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August 11, 2025 106 mins
Kyle welcomes back Dr. Joye Jeffries Pugh to discuss transhumanism, spiritual warfare, and the dangers posed by technology and AI on the pineal gland and the importance of understanding the soul, spirit, and body, in the ongoing battle for free will and spiritual awareness.

00:00 Introduction to Transhumanism and Spiritual Warfare
02:54 The Pineal Gland: The Holy of Holies
06:14 Understanding the Soul, Spirit, and Body
09:09 The Attack on the Pineal Gland
12:14 The Role of Technology in Spiritual Warfare
15:03 The Dangers of Transhumanism
17:57 The Power of Choice and Free Will
20:48 The Connection Between Frequency and Spirituality
24:11 The Manipulation of the Pineal Gland
27:03 The Future of Humanity and AI
29:57 Conclusion: The Battle for the Soul
01:01:48 The Impact of Technology on Mental Health
01:04:16 Transhumanism and the Fourth Industrial Revolution
01:06:55 The Shift to Digital Currency
01:09:06 The Control of Information and Resources
01:12:06 Mind Control and Historical Context
01:14:41 The Pineal Gland and Its Significance
01:17:37 The Role of Fluoride and Modern Medicine
01:20:22 The Choice Between Good and Evil
01:22:25 Understanding Spiritual Warfare
01:26:14 The Consequences of Technology on Humanity
01:30:28 The Importance of Free Will
01:33:10 The Nature of Evil and Its Influence
01:37:30 The Spiritual War and Its Implications

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This penial gland is sitting in our brain. And if
you do a cross section of your head, the ark
of the Covenant had the cherubs over it like this,
and it had the mercy seat. And if you look
at this, our heads are the same way. And that
little penial gland right there is your mercy seat. And

(00:27):
what do the Eastern religions say. They say they bring
the serpent up their spine into this little chocola. What
they're doing is they're putting the serpent in their holy
of holies. And once you get him in that holy
of holies and it gets walked into you, you are
no longer you anymore. And that's why scripture tells you

(00:50):
that if you take the mark of the beast your history.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Hello and welcome to the Tinfoil Hat Club. I'm Kyle,
Thank you for joining me. We have a great show
planning for you guys today. I'm excited to speak to
our return guest. Great friend of the show and always
good to discuss some things with her. She is a
wealth of knowledge. We were just talking before. We actually
hear record on the challenges when you don't write fiction,

(01:27):
but when you write nonfiction, it is a whole nother
animal altogether. Right. So so in order to do that,
you have to really bring your game. You have to
do a ton of research, and that is exactly what
she has done for what we're gonna be talking about today.
I know the topic is transhumanism, but we're really going
to be discussing her book today, which is Beastmark, End

(01:48):
of Days, so you can go check her out, Doctor
Joy Jeffries Pugh. We're going to be touching a lot
of the things that are in the book today and
I think we're gonna have to have Joy back for
about fifty shows. I said this when we spoke to
Doug Camp the other day. Doctor Doug Hamp same thing
with his book. Man, There's just so much inside of

(02:09):
this and really what both of these conversations highlight is
just the depth of what the enemy is willing to
go to and does go to in order to attack us.
And I know we're going to get into it today,
but the church is just so far behind where the
enemy is and we're just asleep at the wheel. I
know we've talked about that many times on this show,

(02:31):
but that is exactly what we're going to get into
today with Joy so thank you guys very much for
being here, Thank you for listening. Going to be a
great topic and ultimately her book really gets into the
attack on the pineal glands. So we're going to talk
about what that is. A lot of people don't know
what that is, what it does, and all kinds of
things that tie into this. So we're going to get there.
But just hang tight. But thank you guys very much

(02:52):
for being here. We really appreciate, really appreciate you all
you guys supporting the show. Can't tell you how much
that means to me. Really do appreciate it. Things are
going to be changing. We're actually going to be doing
a rebrand. Ben is going to be stepping away from
the show. There's no bad blood. I know, like people
like drama and people like, you know, scandal, but there's
no scandal. We just kind of arrived at a point where,
you know, he felt like he wanted to spend more

(03:12):
time with his family and I wanted to kind of
go forward with the show. And as the show continues
to grow and it gets to the point that it
has all thanks to you guys, and thanks to the
Lord above. You know, there's an enormous amount of time
that is required to put into these shows to make
them what they are. So that's going to be traveling
for conferences and all kinds of other stuff. So I'm
going to be continuing forward. There's going to be a
rebrand that's going to happen here over the next few weeks.

(03:34):
I'll keep you guys abreast on that. So before now,
I will tell you this. You're still going to have
access to all your normal content, none of that's going
to change, but you are going to see that there's
going to be a rebranding of the show. Conversations are
going to change either, guys. If we're going to be
continue to do the exact same thing, it's just going
to be much more blatant and overt that we're going
to be talking about spiritual warfare on this show, because ultimately,

(03:55):
at the end of the day, that's exactly what it is.
And so this entire book that he just held up
a second go and a ninety nine percent of the
conversations we have, we guests, real one hundred percent always
come back to spiritual warfare at the end of the day.
So that is not going to change. You're still going
to have access to all your same content that you
had before as well, So that's not going to change either.
In the ten four high level will still exist. It's
just going to be more in the vaults, so to speak,

(04:17):
in the past, but you're going to have access to
all the same episodes that you have access to now.
So no, that's going to change. Okay. So with that, Joy,
thanks so much for coming back. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I just love you, Colin. I appreciate everything that you
do to try to really reach the world about what's
going on. And you said it perfect when you said
it spiritual warfare, and it's very real. I can honestly
say all the books that I have done in the past,
including this present one, literally have touched in some form

(04:50):
or fashion on spiritual warfare because not only writing about it,
but while you're writing about it, the attack that you
get have so many things happen to me. I mean
one time I lost a whole book. It's like terrible.
So things can really happen when you start exposing the

(05:13):
dark side, and it's a very real it's very it's
very real in the fact that even scripture tells you
not to participate, you know, in sorcery and things of
that nature, not because it's not real, but because it
is very real and it does. It has a play
against us every second of every day that we are

(05:35):
alive on this planet. It is absolutely just trying to
destroy everything we do to even preach or teach or
talk about our Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. It is
set up to try to stop every aspect of that.
And I think you can see it across our country
because churches are having problems, they're getting smaller, you're not

(05:56):
having the people come into the churches, and the ones
that seem to be are the ones that are just
absolutely bringing the world into the church. And we're supposed
to be separate. I mean, God called us out to
be separate, not to be a part of the world.
But people just don't want to come to just hear
the word of God, and that's what it's all about.

(06:16):
I'm very concerned because a lot of people think, well,
maybe you know, there's going to be another spiritual awakening
or whatever. I don't think so. I think that we're
at the point of the church of the Laa descends
where there was a luke warmness, and that seems to
be the Church that was prophesied by John the Revelator
and what God told him when he was on the

(06:38):
Iowa Patness that there would come a time when it
would be lukewarm. And I really think that we are there.
So if that's the case, then we are in the
end of days. And so the revival that some people
are hoping for, I really don't think that's going to happen.
And I really think that our world is going to
get a lot worse because of the technology that I

(07:00):
bring up in this particular new book. But what I've
been saying since I started writing all those years ago,
that as we got near the end of days, that
we would start seeing things that we had never ever
seen before. It would be it would be historical, it
would be unprecedented, and the technology, like the scripture says,

(07:20):
that knowledge would increase. It's such a fast pace and
and really that's what's happening, and we can't keep up
with it. And that's why the discussion today on trans
humanism is so important, because we as humans do not
have the capacity on our own to keep up with
artificial intelligence.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
You're absolutely right, you know. I'm like, we've had stuff
on this show whether it's technical challenges or whatever the
case is. You know, I've had entire YouTube episodes that
just for whatever reason, just decided to vanish, and you know,
people get really angry because they're like, where's the content
that you promised us? And it's like, man, I didn't
do it. You know, It's like, literally, for whatever reason,
you know, that's not there. And I can't explain it

(08:01):
because every single other thing will work just fine, but
magically that one thing doesn't happen, and so we are
under constant attack, and I think we constantly lose that
idea that that is actually happening.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well, so the evil agenda of Satan is to destroy us,
and whatever he can do in any way that he
can do it, he will do that. And if we
give into it, you know, and go along with the
thoughts that he gives us, then we can really get
caught up in things that we sometimes we feel regretful
for and we ask for forgiveness, and then other times

(08:36):
we get suck down a rabbit hole, and then it
can lead to you know, someone literally loosing their faith,
and then there is no hope when they lose their
faith like that. So you always hope that if you
do step the wrong direction, that you feel that you
really feel condemnation and you try to ask for forgiveness.

(08:58):
A lot of people don't like to forgive, but that's
part of what it says in scripture. If you're not
willing to forgive others, then of course God is not
going to forgive you or your TransPasses either. So it's
so important and what we're living in today to fight
the good fight. And the thing about it is we're
all brothers and sisters. We are, you know, God's children.

