July 8, 2025 • 56 mins
Join us as we countdown our Top 10 Hair Metal Albums with Mike Tramp of White Lion. Plus we talk KISS, Metallica, AC/DC, Iron Maiden and much more. You don’t wanna miss this episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Samcast Media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey there, it's my Tramp from Wide Line and you
both watching and listening to the Sinking Wang Show.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Sinking Stanley Here, people aren't listen Bill Wang here people
ba ba bam.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Oh Man, we got it lost and so today, man,
we got it.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We got a legendary vocalist of White Lie with us
with a prolific solo.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Career, mister Mike Tramp.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Oh Man, Mike, how you do it?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Buddy?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Thanks for having me, guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Oh Man, thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Man. Listen, Man, since I saw you last night, you've
been all over the world.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Man, I mean, we've gotta spread the love.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
We gotta spread the rock and roll and it's you know,
I kind of one day.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Asked myself what is it that you're doing, and I said,
you know, well, you're playing rock and roll and you've
now been doing it for forty nine years.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, but it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You were like down in Australia. Did you go somewhere
like in.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Phillip somewhere phillippeans the Philippines.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, we gotta we gotta test it out. And
now we're back in the US and it's pretty soon
going to Europe for a couple of festivals and being.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Back in the US.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
You know, it's it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You gotta go where the grass is green.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Hey, you know you gotta spread the love. Hell yeah, yeah,
it's awesome, man.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
But listen, what's you tell everybody what we're going to
talk about? Wang came up with this awesome idea, and
then I said, Hey, why don't we get a guy
that freaking lived it, that was right in this.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
So Wang, tell everybody what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, what we're going to do, and that we came.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
I came up with this idea for just me and
Sicke it's down, and then he brought in the guy
that sold double platinum with two top eight.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Hits on the Billboard one hundred and for the record.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I saw this gentleman on June eighteenth of nineteen eighty
eight at the Shoreline Amphitheater and Mountain View, California, opening
up for the ac DC Who Made Who.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Tour, And then I saw him on.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Which is fitting because today is Ozzie Osborne's lap for Hormans.
I saw him open up for Ozzy or his band
excuse me, open up for Ozzy Osborne Osbourne on the
No Rest for the Wicked tour on Friday, August fourth,
nineteen eighty nine at the same place, the Shoreline Amphitheater
in Mountain View, California.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Wow, man, you know, and you're right on.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I was there and I saw it.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I saw you.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I saw you back at the Daytone Ocean Center. I
think it was ninety one with Tangier and Cinderella.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That would have been eighty nine, eighty nine. Oh when's
that ros Wow? Wow, yeah, yeah, I'm bad at the years.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Man, Yeah, he is, he is here.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I actually thought you were gonna say, well, yeah, and
I saw him down at the local Walmart.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
And oh no, no, no, I saw you a game tour.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
You guys have tearing it up and that it was
an awesome show. I was right up on the front,
right in front.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
What we're gonna do is we're gonna have the double
platinum artists help us out, and we're gonna talk our
personal top ten hair metal bands, hair metal albums, excuse me,
hair metal albums. And I know of connotations negative and everything,
but I.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Think if you're really honest within yourself and everything.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Hair band not so, I mean, I have issues, so
I'm not gonna really go there. But hair band this
sounds a lot shittier than hair metal.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
At least there's metal in yourself.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
We're gonna talk about our three top ten hair metal albums.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, way, like Actually, I actually would like to know
what is a hair metal band?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Then?
Speaker 6 (04:47):
A hair metal band is something that you know, I'm
old enough.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm only a few years younger than you.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
My Uh, basically that's true. And if you'll notice with
my list, it's a lot of the early to mid
so by that juncture, that term didn't even exist. That
term came after the scene. So but I think, you know,
I used to call it back when I was in
(05:14):
the shout out to Double and right out and out
of the Cellar and everything.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I called it la metal and then it branched out.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
But you know, the grunge people and whatnot termed it
hair metal, so you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
So it was it was like it was like kiss
trying to be fun Jovi. Yeah, he got right.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, Well why don't we get into this, man,
that's gonna be fun as well.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Man, let's get into this.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Dang, why don't you start, Then we'll go to Mike,
and then we'll go to be able to keep it
going like that.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Right on, man, this is very simple except the back end.
I wasn't sure, but I got at number ten. Uh
the self hi Number ten released on January fourth of
nineteen eighty eight, the self titled debut album by La
Guns and just for a caveat, my favorite song on
(06:11):
the record is no Mercy.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Bare cool cool, Mike, what you got from number ten?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well, I'm gonna let you guys go with the dates
and all that little line of notes and stuff like that.
It was hard enough just from you to it to
write down the top ten.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
You know, band lists.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
We're interested in the same way. You can consider it like.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
You know, like like I'm actually listening to it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But but so my list is definitely not in any
particular order and things like that.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
But I'll go with the rat out of the seller.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Hell, yeah, that's an awesome thick man rounded round.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
That's a great album.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I mean they got I mean, what did they have
five six strong songs on that album?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah? That's a monster.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah it was man.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
My number was the debut from skid Row, Now you
know that that's where it gets ippy.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
You know, was skid Row was Guns and Roses hair metal?
I don't know. I don't know if they were they
were well.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
You know I listened today they are because they're.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
On my list and stuff like that, and I'm not
you know, like going in here and figuring out.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
You know, they all had long hair. Yeah, it's styling
the hair. It's hair metal.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yep, Spandex and the what were they called?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Man, what did you call the boots? Man? Everybody had
the rock star boots on.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Man, It's just it was the uniform.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
It was it really was Wang number nine.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
You know, I do want to say something that's very important.
I did not include any of the seventies bands that.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Cling dong to the hair hair metal thing.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I could put Kissing there, Oggioshoorn Ultimate Sin, David Lee, Roth,
Eat Him's Mouth, Skyspray for I know, I just thought
I wanted to give the first generation, the people, the
younger people that were ten years younger than those seventies
artists and everything. So just just for context, I wanted
because I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's fair, that's you know, that's just me, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
So anyways, so number nine released on September twenty fourth,
nineteen eighty six. Rat Dancing Undercover My favorite song on
the record, slip of the Lift.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Hell yeah, all right, Rat, I get a lot of
love right off the bat, Mike, Yeah, for number nine.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, like I said, it's not a particular order, but anyway,
I go with Leeda Fort's album Leader.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Wow, cool? Cool? What drummer played on that? Was there
a singer on that? We'll see. I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I'm the only thing about the Bobby rock and stuff
like that. Oh my good.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Don't make me sound like I really know of what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
I just know there were I mean, besides, of course
it kissed Me deadly.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
There are a couple of really badass songs on that one.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah cool cool.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
If you Mike, wasn't if you Close your Eyes with
Aufi on that?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It was number ten actually last song on the album.
I just had to look at that right on, right on.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, it's very cool.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well, my number nine, I got to get some love
to those guys from Texas Man Dangerous Toys Man that
debut and just so you guys know, Mike Crik here is.
I had to like every single song on the album.
I had to like, I had to like, I had
to know the album inside out. And I love the
Dangerous Toys debut with Queen of the Nile Scared you know,
(09:55):
teams and please and support the Woody all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Man, I love the whole album awesome. Yeah, Dangerous Toys.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Well, I'm in the middle.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'm in the middle of doing a deck and I'm
also doing launder, So I really couldn't go through every
single song and confirm that I like every single song.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, all right, way what you got for number eight? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
And uh, just there for transparency on you what you
just said? Sick of telling I'm not saying I like
every single song on these albums, no way, I'm.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Just saying I am. That was fun.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
No, no, right, that's all good man.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
But okay, So my number eight was released on November
twenty second, nineteen and eighty five, the year of our
Lord Ducking under Lock and Key.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And my favorite form of the record is unchained the.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Night fair, nice nuck it.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
If I'm gonna go with fast a pussy kid, wake
me when it's over right.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
That is a great one, man.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And of course, of course, of course you know, the
House of Pain is is a is a phenomenal song,
and of course it's going to lift the album up
to a different heid for me.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Oh I got to ask you, man, since you brought
that up House, take even one of your favorite songs
on that that kind of mirrors a little bit of
one of your songs from Big Game.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, man, up, yeah, exactly, you know, I mean, there's
just kind of those things that when you were done,
you know, writing nine songs about t NA, you say it,
you know, let me just do you know, a serious song.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
But you know, I never want to be the one
to put the extra sext.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
No, no you did. Hell yeah, that's a great line.
Awesome man. All right man, My number eight is Cinderella
Night Songs.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You love it, man, I mean I love I love
Longbow Winzard just as much. But I gotta give gotta
give the Knights on the Scene absolutely great album.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And that's about this plaming.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You can get that cover and they never seemed to
They didn't carry it on. They just did it on
that cover and then boom gone.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
They Yeah, they just looked like a rock and old band,
you know.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And when I saw him with you guys, man, it
was just that was an incredible show man. I mean, yeah,
Jeff and Keith Jeff.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And then doing the dueling guitars on the less pause. Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Wow, it was incredible man. Yeah, all right, number seven.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yes, sir, We're up to number seven. And there's a
theme on here, so there's a lot of this. I
have a lot of the same fans everything, but that's
just my ship, you know what I'm saying. I was
very young in the early part of the eighties and everything,
and then I got into different music everything.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Anyways.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Number seven released on September seventeenth, nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Duckin Tooth and Nail.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
My favorite song on the record is the intro without
Warning and then Tooth and Nail.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I love that shit.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Fan hell yeah, two for Duckkin, Yes sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Awesome, awesome, Well let's let's keep it too for something
and I'm gonna go with Cinderella long Cole Wind or
the favorite song long you know, the last mile.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Awesome, man, awesome, great, great album. That is a great.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Album that obviously that was the album that we toured
with Cinderella on It.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Was a great tour, man, a great tour. Love it,
great memories man.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
For me number seven, dude, I gotta give it. I
gotta give it to.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Uh who knows what he is.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Right now, But I guess mister Vinny Vincent aw Systems go.
