The Cure - Wish (Album Review) w/Vincent Cabagnot - The Syncin' Wang Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Year, Welcome to a night of music and despair.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's taking a year to make it over a year
because we started the year it was November ninety. Yeah,
that's in real terms, it's probably taken less than six
months to make, and we've recorded two albums effectively six months. Lyrically,

(01:10):
there certainly isn't any kind of theme running through the record.
It's very diverse. It's everything from popul love songs to
and introspective songs about depression and loss. And the most
immediate thing about it is that there is a lot
more guitar playing on it, mainly because Teddy's joined and

(01:36):
replaced a keybod player who couldn't play a guitar, and
he's actually a guitarist.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
He can played keyboards, So the.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Emphasis has shifted quite radically than any group. The most
obvious development on this record anything we've done before, I
suppose it would be the playing side of it. I
think that the overall sound of the group is much
more evident. It sounds like us on stage and sounds
maybe less, I don't know, kind of cultured. I suppose

(02:02):
a bit freer, a bit wilder, which is more like
we are.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
No what I'm doing really.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Soon night.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I've had difficult to explain you Friday. I mean that
actually the notion of Friday night exists with within the band.
It's just like from days when everyone but me worked,
and then it's like, as everyone works me Friday nights,
it's the end of the working weeks, I think. And
I was just using that as the idea that you
might reach a point, you know, as much as you

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feel on a Friday night when you think, well, I'm
going to forget all my worries and just enjoying myself.
And it was that, and it was the trying to
capture that in the song. So it's pretty dumb and
the lyric to it, but sort of effective and annoyed
for the way. I didn't think i'd be able to
get away with actually, to be honest, when I first

(03:14):
wrote that, I thought, how am I going to sing this?
But we had a party in the studio and I
sang it and it felt very natural and it sounded
good the next day, so it stayed.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Recently, I've been obsessed with the cure and so tonight
I'm gonna attempt to do any Robert Smith influenced makeup,
and here.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Come I'm much better than that.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
They've never done anything. The fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I should be king.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Hot, I'm getting hotter.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Sinking Stanley here, no wait here, and it's time for

(04:51):
another episode of the Sinking Wag Show.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Hey Wag, how you doing?

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Man?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Do good? My brother? Do good?

Speaker 7 (05:00):
Man?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
All good? Here in downtown San Francisco.

Speaker 8 (05:03):
Hey brother, why don't you tell us all who the
famous guest is tonight?

Speaker 9 (05:06):
Brother?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Oh man, it's about time we got my brother from
another mother. Mister Vincent pavinaw Man, Hey, Vincent, how you doing?

Speaker 5 (05:19):
How my guys doing here today?

Speaker 9 (05:21):
Oh man, we're doing awesome. Man. We're gonna talk about the.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Cure Ah the band I love.

Speaker 9 (05:27):
Hell yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Let me let me let me say man, this is Vincent.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Man.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
This is my buddy that I met in a finally
met in person in in Nashville rocking pod a few
years back, and uh, we've been tight as hell ever since. Man,
we're like the best of friends. This guy taught me
how to do all my memes and ship? How did?

Speaker 9 (05:47):
How did? How did had a photoshop? Correctly? Basically?

Speaker 5 (05:52):
That's more to do too, to do?

Speaker 9 (05:55):
Oh yeah, we gotta get back on it.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Man, I get kind of lazy, man now that I'm
doing this show, this show, this show man, this, this
show is so awesome, man, at least at least on
our show Man. All all all the all the artwork
and editing and graphics are done by by myself, so
you know it's cool. So you know, I don't I
don't rely on other people's memes and ship you know

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what I'm saying. But anyway, but anyway, so Vincent Man,
what you got to say?

Speaker 9 (06:24):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Man, Oh, I don't know where to start.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Man, there's so much to talk about when you're talking
about the Cure and what that band means to so
many people, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, yeah, Well we're gonna get into it in a
little bit. But first, uh, Wang's gonna go over the
stats man and of the album. Wang Man, why don't.

Speaker 9 (06:43):
You hit us with what we're gonna go over?

Speaker 8 (06:46):
Yeah, man, and yeah, I'm definitely gonna give you the
stats and whatnot. But there's a ship ton of shit
I want to ask that motherfucker because.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Dude, do it right now. Man, let's get on with it.

Speaker 8 (06:59):
Tear like me, I got some questions I'm gonna ask,
and they're gonna be very thought provoking and awesome.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
But until then, here's the.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
Stats, all right, And before I get into the stats,
I want to acknowledge that the last episode, the Kiss
Animalized episode, I fucked up. I said, even though if
you watch it, I was kind of even though I said,
I could be wrong. I said that Jeff Scott Soto
was the vocalist on the nineteen eighty six Vey Joy

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Momstein album trilogy. I was incorrect, and I wasn't sure myself.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
It was Mark Bowles.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
And so there's that singing. Stanley was correct, you said, no,
I do, I do, I do. I'm the one thing
about dates and shit, so I cannot be incorrect when
I'm fucking. When I'm incorrect, I fucking rectifendia.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's only Vay maybe have like fifty million Vocalistthniow, who
give the fuck dots? I know he's trying to sing,
so it's a big cluster fuck, but hey, whatever, continue.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, one more thing, uh, the Kiss Thrills of the
Night single.

Speaker 8 (08:04):
I said it was released in nineteen eighty four, seven
months before or eight months before the album came out.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I was wrong. It was nineteen eighty five, but another thing.

Speaker 8 (08:12):
A little side note, January thirteenth of nineteen eighty five
with a Sunday was a Sunday.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
So man, all these dates.

Speaker 8 (08:19):
I thought all the records came out on Tuesdays back
in the day. But anyways, that said neither here or
I are there, So all right, man. So the care
Wish Amazing album, just in case you were wondering. It
came out on April twenty first, nineteen ninety two, on
Robert Smith's thirty third birthday. It was on Electra Records

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in the United States of America, all three of our
countries and Fiction in the United Kingdom and went the
number two on the Billboard two hundred charts. It's obviously
gone platinum, if not way more. It was recorded in
the Manor Studio in England. It was produced once again
by David m Allen and of course the incomparable Robert Smith.

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The band Uh it was obviously that recorded the album.
Obviously Robert Smith's vocal guitar Perry Bamonti, which his first
time on the record. It was keyboards and rhythm guitar
Pearl Thompson. The Amazing Pearl Thompson was guitarist Simon Gallup
the most underrated bass player in rock history on bass.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh let me stop you right there, Simon Gallup. Simon
Gallup is a huge Iron Maiden fan. You gotta know that, right.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
You told me that I did not. I did not
know that.

Speaker 9 (09:33):
How I did not huge main fan. Man got a
video running.

Speaker 8 (09:38):
Breeze and then and then Boris Williams concourse of his
final album on Trumps. I saw that tour and see
can count put the kicking stuff up on Saturday July fourth,
the Year of Our Lord, nineteen ninety two at Spartan
Stadium in San Jose, California. And that's a little tidbit

(10:02):
of that. And uh yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
So I got it. I have so many questions for
Vincent it's crazy. You know.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
I got my ticket stuff right here.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Oh look at that awesome wow too.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
So you saw them before me by a couple of days.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
I saw them on July twenty three and ninety two
for this tour, right right right.

Speaker 8 (10:22):
And I know we could go on over and over
and over, but real fast. So but from my memory
because you and me used to trade Texas years ago
with our cure tickets and everything. And then when this
book came out, you and you were talking about whatnot,
and I have a question about him.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
When we come up to it. But didn't you see
kiss Me, kiss Me Tour?

Speaker 9 (10:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:43):
I actually have that ticket here too, so you beat me, you.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Beat But here's my question. Was that the first time
you saw the Cure?

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay, so you got me seven. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:54):
I saw the Cure for the first time with my
beloved Loris Sue Rest your Soul on September second, said
Mber tenth, nineteen eighty nine, that Disintegration tour. So yeah,
I was always I remember that from years ago. You
saw kiss Me kiss Me. That's so fucking bad ass,
so so cool, so so much to say, so much
love that to cure. Me and Vincent are authentic friends

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and we fans.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
And friends obviously. So all right, So a couple of
pop culture questions.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
You guys ready, hell yeah, that's all right, go ahead, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Go okay. Cool.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
So I usually always ask Sink and Stanley, what like
the song or whatever? But can you guys tell me
the number one movie on the date that this was
released April twenty first, nineteen ninety two, the year of
Our Lord, what was the number one movie on that day.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
You guys know, that's a good question, Thank you. Ninety two.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
I was watching all these crazy cyberpunk movies back to.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Vincent.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
That's a good one, since I'd probably go with that
for Terminator too.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
The number one movie was Basic Instinct.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
Oh oh, yes, the next one seeing it?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Stanley loves to guess this one alive.

