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January 29, 2025 • 73 mins
On today episode we got Johnny Vogan joining us to break down Motley Vrue album Too Fast For Love.Hosted by: Syncin' Stanley & Bill WangGuest: Johnny Vogan
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Fellas, it was sounding great, but I could have used
a little more cow bell.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
So let's take it again. More cow bell.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Guess what.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I got a fever and the only prescription is more
cow bell. I'm telling you, fellas, you're gonna want that
cow bell from the track.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
I can sadly hear people in listen if time for
another episode of the Thinking Why Show. Hey Wang, once

(01:23):
you introduce our special guest.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Hey Sinking, it's down a mob, brother man.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, you know, our special guest this evening is somebody
that's pretty much a fucking legend on the Internet, and
somebody that me and Sin constantly have known and and
loved quite frankly over a decade. And yeah, man, it's
just an honor. He's our third guest. We've only had

(01:52):
two other guests, and tonight is Tonight is the fortieth
episode of.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
The second Wang Hell.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah Vogan on our show. So Johnny Vogan, what's up?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
My brother bear?

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Cheers, brothers.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
I'm known in some circles as the handsomest podcast guest
of all time, so I'm glad to be here with you.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Guys.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
I've been following your show, and obviously we all have
known each other for many, many years.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
So it's great to be here with you guys. I'm
I'm honored and.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
Flattered Johnny Johnny back in the day, man, I gotta
tell you this, dude. When I first got on to
you know, the Rock and Metal Combat Facebook page, that
was the first group I ever joined, And you were
the first person that actually interacted and talked to me.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Yeah, yeah, those are those are great times.

Speaker 7 (02:52):
And we talked about White Lion Man and and here
was Johnny talking about White Lion Man, just throwing up
all these screenshots veto in the Waight video, and I'm thinking,
how's this guy doing this?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
This is awesome because I didn't know how to.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
Do ship back man, man, and I didn't know how
to take a screenshot. I didn't know how to do
none of that stuff. And man, that was really cool,
Johnny Man. I gotta I gotta thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Man. It was really cool man.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
You Yeah, it was great, bro. Those were great days, brother,
it was great. We all met each other and connected.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
For the love of music. Man. Hell yeah yeah, buddy Man.
So wang Man, what are you doing there? Buddy? All right?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
No, I'm not all right, Megga. I got I got
issues with my fucking earbuds. But it's gonna be all good, brother.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
That's all good. Bro. Hey man, We're all about issues,
aren't we.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
You know what we really are.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
But anyways, but we adapt and overcome.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Man, you said, Johnny Vogan, what'd you say? Brothers?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I was just telling him, you know how we met,
you know, back in the day, you know.

Speaker 7 (03:59):
And he was first person, the actual first person I
interacted with online in Facebook.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Land when I joined.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Get It Rum.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, man, but but no, for real, that's the truth. Man.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Oh is that right?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah? Man? When I joined the group, I was like,
what is this? What is this? I didn't know nothing
about these groups and how to talk to each other,
you know. I I didn't know the etiquette nothing. Man.
I didn't even know how to make a screenshot. I
didn't know how to post a video or nothing.

Speaker 7 (04:32):
But boy, but boy, I caught off quick.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah that's an understatement, nigga.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Look at us now, look at me now? Yeah. So wang, man,
you wanna wanna talk about what album we're gonna review?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Absolutely, man, We're going to review an album that came
out on It's a very amazing I mean, just a
time piece in hard rock heavy metal history came out
November tenth of nineteen eighty one on Leather Records. Nine
hundred records were produced, and then, of course most of

(05:13):
the world knows it by the August twentieth, nineteen eighty
two Electra Records released remixed by Roy Thomas Baker. Stick
to Your Guns was on the eighty one Leather Records,
not on the Electra eighty two too. Fest for Love
produced by the band, And like I said, not to
repeat myself, but Roy Thomas Baker had a lot to

(05:37):
do with I guess there was a couple songs that
were little, you know, touched in whatever and what not
and remixed and re recorded or whatever. And shockingly the
record went to number seventy seven on the Billboard two hundred,
which you'd think, oh, not so much. But it has
reached platinum status and it did back then.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Who knows what it's what it is.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Up to now, but uh, some of the things that
were on November tenth of nineteen eighty one, the number
one movie in the United States of America. All three
of our are us Meet Us. Johnny Bogan is in
New York, I'm in San Francisco, but uh, Sinka, Stanley's
in Florida, So we got the trifecta.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, figure, But you know, the number one movie in
America was Time Band.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's I don't know shit about that. Maybe you guys do.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh that movie.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
I really don't it.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Weird people, man, they travel through time. It was pretty cheap.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I have no idea about that.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
The number one song in America on the Hot one hundred, well,
a song called Private Eyes by the band the amazing
band Holman Oates.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
That's a classic.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, fuck the number one.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
The number one album on the Billboard two hundred was
a little band called the Rolling Stones and an album
called Tattoo.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
You Hell Yeah, my favorite Stones.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Album, Yes, sir, and we're gonna do that coming up.
But we just did some Girls and we loved that
episode and everything. The number one TV show again, we
just did an episode that hasn't been released yet.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
That's coming up.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Wait, I got it, I got it, I got it
this time.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Dallas, right, yes, Dallas, Dallas, November nineteen eighty one, Dallas,
And I know singing Stanley in closing with my little
intro here singing Stanley.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
He really isn't into sports.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I know my negga, Johnny Vogan is just addicted to.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Sports as I am.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
So uh go.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Johnny Vogan, my brother.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Uh, I mean, maybe it's wrong for me. Do you
know who won the championships of all four major.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Sports teams in nineteen eighty one?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Forty nine ers?

Speaker 6 (07:59):
Okay, right, I want to say eighty one must have
been the Celtics.

Speaker 8 (08:09):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Baseball Yankees.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Now but close. Yankees played the Dodgers in the World Series.
Dodgers won, but close.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Keep going d hockey and hockey.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
I'm gonna say Edmonton.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
No, your New York Islanders.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Wow, that's yeah. I should have known that because that
doesn't happen very often, right.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Right, right, right right?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know so so much other shit happened in the
nineteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
One and profit podcast. I will be spitting up facts.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
Beats hell yeah man, so so yeah, let's discuss.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Hey, Johnny, want you tell us how you got into
Mortley Crew.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Well, when I was about I want to say, nineteen
eighty seven eighty eight, I had a babysitter who constantly
just watched MTV. She was hot as fuck, she smoked
SIGs and just watched MTV the whole time she was

