lights went out, you could let your imagination take
over it. So when nobody was looking, she was doing
the nasty. I finally met this girl after seeing pictures
and letters. The letters don't lie, so this song was
written after her. Her name shall he kept secret to
(32:01):
protect the innocent. In fact, she wasn't very innocent. So yeah, man,
secretly cool one and a half chop sticks out of five.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Oh man, I'm taking it. You don't really care for
she be cool?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Not not not.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Really, oh, secretly cool? Man. I love it man, it's
great too.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I mean right, irul, I don't mind it man, because
and you know why I really like it because check
out the double Vernico video to hear how this song
would have sounded classic seventy style. There's a guy he
read in this song and he paints the space up
like all the members of Kiss. He plays all the instruments,
(32:43):
and he made a video of him playing the drums
and using the.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Cow bell in this song.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
He put in piano like Christine sixteen to this song.
Really jazzed it up like like this song could have
been off a rock and roll over man and it
sounds man and that there really helped me like this
song even more so.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yes, I would love to check that out. Remind me,
remind me to check that out.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Brother, I'll put it up on the screen. Man double
bird a game.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Man, all right, right out, gool boo boo, right on.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Then we get on to number nine, Radar Love. Oh
my god, this song is su horrendously horriful this week.
Oh my god, way what do you think of radar.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Shit? Sing it down and take one of your heart medications.
I don't want me to have a pucket by bye him?
All right? Now, here's the deal, right, what's that?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
It's so weak? Man?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I feel you, my brother, I feel it right out
for love.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Paul Stanley and Desmond Child led Zeppelin, it's not. I
give it one out of five chopsticks. But let's hear
what Paul Stanley has to say about it. I'm I'm
and you'll note I wrote let Zeppelin it's not. And
here's what Paul Stanley says. I'm proud of my roots
and sometimes I let them show a little more. I'm
not uncomfortable doing a song that clearly relates to another
(34:12):
song as long as it's not play jiarasm pleader is some.
The song is a tip to the hat led Zeppelin.
Pay Paul Stanley, I say the song is not so
good and one out of five chops Stanley Bank.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Hell yeah, man, all right man, the.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Last track on the album Oh My Goodness All Night?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
What what do you think of All Night?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Man?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
I'll let you take this book first.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, isn't that your boy yan Bouve?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, there's your boy on bo there, yan Bouve. If
you're watching our podcast, we got none of love and respect.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
For you home, love and respect for you. But what
do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Man, can the dude? I give it. I give this song.
It's cheese, but it's fun and harmless cheese. I'm gonna
give this ship two and a half chop sticks out
of five bye.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I give this song nothing, man, John, you write this song, man,
This song sucks so bad. I can't stand it, man,
I can never listen to it. The song sucks. The
video sucks, man. The video is so fuck gay with
Paul in that fucking get up and that oh fuck
that ship, dude, a man, it's.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Total trash man. What a way to end the albums
fucking ruined it for me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this song
blows man. Oh kight, fuck man, No, no, nope, doesn't
do it for me.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
No Jose for singing's downing. Hey, let me hold on
a minute, hold on a minute. Let me just say
something to the audience. You ready, yeah, how big birthday
sinking Stanley today? Today? People out there watching today is
(36:08):
literally sinking Stanley's birthday. So from Saratism, California to Florida,
Happy birthday, Mark co host, Oh thank you man, that's
all right now, brother, I very well, very well. I
know your last birthday. We had all sorts of people
that emailed me Vini Vinnie. Vincent's in prison right now
(36:29):
and who knows where Paul, who knows where Paul Stanley's up, but.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Yeah, birthday's on his knees somewhere. Give me oh man,
so way man, that that's up facadic man.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Wow man, yeah, number fifty, Happy birthday to us, number fifty.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Oh yeah, number fifty.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Man.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Can you believe it?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
I can't. From that October ninth of twenty twenty three
and now it's like, and now that we're back, we're
not gonna disappear for as long as we are. We're
gonna be a little bit more focused. And my pick,
my pick is the next one. And it's not gonna
be an album review. Okay, we're gonna mix it up.
We're kind of bored to do an album reviews. We're
(37:17):
gonna do subjects. So but anyways, it's gonna be fun.