Speaker 8 (12:16):
What was the number one television show on April twenty first,
nineteen ninety two day Year of our long.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Friends.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, I think I've started in ninety four. No Vincent
Cosby show Now that was the last event. No Rose
Rosetne Oh god, yeah, okay?

Speaker 8 (12:38):
And the number We're gonna do the song last? What
was the number one album on this brilliant album with
this album isn't brilliant? That was number one? But basically
block a Cure from being number one? What was the
number one album and the date that the Cure.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Album came out?

Speaker 8 (12:58):
The song that Temple Tops down nineteen eighty nine?

Speaker 9 (13:03):
Oh whatever?

Speaker 5 (13:06):
It was a deaf leopard?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Ah, they're gonna lie correct, all right? Did it?

Speaker 6 (13:12):
Was?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Last?

Speaker 3 (13:14):
But they actually had a number one album after Hysteria, It.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Sure as fuck was. Unfortunately he was torific.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
That the one was let's yet, Let's ship, Let's get.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Basically I got all right.

Speaker 8 (13:30):
So what was the number one song on the date
of April twenty first, nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 10 (13:39):
I don't know, man, Vincent long song, I don't know,
co coun by Criss Cross, Down Down by Chris jump.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Job, Yeah, which with their backwards dancing.

Speaker 8 (13:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah long time ago interview and Vincent, are.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
You a sports fan?

Speaker 5 (14:02):
I'm a sports guy. I'm a computer nerd.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I well, then you and thinking Sam, No one of
you guys get along so well because I am addict.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I mean.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
So. The NBA chants of the nineteen ninety one ninety
two season were Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls.

Speaker 9 (14:24):
I remember that.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
They Yeah, you be decent when it comes to sports
memories and whatever. The ninth the Super Bowl champs of
the nineteen ninety two season were the Dallas Cowboys, the.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
World Series champs were the Toronto Blue Jays, and the
Stanley Cup champs were the Pittsburgh Penguin.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
They go cool, all right, yeah, fucking cool.

Speaker 8 (14:51):
I got all sorts of other ship that I'll be
talking about world events and everything, but we'll get.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
To that bringing up, bringing up. All right, man, so
you guys want to get into this album? What the
fuck you ready? You ready?

Speaker 9 (15:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I brought up my CDs and my singles because I
have all of it from that era.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
I have, like even the B sides and the rare shit.
I have all of it.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
It's crazy.

Speaker 9 (15:19):
All right.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Well, I'm gonna start it off because I'm gonna be
short and sweet, because I'm gonna let you two gush
over this. So so I'll go first. We'll let Vincent
go second, and Wang you can come in and wrap
it up on each of these tracks, all right, right
on im number one open? Wow, man, I actually love
that droning guitar lick man. It's it's a moody song.

(15:43):
I kind of dig it man, and and and I
don't I've never heard this album. I'm gonna be honest,
I've never heard this album other than than that big
hit Friday I'm in Love. So I mean, I'm not
a huge Cure fan. I'm casual, so yeah, oping, man,
I kind of dig it.

Speaker 9 (16:01):
Vincent.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Well, the whole thing about that song that I really love.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Is how it builds, it starts and it unfolds with
that guitar lick and you have the bass playing in
the high register bringing you in. But then when he
slams and the main part of the song comes in,
it's just heavy bass. It's like kicking your stereo who
up off the floor, and it's it's just.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
The layering that they do.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
That's you know, they know how to put everything in
the right place and they don't overplay or underplay. And
that's that's what some people get confused about with musicianship
and who plays an instrument.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
It's like everyone thinks there's a group. There's a lot
of people who think you have to play a million
notes to be good and talented.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
But it's also what you don't play and how you
let things breathe that show you how to make a
song up.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
You know, function and sound.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
You know, to build mood and if anything, this album
definitely builds multiple mood.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's with it hell yeah, yeah, wag.

Speaker 9 (17:04):
What do you think of open.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
The songs about? This is my interpretation with little a
little bit of research.

Speaker 8 (17:12):
As far as with the meanings of the Song's about
being an alcoholic, recognizing some of your.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Vices, doing drugs, feeling.

Speaker 8 (17:20):
Uncomfortable at a party, got a party vibe to it.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's a fucking brilliant opener. I absolutely adore it, and
I give it five out of five chopsticks.

Speaker 9 (17:31):
Hell yeah, awesome, man, awesome.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I definitely give it five chopsticks too. The thing is,
when this album came out at the time, I mean,
I'm not going to get all personal because like my
life at the time like totally encapsulated.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
A lot of shit on this album, especially that I was,
you know, a club promoter.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I was going to clubs, I was playing in bands,
and I was out like five nights a week getting
drunk out of my ass.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
So this song sums.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Up exactly how it was feeling at the time it
came out. So it was just like, holy crap. It's
like it's like my fucking life in the song. But
you know those are all you know, you have all
those experiences, and you know, it's fun to look back.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
On our life for vin.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
All right, man, Track number two, Hi, I got two
words for this.

Speaker 9 (18:25):
I'm sorry, guys, but it's boring and and mint for me.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Man, Yeah yeah they did. They didn't hook me in
on the second song, so uh, Vincent, go ahead, man,
tell me what I'm missing about High.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Well, it's part of the charm that makes the cure
of the cure is that, you know, everybody would say, oh,
he's MOPy, depressing, gloomy, and then he comes out with
something uplifting, positive, and then.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
It's really good as it is.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
So some people don't get the band because there's that contrast,
but that's how he plays everything.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
So with High, I mean, you've got all this great
guitar work, this beautiful bassline that's going through it, and
this uplifting thing. And one thing he said about this
album was that it didn't have a continual theme going
through it like Disintegration did. He said that he'd liked
these songs to like sort of challenge you. Like, everything

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was a new type of experience as you went through
the album, everything was.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Like a different layer. So I like High, but it's
not really like one of my favorites.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
I tend to go more towards the goth side and
darker stuff to get my jolly's But you know, hey,
it gets the cute girls.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Dancing on the dance floor.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
At the time, I wasn't complaining, So it's fun if
you really want that pop feel I like heavier stuff,
but that's it gets good. It's not one of my
big favorites, but I still I still dig it.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
It's my chance to go get a drink.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, all right, wag What do you think the High?

Speaker 8 (20:10):
I mean, it's it's just I know this is still simple,
but it makes me feel like I'm floating for some reason,
there's a I just it's a flow. I feel like
I'm floating above the clouds, smoking pot and everything.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
But the uh.

Speaker 8 (20:25):
In an interview, Robert Smith said it was about his
relationship with Cure fans, and I absolutely you know this
is gonna be a common theme throughout. You know, I'm
such a big Simon Gallupp, but Diamond Gallup's bass sound
here is so great and he's so integrated and when
you hear it, you know it's him. I like this

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song and I'm gonna give up four to five chap shish.

Speaker 9 (20:51):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
One one more thing with this.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
The video high is kind of you know, that whole
outlandish thing of him up in the clouds, and it
was done with Tim Pope, who did a lot of
their classic videos.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
And I think this is.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, But Robert Smith wasn't really too happy with this
video when it came out, because he's once he saw
himself on the kite and all that. He was just like,
uh so he had some comments about that like that,
he wasn't exactly pleased, but he still liked the video overall.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
From from a couple of interviews, I saw, yeah he's got.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Cut his hair. That's true.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right man. Track number three Apart Again,
Like I said, this is my first time here in
this album, so you know, I didn't dive into the
lyrics like you guys. You know, I just I was
mainly listening to the music to see if it caught me.
And this one, this one caught me, man a little bit.

Speaker 9 (21:54):
This is I like this.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I like I like how it's slow but has that
nice progressive bassline. It's got a cool ambient feel, and
I dig the moody eerie guitar solo.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
Man.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
So yeah, Part apart was pretty cool man for me.
Sinson tell us about.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
A part Definitely a song that's really deep with emotion
and you know realize, you know, break it's a breakup song.
It's it's like, you know, you're going through some heavy
stuff and you're realizing how how tough it is when
when relationships don't work. But the way this song another one,
the way it builds, it's almost like being brought into

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a pool of water, just like how it immerses you
into it. And then you know, the guitar tone and
the guitar sounds are just you know, you know, the
way he uses the guitar. It's like a lot of
people think it's a guitar, but it's not a guitar.
It's actually a six string bass called you know, the
Fender six and.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
It's it's bass.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
So a lot of those bell chiny tone are it's
actually a bass he's playing and not a guitar.