I love that album man, All systems go with Mark
Slaughter on voices.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
They just they just piled it on that album.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
They really restrained Vinnie's guitar playing it and Uh put
out some put out a great album.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Man even knows even on Nightmarre on ELM Street Man.
So props to Vinnie. Man. He shot himself on the
foot Man. He just couldn't seem to keep it together
when he had it all going for himself. God, And
I don't know what's wrong with that guy.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Well yeah, I mean he definitely shot himself somewhere, but
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
It's he did then, and everybody says it then. Everything
one person I know have a good word about it guy.
And it's sad.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It's sad because it's such a talent man, such a
talent is such great songs man. That time of year
was incredible. But anyway, enough about Vinnie Wag number six.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah, number six, but real fast, I know we only
got a certain amount of time with the double platinum
Martive real fast, and I want to ask the author
to kiss.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Questions, but we understand we were a certain amount of time.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
But real fast, you know a sentence or two. Did you
have any personal recollection or experience when Ginny.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Pinson, Well he wasn't then Kiss when we toured with Kiss,
but I do remember one one, you know, observation that
my manager owned this rock club in Brooklyn, coll l
the Moores Rock Cavalo of Brooklyn, and underneath the stage
(15:35):
was Wide Lions rehearsal room, basically meaning.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
That I was at that place, you know, seven days
a week. And I remember one day that.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Vinnie's Vinny Benson was was was playing Lamar that night,
and he arrived at the same time as the cleaning
crew came from the night before cleaning up the vignette,
and you know, I which would be in there earlier on.
So I think he arrived already about like eleven twelve
noon and wasn't going up on stage before twelve of midnight,
(16:09):
and he was already dressed up.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
I found just a little awkward, but then again.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Wow, so thank you brother for answering that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
So he he wore that persona everywhere he went.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
There you talking full makeup and everything. Wow, you know,
incredible all right, So.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, thank you for answering my question.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Double platinum artist Number six for Me was released on
June ninth of nineteen eighty six, and it is the
Cinderella debut album Night Songs, And I saw that tour.
They open up for Days We Rob on December twelfth
and nineteen eighty six, and my favorite song on that
(17:04):
record is Blunks Around the Ride.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Wow, okay, there you go. Well, I'm gonna do I'm
gonna do you one bear. I'm gonna come up with the.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Black and blue Nasty Nasty nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Teen Salmons produced.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Oh wow, wow, you got some love for fake Freely there,
all right?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Cool? I do.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I think I think they were there were an overall
old fan and I think that actually I'm playing with
them on the eleventh.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
And the eleventh Yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I think they got some some great songs. And also
I also I like the approach I had with the album.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
You know, cool, cool man, all right, My number six
then I went back on this one, going back to ah, yeah, man,
back to the early eighties Deth Leopard Pyromania.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
You can't you can't overlook def LEPPERD when it comes
to you know.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I mean, they ruled it, man, I mean, come on, man,
from high and dry all the way to hysteria. They
own the eighties and you got to give it to
them for sticking with each other.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
They just they just stuck with Steve Bark till the end.
They stuck with their drummer. Oh my god, what what what?
And nowadays it's such a with Midian and they just
stay in my I mean, how awesome is that?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Man? Those guys.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, you know kiss State, you know, Geene and Paul
states together, you know, so, I mean everything is possible.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, I'll stay together. But look what they did before.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
Eric Carr, Well yeah, money rates.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, yea terrible, terrible but yeah, yeah, def Flipper so
umber six.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I can't wait till you get up to number one,
because you obviously have a serious list that def lepper
I remain in number six on your list.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, I'm strange, man, I like what I like.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
And I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I don't I don't care what a male is, I
really know. So it's all about them.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
We still love you for that.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, It's all about the music and how it makes
me feel. Yeah. Yeah, we're halfway there, man.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
And just a caveat, I did not include def Leppard
because those first two records were not pair metal.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
They're heavy metal of that time. Maybe I'm wrong, you know, well.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Hold on, see see that's that's that's the great thing
about the three of us discussing this.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
We all have different different points of view on what
we consider right.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Right If I know right, if I included def Leopard
on this list, Hi and Try, it would be number one.
So but you know, and man, Gunge and Roses are
privvy number two. But that's just my thing. So it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So any against you, what's that.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
We're not holding it against you.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Thank you. I appreciate it, brother man. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
So the number five, my number five came out November
tenth of nineteen eighty one, the Motley Crue debut album,
which basically kicks started everything.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
If you asked me, nineteen eighty one is two years
before quote unquote hair metal started.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Uh you know, the Rock Journal is Sabbath specific meat
dat I put.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Up a fight for van and started. But hey, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh hell no, no, no, they're not.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Hell I understand the influence, but now they now anyways,
But right on, right on, right on. But my favorite
song on that debut Mottley Crue album is Piece of
Your Action Siger.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Hell yeah, all right, number five, that's not a problem.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I'm gonna come with a with a with a little
bit of a surprise there, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
And that's icon Knight of the Crime.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Oh wow, I am not familiar with that band. You
got well.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean I have to go back and and and
and and look through this because this goes back to
the days when I was when I was painting, and
I remember having that cassette tape Wow and O playing
it a lot of time, and it just said really
really well and it blew out a lot of all
(21:32):
the bands are just some really really cool.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Stuff and that and therefore they deserve to be in
there on my list. And that's that's just the way
it is.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Man.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I've heard a lot of good names about that band.
I have checked them out, but I haven't.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Oh well, that's the album that's the album.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
See and this right here, See why you saying that
is gonna make somebody like me your way, go and
check that out, be like wow, you know what I did, Mike,
really find a feeling about this band, you know, So
that's really cool?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Man, Hell yeah I can't. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Number five for me is I dude, I gotta give
it up for my boys, Bank Tango.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Psycho Cafe. I love Bang Tango, man. I get ripped
all the time online for being a fan of Bang
Tango and a couple other bands. But like I said,
I don't care. I love it man. I love how
they infused funk with the rocky metal. It's just awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Man.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, Bang Tango Psycho Cafe.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
That's a strong album at that time.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah yeah, you're familiar with it.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Oh no, I know the guys really well.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I lot, I draw a lot, cool, awesome whang.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Number four we're getting o ban out.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, number four. But let me because
not to keep repeating myself to be redundant.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
But if I could get a question real asked and
the gentleman that has a number.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Three pop pop hit on the Billboard one hundred Billboard
and number eight on the Billboard on a lot of
these bent and I'm not going to be a two face.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You know, I'm not exactly the biggest fan.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
But I acknowledge how amazingly how well they did. So anyways,
so uh yeah, so my number four came out February
seventh of nineteen eighty four, rat out of the Cellar
and my favorite song waned Band bad Apps.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well yeah, I've already mentioned that album myself. It's a
great album.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
You did, Yes, you did.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Rap strong album. I'm gonna come back with Wasp wasps
debut album.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Oh good one, good one, awesome good.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Where where they?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know, we all know that, you know, most of
this was a black but on that album, the songwriting.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Is really really strong.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
There are some big, big.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Big songs on that album that you can keep going
back and listening to for the sake of the songs,
not necessarily the concept of the band, but love Machine
and Sleeping with the Fire and Sleeping in the Fire,
I mean, you know, I want to be someone somebody
you know, And then and then in.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Later years the tat and sheet.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, well that you know, but exactly the That's why
the album stays a favorite album. The future of what
that band became I don't even pay any attention to.
But I can't this the songs. I can't this this
well recorded album that played well, great songs and and
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all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
That al that's my story and I'm sticking with it.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I mean, we've we've already reviewed Last Man.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
We loved Last com Man too, So okay, whilst we're
awesome man.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Those first few albums.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
My number four, believe it or not, is an old
punk band that that changed some members and they decided
to do like a hairband album.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
T s o L.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Strange Love.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Oh my god do I love that album and they
totally did the hair up and everything.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, awesome, awesome album man, tso L. And the drummer
Steven Adler from Guns and Roses Square is wearing a
T s o L T shirt in the Sweet Child
of My video, So there you go.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
T I mean, already there makes them.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
That makes them a hairband right away right by the fall?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah, absolutely no, But I don't know much about that band,
but man, I love that album. Then some chick gave
you that tape back and then or nine whenever it.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Was, I fell in love with it all right, what
nobody we're three man three yeah, you know, And I
got sidetracked.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
I was gonna ask Mike something when I talked about
for Physics as part of writing hit songs, I forgot
to answer ask him to my question, Mike, what's your
favorite nineteen seventy eight Kiss solo album?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I know this.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
You already know that that's a Paul Standi album.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Oh I did not know that, Okay, right.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, I mean I I it's not just as my
favorite solo album from Kiss, it's also my favorite Kiss album.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
That's incredible. Wow, wow, wow, Oh that's a man. That's
not a bad pic. It's an awesome album.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
That is I mean, it is it is.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That is a phenomenal album that I go back to the
same thing like we were just talking about WASP, regardless
of the of.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
The history and what the future became.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I can't this that the songs that Paul wrote for
that album are just phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And we got we got we gotta get props Bob
q a rist in Peace, I mean got a phenomenal
job he did on guitar and helping Paul craft those
songs into Wait.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You know, so you know that's awesome, man, awesome. All right.
