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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hey everybody, and welcome to a brand new episode of
the Terrible Tear Podcast. And I hope you are all
doing well this fine weekend. And what are we here
to talk about today? It is a new mini episode,
so uh, we're gonna talk about a couple of things.
I'm going to give you a warning because there will
be spoilers that I'm going to talk about, because I
went and saw two movies before, you know the recording
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of this podcast. One that I had wanted to see
hadn't seen yet, and it wasn't sure if I was
going to catch in the theaters, and then I had
a night where I could actually go out to theater
and catch it and I did. And then the other
one I didn't tend to see this weekend. We're gonna
start with that one first because it is not horror related.
It is, of course Superman and Superman. I don't want
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to spoil this one too much. It's very hard to
really spoil it because it's like not really like there's
nothing mystical or mysticism or like there's no twists, there's
no there's nothing weird about the movie. The other one
I am gonna spoil some because I got to talk
about a couple of things, like Superman is very straightforward.
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Just in general, I will definitely say that I very
much enjoyed Superman. I thought that it was a good
representation of the character. I think that overall, James Gunn
style really shows through this movie. There are a couple
of things I did not love about it. One would
be his parents. That's the biggest thing when you go
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to see this, maybe that's the biggest spoiler that I've
got for this one, is that they really like they
made his parents like country bumpkins. And I really really
really disliked that when you first introduced the mom and
she can barely do the phone and she's like Heaver
and Oliver Son Son, I can't believe I'm talking to
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you on this magical talking box. Like, yeah, they would
be older and maybe they wouldn't know the technology as
well as other people would, but it really just made
them seem stupid, like dumb, and like that was really dumb.
Just in general. I wasn't a big fan of that.
And while you know, there was a redeeming moment for
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his father, you know, his adoptive fodder in this movie
in a really good scene right where I was like,
why couldn't have it been like that the entire fucking
time for both of his parents. It still was a
bad choice. I just don't know why he decided to
do that choice. I do love everything else about the movie,
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or and now I love it is it's actually halfway
between like and love. I'm not like Google Gaga over
the entire movie, but as a start for this new
DCU that they're trying to do, and in terms of
superhero movies and how superhero movies are going, I'm, you know,
right kind of, I'm right at that edge where I
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really want to see where they want to go. Because
the coolest thing in the movie is that you get
to introduced to a bunch of characters that you normally
wouldn't see, right and like who the hell knows about
mister Terrific And who the hell knows about Guy Gardner?
And who knows Hawk Girl that much? You know, and Metamorpho,
Like unless you're like a real big fan of the
com books itself, you don't know these characters necessarily, so
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it's cool to see, Like James Gunn is always done
a really good job at introducing different things into these
movies because he's such a fan of the material that
they come from that it is. It just makes it
fun and it makes it entertaining to see him do
these things. And I like Nathan Fillion a lot in
this movie. I thought he did excellent as Guy Gardner.
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I think the dude that played mister Terrific was fantastic.
I think that he has one of the best scenes
in this entire movie. James Gunn does a really good
job mixing action in music, and he gets the best
one in the entire movie. I thought the storyline was
was good. It could have been better. In general, it
just seemed like it was moving along. I think that
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mister Holt that played Lex Luthor, I don't know why
forgetting his first name entirely in the back of my head.
I think he's one of the better Lex Luthors that's
been in the role. And yeah, there are a couple
of moments where I know that, you know my movie
seeing partner over here parable Pat. He was not very
excited about one specific thing that happens towards the end
movie with Lex Luthor. But I think overall he's a
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solid Lex Luthor personally personally, so I think that if
you were interested in going seeing Superman, I think you
should see it. I think that you'll enjoy it, You'll
have a good time. Is it the best out of
all the Superman's No, I mean, it's hard to beat
Superman two. Superman two really is like the quintessential Superman
movie that's out there. But I don't think that you're
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gonna really have that bad of a time watching this thing.
I know there's a lot of stupid controversy that's going
on in the movie, and some of it is really
fucking ridiculous, is over the top, really ridiculous, and I
just don't want to get into it. But the one
I did want to get into was that supposedly there
was a scene in the movie because the villain of
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the movie is Ultraman, and Ultraman was supposed to punch Crypto,
who I really liked Crypto in the movie as well.
I didn't think I was gonna like with the dog
and what they were doing, but I was like, oh, actually,
I'm kind of into it. Though there was some at
the end of the movie that was like it was cute,
but I'm like, uh, did it really need that type
of audience? Response from it. But yeah, of course they
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got that type of response with that dog. And there
was something too where there's somebody that shows up at
the very end of the movie, and I didn't like
how that character was betrayed or betrayed portrayed in this movie.
For even the moment that was there. I'm just like,
I don't get it. But the good thing was is
that we got to see Superman kind of already being Superman. Right,
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it's three months after he's announced that, Hey, I'm Superman
and we're getting into it. And so the thing with Ultraman,
when he's coming in there and this is first fight
and he's losing against him, he's that's how the movie starts.
But there was a point where they were supposed to
have a fight, and it's a jarring cut because I
think I know where it was supposed to be where
Crypto was going to get punched by Ultraman and thrown
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across the room, and test audiences hated it because they
were beating up a dog, and he was like, oh,
here's an evil man being evil and he punching a dog.
You can't do that, And so they took it out
of it and I'm just like, that's stupid. But though
the engineer does do stuff to Crypto too, and nobody
seemed to give a shit and test audiences about a
woman beating up of dogs. I don't know what that says,
but I think that's just stupid, Like, let villains be villains,
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let them do bad things, let them hate you for
whatever reason that you want to hate them for. It's
so ridiculous. And the thing is coming from the world
of horror. Nobody gives a shit about horror villains and
doing stupid shit. It's in these other mediums that it's like,
oh no, you can't have a super villain punch the
crap out of a dog. I'm not saying that you
need to watch dogs die and have him rip his
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head off and throw the thing over the place and
do all that shit, but like it's a superhero movie.
It's a super fucking power dog. It can take a
fucking punch. But overall, I mean, besides that being taken
out of it again, the rest of the movie's perfectly
fine and it's very entertaining, So I definitely I put
this out a four out of five. Baldman, you know,
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I think that that's a solid movie choice. I think
that you know, there's still gonna be some things that
your milage may bear if you go in with stinking
thinking in your brain and you're one of those guys
that's like, you know, there's a lot of people the
Snyder cut bullshit and it's like, that's just another representation
of Superman. Why can't you have multiple? Do you hate
Christopher Reeves too? Do you think that Christopher Reeves is
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the worst Superman ever because he wasn't Henry Cavill. If
I have to rank my Superman's at least theatrical Superman's
that i've seen, Christopher Reeves definitely on top, and then
I would do Henry Cavell. Then I would do this
dude whose name I totally forgetting, and then Brendon Routh.
I've only seen this dude in this movie. So and
the girl that plays hot Girl, I saw her in
something recently that she was awesome in and I can't
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remember the movie for the fucking life of me. And
the entire time I kept thinking during the movie, what
movie was she just in? What was she just in?
And it was some horror movie. I believe that she
was just in and I was like, she was great
in that, and she was pretty good in this, so well,
we'll have to see what happens. But I really want
to see where they're gonna go with these characters, and
I want to see what they do with this universe,
and I really hope that they keep it in line
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with I think how James Gunn wants to do these
things moving forward. That's really what it is like. I
don't mind the comedy aspects of it, but it wasn't
like Guardians of the Galaxy comedy that is mixed in
that movie or in all three of those movies. It
kept itself a little rounded. I think you had this
very virtuous Superman and they played that to comedic effect
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in a couple of different scenes. I love how they
portray the relationship between Lois and Superman in this movie.