Speaker 9 (23:03):
You're talking about Robert Smith.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah, oh really, Yeah, in some of.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
The tongs you're using a guitar.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
A lot of the songs he switches between it. But
this one you can tell. It's sad, there's there's there's
the the.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Chiny town tone to it that it has. It's it's beefier.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
It's almost like piano like with with some of those
guitar tones, because you can hear that in those guitar lines,
like of the sort of solo part of the song.
So it's a very deep song. I love this song.
I definitely give it a ten. You know, it's it's
a very heavy hearted song, but it's it's dynamite.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
I think it's great.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Cool man, Wang, what do you think of a part?

Speaker 8 (23:45):
Well said, by the way, Vincent, Just the dirgy aspect
to the keyboards are so dense and eerie.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
It's so it's such a depressing and sad song.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
And speaking of lyrics, these are and just while I'm
I'm not gonna sing like Robert Smith, but just picture
in the background that.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
That bass that Simon's doing.

Speaker 8 (24:03):
He waits for her to understand, but she won't understand
at all. She waits all night for him to call,
but he won't call anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Five out of five toxics.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
All right, cool, all right?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Anybody else got anything to say about a part.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
That's just a deep one that one hits hard, Well.

Speaker 9 (24:28):
We'll talking about we're talking about deep.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Let's go into track number four from the Edge of
the Deep Green Sea. Oh, man, this song does nothing
for me until the end. Until the end, I'm gonna say, Man,
the end, the guitar sounds like it's washing out to
sea in like foamy waves or something. Man, that.

Speaker 9 (24:51):
I will say that.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Man, it's got a really it really sounds like you know,
you're you're listening to the ocean when listening to this song.
That's all I can say, man, other than that it
doesn't do much for me. It's a dive into that
deep cream sme. Bro tell me all about it, Elizabeth.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
I'm coming to join you, honey, this story.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
I gotta be honest, Bro, hold on the Lixus fractious.
We'll do the next pentangle off them.

Speaker 11 (25:21):
Come on, guys, Oh right, yeah, I tell me all
about the deep Cream scenes.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Man, this song is amazing.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
I mean, how do you get a song that you're
basically watching a breakup happen and the girl commits.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Suicide in front of you? I mean, did you hear
the lyric in the song?

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I'm just trying to get through the music.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Bro, I told you, he says, just as I'm breaking free,
she hangs herself in front of me. You know, it's
just it's just fucked up, and it's you know, it's
it's it's like poachry. It's poetry, so it's just figuratively,
but it's it's still like, you know, being involved with
somebody it's fucked up and you finally take a stand

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to get yourself out of the relationship and.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
She kills herself. So that's what the song is. So
it's heavy, dude, But I'm sorry I missed that, man.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yeah, it's just you know, too many times, too many
years I've cried for you, and that it's just like
the person's giving up with the relationship and then walks
away and she kills herself.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
So you know, it's it's they don't they're not trying
to get people to do it. It's just like that's
what it feels.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
It's like when you break up with something really fucked
up and it just gets you right through the heart.
And he nails it. And the guitar solo is Robert Smith,
and I love that fucking solo. That solo sounds like
a damn rocket shooting off into fucking space and just
it just swirls around with the REAVERB and the flanger
and the phasing that he has all mixed in there

(27:05):
and it all works, and it's kind of like it
almost like.

Speaker 9 (27:09):
Did he use a Leslie speaker or something man to
get that swish its out?

Speaker 5 (27:14):
No, I knew he used a lot of it's funny.
He uses a lot of boss effects.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
And a lot of Roland dance. I think at the
time they were using the Roland and my guitar teacher
had that one the anto the jazz chorus you see
them behind Roland JC went twenties and so that's why
they always have that deep chorus, y lush sound.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
But I know that one was special.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
That one was was him doing the solo, and I
forget why that he took the solo and Mike did it, but.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
I think it was just his expression because you know,
CHORL don't fuck around either. Chorol is amazing. But this,
this song's at ten.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
This is like the song that like gets the real
fans up and up and lit at the shows, like
when this one comes on, because it's another one that
has that slow build and then it just kicks in.
But man, like this is one. This is like an anthem.
There's actually an anthem secure fans if you know you know.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
So it's a deep song. I give it a I'd
give it a ten and right off the right off
the chart.

Speaker 9 (28:21):
Ten to me, Wow, Wang Wang wang? Does this song
get you in too?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Fuck it? It's goosebump brilliant.

Speaker 8 (28:29):
Anybody says other wise, sh be shocked, that's sad, sick,
And I mean, what are Nator song great prog luck,
great proglum. There's some prog elements.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Here to deny that sort of get you.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's about a very painful romance. And then when he.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
Screens put your hands in the sky man, you can
just feel the emotion and.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's goosebump brilliant and uh I give it five out
of five Top day.

Speaker 9 (29:01):
Hell yeah, alright.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
It's also like, you know, giving yourself the courage to
walk away from a bad relationship. So that's like what
really universally communicates because you know, you can think about
those things when when you hear the song and it
rolls off your back, it gets out of your body.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
It doesn't let you feel sunk.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
So you know, people would say, like the goth culture
and the goth crowds are all like miserable and depressed.
But this is like a release, just like a mosh
pit is a release for a metal head.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
This is where you get it, this is where it
goes for us.

Speaker 9 (29:33):
Cool all right.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Number five Wendy Wendy's Time is it time to go
get some hamburgers and world Wendy Time, Wendy Time, quirking
tune with the wah wah. Other than that, a man,
it goes nowhere for me, Vincent, please please man cool

(30:00):
me on this Windy Time.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
It's another type of quirky pop song about being with
a difficult person, but not somebody who's like breaking your heart. Really,
it's just about you know, I love how it's it's
all kind of quirky and snappy and poppy, but you're
you're basically still with somebody you shouldn't be with, and
you know the song, he realizes that, you know, she's

(30:24):
doing everything possible to please him, and he's just like, no,
you know, but I like I like the song because
it's a really clever take on it. It's it's sort
of like, you know, there's always romance songs, always love songs,
always break up songs, but it's kind of like who takes.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
The perspective of, like, you know, when you got.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Somebody really trying everything to like make you happy, and
then you're kind of just like the sinc for me,
and like a lot of people aren't brave enough to
make a song that would do that, so it's kind
of cute. They did it in a quirky way that
kind of like you were saying with waw snapping, it's
it's it's a very kind of little humorous take, but

(31:04):
it's also still part of his uh you know, how
do you say when he gets serious, like he's it's
still serious even though it's kind of quirky.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
So, you know, i'd give it a four out of five.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
I would say that it's, you know, not not the
biggest favorite, but I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
All right, Wegg, what do you think of Wendy's Yeah,
well said Jason to me to me, and it is.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
My own interpretation listening to this records, and basically it
came out it.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Sounds like he's talking about Hooper man.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
I don't know, just he's talking about a bacon eator man.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
And it could have came off kiss me, kiss me,
kissed me, and from from my ears it's it.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah, I agree, I agree it could have been that,
you know, but this is also the time in the
career when he was kind of like he always had
these phases where he wanted.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
To quit the band and end the band, but then
like he.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Loves playing, and then he hated feeling like he's this,
you know, big god to everybody because everybody's got the
crazy amounts of hero worship for him. So he was
kind of just frustrated with the whole celebrity element of
being a rock star. So that's you can that's part
of probably why this lyric is what it is. It's like,

(32:26):
don't worship me, like you know, I'm a big god.
I'm just a guy making music. So you can see
that in this song.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
A few others ac yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
All right, all right, moving on to track number six,
doing the Unstuck. Let's get happy, really happy. No no, no,
we're not happy yet. We're not happy, man, No, this
does nothing for me. I'm not happy. Vincent, make me happy?

Speaker 9 (33:01):
Man?

Speaker 3 (33:01):
What am I missing about? Doing the other top?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
This is another clear sign of the punk sensibility of
the Cure coming out, because he's talking about his reflection
of the world where like everybody's ridiculously happy and like
why do you got to be a freaking cheerleader? Twenty
four to seven, Like the whole song is like, you know,

(33:26):
fuck everything song. This song is basically a throwing your
hands up in the air. And frustration. So I appreciate
it lyrically. It's not like a song I'd listen to
over and over, but it is a reflection of the
punk attitude where you're basically not accepting what everything in
society is trying to tell you what to like, what
to enjoy. You know, get be happy, be all, enjoy

(33:47):
everything you know by this, by that, it's just like
fuck all of this, Like that's that's the whole take
I get from this song. It's just like, you know,
it's a way of look just a way of looking
at the world that's that's not falling in line with
everybody's expectations.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
So another one. I'd give another four out of five.

Speaker 9 (34:11):
Cool, cool way. What do you think about doing the unstuck?