So number three, yeah, number three, way.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
All right, And I want to ask Michael had a question,
but I'm gonna wait another kiss questions.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Some time at the end.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay, cool, all right, number three. This album was released
on May thirtieth, nineteen d and eighty five.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
The Year of Our Lord Rap Invasion of Your Privacy
And my big and my favorite song is lay It
Down there.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Hell yeah, awesome, man, that's an awesome thing, man Strong.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'm I'm a big, big fan of lay it down
to kill Us and stuff like that. So yeah, yeah,
I can give it to you, all right. My number three
Shout of the.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Devil, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And I remember when we were we were rehearsing in
Staffn the Island. Then I used to do this three
and a half hour journey from from where I lived
in a place called Rochelle Island, which is right underneath
the fifty nine street bridge in the river right between
Queens and Manhattan, and it took it.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
It was such a long journey. All the way there,
I listened.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
To Shout of the Devil and on my walkman, and
all the way back. And it was those those days
when the headphones weren't really isolated, so there was really
cranking and people just looking at me. But I just
remember how much that album at that time motivated me
to just do that almost six hour journey to to
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to play a couple you know hours rehearsal with White Ryan.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
You know, wow, that's awesome, man.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Favorite song too Young to Fall in Love?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Oh yeah, My favorite album would probably be ten Seconds Love.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I love that song.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great album man, And piggy back
to you on my number three is I'd Be Too
Fast with Love. I freaking I just I just love
that debut. I mean, I know a lot of people
say it's a demo, but it's it's their first album.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
But let's be honest, it was. It was released as
their first album, and I freaking love it, man, every
single song.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I mean, we've we've done it, we've reviewed it and
yeah yeah storry.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah I know.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
But there's a lot of there. There's a lot of
true true crew.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Atitude on that album. It had a great album cover.
There was a lot of attitude in it. You know,
I picked out of the Devil over that. But it's
it's an important album.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is all right now we're
getting down it out too. Is now number two, Wang
number two.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
And unfortunately I do not have a definitive date because
it was a It was a release on a very
I think Pine Coast, an indie label and everything releases.
It came out in May of nineteen eighty three, and
it is the Rat Ekey, the Rat epy and.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Blazing Metals part.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
You can say it hair metal blah blah blah, noel day,
this ship's metal sweet cheater.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
All right, man, right, wow, rat'scott their almost entire catalog.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I love Rat and that's you know, I'm just being.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Real awesome, man. Yeah, I love I love Brad too.
I didn't love him enough to put it either album
on this.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
I'll good, all good, but yeah, man, right on, there
you go. That's my number food.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
All right, all right, Mike number two.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I was just about to say, sure, that's not Stephen
Pierce's sit in there.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Yeah right, No, No, I don't have any hit songs
like you and Stephen Pearcy.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
All right, well, my number two goes to the the
other King of Jersey, mister John von Job and Slippery
when Wet.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Oh wow, wow, good call good call.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well it's it's it's really really hard to get around
that album and not yet.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
It was huge. Man, it was just a phenomenon. Let's
put be honest. I mean, they totally knocked it out
of the car them with Desmond.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Oh my god, it would be hard to say they yes,
it would, it wouldn't and.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
The song and the song still stand the test of time.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
There was just you know, I mean, you know, every
song on that album is basically a hit.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
And I'd be a.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Liar and hypry if I did say I didn't like
some of it.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I do like some of those songs.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I just never I never honestly bought into it. I
never purchased any bon jovie, but they never got my money.
But I still liked a lot of the songs though,
So you have.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
To be there.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah, I guess, I guess. Man.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I was not at the Barn Joe again at that
time though, But uh.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Number two, this is off the wall that god. I
loved this album man. Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Gene Simmons side band, Easy Oh, Fire Fire. They they
totally went from you know, We're gonna, We're gonna mimic
kiss it, have the Kobuki, theak a body and write
these weird songs to be in a still practically glam band.
Man and dude, I love that album that Firefire a
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million miles away, all that stuff. Love junkie killer album
at Easier for me, number two, yep, all right, it's
number one.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Here we go, drum roll, drum roll, go far away,
number one.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
All right, Well before I get to number one. Uh,
you know.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
That's funny is all these bands everything, And I'm not
kissing his ass because I'm you know, I'm just being real.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I respect his ass.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
But our guests had bigger hits than all these bands
that I'm listening pretty much. No what I mean what
I'm listening. You guys listed bands that I'm not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know, just paying respect everything, not be two face.
I know I'm not the biggest fan, number but fully respectively.
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And it was number one, the number one pair metal
album for me personally. Came out set and now Mike's
brought this up. September twenty sixth of nineteen, one hundred
and eighty three Motley Crue Shout of the Devil. I saw,
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I saw Mottley Crew open up for Kiss on Easter
Sunday of nineteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
And eighty three, about half a mile.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
South from where I am right now in San Francisco,
and they played a couple of songs on the album
Four Months to Court was released. My favorite song on
the record is red Hot. I think it's Motley Crue
for the time being heavy metal in nineteen eighty three,
Shout in nineteen hundred and eighty three, Shout of the
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Devil was heavy fucking metal.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
It was man that double baby.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Yeah there, hair metal and all that. Just the tags,
you know, and we're playing along because you know. But yeah, man,
I absolutely adore the ship. And my favorite song, one
of many, is red Hot to they Ain't Go.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
That's the number one.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Hey, awesome, man, awesome, Mike thought you.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I thought you might have a cassette, say from rap
before they became raps.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
No no no no no no no no no no
no no. I got into rat after I got into
Mamby Proof, you know, within a year or two. But yeah, man,
I think that's uh, that's that's my number one.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
I am it's it's not a bad choice. I had
it on too.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I'm back with you. I'm gonna come and choose Pyromania
for me, awes and and as as you meant, you know,
this is the Flepper's third album, you know, coming in
eighty two, of course, you know, eight eighty three, February
eight exactly, And so I feel totally fine with using
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that as as an eighties album. And and but the
album is just so strong, it's so well produced. I
do like where it still has the feeling of high
and dry and on through the night.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
And it's a great album.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Nothing necessarily the best haircuts, but they're English, so you
know how that.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
Is a phenomenal album, fall, phenomenal performance, great vote by Joe,
Joe Elliott and Joe still still a bit of that
great guitar work that that's on High and Dry where.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
They they sort of you know, visited you know, the
a c DC camp with Modelang and and that stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And I can put that album on anytime and it
stands satiesta time, just as most.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Of the album that.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Awesome. Man. Well, you guys can probably guess my number
one out there.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Let me guess White Lion.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Wait, yes, White Lion Pride is my favorite favorite.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Beats them all.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I'm not saying that because we got mic here man,
I swear to god, I told Mike this in person.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
That album meant so much to me at that time.
I mean, with Vetos guitar playing Mike's lyrics, it just
connected to me big time. I mean, I mean, honestly,
all three of your first albums could have been in
this list for me, because I love all three.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Fight to Survive, Pride in Big Game and Main Attraction
too for that matter. But yeah, but Pride, Pride rules
them all for me. Man, just the way it is.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Man, it's a it's a it's a free world. You're
you're allowed to do it, have that, you know.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Yeah, let me hold on, take it down me. Let
me interject. Seeking Stanley is not saying this because this
gentleman is on our fucking show. When we started this
podcast October ninth of twenty twenty three, he told me
to my face that album was his number one because
we we kind of loosely were talking about the hair
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metal album.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, so I'm here to fucking give massive.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah. You can go back to all of our previous episodes,
like what was it like our tenth episode somewhere back
in there where you said that yeah, and I was
like yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Yeah, no, your love of that that this man's music
is authentic and legit.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I can't say how many hours I sat there trying
to play that week solo.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Man, you're a you're a guitar player, and you were
in a band.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
So yeah, yeah, I played that song religiously in cover
bands for decades. Yeah did I did I nail that solo?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Hold?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
No, ain't no way up like Vito man, you know,
except for uh miss mister dad there he does a
killer job.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Man, he really knows.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Man.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
But but yeah, I mean that that album was just
something special man, at a time, at a time where
I was learning to drive and drive around tow with cassettes.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
You know, it was just awesome. It was just awesome, man.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeppressive hell yeah yep yeah yeah so uh so uh
Wang he got a couple of questions you wanted to ask, Mike,
I got a couple too before before he gets out
of here.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
Yeah, I certainly do have because uh he's not too far.
He's he's only a few years older than me, so
me and him have the same DNA as far as
the era of music and everything. But my question to
Mike is, Mike, if somebody had a gun to your
head and hopefully they never do. Hopefully it's no jagg
(39:58):
E Lee moment in Las Vegas. But my question to
you is, what are your top five And I know
you said Ace is one of them, which is legit
it has Kiss on the cover.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
What are your top five Kiss albums?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Boy, here we go wow talk.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
About and of course you know I can just pull
them out of my pocket just like that.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
That's my ask.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well, yeah, no, exactly, So you know, it's it, you know,
I mean i'd go with you know, dress and now
it's now I'm really gonna reveal of how much I
know about Kiss. I you know, I you know, love
Gun Gun, Love Gun Destroyer, and I really like Unmasked.
(40:49):
I think there's some great great songs on I really
love Creatures of the Night's. Yeah, you know, it always
goes with you know, rock and rollan I or you know,
(41:11):
or or Dressed to Kill you know what I mean,
I do I do like that that.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Also, you know, later on in the time, I think
that there came a lot of great songs that somehow
to me just got a little little loss because Kiss
his own, you know, way of fighting into the eighties,
without the makeup sometime, you know, just it took a
little away from from the sound they had created so uniquely.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
With with the first couple of albums.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
In New York and that great concept they had, and
and and then bit by bit.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
So it is basically the original album.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
So if you go Dress to Kill, you know, Love,
Gun Destroyer, Unmasked, Increasures of the Night, and so it
is all all make up albums.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Wow Man Unmasked is one of my favorite piss albums,
by the way, So elaborate just a little bit before
on Unmasked.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
What is it about Unmasked? It gets you.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I I I'm actually discovering on masks while I'm still
living in Spain and and and sort of preparing my
my my journey towards America. I'm now being completely Americanized
and and everything that way. So so I so that
album when that arrives, it's just it's just being completely
dissected about what the album, you know, consists of of.
