June 11, 2025 • 40 mins
Jimbo and Kyle review this Robin WIlliams movie where he actually plays a bad guy in a movie. His character is something like you have never seen before from him in a movie..enjoy!
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
On lights, shingles, job say Slights eighty three, Lights in
the Realm, love black and white movies and TV food
through the stories we on you, soap, screen, tails, on
food in the magics. They do say them.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So it is if we tell us that tells.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
We have the more.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Someone seems said they don't have any friends, it makes
me feel bathroom.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Who said doesn't have any friends?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Say the photog I had the one hour place.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
We really don't know that much about.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Him, you know, I mean you might even have a
lot of friends. He probably has a girlfriend and a
mommy and a daddy who love him.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
I've been doing mini lab work for over twenty years now.
I consider it an important job.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Him, missus Yorkist.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Can I get that address again?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yes? It's three two six Sorno terrorists. Have you got
their family photos?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I didn't mind if I take a lot. You're a
very lucky man, mister Jorkan. You have a wonderful family,
and if you don't mind my saying so, a very
beautiful house too. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the words snapshot was.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Originally a hunting term. You have to look like having fun.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
This is all.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
Come on, Academy Award winner Robin Williams one hour photo.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
All right, guys, welcome back to the Tragedy Cinema Podcast.
I'm your host Jim Bo and go host Kyle Kyle.
Today we are going to be talking about a movie
when am I starring legendary actor Robin Williams in a
more serious role, Not only a serious role, but i'd
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say a sinister role. Yeah. He never really played many villains.
If you will, there's only a couple that I can
think of, like this movie and Insomnia.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
I don't really know if there's another one that he
really portrayed an evil person that I know.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Of, something sinister or even like yeah, because he's usually the.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
Good guy Peter pan Jaman, gi Yea, Theodore Roosevelt or
whatever and I'm at the museum or whatever. Yeah, so
this really shows the range of his acting. I do
believe it's such a different film than anything you have
ever seen him in. Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Oh, I love it. Very good movie.
Speaker 8 (04:38):
So, Kyle, before we get started question time, I have
a question for you, and it's not going to be
an easy one because, like I say, they made your
favorite Remy Williams movie, and you would go something like
Patria Adams or something. I don't know. But Kyle, I
don't know if you are of the age, did you
ever have to take your photos to like the one
hour development place or were you always just like the
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over or like two days later go pick them up.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm probably just old enough to have those memories of
actually going back to the store and actually having photos
developed and coming back a few hours later, right, I
remember going back to like we'd go get photos developed
and go grist shopping and then come back and then
pick up with photos and usually just about that one
hour time frame. But it was very early in my
childhood also, but like we went to digital pretty quickly after.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That, right, So, yeah, did you ever have the polaroid
you would snap it and have to Yeah. I do
the polar picturing every night that too. Yeah, so those
were a lot of fun. You'd even go by the
timeline of the film.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
This film came out in two thousand and two, I
would have been nine with this film came out, but
would say, yeah, first ten years of my life probably
mostly polaroid photos and then then afterwards things we mostly
dishlized for that.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Yeah. I remember having those the disposable cameras too, remember,
and in this movie he has that camera that has
the telescopic lens that comes out, you know, almost like
Pinocchio's nose that comes out. I had one of those too,
So this really hit home for me. I was like, man,
I remember this back when I was like in high
school junior eye.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
This film particularly, I remember feel like like it is
the simultaneously the most like of a time film but
also kind of a timeless concept, especially today.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I feel like it takes on.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Even more broad ramifications for today than it did back
when it came out.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
And again, this is another one of those films that
is so creepy because it could be real. Yeah, oh
yeah for sure. And those always add another element of fear,
fear of the day to day. Don't say any thing.
You never know who you're going to run into. That's
why I'm always nice to everybody except Kyle No, because
you know me right. So with that being said, Kyle,
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let's kick it off, all.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right, Jimbo.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, like I said, Jim said, we're covering. The film
One Hour Photo, released on September thirteenth of two thousand
and two. One Hour Photo follows the story of a
mentally unstable photo developer who targets and upper middle class
family after his obsession with them becomes more sick and
disturbing than any of them could have possibly imagined. This
film was directed and written by Mark Romanek, producers by
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Pamela Kaffler, I'm Christine Vachem and Stan.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Lukowski. Well Collski, I'm gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Mike was yasky, Mike, Mike Wilowski. Yeah, composed by Reynold
Hall and Johnny Klemick. Cinematographer was John Jeff Cronenworth, editor
was Jeffrey Ford, and casting directors was Deborah Quala and
Trishia Wood, and brushing designer was Tom Foden Foden Foden.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Budget for the.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Film was twelve million dollars in two thousand and two.
Just for inflation, that'd be about twenty one point four
million dollars today opening weekend, and made three hundred and
twenty one thousand dollars just for inflation, they'd be about
five hundred and seventy three thousand dollars. But it made
more than its money back up in the gross worlwide
Canada at thirty one and zero point six million dollars
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for inflation, maybe about fifty six point three million dollars.
And then it made even more money overseas in the
gross worldwide where it made a whopping fifty two point
two million dollars, and then worldwide and just for inflation
that would have been ninety three point one million dollars.
So this movie was actually.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah kind of a hit, even though by that opening weekend, the.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Opening weekend, you would be like, oh no, we got
up on the theatrical run though it apparently like it
got some huge buzz going around it and really paid
off for him. And it surprised me when I was
going through the budget and opening weekend for this too,
I didn't expect this film to be like kind of
a huge breadwinner in many phases. But if anything, this
is probably one of uh Rob Williams whole career, like
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probably one of his better films overall in terms of
like just box office gross wise, not worse than critically wise,
also up there as well, So really impressive on that
on that front, yeap. Moving on to the cast here,
we of course have Rob Williams playing the the star
character of cy Perish or in this actual casting for
the cast notes, and his name is actually Seymour Parish
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for his real name. I could imagine anything side from Seymour,
but that's that's. I've met a few Seymours in my life.
