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November 3, 2025 40 mins
Partial SNAP payments will be made but we don't know when.  Elections in VA, NJ, NYC, CA and Seattle tomorrow.  Will democrats go for the far left or go more moderate?  Good luck if you are flying.  Lots of delays.  Do you want to get involved in a Nigeria war with terrorist?

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, here we are. How are you welcome to the
Monday edition. Yes, it's Monday. Today is the third day
of November, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. My
name is Tom Sullivan. It is election eve in some
parts of the country. Not a lot. We'll get into

(00:45):
all of that. We've got questions about nuke testing. President
Wadon on that Nigeria. The airports are a mess. I
mean it's a mess, but it's yeah. I mean if
you have a better chance than not of your flight
leaving on time. But there's a lot of them that

(01:08):
are not. Let me start with the ruling that came
out on Friday. There were two of them late Friday afternoon,
two judges, one in Boston, one in Rhode Island that
said that the government must continue the SNAP benefits. They
didn't say how, they just said you have to continue

(01:28):
to keep paying for it. But there are legalities around
the money that you direct to any program defense SNAP,
whatever it might be. And so the administration said, okay, yes,
we will abide by your direction. However, could you give

(01:52):
us some guidance on exactly so that we don't get
in trouble legally? Could you give us some guidance on
how we're supposed to do this, so they said, yeah,
we'll go ahead with it. And there's different numbers floating around.
One report I have from the Associated Press says it
costs more than eight billion dollars per month, eight billion

(02:16):
per month, and they say their emergency fund has four
point six billion dollars in it, so it's enough to
cover a smidge more than about half. So they said
that's what we're going to do. And we don't. I mean,
for those of you that are on Snap don't I
can't give you a definitive answer. I'm sure you're in

(02:38):
antsy waiting to find out how or what. I don't
know how they do this because the states all have
programs where they load the cards or SNAP recipients in
your particular state. Brooke Robins, who is the Agriculture's Secretary,

(02:58):
she was asked about the earlier Today.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Day Day one of USDA February thirteenth, is we sent
letters to every governor in America being very clear that
no illegal aliens can use SNAP zero zero. We asked
every state for the first time in history, and this
was in February, to send us their data and let
us with Doge and a war room actually start going

(03:22):
through this data to better understand how this explosion of
SNAP benefits happened under Joe Biden. We increased almost forty
percent on this program in just a couple of years
under the Biden administration. Of course we know they were
trying to buy the election, but that's a conversation for
another time. And since we have asked for that data,
twenty nine states have complied. Complied, of course almost all

(03:44):
the Red states, couple of the you know, the couple
of blue states too. But in that data, and I
haven't talked about this yet publicly, in that data, we
have found We studied about one hundred billion dollars in spend.
We have found thousands and thousands of of illegal use
of the EBT card. We have been moving people off

(04:05):
of SNAP. We've got almost seven hundred thousand people I
think we've moved off just since the President took office.
We've arrested about one hundred and eighteen people. So this
has been ongoing. But well to your point, what this
conversation has allowed is a national spotlight on a broken
and corrupt program. We found one guy in six different

(04:25):
states getting a benefit we found about five thousand people
that are dead who are still getting benefits, Like it
is time to drastically reform this program so that we
can make sure that those who are truly needy, truly vulnerable,
are getting what they need and the rest of the
corruption goes away and we can serve the American taxpayer.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Now so true with so many government programs the people
that it's designed for, with good intentions to help people
who need help, but a bunch of fraudsters get involved
and they start taking advantage of the system. I mean
sometimes to huge numbers. Here are some TikTokers talking about that.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
This program is keeping a lot of people, unmarried, uneducated,
don't want to, you know, do anything that will hinder
the opportunity there what that chance to lose their benefits.
Only in America do we have people that have twelve
hundred dollars iPhones checking to see if there's not benefits hit.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Anyone who's on welfare, not for disability, but because they
can't provide for themselves should not have peobility to vote
in our society.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I don't have kids, but.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
There's no way that I have kids, and I'm waiting
on somebody else to feel.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, those guys were on TikTok and they were basically, yeah,
you hear what they had to say. It's sad. Jonathan Turley,
the constitutional law professor at Georgetown, was asked about can
you just move money around or is there a legal
impediment to what the judges want them to do is
go find some money to give to people so they
can buy their food.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
I think that the Trump administration is said all along
that they were willing to extend SNAP, but they wanted
to take the simplest approach, which is just to vote
on a clean cr and open the government again. But
without that, they would have to rely on emergency funds
that are dedicated for other purposes, and their concern was