I think it's one of the best ones that's been
done between these two characters because it's not just a
you know again, it's reminiscent of more of the original
Superman movies versus even the Zack Snyder Superman movies, and
we don't have to focus so much on the lowest character,
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even though we do get some good scenes with her,
and she does, like I said, I think she reminds
me of Courtney Cox a little bit like Scream Courtney
Cox is what she kind of reminds me these movies,
but just done better in all honesty, And I like
the rest of the Daily Planet, like Crew. I thought
that they all did a great job, and they weren't
in a terrible amount, but overall, I just there were
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a couple of annoying things in the movie, a couple
of great action scenes, and some really good representations of
the characters. So now moving forward, I want to talk
about the other movie that I saw on this lovely
week that we have there, and finally I got a
chance to go see twenty eight years Later. Now, I
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know I'm a little late to the game when it
comes to that, and seeing the movie finally, I really
really enjoyed twenty eight days Later. I'm not the biggest
fan of twenty eight weeks Later, right, And this is
gonna be more spoilerfic because there's things I've got to
talk about when it comes to this, and when it
even comes to twenty eight days and twenty eight weeks
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and this, I will say right off the bat that
twenty eight years later. You don't have to see the
other two movies. It only helps for honestly, two things,
one to know what's been retcon and two to have
an easter egg in twenty eight days later, because the
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guy that Cillian Murphy plays in the very first movie,
and it's in the trailer, and I really wish it
wasn't in the trailer, and it's kind of a wasted sequel,
a sequel easter egg, to be honest, because what you
see in the trailer is what you get in this movie.
So you recognize the character, you see what the fate
is of him, and it's really stupid because, like I
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think it's again it's the most wasted one because it's like, oh, well,
what happened to the character? And then oh, he's become
one of the rage infested and then he's killed Hella
Quick by the boy that's there in the movie, by Spike, right,
and that's it. That's all you get about it. And
then if you know the ending of twenty eight weeks later,
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and this was the thing that I was kind of like,
I'm not sure why they decided to do it that way,
but I think it's just to leave everything more contained
that at the end of twenty eight Weeks Later. The
whole idea of that movie is that there's a family
that's trying to escape England, and you have Jeremy Renner's
character come into there and is allowing them to like travel,
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and he sacrifices himself and they're still trying to get away,
and the father comes back the last minute and he's
kind of like raging out but not really and he's
trying to stop them. And you learned that the son,
the youngest one, I believe it's the son. He's immune
to the virus, right, but he's a carrier. And so
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they introduced carriers into that movie just kind of like
almost like the zombie apocalypse type thing. You know, there's
one that's not affected by the zombies and can't be
you know, like a Last of Us situation. I guess
you could say maybe the Last of Us riers took
something from this, but that person is immune to the
whole thing. I think his mother is too, if I
remember correctly. It's been a long time since I've seen
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twenty eight weeks Later. Uh. And at the end of it,
you know, the guy comes down in the helicopter and
he rescues the last two survivors of the movie, including
this kid who is a carrier of the virus that's
gonna take it to the mainland. And kind of it's
a bleak ending in that second movie because it's kind
of like saying that, hey, it's gonna spread because even
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though this kid's immune, he can still carry the virus
to other people, and other people can become infected in YadA, YadA, YadA.
And I know there was supposed to be a twenty
eight months later where I believe that the world was
going to be infected or something along those lines, and
it was gonna spread even further out right. And so
since they didn't make twenty eight months later and we
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go directly into twenty eight years later, the retcon is
is that it is just contained to the mainland of England, right, England,
Scotland and those areas, So the rage virus hasn't spread
out everywhere. And that's all you really need to know
right when it comes to seeing this movie. That's it.
There's nothing really special about the first two. They don't
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really connect in any way to this one other than
seeing Cilly and Murphy's character as a shriveled corpse and
then him getting killed. That's honestly it. Maybe there's more,
Maybe I need to look into it a little more,
but you know, I wish there was there was something
more to the connections that are there. But you know what,
it's fine. I'm gonna say this right off the bat
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because again I'm going to talk about some stupid things
that go in there. But overall, I love this movie.
I really really enjoyed everything about this movie except for
the last five minutes, maybe even ten minutes of this movie.
And if you've seen the movie, you know exactly why
I don't like it. And I think that it's ridiculous
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and it's hard to not and it literally is knocking
off a point for me, and I get it to
an extent. Now. I didn't watch any like explain the
endings or anything like that. You know, I'm just going
off of my own thoughts and my own brain and
whatever we're doing with this in this type of movie,
that's here. So the crux of twenty eight years Later,
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the main ideas behind it is really it's the journey
and the growth of Spike's character. Right where Aaron Tarryla
Johnson is his dad. In the beginning of the movie,
his mom is sick and his dad is taking him
out for his first voyage into the mainland because where
they live it's this gluted island that's kind of blocked
off by the high and low tides, and so they're
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able to cross across to the mainland when the tide
is low. When the tide is high, the water is
gonna send them out into the middle of the ocean
and they're not gonna be able to survive. They'll get
swept away and you won't be able to swim past
the currents, at least that's what his dad says, right,
And so the first part of the movie is his
dad taking him to the mainland and him experiencing it.
And he's only twelve at this point, right, and a
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lot of it is just really about the journey and
him going out there and him killing his first infected
person's first rage infected person, who happens to be a fat,
slow guy, and the dad's like super proud of him,
and then how they get chased by an alpha and
then at that point he can't hold himself together. In
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the span of that bit of the movie, and you know,
and him basically growing into a kind of a warrior
that can survive this land is kind of what it
is because when he goes back and they're celebrating him
and he's like, uh, I'm not really a hero. Why
his dad embellishing these things? I don't understand what the
hell is going on with all this shit? And then
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you know, he catches his dad cheating on his mom,
and his mom is basically like invalid. She's going crazy.
You know, she doesn't remember where he's at, and she
freaks out quite a bit. But things that you find
out within the movie, knowing that she has can and
that she knows about the cancer and it's only gonna
be so much longer that it is, you know, and
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hiding that from her son, it's it's all part of
that journey that he experiences because when you learn these things,
and especially when you learn from her that she kind
of knew already that things that she does, like, is
she playing it up to put it upon her son
right to keep her son close to her? Is it
all just you know, is something like almost like proxy
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by Munchausen, Like I have that feeling with that character
when we learn these things. But you know, he ends
up taking her out into the mainland because they see
a fire in the distance, and that fire that's in
the distance when he saw it with his dad was
a doctor. But the doctor's kind of gone crazy, at
least to them, right, the people that are on the island,
And they have a rule on the island that if
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you're out there in the mainland and you don't come
back within the lotted amount of time that you're supposed to,
that they're gonna keep you. You know, they're not gonna
look for you. You're just lost. And if you make
it back, you make it back. If you don't, you don't.
That's just the way that they do everything to keep
their society together. And so you know, they get chased
by the Alpha. They have to spend the night inside
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of a house that ends up crumbling, and then the
alpha comes after them again and then they manage to
get back and that's when they do the partying and
stuff like that. And his dad's cheating on his mom
with a school teacher that's there because she's an able
bodied person is able to give him the affection that
he wants, and he happens to see it you know,
he sees his dad go down on this girl. I
was like, Okay, I'm not sure exactly why we're gonna
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be showing this up, but okay, I guess that's what
I get to see here. I get to see some
dude go under somebody else's dress. So when he grabs
his mom and he knows about the he because he
talks to one of the old men that are there,
and he's like a village elder. I don't know if
he's related to anybody that's there, but he tells him
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about the doctor. He's like, oh, you need to talk
to your father about that. And he confronts his father
on the whole situation that's going on, the school teacher
and the mom and everything like that, and the doctor
that's out there, and he says that, you know, they
found the doctor. And then he noticed that there were
just a ton of bodies that he was laying down
all over the ground and he had a fire, and
he's like, we just wanted no part of that bullshit,
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which I completely agree with him. I wouldn't want any
part of that bullshit. If I saw a giant fucking
funeral pyre that was mil nowher in fucking Rose and
Rose and Rose and Rose bodies and obviously he's burning
the bodies. Uh am I going to be part of
that pire? Is he insane? Like what's going on? And
that doctors played by Ralph Fines, which is absolutely excellent
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in this role. And I didn't know that Ralph Fines
was actually in this movie. And when I saw him,
I was like, oh, holy shit, that's Ralph Fines, isn't it.
And it wasn't like he was completely unrecognizable, but he
was kind of unrecognizable, Like it took me a while
to like figure out, that has to be Ralph Fines,
That's what that has to be. And so you know,
he goes on the journey and it's just a lot
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of like him. You know, he said he's he's trying
to be like the big man and stick up for
his mom and he's trying to watch her overnight in
one of the scenes and then boom, you know, he
falls asleep and slow moving zombies or rage person whatever
you want to call them, is about to get him.