It's gonna be fabulous. So it's gonna be great.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Heam cool, all right, I'm gonna just to see what
you got.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You're gonna like, matter of fact, sink it's selling. And
let me just say, you're gonna love what I come
up with. And I have not spoken to Sinking Telly
about this, but I know he's gonna like this more
than more than I know. And I may have brought
up this subject like sub like in one of our episodes,
(37:49):
but this is gonna be an official one, so stay tuned.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Hell yeah, all right, man, right on, all right? Then
you got anything else where?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
No, man, And I just want to say thank you
to everybody. Thank you to all the people that watch
us on Rumble, all the people that watch us on Spotify,
all the people that listen to us in all the
formats and everything because of our fancast leader Rotten d
D Rotten. He puts us on everybody and he works
his ass off on all that ship and uh he
(38:20):
has his own podcast and everything. So check that ship out.
So we are very proud to be part out of
fancast media bitches.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Dang hell yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Thank you to the Sick Army Family and one of
the second family YouTube Channelman, we're it all began and
that's good. That's our mother ship. But god damn D
Rotten fucking spread us out. Man, Holy shit, man, we
can't thank him more enough.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Spreading.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
He is our he is our partner and uh we
and we are gonna have him on very ship.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah yeah yeah on two episodes, two episodes. He's gonna
be on two episodes.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Yes he is, Yes, yes, he got him coming up.
Yeah hell yeah man, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes,
sir hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Man. Alright, wait, well I got nothing else, So I'm
gonna say that wraps up another episode of The Thinking Away,
so we'll see you next time.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Bam, Think Army Production.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Bawn
Samcast Media. It's excuse you're watching the Sinking Wings, Shut
Thinking Wing.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Asylum, the new Kiss album accept no imitations on the Murcury.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Records of tapes.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Kiss Asylum would be Crazy about It.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Available at all tape World and record town locations for
six ninety nine comes.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Out this week, right, It's out this week, and we're
doing a video for the single.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's called Tears of Falling. The album's called Asylum, and
basically what we're trying to tell people stop worrying about
going over the edge and being crazy. Just be crazy
and then you don't have to worry about it anymore.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
People always confuse us with Willie Nelson and will and Jennings,
so we thought we'd take advantage of that.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
These are usually the kind.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Of closing the country Western shows anyway. So you guys
have been together more than a decade now, you're currently
celebrating the success of your twentieth album. What keeps the
band current?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Caring?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I think if you care your current, if you're not,
you're old before you again. You do it because you
care because there are people out there that's doing a
lot of money and they want the best show in
the world and that's our jobre.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Kiss Spectacle is coming Kiss Live in concert, hit songs
from the New Asylum album, all my favorite Kiss songs,
and the Potteries show.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
With rock and Roads.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Kiss Live. I'm introducing Black and Blue Monday, December sixteenth.
That's Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That Kiss Asylum Show.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Would be back every year like a clock or a
bad dream, depending upon which side of the fence you're on.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And for the people, I think of us as a
bad dream. We're coming back. Once we decided what we
wanted to do that it was time to get out
there and start kicking some accident.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Sorry, that's what we did, you know. So we've been
doing it ever since. Sick is deadly here people is
(02:46):
listen Bill?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Why hear people by?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Damn? Oh sad? It's our can't believe it's our fiftieth episode.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I can't believe it. It's it's it's amazing, man, unbelievable
fifty episodes. Who would have thought?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Wow? Man? And what the hell happened to your Celtics?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
What happened to my Celtics? Uh championship? Hangover? Man? But
thank you for asking. I appreciate you bringing that up, Buddy.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I take it. They lost.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, we lost. It was it was fucked up. We
lost to the Knicks and we choked. We h Yeah,
I'm not gonna get into it. Yeah, so onto the
next year.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Wow, man, I'm sorry, bro.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Thank you thinking say anything?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
But hey, man, we're bad, Yes, we're bad. Man, God damn,
what a pain in the ass. This has been holy shit,
fucking a Skyke fucked us up.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Man. Yeah, I knew that, we knew that they were
gonna shut down, but god damn. They throw a curveball
at the end and their their their reception was ship.
Everything was shitty and I had to learn a new
pro a new platform to record on, which was a
bitch to learn, and I couldn't find anybody help me.
(04:12):
But but we persevered, and here we are, Episode fifty.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Hell yeah five a sylum man, we're all we're all
the way in asylum. Can you believe that?