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There are so many different songs from that, you know,
I mean Gene right, you know, she's so European, and
and and and.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Of course Shandy and and what does age.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Come with ac It's city Gene too.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
That's a truly it's exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I mean, it's it's it's you know, I would actually
love to hear that song remixed and and make it
a little fat or sounding. It's a little thin sounding,
but it's albums. But there are some great songwriting in
that album, you know, and it just goes and and
then of course I think that the album Cobble was brilliant.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
So do I.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Man.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I love the concept of the cartoons, man, I love
I love I love it, man, because.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
It made way for me to need to take that
thing and say I still say these thinks.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Yeah, Man, let me ask.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Them another question, So, Mike, actually I have a few
more questions. So what's your favorite Fan Halen albums? Dan
Halen album and what's your favorite ac DC album?
Speaker 1 (43:44):
If you don't mind answering that question, brother.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I don't mind answering simple questions like that. I mean
you could have answered something, you know, what, what's your
favorite Buff Dylan album?
Speaker 1 (43:55):
No, I'm not, I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Know, it's it's like, how the hell do you really
think define that? Because it has changed. I'm of course
falling in love with the first fan album that will
never nothing will ever take away from that, and for
a while you really live that. Now, when you go
back and revisit the rough years, I seem to end
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up on fair warning a lot of times.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
It's just.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's so raw, and they're there, you know, they're in
that way.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
It's just it's there's thinking.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Less of foot man, those first four albums. I mean,
I could take any of those albums go.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
On in deserted islands.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Oh yeah, I mean I cannot get away from high
right or hell. I think that, I think that. I
I mean, I mean, first of all, I'm a I'm
all bon Scott from all the way, all the way,
all the way and high rateer hell is.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
You know, man, they just.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Made a classic. Yeah they did ye.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Speaking of kiss real quick, there's a picture floating around
for years of you veto and Paul backstage. I think
Paul has this little little number fifty three shirt on
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
So you must have toured with them on crazy nights.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Huh, Yeah, of course that was.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
That was happened there in November and November thirteen, eighty
eighty seven. That tour started up until close to Christmas,
and you know this was was it was the album
that somehow, you know, they felt was really going to
to bring.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Them further off the charge.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
And it became a little bit, unfortunately for us, a
bit of a struggle tour for them, and and they
had to.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Do a lot of adjustment and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
But still for us to get that opportunity, you know,
we can never look back and not saying what a
great honor was and and and.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
How big it just was.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
From one day playing a club and then then two
days later going out in Jackson, Mississippi, being the first
night of the.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
Tour and and you know, just having a great run
with him.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yeah, that's awesome, man, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
I actually heard some stuff and they were running a
lot of tracks on that tour with.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
Those were the days.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Those were the days before we even started looking at that,
you know, I mean, oh, it's so hard to go
back and look at.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
What was you know, like we've always wanted to was
just going out.
Speaker 10 (46:50):
And using our fifty minutes to the max and just
seeing we could get if we could get Wideline across
the stage and out into the audience and see you know,
you know, read the benefits from that, and eventually, with time,
it proved that that tour was was what we needed
and it led us Uh Joony a couple of months
(47:11):
after we finished with Kiss Too to join Aerosmith, and
now it was big time.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Wow, cool cool, Hey, I mean I got to ask
you too, being from Denmark, any any association did you
ever know, like King Diamond and fake guys.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, I know, I know, And yeah, of course we
come from from from from.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
The little town of Copenhagen, things like that.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
It would be later on, we would we would sort
of be visiting each other.
Speaker 5 (47:41):
Later on on somewhere on the road.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Actually many times, a couple of times when they played
a little more with personal Fate and we were rehearsing downstairs,
I got to say say to hi them and and
these days, you know, Michael Danner, the original GUITARPLA, has
a record store in Copenhagen that you know, if you're
really into Vinchance vinyl and stuff like that, you go
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there and most people.
Speaker 5 (48:06):
Come to call me hate and go to there.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
So yeah, that's awesome, man, that's awesome. I got one
more question for you, and I want to know what
did you think or were you aware of, because when
when I saw this on TV.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
My jaw dropped.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
I was just like, oh my god, no way, he's
not singing this song. The whole American idol thing when
that kid got up there and sang broken Heart.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Yeah? No, yeah, I would. Yeah, it's you know, it's
just one. It's just one of those things.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
And you know, I was called up, you know, I
was in Europa that time, and I was called up
by a journalist because I guess Steven Tyler had made
a comment that he didn't think that was a right
song for him to sing, and then they wanted some
sort of controversial.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
Comment, you know, etcetera, et cetera. But you know, when
you look back at those kind of things, you're just honored.
You just honored, you know. I mean, he chose, he
chose Broken Heart.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I mean, if he had chosen Wade, he would probably
had had more feedback.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
From from uh, from from from.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
From Stephen Tyler because obviously, you know, I remember the
first night we started with with Aerosmith. H I ran
in to Stephen Tyland the hallway and the first thing
he did to me was wait, so you know that
song had landed with him. So I mean, you know,
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you know, how things.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Are, you know, but still that's so cool, man, because
I just remember seeing that my jaw dropping.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
I turned to my wife and I was like, this
is back when me and my wife would sit there
and watch American I don't watch it no more. I
was just like, oh my god, that's White Life. It's
the single White Lion song and Broken Heart.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
It was like, really really cool, the main attraction version.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Yeah, yeah, very cool man.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
Yeah, very good guys.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
Yeah man, So Wane, you got anything else from Mike? Mike,
what are you doing? What are you doing now? What
are you guys coming up?
Speaker 5 (50:16):
Well, I mean we're we're pretty close to.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Releasing like the last of the tril you know, the
trio completing the trilogy, Volume three of Mike Trams Songs
of White Line where we recorded the old.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
Songs yea, and.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
The Volume three is I think it's gonna take people
by surprise.
Speaker 5 (50:35):
We've done some some.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Done some great things to some of the fight to
survive songs that, you know, bringing them into the future
but still keeping them as original as possible and also
kind of like, in lack of better words, that is
how my trans White Lion sounds. In twenty twenty five
and made it to the future. So we got that
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album coming off pretty soon. The four singles should probably
hit two to three weeks, four weeks maybe with a
new video and things like that, and we'll be torn,
you know, for the rest of the year in and
out of the US, you know, jumping around and and
and just continuine awesome.
Speaker 6 (51:16):
Man.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Great, So that's so cool, man. I can't wait to
see you again.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
Man, I'll be at it. You got it.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
I will be there.
Speaker 5 (51:24):
Thanks for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Thanks for the opportunity to risk revisiting it a time
that actually meant a lot to me.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Oh, I'm sure it does.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Man.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
You lived it, dude, it's live it.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
That is so awesome, man, I live to tell Yeah.
We so appreciate you doing this and joining us.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Man, really it was. It was awesome man. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
Thank you, Tim, Thank you Bill.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yep, right on at one more question. One more question. No,
I have like one hundred courses.
Speaker 6 (51:54):
I don't get to talk to people that have two
top ten singles, a double platinum. I'm just being real, man.
So if you don't mind, give me a couple of
words about what's your opinion about the band that has
become by far the biggest heavy metal band on the planet, Metallica.
(52:14):
And then the second question and closing, if you don't mind,
who has a better discography Judas Briest or Iron Made Fit.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
Oh wow wow?
Speaker 5 (52:28):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
I saw Metallica in nineteen eighty three and Queen's Boulevard
at my manager's all the club called Lamore's East, which
was in Queen's Boulevard. In the Queen's they were opening
up for Ravens, so I already I already saw them
and got into the Metallica world from that time. When
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when Metallica came around on a tour Wind Wasp, Metallic
and Armoured Shane, they used widelines rehearsal room as a
dressing room, and when they played Lemorris in Brooklyn and
I started, I met Loss for the first time and
we started understanding that we both were Danes. And and
(53:14):
I've seen Metallica a hundred times since in a Loss
have always invited me and stuff like that. I mean,
when you get to the point that they delivered a
phenomenal album with a black album following, you know, of
course injustice for all the massive puppets.
Speaker 8 (53:34):
Uh, they had some very smart, powerful people that were
able to really guide the band to become what it is.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
And one thing that I've noticed for every decade, Metallica
have managed to to to get the new a new
audience while they're still were holding on to the old ones.
So they're they're still cool for the young kids that
up coming in, so they're they're not just do they
bring the old generation with them, they also add another generation.
(54:07):
And that's that's just phenomenal that they've been able to
to do that. And and you know, what can you
say to that? I mean, it's just you know, I mean,
we know this.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
What's your favorite Metallic album?
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Massive Puppets and to and to answer your last.
Speaker 6 (54:28):
Question, yeah, I ad I won't ask you any more questions.
Speaker 5 (54:32):
I am mag by far. I don't I don't think
Jude just Priests.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Have done a good album since uh, what's what's another
thing coming there?
Speaker 5 (54:41):
What was the album called? Exactly? You know that that's
where Priests ended right there?
Speaker 2 (54:49):
For me, but for Maiden have just you know, I mean,
besides the two albums without with without Bruce Dickinson. But
I'm you know, it's not that I'm I'm massive MA
fan but I'm just really I just love once they
hailed onto the concept of what that band was and
the themes and stuff like that, all the different involvements
(55:10):
and stuff like that, and today they're just phenomenal live
band and they've still got a singer that's that that
are able to lift the band. And of course I
should really be kissing his feet because without without Dickinson,
that is the sound of Maiden.
Speaker 4 (55:24):
You know, thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Thank you so much. Mine appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (55:32):
All right, everybody, plice you guys. I will be talking
to you whenever I need to promote something.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Hell yeh man, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (55:41):
I've got it.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
Guys, You're welcome anytime.
Speaker 5 (55:43):
You know that, and you all right.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
Well that concludes another episode of The Thinking Way, so
we'll see it next time.