(09:22):
at my house, and so that's what I did. And
I remember the video Girls, Girls, Girls.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
It was a life changing experience for me.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
And that was the first cassette tape I ever took
my own money and went to Ames and went to
Ames and I bought the Girls Girls Girls tape and
I just fell in love with Motley Crue, the whole image.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
I love those tunes. Those guys were so cool. And
I went back and just bought the whole catalog and
I've been a huge Crew fan.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
That's an understatement.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Well, my opinion is is severely lessened throughout the the
last four or five years of life.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
But but the old, but the old UH Motley Crue spirit,
that that that they don't in Creed, that they don't.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
Really live by, and I wonder if they ever actually did.
There was probably a short.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Period of time, but you know, I love that ethos
that they all brought, you know, I had.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
And it was also the first shirt, the first UH
band shirt I ever ever bought.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
There's a great picture I have of myself we about
eight years old, with the Alistair Fiend shirt Chuck Taylor's.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I will go put that right up on the screen down.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I've been been a big Crew
fan for a.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Long long time.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
That's awesome, man, Wang, when did you get into the Crew?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I I probably loved that picture of this motherfucker more
than I should. I love it with his ginger hair.
He's sitting on some rock and like a you know,
had something like, uh, I don't have something through school
and a theater paint.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Shirt, right, you know it's a it's an alistair fiend shirt, okay,
bull mascot.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, but yeah, man, I'm gonna be real here. So
there's a you know, honestly, I was there from the beginning,
but I never owned the Leather Records issue. I'm not
gonna sit here and lie like a little jackallass pitch now.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
It's price Not many own that record. It's pricey. I'm
trying to get my hands on it still.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Johnny Poker, I'm talking like back then, Okay, So yeah.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Like you probably couldn't get a hold of it unless
you lived out there, right.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, I don't know about that. But here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I remember being in the back of my friend's car.
We're traveling some club and this guy puts in a
It wasn't, you know, like an official cassette.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
It was a TDK.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I don't know, if you're kind, Yeah, yeah, yeah, these
blank tape. It's a Homeboy had.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
The No, it wasn't Chubby, No, no, it was no
good good good Chevy. Chubby is basically got on Earth.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
But anyway, was we were going to this club and
Homeboy had a TDK, so he had obviously had the
Leather Records record and made his own little cassette. So
long story short, this is probably if I'm being honest,
I would probably say like February of nineteen eighty two, Okay,
February of eighty two, So we're we're traveling to this thing,

(12:56):
and all of a sudden, he pops it in, all
of a sudden goes begin the beginning riff of Live Wires,
like you know, as I it changed everything, and yeah,
because that opened up the eighty one Leather Records version.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
But yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
That's when I heard that for the first time. And
then the album came out, you know, the August of
eighty two, and I probably got it like within a
month after that, and then of course I saw technically speaking,
technically speaking, I saw this tour even though it was

(13:36):
April third of nineteen eighty three, And yes they played
a couple Shout Out the Devil songs and everything, but
it was four months before.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Shout Out the Devil came out.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
But yeah, so I have a very, very very long
history of Motley Crew, you know, even though Johnny Vogan's
a lot younger than us, that's not that many years
apart as far as this fair you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
And that eighty three they that was US Fest, that
was the US Fest.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they were playing those songs at US.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Fest, yep, exactly, Brother and and and I and I.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Always liked that.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
And Stanley have done the Kiss Creatures the Night. At
the end of the Molly Cruz set, before Kiss came
on to do their Creatures of the Night set, Vince
Neil went up the mic and said, see scream, see
you walk the US Festival.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You know, and it was so fucking magical and everything.
So yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
See constantly there's my beginning analysis of Moley Crew.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
Well, real quick, I actually got into him now. I
know that I know that Shouted the Devil was already
out because my buddy had the poster on the door.
But you got to realize where I lived. I did
not have MTV. I did not I have any type
of video television whatsoever. I lived twenty miles each way

(15:07):
from a city to where I could get a record.
I lived out in the boondocks of Florida, man, and
so we relied on other kids at school for you.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Know, turning us onto stuff and letting.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
Us borrow tapes and whatnot. But so shouting the devil
was already out. But the first thing I heard from
Crewe was Too Fast for Love. Because my buddy, who
played guitar and taught me how to play guitar, would
sit in his bedroom and play on with the show,
you know. He he would play that riff. So I

(15:41):
was like, dude, what is that? That's awesome met So
he gave me the tape, you know, and I'm you know,
back then, I recorded it, and that was the first
Motley Crew album I had on tape, was Too Fast
for Love, and it was the electric version. I didn't
hear Coasting Town and the other one, uh, stick to

(16:02):
your guns. I didn't hear that to many years later.
So obviously it wasn't the leather record version that I
listened to, so, but.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, that's when I got into them, man, and I.

Speaker 7 (16:12):
Got into them heavy man, freaking those first two albums
those that's metal, dude, that's still metal man.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
That and but after that, certainly show the Doubles and
yeah there, yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
Man, I call I still call too fast for love
metal man, it's it's it's it's metal, it's.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Any other record that came out after Shoutouts Double.

Speaker 7 (16:39):
I agree with you there, yeh yeah, absolutely, show absolutely,
So why don't we go ahead and get into this man?
Why don't we get into track number one? Johnny, why
don't you take track number one? You're our guest man,
Why don't you go ahead and lead us off with
live Wire?

Speaker 3 (16:58):
All right?

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Got my vinyl here, pretty good lecture, of course, it's
the electric version, pretty good shape though, still got a
nice insert here, still with it.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Check this baby out.

Speaker 7 (17:11):
Oh man, you're just bringing back the memories, dude.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
I mean, that's one of the things you love about
collecting vinyls. You get these little treasures in there. But
live Wire is an awesome track and it's a great opener.
I mean, it doesn't get much better the uh, the
leather version compared to the lecture version, there's a little

(17:36):
bit of little differences. The the leather version, you could
actually hear like some bottles and cans rattling around, like
during some of the breaks, which is yes, if you
listen to the level version, you could hear cans and
bottles like in the background. I don't know if it's
by design kind of sounds yeah, but I actually prefer this.