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Ship?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Bro? It's crazy?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Mank God my god, hell yeah, man, so way, man,
why don't you go ahead and start us off with
the stats on asylum?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, fucking I will.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Oh wait wait, wait, no, hang on, what's hang on.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Besides our little our little thing on on finding a
new platform to record on. I heard you had a
little run in with with somebody or something or some
gang out there.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, let me ask you a question. Are you talking
about the Vinnie Vincent Invasion Gang? I am, uh, yeah, well, yes, yes,
I got some mind fucking trippy updates. Before we get
into the stats and everything. Everybody knows that me and
Vinnie Vincent have had an up and down relationship so
(05:28):
on and so forth, and you know, he was really
close to Mark Saint John's sister, God rest her soul.
We lost her and we paid tribute to Hermie and
secret stantly love her dearly. But anyway, as everybody knows,
I mean, I haven't talked about him in quite a while,
but everybody knows in San Francisco there's a vicious gang
called the Dinny Vincent Invasion Gang, and everybody knows it's
(05:52):
it's crazy. And you know, our country, United States of America,
is going through a big crackdown with illegal aliens and everything,
and that's all good. I'm pro that and whatnot. But anyway,
so the vn Vincent Invasion Gang, if you guys recall
from past episodes when I gave the stats and whatnot,
it consists of a large gang of Vietnamese nationals, all Vietnamese,
(06:17):
all born in Vietnam and everything, but they took on
the name of the Vinny. That's an evading gang, and
Vinnie Vincent has given them subliminal support throughout the years.
But now, holy shit, let me ask you a question.
Sink it's sailing. Yeah, are you aware of the massive
(06:37):
prison and Gulo el Salvador called the You're not no, no, yeah,
there's a lighten me. Yeah, there's a massive hardcore prison
that puts all the gang members and everything down and
on Gulo el Salvador, and it's called Sea Cot see Cot.
(07:02):
It's fucking hardcore and everything. Long story short, the United
States government, Ice in particular and the Justice Department basically
came down hard on none other than Vinnie Vincent. Oh yeah,
Vinny Vincent, And well he just kind of likes to
(07:22):
come down hard a little bit, doesn't he. Well that's
another story from another day. But here's the deal. Vinny
Vincent was born, was born in this country of arts,
and I believe he was born where's my note in Bridgeport, Connecticut?
I believe not. I believe it was on August sixth,
(07:42):
of nineteen hundred and fifty two, the Ear of Our Lord,
and he got all involved in this Vinnie Vincent gang
membership and everything. So love story long. Vinny Vincent is
in prison in Al Salvador as we record this.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh you wonder why he disappeared again, we haven't heard from.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
No, we really haven't. So everybody out there, you know,
I know everybody's going, oh my god, you know, taking
out a hit of acid bill where no man on
the real this is real ship. We're not exactly celebrating
the fact that Vinnie Vincent is locked up and it's
weird and Sea Cut. They have, you know, different prison
outfits he's in. There's a a tranny trans transgender ward.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Like a transgestle ward.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, something similar to that. So at least he's not
in with the main populace of the Sea Cott prison.
So anyways, I'm not gonna go. I will give everybody
updates as this goes along, but I just want to say,
everybody out there say a prayer for Vinnie Vince because
he's you know, he's doing hard time.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
So he's not getting shot full of love every day
from all.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Those No, no, no, no, no, he was not he
is not, but yeah, we're gonna go, Betty. We want
to give a shout out. We want to give a
shout out to our boy at Fancast Media, D Rotten.
I call him Rotten D. But we just want to
give him a shout out. We love him. So, yeah,
he's our manager. He puts us on all sorts of things.
(09:18):
He signs the contracts, he he hires the attorneys, and
this whole process singing Stanley didn't tell you, this whole
process of getting onto a new format and everything. Me
and sinking family had to sign contracts, had to do
all this and that had the okay lawyers and everything. Yeah,
it was a clusterfuck. And we're very grateful for our
manager and and our manager's lawyers.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
That got everything.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah. So Matt mad love mad props to our boy
Rotten D. D Rotten. So thank you, Rotten D. You
are no marrier alright, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
fucking its on yeah yeah yeah. So we are talking
about Kiss Asylum released on Oh before I get there.
(10:08):
We got special appearances by David Leaf, David Leaf, Ken Sharp,
Ken Sharp, and C. K. Lint on our They made
contributions to our podcast today and we're going to get
to them momentarily, but yeah. Kiss Asylum released on September sixteenth,
nineteen eighty five, produced by Paul Stanley. I was recorded
(10:31):
at Electric Lady and Right Track Recording Studios. It was
on Mercury Mercury Records. It went to number twenty on
the Billboard two hundred, number one in Finland, number three
in Sweden. It was engineered and mixing by Dave Whitman.
