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Speaker 1 (00:42):
Thinking Stanley. Here, people are.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Listening their way here bah bah bah by.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And it's time for another episode of the Thinking Wag.
No hey when wait wait wait, did you hear all
the Kiss news.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I've heard a lot of it, absolutely, I have. It's
crazy talk, man, yead.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh my god, dude, what's up with that? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Jean's solo tour is tanking. He canceled all the Florida dates.
And I haven't gotten my refund yet. Oh man, he
better get my refunder. He's gonna hear about it. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I bet he is. I bet he is, brother man.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
And and then then, you know, just to divert tension
away from that, Kiss announce, announce that they're playing together
again in September for like the fiftieth anniversary.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah out in Vegas unmasked with Bruce.
Yeah I heard.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, crazy, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
That's crazy, man, So Bruce must be happy.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, the fiftieth anniversary of the Fan Club or whatever is.
And that wouldn't that obviously be the Kiss.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
The Kiss, Army Kiss, Army Fish. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's crazy, man,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And then this week, this week, man, I met a
fan bro.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I met a fan at work. I go into this
guy's house. Man, he's got all these guitars. So I
got to give a shout out to Donald. Hey, Donald, Man,
it was awesome meeting you.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
But anyway, he.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Had he had like an ace freely like black less Paul.
He had the Paul Stanley Iceman guitar.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It was really cool, man, And I told him. I
told him when I was looking.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
At the guitar, I said, I said, oh, man, Paul
Stanley hates me.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And he's like why. I said, because I'm the parody
character sinking Stanley. And then Guy's like, oh my god,
He's like, I love you, man, I'm a fan. I
watch your shit all the time and all this time.
That was pretty pretty crazy, man, pretty crazy. So waang,
what's going on with you?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Man?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I said, well, hey, when you met this mysterious guy,
did you at least hime about the sink in Wen show.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
He already knew about it. He was playing the Animalized
episode while I was there. Of course he was awesome. Yeah,
he had to prove that he was a fan. He's
like it put us on the putting us on the computer. Man,
while I was there. It was awesome, man, The guy
(03:20):
was awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
So yeah, don thanks for showing me all your guitars. Man,
that was freaking awesome, dude.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeahn man, fucking cool bro.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So what's up, Wang, what's going on with you?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Not much, man, not much at all. Just you know,
just I'm just ready to do this podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hell yeah man, Hell yeah man. Why don't you give
us the give us the stats. Everybody knows what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So ah man, it's yeah man. It's a trippy album
and one that we both were into in real time.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It came out on June twenty seventh, nineteen eighty six,
on em I America. It was produced by Neil Kernan
Kernan and a hell of different studios, but studios in.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Washington, British, Columbia, Glendale, California.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Blah blah blah blah blah. So I'm not going to
get into all the individual studios or whatever. It went
to number forty seven on the Billboard two hundred. Let's see,
it went gold as far as the latest whenever that was,
I don't know when it was.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Jeff Kate vocals, keyboards, Chris DeGarmo guitars, Michael Wilton guitars,
Eddie Jackson bass, Scott Rocket Rock and Field drums. I
saw the tour opening for ac DC on the ac
(04:58):
DC who made ANEKO tour?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Hell? Yeah? So did I opened it for Ozzy? Open it?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Sidh Yeah yeah, And I'm like you, I actually have evidence.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Uh I know, so maybe you can't see it.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'll put it up on the screen, send me a picture.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
It looks like you can see it. Pretty goddamn but yeah,
I'll say you guys, I see Cow Palace, Yeah, sir, Yeah, sure, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So that yeah, Cow Palace in San Francisco, California opening.
Like I said, ACDC is a HUMI who tour August fifteenth,
nineteen eighty six. Yeah, man has just eighty six is
a great year being a young, young, very young person.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But that was a great year man, right right right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Hey, hey did you uh did you realize that that?
Neil Kernan, the producer, Guess what he uh?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Guess what he mixed?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
He mixed?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
He mixed Judas Priest at least in the East, No
fucking shit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
He also produced Paul Notes, Private Eyes in H two
O and Docking under Lock.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And key Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Wow. Yeah, I'm I'm unaware of all that. I don't
have the professional notes that I should.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh you're fine, man, you're fine. I'm back.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I know, I know fine and everything. But that's that's cool.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That very that's what. That's what good co hosts do.
They I don't talking about each other.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Well that's coming. In a couple of months, we'll be
throwing each other under the bus anyway. Right, all right, man,
let me ask you some question. Seek it's out it
think it's down to think it's Telly blah blah blah
blah blah.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Oh oh, we get into a pop culture.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, and put your way back machine, uh uh, lenses
on or or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Let's go back to June twenty seventh, nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
The year of our Lord. So what was the number
one movie in our country? Sink and Stanley.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Take a guess.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh my god, nineteen eighty six. I can't even think, dude.
Was it Back to the Future?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
No, I don't know that was it that the original
one was eighty five?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I thought you were giving me a clue by saying
getting my whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, no, no, no, you're playing along for that. You
get a nick, I gotta go a floor.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You get more than that, you get more than that.
But anyways, so yeah, it was the Karate Kid Part two.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Oh wow. Okay, okay, okay, karate okay, Okay. That starts
to put it in a little bit of context.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Now, okay, right right, and then we're gonna have another
reoccurring thing. So what was the number one TV show?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Brother?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Man?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh, no idea, bro, no idea. I wish I wish
I had a better better No, no, right on.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
At least you're not cheating man.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But no, the number one TV show, which is we
has been the number one TV show, and a bunch
of but the Cosby Show, the Back to the Cosby Show.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
At least we're back.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
At least it wasn't Dallas.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Unfortunately it was not Dallas. I love God Dallas. I
love watching you go back to you crazy for Dallas.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I love that tip. But yeah, man. And then the
number one.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Album and you know on the and the world's chart
as it were, the Billboard two hundred was the Whitney
Houston debut album, Whitney Houston, whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
The name was, I believe it's Whitney. And then the
number one song, the number one song.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Do you know what it was? Us? It's Whitney was
number one? Was it the greatest love of all? No?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Very very knowledgeable, very knowledgeable, but incorrect.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Guess no, it was. And this one it took me
for a loop on my what the fuck song is done?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And if the song is, the song's title is called
on my own And it was a duo, Oh yeah,
on my own with that.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It was Patty LaBelle and Michael McDonald.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Michael McDonald who wrote who co wrote All Wait on
Ben Hill in nineteen.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Eighty four, Good knowledge, brother good And it was in
the Doobey Brothers.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He was a Doobey Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, he was a dude.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And as far as I'm concerned, some of their best songs,
I'm not into Doobie Brothers before that guy was in there.
But when Doobie Brothers went yacht rock with Michael McDonald,
tell me in Bam.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Mia, Michael McDonald had the pipes of gold.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
He was all over the place, man, Yeah, he really was.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
He was so many, so many songs in the seventies
and eighties. It was pathetic, man, God man. They milked
him for everything.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, pretty much, dude, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I heard a story where he just he'd just go into.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
A studio and somebody'd be like, oh, Michael McDonald's here,
you want to sing on this track, Michael, And he'd
say sure, really, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I heard that little story somewhere. I don't know where
it was, but I heard it was like.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
He would just pop into a studio and somebody'd ask
him to sing a little backup on his records, and
they'd be like, sure, man.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's fucking cool as fuck, dude, Yeah it is, it is.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
All right, So let's let's talk sports. Can we talk
sports for a minute?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Oh yeah, go right ahead, all right?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
That NFL champs, the NFL champs of the nineteen eighty
six season were the New York Giants, and and sing
it down.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Who do you think they NBA champs of the nineteen
eighty six.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
God, I have no idea. Would it be the Boston Celtics?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You are you are correct, sir.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You don't even need to put a graphic on the
screen for that one.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
The greatest team ever assembled in NBA history was this team,
the Boston Celtics, which I saw, Oh, God, I would
say I saw about twelve games of that season.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I actually remember watching some of those games man with
McHale and Bird.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, hell yeah yeah. Got five five, five Hall of
Fame members on one team five.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's insane, man.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah. And I'm not even talking about pesky little Danny Ings.