I never remember a Seymore who saysn't be called Ci.
It hurts, it hurts it, but not Seymore, not for
not Si, not for Seymour Sid Yeah I said for More?
No sure, who said for then? Sylvester now sly Sevester
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like a cat who said for said vicious said vicious, Yeah,
said Vicious.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
We're gonna say that. Robin.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Of course, I've known for many great characters that you
use basically America's uncle for generation many respects. But of
course films like Missus Doubtfire Nick ninety three, maybe Sydney
maybe yeah, Sidney said, said yeah, works sitting pretty well too.
And I think Sidney also like, here'sould be a guy's
name on occasion. I think mostly his girl name, but
I think there should be a guy's name. It's your story,
you stick it through it exactly exactly. I'm taking a
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hold for myself and I'm crawling right in there. Yeah.
Robby was also such films as a Goodwill Hunting in
ninet ninety seven and Hook in nineteen ninety one. So
Robin Williams of just an amazing talent, I think in
this one especially, like he's known for playing a lot
of comedic roles, but and this one especially is kind
of like a much sadder role for a paratu to play,
even like evil necessarily, but just clearly sad person.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So that's really interesting. I think this role and that's
where you're gonna get. Like comedic actors.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know, dramatic actress can somebody struggle playing comedy roles,
but comedy role actors can really excel at at sad roles.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I've noticed as a kind of like actress go over
over over their careers.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Why would you say another comedian actor that played a serious.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Role, probably Bill Murray. He's probably done a few films
like that.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I can't remember the name of the Top of the
or like Lost in Translations with that too, kind of
a melancholy sadness kind of deal.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
I think Adam Sandler too, Yeah, when he played.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
In and Funny People as well too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So, like many many comedic actors, like they have a
flair for doing any incredibly like not necessarily a dramatic role,
but its cically a sad role, especially if there's like
a deep sadness coming from a lot of comedians, I
feel like, and they kind of just tap into that,
especially for some movie roles that really shines.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So that really impressed him on that front. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So, and Rob Williams is of course, you know, no exception.
If anything, He's the reason I made that kind of
like rule in my head.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Like maybe Michael Keaton. I don't know if he's really considered,
but he has some funny movies too.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
He does have some funny movies too, and he excels
at that and so yeah, but that's just it's just
a general Jim Carrey, would you say, Jim Carrey. Oh yeah,
Jim Carrey for sure. Yeah, Jim Cary for sure. Definitely,
Like he like when he plays a sad role, he
goes sad. Yeah, so yeah, that's just a general role
I have in my head. It may not be accurate,
but that's just what I kind of think of, and
I usually think of rout Wings. I think of that
role like when he plays a sad role, he plays
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a sad role. It could be reflective of like real
life emotional trauma.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Right it's two hour photos.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I will say what I'm thinking right there.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It was just like yeah, yeah, anyways, that's Rob Williams
also and starts in the film Connie Nielsen playing the
role of Nina Yorken. Connie Nielsen is also in such
a lot of great films. Actually, I'm like Gladiator in
two thousand. I'm just recently in Gladiator two in twenty
twenty four, and it's also in the film Nobody in
twenty twenty one with Bob Utenkirk, And it was also
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in the One of One Movies One twenty seventeen, and
a few other films like that Jimmy, look are about
to say something? We're you gonna sneeze one the other. No,
I'm just thinking, just thinking. Okay, you're thinking your mouth open.
That's why you're just like I saw your brain working. Well,
it's always barking. I'm just trying to come up with
the next insault for Kyle. No, exactly, always never, never stops.
Next up we have Michael Varton playing the role of
will Yorgan. Michael Varton was also in a few shows
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such as Alias in two thousand and one, two thousand
and six, the movie Monster in Law two thousand and five,
and the movie Never Been Kissed in nineteen ninety nine.
Next up, we have Dylan Smith playing Jacob Yorgon. Dylan
Smith has been in this movie and one of the
movie of note, Sickly Passed of the Caribbean, the Curse
of the Black Pearl, where he played young Will in
the opening sea level.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, so that's the same boy, right, there. Yeah, makes
you when I rewatched the opening scene of just be like,
sure that's a that's a kid.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
That's that kid.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So two thousand and three, now he's you know, twenty
two years older. He's until he's my age.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Now that's how sad. Probably he is my age. He's
my age. That's sad.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Thanks Jim, poor kid, poor kid, he's my age. Next
time we have Ara Daniels playing Maya Maya Verson. Aaron
Daniels was also in a few horror movies, so she
was in the film A House one Thousand Corpses in
two thousand and three, Shaky Shivers in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
What a name of a movie.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Shaky Shivers me Timbers Shivers, Timbers, and the The Sitter
in twenty eleven, which is the hard movie in itself.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
But that's just hold it the film. Yep, it's a
bad movie. Get it.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's bad, Okay, I got it. It wasn't fun fun,
I didn't like it. I went to the theater see that,
and I thought like that that's generally, yeah, I did.
I did see The Sitter. It was not a good movie.
And also it was interprobably my age to see them
just putting out there. Next time we have Paul Kim
Junior playing the role of Yoshi. Paul Kim Junior was
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also in the film Hullo Josh, Yeah, Luigi. The Name's
taboo now. Paul Kim was also movie such as The
Hulk in two thousand and three, and he was also
in The National Lampoon's Door Day Dorm Days one and
two in two thousand three and two thousand and six,
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SPA two thousand and six, respectfully. And he's also in
the film Transomnia in two thousand and eight. Next up
we got Gary Cole playing the role of Bill Owens.
Gary Cole was also touched films such as The Father, Intellivigon,
Nights at the Ballad of Rick of Bobby in two
thousand and six, Office Space ninety nine, and Pineapple Express
in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
You like the office space there, Kyle, Have you seen
office space?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
That's so I straight up, early years of my life,
I've seen office Pace once.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I didn't really care for it. Oh my, I thought
it was okay.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
But for years before I watched both office Space and
the Office I just thought those two things were connected.