(18:01):
And there's also a great version of it on the
Decade of Decadence album.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
It's really really good.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
But I think it's an awesome, awesome track, and the
video they made for it, it's just so fucking cool.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
Where nick gets lit on fire.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
It's it's definitely one of their standout tracks. And it's
got a lot of punk rock qualities.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
To it too.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
You know, you got that punk sensibility that they had,
like Nicky especially had, you know, so big fan of
Live Wire.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
To take it next, Waang, go ahead, take it man.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
I mean, so I'm alive tonight out on the streets again.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Those are the first words. I mean, let's be real people.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Those are the first words I ever heard from Molly
krue And.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
And like I said previously, a friend played it in
his car.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
And and let's not ignore one fuck that double bass.
There wasn't a lot of double bass back then.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Let's be real people, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
As the song is fucking fabulous, and uh it brings
me back to a good place. And five out of
five topsicks.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
Hell yeah man, live wire, Man, Oh god, dude, so
fucking amazing.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Man.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
That has stun those steady, double bassed drums. Man, you
didn't hear much of that back then, and that that
that really stuck.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Out, man.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
And and and to see to see the videos with
Tommy Lee twirling his sticks. Man, he brought that real
showmanship to play in drums.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know that so.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
Many uh so many drummers and posers ascended to I
guess you would say.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
But man, I love it. Man.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
It's a perfect song, heavy, no filler, That slow part
is awesome.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
You know. And then Tommy Lee's that that fucking cow bell.
I gotta love the.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh man, I love that ship.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Oh man.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
And and they never sounded like this again, man, yeah, man,
live wire and just.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Just the words, just just the I'm hot, young and
running free, a little bit better than we used to be.
I mean, that is it just brings a smile. It
brings a smile to your face, you.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
Know this day, yeah, man, because I mean it's all
about being young and being in a band and just
being out there.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
I mean, you know, I'm not going to sit here
and brag like I was any rock star. I was
no rock star, man, But but I did play in
a lot of bands.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
I played out, you know, and I did a lot
of decade and stuff with my buddies, playing out and
bands all over Florida.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
So yeah, man, that's that whole thing. Man, That's that's awesome. Man.
You know when you're in a band, man, it's it's
like you're a band of pirates. Man, You're like gang members.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
You know, nobody's running free today anymore. That ain't just
done social media. No, nobody's out there running free.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
It's no, it is You're right, man, rock is dead.
I think I kind of I'm kind of starting to
think Gene Simmons is right.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Music.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
You know, it's not rock is dead. It's music is dead.
It's not specifically rock. Every genre is dead.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
Well, it's it's it's just because nowadays it's disposable. You know, nobody,
you know, nobody goes and searches for it like we
had to. Man, you know when Motley Crue came out,
you had to go track down their album, you know,
so and get that stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
But all right, moving on to track number two. Come
on and Dance, Johnny, go ahead, take come on and dance.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
A lot of people people don't like this song. I
love it. I think it's great, and it's got some
really really great lyrics. I got my I got my
lyrics sheet out here too that I'm looking at, and
it's really great. Watcher Scream, Watchers, suck you Clean, Come
on and Dance. I mean that's great. That's just great.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I mean, is it's like full service he was he.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Was those first years. I mean he was really writing
some great lyrics and great songs, and this is one
of them. And it's and it's just it's this is
definitely one of those songs that we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
This isn't a metal song. It's just a straight, you
know what I mean, cool rock and roll song. I
think it's fun. I like the chorus, it's catchy. You know,
a lot of people give it ship, but I'm I'm
a huge fan. I'm a huge fan, and and it's
just what makes this album so eccentric, you know what
I mean. There's just so many different ways, different different things,

(23:00):
you know, different variables, different types of songs.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
And I think it's great. It's it's great, you know,
changes the vibe up after Live Wire. I think it's
an awesome, awesome second track.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Oh man, I love this. Man how Johnny just loves
this ship? Man?

Speaker 5 (23:15):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I do.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I do too, Man, I love that.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
You'll say, if you would Saint's Los Angeles, I won't
be so happy.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Let me tell you, yes, I love but this ship
I love.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
Oh yeah, man, Come on and dance. Such a killer,
heavy riff. There's that cow bell again, perfectly placed after
the verses. Killer guitar solo with cow bell again, and
that that that high note, that high screen that bits
nails at the end is so awesome.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Man, Yeah, I love this.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
So I'm right with you, Johnny, Man, I love I
love Come On and dance. I don't I don't understand
the eight. I don't understand it. Wang, what do you
think of? Come on and dance?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know what that's cool.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I'll give it three and five passics. But the thing
I I've got JV was talking about a lick and
I got a different lick. I loved its slick. But
she's cool and clean with a pepsi. She with a
pepsi sheene. I mean, what the fuck? That's awesome? Yeah, man,

(24:19):
it's a cool song.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Hey man, three and four chops.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Hell yeah man, all right, track number three.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
I got a question for.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
You, guys.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
What what's that? What's electric love like Sandra D? Give
me the wrong I don't know that. I've never got.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
The reference Sandra D. What is it electric?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
When she's hot? Well, damn, she's hot. Electric love like
Sandra D.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I didn't dive into enough to But but that is
a mystery.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
That is a mystery, Johnny.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
I've dove before. I've never figured it out.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
I don't I don't get it either, man. The only
Sandra D. What did they talk about like Sandra D
from Greece?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
I mean, I know Sandra D was like some girl
teen idol, right.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
But that has something to do with that brother, man.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah, I don't. I don't get that either.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Sect Stanley figured to see it out.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
But but yeah, Johnny, go ahead take number three, Public number.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
One, Public Enemy number one. I think I pick picks
the temple up a little bit after come On and Dance,
kind of like.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
A little bit of a lull for me. Definitely one
of my not a top tier act for me on
this album. Not a bad track, like if you put
this album on Saints the Los Angeles or I'm a
fan of New Tattoo but Saints the Los Angeles or
Generation Swine. It's the best song on the album. But

(26:15):
this album of great material like the song, but uh,
you know, down towards the bottom, it's you know, I
get the more of the whole Nikki rebellious. You know
they're Public Enemy number one. Everyone's out to get them.
You know, they're the bad boys. Good decent track, good track,
but for.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Me, uh, probably one of the my least favorites on
the album.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
That all right, Wang, what's your thoughts on Pubblis's Enemy
number one?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
My thoughts on Public Enemy number one? You know, and
I could keep saying this throughout the review. Mickars Micvars
and his ross form and his most awesome raw less
produced and everything.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
So I ain't gonna shit on it? Is it?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
You know?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Five out of five Top six? No, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
It's just a reoccurring theme with Mick Mars back then. Man,
his licks are off the charts.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
And I love this shit.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Uh you know, I haven't been telling you.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Basically all the songs were written by Nicky six, with
a couple exceptions Nick Vince Neil and the guy from
London something Lizzie Gray or whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
As a matter of fact, Lizzie Gray co wrote this
song whatever.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
But you know I'm gonna give the song a four
to five top sicks.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Hell yeah, man, public Enemy number one. I freaking love it, dude.
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
I love this album from start to finish. Man, it's
just a it's just a perfect I just love it, man,
just the nostalgia of it, the little that cool little
miletic melodic guitar, a theme that Mick does in this song.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
It's awesome, man, do you know how it feels to
be one? In hell?

Speaker 9 (28:08):
That's fucking great.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Man. I love.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Cat saying I love it.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
I wish I could, man, but I can't great solo
from Mick Mars Just like you said, Wang, I don't
get I do not get the hate for Mick Mah's
guitar playing. I never understood it, man. I was like
those first two albums. Shoot, I mean even the other

(28:37):
albums that I don't like, he played great, exactly, exactly memorable,
memorable guitar solos that you could freaking hum.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I mean, no, he's not record what's that? What's that? Joy?