(06:24):
that that could itself be challenged. In fact, when these
two judges ruled this way, the administration said, basically, give
us what's usually considered an advisory opinion, that is to
just say, tell us where you think the legal funds
can come from, and will use those funds.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
They said they.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Weren't even going to appeal one of those judgments. So
I think that SNAP is going to be funded, but
only partially the question is whether we can get this
government open again because you don't want to drain those funds,
which are therefore real emergencies that could pop up with
little notice. Well, yeah, that's the problem is you can't

(07:04):
keep playing this hand. You're going to tap out those
funds eventually, but then you're also going to leave the
cupboard bear if you need to go there with a
hurricane or a relief effort or some other emergency. One
of these judges is sort of fast on the trigger.
She was stopped previously by the Corp of Appeals because

(07:24):
she ordered the funding of Planned parenthood under a previous case.
So there could be some tensions down the road as
the administration begins to look at limitations even on using
these emergency funds. The hope is that after tomorrow's election,
there's going to be less political advantage to keeping the
government shut down, and we might see it open up

(07:47):
again this week. And if that's the case, then hopefully
we can keep most of those emergency funds untapped and
ready to be used as we go into hurricane season.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, I would be to pat myself on the back,
but I told you a week or two ago about
the fact that right after election Day, all the political
games that they're playing will be past them, and so
I would be I would not be surprised if Wednesday
or Thursday, maybe Friday of this week, all of a
sudden there's an agreement and the government is put back

(08:21):
to open for business again. We'll see speaking of open
for business. So yeah, the elections are tomorrow in Virginia,
North I'm sorry, New Jersey, New York City, California, and
one that's not getting any attention but I'm aware of

(08:42):
it is in Seattle. There's a mayor's race in Seattle.
Everybody's talking about the mayor's race in New York City
with Mom Donnie being the socialist. Well there's another socialist
and she's very much along those same lines that the
woman that's running against the current mayor of the city
of Seattle. He is a black male Democrat, but he's

(09:08):
not far enough left for a lot of people that are.
Apparently in Seattle. She won the primary over him by
quite a margin. So we'll see if the socialist mayor
of Seattle wins or not tomorrow. But it's a democrat
versus a socialist in Seattle, the same as in New

(09:31):
York City. So yeah, Virginia. You've got the governor's race.
You got a bunch of them there. But you've also
got the guy that was the hot button guy that
was running for attorney general, who was talking about putting
bullets into the head of his opponents. All that came
up New York City. You're familiar with with, Ma'm donnie.
That's getting a lot of publicity in California. Prop fifty

(09:54):
is what it's called, and they're going to vote on
whether or not to hand over to take it away
from the independent committee that's supposed to draw congressional districts
and give it back to the politicians, which the people
voted to take it away from the politicians not that
many years ago. I think it was fifteen years ago.