That guy was badass. But yeah. Five.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
So anyways, Boston Celtics and then the World Series champs.
I don't want to talk about that that much. It
was the New York Mets over the Boston Red Sox.
And yeah, and that was the famous Bill Buckner Bill
Buckner Bill there fiasco under them. It was a disaster.
(12:04):
And anyway, yeah, so they met, yeah exactly. And then
last but not least, the Stanley Cup champs up the
nineteen eighty six season, eighty five eighty six season. We're
the Montreal Canadians. They ain't go singing Stanley bye bye
bye bye bah.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
All right, all right, man, man, we're gonna get into
rage for order, man. But uh but before we get
into rage for order, let's talk about this a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Man. So, so you saw the tour.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I saw the tour, right, dude, I gotta ask you
when you saw do you remember, did they open up
with new Regal for you?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I remember, man, dude, I can never forget that, dude.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I was right up on the rail and they started
with that keyboard part at the beginning of this new Regal,
and then Chris de Garmo walks out with the light
on him to his acoustic guitar and starts playing that introdude.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I was right underneath him, dude. It was so awesome, dude.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I was right on the barricade. Oh, it was so
freaking incredible, dude. Man, I'll never forget that, man. And
then Jeff Tate comes out with.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
A guitar and there all three of.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Them are playing guitar on New her Gal because you
would playing the power chords behind the duo solo.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Dude. It was so badass, man, I remember it like
it was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Oh, awesome, awesome.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It was just just incredible, man, dude. And what about
their look? What'd you think about their look at this time?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Well, I wasn't really much of a I mean, I
thought it was so much different than the typical hairband
shit it was. It had a futuristic look, it had
a little I don't know, I very I'm it was
just unconventional.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I thought I thought it had I thought it had
like a Gothic new romantic military.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, being a huge cure Van, there's a little
bit of that little I mean because of the the
you know, the instrumentation.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
But there was all sorts of weird.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I mean, oh god, they've not like the Cure Gothic,
more like more like vampiresm type.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well, the Cure invented Gothic, so it starts cure. We
can argue all you on. But yeah, I thought there
was a like a lot of electronic digital weird effects.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Man. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, and there was nothing really going on, man, But yeah, man,
it was. It was very different and very trippy that
looked in particular, so there go.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Oh yeah, man, they just it was just it was
just so cool, man.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It was just so unique.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And uh so let's get into this, man. We'll talk
more about it as we go. Man, Let's start with
Tract number one, Walk in the Shadows.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh dude, that's just an incredible over opener. Man, this
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Sounded like nothing I had heard before. And I was
and I've been a Queen's Reight fan since the EP right.
I loved the EP. I loved the Warning, but man,
did they take a left turn here? And that's one
thing about Queen's right. They were always very, very ambitious
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and unique and willing to change and and try different stuff.
I'm like, this band just keeps reinventing themselves. Such a
unique sound. The two guitar dealing, dueling attack. Yeah we've
heard it before, but never like this.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Man. Wilson and de Garmo were just they were just
so precise. Man, it was like.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
To me, this was the start of progressive metal. Yeah,
we had progressive with Rush and Yes and all those
types of bands in the seventies, but these guys invented
progressive metal. If it wasn't for Queens Reke, you wouldn't
have bands like like Fates Warning who I Love, and
(16:15):
you wouldn't have Dream Theater and all that shit.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
This is where it started with Queens Rake, Wryang, what
do you think of Walking the Shadows?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
First of all, I think you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Rush invented progressive metal, so let's make let me say
this about that.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I don't think so, man.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, well I come to see it. Come agree, you know,
we disagree.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
That's fine, It's cool.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yes, we do Walk in the Shadows de Garmo Tate Wilton.
According to Chris DeGarmo, the band was into a vampire
chronicle of songs about uh the song. I mean, basically,
it sounds like the song's about a vampire infatuated with
a woman, a mortal woman.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's tried and tried to vince her to join him.
I give a song five out of five chopticks, but by.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Hell yeah, man, wag why don't you take number two?
I Dream and Infra Red Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Tate Wilton composition is the song about a vampire who's
falling in love with immortal and has to leave her
behind before he kills her. I don't know, Heaven only knows,
but anyways, four to five chop kicks.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Hell yeah, man, It's the first of a couple beautifully
haunting love songs. Jeff's voice is just superb, amazing, phenomenal.
The rains, the tonal qualities, and the emotion in his
voice is incredible.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Man.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Just I mean the whole song, the instrumentation, right down
to the to the chimes at the end. Man, this
song is just gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Man. I freaking love it. Man. I dream in and
for Red man as.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
You wrote this boging Oh man, his voice, Man, my god,
I don't know, man.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Awesome all right?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Track number three, The Whisper, Oh dude, fucking a ude,
killer guitar riffs again so different, precise, thought provoking, intelligent lyrics.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Man, at the end, it's like, you know, will you
please raise your right hand? You know? So I'm thinking,
I'm thinking this song as you know.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I don't know, man, There's there's so many things online
about this album and the interpretation of these songs, from
from Vampires to the Manson cult.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Who knows, man, right right, right, right right.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Honestly, this song I think it's about someone on trial
for ark from war crimes.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
But I don't know. I don't care. Man, You interpret
these songs any way you want them. I fucking love
ith Wang. What do you think of the Whisper?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
You know, that's funny that you mentioned the Manson call,
because that's exactly what I came up with my little notes.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Cool. What did you what'd you think? What'd you think?
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, first of all, it's a fabulous song. I mean
like I mean, like like you said, or could bee?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Is Is it a song about the spell of religion
in general, or you know, like I said, a little
quick note of a Manson cult.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
It's a great song.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Fours that Hell yeah, man, all right, track number four,
Gonna Get Close to You, the the Bello cover Wang,
what do you think of their their cover song here
Gonna Get Close to You?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Well, back then as a kid, and I'm gonna say, kid,
so fuck you, not you, but yeah, oh I love
this ship. It's so dark and so badass.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
And the chick's name is Lisa de Bello and I'm
unaware of her. I mean, obviously now i am, but
back then I had no I was oblivious. The videos
eerie and dark.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
And you know, like I said, the videos are very
similar to if you watch the.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Dullbello video, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh was that right?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Go ahead, hell yeah, yeah, they're they're very similar both
the Queen's right getting the developed yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Right, I was like, yeah, I think it's a brilliant song.
Five out of five chap ticks, bitch.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Hell yeah, man, leave it to Queen's right to take
an obscure cover song and make it their own.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Oh geez, it's it's just it's just so weird, man.
But it's awesome, man. You know, it's a great song
about boyeurism and stalking, very gothic and.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
New Romantic themes throughout.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Scott had this weird drum set man that looked like
it had a bunch of dryer too.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, yeah yeah, And he had it in the video
and live it was pretty wild looking, yeah, man, But yeah,
I'm gonna get close to you, man. I freaking love it, man,
love it all right. Moving on number five, The Killing Words,
another great ballad. You know, there's an acoustic version of
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this song too from MTV Unplugged. Obviously, it's a breakup song,
another hauntingly beautiful love song that has just killer powerful
dynamics with the keys, Jeff's vocal delivery, tight drums and bass.