Speaker 5 (55:54):
Damn think aren't in production, Bail
Samcast Media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey there, it's my Tramp from Wide Line and you
both watching and listening to the Sinking Wang Show.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Sinking Stanley Here, people aren't listen Bill Wang here people
ba ba bam.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Oh Man, we got it lost and so today, man,
we got it.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We got a legendary vocalist of White Lie with us
with a prolific solo.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Career, mister Mike Tramp.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Oh Man, Mike, how you do it?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Buddy?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Thanks for having me, guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Oh Man, thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Man. Listen, Man, since I saw you last night, you've
been all over the world.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Man, I mean, we've gotta spread the love.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
We gotta spread the rock and roll and it's you know,
I kind of one day.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Asked myself what is it that you're doing, and I said,
you know, well, you're playing rock and roll and you've
now been doing it for forty nine years.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, but it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You were like down in Australia. Did you go somewhere
like in.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Phillip somewhere phillippeans the Philippines.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, we gotta we gotta test it out. And
now we're back in the US and it's pretty soon
going to Europe for a couple of festivals and being.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Back in the US.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
You know, it's it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You gotta go where the grass is green.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Hey, you know you gotta spread the love. Hell yeah, yeah,
it's awesome, man.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
But listen, what's you tell everybody what we're going to
talk about? Wang came up with this awesome idea, and
then I said, Hey, why don't we get a guy
that freaking lived it, that was right in this.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
So Wang, tell everybody what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, what we're going to do, and that we came.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
I came up with this idea for just me and
Sicke it's down, and then he brought in the guy
that sold double platinum with two top eight.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Hits on the Billboard one hundred and for the record.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I saw this gentleman on June eighteenth of nineteen eighty
eight at the Shoreline Amphitheater and Mountain View, California, opening
up for the ac DC Who Made Who.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Tour, And then I saw him on.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Which is fitting because today is Ozzie Osborne's lap for Hormans.
I saw him open up for Ozzy or his band
excuse me, open up for Ozzy Osborne Osbourne on the
No Rest for the Wicked tour on Friday, August fourth,
nineteen eighty nine at the same place, the Shoreline Amphitheater
in Mountain View, California.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Wow, man, you know, and you're right on.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I was there and I saw it.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I saw you.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I saw you back at the Daytone Ocean Center. I
think it was ninety one with Tangier and Cinderella.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That would have been eighty nine, eighty nine. Oh when's
that ros Wow? Wow, yeah, yeah, I'm bad at the years.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Man, Yeah, he is, he is here.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I actually thought you were gonna say, well, yeah, and
I saw him down at the local Walmart.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
And oh no, no, no, I saw you a game tour.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
You guys have tearing it up and that it was
an awesome show. I was right up on the front,
right in front.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
What we're gonna do is we're gonna have the double
platinum artists help us out, and we're gonna talk our
personal top ten hair metal bands, hair metal albums, excuse me,
hair metal albums. And I know of connotations negative and everything,
but I.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Think if you're really honest within yourself and everything.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Hair band not so, I mean, I have issues, so
I'm not gonna really go there. But hair band this
sounds a lot shittier than hair metal.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
At least there's metal in yourself.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
We're gonna talk about our three top ten hair metal albums.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, way, like Actually, I actually would like to know
what is a hair metal band?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Then?
Speaker 6 (04:47):
A hair metal band is something that you know, I'm
old enough.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm only a few years younger than you.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
My Uh, basically that's true. And if you'll notice with
my list, it's a lot of the early to mid
so by that juncture, that term didn't even exist. That
term came after the scene. So but I think, you know,
I used to call it back when I was in
(05:14):
the shout out to Double and right out and out
of the Cellar and everything.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I called it la metal and then it branched out.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
But you know, the grunge people and whatnot termed it
hair metal, so you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
So it was it was like it was like kiss
trying to be fun Jovi. Yeah, he got right.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, Well why don't we get into this, man,
that's gonna be fun as well.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Man, let's get into this.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Dang, why don't you start, Then we'll go to Mike,
and then we'll go to be able to keep it
going like that.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Right on, man, this is very simple except the back end.
I wasn't sure, but I got at number ten. Uh
the self hi Number ten released on January fourth of
nineteen eighty eight, the self titled debut album by La
Guns and just for a caveat, my favorite song on
(06:11):
the record is no Mercy.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Bare cool cool, Mike, what you got from number ten?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well, I'm gonna let you guys go with the dates
and all that little line of notes and stuff like that.
It was hard enough just from you to it to
write down the top ten.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
You know, band lists.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
We're interested in the same way. You can consider it like.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
You know, like like I'm actually listening to it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But but so my list is definitely not in any
particular order and things like that.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
But I'll go with the rat out of the seller.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Hell, yeah, that's an awesome thick man rounded round.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
That's a great album.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I mean they got I mean, what did they have
five six strong songs on that album?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah? That's a monster.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah it was man.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
My number was the debut from skid Row, Now you
know that that's where it gets ippy.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
You know, was skid Row was Guns and Roses hair metal?
I don't know. I don't know if they were they
were well.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
You know I listened today they are because they're.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
On my list and stuff like that, and I'm not
you know, like going in here and figuring out.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
You know, they all had long hair. Yeah, it's styling
the hair. It's hair metal.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yep, Spandex and the what were they called?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Man, what did you call the boots? Man? Everybody had
the rock star boots on.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Man, It's just it was the uniform.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
It was it really was Wang number nine.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
You know, I do want to say something that's very important.
I did not include any of the seventies bands that.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Cling dong to the hair hair metal thing.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I could put Kissing there, Oggioshoorn Ultimate Sin, David Lee, Roth,
Eat Him's Mouth, Skyspray for I know, I just thought
I wanted to give the first generation, the people, the
younger people that were ten years younger than those seventies
artists and everything. So just just for context, I wanted
because I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's fair, that's you know, that's just me, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
So anyways, so number nine released on September twenty fourth,
nineteen eighty six. Rat Dancing Undercover My favorite song on
the record, slip of the Lift.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Hell yeah, all right, Rat, I get a lot of
love right off the bat, Mike, Yeah, for number nine.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, like I said, it's not a particular order, but anyway,
I go with Leeda Fort's album Leader.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Wow, cool? Cool? What drummer played on that? Was there
a singer on that? We'll see. I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I'm the only thing about the Bobby rock and stuff
like that. Oh my good.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Don't make me sound like I really know of what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
I just know there were I mean, besides, of course
it kissed Me deadly.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
There are a couple of really badass songs on that one.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah cool cool.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
If you Mike, wasn't if you Close your Eyes with
Aufi on that?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It was number ten actually last song on the album.
I just had to look at that right on, right on.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, it's very cool.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well, my number nine, I got to get some love
to those guys from Texas Man Dangerous Toys Man that
debut and just so you guys know, Mike Crik here is.
I had to like every single song on the album.
I had to like, I had to like, I had
to know the album inside out. And I love the
Dangerous Toys debut with Queen of the Nile Scared you know,
(09:55):
teams and please and support the Woody all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Man, I love the whole album awesome. Yeah, Dangerous Toys.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Well, I'm in the middle.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'm in the middle of doing a deck and I'm
also doing launder, So I really couldn't go through every
single song and confirm that I like every single song.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, all right, way what you got for number eight? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
And uh, just there for transparency on you what you
just said? Sick of telling I'm not saying I like
every single song on these albums, no way, I'm.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Just saying I am. That was fun.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
No, no, right, that's all good man.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
But okay, So my number eight was released on November
twenty second, nineteen and eighty five, the year of our
Lord Ducking under Lock and Key.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And my favorite form of the record is unchained the.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Night fair, nice nuck it.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
If I'm gonna go with fast a pussy kid, wake
me when it's over right.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
That is a great one, man.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And of course, of course, of course you know, the
House of Pain is is a is a phenomenal song,
and of course it's going to lift the album up
to a different heid for me.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Oh I got to ask you, man, since you brought
that up House, take even one of your favorite songs
on that that kind of mirrors a little bit of
one of your songs from Big Game.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, man, up, yeah, exactly, you know, I mean, there's
just kind of those things that when you were done,
you know, writing nine songs about t NA, you say it,
you know, let me just do you know, a serious song.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
But you know, I never want to be the one
to put the extra sext.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
No, no you did. Hell yeah, that's a great line.
Awesome man. All right man, My number eight is Cinderella
Night Songs.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You love it, man, I mean I love I love
Longbow Winzard just as much. But I gotta give gotta
give the Knights on the Scene absolutely great album.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And that's about this plaming.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You can get that cover and they never seemed to
They didn't carry it on. They just did it on
that cover and then boom gone.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
They Yeah, they just looked like a rock and old band,
you know.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And when I saw him with you guys, man, it
was just that was an incredible show man. I mean, yeah,
Jeff and Keith Jeff.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And then doing the dueling guitars on the less pause. Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Wow, it was incredible man. Yeah, all right, number seven.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yes, sir, We're up to number seven. And there's a
theme on here, so there's a lot of this. I
have a lot of the same fans everything, but that's
just my ship, you know what I'm saying. I was
very young in the early part of the eighties and everything,
and then I got into different music everything.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Anyways.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Number seven released on September seventeenth, nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Duckin Tooth and Nail.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
My favorite song on the record is the intro without
Warning and then Tooth and Nail.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I love that shit.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Fan hell yeah, two for Duckkin, Yes sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Awesome, awesome, Well let's let's keep it too for something
and I'm gonna go with Cinderella long Cole Wind or
the favorite song long you know, the last mile.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Awesome, man, awesome, great, great album. That is a great.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Album that obviously that was the album that we toured
with Cinderella on It.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Was a great tour, man, a great tour. Love it,
great memories man.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
For me number seven, dude, I gotta give it. I
gotta give it to.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Uh who knows what he is.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Right now, But I guess mister Vinny Vincent aw Systems go.