Speaker 6 (28:58):
He fucking shreds on this record. There's talk about the unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Oh yeah, we haven't even gotten started yet on some
of his great solos, man, I mean, holy shit, dude, it's.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
It's just amazing.

Speaker 7 (29:10):
And then there's that cal belly can't at the end
of that, Tommy Lee just flapping that thing, theater.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Cock Tommy.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
I fucking love it, man, all right.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Number four Merry Go Round and Round, Johnny, I'm a fan,
like I don't.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
I don't have an album I dislike, but I'll stick
with the Public Enemy vibe, but which.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
There's too many Merry grounds.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
At one point in the chorus, we're going around and
round and round too many times.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Just I like the song. The structure of the song
is good. I think, you know, if if they had uh,
this is one of those.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Ones where I feel like, uh, not having a strong producer,
Like there's songs that helps on this record, like with
the Raw Neet, this is one where they.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Could have probably.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
You know, structured a little bit better, made it a
little bit better than it is.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
You know.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
I love the album as a whole, it's just you
know the messiness of it, like now, like when you're
listening to it as a whole, I'll take Mary Ground
as it is, but like I guess as a song,
they probably could have cleaned it up a little bit,
paired debt, chorus down a little bit, maybe not so
many Merry Grounds.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
But it's in the Dirt, and it's on the Dirt.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Soundtrack Mine, I mean, they did feature it in the Dirt,
I think.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
I think it's been a while so I've seen that
movie when it came out. I did watch it quite
a bit. But I think it's when Nicky, one of
Nicky's he's.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Going through some rehab drugs, or Vince's crashed or something
something bad happens and they played Merry Ground and they
stuck it on the Vinyl for the Dirt, which I
have as well. But yeah, I mean bottom tier on
the album, but still a good song.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
That's my take on me.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Wait way, what's your thoughts man?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well, I have something to say about that.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
But a couple of things that came out in nineteen
eighty one, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Which I like to add.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
January twentieth, nineteen eighty one, I RAN releases the fifty
two Americans that were hostage, and it's minutes after Ronald
Reagan was sworn in as the fourtieth president.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
They were released on January twenty.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
First, the first Dolorean automobile rolls off the production line
in Dunberry, Ireland.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
What's that?

Speaker 5 (31:40):
That's iconic? The DeLorean? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, it fucking is. On March thirtieth, the attemptus assassination
of Ronald Reagan outside a Washington, DC hotel by John
hank Leet Junior. And last, until I continue on with
this little fact check. On April eleventh, nineteen eighty one,
Eddy Dan Haylan married Valerie personality.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
So all right, so may over Soul. Yeah, you know,
Mary go round? You know the legend Johnny Bogan's pretty much.
I can't really add anything.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Home Boy just.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Said it's it's it's perfection.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's a pretty simple song, yet it sounds original, you know,
it sounds original. I love Rick uh and I can
keep repeating myself, but I love Big Marcus Riffage, this
raw punkish, uh metal sort of vibe that that that
that that that that that that that that that that

(32:41):
that It's just so it's like there's nothing else like it,
you know. And I love the solo. It's so ra
and everything. I get this song four to five tuxas hell.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
Yeah, man, I'm about to repeat wang man. I just
I just love that guitar ring troupe man, the way
the way uh Mars picks it. Man, It's just it's
it's just so awesome, dude. And another great solo. Yeah,
the chorus gets a little repetitive.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
But you know what this song is missing. You know
what this song is missing, don't you, Johnny?

Speaker 5 (33:14):
You know, yeah, it's missing that cow bell.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Man, I'm telling you, I'm like, what the Tommy, what
the fuck? But But I love the I love.

Speaker 7 (33:23):
The little soft ending that Vince does. You know I'm
coming home babe? You know that that's cool?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Man? Yeah, I love I love Merry, go round around, man,
I don't give it no hate, all right man?

Speaker 7 (33:37):
Number five, Johnny, why don't you take us to the top,
Johnny oh Man?

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Now this is this is if I was making top
ten Motley Cruse songs of all I think I've done
that at some point in time on another show, but
I don't remember what they were.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
But uh, this would definitely be high on that list.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
It's actually, in my opinion, onion genius. I mean it's genius.
You don't hear a song ever that changes tempo like
this song does. I mean, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
It's unbelievable. I actually this song is on my like
workout rotation. Like I listened to this song probably four
or five times a week. Never get sick of it,
never get sick of it.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Always you know, gets me fired up. The lyrics are great,
but that timing, that timing, it's unbelievable. And in the lyrics,
you know, in a black hearted alley fight, I'm screaming,
take me to the heights tonight. I mean, he really really.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
Hit a grand slam on the first two albums with
his lyrics, I mean they are unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
And this song I.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Mean it's it's great. It's just great.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
And I think like a lot of people should on
Motley Crew, and they've done a lot to deserve that,
believe me, because I shouldn't a lot of their ship too.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
But but this freaking song, I mean, stuff like this
is genius, Like and I love Rat. You'll you'll never
hear and and and and I'm not even gonna get
into that because I have my own thoughts and and
it changes, but you'll never hear a Rat song that
changes temple and timing like this ever.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
So I mean, I just big, big fan masterpiece song.
So you guys think it.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Hell yeah, man, take me to the top. It's like
it's like a cool anthem song to me, you know.

Speaker 7 (35:38):
And I just love Mick mars is his like harmonics
in it when they do that ding ding and didn'dn't
you know what I'm talking about and they all getting
the line on stage and kind of point their guitars
that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Man. It was just it was just so awesome man.

Speaker 7 (35:53):
And you know, another killer killer guitar solo. You know,
no cow bell needed, you know, this song is just
it's just awesome, man, Wang, what do you think would
take me to the top.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I think the I mean it's the fucking sike, A
killer guitar, riff, catchy chorus, It's a killer song. It's
one of my favorites. I'm gonna give this ship.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
By five tough tis.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
Hell yeah, man, awesome, all right, man, we're about halfway
through this sucker man, let's uh keep it going.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
It number six, Piece of Your Action, Johnny.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
Once again, once again we roll into one of the
all time great Motley Cruz songs, and this is where
it gets really metal and awesome. I mean, this song's awesome.
The lyrics are awesome, but Mick really shines it here.
I mean, the solo on this track is unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
I mean it's.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
Melodic, it's shredding at the same time. It's a great
So this is one of mixed best solos right here ever,
I mean, won't be topped.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Huge fan and.

Speaker 10 (37:08):
In everybody who who knows somewhat of Motley Cruz knows
Piece of Your Action Big on FM radio, on classic
rock radio.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Still to this day, it's a staple. You know, it's it's.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
One of their defining tracks, you know, in my opinion,
you know, if you're a true music fan, like not
a girls girls girls, like not a you know some
of their other songs that were more poppy. This is
really like when when they hit it right out of
the wheelhouse and everything was perfect. You know, this was
them hitting it perfect. You know, just great track, big fan.