The echoing drums in the verses is just genius. Then
(21:58):
those guitar souls with such feel and emotion. Man, dude,
I can't say enough about this song. Man, It's one
of my favorite songs on the album. I love I
love the Killing Words. What do you think whang.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
De garmo tape composition and then you know I'm always
trying to get about and trying to figure out you.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Know that should be light keyboard intro. It's kind of weird,
you know, it's kind of kind of dated, you know,
you know, and the beautiful thing about this album in
particular is how dark it is, how that you know,
the electronic you know, I didn't eloquently put it into
words earlier, but you know this, it's just it was
(22:43):
just so different than the typical quote unquote glam metal
or whatever at the day.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
But but but I think it recovers after those light
keyboard things. And what is it about.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
It sounds like it's about a relationship as simple as
a relationship beyond repair.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm gonna give it, you know, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Give it a very respectful, very respectful three out of
five chapsticks.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Hell yeah, man, I'll elaborate on what you're saying about
the keyboard thing.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
The keyboards were very dark sound and haunting.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
As opposed as opposed to the to the happy, light
fun keyboards of Saint Duran Duran.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
At the time.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Right, but but but but the beginning keyboards of this
song seecret stand that we're a little bit happy.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah I agree with that, yeah yeah
yeah yeah. But still very.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Cool, man, oh yeaheah yeah for shop hell yeah, because
there ain't nothing wrong with.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Duran durand either Oh no way, Jose Brother, not in
not and not in my world. No I love Dan.
Oh yeah, let's all move on to track.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Number six, Surgical Strike. Wang go ahead and takes surgical strike.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
At de Garmo and take composition. Far as I'm concerned,
it's a highlight on the album.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I just dig it.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Just uh, it's so nineteen eighty six reminds me of like, ah,
like Reagan's take on Lebanon, Olivia.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Excuse me, Lebanon, we kind.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Of got fucked over, but that's another story altogether eighty three,
but eighty six Libya.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But anyways, I think the song's about US five out of.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Five chap this.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Man.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Eddie Jackson's based out is so thumping and powerful, just
so solid on this album, And I mean this song
Man is like I guess it's it's it's about like
the training of soldiers to fight with technical precision through
modern technology, and then they.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Then it had that long like assessment will not be
by humans.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Man, that's that suggests like androids, robots or modern model.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Ai AI exactly right, I mean and that and that,
and that comes up on for me, screaming and digital
coming up.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Oh yeah, yep, yep. That definitely comes up on that
big theme on this album. Man.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
They were so ahead of their time, man.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I mean there, there's just I mean, gosh, man, and
and there and that incredible music.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Man, I mean damn, I mean surgical Strike, Holy shit. Man,
all right, Number seven New Regal. I already gushed on
this a little bit at the beginning. You know, I
saw Chris come out and open with this when I
saw him, I mean, uh, it's just.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I don't know, man, this song, it's it's my favorite
song on the album.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Continuing with a militant theme, but this this is this
you know, I mean in German it means new rule,
So I mean it's basically talking about the coming of
a new Messiah who's gonna.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Take over and all this stuff. And you know, I
love the acoustic intro and the eerie fast synth. Man,
I just love this song, man, favorite song on the album. Wang.
What's your thoughts, New Regal?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah? De Garmo take Yeah, and uh, you know you
you chip me.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Up talking about the German meaning I'm not used to
you bring it up factual things like that.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, but new rule, new rain, new world order.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Whatever I see, I see the song.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I see the song as something of a cry to
the spirit of technology to guide us. I mean, let's
be honest, to guide us into an unforseeable future.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
You know, you don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, remember we just made reference to AI, I
mean the whole I mean, in nineteen eighty six, nobody
was talking about that shit, and I was.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And when I was talking about.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
This, you know, I was talking to somebody a long,
long time ago. It's like this album was was I
think Trent Reznor and this is just my little cute
little synopsis as a young man at twenty years old
or whatever. I bet you he heard this record because this,
in my opinion, was a lot of that nine inch Nails.
(27:37):
Maybe not to the extreme, but I think this was
the beginning of that sort of industrial cuddle, industrial metal,
you know what I'm saying. Hear, Yeah, and not inven
overt since but I think they deny that.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I think if you deny that, you should probably commit suicide.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
In my opinion, just in my opinion, there's definitely elements
of that. I definitely hear that.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, thank you brother.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Man. So yeah, so that this could be the beginning
or the birth of industrial.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Middle Hey, you would not get an argument with me, man.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
That's that's a hot tape right there. Brother.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I've been saying it for a long time. I've been
saying that. Yeah, I've been saying it for a long time.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And I hear it, man, I hear it. I hear it,
espe absolutely, especially on track number eight.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, in pockets in part not saying the whole album
is downward spiral nine in stones, but there are pockets
And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
This album came out long before nine inch snoils.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Ever did way before wait before yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well maybe not long, maybe not long. Maybe maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I think that first nine inch Snails album, No Notes,
came out in eighty eight, but anyways, another before.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a numbers I didn't think. I believe so, brother,
I believe. So maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Who cares, no, But anyways, I think it deserves the
respect that we're giving it. I think it's it deserves
the respect that I'm giving it. Is inventing a sub genre.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Of you know, but anyways, you know, I'll go to
the Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah. Man, so they invented two of genres. And don't
you medal frog metal?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Well, no, you're wrong with prog metal because rush invented that.
Maybe maybe take the time to listen to Turning with
twelve Hemispheres of Pharaoh the Kingdom and they get back
to me and they get and they get back to
me saying it's b BA those albums.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that. I can see that.
Maybe they did invent that.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I'm I'm glad you're the good thing about you.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You're waking up the a rush More prog medal, man,
I mean More got me to say it. I consider
rush More prog rock rock.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, in the context of twenty twenty five their prog rock.
But in nineteen seventy eight, if you don't, not you.
But if anybody can't see that they were prog medal,
they could definitely they should probably commit suicide.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
They definitely influenced prog medal. Did they move on?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
They can me mad move.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Number eight Chemical Youth, Yeah, yeah, billion, go ahead and
take Chemical Youth.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Tate Wilton composition about rebellion brewing among the youths who
realize if we don't stand together, we stand to lose
the future sort of.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I mean, that's a simplistic way of looking at it.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
But I think in nineteen eighty six, eighty five, when
the written record was written, I think you'd be kind
of stupid.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
To denty that I give it. I give it four
to five champions.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Hell yeah, Man, Scott's drumming is so underrated and phenomenal
with all his progressive elements percussion elements mixed in. I mean,
this song man about the youth standing up and changing
the powers that be, It's just a fucking killer song man.
I love the callback mob chance in it, you know,
(31:35):
the save me and all that, and then that hugging
guitar lick. You know, it's just it's just freaking awesome, man,
freaking I freaking love it, man.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
And that part where it's like, if we don't stand together,
we stand with the future.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Oh dude, it's fucking awesome, man, fucking chemical youth rules.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Man, got right, right right?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But hell, then I have to clarify. I you know,
somebody you know banned me. You know, I said, I
was looking at uh a song before. I gave this
song three out of five chopsticks. Three out of five
chop sticks, so not four, but they're good. I just
want to be on record to be authentic and real.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So hey, gum man, all right, let's go takes down.
He tell us about London.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
London, Oh man, London. Man, it's probably my second favorite
song on the album. Man, I just man, I just
love this song.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Some say it's about repenting Jack the Ripper theme, or.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
A that's what I thought, that's that's my notes.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Or a vampire where you know he kills kills the
one he loves, probably by mistake, you know, talking about
they cry. I remember blood red streets on velvet throats
at night. That could either be a vampire or or
Jack the Ripper slashing somebody's throat. Who knows, man, it's
(33:05):
it's just it's just again, man, it's just a killer, eerie.