I assumed the office space is just the movie version
of the Office, and I just assumed.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That, oh, because I was dumb.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
He still am and uh so I just assumed for years, like, oh, yeah,
that's the Office series or whatever it is where people's
are a fan of that show, The Office, I guess.
And then I washed them both eventually, and then I
was like, oh, okay, they're different things.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Okay, we're gonna have to cover the office space on.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
This podcast someday sometime.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Get around to me and I'll say it, and I'll
say like, eh, and I'll shrug my shoulders again, be
like it was a lately.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
That's really good. I didn't really understand it when I
was nine years old.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I appreciate it as are. Yeah, especially since you're in
the workforce exactly. Yeah, yeah, you understand the to come
in tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
The next day.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Next up here, we.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Actually don't have much of a castlest here. Not it's
a good cast list, good cast, but I mean it's
not a long cast list. I mean, next up we
have David Morland playing mister Siskin. David Morland was also
in the film Dounny Dark Coat in two thousand and one.
Then we have Sean p. O'Hagan playing the role of
young father. Then we have Jim Rash playing the amateur
porn guy. Jim Rash is also in the film The
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Way Way Back in twenty and thirteen. Then we have
Nick Sercy playing the role of repair man. Nick Sercy
was also in the film The Old Way in twenty
twenty three. And then we have Dave Efcher Edge edge
Fer playing the save Mark clerk. Dave Escher was also
in the film Race to Which Mountain two and nine.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Then we have Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Sherbert Schubert Schubert, not Sherbert Schubert, playing the role of
soccer coach. Jimmy Schubert was also in the film The
Italian Job in two thousand and three. And then we
have Eric la Salpe. We don't pronounce that name right
because he's a great actor. Eric Lasall playing the role
of detective James Vandersey. Eric was also in the show
Er from nine ennety four two and nine. He's also
in the film Coming to America Nickte eighty eight and
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Drop Squad in nine ninety four. And then we have
Clark Legg playing the role of Detective Paul Outerberg. Clark
Ridge probably best known his role as I can't remember
that actually the name of the role agent oh what
was his name? He was in the Avengers movies. He
was the agent who contacted all the Avengers in the
Avengers line up, Clark gig was. He also the show
of Agents of Agents of Shield for like, I don't
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want to say the film. That show ran for like
seven nine season and something like that. So you know,
big actor in that round in a small world in
this film. So he's in Inventors.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Anyways.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That concludes the cast list of One Hour Photo. Moving
on to some awards real quick. We have a few
nominations and I believe a few wins. Actually, we have
a nominations from the two thousand and three Academy of
Science Fiction Fancy Hartform's Awards, where we have a nomination
for Best Supporting Actress to Connie Nielsen, Best Writing to
Mark Romanik, Best Music to Johnny Klemock and Reynald Hall,
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Best Action Adventures Slash Thriller Film, and a win for
Best Actor to Roaldin Williams.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Then for the two thousand and three Art Directors Guil
we have.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
A nomination for the Excellent and Production Design Award and
Contemporary Film to Tom Fildom with the production ner and
Michael Manson the art writer. Then for the two thousand
and three Critics Choice Awards, the movie came in second
place for Critics Choice Awards for Best Actor to Robin Williams.
Then for the two thousand and three Dallas Fort Worth
Film Critic Association Awards, we have a nomination for the
for Best Actor to Rob Williams. Then for the twousand
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three Danish Film Awards, we have a nomination for Best
American Film to Mark Romanick. Then for the Fangoria chainsaw Awards,
we have a win for Best Actor to Williams and
third place Supporting Actress to Connie Nielsen.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah yeah, excuse me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Then for the two thousand and three Festival National d
Doping Well she nel Ombro Awards, we have a nomination
for Best Male Voice to Carla Varley for the dubbing
of Rob Williams. Then for the two thusand three International
Horror Guild we have a movie nomination for Best Movie.
And then for the two thousand and three Online Film
and Televison Association, we have a nomination for the Best
Actor the Robin Williams and Best breakthrough Filmmaker to Mark Romanack.
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This is actually his first film overall very good, Yeah,
very ill. I believe only had one of the film
on going. Actually, I need to check that out and
make sure I get it right. And then for the
two thousand and three Satellite Awards, we have the nomination
for Best Film and Anything of Jeffrey Ford and Best
Actor in a Motion Bachard Rob Williams. Then for the
two thousand and three Young Arts Awards, we have a
nomination for her Best Formance and a Feature Film Supporting
Young Actor to Dylan Smith. And then for the two
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thousand and two Golden Schmoe's Ward we have a two
thousand we have a second place win for Best Actor
of the Robin Williams. Not the Schmo, the Golden Shmemo.
He's the Golden Schmoe, not a shmo. He had golden
a good Schmo. It's good schmo, good schmo. I'm I'm
saying it with Jack Gushmo. In two thousand and two
Las Vegas Film Critic Association Society Awards, we have a
nomination for Best Actor to Rob Williams. In two thousand
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and two we have the Lil Carno film Festival Awards,
we have a nomination for a Golden Leopard Award for
the Mark to Mark Romanek. And then finally for the
two thousand and two Sundance Film Festival, we have a
nomination for Grand Jerry Prize for a Dramatical Movie to
Mark Romaneck. Technical details of the film ninety six minutes long.
Sound mix is and dobe of stereo surround sound. This
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is a color film. Aspect ratio is one point three
seven by one for the in camera scenes and one
point fifty for the photo scenes and one point eight
five for the most movie.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And I believe that covers the technical details of the film.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
This film was filmed in California, and that includes most
of the other details, right for so now we move
on to some trivia and our thoughts on the movie.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Jimbo take away from.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Me, all right, Kyle, Once again, there's not a lot
of trivia for this film. One thing I want to
point out is if you did not know that this
was Robin Williams at the beginning of the film until
he spoke, you would recognize him. But he changes his
appearance in this film, dies his hair blonde, right, and
so do you remember the first time. It might be
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the only other time that he had his hair blonde.