(37:49):
What do you guys got?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Wait, go ahead, take it.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
At your action, your action.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I owe his posts. I've been both been.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Scott a mere credit on this too, by the way,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
And I keep forgetting to tell you who rookie song.
But you know I have a very simplistic note here.
I fucking love this ship five out of five chop sticks.
It's slamming, it's heavy, it's badass.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
And uh yeah man.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
And another thing that happened in nineteen eighty one, So
I left off with Eddie van Halen maryon Vallery Curtin
La on April eleventh, I did. On May thirteenth of
nineteen eighty one, Pope John Paul the Second had an
assassination at tip on his life as he entered Saint

(38:41):
Peter's Square and Vatican City, and everybody remembers post this.
There's a thing called the pulp a bil that was
invented right after this. Yes, yeah, and one more thing
until the next batch of facts. On Joel seventh of
nineteen eighty one, Ronald Reagan nominates the first woman ever

(39:07):
to the Supreme Court and her name their Honorable Sandra
Day O'Connor, who unfortunately passed away on December one of
twenty twenty three. But we all respect and you know,
big ups. So yeah, oh and way more. On July
ninth of nineteen eighty one, Donkey Kong was released, and

(39:32):
everybody knows. Yeah, and everybody knows Seeing Staley was a
really big Donkey Kong fan.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Dude. I love Donky Kong, dude. I actually got a picture.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
I actually got a picture when I was like that,
when I was like Johnny's age with his Motley.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Creature I had. I had a Donkey Kong sert.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
I'm fucking fixing this shit up and I just randomly
and I just hit that up and.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Now you're making it up. But it's but it's so true, man.
I used to play bald Gong all the time.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Many wow.

Speaker 7 (40:07):
But piece of your action, man, Oh dude, what a great, heavy, chunky,
mid tempo riff.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I freaking love it.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
Man, those Mars harmonics were perfectly placed. And one thing too,
I gotta say about this album. Man, you can hear
everything crystal clear, you can hear Nikki's bass man, and
there's that killing a part in the solo where you
can hear all the little bass pauses.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
And stuff, and man, and the different tempos in there.
It's just awesome.

Speaker 7 (40:36):
Man, they were so creative back then. Again, no cow bell,
but I love the double time at the end. Man,
freaking piece of your action. Man, what a freaking classic, man, Yeah, yeah,
all right, man, all right, we're gonna move on to

(40:59):
the track number seven.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Story Eyes.

Speaker 7 (41:05):
Oh Johnny, I I I know, I know Johnny loves Johnny.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Go ahead and tell us how much you love Storry Eyes.

Speaker 7 (41:12):
Well, we've had this conversation online and you you okay?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Right on.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Starry Eyes is my all time favorite Motley crusong.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
Wow, we've had this conversation ahead.

Speaker 6 (41:28):
And it goes into uh, like just what just following
Piece of your Action. It's almost like it's almost like
one song. The guitar chunk just continues, like the temple
doesn't change that much when they go into the chunky
guitar Storry Eyes and and I love it, And it's

(41:51):
a very similar style of song the Piece of Your Action.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
I just like for whatever reason, I like the lyrics.
I like the chorus a little bit better. Okay child,
you had to take the pain from a man in
the streets. Uh, you gotta let me in needed a friend,
even just for one night. And the way.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
The song structures the lead is so similar to Piece
of Your Action, but I think it's better. I think,
uh mix, this is to me mix greatest, greatest guitar
work on a Crew song. And for whatever reason, this
song just just hit It always just hits me.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
It's my favorite Mottley Crue song. It's heavy, but it's
beautiful at the same time. I love it.

Speaker 6 (42:41):
I love it and uh it is definitely anytime I
make a list, it always ends up as like my
all time favorite Crew song. It is I believe the
reason for the remix of the album because if you
go on YouTube and and and the leather version of
the album, it's horrible.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Oh really, it's absolutely terrible. To me. I can't even
listen to it. The production is so bad. It's it's
not even like the same song. It doesn't sound good
at all. And I think it was probably a big
reason to me.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
It's the song that has the most difference between the
two versions, and some of them are you know, better
for worse, but this one is definitely whether it's for
better for worse, the most different between the leather and
the electra version with Starry Eyes.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Wow, I'm gonna have to check this leather version out.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Yeah, it's all on YouTube. You could just use YouTube
and it's it's all there.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:46):
Yeah, but Starry Eyes for me again, I'm just gonna
piggyback on Johnny.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
It's my favorite favorite Crew song. Man. I just adore
this song, man.

Speaker 7 (43:56):
I love I love the tone of his guitar, the
fat haunting. What he uses is what's called interval chords
on it, and to give you that haunting, you know, haunting,
eerie sound, their interval chords and it just sets like
this melancholy mood that I love. And the freaking solos man,

(44:20):
my god, dude, I don't get it. I don't get
it why they bagged on him so bad when he
played such awesome solos man back then, I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Man. And the cow bells back at the end a
little bit so that's awesome. Yeah, Storry Eyes love.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
It, man, you hit, you hit the way I feel
about it too.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
Haunting counting, there's something haunting about the song.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's that perfect tempo.

Speaker 7 (44:50):
Yeah, it's that perfect tempo with those those augmented interval
chords that he's using. Just gives you that kind of
like black sabage When he hits the triad, you know,
it just tickles that that spot inside you that just
you know, like, oh, you know, that's so awesome, you know.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
But Wang, what's your thoughts on Storry Eyes?

Speaker 5 (45:15):
Man?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Thought provoking conversation from you motherfuckers? And you know, no,
I mean, I'm being real man, I'm not playing off. Now,
here's the deal. When you have real fans that actually
love the music, it's fascination conversation, even though it may
not be perfect, but it's three motherfuckers that actually love this.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Kind of ship and uh, you know, and Storry Eyes.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
You know it's a trippy because listen to the beginning
of the Ghosts on Ghosts.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
I know this is a band way later, but it's
a band that I really love.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
I love huge fan, Yeah, ghost.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
But hold on, let me just answer your question. Boy.
But the song stand by Him off the debut Ghost album.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
That beginning sounds.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Exactly like Starry Eyes and that was like ten years
later or not right, Yeah, so sorry Eyes.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I gave it four to five. Toutis hell.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Yeah, man, all right. Number eight Too Fast for Love Johnny.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
Great track, great track, fun track, great track.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
I love the guitar. The guitar is great. It's it's great.
Back here on the back end of the album.

Speaker 6 (46:46):
It could have been if you don't have Live Wire
on this album, this is.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
Your opening track. Yeah, like if you if you don't
have that that massive, like huge track like live Wire,
this this, this would be a great album opener.