I say these words over and over again about this album. Eerie, haunting, melancholy.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I mean this, it's just awesome. Man. Just vocals are incredible.
I mean shit, man, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I wish I could have taken your place, my love,
you know, I don't want to live forever?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Man?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
How fucking awesome is lyrics? Like, dude, dude, people weren't
writing shit like this back then, Man, in eight and six.
You know, man, it's just fucking incredible. I love it. Man.
What do you think of London?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I mean, I mean, I get copycat baseball back about
what you said about about Jack the Ripper, you know, totally.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What do I know?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Man?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
What do I know?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
What do you know? Anyways? I give it three o
five chapsticks?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Hell yeah? Man? Wait, why don't you take number ten?
Screaming in Digital? You brought it up a little earlier.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yes, I certainly did, DeGarmo, Tate and Wilton. It has
an ai bet uh.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I mean lyrics, you know, lyrics like am I, the
beat of your pulse, the computer word made flesh.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
We are one, you and I. I mean it just
it sounds to me like it's talking about a computer
trying to become a human. Ai musk the whole bent.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Two and a half out of five chasticks buup.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Be Hell yeah man, Screaming Digital? How fucking awesome is this? Saw?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Man?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I mean yeah, it's it's basically so far ahead of
itself because I think they took this based on a
short story from nineteen sixty nine Super Toys, Super Toys
Last All Summer Long by Brian August, which is basically
what the movie AI was based on by Steven Spielberg,
(35:15):
where you know, they you know, the guy creates, his
son dies and they make an AI version of him.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
A right, yeah, and the AI dollars.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Just the AI is so obsessed with you know, like
like his mom and stuff and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Man, it's just it's just it's just killer. Man. It's
just a killer subject matter.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And then those double bassed drums.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
At the end.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I got to mention that man Scott was bringing the
double bassed drums back in eighty six. Oh, I mean,
I mean screaming in Digital.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I mean, dude, when they open with it with those
fucking you know, callback guitars where it's like ten and.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
It's just so badass ud. I love when they.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Open with this song and the guitars just echoing each other.
It's so freaking killer man.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
I love this song, man, streaming and digital hell yeah, Man,
all right man, And the last track on the album,
I Will Remember Wang.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
What do you think of I will remember.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, it's a de Garmo composition as far as the
most simplest, simplistic way of looking up all this information.
Is it lamenting a civilization's demise, specifically a scenario of
machine domination and the choice of suicide over slavery?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Three to five Chopsy band.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Wow, Man, awesome man, intriguing, intriguing analysis.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Man, thank you, thank you, man, you thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Thank I threw my take. I love this song.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
It's so fucking beautiful, man, I love this song. You know,
A romantic song about spy satellites. Uh yeah, man, between
that and all the internet.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Algorithms, big brother man is always watching us, man, and
that's kind of what this song, you know, represents to me.
But it's just a it's a beautiful song.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
What a way to talk about such a heavy subject.
You now, just just great stuff, man.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
This fucking album rules, man, So thought provoking, man makes
it really is.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
It's not the typical seem old bullshit. I mean they
were they were literally trying something different.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, and they didn't that man, And they were so
ahead of their time. This this album. There's so much
stuff on this album. There so relative right now.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Oh, yeah, you know, yeah, absolutely, And I mean and
you can say that about you know, some of their
other albums do.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
But yeah, but this one big time man.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
They were so far ahead and time flows, they were reaching.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
So far outside of the fox crazy man, so wag Man.
Didn't you have any other world pop colt world pop
culture to talk about it?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Funny you should ask very good there see you tell
yeh head.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I was like, what the hell, man, where's the where's.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
The I usually have world shit.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
There's only a couple of world things.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
But anyways, nineteen eighty six, January fourth, Bill Lennon dies
from that.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
From obviously.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
End Lizzy unfortunately and yeah, and then on January twenty
eighth of nineteen eighty six, the Space Shuttle Challenger of explosion.
And what's funny is on January twenty seven, I saw that?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, how you saw that shore real time? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
But yeah obviously soon to iBook. What do you mean
you were actually on the coast of Florida watching it?
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yes, I watched it blow up right above me. Literally, yeah,
we can. We walked outside our school and just watched
the shuttle go up and it blew up right in
front of it.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Wow, that's crazy talk and that's not provoking shit. But anyways,
still on a personal selfish shit. So I saw Rush
on January twenty seventh in Oakland, California. January twenty seventh
in nineteen eighty six, and oh this was the Power
Windows store in Oakland, California. And then on January twenty eighth,
(39:41):
the Space Shuttle Challenger happened. And then on January twenty
ninth did Sarah Martisco at the cal Palace. I saw
Rush again and they did a tribute.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
To the Space Challenge Challenger.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
They did countdown from signals awesome man have an elementary
school right around, right right around the corner.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
From me, dedicated to Christy McCalla, the teacher there.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Oh awesome man Austin.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
And then on victor At twenty second, nineteen eighty six,
Ozzy Osborn's Ultimate Sin was released, and then on March third,
nineteen eighty six, metallicas Master of Puppets. April seventh, Judas
Priest Turbo was released. April twenty sixth, the Chernerbyl nuclear
disaster in the Soviet Union happened, which technically was a Ukraine,
(40:36):
which is a mind fuck, but anyway, that's another start
for another day. On July seventh of nineteen eighty six,
David Lee, Ross Eden and Smile was released. Oh yeah album, Yeah,
Oh absolutely ray.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I saw that tour on I saw that tour on
December twelfth of nineteen eighty six at the cow Poules.
Yes there, yes there, yes there.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
And then second of nineteen eighty six, The Damie Benson
Invason Gang released their debut record, So that was fun
and then reviewed, which we reviewed. So next weekend, yes
we did very good. Uh, thank you sink it's down.
But and then the next three here's the deal. All
(41:19):
these dates that you get from looking up the shit
on the internet, who fucking notes, and here's the deal.
So on September twenty fourth it says that Rass Dancing
under Cover came out, came out, And then on September
twenty fifth it says Mega Death Pace Cells, but Who's
Buying came out?
Speaker 2 (41:35):
And then on September twenty ninth it says Iron Made
Summer in Time. So whatever.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
So those are three awesome records. So then last, but
not least two more. On October seventh, Slayer, Rain and
Blood was released. Wow yeah, and ain't closing. On November
twenty second, nineteen eight, sixty year of our Lord, Mike
(42:03):
Tyson becomes the youngest Everyway champion ever at twenty years old,
and he kicked the ship out of a man called
Trevor Perfect.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
They go, hell yeah, man, wow, man, what a year
manneteen Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yes, sir, brother dear. How lucky were we to live
that year? Man?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Holy shit, absolutely brother, absolutely yeah, right on there, And
thanks for reminding me, man, I would have forgotten.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Hell yeah, man, Hey, that's that's what good co hosts do.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Many Sarah back, he turned up.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Man, They don't. They don't fucking talk shit about each other.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
There go, there, you go, there you go the.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Hell yeah, man, it's away. They've got anything else name.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I think I'm gone. I'm done, brother, I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
I'm done to man. It's been one hell of a week. Man,
I've been a dude. I called you during the week.
I said, Man, I don't know if I'm gonna be
ready for this. I was so fucking slammed. But we
did it, man, we did it. We got it done.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Man, fucking page for professionals.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Professional Hell yeah. Man.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
All right, then, so that wraps up another edition of
the Sinking Way Show.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
We'll see you next time, bail. This has been a
Think Army production.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Bam.