You remember what movie?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Oh another movie? We got a film Bond or did
you missus doutfire at that point? Nope? Oh the other
film Popeye? Oh, Popeye?
Speaker 8 (20:31):
This tailor Man, sailor Man. So I thought that was
very interesting. But as the film premiered at the Sundance
Film Festival, Robin Williams overheard viewers saying that they forgot
it was Robin Williams in the lead role for fifteen
minutes into the film. Yeah, And it is an observation
that obviously made Robin Williams proud. So he was like,
I did my job. They didn't really think it was me,
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or they forgot it was me, So that just takes it.
He was very proud of the fact that his acting
skills overcomes his appearance.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Believe.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, yeah, I would say like for the word to say,
like he sunk into this role really, really, really well,
Like he portrayed the character who is just this incredibly
sad and lonely person incredibly well just eerie, well to
the point where you like you can't like you can't
help it feel like this is there some reflection of
the real Bob Williams in this role of like the
kind of sadness and loneliness, So you can, I just
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felt in real life some degree, just because it's just
it is so eerie feeling. It's so real feeling, it's
disturbing almost well.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
In preparation for his role, Rob Williams train for two
and a half days at a photo developing training facility
in southern California on a AGFA MSc one hundred and
one dash D photo developing machine. So I got some
real experience there developing film. It sounds like cool. And
something else that's really creepy in this movie that we
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haven't touched on yet is he has this wall of
photos of this family. There's probably like three hundred and
eighty six photos at least on that wall. Yeah, I
mean it was massive.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I weren't kind of production they had to do get
just to create all the photos that they did, though,
just because like imagine having the film that whole family
and just like how we get that many photos of
them having alternative vacations and other kind of life stuff
going on there. It must have taken a long time
to actually produced that whole wall in general could have
could have been digitally altered too coldentioning alter two, and
also like we only see probably like a dozen or
so photos act.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
They're kind of far rest, far away, so it could
have just been people's cast and family.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Members, generic photo of comment. Yeah, generic kind of stock photos.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Well, I know that, you remember where that old lady
comes in. She's like, I'm like two copies please, And
he's like, oh, she has his cat. He's like, I've
never seen another person. It's always these cats and it's
just cats, cats, cats, cats cats. Well, the cats were
all cast members cats. They figured it would be easier
to get the cast members make them look natural, you
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know what I mean, than just some random cats. So
I thought that was pretty cool. During the scene in
which side discusses, oh, this is the one about the cats,
another ending the photos of nothing better cats, the photos
of each cat were photos of the cast and crew
had brought in their own pets. According to the American
Humane Society, it was seen as a way to get
more natural looking catfolds instead of staging shows with trained animals.
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So my memory serves me correct.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Oh nice, that's really cool you had in your head.
And also you have to snopped right there.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
So near the beginning of the movie, as the Yorkan
family is going over their set of developed phots, you
remember they're sitting on the couch at their house. They're
eating Chinese food. On the table, there is a open
fortune cookie. There is a fortune laying there and I
don't know if you call it what it said. Kyle
oh Cool said, well, someone wants you to be happy. Oh,
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and it was director Mark Romanak. He searched through thirty
fortune cookies before he found one that related to the
film and used it in the scene. It's fantastic if
you think about that even further, when it's the photo
developer guy that wants his wife to be happy and
their son to be happy, it just puts a.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Whole another great factor in the session with him.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Yeah right, wow, I mean you think about this. Robin
Williams was so obsessed with this family and development film.
He knew where they lived, he knew their house. They
basically wanted to be known as his uncle.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Sigh.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
He's buying toys for the kid he's going to like
his baseball practice or a baseball, football, soccer soccer who
after buys a book that he sees in the Ladies Handbager.
She's getting developed, starts reading a little bit. It's familiar
with the author, so he can have a conversation with
her at the mall Over lunch. It's just the depths
that he went to in credibly character exactly So. Robin
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Williams was a fan of the Japanese anime series Neon
Genesis Evangelion.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Thank you, I knew you would know.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
I specifically asked to have a model from the series
incorporated as part of the film. The model is self,
contrary to Jake's explanation that is of a good guy,
is of an unintelligent creature like antagonist from the adult
oriented film ending the series, Neon Genesis Evangelion. The End
of Evangelion from nineteen ninety seven. The box toy was
supposedly from Robin Williamson's own private collection.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, I've heard rumors about that, but I'm not actually
sure that's actually a true fact. I've had I've heard
different kind of things because simficly like it's more like
a representation of the film itself, And I believe the
actual prop studios chose that toy specifically because they had
a large blade, which kind of the blade that he
steals later in the film. And also the red eyes
which kind of vimits his his dream sequence there where
his bloody eyes.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
That's crazy too.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
That's there's a lot of great cinematography scenes in this.
They're like the one where he goes to like the
house that he he's runnering around the house. Oh, Jake,
you gotta clean up your room, and then he goes
and poops and he's, oh, you know for me.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
The scene where he's watching football, Yeah, and he goes
it's on the couch and watches football.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
The family comes on there. Oh hi uncle, They're like
what I was like, Yeah, what is happening here? Fantasy?
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Yeah, he just said he get this car thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Really great m m.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
But Robert Williams often played practical jokes in the middle
of a take during the making of a film. So,
according to producer Christine Vashan, Williams burst out of a
doorway completely nude during one take for a chase scene.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I'm ready catch me.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
If you can develop this, you got your white angle
lins on.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I could just see him doing stupid stuff. So only imagine.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Robin Williams was usually cast as the save Mart manager
Bill Owens, who later played was played by Gary Cole,
but after reading the screenplayed for a second time, Williams
requested the role of Seymour Parrish. So was Robin williams
request that he plays the bad guy interesting. Robin Williams
had to shave most of his arms, upper chest and
hands for this movie because of his extremely hairy body.
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I feel you, Robin, I'm barely hairy too. Between takes,
Robert Williams would improvised do committee takes on the scenes
as if one hour photo was a comedy.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I want that over to cut so bad? Can you imagine?