(10:15):
So anyway, they're being talked into giving it back to
the politicians so that they can basically try and get
five more Democrats out of the congressional seats in California.
The thing about it is you're not going to know
any of the characters. But this is a real test
for Gavin Newsom. This is his baby to fight back

(10:36):
against Donald Trump and Republicans, and if this loses, I
think it really damages his dream of wanting to run
for president. If it passes, which it's expected to pass
in the polling, we'll see that that will help him,

(11:00):
you know, wave his flag that he's the Democrat that
is the best at fighting Donald Trump and Republicans. So
we've got that. Let's Larry Zabudo runs Election Center at
the University of Virginia has for years. See what Larry
is thinking.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Oh, Democrats are going to do well. They could have
a sweep at least of the top positions. That's very important.
But the midterm elections are a year away, and in
the Trump era, you know, hundreds of things will happen
in the next year that could affect how people evaluate
him and how people evaluate the candidates running. But on

(11:39):
the whole, Democrats desperately need this boost of enthusiasm and success.
Nothing succeeds like success in politics and business. They have
to start winning and then people will feel better about them.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, the Democrats are wandering, looking for a message, a leader.
They're looking for anything they can grasp onto. So if
they win some of these and they expect they're ahead
in the polls on some of these state races, then
the question will be what about Republicans. What are their
opportunities tomorrow?

Speaker 6 (12:14):
The best case would be pulling off an upset in
New Jersey and winning that governorship with a New Jersey,
while still Democratic, has been moving more in the Republican direction.
Maybe also picking off the attorney general's post in Virginia.
The attorney general candidate for the Democrats that's been involved
in scandal and so that is hurting him and he

(12:36):
will do worse than the other candidates on the statewide ballot,
But we don't know whether it's bad enough to lose.
And Proposition fifty in California, that's important because it sends
a signal about the voter's due of redistricting, and if
it's a big vote. Some polls have had Proposition fifty,
which the Democrats favor, going over sixty percent. If that

(12:58):
actually happens, I think I can also encouraged Democrats for.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
The coming year.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Well, my rule, and I'm okate, is it should tell
you a lot until the Sunday shows, the next Sunday shows.
You should have a great prediction gambit, everybody participating with
very very fixed suggestions about the future, and then you'll
let it go. As of Sunday and then real events

(13:25):
in the current day takeover.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
So yeah, the Democrats are looking pretty good for tomorrow,
but it's not a guaranteed thing. In fact, Harry Enton
has a couple of different views to share with you today.
One of them is just how unpopular Democrats have become.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
Democrats at this point are historically divided. It is a
complete and utter mess. It is messier than a hoarder's basement.
What are we talking about here? The national early poll
leader twenty five percent plus. Normally that's where Democrats are.
Biden was twenty five percent plus and twenty twenty. Hillary
Clinton wasn't O eight and six. Gore was in to
O four. At this particular point, there is no one,

(14:04):
no one in the Democratic race for president who's polling
at twenty five percent plus.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
The water is quite warm.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
If you're a Democrat potentially thinking about running in twenty
twenty eight, jump right in because at this point there
is no front runner. Think that that is in large
part of what's going on is one of the reasons
why there is no front runner. Nobody wants to put
anybody up at the top of their balletless is because
at this particular point, the Democratic brand is in the basement.

(14:31):
It is total and complete garbage in the mind of
the American public. The Democratic Party's net fabr rating record
lows in all three Wall Street Journal thirty points underwater,
CNN twenty six points underwater, Gallup twenty six points underwater.
And that is being driven in large pump by discontent
within the Democratic base. The Democratic base wants something different,
will ultimately end up seeing who they choose. It will

(14:53):
be quite the thing who ultimately gets the rose. So
Harry said, the Democrats are looking for somebody different. I
had to play this for you because Chris van Holland
is a senator Democrat senator from Maryland, and he was
asked this morning about, you know, how are the Democrats

(15:15):
going to win back races and listen to what he
had to say makes it made me laugh.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
Twenty nine percent favorable for Democrats, fifty five percent unfavorable.
Why don't people like you, Senator, Well, John, it's good
to be with you this morning. The short answer is,
at least for some time, Democrats did not see the
party in Washington fighting back more strongly against Donald Trump