(09:21):
So the biggest thing is to work, try to work together.
I mean, I heard a podcast the other day where
a man was just really saying, when you're Christians, let's
try to stay together. We might have a little different opinion,
but let's just don't destroy what is the only thing
out there that may help the people that we love
eventually come to know, you know, the truth. And so sometimes,

(09:43):
like these topics that I talk about in my work,
they're very difficult. You know, it's kind of like sometimes
truth is a hard pill to swallow. But do you
want the truth or do you just want to keep
your head in the sand. And I just tell you
right now, you do not need to have your head
into sand because the technology that is out there that

(10:04):
can play a major role in destroying you if you
end up staying here during the time of the mark
of the Beast. And I believe that's just right on us.
So if you don't wake up and see how easy
it is to get sucked into something, you can really
get yourself in a mess and not realize that it's
going to actually impact you as a soul and where

(10:28):
that soul ends up, either in heaven or hell.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah. Yeah, there's one thing I want to kind of
read from your book if I may. It's just a
quick little section here that kind of highlights exactly what
we're talking about here, and it's kind of in the middle,
and it reads this way. It says, since the beginning
of existence, mankind has been governed by the law of choice.
Satan's plan is to take over our freedom of choice away,

(10:53):
so that mankind does evil all the time without being
able to distinguish between right or wrong. Doing your own
selfish thing as long as you were tolerant of others
has quickly become an accepted way of the world. The
Devil and his demons are preparing our world to believe
good is evil and evil is good. Through deception and
manipulation of our minds, mankind is being subliminally brainwashed into

(11:17):
accepting this paradigm shift without realizing that instead of worshiping
God the Creator, we are tolerating the worship of Satan. Today.
We are experiencing a strong delusion that the Bible has
warned us would manifest in the end of days. And
so that kind of highlights perfectly with everything we've been
talking about. And then that particular section I wanted to
start off with that today because that pretty much takes

(11:40):
us exactly with kind of what we've set up for
discussion today. And I wanted to read that because you know,
the conversation today about transhumanism, I think one of the
things we think about is, you know, there's this attempt
to you know, plant chips in our brain and become immortal.
And that's true, that is part of what transhumanism is is,

(12:00):
but we have a lot of other elements of it
that people don't typically think about. And one of the
elements that you have discussed so thoroughly in this book
that I want to focus on a lot today is
the attack on the pineal gland and how our brains
actually work and how Satan is targeting that deliberately for
destruction and control, if you will. So before we get

(12:25):
into that, one of the things that I kind of
want to get into that helps this kind of understand
what kind of where we are is the difference between
the soul, the spirit, and the body. And I know
you talked about this on about page twenty, So would
you kind of explain to everybody the difference between the soul,
the spirit, and the body so that we can kind
of have a setup for that and then kind of
get into the other stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Well, we are three and one, just like the Father,
and then we were creating his image. And one of
the things that helped me understand the spirit, body and
the soul was actually doing a lot of near death
experiences with people who had actually had in their death experience.
I had an experience that I think that I probably

(13:07):
had quit breathing and I actually stepped outside of my
body and could see it laying on the bed face
down and seeing my husband who's deceased now laying on
the other side, and how he was set up in
the bed, how he's laying totally what the room looked like,
the whole nine yards. And the thing that was most

(13:29):
interesting to me is that I still looked like me,
and guess what my mind was still with me. It
was not laying in that shell of that body that
was there on the bed. And so that allowed me
to understand that we are like a computer. You have

(13:49):
a computer and you have software in it that's kind
of like your soul is in it. If you unplug it,
or TV, if you got a cable and you unplug it,
it becomes a box. It's just a piece of equipment.
But if you plug it back in, then you get

(14:12):
programming in people's and everything that's on there. But if
you unplug it again, it becomes a box. So what
happens with the physical body, It says it goes to sleep,
goes to sleep for the grave. But the thing about
it is it is not the thing that is really you.

(14:35):
It's a part of you, but it's not really you.
What's really you, what's created by God is the spirit
body in which the physical body becomes part of. And
then your mind is literally who you are, all your thoughts,
who you are as a person. That is all there
inside of the spirit body with the soul, like that

(14:58):
if you die the moment you die, it's not later,
it's not that you're laid in the grave. In other words,
there is nobody in the graveyard. That body that we
put in the graveyard is considered in scripture as sleep.
The spirit body and the soul in scripture say it

(15:19):
never dies. Nowhere in scripture does it tell you that
that ever dies. Every near death experience, the person immediately
steps out of their body. They feel no pain, even
though the body is busted up, head cut off, the
hold nine yards whatever, whatever's going wrong, you do not

(15:40):
feel that. If anything, you are very cognizant of everything
that you can see, even though the people who are
coming up to the scene they can't see you, but
you can hear everything going on. You can see what's happening,
and you can feel the emotions of what's happening there.
And then gradually you will be pulled away and you'll

(16:01):
kind of go up it. If you're going to heaven,
you'll kind of go up and achieve like a long,
gray looking chieve until you run into people that you
know have passed away, who know you. They look like
they did when you knew them, You're familiar with them,
they know who you are. It says in scripture that
we will know each other. And that's the reason that
you do is because you still look like you when

(16:23):
you step outside the body. When I stepped out of
side of my body, I clearly would still me and
I still knew who I was, and I was able
to tell this is my room, that's my body, that's
my husband, everything. And when I was pulled back into it,
just after maybe seconds being out like that, I found

(16:43):
myself face down on that bed just like I had
seen myself, and he was laying exactly like I saw him.
Of course, it scared me so bad. I pushed up,
and you know, I was just really scared. My heart
was going one hundred miles an hour, so I don't
know if I had gotten in an area and my
oxygen had cut off, I don't really know. I did
not have any physical effects about what had happened, but

(17:06):
the thing that I knew and the thing that it
taught me, and I always believe that God let that
happen to me because he knew that I was going
to be given this opportunity to know about this information
and that people would come to me wanting to share
their near death experiences. And you know, once somebody understands
that you're doing researching, you want to know the truth.

(17:29):
Then I had people who I knew personally that they
were not coming to lie, They were not coming to
get on C and N. They were literally coming to
tell me what they saw and wanted to feel that
what they had had happened to them was a very
real experience. And I will tell you the people that
had it happened to them, they will tell you they

(17:49):
never wanted to come back. Never. There was not one person,
even the people who loved their families, loved their husbands,
loved their children, love their grandchildren, love their job, they said,
I did not want to come back. The only people
that wanted to come back are the ones that actually
actually saw what I believe was hell because of the

(18:10):
things that attack them. And I tell you, when they
got back, they don't want to do anything wrong because
now they believe that yes, there's an afterlife, and you
do not want to end up in that bad place.
So to explain again how important this is is that
at the end of days, if there's a catching away

(18:31):
which people say well, we're rapturous. Not. In the Bible,
the word catching away is and it's like the thief
in the night comes and he takes away those of
us who are his bride. When we become Christians, we
are becoming the bride of Christ. If we're alive, it
will be an instantaneous transition from what we know to

(18:52):
be just mortal here to total immortality, which is exactly
what Jesus did in the tomb when he wrote those
he did not leave his body. In other words, his
three and one stayed together, his body, his soul, you know,
his mind and who he was, everything was intact. So
when he walked around with his disciples after that, he

(19:15):
was in a resrected body. You know, Lazarus was raised
from the dead. Lazarus eventually died. Jesus was in a
resrected body. When we are in the catching away, if
we're alive, in the instance, in a twinkling eye, our
bodies will undergo kind of an energy thing that will happen,

(19:37):
and we become totally immortal. But we will have our
physical body, our spiritual body, and our mind, which was
our soul, and it will go with us. That's why
you know, you've seen all the stories about when the
grace burst open, things like that, they don't find any bodies.
If we are caught up. That's why our body is
not left because it all comes back together. So anybody

(20:00):
that's already in heaven, they are there in their spiritual body,
with their mind, their soul, their spirit. When they come
back at they're catching away, they're going to receive their
bodies out of the grave. And that could be you know,
if they were cremated and this stuff is thrown into
the ocean wherever it's at, you will bring back all

(20:23):
of what is you to you again. So everybody that
ends up at the marriage Supper, the lamb before the
end of days, as far as the Battle of Armageddon
and that's taken out before that, will all be in
resurrected bodies. In other words, they will not be anything

(20:43):
left on this earth that is physically, spiritually or our
soul left here. Nothing. And when you look at how
easy this is to do. You can take one cell
off of you, just one cell, and it's a hall
of graph at you. And what I mean by that
is you can take an egg out of a woman.

(21:05):
You can clean out all the DNA that's her. You
can put that one cell into your egg and to
that egg blows to somebody totally you, and you put
it inside of her. You artificially insiminate her when you
do that. In nine months when she delivered, she's going
to deliver a body, a physical body that is just

(21:27):
like you. And if you think about it, from the
day that you were born into this world, we are
all flaking, all skin cells all over everywhere. But Scripture
tells us that in the belly of dry bones, all
the bones and send you and everything came back together.
So it's amazing that you can think that one sell
is your physical body and that's what we all live in.

(21:50):
So we're looking at a time now that science has
gotten to the point that we can clone anything because
all you need is one cell from that individual or
that animal. I mean, we're seeing this happen with things
that have been let's say extinct for thousands of years.

(22:10):
And what they're doing is they're taking those things and
that DNA that's still intact. They're absolutely replicating that animal
or that being, whatever it is that they're wanting to replicate,
and they're getting the physical body back. But let me
just say, no way in a clone situation do you
get spiritual and who you are, who you really are

(22:34):
from Christ because that stays with your spiritual body. So
if anybody's worried about somebody clumbrum after dead and gone,
they may pull up a ability to have something walking
around like a beast of the field, which is a golum,
but it's really not you. But that kind of thing
is going to be used at the end of days
because this helps people use stem cells and all kinds

(22:55):
of things that we see being used in technology to emulate,
you know, keeping somebody alive forever and ever and ever.
If I want to, let's just say, grow another heart,
if I want to grow another ear, if I want
to grow another trachea, all I have to do is
get the cells from that off of me and if
I grow that, which you can do in a biological

(23:18):
lab that can do that when you go to use
that part and they put it in you. Where if
I had to get a heart transplant, let's say, from you,
then I would always have to take all these rejection
drugs because it's not really my actual organ. But when
it's my real organ, cale you don't have to take anything.