Speaker 6 (47:02):
The lyrics are great and uh, I can see why
it's the the title of the album. We talked about
how cool this album cover is, you know, you know,
homage the Stones.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
I mean, it's it's great. This is this great. I
love this album cover. But yeah, I love Too Fast
for Love.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
Another one that always hits on all the greatest hits
Hit the Dirt.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Soundtrack was in the movie.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
You know, really really great song and and for a
for a back end of the album song.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Man, it doesn't get much better? Than that.

Speaker 7 (47:39):
You know this album is all killer, dude, I don't care, man,
none of these songs are killer.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Guys. What I leave got chip Too Fast for Love Wayne,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Take it and uh just a little side you know me,
you know, spitting wax poetic about shit that happened in
nineteen eighty one. So when Sinking Stanley was, you know,
playing Donkey.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Kong in nineteen eighty one, Uh eleven, you had seven eleven.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Prince Charles was banging the beautiful lady Diana Spencer and
they got married on July twenty ninth of nineteen eighty one,
Lady gentlemen.

Speaker 9 (48:28):
On August first of nineteen eighty one. MTV was in
invented and brought out to the world. And I got
one more thing that I'm gonna wait for.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
So but uh twofessor Laus that riff, it's such a
sub memorial and uh is a badass song four to
five troughticks blah.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Blah about that.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Hell yeah, man, I agree with Johnny.

Speaker 7 (49:01):
This could have been an opener if it wasn't for
Live Wire was so badass because I mean it's just
got that killer that killer chromatic guitar riff man, that
just darning and then.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Oh, man, dude, that's just absolutely killer. Man.

Speaker 7 (49:18):
Vince's vocals just fit fit the back then, Man, I
mean this, I mean everything. It's just perfect chemistry. I
like the great callback in chorus.

Speaker 11 (49:29):
You know they're too fast, too fast for love, you know,
frick oh dude, Man, I just love it, man, I
love the I love that spot at the end, towards
the end where they all pause and take a little
and take a little solo, like it'll pause and you'll
hear the little.

Speaker 7 (49:47):
Do you know, you'll actually hear Nicky play in the
bass if that is Nicky, you know, you know, you
never know with these conspiracy theories nowadays, but you know
they all take you know, the little the little guitar
riff and then the drum fill, you know, and and
surprisingly enough, I mean he takes a little drug fill
and doesn't get that.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Damn cow bell man me what the fuck?

Speaker 7 (50:10):
But uh huh no, man, I just love I adore
this song man, Too Fast for Love? Awesome, awesome, Yeah, Johnny,
let's why don't you take the last.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Song on the Electra release on with the show.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Another one that I consider like a true masterpiece just
just great.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
Uh, mid tempo ballad that the lyrics are great, It's
a story.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Why couldn't he Why couldn't he do? He does this again?

Speaker 6 (50:45):
Like Danger is great too, to back end a great album,
Like I.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Feel like this is kind of there's kind of three
that I that.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
I put together as like the mid temple ballads from
Crew that I really love this Danger which I probably
like Danger.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
A little bit more, a little bit more interesting just
because of the the the musically lyrically I like this more.
And Don't Go Away Man, Yeah, spid tempo ballads that
are really great songs that tell a story. And you know,
I really you know, Tim, I'm really partial to that

(51:23):
video for Don't Go Away Man. Yeah, but Vince busts
in the studio and they all fucking rock out.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
That's dude.

Speaker 7 (51:29):
That that that's one song that tugs at my heart man,
because don't go I know we're getting off subject here, but.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Since you brought it up, I mean.

Speaker 7 (51:38):
I used to play that song with my band and
my singer.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Just loved it, man, And we used to nail that.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
Song and it just brings back such good memories man,
of that walking into your rehearsal where we had a
warehouse and that with all our gears set up very similar,
and we just walk in there and start jamming that
two man and it just sounded so good. My singer
could sing that stuff like a canary and man, just yeah,

(52:07):
that's That's one. One later Motley Cruz song that I
can actually say I love.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Yeah, it's a it's a really good, structured like song.
And I've been looking when Vince when that phone rings
to begin the video, and there's that neon Remember the
neon phones where you can see the inside of the
phone the phone. I've been looking for.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
One of those.

Speaker 6 (52:27):
They're tough to come by. But to get back on
with the show. It's a great song. The music's great,
the tempo.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
Changes are great, the lyrics are great. They draw you in.
I mean, Frankie and Susie. We want to know what happened,
you know. It's a great story. It's great songwriting. He
I don't know what happened to this guy. You know
what happened to this guy? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Well, you know, he ended up he ended up.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Not even writing songs. He ended up being the freaking
six Am crew that wrote the songs in the later album,
I don't know, I fame can fuck kill over.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
I guess, I guess.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
And I guess. Drugs help help, They help you write songs.

Speaker 6 (53:10):
I mean, if anyone debates the drugs don't help you
write songs, play too Fast of Love and then play
Saints of Los Angeles and the argument soldier. That's what
I got fro on with this show. It's a great song.
It's actually I would say.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Behind Sorry Eyes take Me the Task my third favorite.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Song on the record. Wow, yeah, man, on with the show.
I love this song.

Speaker 7 (53:36):
I got to reiterate the fact that this is the
song that got me into Motley Crue because this is
the song my buddy when I was like thirteen years old,
I would go to his house and he would play
this song Nope.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
For note, and I would just sit there with my
jaw dropped on the floor.

Speaker 7 (53:52):
I mean, we're little thirteen year old kids, man, and
he's playing.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
He's like a guitar prodigy. This kid was. I mean
you could look up on YouTube. I mean he could
play Steve Fai No.

Speaker 7 (54:02):
No, it's disgusting man. I could never I could never
get as good as this guy. Man, who's phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
But anyway, he taught me how to play guitar.

Speaker 7 (54:10):
So this brings back just so many, so many good
memories man. And you know, I guess this song is
basically about Nicky changing his name, saying goodbye to Frankie
you know himself, and you know, moving, you know, just
you know, pushing aside his former life and reinventing himself.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
I'm pretty sure that's what the song's about.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
Which is an unbelievable thing to write a song about.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
What great it is it is. It's awesome, man, I
mean you're basically saying, you know.

Speaker 7 (54:43):
Fuck this, this this this guy, this part of me
does not exist anymore.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
This is the new me.

Speaker 7 (54:50):
And you know, good for him, man, good for him, man,
he wrote a killer song about it. It's a great
the guitar riff, the way it's picked, kind of like
Merry Go Round and Round, you know, that little picked
you know, guitar playing that Mick does so great, and
a great guitar solo at the end, and the way

(55:11):
it double times out.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
You know, I I freaking love.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
It, man, Oh baby, you know, oh god dde, it's
the whole package.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Man, Wang, what do you think of the of on
with the show.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah, they closed out the album Nicky six with Vince
Dale a situation, you know, and not to keep repeating myself,
but you know, you guys keep bringing up the incomparable
amazing Mick Mars and he's so fucking shitted on. But
I love his iconic raw riffs on this record and

(55:50):
make sure a punk and that pop and uh just fabulous.
He shines as fun. Yeah, it's a cool song and
you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna say it's three
to five chasticks. Bu buh buh bam. It ain't closing.
It ain't closing. There's there's other things that happened after this,

(56:15):
but so my last thing was on August first, nineteen
eighty one, MTV was launched but in closing on September seventeenth,
nineteen eighty one, Rick Flair. Rick Flair defeats Dusty Rhodes.