The album has gone on to go gold. Paul Stanley,
(10:55):
Jean Symon, Dey Carr, Bruce Kulick. I saw the tour Tuesday,
February fourth, nineteen eighty six, at the cal Palace in
San Francisco, and sak you family if you could put
if you could put the picture up there for everybody,
I would truly appreciate it. Yeah, And before I get
anything speaking of the Asylum tour and C. K Lentz
(11:17):
come on up. So here's C. K. Lent with his
contribution my book I always read about, So no everybody
wonders about the Asylum tour, the Asilum tour. When I
saw it that night with wasp hoping up. Here's here's
a little passage in this book. The Asylum Tour, which
ran from late nineteen eighty five to the spring of
(11:37):
nineteen eighty six, wasn't much different from the last, averaging
five thousand people per night. It was hid and miss
Sacramento would sell twenty six hundred tickets, but Philadelphia would
sell ten thousand tickets. Ticket prices were stepped up. Arena
shows had been priced as low as twelve fifty and
some were closer to ten dollars. These were bargain prices.
(12:00):
Many promoters tend and change the ticket sales by more
than a dollar. Since the late nineteen seventies, we uh
we stopped leaving ticket prices to the discretion of the
local promoters and set a price of fifteen dollars as
the benchmark. Thank you see k lent. So yeah, so
(12:21):
they go about that and uh ticket down. And let's
go back to that glorious day of September sixteen, nineteen
eighty five. What do you think the number one movie
in the United States of America was on September sixteen,
nineteen eighty five, the year of Our Lord. Ticket taling.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Number one movie. Yep, I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Man back to the future.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Oh wow, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Okay, okay, okay, now I'm getting there.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah yeah, go back, go back in the time machine,
get in the DeLorean, doing a ball okay, yeah, doing
a fall Coka with as freely can get all fucking high,
a fucking yeah, yeah, fucking and maybe even a rocket
up hubble rock. It's all good man. So the number
one the number one TV show in the United States
of America was The Cosby Oh, of course, and the
(13:15):
number one album in our country on that date was
Dire Streets Brothers in Arms.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Oh my God, didn't get sick of that.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Album, right, And the number one song on that date
was by an artist by the name of John Parr,
and the song was called Sato Kate elmos Fire Yeah yeah,
Man in Motion. And last, but not least, we're going
to talk about the four major championship. The NFL champions
(13:45):
of the nineteen eighty five season with the Chicago Bears.
They totally destroyed the New England Patriots. The nineteen eighty
five NBA Finals was the La Lakers. They beat the
Boston Celtics. The Major League Baseball the World Series excuse me,
champion was the Kansas City Royals, and the Stanley Cup
(14:07):
Champions will once again the Toiler.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
The Man awesome. So I'm okay, man, let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Outside of those album cover man, what did you think
of it?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Man? I thought it was kind of cool, but at the.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Same time, you know, it's colorful, but there's a little
bit of you know, drama around this album cover because
apparently they decided to slap on Peter Christen He's really's.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Colors to Eric corn Kill it flips.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
What do you think that?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah? Yeah, I did notice that, and you know, just
to be transparent, as I've said throughout the process of
doing these podcasts, everything, my last episode, my last kiss
out Mike brand New was Kiss Animalized. I did not
buy a kiss aside, and I was trying to think
back and everything I think I got. Yeah, I think
(15:04):
I got this like right around the same time Revenge
came out, because as I've said, I got Revenge the
first one. So yeah, So what do I think of
the album cover? Very Miami Vice, very of the Day,
the pastel colors and whatnot. And I don't know, didn't
Wallarck do that one?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I believe him and Paul collaborated on this.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there was some sort of thing
that Paul Sanley saw the Motels album with the same color. Yeah. Yeah,
and I believe that Motel's album came out in eighty three.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, that was a little bit of a you know,
influence on this. Yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, yeah, so you know, I mean, it is it
looking back at it as a revisionist historian, it's not
so cool. But back in the day, it is what
it is, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, So you didn't get this until what
you said, until Revenge, I.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Would say, yeah, you know, and I I would say
probably ninety one ninety two right around there.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Oh no, this, I mean this. I mean I always
stayed with them, man.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I had just about every album when it came out,
and this album, you know, I got for birthday or
Christmas one year when it came out.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
The year it came out.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, and I remember getting Anyway Slice It CDs single
it was gold.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
That was pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Man, I stuck with him and I got it when
it came out, so yeah, there you have it, and.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I was gonna go to the tour. It was wasted.