(23:41):
It's amazing. I mean, you know, I just think that
right now, somebody opens up a thing and says, hey,
you want to go ahead and start, you know, making
these parts like a car for you. So the technology
has been here for a number of years for the
cloning capability to where peace people we should just say, oh,
there's this thing. You can't do that, And I'm like, oh,

(24:03):
yes you can. In fact, one of the dogs that
was in the nine eleven attack and the towers sell
he rescued some dog the other people. He was a
dog that rescued some people and I think he got
killed or something. Anyway, they cloned that dog and they
said for the people who was a part of that

(24:23):
dog's life that they're the puppies which were all cloned,
were identical, not a twin, but literally identical. So our body,
our body is quite unique in that one cell, one
little skin cell, is a holographic total you if you
used appropriately. So it's important to know that all of

(24:46):
that will come back together and you will be in
a resurrected body. Now at the end of day's with
a great white throne of judgment. Those people that are
in hell that are in their physical body that still
have their mind because they're like the thief. If you
think about Lazarus, and I'm not the thief. Did you
think about Lazarus and the rich man. He specifically said
and he was dead. Okay, in that he's specifically said,

(25:10):
Father Abraham, Lazarus was dead. To let Lazarus tip his
finger in water and cool my tongue. So in his
spiritual body, with his mind, he knew who he was.
He knew who Lazarus was, He knew who Father Abraham was,
and he was already burning in a spirit body. And

(25:32):
this can be seen like with Moses in the burning bush.
He saw the bush completely burning, but it wasn't consumed.
So it means that you can experience torture and that
spiritual state while you're in hell until you get brought
back up to stand before God at the Great White

(25:53):
Throne judgment. When you get brought back up, your physical
body will be resurrected to connect you again. But then
when he says, department from me, I never knew you
into every less than darkness forever and ever, you're going
to have a resurrected body to live forever in hell.
So it's not lights out. It is complete torture in

(26:16):
a immortal state forever and ever and ever and ever.
So our bodies are very very, very very important, and
they are very uniquely made. And that was one of
the things that I tried to And since you've read
the book, you see all the DNA stuff and things
like that, I try to explain to you in this
book how important just that one sell is in your body,

(26:40):
and how it's all connected to this vibration of sound,
light and frequency. Literally we know that what to God.
I mean, the Bible tells us what was first the
word and what did God do? He spoke it into existence,
so you had sound, light, and frequency. We are all

(27:00):
sound like in frequency. It's quite amazing. So it's important
that you know that you are not a grain of sand,
and that you literally have a body. That God he
knew us from the beginning, He knew our names, he
knew everything. Because when that sperm and that egg come together,
which is something men cannot mankind cannot do, we can't create.

(27:26):
When that sperm and that egg comes together, we can
look at it under a microscope and there's this huge
explosion of energy that we can actually photograph. Well, the
law thermodynamics tells us that once energy is made, it
can never be destroyed. So at the moment of conception,
not three months down the road, not six months down

(27:49):
the road, when people think, oh, we're just aborting a
piece of meat. Absolutely not the moment that sperm and
egg come together, that explosion happens. You are all ready
spiritually mine, getting ready to get that body to start
making more sells and more sells until you were born
nine months later. And like I say, it's uniquely you

(28:13):
and I have proof of that my father things. I
feel like things happened to me in my lifetime. But
it's to help me understand and explain people, because it's
really true. When I was in my mother's roomb I
was my mom and dad's first child, and it was
back during the time because I'm old, that you did
not know what the sex of the baby was going

(28:37):
to be, and so months before it was time for
me to be born, when most people will be sitting
around thinking, well, I wonder if it's a boy and
a girl, and what kind of names, and these tap
parties to try to come up with Somebody help them
with a name or whatever. My dad had a dream
and he dreamed exactly what I would look like, that
I would be a girl, and that what I would

(29:01):
look like, I mean exactly, and that my name was
to be Joy jo ye Joy with an E, so
I mean, that's like an odd spelling of a name.
And he was not given a middle name. And I
do not have a middle name. My middle name, Jeffries
that I use on my work is my actually maiden name,

(29:23):
so it's doctor Joy Jeffers Pubert. That Jeffries is literally
my maiden name because I do not have a middle name.
He did not give me a middle name. And when
he walked in, my mother had delivered the baby. Of
course they didn't let me in back in there, you know,
that was kind of like the doctor and back in
the days, I'm really old. So when he walked in,

(29:44):
they already knew because he told my mother and everybody
what he has seen, the dream, the whole nine yards
that he picked up any more names, the whole nine
yards that he walks in. Doctor Samson's standing there with
my mother and he looks at me and says, that's
my Joy, and my mother's like, you know, amazed, because
it's exactly I'm exactly like what he said I would be,

(30:06):
so I would tell you that your father in heaven
knows when he puts that sperm and egg together, he
knows you right then. So where people say abortion is
okay up until a third month or six month, I'm
telling you that abortion it the moment, the moment that
sperm hits that egg and that cell starts dividing. It's like,

(30:32):
you can't say abortion is ever the right thing because
it's already a person. It's what I'm trying to say.
You are uniquely made. You are uniquely made, and I
know a lot of people think they're just pieces of
grains of sand flying around out in the sky. You
are not. You have a purpose on this planet. You're
going to be known as you are known, and you

(30:53):
definitely want to spend eternity in paradise with the people who.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Comviewed with a soul at that point.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yes, Oh, the soul is spirit everything because when you
think about it, Klein, when it comes together, it's light.
And what is light light sound in frequency?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yep, exactly, it's it's God. You know, we can see
in revelation that you know, God in Christ will be
our light we won't need sun and all that. You know,
they're going to be our light. So God is pure light.
So this this lead up, and that was important to
cover because it helps us understand kind of what the
enemy's tactics become from that point, right, because he can't

(31:30):
claim your soul, but he can't corrupt you. He can't
claim your soul. He just wants to destroy you, right,
he wants to hurt God. So what's the best way
for really, really I hate to say and hate to
give him credit, but a really really crafty, smart, incredibly smart,
the smartest entity you're ever going to come across that
is now seasoned to the tune of several thousand years.

(31:53):
How does one entrepreneurial evil entity decide that he's going
to try to destroy your soul? Well, that it's many tactics,
just like warfares, mini tactics on many fronts. But one
of the things that you touch upon, which kind of
leads into our next part of our conversation, is the
pineal gland. Because of how important the pineal gland that

(32:14):
sits in the middle of our brains is, And one
of the things that you talked about was how effectively
the best description that you gave, which was really awesome,
was your pineal Gland is effectively your Holy of Holies
and it is shaped like a pine cone. And I
found it so interesting when the Pope got announced the

(32:36):
other day and I was kind of looking at the
Vatican Grounds on Google Maps, and I tried to try
to determine where the announcement where he came out and
you know, addressed the crowd and everything. I found another
spot inside the grounds that is like a courtyard area,
and I think it's maybe close to Saint Peter's Basilica,
but it's this courtyard and at the top of the

(32:56):
stairs leading up to the big building that oversees this courtyard,
they had a giant pine cone statue. And this is
before you know, I really had gotten too far into
the book and had seen any of that. And so
when I was reading the book and I saw that,
I was like, oh, you got to be kidding me,

(33:17):
because it's much to your point. It's amazing how God
has put things in place to just kind of connect
the dots along this journey. So you know, the first
thing is, you know, I want to kind of cover
with everybody is please explain what the pineal gland is,
and let's start off with what exactly it does and
what it controls.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Well, the peneal gland is actually located in your area
of your head here, just kind of right back in there,
and the Eastern religions you've probably heard it called a
third eye. It has not been talking about a whole
lot because the paneal gland, even if when I started
trying to do research on it under the name peneal gland,

(33:57):
the anatomical stuff about it and the biological stuff that
were in the literature literally just kind of told you
that it was involved with your circadian rhythms, that it
was involved with your brain chemicals like your serotonins, your melatonins,
and things of that nature. And it required looking a
whole lot into it, because even the psychological aspects of it,

(34:20):
where people claim that they hear voices, it seems that
this gland is involved in all aspects of anything like that.
So I think personally that the medical side of understanding
the pineal gland has kind of been should I say limited,

(34:40):
and maybe limited because it is something that they can't
really explain how you find people when even in anything
that we encounter in this world, they'll theorize something, but
they leave it alone because they're not really really sure
what's really going on. But what that penial bland has
been shown in is your religion to do. It has

(35:02):
been used for centuries and centuries. You've heard of people
sitting in the yoga position with their feet kind of
pulled up to them and they'll be doing this little
thing called olm, which they are making a noise like
when you do that when you push your body in

(35:22):
a cobra. It's what you're doing. You're sitting yourself in
a cobra position and you are vibrating your body by
saying it's kind of like a B B buzzing that
over time, if you continue to do that makes your
body going into a vibratory state. And our bodies are

(35:47):
like tuning forks because we all are electromagnetic. Every one
of us are electromagnetic. That means that we are vibrating
based on our own frequency. And that means that you
have your own frequency and I have my own frequency,
and no two frequencies are the same. So you think, well,

(36:09):
how many billions of people are out there. They're all vibrating,
but they don't have the same sound. It's no different
than a snowflake. No two snowflakes are ever mathematically the same.
And so we are exactly like that in that our
vibratory states, our songs are totally different than anybody else's song.

(36:30):
And so you're vibrating at a certain frequency. And so
what these Eastern religions and pagan religions did is that
in scripture we know that the witch of Endoor, who
Samuel went to see, I mean, whose King Saul went
to see, to conjure up Samuel. It doesn't say that

(36:54):
that witch did not do that, because it literally she
was sitting on an oracle side. And on this planet
there are things called dragon nodes that are over certain
water areas and they produce something called tulluric energy, and
so oracle sites have an energy, and if you sit
over them, what is it doing is vibrating your body

(37:17):
at a certain frequency and changing the frequency that is you,
so that something can move through you and out of you.
So clearly the wich you endore was conjuring up Samuel
for King Saul. The Bible never tells us that's not
the case. If anything, it tells you to stay away
from such sorcery, because it is very real when you

(37:41):
put yourself in that arm state and you're changing your
normal vibration, you're allowing this penal gland that sits right
here to start spinning. And interesting enough, it kind of
makes a little movement and it looks like to me
a flickering of a tongue a little bit, which makes
you really think about out a cobra. And that's why

(38:01):
I use the cobra, because to to charm a cobra,
what do you do? You haveving a little box and
think about the little guys and they have a little
pipe and and that cobra. He comes out of that
box and he's like doing his little thing and he's
playing that little What he's doing is he's using that
vibration to control that.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
By the way, joy, I'm gonna drip the audio out
of what you just did and put all kinds of
other stuff in there. It's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
So it's kind of really just really kind of weird
as that is doing that, and he's in that little sound,
that little vibration is caught is controlling him. Well, why
is it controlling him? Because you are getting into his capability,
and you're playing that like that at a frequency. So

(38:51):
the same thing happens when you go home and it
starts vibrating. You're opening up your penial gland for something else,
played a little chin to get joy, to do whatever.
And so there is how a lot of people say, oh,
I became illuminated. You know, I saw this angel of

(39:11):
light and I learned all this great information. If you
keep doing that, it will eventually destroy you. Most people
who get into that really illumination, and when they're actually
dealing and talking with other entities, they end up usually
going crazy or their bodies start breaking down because you're
losing the frequency as to what God created you to be.