Speaker 1 (34:17):
It's an uplifting, fun song.

Speaker 8 (34:20):
Great clan by the band and my interpretation songs about
how it's never too late to free yourself from fixed
ideas and getting out of a rut.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
I like this song and I'm will Vincent four and
five chopsits by by.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Bout Hell Yeah all Right. Finally finally number seven Friday,
I'm in Love. I fucking love this song, man, I
love this song.

Speaker 8 (34:48):
Man.

Speaker 9 (34:48):
It's a fucking It's the.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Perfect pop song.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
I love it, but mostly from a nostalgic point of view.

Speaker 9 (34:56):
It's just a.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Fun song, man, And you and when he goes, oh,
you know what I'm talking about that, dude, You know
this is just a great It's just a fun pop song, man,
And I'm a sucker for that. I don't care, man,
I don't care about all these other people man out

(35:19):
there saying the cure is gay and all this shit.
You know, fuck those motherfuckers. Man, who cares? Man?

Speaker 9 (35:25):
This ship is awesome.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Man.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I mean, I honestly wish we would have said another
album because I wanted to give more in Love because
there's a lot of other Tears songs I like on
other albums.

Speaker 9 (35:37):
But but man, but.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
One thing about Michael Smith, Man, the motherfucker can write
a killer pop song. Mannus it. Man, all right, I'm sorry,
Rover Smith. I'm like, we're not talking about strappers, Damn No,
Robert Smith can write one hell of a pop song man.
And and this is proof in the pudding right here. Yeah, vinces, man,

(36:02):
tell me about how much you uh you love Friday.

Speaker 9 (36:05):
I'm in love.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
I love it for the fun factor. It's absolutely a
fun pop song. It's absolutely uh effervescent. It's it's definitely
a song where like, uh, it's become a classic now.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
You know it's already you know, you already had the
proof from.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
The kiss Me album that he could write a great
pop song, and like again, he's proving himself here that
he could make something exciting, fun that we're gonna be
talking about for decades still because it's it's still it's
still in radio play, it's still they're still making memes
over it.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
It's it's a fun song.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
But it's what's really funny is that I know people
who've been Cure fans that basically did a one eighty
on the band for a while when they they heard
this song because it was too pop for them.

Speaker 9 (36:52):
Yeah, man, was wasn't it even in a commercial? Or
am I wrong? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:56):
It wouldn't be surprised yet they probably we have. It's
it's just so fun.

Speaker 9 (37:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
The one thing too, is we played the song when
I was in the tribute band for the Cure, and
it's hard to get this song right live because there's
all these guitar layers. You think there's like maybe one
or two guitars, but there's like four or five going
on in.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
There, and it's deceptive.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
It's like it's simple, but it's deceptive, Like that intro part,
it's like at.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Yeah, they did a bunch.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Of different things, but it's not it's not a song
you can like you can if you want to play
this live and make it sound like them, you need
you need more people playing guitars on it, because it's
it's a lot of work, but it's like, uh, if
you break it apart, it's all these little parts.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
But yeah, I love the song. I think I think
it's a fun song.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
It kind of makes me me laugh in a way
that like here he goes again, proving the pop sensibility.

Speaker 9 (37:53):
It's like and he does it.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
It's I wonder, I wonder this is off this is
off seven, But I wonder what year that R. E.
M song came out, you know, the Losing My Religion song.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
Losing My Erection?

Speaker 9 (38:10):
Did he this?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
This song kind of has that vibe with the mandolin,
but it's much more poppy and much more happy and
a fat but I don't know, maybe I don't know,
kind of kind of off track there musically musically with
the kind of mandolin. The tempo it kind of you know,

(38:35):
kind of has that vibe to it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
I mean the mandolin came back with with with in
a couple of pop songs, you know, because of R. E. M.
I think, But that's probably the only tie to it.
But it's it's a whole bunch of guitars going on
in that song. And it might it might sound like
a single line, but it's a bunch of stuff happening.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
So it's uh, it's well.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Crafted, as I'll give it, so I'll get give it
a five out of five.

Speaker 9 (39:01):
Hell yeah, Wang, what do you think of this pop masterpiece?

Speaker 8 (39:05):
Before I get to that pop masterpiece, you were talking
about gay and everything. Well, Robert Smith met his wife
in nineteen seventy three in drama class at fourteen years old.
Her name is Mary Pool and they got married in
nineteen eighty eight, So.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
So much for that.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
Anyways, before I get to this great pop song, I
want to ask Vincent a couple of songs. Okay, a
couple of questions if you don't mind.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Brother, Oh always.

Speaker 8 (39:32):
Yeah, just real fast. You don't have to go really
into it, but I wanna just real fast. I'm gonna
ask you, in chronological order, what you think. No, quickly,
I was gonna say one word, but it's unfair. So
I'm gonna bring up all the albums of The Cure
and start with nineteen seventy nine's Three Imaginary Boys.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
What's your quick synopsis of that?

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Oh yeah, that's that's still the Foundling era when they
were still getting their stuff together, and I love it
because it's the simplicity, and those songs are still really memorable,
Like just how the the band was a three piece
and you had all these tight hooky parts, you know,

(40:16):
stuff like I think accuracies.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
On that album.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, memorable, memorable stuff that was very controversial. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah that song. Yeah, we used to play that one too,
But yeah, it's it's great stuff because they were ahead
of their time and they were being atmospheric with very little,

(40:42):
uh the production simple, the it was just very raw
and it was very effective and you already saw like
they already had a strong foundation in creating hooky pop,
but they were also still that you know, punk sensibility.
They're not conforming to all the stuff that was going
on in the world right then and there in music,

(41:05):
you know, because they came from Crawley and they were
part of the punk scene, so they were still developing,
but they didn't.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Give a shit. They were just plowing forward with what
they were doing. So I love that record.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
All right nineteen eighties, which basically started the trilogy as
far as I'm concerned as where they started to really
get their sound.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Nineteen eighties seventeen.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Seconds, well seventeen seconds. They had the different keyboard player
playing with them.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
He caused them some issue because he wanted to do
other stuff. But I think this was when Robert Smith
was starting to get his vision and hold on to it.
You had the forest on there, you had atmospheric stuff
like m at Night. Basically the whole vibe of the
Cure was really gelling right here. And you know that

(42:00):
album was was was I think when they really cemented
their identity. And then you had Simon Gallup in there,
who was killing it on bass.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
I mean, oh my god, you know.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
He probably could write them in there because he was
he was still good in Yours Young, but.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
She had nineteen one's faith.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Oh my goodness, that's a deep album for me too.
That's I think they reached it. One of their peaks
of atmospheric sound, and they were the three piece there with.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Loll and Uh, Simon and Uh.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
They had great stuff in there, like Primary where they
they had two basses playing at the same time without guitars,
like the Roberts playing bass and Simon's playing bass.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Uh love that record. Deep immersive, Yuh.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
The poetic aspect of the songwriting is dynamite in there.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Yeah. Faith is one of my favorites. Faith's one of
my absolute favorites of them.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
I got the deluxe edition with all like the extra
B sides and the demos.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
It's really excellent, awesome, and then we go next is
the blueprint for Suicide nineteen eighty two's pornography.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Oh yeah, I've heard podcasts about this before with people
who didn't know what the fuck they were talking about
and who didn't know what the damn lyrics meant in anything.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Oh yeah, I heard.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Something once about some stuff with this, But pornography is
basically the wrist cutter for the for.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
The Cure albums.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I mean, I love the album, it's just something it's
really hard for me to listen to sometimes because it's
really dark and it's really the depths of where you
go when you're.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
Really into.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Really deep emotion and like, you know, the heaviness of it.
So pornography is just a to me, it's excellent, but
it's also written doing very difficult time in their lives.
So I understand why it's emotionally a battering ram.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
But if you don't understand it, if you're too stupid to.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Understand how these lyrics work and how he's reflecting about experiences.
There's that part where he says, we never talk, you
never smile. I scream you're nothing. I don't need you anymore.
You're nothing, And he says, I walked away and grew old.
In the morning, I cried. It's not that they had

(44:30):
sex at night, and he cried in the morning like
a fucking moron. Once said, he's reflecting on all these
experiences in his life and she's gone, and it's gone.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
It's over, and he's looking at it. So if you
don't understand the lyrics, it doesn't hit us hard.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
But most people who don't understand the band itself, they
want to.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Do some stupid interpretation.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
They don't want to know what it really means, and
they don't understand Robert Smith's background in literature and poetry
and stuff.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
He's he's read because it's not about his life.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
In some songs it's about He's even said he's watched
soap operas to get ideas, so he's not living a
miserable life. When people do those dumb memes, though you got.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
Depression because you listen to the Cure.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
It's like, no, he writes about it as an observant.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
He's very happy in his life. It's just.