Thinking Stanley. Here, people are.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Listening their way here bah bah bah by.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And it's time for another episode of the Thinking Wag.
No hey when wait wait wait, did you hear all
the Kiss news.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I've heard a lot of it, absolutely, I have. It's
crazy talk, man, yead.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh my god, dude, what's up with that? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Jean's solo tour is tanking. He canceled all the Florida dates.
And I haven't gotten my refund yet. Oh man, he
better get my refunder. He's gonna hear about it. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I bet he is. I bet he is, brother man.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
And and then then, you know, just to divert tension
away from that, Kiss announce, announce that they're playing together
again in September for like the fiftieth anniversary.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah out in Vegas unmasked with Bruce.
Yeah I heard.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, crazy, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
That's crazy, man, So Bruce must be happy.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, the fiftieth anniversary of the Fan Club or whatever is.
And that wouldn't that obviously be the Kiss.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
The Kiss, Army Kiss, Army Fish. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's crazy, man,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And then this week, this week, man, I met a
fan bro.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I met a fan at work. I go into this
guy's house. Man, he's got all these guitars. So I
got to give a shout out to Donald. Hey, Donald, Man,
it was awesome meeting you.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
But anyway, he.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Had he had like an ace freely like black less Paul.
He had the Paul Stanley Iceman guitar.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It was really cool, man, And I told him. I
told him when I was looking.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
At the guitar, I said, I said, oh, man, Paul
Stanley hates me.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And he's like why. I said, because I'm the parody
character sinking Stanley. And then Guy's like, oh my god,
He's like, I love you, man, I'm a fan. I
watch your shit all the time and all this time.
That was pretty pretty crazy, man, pretty crazy. So waang,
what's going on with you?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Man?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I said, well, hey, when you met this mysterious guy,
did you at least hime about the sink in Wen show.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
He already knew about it. He was playing the Animalized
episode while I was there. Of course he was awesome. Yeah,
he had to prove that he was a fan. He's
like it put us on the putting us on the computer. Man,
while I was there. It was awesome, man, The guy
(03:20):
was awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
So yeah, don thanks for showing me all your guitars. Man,
that was freaking awesome, dude.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeahn man, fucking cool bro.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So what's up, Wang, what's going on with you?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Not much, man, not much at all. Just you know,
just I'm just ready to do this podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hell yeah man, Hell yeah man. Why don't you give
us the give us the stats. Everybody knows what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So ah man, it's yeah man. It's a trippy album
and one that we both were into in real time.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It came out on June twenty seventh, nineteen eighty six,
on em I America. It was produced by Neil Kernan
Kernan and a hell of different studios, but studios in.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Washington, British, Columbia, Glendale, California.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Blah blah blah blah blah. So I'm not going to
get into all the individual studios or whatever. It went
to number forty seven on the Billboard two hundred. Let's see,
it went gold as far as the latest whenever that was,
I don't know when it was.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Jeff Kate vocals, keyboards, Chris DeGarmo guitars, Michael Wilton guitars,
Eddie Jackson bass, Scott Rocket Rock and Field drums. I
saw the tour opening for ac DC on the ac
(04:58):
DC who made ANEKO tour?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Hell? Yeah? So did I opened it for Ozzy? Open it?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Sidh Yeah yeah, And I'm like you, I actually have evidence.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Uh I know, so maybe you can't see it.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'll put it up on the screen, send me a picture.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
It looks like you can see it. Pretty goddamn but yeah,
I'll say you guys, I see Cow Palace, Yeah, sir, Yeah, sure, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So that yeah, Cow Palace in San Francisco, California opening.
Like I said, ACDC is a HUMI who tour August fifteenth,
nineteen eighty six. Yeah, man has just eighty six is
a great year being a young, young, very young person.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But that was a great year man, right right right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Hey, hey did you uh did you realize that that?
Neil Kernan, the producer, Guess what he uh?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Guess what he mixed?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
He mixed?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
He mixed Judas Priest at least in the East, No
fucking shit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
He also produced Paul Notes, Private Eyes in H two
O and Docking under Lock.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And key Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Wow. Yeah, I'm I'm unaware of all that. I don't
have the professional notes that I should.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh you're fine, man, you're fine. I'm back.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I know, I know fine and everything. But that's that's cool.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That very that's what. That's what good co hosts do.
They I don't talking about each other.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Well that's coming. In a couple of months, we'll be
throwing each other under the bus anyway. Right, all right, man,
let me ask you some question. Seek it's out it
think it's down to think it's Telly blah blah blah
blah blah.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Oh oh, we get into a pop culture.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, and put your way back machine, uh uh, lenses
on or or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Let's go back to June twenty seventh, nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
The year of our Lord. So what was the number
one movie in our country? Sink and Stanley.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Take a guess.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh my god, nineteen eighty six. I can't even think, dude.
Was it Back to the Future?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
No, I don't know that was it that the original
one was eighty five?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I thought you were giving me a clue by saying
getting my whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, no, no, no, you're playing along for that. You
get a nick, I gotta go a floor.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You get more than that, you get more than that.
But anyways, so yeah, it was the Karate Kid Part two.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Oh wow. Okay, okay, okay, karate okay, Okay. That starts
to put it in a little bit of context.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Now, okay, right right, and then we're gonna have another
reoccurring thing. So what was the number one TV show?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Brother?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Man?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh, no idea, bro, no idea. I wish I wish
I had a better better No, no, right on.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
At least you're not cheating man.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But no, the number one TV show, which is we
has been the number one TV show, and a bunch
of but the Cosby Show, the Back to the Cosby Show.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
At least we're back.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
At least it wasn't Dallas.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Unfortunately it was not Dallas. I love God Dallas. I
love watching you go back to you crazy for Dallas.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I love that tip. But yeah, man. And then the
number one.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Album and you know on the and the world's chart
as it were, the Billboard two hundred was the Whitney
Houston debut album, Whitney Houston, whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
The name was, I believe it's Whitney. And then the
number one song, the number one song.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Do you know what it was? Us? It's Whitney was
number one? Was it the greatest love of all? No?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Very very knowledgeable, very knowledgeable, but incorrect.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Guess no, it was. And this one it took me
for a loop on my what the fuck song is done?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And if the song is, the song's title is called
on my own And it was a duo, Oh yeah,
on my own with that.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It was Patty LaBelle and Michael McDonald.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Michael McDonald who wrote who co wrote All Wait on
Ben Hill in nineteen.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Eighty four, Good knowledge, brother good And it was in
the Doobey Brothers.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He was a Doobey Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, he was a dude.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And as far as I'm concerned, some of their best songs,
I'm not into Doobie Brothers before that guy was in there.
But when Doobie Brothers went yacht rock with Michael McDonald,
tell me in Bam.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Mia, Michael McDonald had the pipes of gold.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
He was all over the place, man, Yeah, he really was.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
He was so many, so many songs in the seventies
and eighties. It was pathetic, man, God man. They milked
him for everything.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, pretty much, dude, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I heard a story where he just he'd just go into.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
A studio and somebody'd be like, oh, Michael McDonald's here,
you want to sing on this track, Michael, And he'd
say sure, really, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I heard that little story somewhere. I don't know where
it was, but I heard it was like.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
He would just pop into a studio and somebody'd ask
him to sing a little backup on his records, and
they'd be like, sure, man.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's fucking cool as fuck, dude, Yeah it is, it is.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
All right, So let's let's talk sports. Can we talk
sports for a minute?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Oh yeah, go right ahead, all right?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
That NFL champs, the NFL champs of the nineteen eighty
six season were the New York Giants, and and sing
it down.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Who do you think they NBA champs of the nineteen
eighty six.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
God, I have no idea. Would it be the Boston Celtics?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You are you are correct, sir.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You don't even need to put a graphic on the
screen for that one.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
The greatest team ever assembled in NBA history was this team,
the Boston Celtics, which I saw, Oh, God, I would
say I saw about twelve games of that season.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I actually remember watching some of those games man with
McHale and Bird.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, hell yeah yeah. Got five five, five Hall of
Fame members on one team five.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's insane, man.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah. And I'm not even talking about pesky little Danny Ings.