(39:33):
So it says never do anything repetition. Scripture tells you
do not chant because a chant. If you think about
the monks when they're in these huge cathedrals and they
do those chant chant chant things like that, they are
opening up a penial glant. And when I did the
research in my books about the cathedrals, which you find

(39:57):
out is that especially the Knights Templar, they had a
special understanding on how to build architecture that would utilize
the areas. Under other words, every cathedral. Gothic cathedral that
was ever built was built on top of oracle sites,

(40:18):
just like the witch Indoor set on, and they built
crypts under them, and then those huge buildings are nothing
but actually musical instruments. So if you go into one
of them, they all have a crypt. If you go
in the crypt, you lay down in the crypt and
you do something like it will literally open your penal

(40:41):
glant in the Great Pyramid, if you lay down in
the sarcophagus and you hit it, it is tuned to
F sharp, which is a resonance of earth. But what
does it do. It affects that glant and your body
starts vibrating to that same frequency, and then that would

(41:02):
allow anything to come in and control you. So what
this means is this little gland that sits right in
here in a let's just say a lizard, that glen
is right up under the skin and he can see
through it. It's a workable third eye. Well, let me

(41:24):
tell you that it's workable and humans, and I'm going
to tell you how it is. When I was in
my master's level graduate courses, I had a doctor Brennan,
who did hypnosis, and he allowed my best friend who
was sitting just as close as I mean, our desk

(41:45):
were right, you know, back in those days, their desk
was right next to somebody. And he chose she volunteered
to be hypnotized, and he literally hypnotized her and had
her doing things in that classroom that literally was just
beyond worse. I mean, she would he would say, you're

(42:08):
in the first grade. Explain the room. In the first grade,
you speak a day, and she would look around and
look around like she was literally seeing her first grade classroom,
and she said, Oh, there's Sally and she's got a
pink dress on today. And she looked over like, oh,
there's Billy. He's got blue shoes. It was just had

(42:30):
had I not known her, and I thought, man, they
had this plan. But what was happening was her eyes
were in rapid movement. It literally they were moving. They
were not open, but they were literally moving. So he
said to her, he said, you're in the first grade.
And he walked over to her desk, which was the desktop,

(42:50):
was right in front of her, and I was sitting
right there at her, and he put down a piece
of paper that had lines on it like we would
write on in college, and he said, you're in the
first grade, would you please write your name? She picks
up the pencil and for all those people that are
not old like me, we had these pencils that were
about this big in the first grade, okay, and you

(43:11):
hardly could hold them because you were trying to make
your name go through like two lines, like jay oh,
and try to keep it in the two big lines. Okay.
For people that didn't have that, If you remember that,
wul you believe Kyle that she leaned over and she
picked up a pencil, a little pencil, and she held

(43:32):
it like a big pencil, and she wrote her name
like we wrote our names in the first grade. I
was like, oh my gosh, she just did that like
I did my name in the first grade. Even her
voice sounded like a little girl. And then he said,
he says, I'm going to take you to the seventh grade.

(43:54):
And he asked them about what was going in the room,
and she explained more people and he says, now I
want you to write your name, and he took that.
He put a piece of paper down. Her eyes were closed.
I'm sitting there looking at her. It's been like rapid.
I'm never see anybody dreaming. Their eyes are going like
like this, they're not'll open. So she turns like we
all do when we write cursive. We turned the paper

(44:17):
from being straight kind of catty corner. She picks up
that pencil. How does she know the pencils lay in there?
He didn't give it to her. She picks up the
pencil and she cursively writes her name like we used
to have to make great grades in penmanship. I don't
think they do anything like that now. They do cursive writing.
But your cursive writing had to be perfected for you

(44:40):
to get it within that line. And if you went
out of that line, you made bad grades in penmanship.
You know, you didn't want to get an F in penmanship,
you know. So she wrote her name with that paper,
turn picked up that pencil, wrote her name perfectly. Her
eyes are shut. How does she know the paper was there?
And so as an example of that, because I was

(45:03):
at a conference, I said, if everybody will do what
I'm asking you to do, We're going to pass out
a piece of paper that you're going to see the
lines on. I'm going to give you a pencil. I
want you to close your name, and i want you
to write your name cursively on that piece of paper
without looking at it. You cannot do that. Well, the
thing about it is she was under okay, her eyes

(45:23):
were not open when he told her write your name.
She knew that piece of paper was there, She knew
that pencil was there. How did she know that because
she could see it through her third eye. So this
is what really got me. I had a sister at
an early age. She was with sleepwalk and the old

(45:44):
timers would tell you do not wake up a person
who is sleepwalking. You just you give behold on them
and you turn them around and say go back and
go back to bed and go to sleep. So one
night my grandmother was sleeping in the bedroom with me,
and my sister was sleeping in the bedroom my grandfather's.
Probably because we were little and we've been fighting and

(46:06):
they separated us, you know whatever, like little kids do.
I was older and I was kind of thinking at her.
I had always had a cold nose, and I'd cut
her back, and your nose is like bike spike and speak,
leave me along. But anyway, something probably happened like that.
Well I'm laying there and I'm you know, I'm awake,
and my grandmother is laying there side of me, and
all of a sudden, I see coming down the hall,

(46:27):
you know, through the night light. My little sister's coming
down the hall, just right down the hall. She doesn't
run into anything, she doesn't hit anything. She comes right
down the hall and she comes up to my grandmother,
and my grandmother's sitting there looking at her, and I
could tell I'm thinking how she doing that? Her eyes
are closed because I could see it, you know, in
the night light, that was through the hallway through there.

(46:48):
And my grandmother says what and she goes She says, Mommy,
my top's too big. And I'm looking at her and
I'm going, what are you talking about? Your top's not
too big. And my grandmother immediately realizes she's sleepwalking, and
she says, s gay, you need to turn back around
and walk down and get back in bed. And what

(47:10):
does my little sister do, Like a little robot, she
turns and goes right back down the hallway. She doesn't
step on the big grate that is in the hallway
for the heater unit that we used to have, and
all this kind of stuff she had to walk down
to like an incline. She had to take a ride
and go buy chest of drawers. She never hit anything.

(47:30):
So I'm telling you that that third eye is a
workable third eye that unfortunately we have been led to
believe was not anything workable like that, and that it
was only workable in lizards. But I'm telling you from
my research, and you know that from reading my book,

(47:50):
we have a third eye that's workable. And Satan knows that,
and that he can make us like those little cobras
connected to him. He has got you just like that cobra.
As long as you're playing that little that cobra's gonna
sit there and keep doing that the entire time you
are controlling him remotely, controlling him through what frequency sound.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I had the same experience with both my kids doing that.
It was the weirdest thing ever. In their particular case,
their eyes were open, but you could tell, like looking
into their eyes, that they were not there. Yeah they're not.
Their eyes are open, but they're not home, like their
lights are on. Nobody's home, right.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
My sisters, my sisters will look they were little like
and I think it was rapid eye movement. But when
when the girl next to me, I mean I was.
I was so engrossed in that because I love unusual things.
So thank goodn is doctor Brannan. She chose her, and
she was willing to do it. But you know, he
told us, he said, you better pay attention to what
I'm saying so you don't get hypnotized with her. But

(48:55):
I could. I watched everything he telled her. Put her
arm out like that, and it was, you know, stiff
as a board. And I'm telling you her arm, the
rigidness in it. And he was a huge man and
she was a little, you know, little girl like me.
He just stand there and try to push down on it.
It wouldn't even move. And then he would say it's
limp as a dish rag, and it would just go down, like,

(49:16):
oh my gosh. And I'm not seeing how we can
be controlled from outside the sources. But let me tell
you the thing that's really concerning, And this is like
Nanchurian candidates and people have always said, oh no, that's
not possible. Oh yes, it is. So what he did
he told her, he said, when I bring you out
of this, I'm going to have you go over and

(49:37):
open the door to the classroom. And so we're all
sitting there. He's doing saying thing he brought her back out,
this whole thing that you go through, you bring them
back out. And so she's sitting there when she comes out,
and she's kind of looking around and we're all trying
to stay real calm and just watch her like nothing's happened,
and she didn't realize she's being under She gets up,

(50:02):
she walks across the room and she opens a college
closed door, which is unheard of if you didn't ask for,
you know, for something like I am having to go
to the bathroom. I need to be excused when you
were in a college classroom when I was in college,
that door was shut and it didn't open until the
bell rang. So you better take care of your business

(50:24):
before you got in there, because you didn't. So doctor Brennan.
She goes up and she opens and she comes back
and he looks at her and he said, why's she
opened that door? And she says, here and it fills in.
This is what's interesting because when you don't know something,
it's kind of like your eye when you can't see
a blind spot, but it fills it in because she

(50:46):
can't see your blind spot and that's why people pull
out in front of some people because they didn't see
them coming, because there's a blind spot. But if you
look for it, you can't see it. You think it's
all like perfectly. Okay. She tells the teacher it was
hot in here. It was hot in the room. But
that's what she said, and we were like. He says,

(51:07):
Now I'll come explain something to you. He says. People
will say that you will never do anything or make
you can make somebody do something that they would not
normally do. He says, but this is the concern because
of the capability of this. If I want to have
you kill your mother, I can put you under. I

(51:28):
can tell you that there is a squirt gun with
water that you play in the swimming pool with in
the top drawer of the cabinet in your bedroom, and
when your mother comes in, I want you to squirt
her with the water. You know what will happen, Kyle.
You're going to kill your mom with the thirty eight

(51:48):
or whatever's in there. When she walks in, you're going
to be thinking, and you're going to be seeing that
you think it's squirt water coming out of there. You're
going to blow her away. So yes, Manchurian candidates are
very capable to be made and it can be done
with videos, and they use sound, light and frequency. And
when I first started noticing all this, they had a

(52:11):
Pokemon thing that came on and over in China or Japan,
I think it is Japan, and all the kids that
were watching ended up in the emergency rooms with seizures.
So sound, light and frequency, flickering sound going at the
same time, and they became, you know, our video systems

(52:32):
became like for example, there was one call I think
something about the guitar and it had frets running and
you acted light. You had to watch it, but what
was doing it was moving like when you used to
hypnotize somebody. You just take a little thing and just
go back and forth, back and forth. You're getting sleepy,
that kind of stuff, and you would be watching it
you got sleepy. The same thing is happening in these videos.