And I love the tension that's built in the scene
and it's got some weird like in the beginning, it
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has these weird like stop effects that I don't know
how to explain it exactly in the right way if
you're just listening to an audio medium. Basically, like somebody like
they take their shooting with bows and arrows because it's
quieter than guns, right, and then probably that's all they
really have. And so when they shoot the bow and
arrow and they shoot the arrow at the rage person,
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then they hit him, and then the camera does this
like almost it's not quite a matrix turn, but it's
almost like a freeze frame, and it's it's effective in
what it's doing, but it's just kind of jarring at
the same time, you know, I don't know, And it's
weird because it even feels like the film grain changes
to where it's like clean to where it's kind of
like not staticky but like more raw foot it's just
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like not processed in the way that it's done. Like
it goes from like an actual film stock to digital
and you can you have that jarring shift, and it's
whenever these rage people come out, and it's it's cool
to see, but it's it's interesting, it's weird at the
same time. So so you know, he ends up getting
saved in the middle of the night, and it turns
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out that his mom protected her son, and then she
pretends the next more like, oh, I don't know who
that is. And then we meet some military people, and
that's where we learn that there are actually ships that
completely surround the island and are patrolling to make sure
that nothing gets off that island, right, that whatever is
there is contained on the island, and so even though
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there might be people there that aren't infected, they're forced
to kind of stay there and they can't leave, right,
And so, like I said, everything here is just about
the journey of Spike and how he becomes the person
that he is. And eventually they run into one of
the military people who's the last surviving member of his group,
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and he helps them out. He an interesting scene because
they like run into like a gas station diner, and
when they run inside, the gas has been leaking forever,
and like the mom and Spike, they're like slowly suffocating
in there, but so are the Rage like guys, but
they're still trying to come after him. And then he
fires a shot down there from the roof, which causes
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the flames to ignite and kills all the Rage people,
but they're able to get under the gas that ignites
and the fires go above them, and at that point
he kind of becomes like the comedy relief for a
little while, and he joins them on their little journey
because he's stuck there. There's a funny thing where he's
showing him the outside technology and this boy who was
born in this world on this island in thinking that
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maybe the rest of the world is it. He shows
them the outside world technologies, like he shows him the phone.
He shows them pictures of his quote unquote girlfriend, and
he's like, I've seen a picture like that before. That
happened to what's your name when she ate shellfish and
she found out that she was like allergic. Like it's
funny and it's good, and it's again it's more character
growth for Spike. Everything that happens is brilliant, excellent character growth.
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It is a good study of how he becomes the
person he is at the end of the movie, right
at such a young age. And so this goes through,
you know, he goes through the whole adventure and eventually,
you know, they go on this bus and they find
a pregnant, rage infected person and that person is trying
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to give birth, and the mom helps her give birth,
and the rage person helps her to the point that
she birthed as a child, and that child is a
healthy child that we think is a healthy child at
least right now, but it could be like the kid
in twenty eight weeks later, where this is another person
that's a carrier, but they're like safe from everything, but
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they can still you know, they're they're immune, but they
can still maybe propagate the you know or progenitor or
whatever the fucking word I'm looking for, spread the virus
unknowingly themselves. So you have the zombie giving birth. You've
got a new alpha that's chasing them because they managed
to kill the first alpha that's chasing them. And this
is one they call Simon, and then it's like, I
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believe it's Simon. It could be a different name. I
don't quite remember off the top of my head. But
all I got to know is if you want to
see swinging dick, you are gonna get it. In this movie.
There's gonna be tons of dick, and that guy has
got one huge fucking dick. So anyway, so eventually he
runs them down and but he kills the comedic support.
The last military member in a fucking awesome scene and
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he's got like his head and he's like throwing it
around and trying to whack them with the dude's head
with the spine and everything on it like the gore.
When it happens in this movie, it's really it's good
and it's very fun and it's very eye dropping. It
has a couple of good tension moments. Nothing super scary,
though a fox did get me once in the theater,
and I was pissed off that the fox made me
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jump when they opened the door and it just suddenly
scurried out because I'm not used to hearing foxes. But
eventually they as they're running away, that's when they meet
the doctor who it's the thing with the blow dart,
And then you have that section there where you learn
about what the doctor's really been doing. And he's creating
this like beautiful, like like piece of art out of
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people's skulls, right, and what you see in the poster
and what you see a couple times in the thing,
and it's all the people that died and it's a
memento moriy is what he's creating. Right, Remember that you
die and remember in a way to also remember the
dead and remember the dreams of the dead. So it's
it's basically, you know, like a tribute that he's creating
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for these people. And that's what he did with all
the bodies, and he's basically, you know, you were just
remember that you were going to die, but remember to
live your life while you do. And so you know,
he he shows the process by taking because they managed
to grab the head from the Alpha, or he does
because they trank the Alpha with morphine. And then he
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takes them back to this place and they go through
the process of what he was doing with the fire,
where he's basically melting off the skin off of the body,
off the head, and then taking the fresh skull and
putting the skull as part of this giant like sculpture
that he's got there. And so you know, there that's
where he gets the daughter or the mom to see
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the doctor. And when he sees the doctor, the doctor says,
you know, I can't without doing a biopsy, which I
cannot do. I can't one hundred percent confirm, but your
mom pretty much has cancer. I just don't know what
stage it's in. It's affected her brain. It could have
started with her brain, it could have spread to her
body or vice versa. It was in her body and
then it spreaded to her brain. So I can't do
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anything for her. Basically, she's going to die and you're
gonna have to deal with it. And he's been asking
the entire time, why is my mom gonna die? And
his dad was basically like, no, your mom's not gonna die.
You know it, don't We don't know what's gonna go on. Uh,
And like the dad basically kind of lying to him
as well, right, And so you have now Spike knows
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for certain that he's gonna die and he's getting mad
at the doctor. And I love the scene with the
mom and him. It's like one of the like, most
beautiful fucking scenes in this entire movie, because she's she
finally like comes to her senses and know that she's
dying and everything that she's experienced is because of this cancer,
and she just wants to die is basically what she
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wants to do. And he doesn't want to take it,
and he's not taking no for an answer to that.
You can't help, but you're a doctor. You have to
do this. You have to do these things, and he's
just fighting with that whole you know that he's gonna die,
and you know she's gonna die and doesn't want to
accept that, and she wants to help him accept death
in this world. And so she has the doctor like
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slither off and he prepares his bow is like a
little or not bow, but his little like what blow
dart guns, That's what I'm trying to say, blow dart
gun that he has that he uses on the rage
infector with the morphine and slowly backs away from the
situation as she's holding him, and she's having this beautiful
conversation with her son and basically saying goodbye to him,
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and then he hits him with a blow dart, which
mobilizes him right drugs him up so that he doesn't
know what the hell he's doing and he can't really move,
and then she walks away with the doctor to basically
be killed and immortalized as a skull that's there. And
the doctor comes with her skull and says, put it
at the best part, and he climbs to the top
of the biggest skull pile and puts it on the
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very top and has it look out towards where the
village is to remember her life and talks to it,
kiss like. It's a fucking powerful scene. And you know
he's been given the baby as well, and so they
he's gonna take the baby back to the village, and
you think that he's gonna stay and he's gonna come back,
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and you know now that he's he he's experienced it,
and everything that his dad wanted to experience about being
on the mainland he's done. And more so, he's become
more capable and he's become this this you know man
at twelve years old because of the experiences that he
had on on the island the mainland with his mom.
And instead of staying, he leaves and he you know,
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goes away from the village, but leaves the baby there.
And you have this strong thing with his dad running
out into the water as the tide is rising, trying
to get his son because he doesn't want to lose
his son who's staying out there on the mainland, and
he doesn't want to come back yet, and I'm gonna
come back and right there, that would be the perfect ending.
That'd be the perfect ending, But we left something hanging
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in this movie that I was trying to figure out
why did we see this scene? And it was the
very first scene in the movie, Like each one of
these always have some type of well the first year
I see each one of these, Like there's thirty of
these and this starts a trilogy, right, But the intro
scene is what you see in the trailers where the
kids are watching like the Teletubbies, and then all of
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a sudden, the rage people come in and attack the house.
And there's one kid that gets away and goes to
the church where his father is in the church, and well,
he says father, and I don't think it's his father father.
I think he more meant like the priest that's there.