Speaker 8 (45:27):
I'm gonna get speed up because I know sinking' Saanley's
fucking chopping up the bits.

Speaker 9 (45:35):
He's not very interesting, and keep going.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I'm going all right, all right, and then then next
you know.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
Basically, I was going to focus on just the discography
of the Maine albums, but there's two. They have a
lot of compilations, but there's two compilations, in particular the
very very important History of the Cure. So on December sixteenth,
nineteen eighty three, a total about face from pornography and everything,
they released a combination called Japanese Whispers, and it had

(46:03):
new songs and everything. I mean, total about these the pornography,
A couple of words about that, if you don't mind Nancy.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Oh my god, I love that. I love that one too.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
It's it's also a return to like the stuff they
were doing, a positive, a positive pop again. You know
when you hear Japanese whispers and you hear that the
keyboard parts and stuff, it's light again, it's happy again.
It's like uplifting again, and it's it's fun again. Because
he was he was back into playing. He got what

(46:34):
he didn't want to go down the road he was
going because you know, they were in their twenties, like
I think Simon was twenty three or something, twenties, and
they were already like not having any huh.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Robert was born in fifty nine. So yeah, there helly Young's.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
Fuck yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
So they came back to enjoying what they were doing again,
and they kind of took a break and got away
from all the dark shit. So uh, I love Japanese whispers.
That's that's a that's a fun one.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Awesome, awesome, very cool, brother man.

Speaker 8 (47:06):
And then the next one, there's all sorts of confliction,
all sorts of debate and everything. The nineteen eighty four
the top. What's your take on that, brother man. I'm
very curious to hear what you think about it.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Oh, The Top is another one with a lot of great, great,
good and bad memories for me. There's there's a you know,
they had a different drummer in there. They had Andy Anderson,
who is a dynamite drummer.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
He's a brother, Yeah, right, right right, he's.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
A brother, and you can hear him in the song
shake Dog Shake like unload at the beginning, just and uh,
you know when they did that rock and roll Hall
of Fame thing, he had a message about Andy on
his guitar and they started with that and it's it's
just a freaking sex, drugs, freaking churning song. I fucking

(47:56):
love The Top, but you know I was. I was
a bad boy back there doing all sorts of naughty
things that I should shouldn't be doing, substance fun stuff,
and that album reminds me of those trips.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
There's some stuff on that record too where they had
Lawrence Tallhurst write some of the lyrics on there, and
they weren't exactly.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Happy with some of those lyrics.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
You know, this is when Lawrence was switching to keyboards
because he couldn't really do uh, he wasn't really like
the strongest drummer. We still did some iconic stuff, but
he just he knew his limitations and he moved on.
So The Cure was like in a different form, and
they didn't have Simon Gallup in this album. They had
Bill Thornolly, so it was a little different vibe.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
You know.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
That's when they have the caterpillars on this one, and
they also had the upright base and some of the things.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
They did some creative stuff here.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
But I love the top it's it's it's another wild
album of like, you know, unexpected stuff from them, and uh,
you know, it's it's definitely a top album for me.

Speaker 8 (48:55):
Absolutely massive psychedelia on here. And the song Banata Fish
that is like you could listen to that shit sober
as fuck and you feel like you were so tweaked
out on drugs and look it up all right.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
The next would be I mean, I was gonna include
this because I like it.

Speaker 8 (49:13):
A thing called It's an import called concert The Cure
Live October nineteen eighty four, is an import any Charlotte
sometimes the first time that appeared on an album, not
a single, but an album, correct.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Just any idea and comment on that album.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I love this album too because it's also it's live
and it's very raw, so you got to you got
to hear what they sounded like live, and you could
see even though they weren't really as atmospheric because they
could only do what they do live and they can't
do all those studio tricks and stuff, you see that
they're still immersive, they're still strong, powerful, and the drums
on this album is great. You know, you've got a

(49:53):
forest and ten fifteen Saturday Night and killing an Arab
at the end, so you know, it's it's basically all
the good cuts and including the Walk, which is another
fun song, definitely a fun one on the bass if
we played bass because it's an octave jump sits.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
It's a bunch of fun. But yeah, it's a great
live sounding album.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
It's a good one when they were in a really
good spot with really talented musicians.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Hell yeah, Vincent, how about nineteen eighty five's Head.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
On the Door, Head on the Door another And this
was actually the Head on the Doors like my introduction
to the band because I was going to clubs and
dance clubs and stiff stuff and I heard close to
me and I was like, Hey, what the hell is
that song?

Speaker 5 (50:38):
It's like, that's a that's a.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Fun little song, and like all the ladies came out
to dance to that one all the time. So I
was underage going to dance clubs dancing with thirty old
women offering the coke, and.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
I was like, hey, look at a fun song. I
like this. So I love Head on the Door. There's
some really great.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Songs on it, like sinking Kioto song with thinking, thinking, yeah, ah.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Fuck, it's a brilliant album.

Speaker 8 (51:08):
And Okay, I'm gonna skip the nineteen eighty six Standing
on the Beach album Staring at the CCD.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
I'm gonna go right to the and that album. I
went with Double Fider.

Speaker 8 (51:19):
I'm gonna go right to the nineteen eighty seven album.
The first time Vincent saw the brilliant band live kiss Me,
kiss Me, kiss Me.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Oh cow, what a freaking magnificent album. It's not only
just the whole varied, varied sound of that album with
the amount of cuts, there's just so many directions this
album goes into with like what they do, and it's
definitely a good first introduction to the Cure. But I

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saw this concert and I couldn't believe how fucking loud
they were. I was like walking out of Masons Square Garden,
like they're really this loud.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
I didn't. I thought they were gonna be like.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
A thing, but they hit you live like they were
really loud for this show. But the album I love
because it's very diverse.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
The first song is like the Crazy Song, and it's
just like you know, the lyrics in the Kiss, it's
just it's hilarious, but it's all sexual.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
So I'm into it.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Alright on, brother, right on, and uh hey, just real fast.

Speaker 8 (52:24):
And I was curious because you saw them the tour
before me. I did while doing extensive research. Was was
our boy and the touring lineup playing keyboards? Boh yes, okay, cool,
right on, right on, cool football all right. Then we're
gonna go to basically what made them Superstars nineteen eighty nine,

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Amazing Alum, Disintegration, Hell yeah, Fascination Street, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (52:54):
Yeah, I love that you.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Oh my gosh, that's that album is is an iconic,
one of the best albums of the eighties, and if
you're a musician, you appreciate it more. Even Rick Biato
did a really good thing talking about all the stuff
on Disintegration. So if you're a non musician, you don't
get it, and you probably start your videos saying I
don't get it.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
You know what I don't get? You know what I
don't get?

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Yeah, if you don't understand it, you know, it's just
that album is really deep and it's basically solidified like
their immersive sound. And I mean, what can you say
about Disintegration aside from its the best album on Earth?
You know, even South Park said that it's the best

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album ever.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
But I don't.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
I mean, we'd have to do a whole episode on
Disintegration if that's the case, because I mean I could
go to town on all the songs.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
We're gonna have to do that.

Speaker 8 (53:49):
Brother, I'm gonna skip wished we got coming up, so
then we're gonna go into tonight.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
So we only got a few more lefts you cant
found going to.

Speaker 8 (54:00):
Go into The nineteen ninety sixth album Wild Mood Swings.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
M Yeah, Wild Wild Mood Swings is really it's another
type of quirky album where they did some some pop
stuff like The thirteenth had actually those the single aird
the thirteenth on that had those Latin rhythms and stuff.
But I think there's a couple of great songs on that,
like Treasure, you know Bear and you Know They. It's

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a lot of the similar themes they've covered with Wish
there was a bit of refinement to some of the sound.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
But I love that album.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
It's another pivotal time in my life when I was
listening to it, so it has a lot of great
meaning to me. You know, Treasures is just I think
an amazing song that's on that record about somebody passing
away and realizing it.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
So I dealt with.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Something like that directly at the time, so it was
just like something that really cemented that song in my psyche.
But the album altogether is great. I still have all
the singles and all that stuff when that came out.
Very enjoyable album and there's a bit of fun for
everybody on that record.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Awesome.