(52:55):
They are giving you a certain beat, which is a
bineural beat that affects the two different sides of your
brain and causes a phantom beat. And then with your
eyes a sound like frequency is effecting your penial gland
and all that's going on at the same time. This
is what happened years ago with the African shaman. Shaman

(53:17):
I think it's how they said shaman and what they
would do to get people into frenzies where they would
see other spirits and that kind of stuff. They would
sit with their drums if it's seventy two beat, to
get your body frequent sin and caught up in it,
just like a tuning fork. And what happens when you

(53:39):
stay in that beat. In other words, you can put
somebody in a room and keep beating something seventy two
beats a minute. You can kill them anyway. It's kind
of like constant. And what happens is you get into
a frenzy state, and what's being done is that penial
gland is coming open and it's allowing these spirits to
come in. And that's why your country's like Africa, the

(53:59):
Philippine and things like that that utilize that kind of thing.
You can work people into a frenzy so you can
cause you can cause massive situations. In other words, what
I'm saying is you can use a pack of people
like pack of dogs get into something. You can literally

(54:20):
do that to a lot of people and they get
that same frequency. Their bodies are all the same tuning,
and they all get the same thought processes. And this
ties back to the Tower of Babble, which was the
biggest thing that God did not like after that flood,

(54:40):
and that was that Nimrod built that tower to heaven.
And they were all of all of one mind and
one accord. And what does that mean. They were all frequency,
their thoughts were exactly the same. In other words, they
were ca acted to something. And we see this in

(55:03):
secret societies. This is when I first found out about it.
When I was doing the work on the secret societies.
You find that they use the pyramid, and they use
an all C and I at the top. Well, guess
what that is. That's depend of one. And you can
look at that eye and you can tell if you
really look at it. It looks like a little reptilian looking
to me. And so it was based on a bee hive,

(55:26):
and the beehives are all over Egyptian pyramids and stuff.
They venerated the bee, well you know what that in
the ant, But the bee, especially the queen bee, was
at the top of the pyramid. The queen bee vibrates.
Think about bees and it's all going out to the

(55:48):
worker bees, and they do all the work. They build
a high they do everything. They're all working in unison.
There's no individuality once. I'm not going over here and saying,
hey today, I think I have a PEPs of cola. Today,
I'll have a Coca cola. This one over here wants
something else. No, they're all connected to the frequency. They're

(56:10):
all working twenty four to seven for the hive. And
if the queen bee dies, guess what happens? The worker
bees go. So what has been satan thing with secret
societies who have been bringing all this knowledge down through
the ages to get to our day is to get

(56:33):
all of us to go. I wouldn't mind having a
brain like Alexa. All I have to do is connect
up to neuralink and I can think. I don't have
to touch nothing. I can think it and make it happen.
And if I want to know something, I don't have
to read all these kind of books. I don't have

(56:55):
to go to school for years and years. I can
just go, okay, joy in my head? When did when
did when did Christopher come us discover America? I've never
read about it? Maybe anytime and I'm going to know
fourteen ninety two is the really exactly And if you
if you really think about it, Kyle, if we look

(57:17):
back over the history of humanity when we got into filmmaking,
there was always films coming out before their time, no
different than nine to eleven and the Twin Dours that
we had practiced that scenario, we also had practiced. If
we have a pandemic, like we just went through, all

(57:39):
of that's been practiced and put out there laughingly because
they see us system little cobras and they're displaying that
long tweek tweek week week were having us to do
like this, and the moment that we agree to become
part of technology, you fulfill what Daniel told us at

(58:02):
the end of Day's there would be a mixing of
clay and iron, meaning we are made from clay. Artificial
intelligence is made from metals work. You know, it's not human,
it's not flesh, it's not DNA, And the moment you
connect to it, it changes your frequency. So I have

(58:26):
my own song. God knows my song. It's coming out
of my pineal gland all the time. He knows the
number of hairs in my head. He knows everything about
me biologically. He knows what I'm thinking, and that's how
we connect to him. This penial gland is sitting in
our brain. And if you do a cross section of

(58:46):
your head, the arc of the Covenant had the cherubs
over it like this, and it had the mercy seat.
And if you look at this, our heads are the
same way. And that little penial glend right there is
your mercy seat. And what do the Eastern religions say

(59:09):
that they're doing when they're sitting there going arm They
say they bring the serpent up their spine into this
little chukkra that gives them this great illumination. What they're
doing is they're putting the serpent in their Holy of holies.
And once you get him and that Holy of holies

(59:30):
and it gets walked into you and you get connected
to Ai, you are no longer you anymore. And that's
why scripture tells you that if you take the mark
of the beast, by golly your history, you're no longer
able to be saved because you are no longer human.

(59:53):
And whose fault is it? It's your choice, and it
will come down because what's going to happen Elon Musk
is already putting a lot of these chips in people,
and they're working great because there are people who are
pair of you know, paer of allegiates and things like that.
They can't use their hands or whatever their thought process.
It's a good technology for the right reasons. But in

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the hens of evil men and the hens of Satan,
this little area up there in our heads controls us biologically.
So in other words, back in the nineteen sixties, there
was a doctor named Jose Delgado and he worked with
the CIA, and they wanted to figure out how could

(01:00:39):
we effectively take over the Russian embassy without firing a shot.
And that's been Satan's thing, how can I take humanity
without firing a shot? And what they found if they
could use electromagnetic ways beamed at the end of embassy,
because electromagnetic ways would change our frequency, so people start

(01:01:01):
experiencing headaches and dizziness. I mean, we've recently heard about
Havaanah syndrome, same thing and these embassies. So if I
aimed this beam at you, I could literally make your
heart speed up, make you panic. In other words, I
can biologically control you at a distance without ever touching you.

(01:01:22):
Are you even knowing that I'm around at How easy
is that? Are cell phones? Okay? You can be out
in the middle of timbuck Ti. You can be around
billions of people. And if I've got your telephone number,
guess whose phone's going to ring? And nobody else's your phone.

(01:01:45):
If I've got your number, your vibration number, guess what happens?
I got your control too. And if I can control
you use an electromagnetic being, particle beams and making you
biologically not be able to think straight, get dizzy, have
panic attacks. I mean, they can do all kinds of

(01:02:06):
things to you. And do you know you cannot physically,
you cannot stop it. In other words, if I said
we're gonna try this, you get that particle beam thing
and you shoot it to me, you're gonna be controlling me.
Do you know that I can I can't go like
I know that that's happening. I know he's doing that
to me. Stop stop, slow my heartbreat down. Do you
know I can't do it? You have power over me,

(01:02:26):
just like a remote control. And there was a movie
that George Clooney had where they remotely controlled a donkey.
So it's been out there it's been out there. This
is technology that's been worked on by our CIA because
they know they know this Pinionland And I really think

(01:02:48):
that the reason people are schizophrenic now more that's happening
more bipolar, that people are connecting their brains to certain
things that are listening to by neural beats. One beat
this year will be and it's causing this phantom beat.
And you can see this advertised on TV. You know
you can't sleep use this. You better be very careful

(01:03:09):
what you're putting in your ears to like the little
just always remember the cobra. You're controlling it. If you're
listening to something, then it's controlling you the same way.
And there will come that day because technology, I mean,
if you get a computer today, it's already outdated by
the time you get it. Our technology is absolutely turning

(01:03:31):
over within less than eighteen months complete technology. And what's
going to happen because of this neuralink and the people
who have already gotten it. They can do things six
times faster than you and I. Okay, so for example,
where I have to sit and look at a keyboard
to type something, they're just thinking it. How much faster

(01:03:53):
can you think something, then you can physically do it. Okay,
if everybody starts getting connected like that, then you imagine
if you're in a business working and let's just say,
you've got to use that computer all day doing something
with your fingers, and everybody else is just sitting there
thinking it, and they're getting six times work done faster
than you. Well guess what you're facing to get replaced

(01:04:16):
unless you can keep up with them and technology. Right now,
if you had to go up against Alexa and just
ask her something, and you ask you something, think how
lout you would last, and just remembering are doing mathematical
equations without a computer. I mean she does it without
a computer. She literally is like instantaneous stuff. Okay. Once

(01:04:41):
you get connected to the computer, interface with the brain,
and descend into the technology back and forth to it,
then it's instantaneous, just like it is with her. So
people to keep up with technology as it actually gets evolved,
you've got to be connected to it, and the only

(01:05:04):
way is transhumanism. So that is why Elon Musk, Claus Swab,
all of them are pushing transhumanism because it's the only
way to get to what they are now calling the
fourth Industrial Revolution, the reset of humanity. And if you

(01:05:25):
don't want to go there, you're going to be seen
is somebody that we can just discard because you're not
wanting to go with us, and for us to go there,
you either go with us or you're just gonna have
to choose that guillotine and get out of here one
of the other things. You'll have a choice, because Satan
cannot kill you. It's gonna have to be your choice

(01:05:47):
to choose that mark. And the moment you choose that mark,
you have told God, I want to be something other
than your child. I'm not happy with the way you
made me. I can be this. This is where I
can go. They can put my memory here, they can
redo my parts. I'm going to live forever in this state.

(01:06:11):
But what it is, you and I are a child
of God, like I tell you, when we were made,
we were sent from God, made like that. When you
change your frequency, you are no longer you, and you
are no longer connected to God the Father. If you
do that, it is over. So Satan knows everybody's going

(01:06:35):
to want to jump at that, because how wonderful it
would be if I didn't have to read a book
and all of a sudden, I just had that knowledge
just right here in my head. If I wanted to
bring it up, well, right now, I'm telling you right now,
the people who have got that neurlink are six times
faster than you and I, And so everybody's going to
jump on the band wagon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeah, you're going to feel like you're going to be
left behind if you don't, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
And then the other thing is money is going to
go in cyberspace. You will not be able to buy
sellar trade because you won't have any money. And don't
think hide and gold under your bed or silver our
money dig a hole out there. When it goes to cyberspace.