The last command man.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I even met a banner for wash because I was
so in the wast those first two albums, and I
loved them and I was gonna go to a concert
and I had a big old WASP banner on a sheet,
you know, and everything, and you know, Bob and Dad like, no,
you're not going yet, You're.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Not, Like.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, you know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I'm with you, brother, you know. I mean I've been
called by you know, the kiss apologists, you know the
ones that, oh, if you don't love everything kiss put out,
you're not a real fan. You know, those kind of people.
And no, but see, I may have not have bought
Asylum on September sixteenth, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but here's
(17:30):
the deal. I still supported him. I went to the tour.
I went, I mean I went to every single to
go yeah, from Asylum, I mean from Increases the Night
on every single tour I went to. So you know,
you know I've been called out, you're not really a
kiss man. Well, I support a kiss NonStop and may
not have supported Asylum. Crazy Nights and hot in the Shape,
(17:54):
but yeah, but anyways, you know, but yeah, so there
you go, man, right on, it's.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
All good man. Well you want to get into the songs.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Then well let's let's go for it. Brother, you started
my man, you started.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Talking about those Grammy Awards leading videos that go on.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
So oh I think number one, number one King of
the Mountains.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh man, what a killer drum opening, cool rocking Paul song,
no stroking his Marxist keg and proclaim that he's.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
The King of the mountain.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Oh man, it's got a great solo from Bruis stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I actually game the opening track, wag what do you
think of King of the Mountain?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
What do I think of?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
What do you think of King of the Mountain? Broa?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You know? Written by Paul Stanley Bruce Q looking dismal child,
you know, basically in nineteen eighty five to piggyback on
what you were talking about, Paul Stowe, You're talking about
being the King of the mountains and I eighty five
I got news for you, Paulicyl that you were far
from the King of the Mountain. You know what I'm saying,
(19:07):
Aunt right right by the badass song. You nailed it
with the opening of the great legendary Harek Carr got
rest of Soul. We love them so yeah, man, it's
a good song, killer Bruce solo. You know what I'm
saying I give it four to five chopsticks, but by.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Hell yeah, Wayne, take number two any way you slice it?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, Gene Simmons and Howard Rice, you know, I mean,
let's be honest. You know, from Asylum through Ham, the
Shade Gene songs pretty much sucked. Yeah, this is okay.
I give it two and the five chopsticks.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
By hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
You know this is a fun Geene song. I always
does this for it for some reason.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
I I liked the song.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And you know, like I said, I had the Gold
CD because I was a kiss tar back then.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I had to collect everything.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I collected all the wine on various vilos from various countries.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I had all the Seaton ship. I had so much shit.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Man.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I finally unloaded that ship though.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But but yeah, man, anyway, slice man, I dig it?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, all right, right, all right?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Number three who wants to Be Lonely?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Week? When John bo Banaar, you know, the black guy
with the mohawk from the Hey your buddy, you took
a picture, got a.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Picture of him? Yeah, hopefully my fucking phone didn't dump
that one too. Yeah, man, I freaking love this song, man.
You know, Chiller Main rip. You know, brilliant guitar solo.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
You know this album, you know, this album's actually a
lot of fun when you go back to listen to it. Man,
you know, yeah it's David for the time, but man,
you know, yeah, so far one to three Man, I
sing them all.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Man, Wait, what do you think of its be lonely?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah? You know, I mean, I'm not gonna deny it.
I like the song. The video is kind of funny.
The video, yeah yeah, the yeah right right. And another
amazing Bruce Cullick solo. And I could say that about
all that ship. Now.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I may not like.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Those Kiss albums that he appeared on, but I love
Bruce Cullic, so I want to make that clear. I
respect him. He's amazing. It's not his fault, but Genu
and Paul were writing shitty songs, but he kept up
his bargain and was playing amazing guitar.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
So yeah, yeah, man, hell yeah, spot arm.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Bro, thank you, thank you, thank you? Think you packed?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Hell yeah? Man, Wait, go ahead and take a track.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
D four Try by Fire, try to buy fire. Speaking
of Bruce Cullic, Bruce Killer, because you get to co
right here. Another Gene song, Another boring song. Another shitty song,
one out of five chopsticks.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Oh man, right there with you? Man, Like I was
just saying, how how good of an album this was
so far, and how fun it was. It's sort of strong,
but the this suck ass song came on. Man, it's
looking terrible. Man, songs sucks so bad. Bruce didn't even
do a good guitar solo. Man, because Bruce couldn't even
save this song, man, oh man. Next number five, I'm
(22:37):
a live, oh man, dude, this this is a cool,
fast song. Man. I mean it's basically like under the
Gun too. You know it's gotta kill it.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Killer Bruce solo Man, Yeah, I kind of think I'm alive.