Speaker 8 (55:14):
Then we go to two thousands, amazing, the best Cure
album since the new one in my opinion.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
Blood Flowers, Oh hell yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Blood Flowers is part of the trilogy with Disintegration, and
it's another immersive, incredibly sounding album.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
It's really funny looks.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
There's some Cure fans I know that really, you know,
hardcore fans that they're not as into it because you know,
they didn't they didn't really get into it like they
did Disintegration.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Like it's a.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Little bit difficult, a little bit different to get into.
Not difficult, but you know, again, the album deals with
a lot of.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Breakup relationship stuff and it's deep. It's really deep on
that one.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
And also, he was turning thirty nine, I think, so
he was realizing where his space was in life, and like,
you know, he was getting more and more a little
bit reflective of his existence in life, and you know,
it started to show in his songwriting, so he was
still taking chances. But that album is really immersive. And

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then there's there's really great songs on that like there
is No If, another song about relationships that fail. So
it's it's definitely an iconic album and an amazing sound.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
I agree.

Speaker 8 (56:37):
And then the two thousand and four New metal producer
Ross Robinson produced.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
The self titled The Cure Album.

Speaker 8 (56:46):
Very very mixed reviews of this album, including myself, So
what's your take.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
That's probably one of the weakest Cure albums that they
ever put out.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
I mean, I think the production isn't horrible. I just
think that it was a bad fit. And I don't
hate the way the album sounds.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
It's just that there's there's like a it was maybe
experimental in a sense of production wise, but I don't
think the album really gels. But there's some good songs
on it. Absolutely, Yeah, I love the promise I told.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
I told people I would never be able to play
that song.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Live because it's just that's like an emotional you know, uppercut.
So it's it's just one of those those heavy songs
that you know, it has a lot of meaning behind it.
And obviously it's not with Robert's life. It's just something
he wrote about that, you know.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
But the album, that album's one album that a lot
of people have trouble with fans.

Speaker 8 (57:48):
All right, Then, last but not least, we got two
more left you can sell the two thousand and eight,
the last album they released before their brilliant comeback album
Album of the.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Songs of the Lost Book.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
Uh, four thirteen Dreams. You doesn't means your take on that.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
I remember going to that tour and just digging the
song freak show, but it was just that's That's another album.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
Where they had a couple of OK tunes. I feel
kind of.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
In some ways that that album was a little bit
coasting with what they've already done before, Like it wasn't
something that was innovative, So, uh, you know, one or
two songs on it I dig, But you know, I've
found more songs I've started to like on that self
titled Cure album, like Anniversary. I like that song and

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of course the Promise, and I remember those much more
and I'm into them much more than stuff off of
four four thirteenth threem aside from what was the one
song on there besides freak Show, But yeah, that album
didn't really stick with me.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (58:59):
And then Last but not Least singing Stanley, don't worry,
We're coming back to you brother.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Me and visit could be taking.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Them out of here people and lift it. I'm still here.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
I'll enjoy.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
But last but not least.

Speaker 8 (59:13):
So what was your what would your take on November
first of twenty twenty four of the Year of Our
Lord when the first Tear album in sixteen years came out,
Songs of a Lost World Vincent.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Oh my gosh, I was over the moon and I
was scared at the same time because I was like,
is the band that I love all these years, since
the eighties, since I've seen since nineteen eighty seven, I've
never missed a single Cure concert since nineteen eighty seven.
I've got the receipts to prove it. Yeah, so, uh,

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I miss a single tour? I can Could they do
this again?

Speaker 5 (59:50):
Could they?

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Could they still be up for it? Are they able
to do it? And holy smokes, holy smokes. His voice
is magnificent. He said he quits smoking, and his voice
he retained his voice because he quit smoking.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
And they all sound incredible. The album's amazing. I got
it right here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Drone, Drone is sickest five. Well, I will say, you know,
I don't own any.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Cure albums or anything, and I've never seen them live,
but I do have a live DVD of The Cure,
which I love it.

Speaker 9 (01:00:25):
Man. They are awesome live. Man, They're incredible, dude, awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Thank you Vincent for going on with that thing.

Speaker 8 (01:00:33):
And I think fans, well, you know, really enjoy your
analysis of all that, which is amazing. So back to
the song at hand. Friday, I'm in Love. I went
to number eighteen on the Billboard. One Hunter it was
a worldwide hit. It's a simple song about being in
love and the anticipation of the weekend, very very simplistic,

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reaching number six in the UK. And I dedicate this
song to the amazing Michelle Marie, who has a shirt
that says Friday Amman love pob blonde.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Nothing beats her.

Speaker 9 (01:01:11):
All right, awesome man.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
We'll back to the Wish album and uh track number eight,
trust Well, you know yeah, ambient boring.

Speaker 9 (01:01:24):
Will put me to sleep song.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Yeah, sorry guys, Vincent, Uh, let's get your take on
trust Well.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
It's another gut punch with a breakup, so go, yeah,
what'd you know it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
And you know, the guy who's been married to his
childhood sweetheart is writing breakup songs that fuck you up?

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
Yeah? I mean it's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Still the hardest part for you to put your trust
in me. I love you more than I can say.
Why won't you just believe? Holy crap, Holy crap.

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Just that's a kick in the balls when you're like
trying to fix a relationship. But it's amazing. It starts
with that piano and it just brings you in. It
immerses you into it, and it doesn't immerse you into
the whole sound. It just immerses you into the whole
heaviness of those lyrics, of what he's saying, what he's
talking about. He just wants the girl to believe in him,

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and it's it's just broken.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
So uh, it's it's a ten out of ten song
for me. It's a heavy song, but it's a big deal.
It's a good one way.

Speaker 11 (01:02:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Trust so eloquently. Uh put into words Vincent.

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
And I'm not surprised actually with you. So trust first
of all, five out of five motherfucking chop si so,
and I let this list Vincent quoting lyrics everything.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Here's one lyric.

Speaker 8 (01:02:49):
There's no one left in the world that I can
hold on to. There is really no one left at all.
There is only you, man. And I'm gonna and not
I'm not can light of anything. But if you're contemplating suicide,
this is your soundtrack. Man. But like I said, five
out of five chapsticks, I mean, tear your cut your

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heart over.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
I mean it's just fucking amazing, man.

Speaker 8 (01:03:12):
And you know, Binzay was talking about how Cure fans,
you know, Laurie Sue God Rest your soul and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
She used to tell me, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
Because back then all my little friends, the game, all
that and Laurie sud say, you know what. To really
appreciate the cure, you have to be intelligent.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
Have to have relationships, you know. When you don't have relationships.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Yeah, if you've never lived with a woman, you ain't
gonna get the cure.

Speaker 8 (01:03:41):
Okay, and uh, you know, oh I'm all these people.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Oh I have all these girlfriends. Well, who'd you live with?
Who'd you live with? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Those girlfriends are inflatable that they got if you're not
having to pay for them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Yeah, exactly, so man, Yeah, trust as sick as fuck?
Uh and the go brother all right?

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Track number nine, A Letter to a Lease?

Speaker 9 (01:04:08):
Did I pronounce that right? Yeah? At least yeah. I've
heard this one before. This one is okay. But like
everything on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
This album up to up to uh besides Friday, I'm
in love, it's uh, it's just so slow man, so
slow man, I can't. I just wish there was more,
you know.

Speaker 9 (01:04:33):
It's I don't know, man, and.

Speaker 8 (01:04:35):
I barely more like bank tango Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
let's get the let's get the I know, I know, Simon,
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Simon, callup could uh could get.

Speaker 9 (01:04:49):
Uh bring some uh bring some bass to the cure?

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Man, he could he could step in and play some
slack bace for the cure. Hell yeah, hell yeah. I
barely remember the video. Oh, Man, I watched the video
for this one.

Speaker 9 (01:05:02):
I really did try.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Man. I listened to the CD probably about six seven times. Man,
I really did try it. Just a lot of it
does bore me. Man.

Speaker 9 (01:05:14):
I'm sorry, Man, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
But what do you what do you think of a
Letter to Elise?

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
It's another one of these great songs that were built
with this unfolding guitar line and bassline, and it just
basically tells a story of you know somebody when you're
not feeling it. You're in a relationship relationship with somebody
when you're not feeling it. So it's it's it's a
it's a great song to document that he's just not

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feeling it with the girl and he wants to move on,
and you know he's tried to make it work but
it's not working.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
So I like that. It's slow. I mean, not everything
needs to be like uh no, it does the bang tango, but.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
It's a it's a good moody mood building song, and
it's it's told in a gentle way, so I really
like the way that it's presented.

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
You know, It's definitely a four out of five for.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Me because you know, basically, it's really hard for me
to rate some of this stuff, but I know there's
some stuff that's because I love everything, so it's it's
a little harder. But I would say it's not one
of my favorites, but I appreciate it really quite a
bit because of how nicely it's it's told and it's
laid out.

Speaker 9 (01:06:33):
Cool right on man way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Yeah, honored. Uh, this song is so fucking sick as fuck.