(01:07:21):
It can only be exchanged in cyberspace. You can't eat gold,
you can't eat silver. So in other words, I got
all this gold, a million dollars worth gold, and I
need something to drink. Somebody else can go down there
and put their hand in a palm and use you know,
Amazon one to biologically determine who they are and send
it to the sky out there to take it out

(01:07:41):
of their bank account. They're not going to give it up.
They're not going to give their water up because it's
going to be allocated. How many you got if you
give it up a million dogs? What are you going
to do with a million pieces of stuff gold? You
can't eat it, you know. So it's the perfect way
to put it. And something's going to happen to force
us to do that. And we already see it happening now,

(01:08:02):
because you know, we're seeing the digital dollar, it's being promoted.
Digital currency is coming.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Do you see where they just got rid of pennies?
They're not going to make any more pennies.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Right, and now they're already talking about I think my
best friend said the nickel. They weren't going to do
that either. So all that's going away. And for example,
the banks are closing. If people don't believe this, I've
got new data that I wish I had brought over
here where we're doing this that, But but this re data.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I consolidate it down right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
And because they don't need banks, like, for example, you
don't need to go in there to pakesha check, you
don't need to go in there to borrow money, you
don't need to go in there to do anything, because
all you have to do is go online, type in
your number, it sends that wherever and sends your money
to wherever. We don't need to tell her. We don't
need somebody that goes, oh well, hey, miss so and so,

(01:08:53):
I said, glad to have you had you know, or
you want to save your money, what you want to do.
None of that's needed. So they're banks, and I'm talking
about big banks all over this country. And if you're
not aware of that, you just need to do some research,
because it is really happening. Because everything is going to
go in cyberspace. Well, let's just say when it does that,

(01:09:14):
they already know biologically how you are, because of your
frequencies and stuff like that. When you go down to purchase.
Let's just say you decide you want to get near
a linked and you want to go down there to purchase,
and you've got the mark of the beast, and you decide, hey,
I like to have some candy. Well, guess what, you've
got diabetes. Guess what, you can't buy candy. It will

(01:09:36):
not skin if you've got heart disease, all that stuff.
You're going to be controlled. Everything you have will be controlled,
the amount of money you have, the kind of work
you do. You are becoming a worker. B when you
connect up to the frequency of the hive that is
starlinked above us. This is the other thing. I have

(01:09:58):
been watching the sky since I was a little girl.
I mean, I'm just I'd love to sit on my deck.
I could sit out there all night long and watch
the sky well, the especially unidentified aero phenomena that is
really real and really up there. But if you have
not seen the number of starlink satellites that's in low

(01:10:19):
earth orbit, I'm telling you that they are hundreds, if
not thousands of them. And as they start coming towards you,
if you're looking like it to the north and they're
coming towards you and you're sitting that it moves with
the earth, It rotates with the earth. But they're like
this far apart. They're like dot dot It's just constant.

(01:10:42):
Do you think you can run from that? Absolutely not.
And people who think that it can build a hole
in the ground or get underwater, hold your breath. You
cannot run, you cannot hide. You can put all kinds
of food whatever else. But if you can't get to

(01:11:03):
your money, you can't get to your retirements, you can't
get to your health insurance, you can't get to a
doctor think about no buying, no selling, and no trading,
and they go, well, you know, you have a choice.
You can sign up and we will be glad to
hook you up today for your ner linked eye the

(01:11:23):
sky or you know, down here on the courthouse, we've
got the guillotines set up, and you know that's your option,
your choice. Though.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Yeah, there's there's so much that you've touched upon over
the last several minutes. I was actually just doing a
quick search and it's so funny. I was sitting here
listening to you talk and I just let you go,
letting you go, let you go, because you literally made
my job easy today because I can't tell you how
many things that I had written down to ask you
about or to get into, and you you hit almost
every one of them. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Well, you know that I've studied this so long. It's
all connected, connected back in history.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
I mean, it seems it doesn't seem like it at first,
because one, you know, the number one tactic of all
this stuff is seemingly, oh that's crazy, nothing to see here,
move it on, don't pay attention, you know, and that
that always seems to be tactic number one because it works.
People People just like, oh okay, well then there's nothing

(01:12:20):
to see and they move on. But literally, just to
go back a little bit, you know, with all of
the mind control and things that you just touched upon,
and this, this stuff has been around since the beginning
of time, right, this this goes back to before the flood.
I'm sure the watchers could do all this stuff. You know, this, this,
this knowledge all goes back, right, all goes back to
the beginning. And you know, if any of you were

(01:12:43):
listening to this today and you think that we're wackados
and it's not true, I challenge you right now, go
ahead and get on your computer and go look up
some of the CIA D classified Freedom of Information Act
files on remote viewing and men churion CA date stuff,
mine control stuff. I have documents. I have seen documents

(01:13:04):
where they literally have taken people and they have basically
put them under and programmed to do exactly what Joy
talked about. In this particular case, it was to tell
this girl to literally go here, pick up a briefcase.
It's filled with the bomb, go into the bathroom, put
it down it, you know, set it up, walk out.
And she did every single thing and then woke up

(01:13:24):
and had no clue that any of that. Sirhan, Sirhan
who shot Robert Kennedy, Robert Kennedy Junior, basically has come
out and said that he doesn't believe Sirane Surhan killed
his father because and it sure seems like Sir Hann
Surhan was was a Manchurian candidate style person who was
programmed by the CIA to commit these acts. The whole

(01:13:47):
LSD movement back in the day, all of this stuff.
There's documentaries on Netflix right now. You can go look
at They have been working on how to break and
how to manipulate and how to control a human mind forever.
All comes back to this gland and ultimately they're just
stool pigeons and tools of Satan. And there's so many

(01:14:08):
things that you touched upon too. The other thing with frequency,
and I had written this down from your book, how
everything in nature resonates at a certain frequency, whether that's minerals,
periodic elements, whatever the case is, right nature everything has
a song, Everything has a frequency, Like Joyce said, even
the earth resonates it. I think you put it in

(01:14:30):
the book seven point eight hurts, and that's human resonance.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
That's human resinence exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
And in nineteen fifty three, you know here we had
music the Rockefeller Foundation not a good anytime you hear Rockfeller,
your ears should go up because it's not good. It's
it's basically a lot of wicked stuff's been done. The
Rockfeller Foundation made an agreement to changed the frequency of
music from four hundred and thirty two hertz to four
hundred and forty and all that is to deliberately throw

(01:15:00):
our brains open for attack. One other thing that you
didn't touch upon, and I know we touched upon a
little bit of by neural beats and some of the
frequency stuff. But one of the other things that I
found fascinating that I wanted to talk to you about today,
and I'll try to spin in the book. I was
also I had I had written down here to lay
lines and all that stuff too, and you you brought
that up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Well we get. I mean, each one of these topics,
you can do it. You can do ours. I'll just
nothing but gothic cathedrals, I mean energy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
It's totally crazy because that then it gets into the
road recrusions, and then that gets into secret societies or
the like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
It's all these little threads.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Together coming back play not coming back for like fifty
five more shows. Basically, yeah cool. One of the things
about the glen though, the other thing too is fluoride. Yes, floride.
This is interesting to me because I think we just
saw in the news the other day that Florida and
Ronda Santis actually just made it a law where they

(01:15:59):
can know or put fluoride in the water. And so
talk a little bit, if you would, about kind of
what the use of fluoride and how that affects the
function of the gland.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Well, you know, this gland is a transmitter and receiver.
It's actually made out of crystal. It's a type of crystal,
but it's a count sim type crystal that's in your head.
So you know, when we started learning how to make
transistor radios, we had radio waves, which are electromagnetic ways
that go through the air, just like for your cell

(01:16:30):
phones and things. Love that nature, but it affects you
and affects your head the same way. But we could
send you know, the information to a radio and it
would come out and you'd be sitting there listening at it.
I mean from a distance, So the pineal gland has
this capability to do the same thing. It transmits, it receives,
transmits and receives. So they really believe that fluoride kind

(01:16:54):
of calcifies that area and can cause some problems. So
you know, so, well, how do I decalcify it? Well,
I think that the thing about it is it's kind
of like they've kind of kept us from having maybe
a relationship with the Lord if they could to try
to block all of that. Because when like Ray Stevens

(01:17:15):
had a song turned your radio on, he's talking about
listen to the music good vibrations of the Lord, you know,
or you listening to the Lord and listen to Satan.
It's really quite clear that if you you know, you
have the capability of transmitting receiving. So if you get
Satan on your receiver and you're thinking Satan thoughts, you're
gonna get Satan filling you up in the same way

(01:17:35):
with God. This way it tells you always think on
things good and keep your mind away from evil. But yes,
that glen can become calcified and do little weird kinds
of things with the calcification. But it's also a part
of the calcium that causes the ions to do certain things.
So I'm thinking, you know, I don't want to cause

(01:17:56):
a problem, and I had did not ask you about
talking about the h I don't want to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I just say it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Okay, the shot, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
The execution. Yes, there you go. I just said it.
So I covered us both right there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
They had the graphine in it, and I talk about
the graphine how that it can lock to it in scaffold.
So you know, when I was young and we had
an antenna on a TV, if you had rabbit ears
on the TV to give you a better reception, if
you took and you put tenfour on the rabbit ears,

(01:18:33):
you got better. Is it so? Same thing? You had
to be careful of what the drugs are that they're
giving us, how that is manifested in the body, because
what they're making you it's a better tuning fork to
connect to. Does that make sense. They're making your body
a better tuning fork. They're making you a better antenna.