That guy was badass. But yeah. Five.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
So anyways, Boston Celtics and then the World Series champs.
I don't want to talk about that that much. It
was the New York Mets over the Boston Red Sox.
And yeah, and that was the famous Bill Buckner Bill
Buckner Bill there fiasco under them. It was a disaster.
(12:04):
And anyway, yeah, so they met, yeah exactly. And then
last but not least, the Stanley Cup champs up the
nineteen eighty six season, eighty five eighty six season. We're
the Montreal Canadians. They ain't go singing Stanley bye bye
bye bye bah.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
All right, all right, man, man, we're gonna get into
rage for order, man. But uh but before we get
into rage for order, let's talk about this a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Man. So, so you saw the tour.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I saw the tour, right, dude, I gotta ask you
when you saw do you remember, did they open up
with new Regal for you?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I remember, man, dude, I can never forget that, dude.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I was right up on the rail and they started
with that keyboard part at the beginning of this new Regal,
and then Chris de Garmo walks out with the light
on him to his acoustic guitar and starts playing that introdude.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I was right underneath him, dude. It was so awesome, dude.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I was right on the barricade. Oh, it was so
freaking incredible, dude. Man, I'll never forget that, man. And
then Jeff Tate comes out with.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
A guitar and there all three of.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Them are playing guitar on New her Gal because you
would playing the power chords behind the duo solo.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Dude. It was so badass, man, I remember it like
it was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Oh, awesome, awesome.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It was just just incredible, man, dude. And what about
their look? What'd you think about their look at this time?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Well, I wasn't really much of a I mean, I
thought it was so much different than the typical hairband
shit it was. It had a futuristic look, it had
a little I don't know, I very I'm it was
just unconventional.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I thought I thought it had I thought it had
like a Gothic new romantic military.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, being a huge cure Van, there's a little
bit of that little I mean because of the the
you know, the instrumentation.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
But there was all sorts of weird.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I mean, oh god, they've not like the Cure Gothic,
more like more like vampiresm type.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well, the Cure invented Gothic, so it starts cure. We
can argue all you on. But yeah, I thought there
was a like a lot of electronic digital weird effects.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Man. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, and there was nothing really going on, man, But yeah, man,
it was. It was very different and very trippy that
looked in particular, so there go.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Oh yeah, man, they just it was just it was
just so cool, man.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It was just so unique.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And uh so let's get into this, man. We'll talk
more about it as we go. Man, Let's start with
Tract number one, Walk in the Shadows.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh dude, that's just an incredible over opener. Man, this
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Sounded like nothing I had heard before. And I was
and I've been a Queen's Reight fan since the EP right.
I loved the EP. I loved the Warning, but man,
did they take a left turn here? And that's one
thing about Queen's right. They were always very, very ambitious
(15:31):
and unique and willing to change and and try different stuff.
I'm like, this band just keeps reinventing themselves. Such a
unique sound. The two guitar dealing, dueling attack. Yeah we've
heard it before, but never like this.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Man. Wilson and de Garmo were just they were just
so precise. Man, it was like.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
To me, this was the start of progressive metal. Yeah,
we had progressive with Rush and Yes and all those
types of bands in the seventies, but these guys invented
progressive metal. If it wasn't for Queens Reke, you wouldn't
have bands like like Fates Warning who I Love, and
(16:15):
you wouldn't have Dream Theater and all that shit.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
This is where it started with Queens Rake, Wryang, what
do you think of Walking the Shadows?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
First of all, I think you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Rush invented progressive metal, so let's make let me say
this about that.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I don't think so, man.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, well I come to see it. Come agree, you know,
we disagree.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
That's fine, It's cool.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yes, we do Walk in the Shadows de Garmo Tate Wilton.
According to Chris DeGarmo, the band was into a vampire
chronicle of songs about uh the song. I mean, basically,
it sounds like the song's about a vampire infatuated with
a woman, a mortal woman.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's tried and tried to vince her to join him.
I give a song five out of five chopticks, but by.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Hell yeah, man, wag why don't you take number two?
I Dream and Infra Red Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Tate Wilton composition is the song about a vampire who's
falling in love with immortal and has to leave her
behind before he kills her. I don't know, Heaven only knows,
but anyways, four to five chop kicks.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Hell yeah, man, It's the first of a couple beautifully
haunting love songs. Jeff's voice is just superb, amazing, phenomenal.
The rains, the tonal qualities, and the emotion in his
voice is incredible.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Man.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Just I mean the whole song, the instrumentation, right down
to the to the chimes at the end. Man, this
song is just gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Man. I freaking love it. Man. I dream in and
for Red man as.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
You wrote this boging Oh man, his voice, Man, my god,
I don't know, man.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Awesome all right?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Track number three, The Whisper, Oh dude, fucking a ude,
killer guitar riffs again so different, precise, thought provoking, intelligent lyrics.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Man, at the end, it's like, you know, will you
please raise your right hand? You know? So I'm thinking,
I'm thinking this song as you know.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I don't know, man, There's there's so many things online
about this album and the interpretation of these songs, from
from Vampires to the Manson cult.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Who knows, man, right right, right, right right.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Honestly, this song I think it's about someone on trial
for ark from war crimes.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
But I don't know. I don't care. Man, You interpret
these songs any way you want them. I fucking love
ith Wang. What do you think of the Whisper?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
You know, that's funny that you mentioned the Manson call,
because that's exactly what I came up with my little notes.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Cool. What did you what'd you think? What'd you think?
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, first of all, it's a fabulous song. I mean
like I mean, like like you said, or could bee?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Is Is it a song about the spell of religion
in general, or you know, like I said, a little
quick note of a Manson cult.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
It's a great song.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Fours that Hell yeah, man, all right, track number four,
Gonna Get Close to You, the the Bello cover Wang,
what do you think of their their cover song here
Gonna Get Close to You?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Well, back then as a kid, and I'm gonna say, kid,
so fuck you, not you, but yeah, oh I love
this ship. It's so dark and so badass.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
And the chick's name is Lisa de Bello and I'm
unaware of her. I mean, obviously now i am, but
back then I had no I was oblivious. The videos
eerie and dark.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
And you know, like I said, the videos are very
similar to if you watch the.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Dullbello video, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh was that right?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Go ahead, hell yeah, yeah, they're they're very similar both
the Queen's right getting the developed yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Right, I was like, yeah, I think it's a brilliant song.
Five out of five chap ticks, bitch.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Hell yeah, man, leave it to Queen's right to take
an obscure cover song and make it their own.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Oh geez, it's it's just it's just so weird, man.
But it's awesome, man. You know, it's a great song
about boyeurism and stalking, very gothic and.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
New Romantic themes throughout.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Scott had this weird drum set man that looked like
it had a bunch of dryer too.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, yeah yeah, And he had it in the video
and live it was pretty wild looking, yeah, man, But yeah,
I'm gonna get close to you, man. I freaking love it, man,
love it all right. Moving on number five, The Killing Words,
another great ballad. You know, there's an acoustic version of
(21:35):
this song too from MTV Unplugged. Obviously, it's a breakup song,
another hauntingly beautiful love song that has just killer powerful
dynamics with the keys, Jeff's vocal delivery, tight drums and bass.