Oh my gosh, that would I would die.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Oh man, that feels like the like the best possible,
like so completely out of tone and just completely the
wrong way to do this movie, but also kind of
would love to see it.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Oh man, I wish I could see those takes.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Oh, I guess see if I can find him online somewhere.
I find them on line, whant to share them on Facebook.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Trent Reznor of nine inch Nels was initially chosen by
Mary I'm sorry Mark Roman to provide the musical score
for this film. Rominecke Calver opted not to use the
score of Resnor provided some of the composition meant to
be used in this film, where we worked and released
of the album Still by nine Inch nells.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That okay, yeah, I probably wouldn't ask Trent Reznor to
preached this film. Once again we see like just because
he's good doesn't mean he's right.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Once again we see Robin Williams and Jack Nicholson vying
for a part because Jack Nicholson was originally offered the
role of Seymour Perish but he turned it down. Wow,
I mean we just talked about that in our anniversary
episode about the Joker. Yeah, Robi was accepted, but then, oh,
I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Something you see though, Still like what a completely different
film too, because I couldn't imagine Jack Nielson playing off
the kind of physicality that Robin william plays off in
this film.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Especially yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
When finding out what room will is and at the
hotel s, I ask if he's in two seventeen. Two
seventeen is famously the hotel room for Stephen King's novel
The Shining It's two thirty seven. In the film, Robin
Williams was considered for the lead role in The Shining
But guess who was the lead role.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
In Shack Jack Nichelson. So here we go.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
They've all been They've been tied together for years in Hollywood,
and that just goes to a testament of how great
of actors they were.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
Robin Williams characters has the same last name in this
movie as his character in Jumanji in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Last name, lastame, last name, Oh Parish. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
The number twenty three appears frequently throughout this movie. Catch
twenty three is the production company name. Robin Williams later
stars and a futuristic thriller entitled The Final Cut in
two thousand and four.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
College. Have you ever seen The Final Cut? I've never
seen the Mantle Cut.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Well, it's He plays a similar role to his role
in One Hour Photo. In the film, Robin Williams stars
as a man whose job is to edit the removed
memory implants of deceased individuals and make them into tribute
movies at their funerals. Oh my gosh, but his life
is soon in danger when he edits them men of
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a deceased wealthy man discovers he was sexually abusing his
daughter and gets targeted by an activist. It sounds very interesting.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
That's that's quite a cell. Oh my gosh, another sad
movie probably was there. That's must discover that. That just
sounds Yeah, it's not interesting. I'll I had to listen before.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
We talked about that already. This is the second time
or the second draw in two thousand and two where
Robert Williams played villain. The first one was Insomnia, So
they both hear out the same year, and that's hard
to believe.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, freat incredible.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Definitely like the year where Rob Williams went kind of
out there for his kind of roles, kind of like
broke type, right, be like, hey, I can do all
kinds of movies.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I can't. I don't have to do just comedy movies.
So Kyle overall thoughts in this film, let me know,
let me know, No, you let me know. Not let
yourself know.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Jim, I'm want to tell you, I think this movie
is fantastic. It's really awesome. It is strange, eerie and
frightening and just absolutely a joy to watch. I think
the movie actually holds up better today than it did
when You Win it came out. I think this movie
only gets better with time, actually just because the you know,
it's amazing. This film came out before the rise of
social media and like sharing, everyone sharing their own photos
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and life experiences all the time, NonStop, and the idea
of someone watching you and developing an unhealthy obsession over
you is so frightening and captivating for normal.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Domesticity and kind of lifestyles. The that it's it's incredibly intriguing.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
You know, there's you know, like you know, there's a
there's a frightening you know thought of like how many
people in the world are just like side Perish, you know,
people who don't commit violent acts necessarily or do something
like to too bawful, but clearly have those levels of
obsession with someone else to the point where they have,
you know, like an encyclopedic knowledge of someone who they
don't even that they don't even know them the other
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way around.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
It is very interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Like, only it's probably only gotten worse today than it
was back in two thousand and four, when back in
two thousand and two when this film came out, So.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
It really is something else the most part right there.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
This film is just exceptional in that way too, And
also like at the same time, it's it's it's time too,
because like this is about developing film, the helping photos,
you know, something that is no longer done at all
thing because now everything's digital, everything is.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
I mean you can but you just basically upload them
to your yeah yeah, everyone else Walgreens app and go
to Walgreens and get them.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You can get them that way now, you know. But
still that's just like that's just a regular printer doing
a regular job too. Like it's not like the same
time like having things, you know, kind of like in
a in a like having things treated in the right
way to have them actually render out properly and all
kind of stuff too.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
So it's it's still it's it's much different.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Now than it was back then, so which you really
didn't have interesting as a period piece as well. So
this is a film that I think holds up incredibly well.