(01:18:56):
So the more they can put things in your body
to make you connect easier than when they do these connections,
then that connection is so connected to you you can't
get away from it because once they connect to you,
it may sound great to start off with you and
you're doing your thing, but then it's like if you

(01:19:17):
go outside and I use earphones, Okay, when I'm mowing,
if I run through another frequency of another FM station,
you know, I might be listening to one music over here,
but when I get to right here, I get into
another beam or something. Long time ago, you could hear
you'd hear this one kind of go off, and then

(01:19:37):
you'd hear the other one come on. So what's going
to happen is once they get you connected, then you'll think, oh,
this is great, this is great. But what happens is
they turn you off, and they turn off so you
won't even realize that you are no longer you. You

(01:19:58):
will not seek red amption, you will not know that
you have just given up really your eternal inheritance for that,
and that's why it's so important. I think the scripture
was so important to try to teach us about Jacob
and Esau because Esau gave up his inheritance, and God

(01:20:21):
believes your inheritance should be your number one goal. Your
soul should be wanting to get back to him, and
you should live your life accordingly so that you get
back to paradise. That's what he created for you. But
he gave you a mind to choose. Do you want
to do that or you want to be with Satan.
I mean, that's why he gave us free will. It's

(01:20:43):
your choice. He can take you to the water, he
can show you the way. He can do everything, just
like he did. He told the rich man, I sent prophets,
I did whatever. You had an equal choice. You ended
up in hell.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
It doesn't matter who I said. They're not going to listen.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Your family has to make their own choice. It ever
sends anybody hell, you send yourself. And the same thing
with this kind of thing. If you decide to quit
being who you are and you connect up to any
of that, it's going to change you and you are
no longer you. You will not even understand that you're

(01:21:16):
no longer you, because they will have full control. Like
I'm trying to tell you, this has been in all
my books, from the first book I ever wrote, right
up until now, I've been showing how that technology is becoming.
And it's not much like we're talking about with the CIA.
Those records are available. You can see them it's very real.
And so if you look at that and how technology

(01:21:36):
is right now, don't dare give up who you are
as a child of God to do that, because if
you do, you are doing just the same thing that
Esau did. He wanted, He had a fleshly desire to
fill his stomach overthinking, my paradise is in heaven, which

(01:22:01):
one are you gonna want? And Satan knows, just like
you saw when you show what starts hurting, when you
start feeling sick, You ain't got any water and you
can't buy seller trade, and your baby's crying, and your
mother's dying over there, and your father's having a heart
attack and you can't get to anything. He's going to
have you, just like he had Esau, hungry and willing

(01:22:24):
to give up his inheritance for just nothing but soup.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Jacob I loved and Esau I hated.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Oh my gracious, if Justin was here right now, his
little heart heart, Justin the other day, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we had a great time. I hope we get to
go back on that. We did. We did a show
on the Garden of Eden, which yeah, really takes you
in some depth as well. But to understand that we
have got on this planet with us, something that is
after us. It is real, It is not fake, It

(01:22:54):
is not conspiracy. And that's the thing about it is
that I'm trying to show this from a Christian standpoint.
In brings in a lot of the extra books out there,
but I try to stay as much as I can
in scripture to show you in scripture it's written like this,
and then let somebody like him add that additional stuff

(01:23:14):
for you to see that this is the only way
it can be. It's not like a fake thing. We
are dealing with a serpent like you started off this
show with. That is brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
I hate to give them credit, but it's just you
got to know your enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Man, and if you don't know, you're any good, any
great like Paton MacArthur. The big thing is you've got
to know your enemy for you to be successful, because
if you don't know what you're fighting against. And let
me just say this, we are a box and blindfold
with demons. I have a good friend that wrote a

(01:23:51):
book like that. But it's true, you can't see what's
out here, but we know what scripture tells us that
when Elijah could see all the heavenly forces and everything
going on around him. He saw that when you see
into that other realm, it's very real, you know, these beings.
For example, when Jesus was here and the man was
in the tomb and come walking out, you know, the

(01:24:13):
graveyard and all that kind of stuff, and he had
all these demons attached to him. He had two thousand
of them. And Jesus was talking to the guy and
he said, what's your name? He says, Legion, for we
are many. They knew Jesus says, why do you come
before the time? Did you come before the time? They
knew it was Jesus. And then when he casts them
out and they went into the swine. Those things can

(01:24:36):
live in other beings besides us, but they were literally
controlling that person. I mean even Mary Magdalene had seven
of them. So these things have been here before the flood,
they were here after the flood. They're still here with
us now we can't see them. But I really did

(01:24:57):
believe this at the end of days, that a this
has been opened up, And I really think that cern
might have had something to do with that. Pierson the bill.
The thing about it is the amount of need for
people who have bipolar and schizophrenia have escalated. I'm talking
about beyond words, so much so that even the Catholic

(01:25:22):
Church who trains exorcists had to hire one hundred and
fifty two of them a couple of years ago because
they can't keep up with the demand of people having
and they know it's not something you can fix with
a pill. And even schizophrenia you can't fix with a pill.
I mean, they can give you all kinds of stuff
with you, but they can't fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
To that point, that's a good junction point, because I
was thinking about that right before you said that. You know,
one of the things that is happening nowadays is in
order to you know, Okay, I'm having bipolar issues, I'm
having manic depression, I'm having all these different things. Oh
my gosh, what's the first thing they do. It's not
like they sit you down anymore. Because I've been I've
been through this process with my children and I've even

(01:26:03):
been myself. At some point, they no longer want to
sit you down and actually talk to you. The first
thing they do is they prescribe you medication, and the
very medication that they give you only enhances and attacks
your mind.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Yes, because it will affect your serotonin and that's the
same thing that your pinion glands to it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
So yes, the dopamine. It's all connection. That's why I
always tell people. And you've got to know the beginnings
to see how it's moved through history, to see it
how it's just grabbed us. You know, the genetically modified foods.
All these things that have happened over the course of

(01:26:47):
time have not been little bits and pieces out here
like doing whatever. It's all been a plan to do
all these things and then slowly take mankind and do this.
Corral them in, Corral them in, because they're going out
here and they're doing this, and they're buying that this
this work. Five G and I can run my refrigerator
at a distance and whatever. And then when six G

(01:27:09):
comes over, then it's major a I. And guess what
happens to humanity? Gotcha?

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Yeah, at the end of the day, you know we're
gonna you know, we've got a few more things if
you've got time, But you know, just to seal yourself
and with a protecting with Christ, you know, and to
seal yourself off. But you have to maintain that seal.
But a few things that I just want to say,
as you were talking there, I want to point out

(01:27:38):
and and go look us up again. Don't take our
word for it, you know, I encourage you to go
look it up for yourself. But if you go look
it up right now, Microsoft currently has a patent okay,
they have a patent that is out there for tracking
your brain activity okay, to literally mind cryptocurrency for you.
And what they're gonna do is they're gonna they're gonna

(01:27:59):
track your body heat, your fluid levels, and your brain
waves and to help validate blockchain transactions and award cryptocurrency
if you behave in a way. You know, of course,
this is all under the guise of health that if
you do healthy things, they're going to reward you and
send money directly to your bank account, like we talked

(01:28:20):
about in the term in the form of cryptocurrency and
pay you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
That is in the works' that is exactly true. You
think about right now, all these little things that you
can wear on you rings and whatever. They can follow
you your biological processes and keep up with it, and
you can know your heart rate and you can do
all these kind of things your sugar, it's just stuck
on your skin. Every bit of this is it's just

(01:28:44):
that it seems wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Yeah, the guys of health.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Yes. And when you can see it just being brought
so together, it's going to just when it happens, it
will happen so fast that if you have not been
talking to your family and your loved ones about this.
Because when we stand we stand before God. I can't
go before God when he calls me up there to
stand before him, He's going to be looking just at me.

(01:29:10):
And if he says, Joy, why did you do so
and so that day on this whatever, because he can
call up anything. I mean, our brains have the capability.
There are people who can remember everything, every second of
everything they've ever done in their lifetime. And I can
clearly tell you from hypnosis it's all there because I
saw that girl do what she did? How does she
remember that? On such as to date, this kid had

(01:29:30):
a pink dress on and blue shoes literally literally and
was looking at you. Yeah, it was it was wild.
So when I stand before God and he's going to
ask me something, I can't go well, Kyle made me
do that, or Kyle made me say that excuse me,
He will say, did I not give you a brain?

(01:29:54):
It was your choice, free will. You had the chance
to choose to do that evil, that sin, that lust, whatever.
If you never got that rectified with him, then it
is still on you. And if you don't have Jesus
Christ as your lord and savior and his blood washing

(01:30:14):
all that away, you are gonna stand before him and
he's not gonna want to hear where everybody else was
doing it or I just really know if it was
a problem. You know those kinds of excuses. You will
be standing naked before your creator with nothing to support
why you did what you did? Nothing? And we all

(01:30:38):
we're human and we're gonna make mistakes. You know, I
make mistakes every day and I go, why why did
I even let myself go there or think of that?
Or why did I even participate in something that I know?
If I overeat, I'm going to be sick. Okay, we
make choices every day that we could be better at.
You can always be better every day, and lines we

(01:31:00):
can't be let's say perfect perfect, but it tells us
to walk and follow Jesus Christ and he was perfect.
So he's wanting you to get past this stuff. If
you don't put your mind to that, there's always them
two little people, Jesus and Satan. It's like my mother

(01:31:20):
used to say, and if I was not acting right,
she would say, Joey, which sight of your shoulder you
listening to? Today? You know who are you really listening to?
Even if you get down and out about something, and
it's easy to blame other people for things, it's easy
to say, well, it's their fault they did this, or

(01:31:42):
they hurt me or whatever. What we don't stop and
really realize is that we are not fighting flesh and blood.
We are fighting principalities and powers in high places. So
you never know what somebody's going through. You never you
can never step in, can never know your mind, You
can never know my mind. We can both sit in

(01:32:04):
church all day long, we can both look like we're
perfectly at peace, and your mind may be racing about
something terrible that's happened. Somebody may have hurt you. You
may be feeling like, Lord, I just feel like giving up.
There's different things that we all go through. We're all
fighting a battle against Satan, and it's so much interesting

(01:32:25):
to me that he knows your specific Achilles Hill. He
might hit you with you know, I don't you want
to watch TV every Friday night and your cable goes out? Okay,
I don't ever watch TV. I'm probably a TV watcher,
so if my cable out, I wouldn't even know it. Okay,
it wouldn't be it would be upsetting me at all.

(01:32:47):
But I'm a kind of person who likes to do
like research on the computer or outside let's say, doing
something exercise or whatever, and something tears up, and then
I've got to fix it. And every time I go
out there, I've got to fix it, and I can't
get to what I like to do. So he knows
the things that aggravate us. And if you ever notice,

(01:33:09):
he'll do it in threes. He'll start out and you
stump your tone and you're like oh. And then the
next thing, you close your finger on the door and
you're like oh, you know. And it just keeps on
little things until another little thing just sends you over
the top. And if you don't have Christ in your heart,
most times people will curse, and most times they will

(01:33:32):
curse God. Why'd you like that happen? And it wasn't
God at all?

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
That's the thing about free will you know. Like, we
had a good conversation the other day with one of
our friends at church that her sister walked away from
the faith because she prayed and prayed and prayed and
prayed for her husband to you know, find God, and
she just felt like God never answered the prayer. And
that's because you're basically asking God to violate the very
thing that he gives us, which is free will, you know.