(15:42):
and his attacks on our democracy, on his failure to
bring down prices, but also Democrats do need to provide
a better alternative to Donald Trump. It cannot only be
about going after Donald Trump. It needs to be about
presenting alternatives, in fact, working on some proposals right now

(16:02):
on the tax front to increase taxes on the wealthiest
and make sure that middle class families, working class families
get relief. So I think we need to do more
than just talk about these issues. We need to put
forward clear plans that tell people where we are.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
So what made me laugh was John Berman oversea and
ed basically insulted Chris van Holland by saying, nobody liked you.
Why is that? And he does the well, it's certainly
good to be with you this morning. He had no answer,
and instead it's all about well, Trump is that Trump guy,
and Trump's bad and bad of Orange is bad and

(16:41):
oh well, but we need to do more than that.
What we need to do is raise taxes on the
wealthy so that the middle class will benefit. Now, let
me ask you something, for those of us in the
middle class, do you really believe that taxing the wealthy
is going to some how benefit you? Has it ever

(17:03):
benefited you? And they're not know that the wealthy have
high priced CPAs to get around all the taxes anyway,
But it just that was the He said, yeah, we
need something new, and then he proposed what has been
the standard argument for Democrats for as long as I
can remember. Just tax the rich, that's the answer. But

(17:25):
they also have the throw in the orange man as bad.
I laughed when he said that with a straight face.
But I will throw this in. Donald Trump. His popularity
is down, a way down. It's down to the thirties,
in the thirties somewhere support, which is essentially his magabase.

(17:47):
It's always been there. Listen to what We'll go back
to Harry Enton and he has the numbers on Trump's unpopularity.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
I mean, the common denominator here is Donald Trump and
Democrats are on. I'm the precipice of delivering a huge
blow to Donald Trump in his second term. What are
we talking about here? Well, why don't we just look?
Democrats lead all the key races. You go to New
Jersey governor, that's really the only close one. Mikey Cheryl
the Democrat up by six points. Abigail Spamberger in Virginia
up by talent z Aram Mandani up by sixteen points

(18:18):
in New York City. The bottom line is this, Yes,
there are ideological differences between the Democrats, but the key
common component is they are all going after Donald Trump.
And all the Democrats lead from New Jersey to Virginia
to New York City, they all lead the Republican and
independent opponent. I mean, look, Donald Trump is a huge,
huge dragon all of these races. Look at his net

(18:41):
popularity rings. In New Jersey, he's eleven points underwater, Virginia
fourteen points underwater, not much of a big surprise. In
New York he's thirty five points underwater. And I will
note nationally and my aggregate of Polsy's about thirteen points underwater.
In our cnmpul he's way below that, which looks a
lot like New Jersey, a lot like Virginia. So these races,
my minds, could be huge. Bellweather's going in a next

(19:03):
year to understanding how Donald Trump is impacting these races.
He is a huge, huge drag and across the board
New Jersey, Virginia, and New York City.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
So there's no real surprise there. I mean, Virginia has
been purple, more blue than red. New Jersey also more
blue than red and New York City. I mean, he's
done much better in New York City than any Republican
in a long, long time. But he's still underwater in

(19:32):
New York City. There's no surprise to any of that,
and that's why they haven't asked him to come out
on the campaign trail and campaign for them. No real
surprise on that at all. But if Ma'm Donnie does
get elected. Donald Trump was asked about that when he
sat down with Nora O'Donnell for a sixty minutes interview.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
What if Monday becomes mayor, It's going to be hard
for me as the president to give a lot of
money to New York because if you have a communist
running New York, all you're doing is wasting the money
you're sending there.