The echoing drums in the verses is just genius. Then
(21:58):
those guitar souls with such feel and emotion. Man, dude,
I can't say enough about this song. Man, It's one
of my favorite songs on the album. I love I
love the Killing Words. What do you think whang.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
De garmo tape composition and then you know I'm always
trying to get about and trying to figure out you.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Know that should be light keyboard intro. It's kind of weird,
you know, it's kind of kind of dated, you know,
you know, and the beautiful thing about this album in
particular is how dark it is, how that you know,
the electronic you know, I didn't eloquently put it into
words earlier, but you know this, it's just it was
(22:43):
just so different than the typical quote unquote glam metal
or whatever at the day.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
But but but I think it recovers after those light
keyboard things. And what is it about.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
It sounds like it's about a relationship as simple as
a relationship beyond repair.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm gonna give it, you know, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Give it a very respectful, very respectful three out of
five chapsticks.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Hell yeah, man, I'll elaborate on what you're saying about
the keyboard thing.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
The keyboards were very dark sound and haunting.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
As opposed as opposed to the to the happy, light
fun keyboards of Saint Duran Duran.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
At the time.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Right, but but but but the beginning keyboards of this
song seecret stand that we're a little bit happy.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah I agree with that, yeah yeah
yeah yeah. But still very.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Cool, man, oh yeaheah yeah for shop hell yeah, because
there ain't nothing wrong with.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Duran durand either Oh no way, Jose Brother, not in
not and not in my world. No I love Dan.
Oh yeah, let's all move on to track.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Number six, Surgical Strike. Wang go ahead and takes surgical strike.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
At de Garmo and take composition. Far as I'm concerned,
it's a highlight on the album.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I just dig it.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Just uh, it's so nineteen eighty six reminds me of like, ah,
like Reagan's take on Lebanon, Olivia.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Excuse me, Lebanon, we kind.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Of got fucked over, but that's another story altogether eighty three,
but eighty six Libya.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But anyways, I think the song's about US five out of.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Five chap this.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Man.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Eddie Jackson's based out is so thumping and powerful, just
so solid on this album, And I mean this song
Man is like I guess it's it's it's about like
the training of soldiers to fight with technical precision through
modern technology, and then they.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Then it had that long like assessment will not be
by humans.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Man, that's that suggests like androids, robots or modern model.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Ai AI exactly right, I mean and that and that,
and that comes up on for me, screaming and digital
coming up.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Oh yeah, yep, yep. That definitely comes up on that
big theme on this album. Man.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
They were so ahead of their time, man.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I mean there, there's just I mean, gosh, man, and
and there and that incredible music.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Man, I mean damn, I mean surgical Strike, Holy shit. Man,
all right, Number seven New Regal. I already gushed on
this a little bit at the beginning. You know, I
saw Chris come out and open with this when I
saw him, I mean, uh, it's just.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I don't know, man, this song, it's it's my favorite
song on the album.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Continuing with a militant theme, but this this is this
you know, I mean in German it means new rule,
So I mean it's basically talking about the coming of
a new Messiah who's gonna.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Take over and all this stuff. And you know, I
love the acoustic intro and the eerie fast synth. Man,
I just love this song, man, favorite song on the album. Wang.
What's your thoughts, New Regal?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah? De Garmo take Yeah, and uh, you know you
you chip me.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Up talking about the German meaning I'm not used to
you bring it up factual things like that.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, but new rule, new rain, new world order.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Whatever I see, I see the song.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I see the song as something of a cry to
the spirit of technology to guide us. I mean, let's
be honest, to guide us into an unforseeable future.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
You know, you don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, remember we just made reference to AI, I
mean the whole I mean, in nineteen eighty six, nobody
was talking about that shit, and I was.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And when I was talking about.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
This, you know, I was talking to somebody a long,
long time ago. It's like this album was was I
think Trent Reznor and this is just my little cute
little synopsis as a young man at twenty years old
or whatever. I bet you he heard this record because this,
in my opinion, was a lot of that nine inch Nails.
(27:37):
Maybe not to the extreme, but I think this was
the beginning of that sort of industrial cuddle, industrial metal,
you know what I'm saying. Hear, Yeah, and not inven
overt since but I think they deny that.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I think if you deny that, you should probably commit suicide.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
In my opinion, just in my opinion, there's definitely elements
of that. I definitely hear that.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, thank you brother.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Man. So yeah, so that this could be the beginning
or the birth of industrial.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Middle Hey, you would not get an argument with me, man.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
That's that's a hot tape right there. Brother.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I've been saying it for a long time. I've been
saying that. Yeah, I've been saying it for a long time.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And I hear it, man, I hear it. I hear it,
espe absolutely, especially on track number eight.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, in pockets in part not saying the whole album
is downward spiral nine in stones, but there are pockets
And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
This album came out long before nine inch snoils.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Ever did way before wait before yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well maybe not long, maybe not long. Maybe maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I think that first nine inch Snails album, No Notes,
came out in eighty eight, but anyways, another before.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a numbers I didn't think. I believe so, brother,
I believe. So maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Who cares, no, But anyways, I think it deserves the
respect that we're giving it. I think it's it deserves
the respect that I'm giving it. Is inventing a sub genre.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Of you know, but anyways, you know, I'll go to
the Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah. Man, so they invented two of genres. And don't
you medal frog metal?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Well, no, you're wrong with prog metal because rush invented that.
Maybe maybe take the time to listen to Turning with
twelve Hemispheres of Pharaoh the Kingdom and they get back
to me and they get and they get back to
me saying it's b BA those albums.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that. I can see that.
Maybe they did invent that.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I'm I'm glad you're the good thing about you.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You're waking up the a rush More prog medal, man,
I mean More got me to say it. I consider
rush More prog rock rock.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, in the context of twenty twenty five their prog rock.
But in nineteen seventy eight, if you don't, not you.
But if anybody can't see that they were prog medal,
they could definitely they should probably commit suicide.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
They definitely influenced prog medal. Did they move on?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
They can me mad move.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Number eight Chemical Youth, Yeah, yeah, billion, go ahead and
take Chemical Youth.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Tate Wilton composition about rebellion brewing among the youths who
realize if we don't stand together, we stand to lose
the future sort of.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I mean, that's a simplistic way of looking at it.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
But I think in nineteen eighty six, eighty five, when
the written record was written, I think you'd be kind
of stupid.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
To denty that I give it. I give it four
to five champions.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Hell yeah, Man, Scott's drumming is so underrated and phenomenal
with all his progressive elements percussion elements mixed in. I mean,
this song man about the youth standing up and changing
the powers that be, It's just a fucking killer song man.
I love the callback mob chance in it, you know,
(31:35):
the save me and all that, and then that hugging
guitar lick. You know, it's just it's just freaking awesome, man,
freaking I freaking love it, man.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
And that part where it's like, if we don't stand together,
we stand with the future.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Oh dude, it's fucking awesome, man, fucking chemical youth rules.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Man, got right, right right?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But hell, then I have to clarify. I you know,
somebody you know banned me. You know, I said, I
was looking at uh a song before. I gave this
song three out of five chopsticks. Three out of five
chop sticks, so not four, but they're good. I just
want to be on record to be authentic and real.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So hey, gum man, all right, let's go takes down.
He tell us about London.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
London, Oh man, London. Man, it's probably my second favorite
song on the album. Man, I just man, I just
love this song.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Some say it's about repenting Jack the Ripper theme, or.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
A that's what I thought, that's that's my notes.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Or a vampire where you know he kills kills the
one he loves, probably by mistake, you know, talking about
they cry. I remember blood red streets on velvet throats
at night. That could either be a vampire or or
Jack the Ripper slashing somebody's throat. Who knows, man, it's
(33:05):
it's just it's just again, man, it's just a killer, eerie.