I love that album man, All systems go with Mark
Slaughter on voices.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
They just they just piled it on that album.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
They really restrained Vinnie's guitar playing it and Uh put
out some put out a great album.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Man even knows even on Nightmarre on ELM Street Man.
So props to Vinnie. Man. He shot himself on the
foot Man. He just couldn't seem to keep it together
when he had it all going for himself. God, And
I don't know what's wrong with that guy.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Well yeah, I mean he definitely shot himself somewhere, but
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
It's he did then, and everybody says it then. Everything
one person I know have a good word about it guy.
And it's sad.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It's sad because it's such a talent man, such a
talent is such great songs man. That time of year
was incredible. But anyway, enough about Vinnie Wag number six.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah, number six, but real fast, I know we only
got a certain amount of time with the double platinum
Martive real fast, and I want to ask the author
to kiss.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Questions, but we understand we were a certain amount of time.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
But real fast, you know a sentence or two. Did you
have any personal recollection or experience when Ginny.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Pinson, Well he wasn't then Kiss when we toured with Kiss,
but I do remember one one, you know, observation that
my manager owned this rock club in Brooklyn, coll l
the Moores Rock Cavalo of Brooklyn, and underneath the stage
(15:35):
was Wide Lions rehearsal room, basically meaning.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
That I was at that place, you know, seven days
a week. And I remember one day that.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Vinnie's Vinny Benson was was was playing Lamar that night,
and he arrived at the same time as the cleaning
crew came from the night before cleaning up the vignette,
and you know, I which would be in there earlier on.
So I think he arrived already about like eleven twelve
noon and wasn't going up on stage before twelve of midnight,
(16:09):
and he was already dressed up.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
I found just a little awkward, but then again.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Wow, so thank you brother for answering that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
So he he wore that persona everywhere he went.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
There you talking full makeup and everything. Wow, you know,
incredible all right, So.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, thank you for answering my question.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Double platinum artist Number six for Me was released on
June ninth of nineteen eighty six, and it is the
Cinderella debut album Night Songs, And I saw that tour.
They open up for Days We Rob on December twelfth
and nineteen eighty six, and my favorite song on that
(17:04):
record is Blunks Around the Ride.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Wow, okay, there you go. Well, I'm gonna do I'm
gonna do you one bear. I'm gonna come up with the.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Black and blue Nasty Nasty nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Teen Salmons produced.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Oh wow, wow, you got some love for fake Freely there,
all right?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Cool? I do.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I think I think they were there were an overall
old fan and I think that actually I'm playing with
them on the eleventh.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
And the eleventh Yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I think they got some some great songs. And also
I also I like the approach I had with the album.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
You know, cool, cool man, all right, My number six
then I went back on this one, going back to ah, yeah, man,
back to the early eighties Deth Leopard Pyromania.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
You can't you can't overlook def LEPPERD when it comes
to you know.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I mean, they ruled it, man, I mean, come on, man,
from high and dry all the way to hysteria. They
own the eighties and you got to give it to
them for sticking with each other.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
They just they just stuck with Steve Bark till the end.
They stuck with their drummer. Oh my god, what what what?
And nowadays it's such a with Midian and they just
stay in my I mean, how awesome is that?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Man? Those guys.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, you know kiss State, you know, Geene and Paul
states together, you know, so, I mean everything is possible.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, I'll stay together. But look what they did before.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
Eric Carr, Well yeah, money rates.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, yea terrible, terrible but yeah, yeah, def Flipper so
umber six.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I can't wait till you get up to number one,
because you obviously have a serious list that def lepper
I remain in number six on your list.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, I'm strange, man, I like what I like.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
And I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I don't I don't care what a male is, I
really know. So it's all about them.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
We still love you for that.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, It's all about the music and how it makes
me feel. Yeah. Yeah, we're halfway there, man.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
And just a caveat, I did not include def Leppard
because those first two records were not pair metal.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
They're heavy metal of that time. Maybe I'm wrong, you know, well.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Hold on, see see that's that's that's the great thing
about the three of us discussing this.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
We all have different different points of view on what
we consider right.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Right If I know right, if I included def Leopard
on this list, Hi and Try, it would be number one.
So but you know, and man, Gunge and Roses are
privvy number two. But that's just my thing. So it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So any against you, what's that.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
We're not holding it against you.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Thank you. I appreciate it, brother man. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
So the number five, my number five came out November
tenth of nineteen eighty one, the Motley Crue debut album,
which basically kicks started everything.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
If you asked me, nineteen eighty one is two years
before quote unquote hair metal started.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Uh you know, the Rock Journal is Sabbath specific meat
dat I put.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Up a fight for van and started. But hey, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh hell no, no, no, they're not.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Hell I understand the influence, but now they now anyways,
But right on, right on, right on. But my favorite
song on that debut Mottley Crue album is Piece of
Your Action Siger.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Hell yeah, all right, number five, that's not a problem.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I'm gonna come with a with a with a little
bit of a surprise there, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
And that's icon Knight of the Crime.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Oh wow, I am not familiar with that band. You
got well.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean I have to go back and and and
and and look through this because this goes back to
the days when I was when I was painting, and
I remember having that cassette tape Wow and O playing
it a lot of time, and it just said really
really well and it blew out a lot of all
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the bands are just some really really cool.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Stuff and that and therefore they deserve to be in
there on my list. And that's that's just the way
it is.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Man.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I've heard a lot of good names about that band.
I have checked them out, but I haven't.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Oh well, that's the album that's the album.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
See and this right here, See why you saying that
is gonna make somebody like me your way, go and
check that out, be like wow, you know what I did, Mike,
really find a feeling about this band, you know, So
that's really cool?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Man, Hell yeah I can't. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Number five for me is I dude, I gotta give
it up for my boys, Bank Tango.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Psycho Cafe. I love Bang Tango, man. I get ripped
all the time online for being a fan of Bang
Tango and a couple other bands. But like I said,
I don't care. I love it man. I love how
they infused funk with the rocky metal. It's just awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Man.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, Bang Tango Psycho Cafe.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
That's a strong album at that time.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah yeah, you're familiar with it.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Oh no, I know the guys really well.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I lot, I draw a lot, cool, awesome whang.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Number four we're getting o ban out.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, number four. But let me because
not to keep repeating myself to be redundant.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
But if I could get a question real asked and
the gentleman that has a number.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Three pop pop hit on the Billboard one hundred Billboard
and number eight on the Billboard on a lot of
these bent and I'm not going to be a two face.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You know, I'm not exactly the biggest fan.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
But I acknowledge how amazingly how well they did. So anyways,
so uh yeah, so my number four came out February
seventh of nineteen eighty four, rat out of the Cellar
and my favorite song waned Band bad Apps.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well yeah, I've already mentioned that album myself. It's a
great album.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
You did, Yes, you did.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Rap strong album. I'm gonna come back with Wasp wasps
debut album.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Oh good one, good one, awesome good.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Where where they?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know, we all know that, you know, most of
this was a black but on that album, the songwriting.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Is really really strong.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
There are some big, big.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Big songs on that album that you can keep going
back and listening to for the sake of the songs,
not necessarily the concept of the band, but love Machine
and Sleeping with the Fire and Sleeping in the Fire,
I mean, you know, I want to be someone somebody
you know, And then and then in.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Later years the tat and sheet.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, well that you know, but exactly the That's why
the album stays a favorite album. The future of what
that band became I don't even pay any attention to.
But I can't this the songs. I can't this this
well recorded album that played well, great songs and and
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all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
That al that's my story and I'm sticking with it.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I mean, we've we've already reviewed Last Man.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
We loved Last com Man too, So okay, whilst we're
awesome man.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Those first few albums.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
My number four, believe it or not, is an old
punk band that that changed some members and they decided
to do like a hairband album.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
T s o L.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Strange Love.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Oh my god do I love that album and they
totally did the hair up and everything.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, awesome, awesome album man, tso L. And the drummer
Steven Adler from Guns and Roses Square is wearing a
T s o L T shirt in the Sweet Child
of My video, So there you go.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
T I mean, already there makes them.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
That makes them a hairband right away right by the fall?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah, absolutely no, But I don't know much about that band,
but man, I love that album. Then some chick gave
you that tape back and then or nine whenever it.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Was, I fell in love with it all right, what
nobody we're three man three yeah, you know, And I
got sidetracked.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
I was gonna ask Mike something when I talked about
for Physics as part of writing hit songs, I forgot
to answer ask him to my question, Mike, what's your
favorite nineteen seventy eight Kiss solo album?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I know this.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
You already know that that's a Paul Standi album.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Oh I did not know that, Okay, right.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, I mean I I it's not just as my
favorite solo album from Kiss, it's also my favorite Kiss album.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
That's incredible. Wow, wow, wow, Oh that's a man. That's
not a bad pic. It's an awesome album.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
That is I mean, it is it is.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That is a phenomenal album that I go back to the
same thing like we were just talking about WASP, regardless
of the of.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
The history and what the future became.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I can't this that the songs that Paul wrote for
that album are just phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And we got we got we gotta get props Bob
q a rist in Peace, I mean got a phenomenal
job he did on guitar and helping Paul craft those
songs into Wait.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You know, so you know that's awesome, man, awesome. All right.