(56:36):
Rick Flair defeats Dusty Rhoads to win his first championship.
On September seventeenth, nineteen eighty one, b B B.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Bam oh Man, one of.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
The biggest rivalries in the history of pro wrestling, the
American Dream versus the Nature Boy, Hard.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Times, Hard Times, Our Time, the Ricking Dream, Dusty Rhodes.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
I'm so happy, man, I went to see one wrestling
I never used to go to see wrestling.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
But I used to watch wrestling when.

Speaker 7 (57:13):
It was Dusty Rhodes and you know, and Rick Flair
and the Road Warriors and the Jamaica Jammer and all
that Shid the Hasten Sensation.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
All those all those old cats. Man.

Speaker 7 (57:26):
But man, I got to go to see one wrestling
match and I got to see Rick Flair wrestle Hokogan.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
That was pretty badass.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
I'm so glad I got to see that. But yeah,
like you were saying, Wang freaking Mick mahs.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Man is the star of this album.

Speaker 7 (57:45):
I mean, I I don't think he ever played guitar
any better than on this record.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
It was like, you know, except for a shout.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
At the Devil, I mean it was more, it was
more I don't know, twos two Fests for Love was
more raw and more authentic and more ad lib. Now
the Devil was all right, let's fuck it, let's make
a fucking metal album.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
Yeah, so exactly exactly.

Speaker 6 (58:15):
There's so many more genres of music and style that
are in too Fast for Love, where a shout is.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Got tom battle.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
This gow the Devil was basically nineteen eighty three Los
Angeles heavy metal back.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (58:34):
Yeah, well let's not stop there, man, Let's go ahead
to the other two.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Tracks from around this time, the bonus song.

Speaker 7 (58:43):
I guess if you got the leather version, you would
have got stick to your Guns, Johnny, why don't.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
You go ahead and take stick to your Guns.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
A lot of people are surprised to hear this, but
I'm not a fan of the song.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
I'm not a fan of stick to your Guns. As
a matter of fact, I like every track, the version,
every track that they included better than stick to your Guns.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
I don't think stick to your Guns. I shouldn't say
I'm not a fan.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
I don't think it's a bad song, but it wouldn't
have been a song I chose. I would have been
that band I would have chose to release as like,
here's our first song. I think it's clunky. I don't
think it's great. I think there's a lot better songs
on here. I don't know the timing of it is.

(59:28):
Why that they wanted to release that as their first
single before the Leather record went out. Why they chose
that to be like the first like single they threw
out for that Leather record as opposed to some of
these other songs.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
I don't know. But it's a good song. But I
like all the songs that are included on the electro
Version better than stick to your Guns.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
Yeah, I'm gonna piggyback on you and basically say the
same thing. And then full disclosure, I did not hear
these two songs that we're gonna talk about until way later,
saying so, I honestly I probably didn't hear stick to
your Guns.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Still, I was in my twenties to us to the town.

Speaker 7 (01:00:11):
I heard a little bit earlier in my late teens,
but uh yeah, I mean there's a little bit of
cow bell and stick to your Guns. It's an okay song.
But I can see why Electra took it off. I said,
I I wrote, it just doesn't fit the vibe. It
does not fit the vibe. I don't see where you

(01:00:33):
could stick it in anywhere of these other nine songs.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
It just it just doesn't fit. Man.

Speaker 7 (01:00:39):
It's like an odd jigsaw piece of piece of puzzle.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Man. It just does not fit.

Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
But so Wang, what do you think of stick to
your Guns?

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
There's my little note.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah, it's raw than any other song on their album.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
I like it, man, I'll get it three and a
half out of five.

Speaker 7 (01:01:04):
Toughness, All right, Johnny, why don't you take a Toast
of the town.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
Toast of the Town I'm a similar vibe, but I
like it better and stick to your Guns.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
I like Toasta Town better. I like the tempo a
little better. I think it just blows a little bit
better as a song.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
I like the hate Kid, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
What I mean? Yeah, yeah, that fits.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
It fits good. It's kind of a companion piece to
me at the Public Enemy number one.

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
Very similar tempo, very similar vibe. I think I like
Public Enemy Number one a little bit better, but I
think Toast of the Town is a song better.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
And stick to your Guns. I like it. I wouldn't
replace any song that they included, although I would say
that if you look at the album, there is room
for one more song, and if I'm including one more song,
it's Toast of the Town.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Ugly agree, Waang, go ahead and take toast in Town.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
No, As I said, if you didn't pay attention brother. Yeah, man,
as I said, is a rarer. It's rarer than anything
on the album. And Johnny Vogan, the pimp that he is,
nailed it, and uh, you know, I think it's a
cool song, man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I think it's raws fuck you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
And in particular, yeah, share the devil with Molly crudity
in the heavy metal anybody anybody that denies that should
be their throat slit make a video posted on our
fucking face push bases.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
But uh, this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Song in particular stick to your groes cool songs interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
I give it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
To yeah songs. Okay, you know what wasn't that on?
What was that on?

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Singun Toasted Town was the b side to.

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
Stick to Your Guns, which was the original single that
they put out prior to Leather Records, right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
Johnny, Yes, And you know what touxt the Town is.
It's it's it's rolling stone esy, you know what I mean.
It's covered Rolling stonesy. The song's Rolling Stones all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Right, I get great of five topics.

Speaker 7 (01:03:31):
Yeah, man, Toasting Town, man, I like it. I like
the I like the drumstick count off. I've always liked
this one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
The Gone Gone Yeah, the symbol.

Speaker 7 (01:03:45):
Catches, man, I think I think I think it was
pretty cool, too man, and exactly what you said, Johnny Man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
At out of those two songs, this is the one that.

Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
I would have put on the album, not stick to
Your Guns. So I think I think to the Town
fit the vibe of too Fast for Love much better
than stick.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
To Your Guns. So there you have it. Yeah, too
Fast for Love awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
You know what's funny? Hold On, Mayban, I have both
of these. Hold On, I want to bring.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
This up here. I'm gonna I'm gonna pull this play.

Speaker 8 (01:04:19):
Out wag smoking in your boys everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
Most most people know, but if you don't know, if
you don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
Here's Sticky Fingers and I I rarely pulled this out
of the sleeve.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Oh yeah, with the zipper yep yep up in the jeans.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
Zipper zippers, still intact.