I say these words over and over again about this album. Eerie, haunting, melancholy.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I mean this, it's just awesome. Man. Just vocals are incredible.
I mean shit, man, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I wish I could have taken your place, my love,
you know, I don't want to live forever?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Man?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
How fucking awesome is lyrics? Like, dude, dude, people weren't
writing shit like this back then, Man, in eight and six.
You know, man, it's just fucking incredible. I love it. Man.
What do you think of London?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I mean, I mean, I get copycat baseball back about
what you said about about Jack the Ripper, you know, totally.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
What do I know?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Man?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
What do I know?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
What do you know? Anyways? I give it three o
five chapsticks?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Hell yeah? Man? Wait, why don't you take number ten?
Screaming in Digital? You brought it up a little earlier.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yes, I certainly did, DeGarmo, Tate and Wilton. It has
an ai bet uh.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I mean lyrics, you know, lyrics like am I, the
beat of your pulse, the computer word made flesh.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
We are one, you and I. I mean it just
it sounds to me like it's talking about a computer
trying to become a human. Ai musk the whole bent.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Two and a half out of five chasticks buup.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Be Hell yeah man, Screaming Digital? How fucking awesome is this? Saw?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Man?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I mean yeah, it's it's basically so far ahead of
itself because I think they took this based on a
short story from nineteen sixty nine Super Toys, Super Toys
Last All Summer Long by Brian August, which is basically
what the movie AI was based on by Steven Spielberg,
(35:15):
where you know, they you know, the guy creates, his
son dies and they make an AI version of him.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
A right, yeah, and the AI dollars.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Just the AI is so obsessed with you know, like
like his mom and stuff and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Man, it's just it's just it's just killer. Man. It's
just a killer subject matter.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And then those double bassed drums.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
At the end.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I got to mention that man Scott was bringing the
double bassed drums back in eighty six. Oh, I mean,
I mean screaming in Digital.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I mean, dude, when they open with it with those
fucking you know, callback guitars where it's like ten and.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
It's just so badass ud. I love when they.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Open with this song and the guitars just echoing each other.
It's so freaking killer man.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
I love this song, man, streaming and digital hell yeah, Man,
all right man, And the last track on the album,
I Will Remember Wang.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
What do you think of I will remember.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, it's a de Garmo composition as far as the
most simplest, simplistic way of looking up all this information.
Is it lamenting a civilization's demise, specifically a scenario of
machine domination and the choice of suicide over slavery?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Three to five Chopsy band.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Wow, Man, awesome man, intriguing, intriguing analysis.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Man, thank you, thank you, man, you thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Thank I threw my take. I love this song.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
It's so fucking beautiful, man, I love this song. You know,
A romantic song about spy satellites. Uh yeah, man, between
that and all the internet.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Algorithms, big brother man is always watching us, man, and
that's kind of what this song, you know, represents to me.
But it's just a it's a beautiful song.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
What a way to talk about such a heavy subject.
You now, just just great stuff, man.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
This fucking album rules, man, So thought provoking, man makes
it really is.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
It's not the typical seem old bullshit. I mean they
were they were literally trying something different.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, and they didn't that man, And they were so
ahead of their time. This this album. There's so much
stuff on this album. There so relative right now.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Oh, yeah, you know, yeah, absolutely, And I mean and
you can say that about you know, some of their
other albums do.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
But yeah, but this one big time man.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
They were so far ahead and time flows, they were reaching.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
So far outside of the fox crazy man, so wag Man.
Didn't you have any other world pop colt world pop
culture to talk about it?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Funny you should ask very good there see you tell
yeh head.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I was like, what the hell, man, where's the where's.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
The I usually have world shit.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
There's only a couple of world things.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
But anyways, nineteen eighty six, January fourth, Bill Lennon dies
from that.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
From obviously.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
End Lizzy unfortunately and yeah, and then on January twenty
eighth of nineteen eighty six, the Space Shuttle Challenger of explosion.
And what's funny is on January twenty seven, I saw that?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, how you saw that shore real time? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
But yeah obviously soon to iBook. What do you mean
you were actually on the coast of Florida watching it?
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yes, I watched it blow up right above me. Literally, yeah,
we can. We walked outside our school and just watched
the shuttle go up and it blew up right in
front of it.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Wow, that's crazy talk and that's not provoking shit. But anyways,
still on a personal selfish shit. So I saw Rush
on January twenty seventh in Oakland, California. January twenty seventh
in nineteen eighty six, and oh this was the Power
Windows store in Oakland, California. And then on January twenty eighth,
(39:41):
the Space Shuttle Challenger happened. And then on January twenty
ninth did Sarah Martisco at the cal Palace. I saw
Rush again and they did a tribute.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
To the Space Challenge Challenger.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
They did countdown from signals awesome man have an elementary
school right around, right right around the corner.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
From me, dedicated to Christy McCalla, the teacher there.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Oh awesome man Austin.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
And then on victor At twenty second, nineteen eighty six,
Ozzy Osborn's Ultimate Sin was released, and then on March third,
nineteen eighty six, metallicas Master of Puppets. April seventh, Judas
Priest Turbo was released. April twenty sixth, the Chernerbyl nuclear
disaster in the Soviet Union happened, which technically was a Ukraine,
(40:36):
which is a mind fuck, but anyway, that's another start
for another day. On July seventh of nineteen eighty six,
David Lee, Ross Eden and Smile was released. Oh yeah album, Yeah,
Oh absolutely ray.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I saw that tour on I saw that tour on
December twelfth of nineteen eighty six at the cow Poules.
Yes there, yes there, yes there.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
And then second of nineteen eighty six, The Damie Benson
Invason Gang released their debut record, So that was fun
and then reviewed, which we reviewed. So next weekend, yes
we did very good. Uh, thank you sink it's down.
But and then the next three here's the deal. All
(41:19):
these dates that you get from looking up the shit
on the internet, who fucking notes, and here's the deal.
So on September twenty fourth it says that Rass Dancing
under Cover came out, came out, And then on September
twenty fifth it says Mega Death Pace Cells, but Who's
Buying came out?
Speaker 2 (41:35):
And then on September twenty ninth it says Iron Made
Summer in Time. So whatever.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
So those are three awesome records. So then last, but
not least two more. On October seventh, Slayer, Rain and
Blood was released. Wow yeah, and ain't closing. On November
twenty second, nineteen eight, sixty year of our Lord, Mike
(42:03):
Tyson becomes the youngest Everyway champion ever at twenty years old,
and he kicked the ship out of a man called
Trevor Perfect.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
They go, hell yeah, man, wow, man, what a year
manneteen Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yes, sir, brother dear. How lucky were we to live
that year? Man?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Holy shit, absolutely brother, absolutely yeah, right on there, And
thanks for reminding me, man, I would have forgotten.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Hell yeah, man, Hey, that's that's what good co hosts do.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Many Sarah back, he turned up.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Man, They don't. They don't fucking talk shit about each other.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
There go, there, you go, there you go the.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Hell yeah, man, it's away. They've got anything else name.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I think I'm gone. I'm done, brother, I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
I'm done to man. It's been one hell of a week. Man,
I've been a dude. I called you during the week.
I said, Man, I don't know if I'm gonna be
ready for this. I was so fucking slammed. But we
did it, man, we did it. We got it done.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Man, fucking page for professionals.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Professional Hell yeah. Man.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
All right, then, so that wraps up another edition of
the Sinking Way Show.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
We'll see you next time, bail. This has been a
Think Army production.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Bam.
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