So number three, yeah, number three, way.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
All right, And I want to ask Michael had a question,
but I'm gonna wait another kiss questions.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Some time at the end.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay, cool, all right, number three. This album was released
on May thirtieth, nineteen d and eighty five.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
The Year of Our Lord Rap Invasion of Your Privacy
And my big and my favorite song is lay It
Down there.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Hell yeah, awesome, man, that's an awesome thing, man Strong.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'm I'm a big, big fan of lay it down
to kill Us and stuff like that. So yeah, yeah,
I can give it to you, all right. My number three
Shout of the.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Devil, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And I remember when we were we were rehearsing in
Staffn the Island. Then I used to do this three
and a half hour journey from from where I lived
in a place called Rochelle Island, which is right underneath
the fifty nine street bridge in the river right between
Queens and Manhattan, and it took it.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
It was such a long journey. All the way there,
I listened.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
To Shout of the Devil and on my walkman, and
all the way back. And it was those those days
when the headphones weren't really isolated, so there was really
cranking and people just looking at me. But I just
remember how much that album at that time motivated me
to just do that almost six hour journey to to
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to play a couple you know hours rehearsal with White Ryan.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
You know, wow, that's awesome, man.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Favorite song too Young to Fall in Love?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Oh yeah, My favorite album would probably be ten Seconds Love.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I love that song.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great album man, And piggy back
to you on my number three is I'd Be Too
Fast with Love. I freaking I just I just love
that debut. I mean, I know a lot of people
say it's a demo, but it's it's their first album.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
But let's be honest, it was. It was released as
their first album, and I freaking love it, man, every
single song.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I mean, we've we've done it, we've reviewed it and
yeah yeah storry.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah I know.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
But there's a lot of there. There's a lot of
true true crew.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Atitude on that album. It had a great album cover.
There was a lot of attitude in it. You know,
I picked out of the Devil over that. But it's
it's an important album.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is all right now we're
getting down it out too. Is now number two, Wang
number two.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
And unfortunately I do not have a definitive date because
it was a It was a release on a very
I think Pine Coast, an indie label and everything releases.
It came out in May of nineteen eighty three, and
it is the Rat Ekey, the Rat epy and.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Blazing Metals part.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
You can say it hair metal blah blah blah, noel day,
this ship's metal sweet cheater.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
All right, man, right, wow, rat'scott their almost entire catalog.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I love Rat and that's you know, I'm just being.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Real awesome, man. Yeah, I love I love Brad too.
I didn't love him enough to put it either album
on this.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
I'll good, all good, but yeah, man, right on, there
you go. That's my number food.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
All right, all right, Mike number two.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I was just about to say, sure, that's not Stephen
Pierce's sit in there.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Yeah right, No, No, I don't have any hit songs
like you and Stephen Pearcy.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
All right, well, my number two goes to the the
other King of Jersey, mister John von Job and Slippery
when Wet.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Oh wow, wow, good call good call.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well it's it's it's really really hard to get around
that album and not yet.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
It was huge. Man, it was just a phenomenon. Let's
put be honest. I mean, they totally knocked it out
of the car them with Desmond.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Oh my god, it would be hard to say they yes,
it would, it wouldn't and.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
The song and the song still stand the test of time.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
There was just you know, I mean, you know, every
song on that album is basically a hit.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
And I'd be a.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Liar and hypry if I did say I didn't like
some of it.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I do like some of those songs.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I just never I never honestly bought into it. I
never purchased any bon jovie, but they never got my money.
But I still liked a lot of the songs though,
So you have.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
To be there.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah, I guess, I guess. Man.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I was not at the Barn Joe again at that
time though, But uh.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Number two, this is off the wall that god. I
loved this album man. Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Gene Simmons side band, Easy Oh, Fire Fire. They they
totally went from you know, We're gonna, We're gonna mimic
kiss it, have the Kobuki, theak a body and write
these weird songs to be in a still practically glam band.
Man and dude, I love that album that Firefire a
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million miles away, all that stuff. Love junkie killer album
at Easier for me, number two, yep, all right, it's
number one.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Here we go, drum roll, drum roll, go far away,
number one.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
All right, Well before I get to number one. Uh,
you know.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
That's funny is all these bands everything, And I'm not
kissing his ass because I'm you know, I'm just being real.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I respect his ass.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
But our guests had bigger hits than all these bands
that I'm listening pretty much. No what I mean what
I'm listening. You guys listed bands that I'm not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know, just paying respect everything, not be two face.
I know I'm not the biggest fan, number but fully respectively.
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And it was number one, the number one pair metal
album for me personally. Came out set and now Mike's
brought this up. September twenty sixth of nineteen, one hundred
and eighty three Motley Crue Shout of the Devil. I saw,
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I saw Mottley Crew open up for Kiss on Easter
Sunday of nineteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
And eighty three, about half a mile.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
South from where I am right now in San Francisco,
and they played a couple of songs on the album
Four Months to Court was released. My favorite song on
the record is red Hot. I think it's Motley Crue
for the time being heavy metal in nineteen eighty three,
Shout in nineteen hundred and eighty three, Shout of the
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Devil was heavy fucking metal.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
It was man that double baby.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Yeah there, hair metal and all that. Just the tags,
you know, and we're playing along because you know. But yeah, man,
I absolutely adore the ship. And my favorite song, one
of many, is red Hot to they Ain't Go.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
That's the number one.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Hey, awesome, man, awesome, Mike thought you.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I thought you might have a cassette, say from rap
before they became raps.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
No no no no no no no no no no
no no. I got into rat after I got into
Mamby Proof, you know, within a year or two. But yeah, man,
I think that's uh, that's that's my number one.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
I am it's it's not a bad choice. I had
it on too.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I'm back with you. I'm gonna come and choose Pyromania
for me, awes and and as as you meant, you know,
this is the Flepper's third album, you know, coming in
eighty two, of course, you know, eight eighty three, February
eight exactly, And so I feel totally fine with using
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that as as an eighties album. And and but the
album is just so strong, it's so well produced. I
do like where it still has the feeling of high
and dry and on through the night.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
And it's a great album.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Nothing necessarily the best haircuts, but they're English, so you
know how that.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
Is a phenomenal album, fall, phenomenal performance, great vote by Joe,
Joe Elliott and Joe still still a bit of that
great guitar work that that's on High and Dry where.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
They they sort of you know, visited you know, the
a c DC camp with Modelang and and that stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And I can put that album on anytime and it
stands satiesta time, just as most.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Of the album that.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Awesome. Man. Well, you guys can probably guess my number
one out there.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Let me guess White Lion.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Wait, yes, White Lion Pride is my favorite favorite.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Beats them all.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I'm not saying that because we got mic here man,
I swear to god, I told Mike this in person.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
That album meant so much to me at that time.
I mean, with Vetos guitar playing Mike's lyrics, it just
connected to me big time. I mean, I mean, honestly,
all three of your first albums could have been in
this list for me, because I love all three.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Fight to Survive, Pride in Big Game and Main Attraction
too for that matter. But yeah, but Pride, Pride rules
them all for me. Man, just the way it is.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Man, it's a it's a it's a free world. You're
you're allowed to do it, have that, you know.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Yeah, let me hold on, take it down me. Let
me interject. Seeking Stanley is not saying this because this
gentleman is on our fucking show. When we started this
podcast October ninth of twenty twenty three, he told me
to my face that album was his number one because
we we kind of loosely were talking about the hair
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metal album.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, so I'm here to fucking give massive.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah. You can go back to all of our previous episodes,
like what was it like our tenth episode somewhere back
in there where you said that yeah, and I was
like yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Yeah, no, your love of that that this man's music
is authentic and legit.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I can't say how many hours I sat there trying
to play that week solo.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Man, you're a you're a guitar player, and you were
in a band.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
So yeah, yeah, I played that song religiously in cover
bands for decades. Yeah did I did I nail that solo?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Hold?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
No, ain't no way up like Vito man, you know,
except for uh miss mister dad there he does a
killer job.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Man, he really knows.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Man.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
But but yeah, I mean that that album was just
something special man, at a time, at a time where
I was learning to drive and drive around tow with cassettes.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
You know, it was just awesome. It was just awesome, man.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeppressive hell yeah yep yeah yeah so uh so uh
Wang he got a couple of questions you wanted to ask, Mike,
I got a couple too before before he gets out
of here.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
Yeah, I certainly do have because uh he's not too far.
He's he's only a few years older than me, so
me and him have the same DNA as far as
the era of music and everything. But my question to
Mike is, Mike, if somebody had a gun to your
head and hopefully they never do. Hopefully it's no jagg
(39:58):
E Lee moment in Las Vegas. But my question to
you is, what are your top five And I know
you said Ace is one of them, which is legit
it has Kiss on the cover.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
What are your top five Kiss albums?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Boy, here we go wow talk.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
About and of course you know I can just pull
them out of my pocket just like that.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
That's my ask.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well, yeah, no, exactly, So you know, it's it, you know,
I mean i'd go with you know, dress and now
it's now I'm really gonna reveal of how much I
know about Kiss. I you know, I you know, love
Gun Gun, Love Gun Destroyer, and I really like Unmasked.
(40:49):
I think there's some great great songs on I really
love Creatures of the Night's. Yeah, you know, it always
goes with you know, rock and rollan I or you know,
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or or Dressed to Kill you know what I mean,
I do I do like that that.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Also, you know, later on in the time, I think
that there came a lot of great songs that somehow
to me just got a little little loss because Kiss
his own, you know, way of fighting into the eighties,
without the makeup sometime, you know, just it took a
little away from from the sound they had created so uniquely.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
With with the first couple of albums.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
In New York and that great concept they had, and
and and then bit by bit.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
So it is basically the original album.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
So if you go Dress to Kill, you know, Love,
Gun Destroyer, Unmasked, Increasures of the Night, and so it
is all all make up albums.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Wow Man Unmasked is one of my favorite piss albums,
by the way, So elaborate just a little bit before
on Unmasked.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
What is it about Unmasked? It gets you.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I I I'm actually discovering on masks while I'm still
living in Spain and and and sort of preparing my
my my journey towards America. I'm now being completely Americanized
and and everything that way. So so I so that
album when that arrives, it's just it's just being completely
dissected about what the album, you know, consists of of.