Speaker 10 (20:06):
So I don't know therese one. And I'm not a
fan of Cuomo one way or the other. But if
it's going to be between a bad Democrat and a communist,
I'm going to pick that bad Democrat all the time.
To be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, I get it he doesn't want a Democrat, but
you really have a bad Democrat than a communist. I
saw an article Realtor Dot com. They have an article
out today Wealthy New Yorkers are preparing for a mayoral
election exodus sparking luxury bidding wars in affluent suburbs. So

(20:41):
a lot of suburbs around New York City. Why not
you can still work in New York City but live
just outside the city limits, and there's some beautiful neighborhoods.
I would imagine there's going to be a lot of
upper income people that are going to be hitting the
bone for following their favorite realtorm Rob Emmanuel. He yeah,

(21:05):
Rob talks about how Obama is out on the campaign
trail for these Democrats.

Speaker 11 (21:10):
It's important.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
I mean, obviously you're down to the final forty eight hours.
Energizing people to turn out in a off year election
is always important, and I think that's going to be
a measure that's going to be important to how you
interpret what's going to happen in twenty twenty six. Well,
you know, having met with MANDONI myself, there's an important election.
I think what's interesting when you look at both New

(21:32):
Jersey message, Virginia message, and Mandannie's message in the New
York City mayor all race, all three of them are
talking about affordability. All three of them are talking about
the cost of living because people are stressed out, and
I think it's important to note that now all three
have a different way of addressing it, but the core
issue is the fact that people and families across New Jersey,

(21:53):
Virginia and New York City have their backs against the wall.
And I think the President reached out obviously to say,
look as you go and make this decision. This is
a big leap from state senator. I'm here if you
want to talk. I think that's a very helpful thing,
the same thing I said to him when we met
for about an hour and a half about a.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Couple months ago.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
I think the campaigns made a decision if they look
and listen to voters, both in polling, focus groups, etc. Basically,
Democrats want to put a box and tie it, put
everything that happened in twenty twenty four behind them. They're
looking forward and these elections are about what's going forward
and what it's going to take to win, not only here.
And I think when you win, winning begets winning. That's

(22:34):
going to be the message. And I think that if
you look at not having either former President Biden or
the Vice President Kamala Harrison nominee. It's more of a
reflection of what the voters are saying, which is look forward,
not backwards.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
He's trying to make excuses for his old boss about
the why but Obama does have Obama does It didn't
show up for Joe Biden until the very last second,
and he's doing that on this. He hasn't been on
the campaign trail, and so Rom's making the excuse people
don't want to look backward. Well, it's been over ten
years since Obama was president, so it is reaching back

(23:07):
quite ways. But yes, there's a lot of young people
that are for mam Donni, for example, and they probably
barely know who Obama is. Seriously, I kind of wonder
a good old John Fetterman, Democrat from Pennsylvania. He's just
a straight shooting guy. A lot of what they're talking

(23:29):
about always in campaigns is authenticity, but more so lately.
I mean the Chris van Holland clip that I played
about just yes, well Trump's bad and we'll raise taxes
on the rich, and that is so not true. It
never has made a difference for the middle class ever.
But John Fetterman, I think he truly is authentic when

(23:51):
it comes to speaking two and four the middle class.

Speaker 12 (23:55):
I feel like the Democrats really need to own the shutdown.
I mean, we're shutting it down and now people now
can't count on their snap benefits and also wick and
head start. These are the kinds of people why I'm
a Democrat fighting for people that just like that. Now
seems like we're moving against our core values to keep
our government shut down at this point.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, so authenticity critical. The fact that cost prices of
things have gone up, Inflation has been creeping higher. Costs,
our prices are overall are are going higher. They're not
going You'll find some things that are going lower, but
most things are going higher. I notice it. I see
prices and I kind of gasp sometimes about how food

(24:40):
prices and other things are going up. Mike Lawler is
a Republican from the suburbs of New York City. That's
what he adds.