But the priest doesn't see this as a as the
rage virus and these people attacking as something evil. He
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sees it as a retribution and the time has come
and if you believe in Jesus, then you're gonna be saved,
and allows himself to be killed, but gives the kid
a cross, and then the kid hides underneath the church
as the you know, the father gets killed and then
he runs away, and then we're twenty eight years later
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at that point and now we don't even know where
he is. I thought for a second, I'm like, is
it Aaron Taylor Johnson. Is it his character who's unrecognizable
honestly with the beard and the long hair and everything
like that, or is it somebody else, because it's definitely
not Spike, right, the Spike is way too young. He's
only twelve at this point to be that character. No, no, no,
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that character shows up at the very end of the
movie as we see, like Spike out in the wilds,
he's cooking some fish. Again, I thought this movie was
gonna be over when he dropped off and they had
the letter and that they were just gonna end it.
But this sets up what the sequel is going to be,
right and so which I think is called The Throne
of Bone, but I keep wanting to call The Bone
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Thrown because that would be the perfect porno title for this.
But nonetheless, so, as he's there and he's cooking his meal,
all of a sudden, couple of the runners come and
they smell him, and they start going to where he's
cooking the fish, and so he's running away and he
gets back in the corner and then all of a sudden,
it becomes go go power Ranger time where we saw
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a scene in the beginning of the movie too when
they go into the mainland and they go into this
house and they're trying to find supplies because that's what
they do. They scavenge or they cut down trees for
fuel or whatever they're doing. And so they saw this
guy that was hung upside down and he has crawled
into carved into his back Jimmy, And you don't know
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what the hell that is, what does it mean? Right?
And now we meet who Jimmy is, and Jimmy is
the kid from the beginning of the movie that now
runs around with this goofy gang of people that beat
the crap out of the Runners and like power Ranger style,
like literally they're doing flips and shit, and it's it's
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even gorrier, and there's like rock music that's playing chuck
as they're killing the things, and it's just so silly.
And you have this beautiful fucking movie, this absolutely beautiful
fucking movie that you've got, and this beautiful fucking ending,
and then you have this I don't know what this is, right,
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and I get it that it's to bring back Jimmy,
and it's leading up the next film. I want to
see the next film, but I don't know what the
tonal Shift is really going to be. And so like
my thoughts just in general, like what the next movie
is going to be is kind of I think it's
gonna be just about Jimmy and Jimmy's rise right to
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being the leader of whatever this group is. And then
when we get to the third movie, because like I said,
it's supposed to be a trilogy, and I think all
this is being written by Alex Garland and Danny Boyle
is supposed to direct the first and the last one,
but it's somebody different in the second. But Danny Boyle
is one of the executive producers and his very hands
on with the movies. What I've heard, Uh So with
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the second movie, I think it's all about Jimmy, and
it's all about that group and what happened to him
after he got you know, he ran away, and who
he meant and how he trained or whatever, and how
fanatical this group is, right and it could be leading
something from what we saw in the very beginning of
the movie with the father and talking about the rage
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virus and stuff like that. But because he's wearing the
cross upside down, right, It could be you know, that
he's there to rid the whole island of all these
evil things, including whatever people at Donu Grouth. I don't know.
It could be a cult because they left the guy
to die, carved it in his back and then let
him succumb to the virus and left him hung in there,
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still now infected, as a message to whoever they're trying
to send the message to. So we don't really know.
And I wonder if the dad knows something about it,
you know, maybe this is somebody different. So I feel
that we're gonna learn everything about him and this group,
and that's some how gonna lead to the very end
of this movie. So it's meant to run concurrently. And
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then the last movie is going to be about Jimmy
and Spike and the two different worlds colliding, right, and
like the final fight for the Island type of thing.
It could be something like that, But it's gonna be
about those two and these two vastly different lives that
these two characters have led. Right where Spike is choosing
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to go out there after having a cushy life on
the island and choosing to live out there and become
a hardened man. And Jimmy who had no choice but
to live out in the wilds out there because his
family all got slaughtered and he's had to survive on
his own, and he's created this, right, Like, this is
what Spike could become. He could become Jimmy. But will
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he accept that. I think we're gonna get something like that.
But if the tone of the second movie is more
like the end of this, I just don't know. I
need to watch a couple of things, honestly to find
out if this section of the movie was or was
not done by Danny Boyle. If it was done, you know,
like they had her him or her come in whoever
the director is and do this part as part of
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the story. But the fact that everything's being written by
Alex Carland, I have faith in it because this is
very solid. Like this, you know I gave you know,
I'm I'm close to not giving Superman or it was
close to not giving Superman the four out of five
this this is a solid four out of five. You know,
this is a four out of five giant dongs, right,
It is absolutely beautifully shot. It has a great story.
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I love the chemistry between all of the characters. I
love Spike. Spike is such an endearing fucking character in
this movie. His journey is such a beautiful fucking journey.
The scenes with his mom, even though his mom gets
a little annoying in here a couple of times, that
final scene that they share together is just so beautiful.
Ralph Fines is absolutely amazing. And even Aaron Aryl a
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Joy or I keep wanting to say Anna Taylor Joy,
but Aaron Taylor Johnson. He does a really great job
in this movie too. Like I do like him as
an actor, he just doesn't always have the best roles, right.
I loved him in the kick Ass movies, and I've
loved him in a couple of other things. I liked
him as Quicksilver as well, when he did that in
Age of Ultron, And it sucks that we don't get
to have that version of Quicksilver, even though I like
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Evan Peters version as well. It's just a little more
goofy than what we got out of, you know, the
Marvel version, the MCU version of the whole thing. So
have you seen either of these movies? Let me know, Like,
am I wrong about the ending? Of twenty eight years later.
I just don't know. I feel like there's so much
more that could be said, and it's honestly, it's even
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if I were to do a video review like the
second half, that video review wouldn't have been that long
for this thing, because that's ultimately like the story and
there's not much bad to talk about it other than
the dumb ending piece the go go power ranger rage
fighting people that's there. It's just I don't know. It's
funny because I was looking up some stuff and the
(38:05):
guy's name is actually Jimmy Crystal, so I'm wondering if
that has something to do with that. It's it's funny.
I don't know, but we'll see what happening, what goes
on with this stuff. And it does say when I'm
looking at some of the things that it was actually
his father and not just a priest, so they at
least I kind of understood that right for the whole thing.
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So anyway, I know what you're all here really for
for these many episodes, and I know that this is
a longer one than it is, and I thought that
in honor of James Gunn, that we're gonna do one
of my favorite James gun movies for this, and it's
not you know, it's not gonna be Guardians of the
Galaxy or anything like that. It's a horror movie. And
it does start Nathan Fillon as well, right, who is
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again excellent in Superman as you know, the Green Lantern
guy that right now again because I've been talking for Solo,
the name fucking escapes me because I'm terrible at names.
But we even get, you know, Michael Rooker this movie.
And what's the movie that I'm talking about, Well, it
is the horror comedy from two thousand and six directed
by James Gunn, and it is Slithers. When you marry someone,
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you promise to love them forever, no matter how much
they might change. Maybe what happens to your face is
just a theata from the Universal Pictures becomes a film
so shocking. We've got a real problem here, so disgusting.
(39:46):
It is change the face of horror. Marriage is a
sacraphon for better or worse. Much worse is hardcore. Something's
(40:17):
wrong with me? Slither gotta get that in there at
the end. Yeah, so Slither, We're gonna be watching this.
(40:38):
It's not really available. It's available for rent. That's out there,
so you can get it on most platforms for like
four bucks if you want to rent it. It's not
available on any type of streaming platform at least for
just watch for free. It was for a little while
last year. Now it's currently off, you know, it's a
part of that rotation. But it does have a good
runtime of just an hour and thirty five minutes. So hey,
(41:00):
and I think it's worth it if you want to
watch it, But check it out when you get the
chance to watch it if you can. Other than that,
thank you guys so much for checking out this episode
of the mini episode of the Terrible Terror Podcast. And
if you want to, you can follow me on all
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So thank you guys so much to check out on
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Take care of yourselves and each other.
Hey everybody, and welcome to a brand new episode of
the Terrible Tear Podcast. And I hope you are all
doing well this fine weekend. And what are we here
to talk about today? It is a new mini episode,
so uh, we're gonna talk about a couple of things.
I'm going to give you a warning because there will
be spoilers that I'm going to talk about, because I
went and saw two movies before, you know the recording
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of this podcast. One that I had wanted to see
hadn't seen yet, and it wasn't sure if I was
going to catch in the theaters, and then I had
a night where I could actually go out to theater
and catch it and I did. And then the other
one I didn't tend to see this weekend. We're gonna
start with that one first because it is not horror related.