Still a very mature movie tho. I wouldn't recommend a
kid watching them here, especially for that one bloody out
of Isen, especially that kind of comes out of nowhere
coming as a sucker punch. Really like if you don't
know it's coming, then oh boy, that is a that
is an out of left field kind of scene there
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really holds up well. Uh, but yeah, I think it
was very interesting choices being made to simply, I think
it was interesting having the choice for him not to
actually commit to nat of violence that well that will
not an active, true physical harm to like murder someone
or actually try and hurt them in a way that
would do permanent, lasting damage to like the only act
that he does is when he opens the girl on
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he opens the door on my Apparasi's character, on my
Apparis's character and like, you know, buster bust her forehead
and right there kind of but outside of that, it's
just like it's the threat of violence or like kind
of like that or like, you know, a threatening attitude
that is his real crime. And I think that was
very interesting for him to kind of play that kind
of role where like he doesn't he's not interested in
truly killing someone. He's just interested in shaming them and
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getting them to see the truth in his life, in
his in his own kind of sick, morbid way. It's
very interesting to have his character motivations be played out
that way, and also the kind of reveal at the
end of while the implication of what abuse he must
have suffered in his own childhood and why he does
when he does is you know, it doesn't excuse his
behavior behavior, but it does make a degree of sense
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where you understand how a person like that would come
to the conclusion that he does for that family, and
how is uh and how his his his situation as
it was left untreated, could have led to those kind
of those kind of obsessions that he has.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
So very interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
They're from a mental health perspective and also from a
realism perspective, how this kind of goes down it, you know,
once again adds to that feeling of just plausibility of
like there are so many people out there in the world,
they were just like cy Parish that need that frankly
need to be treated cautiously, but also need to be
treated to recover and hopefully be better people than they
are now. So incredible film that way. If I had
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to get a radiance, and I give it a strong eight,
maybe even a nine, I think this film holds up
in critly well and I highly recommend it.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
It's a great film. Jimbo, where do you kind of feeling.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
This shle I think we're both right on point. I
love to see when an actor goes outside of his
comfort role something that he's known to do, and do
something completely out of left field, something you did not expect. Now,
this goes to show how much you appreciate Robins Williams
as an actor and the legacy that he lived to
go from a comedy standpoint to a more serious drama
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like Patch Adams, and then to the villainous role like this,
I think something that he should be remembered for as well. Also,
since his films came out, let's talk about the mental
issues that have been discovered and treated for society, because
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back then it wasn't really talked about. Today you hear
about it all the time about mental illness.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
And I think by him doing this, it opened my
eyes to more of his career and I really enjoyed
this movie. I mean, he's outstanding in this movie. He
when he's doing those flashback scenes where he's with the
family or he's thinking he's with the family. And then
at the end, you know, at the beginning of the movie,
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they pull him into a room and they're like, well,
you know what's on these pictures? Right, He's like, well yeah, yeah.
They're like, why'd you do it. And he sets there
for a good thirty seconds probably, and you just see
it in his eyes, Like, I mean that right there
made the movie for me. I mean, just to see
his expression right then and there. I was like, this
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is gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, And then to.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Come to find out, you know, he see, he knows
that this family, the guy is cheating on his wife,
doesn't really take care of his kid, you know. He
tells him. He's like, look, you've got a good family.
You have everything that most men would want. And then
when he finds out that he is cheating because the
other lady had the development of her photo and he's
going through there and he sees the lady's husband besides
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to take action, and once he do, he goes to
the hotel. He acts like he's the person ordering the
food exactly, and he goes up there, busting the door
and he makes them act like they're performing let's just
say sexual favors, but he doesn't. He's like, no, you
can't touch it. You're not really doing this. This is
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just pretend. And he's got the camera and he's taken.
They think he's taking pictures of them. I'm thinking he's
taking pictures of them to turn into his wife. But
come to find out at the end, he's like, you know,
he's at the police stable and he's like, you know,
can I see my pictures? And they give him the pictures.
He opens up the picture, he's looking at me and
he starts slaying them out on the table. And what
it is is a picture of the shower head, a
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picture of the corner of the couch, a picture of
the the edd of the bed. He doesn't take any
pictures of any of the of the two people that
were in there. But by what but him doing that,
he ruined the guy's life. Yeah, because now they've called
the wife, they say, hey, where's he at? This is
gonna be a problem, And you know, the lady knows.
She's like, he's like, look, I know, I know he's
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sleeping with her. Just I need to get hold of
him now.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
And I think.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
I think Robin Williams was actually trying to be the
good guy in this movie by pointing out an error,
but I think he went about it the whole wrong way.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Oh, absolutely, the whole wrong way, absolutely, like like this
is not the way to do anything like this at all.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
This is none of your businesses most fart.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
But yeah, this was definitely you know, side Parrish's way
of like forcing the truth to become undeniable so that
they could reclaim that they could you know, form the
actual family unit that he that he wanted in his
own fantasy, right, you know, he wants the perfect family
for them to be.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
He wants them.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
He just wanted to be part of the family.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And the moment that he realizes that the father in
particular is failing to meet his role in that scenario,
it completely breaks him.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
It shatters him to pieces.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
And the cinematography where he's sitting on break and he's
looking at that picture of them at the Christmas tree
and the lights start moving and then the picture fades
over it it's him.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Holding like up a slash slatter. YEA loved it. It's great.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
This is a great movie. I'm gonna give it a
nine out of a ten, just because it's something different,
it's something fresh, it was something new, something that hadn't
been done.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, and also just oh my gosh, like the India
itself too, like where like it's clear that everything in
his life is kind of going like he's gonna go
to jail, for this and all kind of stuff too,
and then you slowly see him kind of like retreating
into the fantasy where it's closed on a picture of
them altogether, right, and kind of as a family, as
a family altogether, And it's clear that he's just retreating
in this fantasy again because he can't possibly acknowledge the
reality of what it's actually happened.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Right. And it's a fantastic film. If you haven't seen this,
it's so good. It's so good. I mean, he's following her.
He sneaks in a picture of the kid.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
The kid just came back from this trip because it
gave him a disposable camera, and he sneaks in one
of the pictures of the guy with cheating on his
wife to his son's film packet.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
It's amazing. Yeah, So.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
I think that's great. If you'd like to follow us,
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Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yes? It's three two six Sorno terrorists. Have you got
their family photos?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
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Speaker 4 (02:20):
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and if you don't mind my saying so, a very
beautiful house too. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 4 (02:52):
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Speaker 2 (03:07):
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Speaker 7 (03:11):
Come on, Academy Award winner Robin Williams one hour photo.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
All right, guys, welcome back to the Tragedy Cinema Podcast.
I'm your host Jim Bo and go host Kyle Kyle.
Today we are going to be talking about a movie
when am I starring legendary actor Robin Williams in a
more serious role, Not only a serious role, but i'd
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say a sinister role. Yeah. He never really played many villains.
If you will, there's only a couple that I can
think of, like this movie and Insomnia.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
I don't really know if there's another one that he
really portrayed an evil person that I know.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Of, something sinister or even like yeah, because he's usually the.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
Good guy Peter pan Jaman, gi Yea, Theodore Roosevelt or
whatever and I'm at the museum or whatever. Yeah, so
this really shows the range of his acting. I do
believe it's such a different film than anything you have
ever seen him in. Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Oh, I love it. Very good movie.