Speaker 13 (24:50):
I know, look, there's lots of polls that come out,
and pulls are a snapshot of a given time. I
think right now the focus obviously, as I'm getting the
government back up and running. When you look at this situation,
House Republicans passed a clean CR well over a month
ago to fully fund our military, our border patrol, our

(25:13):
air traffic controllers, and critical programs like SNAP and WICK.
Chuck Schumer and Senate Democrats have shut the government down
and have been playing politics for over a month now,
and it seems, according to some reporting that post election
Day Wednesday or Thursday, they're finally going to acquiesce. Hopefully

(25:33):
they do, because this is absolutely shameful that they have
used the American people as hostage in this high stakes
game that they have played. It was unnecessary. Chuck Schumer
should have been consistent with what he has done every
time during his forty four years in Washington, which is

(25:54):
to vote yes on a clean CR. Instead, he chose
to play politics. So I'd like to see this come
to an end. We want to make sure that the
funds are there for all of these critical programs, including
SNAP and WICK, and make sure that the American people
get the services and benefits that they rely on.

Speaker 14 (26:11):
Well.

Speaker 13 (26:11):
Look, I've been a co lead on legislation to extend
the ACA subsidies for the last two months. I went
down to Washington asked Leader Jeffries to support that legislation.
He chose not to. He outright refused when I asked
him multiple times to sign on to the bill. The
fact is this was a crisis of the Democrats' own making.

(26:33):
Obamacare has not worked the way that they said it would.
Healthcare premiums have skyrocketed sixty percent since twenty ten, and
obviously this ACA subsidy that was put in place during
COVID that the Democrats slated to expire at the end
of this year is having an impact on premium So

(26:53):
I want to see us address that in the short
term by passing an extension for a year, but also
longer term, we need to actually address the fact that
Obamacare has not reduced the cost of healthcare. It has
not increased access. It takes people months to get a
doctor's appointment. There's a lot of challenges with healthcare that
we have to work in a bipartisan way to address.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
So what about travel? Now you doing on the travel?
Are you taking a flight anywhere? Do you have a
business meeting, you have a plan to cruise or a
vacation or something, Because a lot there are most planes
are going on time. But Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary,
he's got his hands full.

Speaker 15 (27:35):
Well, does it become a flight emergency of safety issue. No,
we will stop traffic, so we're not going to let
that happen. I think the real consequence is what kind
of rolling delays do you have throughout the system? Right
We've seen problems at LA in Dallas, in DC, Boston, Atlanta,
and so I think it's only going to get worse.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
So my prediction about the fact that the government will
magically find a way to reopen again after election day tomorrow,
give it a couple of days, and if it does
get worse, it's going to get a lot worse. Today
wasn't all that bad. I'm looking at flight Awares cancelation page.
Total cancelations today in the US seventy it's a lot

(28:19):
of people, though seventy times what one hundred and fifty
people on a plane, it's a lot of people. That's cancelations.
As far as delays, two eight hundred eighty six, there's
nothing that makes travel more miserable. Then I'm sorry. We
are delayed. We won't be getting leaving when we're supposed to,

(28:42):
we won't be getting where we're supposed to. And if
you have connecting flights, good luck with that. Nick Daniels
is the head of the Air Traffic Control Union, and
listen to what he says it. He does obviously keep
the message that no, these people are professionals, and even
the other short staff, they're not going to take any

(29:04):
shortcuts that violate safety. But then it turns around and
says the more stress there is, it will affect safety.
Listen to Nick Daniels.

Speaker 16 (29:12):
The amount of stress, the fatigue, the frustration is growing
every day air traffic controllers are waking up to a
headline it says there's no end insight, and that leads
to a level of hopelessness as well. And you know,
there's not even as many air traffic controllers that are
working today as there was in the twenty nineteen shut down,
where air traffic controllers are working six days a week,
ten hours a day, and that is that was already

(29:34):
an issue that we were working on, and now every
day that it continues, it continues to build, and it
continues to put them in a place that is completely unacceptable.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
You start having one person take.

Speaker 16 (29:44):
On multiple tasks where you would normally have that workload
divided between controllers.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
They're going to go to work, they're going to do
their job.