It is, of course Superman and Superman. I don't want
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to spoil this one too much. It's very hard to
really spoil it because it's like not really like there's
nothing mystical or mysticism or like there's no twists, there's
no there's nothing weird about the movie. The other one
I am gonna spoil some because I got to talk
about a couple of things, like Superman is very straightforward.
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Just in general, I will definitely say that I very
much enjoyed Superman. I thought that it was a good
representation of the character. I think that overall, James Gunn
style really shows through this movie. There are a couple
of things I did not love about it. One would
be his parents. That's the biggest thing when you go
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to see this, maybe that's the biggest spoiler that I've
got for this one, is that they really like they
made his parents like country bumpkins. And I really really
really disliked that when you first introduced the mom and
she can barely do the phone and she's like Heaver
and Oliver Son Son, I can't believe I'm talking to
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you on this magical talking box. Like, yeah, they would
be older and maybe they wouldn't know the technology as
well as other people would, but it really just made
them seem stupid, like dumb, and like that was really dumb.
Just in general. I wasn't a big fan of that.
And while you know, there was a redeeming moment for
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his father, you know, his adoptive fodder in this movie
in a really good scene right where I was like,
why couldn't have it been like that the entire fucking
time for both of his parents. It still was a
bad choice. I just don't know why he decided to
do that choice. I do love everything else about the movie,
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or and now I love it is it's actually halfway
between like and love. I'm not like Google Gaga over
the entire movie, but as a start for this new
DCU that they're trying to do, and in terms of
superhero movies and how superhero movies are going, I'm, you know,
right kind of, I'm right at that edge where I
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really want to see where they want to go. Because
the coolest thing in the movie is that you get
to introduced to a bunch of characters that you normally
wouldn't see, right and like who the hell knows about
mister Terrific And who the hell knows about Guy Gardner?
And who knows Hawk Girl that much? You know, and Metamorpho,
Like unless you're like a real big fan of the
com books itself, you don't know these characters necessarily, so
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it's cool to see, Like James Gunn is always done
a really good job at introducing different things into these
movies because he's such a fan of the material that
they come from that it is. It just makes it
fun and it makes it entertaining to see him do
these things. And I like Nathan Fillion a lot in
this movie. I thought he did excellent as Guy Gardner.
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I think the dude that played mister Terrific was fantastic.
I think that he has one of the best scenes
in this entire movie. James Gunn does a really good
job mixing action in music, and he gets the best
one in the entire movie. I thought the storyline was
was good. It could have been better. In general, it
just seemed like it was moving along. I think that
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mister Holt that played Lex Luthor, I don't know why
forgetting his first name entirely in the back of my head.
I think he's one of the better Lex Luthors that's
been in the role. And yeah, there are a couple
of moments where I know that, you know my movie
seeing partner over here parable Pat. He was not very
excited about one specific thing that happens towards the end
movie with Lex Luthor. But I think overall he's a
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solid Lex Luthor personally personally, so I think that if
you were interested in going seeing Superman, I think you
should see it. I think that you'll enjoy it, You'll
have a good time. Is it the best out of
all the Superman's No, I mean, it's hard to beat
Superman two. Superman two really is like the quintessential Superman
movie that's out there. But I don't think that you're
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gonna really have that bad of a time watching this thing.
I know there's a lot of stupid controversy that's going
on in the movie, and some of it is really
fucking ridiculous, is over the top, really ridiculous, and I
just don't want to get into it. But the one
I did want to get into was that supposedly there
was a scene in the movie because the villain of
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the movie is Ultraman, and Ultraman was supposed to punch Crypto,
who I really liked Crypto in the movie as well.
I didn't think I was gonna like with the dog
and what they were doing, but I was like, oh, actually,
I'm kind of into it. Though there was some at
the end of the movie that was like it was cute,
but I'm like, uh, did it really need that type
of audience? Response from it. But yeah, of course they
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got that type of response with that dog. And there
was something too where there's somebody that shows up at
the very end of the movie, and I didn't like
how that character was betrayed or betrayed portrayed in this movie.
For even the moment that was there. I'm just like,
I don't get it. But the good thing was is
that we got to see Superman kind of already being Superman. Right,
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it's three months after he's announced that, Hey, I'm Superman
and we're getting into it. And so the thing with Ultraman,
when he's coming in there and this is first fight
and he's losing against him, he's that's how the movie starts.
But there was a point where they were supposed to
have a fight, and it's a jarring cut because I
think I know where it was supposed to be where
Crypto was going to get punched by Ultraman and thrown
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across the room, and test audiences hated it because they
were beating up a dog, and he was like, oh,
here's an evil man being evil and he punching a dog.
You can't do that, And so they took it out
of it and I'm just like, that's stupid. But though
the engineer does do stuff to Crypto too, and nobody
seemed to give a shit and test audiences about a
woman beating up of dogs. I don't know what that says,
but I think that's just stupid, Like, let villains be villains,
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let them do bad things, let them hate you for
whatever reason that you want to hate them for. It's
so ridiculous. And the thing is coming from the world
of horror. Nobody gives a shit about horror villains and
doing stupid shit. It's in these other mediums that it's like,
oh no, you can't have a super villain punch the
crap out of a dog. I'm not saying that you
need to watch dogs die and have him rip his
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head off and throw the thing over the place and
do all that shit, but like it's a superhero movie.
It's a super fucking power dog. It can take a
fucking punch. But overall, I mean, besides that being taken
out of it again, the rest of the movie's perfectly
fine and it's very entertaining, So I definitely I put
this out a four out of five. Baldman, you know,
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I think that that's a solid movie choice. I think
that you know, there's still gonna be some things that
your milage may bear if you go in with stinking
thinking in your brain and you're one of those guys
that's like, you know, there's a lot of people the
Snyder cut bullshit and it's like, that's just another representation
of Superman. Why can't you have multiple? Do you hate
Christopher Reeves too? Do you think that Christopher Reeves is
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the worst Superman ever because he wasn't Henry Cavill. If
I have to rank my Superman's at least theatrical Superman's
that i've seen, Christopher Reeves definitely on top, and then
I would do Henry Cavell. Then I would do this
dude whose name I totally forgetting, and then Brendon Routh.
I've only seen this dude in this movie. So and
the girl that plays hot Girl, I saw her in
something recently that she was awesome in and I can't
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remember the movie for the fucking life of me. And
the entire time I kept thinking during the movie, what
movie was she just in? What was she just in?
And it was some horror movie. I believe that she
was just in and I was like, she was great
in that, and she was pretty good in this, so well,
we'll have to see what happens. But I really want
to see where they're gonna go with these characters, and
I want to see what they do with this universe,
and I really hope that they keep it in line
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with I think how James Gunn wants to do these
things moving forward. That's really what it is like. I
don't mind the comedy aspects of it, but it wasn't
like Guardians of the Galaxy comedy that is mixed in
that movie or in all three of those movies. It
kept itself a little rounded. I think you had this
very virtuous Superman and they played that to comedic effect
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in a couple of different scenes. I love how they
portray the relationship between Lois and Superman in this movie.
I think it's one of the best ones that's been
done between these two characters because it's not just a
you know again, it's reminiscent of more of the original
Superman movies versus even the Zack Snyder Superman movies, and
we don't have to focus so much on the lowest character,
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even though we do get some good scenes with her,
and she does, like I said, I think she reminds
me of Courtney Cox a little bit like Scream Courtney
Cox is what she kind of reminds me these movies,
but just done better in all honesty, And I like
the rest of the Daily Planet, like Crew. I thought
that they all did a great job, and they weren't
in a terrible amount, but overall, I just there were
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a couple of annoying things in the movie, a couple
of great action scenes, and some really good representations of
the characters. So now moving forward, I want to talk
about the other movie that I saw on this lovely
week that we have there, and finally I got a
chance to go see twenty eight years Later. Now, I
(10:33):
know I'm a little late to the game when it
comes to that, and seeing the movie finally, I really
really enjoyed twenty eight days Later. I'm not the biggest
fan of twenty eight weeks Later, right, And this is
gonna be more spoilerfic because there's things I've got to
talk about when it comes to this, and when it
even comes to twenty eight days and twenty eight weeks
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and this, I will say right off the bat that
twenty eight years later. You don't have to see the
other two movies. It only helps for honestly, two things,
one to know what's been retcon and two to have
an easter egg in twenty eight days later, because the
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guy that Cillian Murphy plays in the very first movie,
and it's in the trailer, and I really wish it
wasn't in the trailer, and it's kind of a wasted sequel,
a sequel easter egg, to be honest, because what you
see in the trailer is what you get in this movie.