Speaker 8 (04:38):
So, Kyle, before we get started question time, I have
a question for you, and it's not going to be
an easy one because, like I say, they made your
favorite Remy Williams movie, and you would go something like
Patria Adams or something. I don't know. But Kyle, I
don't know if you are of the age, did you
ever have to take your photos to like the one
hour development place or were you always just like the
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over or like two days later go pick them up.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm probably just old enough to have those memories of
actually going back to the store and actually having photos
developed and coming back a few hours later, right, I
remember going back to like we'd go get photos developed
and go grist shopping and then come back and then
pick up with photos and usually just about that one
hour time frame. But it was very early in my
childhood also, but like we went to digital pretty quickly after.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That, right, So, yeah, did you ever have the polaroid
you would snap it and have to Yeah. I do
the polar picturing every night that too. Yeah, so those
were a lot of fun. You'd even go by the
timeline of the film.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
This film came out in two thousand and two, I
would have been nine with this film came out, but
would say, yeah, first ten years of my life probably
mostly polaroid photos and then then afterwards things we mostly
dishlized for that.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Yeah. I remember having those the disposable cameras too, remember,
and in this movie he has that camera that has
the telescopic lens that comes out, you know, almost like
Pinocchio's nose that comes out. I had one of those too,
So this really hit home for me. I was like, man,
I remember this back when I was like in high
school junior eye.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
This film particularly, I remember feel like like it is
the simultaneously the most like of a time film but
also kind of a timeless concept, especially today.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I feel like it takes on.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Even more broad ramifications for today than it did back
when it came out.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
And again, this is another one of those films that
is so creepy because it could be real. Yeah, oh
yeah for sure. And those always add another element of fear,
fear of the day to day. Don't say any thing.
You never know who you're going to run into. That's
why I'm always nice to everybody except Kyle No, because
you know me right. So with that being said, Kyle,
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let's kick it off, all.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right, Jimbo.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, like I said, Jim said, we're covering. The film
One Hour Photo, released on September thirteenth of two thousand
and two. One Hour Photo follows the story of a
mentally unstable photo developer who targets and upper middle class
family after his obsession with them becomes more sick and
disturbing than any of them could have possibly imagined. This
film was directed and written by Mark Romanek, producers by
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Pamela Kaffler, I'm Christine Vachem and Stan.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Lukowski. Well Collski, I'm gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Mike was yasky, Mike, Mike Wilowski. Yeah, composed by Reynold
Hall and Johnny Klemick. Cinematographer was John Jeff Cronenworth, editor
was Jeffrey Ford, and casting directors was Deborah Quala and
Trishia Wood, and brushing designer was Tom Foden Foden Foden.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Budget for the.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Film was twelve million dollars in two thousand and two.
Just for inflation, that'd be about twenty one point four
million dollars today opening weekend, and made three hundred and
twenty one thousand dollars just for inflation, they'd be about
five hundred and seventy three thousand dollars. But it made
more than its money back up in the gross worlwide
Canada at thirty one and zero point six million dollars
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for inflation, maybe about fifty six point three million dollars.
And then it made even more money overseas in the
gross worldwide where it made a whopping fifty two point
two million dollars, and then worldwide and just for inflation
that would have been ninety three point one million dollars.
So this movie was actually.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah kind of a hit, even though by that opening weekend, the.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Opening weekend, you would be like, oh no, we got
up on the theatrical run though it apparently like it
got some huge buzz going around it and really paid
off for him. And it surprised me when I was
going through the budget and opening weekend for this too,
I didn't expect this film to be like kind of
a huge breadwinner in many phases. But if anything, this
is probably one of uh Rob Williams whole career, like
(08:24):
probably one of his better films overall in terms of
like just box office gross wise, not worse than critically wise,
also up there as well, So really impressive on that
on that front, yeap. Moving on to the cast here,
we of course have Rob Williams playing the the star
character of cy Perish or in this actual casting for
the cast notes, and his name is actually Seymour Parish
(08:47):
for his real name. I could imagine anything side from Seymour,
but that's that's. I've met a few Seymours in my life.
I never remember a Seymore who saysn't be called Ci.
It hurts, it hurts it, but not Seymore, not for
not Si, not for Seymour Sid Yeah I said for More?
No sure, who said for then? Sylvester now sly Sevester
(09:10):
like a cat who said for said vicious said vicious, Yeah,
said Vicious.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
We're gonna say that. Robin.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Of course, I've known for many great characters that you
use basically America's uncle for generation many respects. But of
course films like Missus Doubtfire Nick ninety three, maybe Sydney
maybe yeah, Sidney said, said yeah, works sitting pretty well too.
And I think Sidney also like, here'sould be a guy's
name on occasion. I think mostly his girl name, but
I think there should be a guy's name. It's your story,
you stick it through it exactly exactly. I'm taking a
(09:41):
hold for myself and I'm crawling right in there. Yeah.
Robby was also such films as a Goodwill Hunting in
ninet ninety seven and Hook in nineteen ninety one. So
Robin Williams of just an amazing talent, I think in
this one especially, like he's known for playing a lot
of comedic roles, but and this one especially is kind
of like a much sadder role for a paratu to play,
even like evil necessarily, but just clearly sad person.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So that's really interesting. I think this role and that's
where you're gonna get. Like comedic actors.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know, dramatic actress can somebody struggle playing comedy roles,
but comedy role actors can really excel at at sad roles.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I've noticed as a kind of like actress go over
over over their careers.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Why would you say another comedian actor that played a serious.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Role, probably Bill Murray. He's probably done a few films
like that.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I can't remember the name of the Top of the
or like Lost in Translations with that too, kind of
a melancholy sadness kind of deal.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
I think Adam Sandler too, Yeah, when he played.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
In and Funny People as well too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So, like many many comedic actors, like they have a
flair for doing any incredibly like not necessarily a dramatic role,
but its cically a sad role, especially if there's like
a deep sadness coming from a lot of comedians, I
feel like, and they kind of just tap into that,
especially for some movie roles that really shines.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So that really impressed him on that front. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So, and Rob Williams is of course, you know, no exception.