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There are so many different songs from that, you know,
I mean Gene right, you know, she's so European, and
and and and.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Of course Shandy and and what does age.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Come with ac It's city Gene too.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
That's a truly it's exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I mean, it's it's it's you know, I would actually
love to hear that song remixed and and make it
a little fat or sounding. It's a little thin sounding,
but it's albums. But there are some great songwriting in
that album, you know, and it just goes and and
then of course I think that the album Cobble was brilliant.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
So do I.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Man.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I love the concept of the cartoons, man, I love
I love I love it, man, because.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
It made way for me to need to take that
thing and say I still say these thinks.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Yeah, Man, let me ask.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Them another question, So, Mike, actually I have a few
more questions. So what's your favorite Fan Halen albums? Dan
Halen album and what's your favorite ac DC album?
Speaker 1 (43:44):
If you don't mind answering that question, brother.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I don't mind answering simple questions like that. I mean
you could have answered something, you know, what, what's your
favorite Buff Dylan album?
Speaker 1 (43:55):
No, I'm not, I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Know, it's it's like, how the hell do you really
think define that? Because it has changed. I'm of course
falling in love with the first fan album that will
never nothing will ever take away from that, and for
a while you really live that. Now, when you go
back and revisit the rough years, I seem to end
(44:20):
up on fair warning a lot of times.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
It's just.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's so raw, and they're there, you know, they're in
that way.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
It's just it's there's thinking.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Less of foot man, those first four albums. I mean,
I could take any of those albums go.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
On in deserted islands.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Oh yeah, I mean I cannot get away from high
right or hell. I think that, I think that. I
I mean, I mean, first of all, I'm a I'm
all bon Scott from all the way, all the way,
all the way and high rateer hell is.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
You know, man, they just.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Made a classic. Yeah they did ye.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Speaking of kiss real quick, there's a picture floating around
for years of you veto and Paul backstage. I think
Paul has this little little number fifty three shirt on
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
So you must have toured with them on crazy nights.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Huh, Yeah, of course that was.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
That was happened there in November and November thirteen, eighty
eighty seven. That tour started up until close to Christmas,
and you know this was was it was the album
that somehow, you know, they felt was really going to
to bring.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Them further off the charge.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
And it became a little bit, unfortunately for us, a
bit of a struggle tour for them, and and they
had to.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Do a lot of adjustment and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
But still for us to get that opportunity, you know,
we can never look back and not saying what a
great honor was and and and.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
How big it just was.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
From one day playing a club and then then two
days later going out in Jackson, Mississippi, being the first
night of the.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
Tour and and you know, just having a great run
with him.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yeah, that's awesome, man, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
I actually heard some stuff and they were running a
lot of tracks on that tour with.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
Those were the days.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Those were the days before we even started looking at that,
you know, I mean, oh, it's so hard to go
back and look at.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
What was you know, like we've always wanted to was
just going out.
Speaker 10 (46:50):
And using our fifty minutes to the max and just
seeing we could get if we could get Wideline across
the stage and out into the audience and see you know,
you know, read the benefits from that, and eventually, with time,
it proved that that tour was was what we needed
and it led us Uh Joony a couple of months
(47:11):
after we finished with Kiss Too to join Aerosmith, and
now it was big time.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Wow, cool cool, Hey, I mean I got to ask
you too, being from Denmark, any any association did you
ever know, like King Diamond and fake guys.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, I know, I know, And yeah, of course we
come from from from from.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
The little town of Copenhagen, things like that.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
It would be later on, we would we would sort
of be visiting each other.
Speaker 5 (47:41):
Later on on somewhere on the road.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Actually many times, a couple of times when they played
a little more with personal Fate and we were rehearsing downstairs,
I got to say say to hi them and and
these days, you know, Michael Danner, the original GUITARPLA, has
a record store in Copenhagen that you know, if you're
really into Vinchance vinyl and stuff like that, you go
(48:04):
there and most people.
Speaker 5 (48:06):
Come to call me hate and go to there.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
So yeah, that's awesome, man, that's awesome. I got one
more question for you, and I want to know what
did you think or were you aware of, because when
when I saw this on TV.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
My jaw dropped.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
I was just like, oh my god, no way, he's
not singing this song. The whole American idol thing when
that kid got up there and sang broken Heart.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Yeah? No, yeah, I would. Yeah, it's you know, it's
just one. It's just one of those things.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
And you know, I was called up, you know, I
was in Europa that time, and I was called up
by a journalist because I guess Steven Tyler had made
a comment that he didn't think that was a right
song for him to sing, and then they wanted some
sort of controversial.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
Comment, you know, etcetera, et cetera. But you know, when
you look back at those kind of things, you're just honored.
You just honored, you know. I mean, he chose, he
chose Broken Heart.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I mean, if he had chosen Wade, he would probably
had had more feedback.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
From from uh, from from from.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
From Stephen Tyler because obviously, you know, I remember the
first night we started with with Aerosmith. H I ran
in to Stephen Tyland the hallway and the first thing
he did to me was wait, so you know that
song had landed with him. So I mean, you know,
(49:40):
you know, how things.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Are, you know, but still that's so cool, man, because
I just remember seeing that my jaw dropping.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
I turned to my wife and I was like, this
is back when me and my wife would sit there
and watch American I don't watch it no more. I
was just like, oh my god, that's White Life. It's
the single White Lion song and Broken Heart.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
It was like, really really cool, the main attraction version.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Yeah, yeah, very cool man.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
Yeah, very good guys.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
Yeah man, So Wane, you got anything else from Mike? Mike,
what are you doing? What are you doing now? What
are you guys coming up?
Speaker 5 (50:16):
Well, I mean we're we're pretty close to.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Releasing like the last of the tril you know, the
trio completing the trilogy, Volume three of Mike Trams Songs
of White Line where we recorded the old.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
Songs yea, and.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
The Volume three is I think it's gonna take people
by surprise.
Speaker 5 (50:35):
We've done some some.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Done some great things to some of the fight to
survive songs that, you know, bringing them into the future
but still keeping them as original as possible and also
kind of like, in lack of better words, that is
how my trans White Lion sounds. In twenty twenty five
and made it to the future. So we got that
(50:58):
album coming off pretty soon. The four singles should probably
hit two to three weeks, four weeks maybe with a
new video and things like that, and we'll be torn,
you know, for the rest of the year in and
out of the US, you know, jumping around and and
and just continuine awesome.
Speaker 6 (51:16):
Man.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Great, So that's so cool, man. I can't wait to
see you again.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
Man, I'll be at it. You got it.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
I will be there.
Speaker 5 (51:24):
Thanks for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Thanks for the opportunity to risk revisiting it a time
that actually meant a lot to me.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Oh, I'm sure it does.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Man.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
You lived it, dude, it's live it.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
That is so awesome, man, I live to tell Yeah.
We so appreciate you doing this and joining us.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Man, really it was. It was awesome man. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
Thank you, Tim, Thank you Bill.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yep, right on at one more question. One more question. No,
I have like one hundred courses.
Speaker 6 (51:54):
I don't get to talk to people that have two
top ten singles, a double platinum. I'm just being real, man.
So if you don't mind, give me a couple of
words about what's your opinion about the band that has
become by far the biggest heavy metal band on the planet, Metallica.
(52:14):
And then the second question and closing, if you don't mind,
who has a better discography Judas Briest or Iron Made Fit.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
Oh wow wow?
Speaker 5 (52:28):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
I saw Metallica in nineteen eighty three and Queen's Boulevard
at my manager's all the club called Lamore's East, which
was in Queen's Boulevard. In the Queen's they were opening
up for Ravens, so I already I already saw them
and got into the Metallica world from that time. When
(52:54):
when Metallica came around on a tour Wind Wasp, Metallic
and Armoured Shane, they used widelines rehearsal room as a
dressing room, and when they played Lemorris in Brooklyn and
I started, I met Loss for the first time and
we started understanding that we both were Danes. And and
(53:14):
I've seen Metallica a hundred times since in a Loss
have always invited me and stuff like that. I mean,
when you get to the point that they delivered a
phenomenal album with a black album following, you know, of
course injustice for all the massive puppets.
Speaker 8 (53:34):
Uh, they had some very smart, powerful people that were
able to really guide the band to become what it is.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
And one thing that I've noticed for every decade, Metallica
have managed to to to get the new a new
audience while they're still were holding on to the old ones.
So they're they're still cool for the young kids that
up coming in, so they're they're not just do they
bring the old generation with them, they also add another generation.
(54:07):
And that's that's just phenomenal that they've been able to
to do that. And and you know, what can you
say to that? I mean, it's just you know, I mean,
we know this.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
What's your favorite Metallic album?
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Massive Puppets and to and to answer your last.
Speaker 6 (54:28):
Question, yeah, I ad I won't ask you any more questions.
Speaker 5 (54:32):
I am mag by far. I don't I don't think
Jude just Priests.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Have done a good album since uh, what's what's another
thing coming there?
Speaker 5 (54:41):
What was the album called? Exactly? You know that that's
where Priests ended right there?
Speaker 2 (54:49):
For me, but for Maiden have just you know, I mean,
besides the two albums without with without Bruce Dickinson. But
I'm you know, it's not that I'm I'm massive MA
fan but I'm just really I just love once they
hailed onto the concept of what that band was and
the themes and stuff like that, all the different involvements
(55:10):
and stuff like that, and today they're just phenomenal live
band and they've still got a singer that's that that
are able to lift the band. And of course I
should really be kissing his feet because without without Dickinson,
that is the sound of Maiden.
Speaker 4 (55:24):
You know, thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Thank you so much. Mine appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (55:32):
All right, everybody, plice you guys. I will be talking
to you whenever I need to promote something.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Hell yeh man, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (55:41):
I've got it.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
Guys, You're welcome anytime.
Speaker 5 (55:43):
You know that, and you all right.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
Well that concludes another episode of The Thinking Way, so
we'll see it next time.
Speaker 5 (55:54):
Damn think aren't in production, Bail
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