So you recognize the character, you see what the fate
is of him, and it's really stupid because, like I
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think it's again it's the most wasted one because it's like, oh, well,
what happened to the character? And then oh, he's become
one of the rage infested and then he's killed Hella
Quick by the boy that's there in the movie, by Spike, right,
and that's it. That's all you get about it. And
then if you know the ending of twenty eight weeks later,
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and this was the thing that I was kind of like,
I'm not sure why they decided to do it that way,
but I think it's just to leave everything more contained
that at the end of twenty eight Weeks Later. The
whole idea of that movie is that there's a family
that's trying to escape England, and you have Jeremy Renner's
character come into there and is allowing them to like travel,
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and he sacrifices himself and they're still trying to get away,
and the father comes back the last minute and he's
kind of like raging out but not really and he's
trying to stop them. And you learned that the son,
the youngest one, I believe it's the son. He's immune
to the virus, right, but he's a carrier. And so
(12:43):
they introduced carriers into that movie just kind of like
almost like the zombie apocalypse type thing. You know, there's
one that's not affected by the zombies and can't be
you know, like a Last of Us situation. I guess
you could say maybe the Last of Us riers took
something from this, but that person is immune to the
whole thing. I think his mother is too, if I
remember correctly. It's been a long time since I've seen
(13:05):
twenty eight weeks Later. Uh. And at the end of it,
you know, the guy comes down in the helicopter and
he rescues the last two survivors of the movie, including
this kid who is a carrier of the virus that's
gonna take it to the mainland. And kind of it's
a bleak ending in that second movie because it's kind
of like saying that, hey, it's gonna spread because even
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though this kid's immune, he can still carry the virus
to other people, and other people can become infected in YadA, YadA, YadA.
And I know there was supposed to be a twenty
eight months later where I believe that the world was
going to be infected or something along those lines, and
it was gonna spread even further out right. And so
since they didn't make twenty eight months later and we
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go directly into twenty eight years later, the retcon is
is that it is just contained to the mainland of England, right, England,
Scotland and those areas, So the rage virus hasn't spread
out everywhere. And that's all you really need to know
right when it comes to seeing this movie. That's it.
There's nothing really special about the first two. They don't
(14:10):
really connect in any way to this one other than
seeing Cilly and Murphy's character as a shriveled corpse and
then him getting killed. That's honestly it. Maybe there's more,
Maybe I need to look into it a little more,
but you know, I wish there was there was something
more to the connections that are there. But you know what,
it's fine. I'm gonna say this right off the bat
(14:32):
because again I'm going to talk about some stupid things
that go in there. But overall, I love this movie.
I really really enjoyed everything about this movie except for
the last five minutes, maybe even ten minutes of this movie.
And if you've seen the movie, you know exactly why
I don't like it. And I think that it's ridiculous
(14:52):
and it's hard to not and it literally is knocking
off a point for me, and I get it to
an extent. Now. I didn't watch any like explain the
endings or anything like that. You know, I'm just going
off of my own thoughts and my own brain and
whatever we're doing with this in this type of movie,
that's here. So the crux of twenty eight years Later,
(15:15):
the main ideas behind it is really it's the journey
and the growth of Spike's character. Right where Aaron Tarryla
Johnson is his dad. In the beginning of the movie,
his mom is sick and his dad is taking him
out for his first voyage into the mainland because where
they live it's this gluted island that's kind of blocked
off by the high and low tides, and so they're
(15:38):
able to cross across to the mainland when the tide
is low. When the tide is high, the water is
gonna send them out into the middle of the ocean
and they're not gonna be able to survive. They'll get
swept away and you won't be able to swim past
the currents, at least that's what his dad says, right,
And so the first part of the movie is his
dad taking him to the mainland and him experiencing it.
And he's only twelve at this point, right, and a
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lot of it is just really about the journey and
him going out there and him killing his first infected
person's first rage infected person, who happens to be a fat,
slow guy, and the dad's like super proud of him,
and then how they get chased by an alpha and
then at that point he can't hold himself together. In
(16:22):
the span of that bit of the movie, and you know,
and him basically growing into a kind of a warrior
that can survive this land is kind of what it
is because when he goes back and they're celebrating him
and he's like, uh, I'm not really a hero. Why
his dad embellishing these things? I don't understand what the
hell is going on with all this shit? And then
(16:45):
you know, he catches his dad cheating on his mom,
and his mom is basically like invalid. She's going crazy.
You know, she doesn't remember where he's at, and she
freaks out quite a bit. But things that you find
out within the movie, knowing that she has can and
that she knows about the cancer and it's only gonna
be so much longer that it is, you know, and
(17:05):
hiding that from her son, it's it's all part of
that journey that he experiences because when you learn these things,
and especially when you learn from her that she kind
of knew already that things that she does, like, is
she playing it up to put it upon her son
right to keep her son close to her? Is it
all just you know, is something like almost like proxy
(17:29):
by Munchausen, Like I have that feeling with that character
when we learn these things. But you know, he ends
up taking her out into the mainland because they see
a fire in the distance, and that fire that's in
the distance when he saw it with his dad was
a doctor. But the doctor's kind of gone crazy, at
least to them, right, the people that are on the island,
And they have a rule on the island that if
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you're out there in the mainland and you don't come
back within the lotted amount of time that you're supposed to,
that they're gonna keep you. You know, they're not gonna
look for you. You're just lost. And if you make
it back, you make it back. If you don't, you don't.
That's just the way that they do everything to keep
their society together. And so you know, they get chased
by the Alpha. They have to spend the night inside
(18:11):
of a house that ends up crumbling, and then the
alpha comes after them again and then they manage to
get back and that's when they do the partying and
stuff like that. And his dad's cheating on his mom
with a school teacher that's there because she's an able
bodied person is able to give him the affection that
he wants, and he happens to see it you know,
he sees his dad go down on this girl. I
was like, Okay, I'm not sure exactly why we're gonna
(18:32):
be showing this up, but okay, I guess that's what
I get to see here. I get to see some
dude go under somebody else's dress. So when he grabs
his mom and he knows about the he because he
talks to one of the old men that are there,
and he's like a village elder. I don't know if
he's related to anybody that's there, but he tells him
(18:54):
about the doctor. He's like, oh, you need to talk
to your father about that. And he confronts his father
on the whole situation that's going on, the school teacher
and the mom and everything like that, and the doctor
that's out there, and he says that, you know, they
found the doctor. And then he noticed that there were
just a ton of bodies that he was laying down
all over the ground and he had a fire, and
he's like, we just wanted no part of that bullshit,
(19:16):
which I completely agree with him. I wouldn't want any
part of that bullshit. If I saw a giant fucking
funeral pyre that was mil nowher in fucking Rose and
Rose and Rose and Rose bodies and obviously he's burning
the bodies. Uh am I going to be part of
that pire? Is he insane? Like what's going on? And
that doctors played by Ralph Fines, which is absolutely excellent
(19:36):
in this role. And I didn't know that Ralph Fines
was actually in this movie. And when I saw him,
I was like, oh, holy shit, that's Ralph Fines, isn't it.
And it wasn't like he was completely unrecognizable, but he
was kind of unrecognizable, Like it took me a while
to like figure out, that has to be Ralph Fines,
That's what that has to be. And so you know,
he goes on the journey and it's just a lot
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of like him. You know, he said he's he's trying
to be like the big man and stick up for
his mom and he's trying to watch her overnight in
one of the scenes and then boom, you know, he
falls asleep and slow moving zombies or rage person whatever
you want to call them, is about to get him.