Speaker 16 (29:50):
They're going to keep everyone safe, but you have to
start slowing down the number of aircraft that can go
through it so one person can handle this level of complexity.
This is the most high consequence job in the entire world.
You're making a thousand decisions in just one rotation to
ensure that aircraft moves safely in and around the airport

(30:11):
or in the sky, and every single time that they
have to take on an additional level of responsibility amidst
all these other issues is something we have to be
concerned about and something we have to manage. We're not
only seeing air traffic controllers already reporting like I have
no money for gas and to be able to get
to work. They're over one month at this point without
a level of compensation for the amazing work that these

(30:32):
patriots do day in and day out, but also on
top of that not having childcare. We're seeing air traffic
controllers for their first time starting to resign. We have
trainees that are resigning, and we have certified controllers, and
we're getting reports of them resigning over the course of
this past week. We have and our message has been
consistent from the very beginning. One day of a shutdown

(30:53):
was too much. Air traffic controllers cannot be used as
a political pawn and I can help everyone know the
end of this story. People can't live without money. It's
putting us in a position for an air traffic controller
to have to not only deal with this profession, but
then way going home and having to have the consequences
of being at a home and trying to explain to

(31:14):
your family and you're going to go into one of
the most demanding jobs in the world and you don't
know when you're going to get paid again. Our message
is simple, open a government and it has to open out.
That's the real issue and that's the only way that
this is going to be solved.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Another item that popped up over the weekend, all of
a sudden, I'm hearing about the President is talking about
getting involved in Nigeria because of the fact that they
are killing Christians in Nigeria. The story is is that
the country of Nigeria is a very large country, almost

(31:47):
as big as the United States. They're very rich in
oil and gas, and we have had a good relationship
with that country for a very long time. Boko Haram
is a terrorist group that is there and they're killing people.
And they the country's about fifty percent Christian fifty percent Muslim,
and they're killing both Christian and Muslim. But I thought

(32:12):
we'd weigh in with Mike Walts, who's the UN Ambassador,
was asked briefly about it over the weekend.

Speaker 14 (32:19):
What you have as a terrorist organization, particularly in the
North and Nigeria, Boko Haram, that is literally burning churches,
massacring people, torturing people, running them out of their homes,
to the tunes of tens, if not hundreds of thousands.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
This has been going on for some time. I remember
Boko Haram talking about there were persecuting the citizens of
Nigeria many many years ago, Christians and Muslims. I don't
know what they're how they pick and choose their victims.
General Jack Keane was asked about it as well.

Speaker 11 (32:53):
I really don't know. I mean a couple of things
so audiences understand. I mean, the instability in Nigeria is real.
I mean, this is a major country, two hundred and
thirty seven million, is the most popular country in Africa.
They got huge oil and energy resources there and we've
always had a relationship with them. We've got an arms
deal heading their way for over three hundred million dollars

(33:15):
to assist them and the government. It's not a particularly
effective government. They've got major corruption issues and they've got
an insurgency that's raising in their country led by Bokoharram.
It's a radical islamis Chihad organization. The Islamic State also
has presence there. Christians are certainly being killed over forty

(33:37):
something thousand, but so are Muslims. There's over twenty five
thousand Muslims that have been killed as a result of
this insurgency. We have a lot of experience with insurgencies
and they are complicated issues. To be sure. We have
helped this country with training in the past, and I
think if we have what we have to do is
the government is certainly doing it. When the president is

(33:58):
talking about possibly get more involved, get let's make an
assessment of what really are the issues and what's realistic
about what we can do about something. I mean, this
insurgency has been there raging since two thousand and nine.
It's not going to go away overnight. This would take
some major effort to put that insurgency down, as you
have seen us do in a Rock as well. As

(34:21):
in Afghanistan, their challenge is associated with this, to be sure,
So what can we do to help that government is
going to be the question that's realistic and then how
effective is it going to be or we're just throwing
money away. So an objective assessment of where we stand
and what's realistic I think is kind of needed here.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Well, I'm running between the lines, but General Kean did
not sound all that keen on going into Nigeria. He
talked about it. It's complicated, it's been going on for a
long time. It's not going to change anytime soon. It's
going to take a major, major effort. What surprised me was,
I've I believe Donald Trump when he says I want