Speaker 8 (01:06:42):
It's a fucking masterpiece and an interesting thing about it.
It's a breakup song, obviously, and it's told from the
perspective of the person ending.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
The relationship, very very treepy.

Speaker 8 (01:06:54):
It's deep ship and not to repeat myself, but five
out of five chop sticks now blah bah bah.

Speaker 12 (01:07:01):
Dam right on manh Track number ten, cut Ah Finally Man,
Finally an upbeat you know song, groovy, something different.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Finally Man, this is a cool tune. I dug this one.
I did dig this one. Uh, Vincent, tell me all
about cut Man.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
Well see you. You got what you asked for. You
wanted to get it something upbeat, and any delivers.

Speaker 11 (01:07:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
You see how it balances out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Well, it took the track number ten balance.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
Well, it's it's great.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
It's a it's a song where the breakup is done
and the guy realizes it and you know, it's all
just uh outburst of emotion, which is what I like
about this song. And it's it's intense. They play it
very intensely and it's just you know, he's, oh, sorry,
something over here.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
But yeah, it's it's played with a lot of it
is very intense.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
It's a really great breakup type song even though you're realizing, uh,
you've lost everything.

Speaker 5 (01:08:08):
So it's a it's a nice uh storm of emotion
is what I would call it. So I dig it.
It's it's a ten out of technically anto one of
those right.

Speaker 9 (01:08:19):
On Wang cut.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Yeah, it's about a person who still loves.

Speaker 8 (01:08:23):
Someone who no longer loves them. I've heard it's also
about a failing friendship. I guess you could use both
of the great musicianship. I absolutely adore this lineup and
was incredible and I give cut five out of five.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Child foks, right on right on, broh, we're almost done here.
We're on track number eleven to Wish the Impossible Things.

Speaker 9 (01:08:48):
Another slow, mellow one. But guess what I dig it?

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
I dig this one ispec I dig this one especially
if I want to fall asleep.

Speaker 9 (01:08:56):
It's perfect, fucking perfect. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
It's got nice violin at the end. Man, this song
would put me to sleep in a heartbeat. Vincent, what
do you think of this song?

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
It's another uh one that I absolutely love. It's it's
another gut punch of emotion. It was really great the
way they did this live too, because they built it
up slowly, and they built it up with that sound.
You know, they hit you with a wall of sound.
It's just it's unmistakable, but lyrically, yes, it's it's just

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reflecting on a relationship and lost love. So it's it's
it's it's a powerful song and it's I love the
way it's all it's all laid out.

Speaker 5 (01:09:40):
It's just one of those songs that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
You'd be if you broke up with somebody and you'd
try yourself to sleep on. You know, we all need
a song like that, and that definitely fits the bill.
So it's ten out of ten for me with that one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
All right, Wang, what do you think to wish impossible things?

Speaker 8 (01:09:57):
Before I get to Then I'm gonna name some things
that happened in the world. January seventh, nineteen ninety two,
AT and ten releases the first video phone selling for
fifteen hundred dollars. January eleventh, Nirvana's Nevermind. It's number one
on the Billboard chart. January thirteenth, nineteen ninety two. Serial
killer Jeffrey Dahmer pleads guilty for killing and dismembering seventeen

(01:10:19):
men and boys between nineteen seventy nineteen ninety one. January ten,
eating them Yeah, ed eighty them correct, saute whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
January twenty seventh.

Speaker 8 (01:10:30):
Mike Tyson goes on trial for rape and found guilty.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
February twentieth.

Speaker 8 (01:10:35):
Dick York, the original guy on The Witch, passes away
from AIDS at sixty three years old. February twenty fifth,
nineteen ninety two. Pantera's Vulgar Display of Powers repeats April tenth.
Comedian Sam Kennison dies in a car crash at thirty
eight years old.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
April nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 8 (01:10:55):
Concept in the Memory of Queen's Freddie Mercury is held
at Wimbley Stadium May twelfth, nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Brady Bunch the Dad Robert Reid dyes of aids.

Speaker 8 (01:11:07):
And then two more and then I got a couple
more later, and then I'll make twenty fifth, nineteen ninety two,
Jay Lenno becomes permanent host of The Tonight Show and then,
in closing on part one June twenty fourth, nineteen ninety two,
Mafia boss John Gotti begins his life sentence for five
pounds of murder and then we go two number eleven

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fish impossible things. Speaking of depression, check out these theories.
But now the sun shines cold, and all the sky
is to pray. The stars are dim by clouds and tears,
and all I wish has gone away.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Pretty upbeat, right.

Speaker 7 (01:11:52):
Wow, alright, alright, man finally finally checked twelve the end
n oh Man a cool guitar riff.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
But uh yeah, and this man for me, Man, Man,
Man put me out of my misery. Man, this is that,
Thank God.

Speaker 8 (01:12:09):
Man.

Speaker 9 (01:12:10):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
I tried, guys, I tried. I listened to this album.
I I told, I told Wang and I even told
Vincent before we did this one. I wish we did
another album because I wanted to give the Cure more
in love because I do. I do love the Cure man.
I like a lot of Cure shit. But man, this album, man,
I I don't know. Man, It's a little bit slow

(01:12:32):
and boring for me. But uh yeah, Vincent, what do
you think.

Speaker 9 (01:12:35):
Of the end?

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Well, you you wanted, Uppy, you got, you got that song,
cut you got like you got what you wanted.

Speaker 9 (01:12:42):
I got that on Friday. I'm in love.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
So yeah, all right, there.

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
Is that you got the full deck.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
So that that's why I call myself a casual Cure fan.
I like the hits, you know, and I like the
up to upbeat stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:12:57):
So well, this is a good song because it also
sums up with what he was feeling at the time,
because he felt like before making him out to be
like the you know, they were over worshiping him, and
he was kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Tired of that because he sees himself as just a
guy like, you know, I just make music, you know,
stop doing all this crazy shit to like worship me.
And in that lyric, he says, please stop loving me.
I'm you know, like cut it out, chill out, you know,
it's part of the thing, like people don't understand his
image of why he wears all those loose clothes and
like he's all soft and stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
It's because he'd get clawed at by chicks.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
These women are like tearing his trying to tear parts
of his clothes and jewelry off.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
So it's kind of like he said he wanted to look.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Fragile so that way people don't like paw him and
do all this stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
So people would think the guy's like, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
Oh he's he's got makeup on, he's fragile, he's got
crazy hair, you know, like I'll probably kick his ass,
but he'll fuck you up. The dude grew up in
Crawley and there were skinheads tried to beat up punk
rockers and guts in the days, and they used to
try to avoid getting beaten up, and they'd have to
get into fist fights and bars and stuff back in
the day.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
So it's not like he's a soft dude. He knock
you out. People know that know him, know that he's
you know, he's one of those quiet, serious types. But
you know, you know what you do when you provoke
those they they go after you. But this song.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
I like it because he basically puts the point down
to just you know, chill out with like the way
people were looking at.

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
Him at the time, and relax and like he's ready.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
He's always ready to walk away from it all, but
it comes back because he just loves to make music
and he's good at it and he knows he knows
his craft, you know. So it's a good what would
you say, It's like a good staple of the time
of where he was at with his career and his life.

Speaker 5 (01:14:51):
So I definitely give it a five out of five
for that.

Speaker 8 (01:14:56):
Right on, right on, Wang, what do you think in
I really can't add anything to Vincent's eloquent description of
the song where he was at at the moment and
everything at just turning thirty three years old.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
You know, and to try to use different words than.

Speaker 8 (01:15:16):
Vincent did without repeating exactly pervading what he said.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
It's about someone not feeling like they deserve any of
the phrase.

Speaker 8 (01:15:23):
Or love someone who's trying to give them a fans,
a woman blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Blah blah, and just again that the sounds and everything.

Speaker 8 (01:15:33):
It's it's a great song, and I'm gonna give it
four to five chopsticks.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Not one song got less than four chopsticks.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
So brilliant, many awesome, awesome, man, awesome.

Speaker 9 (01:15:45):
Hey man, guys, you goes listen.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
You know, I may not be a huge fan of
this album, of this one, but but but you guys
are my friends, man, And I know you love the
Cure and oh you know how you know, and and
I wanted to give you guys an opportunity to gush
on it.

Speaker 9 (01:16:03):
You know, I'm a casual fan.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
I like a bot of Cure stuff, you know, I like,
you know, a couple of songs off the South. I mean,
there's a bunch of other Cure songs I like, like Hot,
Hot Hot, you know, just like Heaven Love Song, you know,
all their hits, you know, I like all that shit.

Speaker 8 (01:16:20):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
So so you know I'm not I'm not.