And I love the tension that's built in the scene
and it's got some weird like in the beginning, it
(20:18):
has these weird like stop effects that I don't know
how to explain it exactly in the right way if
you're just listening to an audio medium. Basically, like somebody like
they take their shooting with bows and arrows because it's
quieter than guns, right, and then probably that's all they
really have. And so when they shoot the bow and
arrow and they shoot the arrow at the rage person,
(20:39):
then they hit him, and then the camera does this
like almost it's not quite a matrix turn, but it's
almost like a freeze frame, and it's it's effective in
what it's doing, but it's just kind of jarring at
the same time, you know, I don't know, And it's
weird because it even feels like the film grain changes
to where it's like clean to where it's kind of
like not staticky but like more raw foot it's just
(21:03):
like not processed in the way that it's done. Like
it goes from like an actual film stock to digital
and you can you have that jarring shift, and it's
whenever these rage people come out, and it's it's cool
to see, but it's it's interesting, it's weird at the
same time. So so you know, he ends up getting
saved in the middle of the night, and it turns
(21:24):
out that his mom protected her son, and then she
pretends the next more like, oh, I don't know who
that is. And then we meet some military people, and
that's where we learn that there are actually ships that
completely surround the island and are patrolling to make sure
that nothing gets off that island, right, that whatever is
there is contained on the island, and so even though
(21:47):
there might be people there that aren't infected, they're forced
to kind of stay there and they can't leave, right,
And so, like I said, everything here is just about
the journey of Spike and how he becomes the person
that he is. And eventually they run into one of
the military people who's the last surviving member of his group,
(22:08):
and he helps them out. He an interesting scene because
they like run into like a gas station diner, and
when they run inside, the gas has been leaking forever,
and like the mom and Spike, they're like slowly suffocating
in there, but so are the Rage like guys, but
they're still trying to come after him. And then he
fires a shot down there from the roof, which causes
(22:29):
the flames to ignite and kills all the Rage people,
but they're able to get under the gas that ignites
and the fires go above them, and at that point
he kind of becomes like the comedy relief for a
little while, and he joins them on their little journey
because he's stuck there. There's a funny thing where he's
showing him the outside technology and this boy who was
born in this world on this island in thinking that
(22:54):
maybe the rest of the world is it. He shows
them the outside world technologies, like he shows him the phone.
He shows them pictures of his quote unquote girlfriend, and
he's like, I've seen a picture like that before. That
happened to what's your name when she ate shellfish and
she found out that she was like allergic. Like it's
funny and it's good, and it's again it's more character
growth for Spike. Everything that happens is brilliant, excellent character growth.
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It is a good study of how he becomes the
person he is at the end of the movie, right
at such a young age. And so this goes through,
you know, he goes through the whole adventure and eventually,
you know, they go on this bus and they find
a pregnant, rage infected person and that person is trying
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to give birth, and the mom helps her give birth,
and the rage person helps her to the point that
she birthed as a child, and that child is a
healthy child that we think is a healthy child at
least right now, but it could be like the kid
in twenty eight weeks later, where this is another person
that's a carrier, but they're like safe from everything, but
(24:00):
they can still you know, they're they're immune, but they
can still maybe propagate the you know or progenitor or
whatever the fucking word I'm looking for, spread the virus
unknowingly themselves. So you have the zombie giving birth. You've
got a new alpha that's chasing them because they managed
to kill the first alpha that's chasing them. And this
is one they call Simon, and then it's like, I
(24:25):
believe it's Simon. It could be a different name. I
don't quite remember off the top of my head. But
all I got to know is if you want to
see swinging dick, you are gonna get it. In this movie.
There's gonna be tons of dick, and that guy has
got one huge fucking dick. So anyway, so eventually he
runs them down and but he kills the comedic support.
The last military member in a fucking awesome scene and
(24:46):
he's got like his head and he's like throwing it
around and trying to whack them with the dude's head
with the spine and everything on it like the gore.
When it happens in this movie, it's really it's good
and it's very fun and it's very eye dropping. It
has a couple of good tension moments. Nothing super scary,
though a fox did get me once in the theater,
and I was pissed off that the fox made me
(25:08):
jump when they opened the door and it just suddenly
scurried out because I'm not used to hearing foxes. But
eventually they as they're running away, that's when they meet
the doctor who it's the thing with the blow dart,
And then you have that section there where you learn
about what the doctor's really been doing. And he's creating
this like beautiful, like like piece of art out of
(25:33):
people's skulls, right, and what you see in the poster
and what you see a couple times in the thing,
and it's all the people that died and it's a
memento moriy is what he's creating. Right, Remember that you
die and remember in a way to also remember the
dead and remember the dreams of the dead. So it's
it's basically, you know, like a tribute that he's creating
(25:54):
for these people. And that's what he did with all
the bodies, and he's basically, you know, you were just
remember that you were going to die, but remember to
live your life while you do. And so you know,
he he shows the process by taking because they managed
to grab the head from the Alpha, or he does
because they trank the Alpha with morphine. And then he
(26:16):
takes them back to this place and they go through
the process of what he was doing with the fire,
where he's basically melting off the skin off of the body,
off the head, and then taking the fresh skull and
putting the skull as part of this giant like sculpture
that he's got there. And so you know, there that's
where he gets the daughter or the mom to see
(26:37):
the doctor. And when he sees the doctor, the doctor says,
you know, I can't without doing a biopsy, which I
cannot do. I can't one hundred percent confirm, but your
mom pretty much has cancer. I just don't know what
stage it's in. It's affected her brain. It could have
started with her brain, it could have spread to her
body or vice versa. It was in her body and
then it spreaded to her brain. So I can't do
(27:00):
anything for her. Basically, she's going to die and you're
gonna have to deal with it. And he's been asking
the entire time, why is my mom gonna die? And
his dad was basically like, no, your mom's not gonna die.
You know it, don't We don't know what's gonna go on. Uh,
And like the dad basically kind of lying to him
as well, right, And so you have now Spike knows
(27:24):
for certain that he's gonna die and he's getting mad
at the doctor. And I love the scene with the
mom and him. It's like one of the like, most
beautiful fucking scenes in this entire movie, because she's she
finally like comes to her senses and know that she's
dying and everything that she's experienced is because of this cancer,
and she just wants to die is basically what she
(27:46):
wants to do. And he doesn't want to take it,
and he's not taking no for an answer to that.
You can't help, but you're a doctor. You have to
do this. You have to do these things, and he's
just fighting with that whole you know that he's gonna die,
and you know she's gonna die and doesn't want to
accept that, and she wants to help him accept death
in this world. And so she has the doctor like
(28:08):
slither off and he prepares his bow is like a
little or not bow, but his little like what blow
dart guns, That's what I'm trying to say, blow dart
gun that he has that he uses on the rage
infector with the morphine and slowly backs away from the
situation as she's holding him, and she's having this beautiful
conversation with her son and basically saying goodbye to him,
(28:31):
and then he hits him with a blow dart, which
mobilizes him right drugs him up so that he doesn't
know what the hell he's doing and he can't really move,
and then she walks away with the doctor to basically
be killed and immortalized as a skull that's there. And
the doctor comes with her skull and says, put it
at the best part, and he climbs to the top
of the biggest skull pile and puts it on the
(28:53):
very top and has it look out towards where the
village is to remember her life and talks to it,
kiss like. It's a fucking powerful scene. And you know
he's been given the baby as well, and so they
he's gonna take the baby back to the village, and
you think that he's gonna stay and he's gonna come back,
(29:13):
and you know now that he's he he's experienced it,
and everything that his dad wanted to experience about being
on the mainland he's done. And more so, he's become
more capable and he's become this this you know man
at twelve years old because of the experiences that he
had on on the island the mainland with his mom.
And instead of staying, he leaves and he you know,
(29:38):
goes away from the village, but leaves the baby there.
And you have this strong thing with his dad running
out into the water as the tide is rising, trying
to get his son because he doesn't want to lose
his son who's staying out there on the mainland, and
he doesn't want to come back yet, and I'm gonna
come back and right there, that would be the perfect ending.
That'd be the perfect ending, But we left something hanging
(30:01):
in this movie that I was trying to figure out
why did we see this scene? And it was the
very first scene in the movie, Like each one of
these always have some type of well the first year
I see each one of these, Like there's thirty of
these and this starts a trilogy, right, But the intro
scene is what you see in the trailers where the
kids are watching like the Teletubbies, and then all of
(30:23):
a sudden, the rage people come in and attack the house.
And there's one kid that gets away and goes to
the church where his father is in the church, and well,
he says father, and I don't think it's his father father.
I think he more meant like the priest that's there.