(35:03):
to end forever wars. He doesn't want to start. He
didn't want to get into the middle of a war,
especially a civil war. You never want to get involved
in a civil war because it's just a recipe for disaster.
So we'll see what bubbles up on this story about
Nigeria over the weekend. Also, there was a story that

(35:27):
at first was a little confusing, but it was about
somebody on a train heading into London who was running
through the train stabbing people. Well, it turns out where
they have a video now today of this guy who
was outside a barber shop in London recently and had

(35:49):
I'm talking about a blade that was had to be
twelve to twenty inch, a big, huge blade. It wasn't
a machete, but it was big, long blade, and he
goes barging into the barbershop and all the barbers and
their customers scramble and the guy just kind of stood
there and rambled for a while, look like he was drunk,

(36:11):
and then he just walked out. He didn't do anything,
but he's the suspect. He's in custody, and he's the
guy who went through the train stabbing people. As the
people that were getting stabbed were running through the train
warning people in other cars to watch out. There's a
guy coming with a big knife and he's stabbing people

(36:32):
and they had blood dripping off of them. It was
a horrifying scene. So the engineer of the train radioed
ahead and got the tracks switched to that he could
pull off to a local station and the police could
arrive and help the wounded and try to find the
guy on the trainer and arrest him, which they give
the engineer a lot of credit for saving a lot

(36:53):
of lives, and that's what happened. They arrested him. There
is one out of the eleven people that were stabblished,
one that's still in critical condition. But there's Nick Robertson
is over in London. He had kind of a summary
about this particular story.

Speaker 17 (37:11):
Yeah, this new detail about the stabbing in London earlier
in the day is a troubling, very troubling detail for
the police, British Transport Police. It's one hundred miles between
that stabbing in London earlier in the day and then
where his belief to have got on the train and
stabbed these eleven different people. The ten counts there, you say,

(37:33):
of attempted murder on one kind of actual bodily harm
is also being brought. So that leaves us sort of
a gap in his day that undoubtedly the police will
be looking at. They've named him as Anthony Williams, a
thirty two year old man, still obviously being held by
the police at the moment, but for so many other

(37:54):
passengers this was an absolutely horrific and horrifying few minutes,
about fifteen minutes of their lives. Where he is literally
rampaging down the train. Initially people thinking this was some
kind of Halloween prank on Saturday evening, before seeing blood,
before seeing victims with huge gashes. There's a lot of

(38:15):
praise for members of staff of the rail service. In fact,
one member of staff of the rail service is credited
with saving people's lives. And this person is still in
a life threatening condition in hospital and those ten very
severely wounded people on Saturday night, he is the only
one who remains in a critical condition, in a life

(38:37):
threatening condition in fact, and the rail driver, the train
driver or engineer as you might call him, has also
had a lot of praise passed. Is where a former
military veteran who made the call from the train to
alert the authorities what was happening, got the train diverted
to a nearby station so that the medics and the
police could intervene quickly and do life life saving procedures

(39:01):
literally at the track side. If it had trained had
stopped somewhere else or later, the casualty tolld could have
been much higher. But the police now clear just one perpetrator,
and with this troubling detail that it tried to kill
somebody else, earlier in the day one hundred miles.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Away, so I'm sure they'll get more details on all
of that. We have. Wall Street today was a mixed bag.
Dad Joes Industrials down two hundred and twenty six to
forty seven thousand, three point thirty six, SMP up eleven,
nazdack up one hundred and nine, price of gold up

(39:36):
seventeen dollars back above four thousand to four thy thirteen,
and oil was up just a few pennies sixty one
dollars for a barrel of oil. That's it for today.
Thank you for coming by. We will do this again tomorrow.
Hope to see you then.
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