Speaker 9 (01:16:23):
I'm not missed the Cure.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
So Cure fans, relax, relax. I do like them, you know.
But I just wanted to give you guys an opportunity.

Speaker 5 (01:16:31):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
You know, you know, unlike you know some other people
you know that wouldn't wouldn't give the Cure of the
time of day, you know, and let their friends talk
about them, you.

Speaker 9 (01:16:40):
Know, but you know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:16:43):
Yeah, the Cure to me, singing Stanley as is as
important as seventies Kiss Van Halen rock. I mean they are.
I mean I always mind list and everything are basically
always like hard rock and metal. But if you said
all right, all, then their Cure would be up there
with rock.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Van Haling, right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
I mean, the Cure and Rush made this guy a
smarter person.

Speaker 9 (01:17:11):
I mean I was.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
I was walking around high school and a tryer and
made the talent good t shirts.

Speaker 9 (01:17:17):
And there were gods walking around school with their Cure
T shirts.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
They knew what was up, you know, and and who's
to who's to fucking bash on them and call them
bags and fucking all this get mathered, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:17:29):
The Cure and Cure are often man and if and
if you want.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
To hear some progressive progressive music and some metal, you know,
the Cure got that for you too, man, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:17:39):
So, I mean it's all mixed in there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
If you're looking for it, you can find it with
the Cure of Fist. They do touch on a lot
of different genres and just mix it all together. And
that's what makes them unique. And that's why fans love them.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
Well, you know, guys that don't get laid have to
bash the cure because they don't understand women because they
don't have any game. When you don't have any game,
you don't have any romance, you don't have any relationship.
You have prostitutes and inflatable girlfriends. So I've seen so
many guys. I mean, I grew up in a tough
neighborhood where I had to deal with all that kind

(01:18:17):
of hate towards like goth.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
And punk stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
So I'm fine with people hating the bands I love.
It's fine with that. But when you start to disrespect
people and you don't respect people for it, I'm not
gonna like hip hop guys.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
I don't like some of it, but I'm not gonna
call them names. But it's all different when it's in person.
It's all different when it's in person.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Yeah, buddy, there you go, there you go.

Speaker 8 (01:18:44):
All right, let me finish a couple of things before
we end this brilliant podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
So on August eighth of nineteen ninety two, the year of.

Speaker 8 (01:18:51):
Old James Hetfield and Metallica suffers major burns from a
pyro accident at a concert.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
At Olympic Stadium in Montreal, Canada. Duns and Roses.

Speaker 8 (01:19:01):
Front man Axel Rose walks off the stage early following
Hetfield's exit and basically O Ryan happened to myself?

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
And then on September.

Speaker 8 (01:19:13):
Twelfth, nineteen ninety two, Anthony Cycles Norman Bates Guys of
AIDS at sixty years old. September twenty ninth, nineteen ninety two,
Alison Change Dirk Is released. October third, nineteen ninety two,
Shannad O'Connor stirs up massive controversy by ripping up a

(01:19:33):
photo of the Pope live on television The Saturday Night Live.
And then on November third of nineteen ninety two, Rage
Against the Machine releases their debut record. And then on
December third of nineteen ninety two, Bill Wyman, bass player
of the bass player of the Rolling Stones, I announced
this leaving the Rolling Stones and in last but not least,

(01:19:57):
speaking of hip hop, Vincent on December fifteen, nineteen ninety
thegure of our ord so brilliant, the Amazing Doctor Drake,
the chronic.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Of Thelae.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
All right, yeah, hell yeah, ain't.

Speaker 8 (01:20:14):
Nothing for the key thing maybe yeah yeah yeah for
Joe for show.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
All right, man, see you guys, we got to wrap
it up here. Man about this little battery here man.
So yeah, you guys, got anything else you want to add?

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Yeah, thank you, Vincent. I totally respect you and me.
Back in the days to I was aware of your
Cure band, a tribute band you and.

Speaker 8 (01:20:39):
Me years ago we were communication about the Cure that
was our bond.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
So thank you for gracing our podcast. We're honored.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me bough.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
You know, since since I became a truck driver, I
fell off the face of the earth for a while
then getting back.

Speaker 5 (01:20:54):
Now because I don't live on the road anymore. So
you know, what do you want to do?

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
It's like, tried to do more of these things. It
would be a lot of fun. But yeah, I mean
I got I brought my tickets out for for.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
Some of this. And uh, I even have the tour
book from the Wish album right here.

Speaker 9 (01:21:10):
Oh awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:21:11):
Wow, And even the newspaper article from when they tour
it is in is in this like you know, like
I was saying.

Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
I keep their re seats. It's a difference between talking
and people who bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Basically, think family here, you thinking family here?

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Bridges Legit fans, Legit here.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
Fans, yep and and Bang Tango fans.

Speaker 9 (01:21:40):
Oh yeah, out.

Speaker 8 (01:21:44):
I got one more question for Vincent. Vincent on the
Disintegration tour. Now, you were living in La back in
eighty nine, right.

Speaker 5 (01:21:52):
Nope, I saw that in Giant Stadium with Love and Rockets.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
I get a take.

Speaker 8 (01:21:56):
I was gonna ask you if you saw it Dodger
Dodger Stadium, So you saw Wow at stadium?

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Awesome? Who who who is the opening.

Speaker 5 (01:22:04):
Bands Loving Rockets? Oh? Yeah, yeah, Actually I.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Actually got dinner with the with the bass player once
from Loving Rockets, because uh, well I have some friends
who are with them, so it's like I went to
the Rainbow and had dinner with him.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
So it was actually kind of fun. That was That
was a good night.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
I watched, Uh, I watched Peter Murphy from Bajaus at
the Hollywood Palladium. So I watched it from the sound
booth and you know who walked into the sound booth
behind me?

Speaker 5 (01:22:41):
Danzig? Wow. So I got to talk to Danzig.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
I showed him my tattoo and everything because I have
a dancing tattoo. But he was so fucking nice and
it's like, like, what's the fun kind of life do
I have?

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
All this crazy ship happens? But yeah, that was a
good But now hold.

Speaker 8 (01:23:01):
On, what one more antidote of this guy right here?

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
This legend.

Speaker 8 (01:23:06):
Years ago, I remember I was on Twitter, right la
la la la, and all of a sudden, I'm all
looking everything and it's like and I found this like
like a pink Floyd uh like millions of fans like
this Pink Floyd page and I'm all scroll right. It's like,
all of a sudden, I mean, homeboy, with all of
a sudden, I'm all, wait a bite. On one side,

(01:23:27):
I see Edward Chanhlen this is like in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
On one side Edward pat Halen. And then and I'm
the one that told this guy about And then on
the other side, I see David.

Speaker 8 (01:23:37):
Gilmourt Gilmore and who the fuck do I see in
the middle of the picture this guy?

Speaker 5 (01:23:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
That was that was that time I walked into work
and they were filming an HBO special for Les Paul
and fucking Van Halen is walking around the building and
I got to hang out with him and I chatted
with him and I talked with him, and that was
the best fucking day of my life because I got
paid for that ship. I got to be backstage security
and watch van Halen's stage side, so.

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
It's it's crazy. I just got lucky.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
I worked at an off Broadway theater for about five
years in New York, so I got to see a
lot of free shows, and they did a lot of
tapings for HBO and things like that, so I met a.

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
Lot of people.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
And then I worked in the entertainment industry a bunch
of times and did my whole music thing.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
So it's it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
That picture popped up on the Pink Floyd site and
now it's like, whenever you search my name, my name
turns up.

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
With van Halen. It's it's fucking crazy. It's awesome.

Speaker 9 (01:24:34):
It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:24:36):
Not to be a narcissist, but am I the first
person to said, hey, man, look at.

Speaker 5 (01:24:40):
This, Yeah you found that shit. I was just like, uh, with.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
You on the show awesome, It's suckuly.

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
So I'm glad. I'm glad about that. That was a
really good memory because who fucking know that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
I ended up moving to Los Angeles and I lived
like five blocks from David d Rotz house, his house
is right there.

Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
And Van Halenson, Oh look at that.

Speaker 14 (01:25:08):
Sir, yes, sir, awesome brother, awesome, all right man, well
we gotta cut this man, uh where my battery cuts out?

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Awesome?

Speaker 9 (01:25:20):
All right man?

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Anything else real quick?

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Well, thank you guys for having me. It's it's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
It's always great to be with friends and actually know
and love the band as as opposed to these Neanderthals
online that love to tough shit.

Speaker 5 (01:25:35):
But it is what it is like.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Hell yeah it is, hell yeah it is. Thanks Vincent
for being on and Wang. That wraps up another episode
of the Thinking Wag Show.

Speaker 7 (01:25:48):
We'll see it next time.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Think Army Production

Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
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