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
Totally total knockoff. Too Fast for Left Coup, It's total.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
God, I feel like it's it's really a great homage
that they did. You know, Sticky Fingers.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Oh yeah, like fast fast forward to the eighties vibe.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
But but I feel like Toasted the Town. It's got
that stone esy vibe to it. You know that that
is not metal it's just a good rock and roll too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Ye good analysis, good analysis.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Hell yeah, man, this has been awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Man, it was so awesome to have you come on,
Johnny Man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
We really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
I'm glad to come on. And I'll just say this,
I just in my I love you both. You know,
we've all been dear friends. You know.

Speaker 6 (01:05:49):
Bill sent me beers for Christmas. He's an unbelievable person.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
Tam we that interaction.

Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
But as far as Motley Crue goes, if Mick's not involved,
I don't want any party.

Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
And that's my take on it. If I could do it.
I actually liked New Kattoo. I thought Randy Castillo did
a great job. I think the album. As far as
as far as the albums goes, I like maybe fifty
percent of the record halfway decent, way more than I
like anything from Saint to.

Speaker 6 (01:06:20):
Los Angeles or Generation Swine. You know, it's it's not
a great record, but it's decent. But and that was
without Tommy, but Mick was there. His guitar work on
there is pretty good. But without Mick, I'm out.

Speaker 7 (01:06:34):
Yeah, I've been out since Doctor Feel Good Man.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
I haven't I haven't listened to a thing they put
out since since Doctor Field Good. I think maybe the
only song I know of is like Primal Scream after.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
That, Primal Scream is a great song.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
There's a couple others that that they've released that I
that I really liked. I liked If I Died Tomorrow,
and I liked God, what the fuck was that one
that was around the same time period, oh, man, and
I really liked.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
I don't know, man, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
There was one that was that was that Carnival of
Sins time frame that I really liked.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Let me see.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
I'm gonna look it up because I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta know that's actually.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
A good concert video. Though I enjoyed the.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Cardinal Sins concert video was great. Actually saw that tour
that was unbelievable. They were on fire and the setlist
was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Then I've never seen crewe never went to seek a crew.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Oh, they were playing rack take it Down.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
You've never seen Molly krue concert.

Speaker 7 (01:07:46):
I never had dude after shouted the Devil, I didn't
like anything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
So I hadn't Desire played Great Desire that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
My question, my question was, did you ever see Molly.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Crue, No Never, whoa Never.

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
I never went to see them live in concert and
I probably never will.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Okay, Yeah, I just sick.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
So I was a real big fan of Sick Love song.
Oh okay, Angela I thought was a great song. I
liked Angela. Some B sides like that never got released,
like if I I Will Survive is one of my
favorite Mottley Crue songs.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
I Will Survive. Look that up on YouTube. That's a
great song.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
Black Widow, that's a great Motley Crue song that you
probably haven't heard in less fan But I Will Survive
and Black Widow or maybe would creep into your top
two or to my top ten all time favorite crew songs.
But I Will Survive is really good. Sick Love song
was good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:56):
I like the song New Tattoo. There's about four or
five songs off a New Tattoo I liked.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
But Yeah, I tortured myself last week because I knew
we were going to be doing this, so I decided
to listen.

Speaker 7 (01:09:10):
To theater or pain and Girls Girls Girls in its entirety,
And yeah, I was I love, I was about I
was about ready to ram into a.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Tree or something. Man because that shit just annoyed the
fuck oad of me. I can't stand those albums, man.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
I like maybe fifty Girls, Girls Girls, and Peter Pain.
I'm I'm still a fan of I like that record
a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:09:37):
There was nothing on Theater Pain other than Home Sweet Home,
and what's that song louder than Hell?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Use Use It or Lose It?

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
As my favorite song on the album. I didn't like
you ma'am lose It Tonight Tonight a Lover?

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I love that song.

Speaker 7 (01:09:52):
But Girls Girls Girls was actually better, I thought, because
wild Side was heavy, and they had a couple of
other tunes on there that were heavy.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
There's a they got, they got the bluesy rock going.
They're all on the name of rock.

Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
Something for nothing's not a bad tune. I don't think
there's one that's the worst. One of the worst crew
songs of.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
All time is on there. God, what is it? It's
so terrible? Oh no, I'll tell you what it is.
It's bad. Oh my god, what is it? Boogie is
one of the worst Motley Cruise songs ever written.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Oh that's just a horrible title to begin with.

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
Bad bad boy Boogie and he's they've got like African
American singers in the background, bad boy Boogie, it's really bad.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Hey, wag, where are you going? Buddy?

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
I like the cover of jail House Rock. I'll be
honest with you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Yeah. Oh man, oh dude, we lost Wang bro.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
We did, we did. But hey, it's good to be
on anytime you guys. Hey, I know my schedule is
kind of crazy, but hey, I'd love to do it
again anytime you guys want. It's great to connect with
you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
You know. Hell, yeah, man, we'll get you on again.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
Maybe hit up some Haalen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Yes, they're a diver down.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
Yeah, buddy, I'll tell you right now. I just I'm
on a. I'm on a. You know, I'm into this
Vinyl spend all my money on this ship.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
They just there's just released a soundboard of the twenty
fifteen Last Man Halein Show ever at the Hollywood Bowl
where you know, Eddie and Dave have that moment where
you know, Dave goes.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Up to add at the very end and says, best
summers of.

Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
My life, home boy have been spent, you know, with
you up on this stage, and it's they got the
soundboard recording. If they just release on a bootleg vinyl.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Yeah, not cheap. Wow, it's out there.

Speaker 6 (01:12:04):
One of my one of my guys, just send me
a couple of picks and that's like one hundred and
fifty bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
It's a guy, can't.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
I'm gonna wait a year or two hopefully that circulates
back around in the get used collectors section.

Speaker 7 (01:12:16):
Yeah, but anyway, tim all right, Johnny Man, it was
great having me, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Uh, I'm gonna end it here.

Speaker 7 (01:12:24):
And I'm gonna get Wang back on to uh to
officially end this podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Good luck, all right, buddy, you take care all right? Man.
Later one eat Timmy lay Down.

Speaker 12 (01:12:37):
Oh wag man, that was awesome. We just had Johnny
Bugan on.

Speaker 7 (01:12:41):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
What do you gotta say about that episode.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
With Johnny, Well, Johnny Vogun is probably the most authentic
motherfucking nigga we've ever encountered.

Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
That motherfucker loves his shit and doesn't give one fuck
about old people's take on his money crew. And I've
always respected that nigga since day one. So I'm honored
and very honored to have that guy on our podcast
and we really respect him and uh, yeah, man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
So awesome, man, he was awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
Yeah, yeah, nobody.

Speaker 12 (01:13:22):
Nobody knows their crew like Johnny.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Wogan, that is the authentic nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
Yes oh man.

Speaker 12 (01:13:31):
Well, that concludes another episode of the Sincred Wearing Show,
so we'll see you next time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
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