How about you?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
What Bruce killing? Another co write Paul Stanley and the
incomparable that's been child. Uh, Bruce going off very fast
paced rocker. It's not bad. It's not bad at all.
I give it two and a half chop shit.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Hell yeah, we're halfway there. Man, just put his fitch over.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, let's flip it over.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Brother.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Yeah, God loves the deadly weapon. Weig. What do you
think of that? Track number six?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, Paul Stanley, Uh, Jean Swinson West Beach. Maybe I
fucked that a combination of those people. Bruce going bats
you crazy, air car Pounder is a little hard away again. Man,
I'm gonna give it two and a half chop six
blaa bag it.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Hell yeah, Man loves a gently weapon.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Now for the super Fast Team song, I'll give the
gun three.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Demon chorus sounds off. I'm not really a fan the chorus.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
They just tried to cramp too much, Man, too much
into this song. They tried to get they tried to
get a little technical, but Fruze saves it and ripped
some nice tasty solo.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Man.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So there's that. Man, Yeah, loves a deadly Weston Man.
I could take it or leave it. Okay, On to
number seven. The hit of the album, the fucking video
hit Tears Are Falling.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Oh man, dude, I love this song.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's a classic fall song, the song and single that
carried the app album.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Man, it's just a great classic solo by Bruce.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I mean, oh my god, dude, the chicken the video
with the tear going from her eye all the wa
down to the zipper brit By the end of the video.
Man is a cool man, I dug you, Man, it's
of the times. But man, I'm a sucker for songs
like this. Man, it's a damn good song. Wang, what
are you say the tears are falling?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I think Here's Your Falling is fantastic. Yeah, Paul Stanley,
great song, number fifty one on the Billboard two hundred.
I remember seeing this on MTV all the time, and
let's bring out David Leaf and Ken Sharp from the
official authorized biography. This is what Bruce Jwick said about
(25:26):
Here's a Falling. I remember, yeah, I remember Paul was
really excited about the demo. He played it over the
phone for me and I thought it was going to
be cool. It's a simple song, but very catchy. Paul
played all the rhythms on that, and then I came
in and there was a nice meeting spot for a solo,
almost an entire verse. I like those kind of challenges
(25:49):
where you can develop a melody and just really create
something that will lift the song. That's always my goal,
and right away I started to come up with some
of the solos. The way it started off, I think
it was Paul's suggested to try some of the harmony,
because Paul was always very big on that. I made
sure to stick in some flashy ricks. I was really
(26:12):
pleased with the solo. It was a highlight for me,
both recording it and recording it in the video we
did later for it.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Yeah, man, yeah, the classic solo to this.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah exactly. And the thing about that sync and tailing is,
you know, Jesus Christ. As far as my recollection, it
was on MTV all the fucking time, So I don't
know how the fucking only went to number fifty one
on the billboard. Yeah, yeah, And you know, in case
you were wondering, I'm gonna do something a little bit different.
(26:51):
In nineteen eighty five, there was twenty seven number one
songs on the billboard, two hundred and here they are. Yeah,
here they are to piggyback on Tears Are Falling, only
going to number fifty one, like a virgin Madonna, I
want to know what Love's foreigner, Careless, Whisper, Whams, can't
(27:13):
fight this feeling, Rio Speedwagon One more night, Phil Collins,
We are the world USA for Africa. Crazy for you, Madonna,
don't you for don't you forget about the simple minds?
Everything she does she wants Wham everybody wants to rule
the World. Tears are Fears Heaven Brian Adams, see Sue's Studio,
(27:33):
Phil Cohones of You, two of Kill. I love that song.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
And I Know you knew too.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Single telling by the Great Duram Durham. Every Time You
Go Away, Paul Young Shout, Shout, Let it all out.