(01:34:02):
And and it's really hard to wrap our heads around that.
But you know, going back to the medical thing, I
have a good friend that considers our modern medical system.
He calls it Western Babylon.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Well, it's called sorcery, you know, the worst sorcer Pharmakia.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Man, you nailed it. Yeah, And we are, we are
engaging in every every day man. It's it's so insane too. Joy.
We were watching we've been doing a house of David's
study at the church on Thursdays, the show right, which
is awesome because you can get into the history of
the Old Testament because there's a lot of lineage going on,
and if you do it properly, it'll actually help you

(01:34:37):
understand the Old Testament because you need to understand geography,
you need to understand history, you need to understand and
you can really do a lot with that. But here
we're watching on Amazon and even now when you have
their Prime service, the ads come on and the ads
are coming on for these pharmacies, these drugs, right, and
the side effects are worse than the drug it's trying

(01:34:58):
to treat. And so some of the side effects or
even death Man, and it's like, how are you guys
still taking this crap?

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Like if I was depressed and then I had all
that other I really would be depressed.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
I mean grief. It's like, you know, you take these
depression drugs and it says may increase thoughts of suicide,
and I'm like, the whole point is to not feel that.
So it's just it's just incredible and people are lining up.
But the whole system, because it's an evil system. Everything
that we see in this world that plays out in
the physical world, in the physical realm, ultimately is just

(01:35:30):
a pawn and a in game play for the spiritual
warfare that rides underneath all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
That's it, and you nail that when we first started
on the show. It's all about it's all about your soul.
It's all about taking your soul, taking taking God's children
into Hell. It's all about Satan taking us there if
he can, just with whatever. And you've got to stop

(01:35:59):
and think, you know what, do you give up your
inheritance far every day and we're all, we're all, we're
all hit with that. You know. Is it to take
that pen to get that extra dollar, you know, to
have a sexual relationship. That's not right. I mean every
day whatever you're taking that you know's wrong. You're giving

(01:36:21):
up your inheritance. And some people who think once saved
all the way saved, you better be staying with your
lamp full. Because in that parable there were ten virgins,
meaning ten of them were good people, they were all virgins,
but only five of them had their oil in their
lamps waiting for the bridegroom, and only those five went.

(01:36:45):
So I'm like, when people think that they can just
keep doing wrong and I'm sorry, God, I'm sorry, God,
I'm sorry. There just comes a time that you're not
fooling God. In fact, the first time you ever tell
him inappropriately, sorry guard, but you really didn't mean it,
because you went out and did it again and it
did and again, he knows your heart, he knows your mind.

(01:37:07):
I'm telling you that penial gland is given information. It's
kind of like a lot of techtor tests. You know,
you connect up and you're electromatic, electromagnetic. You is how
that little thing reads whether you're telling the truth or
a lie, or you're electromagnetic, you're connected to God. He
knows where you're fine to him or not.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Yep, that's right, it's amazing, it's it's it's it's so
very true. And you know, at the end of the day,
all every single one of us, when we stand before
our creator, no matter who you are, you're going to
and you can either hear depart from me for I
never knew you, or you can hear well done, good
and faithful servant. And I got to tell you, I'm
playing a long game. I want to hear well done,
good and faithful servant. And you know, we've had a

(01:37:48):
lot of technological challenges. I felt so bad because the
first few minutes of the show, I'm just trying to
figure out technological challenges and there's a voice, echoes and
all this different stuff that's going on, and eventually you
just get it the best you can and you let
it go. But it is amazing because we started the
show off talking about how you know, if you're not
under attack, maybe you need to up your game. And yeah,
it's very much the truth. But yeah, the show, the show,

(01:38:10):
I kind of alluded to this in the beginning, but
I'll share with you because I've already kind of announced
it on our Facebook page. But the show's name is
actually going to be changing to the word at war. Yeah,
because it's not only speaking about Christ, but it's also
the fact that the entire scripture is literally outlining from
the very get go, the spiritual war that was initiated

(01:38:31):
in the Garden of Eden. The war is going to
continue on until Christ comes back and claims us. So
the word of war, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
And what people don't understand is when Cain killed Abel
and God came to him, he said, you're your brother's blood.
Christ to me from the ground, meaning it had a
vibratory response. It was alive.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
I had that written down too. There is a lot
that would be paid one joy it is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
It's very true.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
It's true though.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
But yeah, from the Garden of Eat, from the Garden
of Eating to the end of days. This is all
through scripture, and that's why it's important to understand what
happened and why we are here where we're at, and
how crucial it is not to give in to evil.
There is no money, there's no sex, there's no whatever

(01:39:29):
worth your soul. There's just not. It's just not.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
It's kind of amazing too, one of the things you
just said. And then just this is a fun side note.
We'll close with this just because it's a fun side question.
The more I research, and the more that I study,
the more conversations I have, and the more I grow,
the more the Bible is more literal in a lot
of places than we ever imagine. Yes, you know, like
that was a perfect example of that. Like we read

(01:39:55):
that and we think it's just kind of poetic speak
from God. I like the blood cries out to me
from the ground, but it ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
Really doing it now scientific It was scientifically, And and
the thing about it is, let's just think Eve was
made from Adam's rib. Well, guess what science prays now,
the best DNA in a person is in their rib,
the most purest DNA. What's the odds that he would
have put Adam as sleep and it got that rib

(01:40:25):
for Eve because he wanted it pure. And we can
prove that things like that now you know. And and
just like I was talking about the sperm and the
egg coming together and that big explason that happens that
we can get you know, on camera and we can
see that happen. Literally we're seeing energy being made. Oh
my gosh, it's just like hool you know, God is

(01:40:47):
amazing and another thing you can do, you can you know,
this is really cool to me. Because they talk about sound.
You can take the Hebrews letters and and like vibrate
them their sound. And if you've got sand, do you
know that Sam will move and form that letter? Yes,
sh or like I've talked I think I talked to
you before on the show that if you if you

(01:41:09):
talk good into good gets you two glasses of water.
You speak good to this one and you speak really
bad to this one, and you freeze them. And when
you pull them out and look at the crystals, the
crystals into good water are all perfectly shaped, and the
crystals and the bad water all jagged. Say, what's the
odds of that?

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
It's it's uh, it's incredible. Because again, the more conversations
that I have with people. It's been so fascinating because
I sit at this. I keep saying this, but it's
the truth. I sit at this insection like or this, uh,
this intersection right where everybody is coming from different angles,
like you're going to do research on the on the
pineal gland, and then uh, Randy Goodwin is going to

(01:41:48):
deal with SRA victims, and and when you start putting
everybody's pieces together, it's just amazing how much it fits.
Because Randy said, what they will do in these Satanic
rituals to children that it's the lineage right of the
Satanic worship. A lot of times in these families is
they will take a child when it's very young, right,

(01:42:10):
I can't really even understand, and they will speak horrendously
awful things to it, right. And what that's doing is now,
in talking to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
You, it's changing the vibration.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
Yeah, it's basically changing that vibration, right, just like with
the water, and it's basically cracking open their pineal gland
and preparing it for infiltration. They'll even speak things and
do ritualistic stuff while while she's pregnant to prepare the

(01:42:43):
fetus for attack. Even in the womb.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
Well, you know, it's interesting that they do that. But
did you know that if you take classical music, if
you're pregnant and you play classical music, just let the
you know, music be with you if you're pregnant, that
your child that there is absolutely case studies that it
makes your child's smarter, more intelligent. And it's the vibrational

(01:43:06):
music classical music. I mean, that's what I was telling about.
That you put a plant in classical music and you
put another one in wrap. The plant in classical music
it just thrives. The one in rap music it kills it.
And our bodies are water and we're vibratory. So do
you just imagine what is being bombarded at us all

(01:43:27):
the time that is literally literally destroying us.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
Yep, exactly completely. Well, we got to about five things
that I wanted to talk about today.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
Well, I want to come back. It's like you were
talking about. My work encompasses all the discipline disciplines out there, because,
like you said, they're all pieces to the puzzle come together.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Guys, I can't recommend it enough. Definitely go pick up
Joy's book. I just threw the QR code on the
screen for you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Joy can't see that. You guys all can, so definitely
scan that QR code on there. Head over to our
website at the TFHC dot com Forward Slash Guests. Joy
has her own tab over there with all of her
books on there, not just this book, but all of
her books, and if you actually buy them and click
on that through there, it will either take you to Amazon.
I think most of yours actually do go to Amazon.
There might be a few that actually go to Sacred Word.

(01:44:20):
But either way, you're going to help out Joy. You're
going to help out the show, and it's really appreciative.
We very much appreciate that. So whenever you buy something
through Amazon through those affiliate links, just so you know
how it works, Joy gets her normal cut. Nothing doesn't
affect her in any way, but a small portion of
Amazon side actually comes back to the show. So I'm
sure that Amazon will be okay, but it does help

(01:44:41):
us out. So please do take advantage of that offer.
That would be fantastic if you guys would do that. Joy,
it's so good to talk to you. I always enjoy
having you on talking to you. It's so great to
see you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
My friend. I enjoyed as well, and I want to
combat because there's a whole lot more we can talk about.
Oh yes, I've got we lead people with. You have
a choice choose wisely. Choose wisely because you do not
want to end up on the non winning team, and

(01:45:10):
it's your choice. Jesus Christ is the only way, and
it means walk in the path and fall on him
for a little bit of time here on this earth,
to spend all eternity with him, your inheritance. There's nothing
on this planet worth your inheritance.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Nothing, Amen. I had a page in here that I
was going to read on that very front, but I
think you summarized it even better right there. So you know, well, yeah,
shield yourself and cover yourself in the blood, because that
blood also covers your mind and all of the sacred
parts inside of you. Because the enemy literally is seeking
to destroy us, and he is doing it on more
levels than we could ever even begin to imagine. So

(01:45:50):
stay pure. If you think you were once saved, always saved, yeah,
you're really playing a dangerous game, because you know, I've
used to think that as well. But I got to
tell you, I had never left the back of my
mind thinking that I might have been in trouble. But
now that I'm doing what God's will actually is and
stepping any of the giftings that he gave me and
using it for him, there is not a doubt in

(01:46:12):
my mind that I am going to hear good and
well done, good and faithful servant, no matter what it
cost me here on earth thoughts. But I want to
hear when I pass away. So oh yeah, absolutely so joy.
I'll shut us down on the on the feed, but
if you want to hang tight real quick, I'll pray
with you before you go. All right, Well, everybody, thanks
so much, bid you do until next time on before
take care
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