But the priest doesn't see this as a as the
rage virus and these people attacking as something evil. He
(30:45):
sees it as a retribution and the time has come
and if you believe in Jesus, then you're gonna be saved,
and allows himself to be killed, but gives the kid
a cross, and then the kid hides underneath the church
as the you know, the father gets killed and then
he runs away, and then we're twenty eight years later
(31:08):
at that point and now we don't even know where
he is. I thought for a second, I'm like, is
it Aaron Taylor Johnson. Is it his character who's unrecognizable
honestly with the beard and the long hair and everything
like that, or is it somebody else, because it's definitely
not Spike, right, the Spike is way too young. He's
only twelve at this point to be that character. No, no, no,
(31:30):
that character shows up at the very end of the
movie as we see, like Spike out in the wilds,
he's cooking some fish. Again, I thought this movie was
gonna be over when he dropped off and they had
the letter and that they were just gonna end it.
But this sets up what the sequel is going to be,
right and so which I think is called The Throne
of Bone, but I keep wanting to call The Bone
(31:51):
Thrown because that would be the perfect porno title for this.
But nonetheless, so, as he's there and he's cooking his meal,
all of a sudden, couple of the runners come and
they smell him, and they start going to where he's
cooking the fish, and so he's running away and he
gets back in the corner and then all of a sudden,
it becomes go go power Ranger time where we saw
(32:13):
a scene in the beginning of the movie too when
they go into the mainland and they go into this
house and they're trying to find supplies because that's what
they do. They scavenge or they cut down trees for
fuel or whatever they're doing. And so they saw this
guy that was hung upside down and he has crawled
into carved into his back Jimmy, And you don't know
(32:34):
what the hell that is, what does it mean? Right?
And now we meet who Jimmy is, and Jimmy is
the kid from the beginning of the movie that now
runs around with this goofy gang of people that beat
the crap out of the Runners and like power Ranger style,
like literally they're doing flips and shit, and it's it's
(32:56):
even gorrier, and there's like rock music that's playing chuck
as they're killing the things, and it's just so silly.
And you have this beautiful fucking movie, this absolutely beautiful
fucking movie that you've got, and this beautiful fucking ending,
and then you have this I don't know what this is, right,
(33:17):
and I get it that it's to bring back Jimmy,
and it's leading up the next film. I want to
see the next film, but I don't know what the
tonal Shift is really going to be. And so like
my thoughts just in general, like what the next movie
is going to be is kind of I think it's
gonna be just about Jimmy and Jimmy's rise right to
(33:39):
being the leader of whatever this group is. And then
when we get to the third movie, because like I said,
it's supposed to be a trilogy, and I think all
this is being written by Alex Garland and Danny Boyle
is supposed to direct the first and the last one,
but it's somebody different in the second. But Danny Boyle
is one of the executive producers and his very hands
on with the movies. What I've heard, Uh So with
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the second movie, I think it's all about Jimmy, and
it's all about that group and what happened to him
after he got you know, he ran away, and who
he meant and how he trained or whatever, and how
fanatical this group is, right and it could be leading
something from what we saw in the very beginning of
the movie with the father and talking about the rage
(34:20):
virus and stuff like that. But because he's wearing the
cross upside down, right, It could be you know, that
he's there to rid the whole island of all these
evil things, including whatever people at Donu Grouth. I don't know.
It could be a cult because they left the guy
to die, carved it in his back and then let
him succumb to the virus and left him hung in there,
(34:42):
still now infected, as a message to whoever they're trying
to send the message to. So we don't really know.
And I wonder if the dad knows something about it,
you know, maybe this is somebody different. So I feel
that we're gonna learn everything about him and this group,
and that's some how gonna lead to the very end
of this movie. So it's meant to run concurrently. And
(35:05):
then the last movie is going to be about Jimmy
and Spike and the two different worlds colliding, right, and
like the final fight for the Island type of thing.
It could be something like that, But it's gonna be
about those two and these two vastly different lives that
these two characters have led. Right where Spike is choosing
(35:29):
to go out there after having a cushy life on
the island and choosing to live out there and become
a hardened man. And Jimmy who had no choice but
to live out in the wilds out there because his
family all got slaughtered and he's had to survive on
his own, and he's created this, right, Like, this is
what Spike could become. He could become Jimmy. But will
(35:51):
he accept that. I think we're gonna get something like that.
But if the tone of the second movie is more
like the end of this, I just don't know. I
need to watch a couple of things, honestly to find
out if this section of the movie was or was
not done by Danny Boyle. If it was done, you know,
like they had her him or her come in whoever
the director is and do this part as part of
(36:13):
the story. But the fact that everything's being written by
Alex Carland, I have faith in it because this is
very solid. Like this, you know I gave you know,
I'm I'm close to not giving Superman or it was
close to not giving Superman the four out of five
this this is a solid four out of five. You know,
this is a four out of five giant dongs, right,
It is absolutely beautifully shot. It has a great story.
(36:38):
I love the chemistry between all of the characters. I
love Spike. Spike is such an endearing fucking character in
this movie. His journey is such a beautiful fucking journey.
The scenes with his mom, even though his mom gets
a little annoying in here a couple of times, that
final scene that they share together is just so beautiful.
Ralph Fines is absolutely amazing. And even Aaron Aryl a
(36:59):
Joy or I keep wanting to say Anna Taylor Joy,
but Aaron Taylor Johnson. He does a really great job
in this movie too. Like I do like him as
an actor, he just doesn't always have the best roles, right.
I loved him in the kick Ass movies, and I've
loved him in a couple of other things. I liked
him as Quicksilver as well, when he did that in
Age of Ultron, And it sucks that we don't get
to have that version of Quicksilver, even though I like
(37:21):
Evan Peters version as well. It's just a little more
goofy than what we got out of, you know, the
Marvel version, the MCU version of the whole thing. So
have you seen either of these movies? Let me know, Like,
am I wrong about the ending? Of twenty eight years later.
I just don't know. I feel like there's so much
more that could be said, and it's honestly, it's even
(37:44):
if I were to do a video review like the
second half, that video review wouldn't have been that long
for this thing, because that's ultimately like the story and
there's not much bad to talk about it other than
the dumb ending piece the go go power ranger rage
fighting people that's there. It's just I don't know. It's
funny because I was looking up some stuff and the
(38:05):
guy's name is actually Jimmy Crystal, so I'm wondering if
that has something to do with that. It's it's funny.
I don't know, but we'll see what happening, what goes
on with this stuff. And it does say when I'm
looking at some of the things that it was actually
his father and not just a priest, so they at
least I kind of understood that right for the whole thing.
(38:26):
So anyway, I know what you're all here really for
for these many episodes, and I know that this is
a longer one than it is, and I thought that
in honor of James Gunn, that we're gonna do one
of my favorite James gun movies for this, and it's
not you know, it's not gonna be Guardians of the
Galaxy or anything like that. It's a horror movie. And
it does start Nathan Fillon as well, right, who is
(38:47):
again excellent in Superman as you know, the Green Lantern
guy that right now again because I've been talking for Solo,
the name fucking escapes me because I'm terrible at names.
But we even get, you know, Michael Rooker this movie.
And what's the movie that I'm talking about, Well, it
is the horror comedy from two thousand and six directed
by James Gunn, and it is Slithers. When you marry someone,
(39:19):
you promise to love them forever, no matter how much
they might change. Maybe what happens to your face is
just a theata from the Universal Pictures becomes a film
so shocking. We've got a real problem here, so disgusting.
(39:46):
It is change the face of horror. Marriage is a
sacraphon for better or worse. Much worse is hardcore. Something's
(40:17):
wrong with me? Slither gotta get that in there at
the end. Yeah, so Slither, We're gonna be watching this.
(40:38):
It's not really available. It's available for rent. That's out there,
so you can get it on most platforms for like
four bucks if you want to rent it. It's not
available on any type of streaming platform at least for
just watch for free. It was for a little while
last year. Now it's currently off, you know, it's a
part of that rotation. But it does have a good
runtime of just an hour and thirty five minutes. So hey,
(41:00):
and I think it's worth it if you want to
watch it, But check it out when you get the
chance to watch it if you can. Other than that,
thank you guys so much for checking out this episode
of the mini episode of the Terrible Terror Podcast. And
if you want to, you can follow me on all
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(41:24):
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(41:45):
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So thank you guys so much to check out on
this mini episode. We'll see you next time for Slither.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal
Gregg Rosenthal and a rotating crew of elite NFL Media co-hosts, including Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolfe, Steve Wyche, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic get you caught up daily on all the NFL news and analysis you need to be smarter and funnier than your friends.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.