Here's are fears, the power of Love, Gey Lewis and
the News.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Saint Elmo's fire Man emotions are far money for nothing,
dire straits, Oh Sheila, Ready for the World, take on me, uhha,
Saving all My love for you, Whitney Houston Park Time
Lover Stevie wonder Mind the Vice theme song by Joan Hammer.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
We Built this City by Star Starbucks Stuff Star Star
Shap start Sharp, my brother, Hey, exactly, there you go,
There you go. Step three. More separate lives, Phil Collins
and Marilyn Martin, Broken Wings, mister mister say you save me? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Yeah, right, soul hell yeah, shut up, yeah, go on,
go on hey, And then you say he safe, kiss Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
I think so? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
And Bob Kelly is that right? We know what?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Tommy Flayer can't play that solo.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I watched.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
At the Heart Rose.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Really, Tommy, really, did you spend even one song. No,
I just finished. The tears are following. Yeah, we're on this.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
See really cool, right, But well wait, let's just talk
about you know that, this the songs you just rattled.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Off, Oh what about it? What do you want to know? Brother?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
My god, dude, where did all that great music go?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Man? You know some of it so much of it
was pop music, but yet it was rock music, yet
it was R and B music. It was all over
the place. They were just great catchy songs.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
They had good choruses, man, they had good guitar, and
they just said had everything.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Man, And now we're stuck in this. Man, this fucking
music that sounds AI generated.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's just fucking you know newter that has no no
fucking feel to it or.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Heart to it. I mean, god damn man, even those
Ram songs you ratt ball.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I love those songs. Man, they got feeling in them.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Still there's still make music like they did in the
eighties and the seventies. Man, I think it was.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Not feeling, brother, It was so diverse and everything. No,
I agree, brother, I agree.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Dude called me old fashion, called me what any fuck
you want? But you know what all these hip horp
pop artists, all this bullshit.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
What do they do?
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Man?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
They go back and then sample all this shit. So
that tells you something, right there, man.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
You know it's just.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, pretty much pretty much.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Come on, man, oh man, dude, just just a great decade,
great year for music. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
All those classic videos, holy shit, man, classic songs that
are still played today.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
And that motherfucker from Aha, he can just go hit
that fucking note, goddamn it. Yeah, yeah, he had the balls, man,
Jesus Christ. All right, man, go on, because that's what
seper think cool way, what you think of secret for cool?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Well, I'll tell you what I think. Then I want
to tell you what Jeene Simmons thought. And the brilliant
Behind the Mask by David Leaf and Ken Sharp, those
crazy kids, David Leaf and Ken Sharp, crazy kids, but
we love them. I've been milking their book for the
whole podcast ist Ar side, so it's amazing. So yeah,
(31:20):
So Gene Simmons says about Secretly Cool, this is a
story of an actual girl that I met. This was
a girl who had pictures of me all over her
wall and one almost life size poster that was sort
of a parallel to her bed, so it was lying
on its side, and there was a certain piece of
(31:41):
sticking out of the picture, a well placed spot. When
the lights went out, you could let your imagination take
over it. So when nobody was looking, she was doing
the nasty. I finally met this girl after seeing pictures
and letters. The letters don't lie, so this song was
written after her. Her name shall he kept secret to
(32:01):
protect the innocent. In fact, she wasn't very innocent. So yeah, man,
secretly cool one and a half chop sticks out of five.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Oh man, I'm taking it. You don't really care for
she be cool?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Not not not.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Really, oh, secretly cool? Man. I love it man, it's
great too.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I mean right, irul, I don't mind it man, because
and you know why I really like it because check
out the double Vernico video to hear how this song
would have sounded classic seventy style. There's a guy he
read in this song and he paints the space up
like all the members of Kiss. He plays all the instruments,
(32:43):
and he made a video of him playing the drums
and using the.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Cow bell in this song.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
He put in piano like Christine sixteen to this song.
Really jazzed it up like like this song could have
been off a rock and roll over man and it
sounds man and that there really helped me like this
song even more so.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yes, I would love to check that out. Remind me,
remind me to check that out.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Brother, I'll put it up on the screen. Man double
bird a game.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Man, all right, right out, gool boo boo, right on.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Then we get on to number nine, Radar Love. Oh
my god, this song is su horrendously horriful this week.
Oh my god, way what do you think of radar.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Shit? Sing it down and take one of your heart medications.
I don't want me to have a pucket by bye him?
All right? Now, here's the deal, right, what's that?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
It's so weak? Man?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I feel you, my brother, I feel it right out
for love.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Paul Stanley and Desmond Child led Zeppelin, it's not. I
give it one out of five chopsticks. But let's hear
what Paul Stanley has to say about it. I'm I'm
and you'll note I wrote let Zeppelin it's not. And
here's what Paul Stanley says. I'm proud of my roots
and sometimes I let them show a little more. I'm
not uncomfortable doing a song that clearly relates to another
(34:12):
song as long as it's not play jiarasm pleader is some.
The song is a tip to the hat led Zeppelin.
Pay Paul Stanley, I say the song is not so
good and one out of five chops Stanley Bank.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Hell yeah, man, all right man, the.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Last track on the album Oh My Goodness All Night?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
What what do you think of All Night?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Man?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
I'll let you take this book first.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, isn't that your boy yan Bouve?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, there's your boy on bo there, yan Bouve. If
you're watching our podcast, we got none of love and respect.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
For you home, love and respect for you. But what
do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Man, can the dude? I give it. I give this song.
It's cheese, but it's fun and harmless cheese. I'm gonna
give this ship two and a half chop sticks out
of five bye.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I give this song nothing, man, John, you write this song, man,
This song sucks so bad. I can't stand it, man,
I can never listen to it. The song sucks. The
video sucks, man. The video is so fuck gay with
Paul in that fucking get up and that oh fuck
that ship, dude, a man, it's.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Total trash man. What a way to end the albums
fucking ruined it for me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this song
blows man. Oh kight, fuck man, No, no, nope, doesn't
do it for me.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
No Jose for singing's downing. Hey, let me hold on
a minute, hold on a minute. Let me just say
something to the audience. You ready, yeah, how big birthday
sinking Stanley today? Today? People out there watching today is
(36:08):
literally sinking Stanley's birthday. So from Saratism, California to Florida,
Happy birthday, Mark co host, Oh thank you man, that's
all right now, brother, I very well, very well. I
know your last birthday. We had all sorts of people
that emailed me Vini Vinnie. Vincent's in prison right now
(36:29):
and who knows where Paul, who knows where Paul Stanley's up, but.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Yeah, birthday's on his knees somewhere. Give me oh man,
so way man, that that's up facadic man.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Wow man, yeah, number fifty, Happy birthday to us, number fifty.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Oh yeah, number fifty.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Man.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Can you believe it?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
I can't. From that October ninth of twenty twenty three
and now it's like, and now that we're back, we're
not gonna disappear for as long as we are. We're
gonna be a little bit more focused. And my pick,
my pick is the next one. And it's not gonna
be an album review. Okay, we're gonna mix it up.
We're kind of bored to do an album reviews. We're
(37:17):
gonna do subjects. So but anyways, it's gonna be fun.
It's gonna be fabulous. So it's gonna be great.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Heam cool, all right, I'm gonna just to see what
you got.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You're gonna like, matter of fact, sink it's selling. And
let me just say, you're gonna love what I come
up with. And I have not spoken to Sinking Telly
about this, but I know he's gonna like this more
than more than I know. And I may have brought
up this subject like sub like in one of our episodes,
(37:49):
but this is gonna be an official one, so stay tuned.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Hell yeah, all right, man, right on, all right? Then
you got anything else where?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
No, man, And I just want to say thank you
to everybody. Thank you to all the people that watch
us on Rumble, all the people that watch us on Spotify,
all the people that listen to us in all the
formats and everything because of our fancast leader Rotten d
D Rotten. He puts us on everybody and he works
his ass off on all that ship and uh he
(38:20):
has his own podcast and everything. So check that ship out.
So we are very proud to be part out of
fancast media bitches.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Dang hell yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Thank you to the Sick Army Family and one of
the second family YouTube Channelman, we're it all began and
that's good. That's our mother ship. But god damn D
Rotten fucking spread us out. Man, Holy shit, man, we
can't thank him more enough.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Spreading.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
He is our he is our partner and uh we
and we are gonna have him on very ship.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah yeah yeah on two episodes, two episodes. He's gonna
be on two episodes.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Yes he is, Yes, yes, he got him coming up.
Yeah hell yeah man, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes,
sir hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Man. Alright, wait, well I got nothing else, So I'm
gonna say that wraps up another episode of The Thinking Away,
so we'll see you next time.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Bam, Think Army Production.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Bawn
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