If anything, He's the reason I made that kind of
like rule in my head.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Like maybe Michael Keaton. I don't know if he's really considered,
but he has some funny movies too.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
He does have some funny movies too, and he excels
at that and so yeah, but that's just it's just
a general Jim Carrey, would you say, Jim Carrey. Oh yeah,
Jim Carrey for sure. Yeah, Jim Cary for sure. Definitely,
Like he like when he plays a sad role, he
goes sad. Yeah, so yeah, that's just a general role
I have in my head. It may not be accurate,
but that's just what I kind of think of, and
I usually think of rout Wings. I think of that
role like when he plays a sad role, he plays
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a sad role. It could be reflective of like real
life emotional trauma.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Right it's two hour photos.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I will say what I'm thinking right there.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It was just like yeah, yeah, anyways, that's Rob Williams
also and starts in the film Connie Nielsen playing the
role of Nina Yorken. Connie Nielsen is also in such
a lot of great films. Actually, I'm like Gladiator in
two thousand. I'm just recently in Gladiator two in twenty
twenty four, and it's also in the film Nobody in
twenty twenty one with Bob Utenkirk, And it was also
(11:57):
in the One of One Movies One twenty seventeen, and
a few other films like that Jimmy, look are about
to say something? We're you gonna sneeze one the other. No,
I'm just thinking, just thinking. Okay, you're thinking your mouth open.
That's why you're just like I saw your brain working. Well,
it's always barking. I'm just trying to come up with
the next insault for Kyle. No, exactly, always never, never stops.
Next up we have Michael Varton playing the role of
will Yorgan. Michael Varton was also in a few shows
(12:19):
such as Alias in two thousand and one, two thousand
and six, the movie Monster in Law two thousand and five,
and the movie Never Been Kissed in nineteen ninety nine.
Next up, we have Dylan Smith playing Jacob Yorgon. Dylan
Smith has been in this movie and one of the
movie of note, Sickly Passed of the Caribbean, the Curse
of the Black Pearl, where he played young Will in
the opening sea level.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, so that's the same boy, right, there. Yeah, makes
you when I rewatched the opening scene of just be like,
sure that's a that's a kid.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
That's that kid.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So two thousand and three, now he's you know, twenty
two years older. He's until he's my age.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Now that's how sad. Probably he is my age. He's
my age. That's sad.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Thanks Jim, poor kid, poor kid, he's my age. Next
time we have Ara Daniels playing Maya Maya Verson. Aaron
Daniels was also in a few horror movies, so she
was in the film A House one Thousand Corpses in
two thousand and three, Shaky Shivers in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
What a name of a movie.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Shaky Shivers me Timbers Shivers, Timbers, and the The Sitter
in twenty eleven, which is the hard movie in itself.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
But that's just hold it the film. Yep, it's a
bad movie. Get it.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's bad, Okay, I got it. It wasn't fun fun,
I didn't like it. I went to the theater see that,
and I thought like that that's generally, yeah, I did.
I did see The Sitter. It was not a good movie.
And also it was interprobably my age to see them
just putting out there. Next time we have Paul Kim
Junior playing the role of Yoshi. Paul Kim Junior was
(13:46):
also in the film Hullo Josh, Yeah, Luigi. The Name's
taboo now. Paul Kim was also movie such as The
Hulk in two thousand and three, and he was also
in The National Lampoon's Door Day Dorm Days one and
two in two thousand three and two thousand and six,
(14:07):
SPA two thousand and six, respectfully. And he's also in
the film Transomnia in two thousand and eight. Next up
we got Gary Cole playing the role of Bill Owens.
Gary Cole was also touched films such as The Father, Intellivigon,
Nights at the Ballad of Rick of Bobby in two
thousand and six, Office Space ninety nine, and Pineapple Express
in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
You like the office space there, Kyle, Have you seen
office space?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
That's so I straight up, early years of my life,
I've seen office Pace once.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I didn't really care for it. Oh my, I thought
it was okay.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
But for years before I watched both office Space and
the Office I just thought those two things were connected.
I assumed the office space is just the movie version
of the Office, and I just assumed.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That, oh, because I was dumb.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
He still am and uh so I just assumed for years, like, oh, yeah,
that's the Office series or whatever it is where people's
are a fan of that show, The Office, I guess.
And then I washed them both eventually, and then I
was like, oh, okay, they're different things.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Okay, we're gonna have to cover the office space on.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
This podcast someday sometime.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Get around to me and I'll say it, and I'll
say like, eh, and I'll shrug my shoulders again, be
like it was a lately.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
That's really good. I didn't really understand it when I
was nine years old.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I appreciate it as are. Yeah, especially since you're in
the workforce exactly. Yeah, yeah, you understand the to come
in tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
The next day.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Next up here, we.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Actually don't have much of a castlest here. Not it's
a good cast list, good cast, but I mean it's
not a long cast list. I mean, next up we
have David Morland playing mister Siskin. David Morland was also
in the film Dounny Dark Coat in two thousand and one.
Then we have Sean p. O'Hagan playing the role of
young father. Then we have Jim Rash playing the amateur
porn guy. Jim Rash is also in the film The
(15:52):
Way Way Back in twenty and thirteen. Then we have
Nick Sercy playing the role of repair man. Nick Sercy
was also in the film The Old Way in twenty
twenty three. And then we have Dave Efcher Edge edge
Fer playing the save Mark clerk. Dave Escher was also
in the film Race to Which Mountain two and nine.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Then we have Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Sherbert Schubert Schubert, not Sherbert Schubert, playing the role of
soccer coach. Jimmy Schubert was also in the film The
Italian Job in two thousand and three. And then we
have Eric la Salpe. We don't pronounce that name right
because he's a great actor. Eric Lasall playing the role
of detective James Vandersey. Eric was also in the show
Er from nine ennety four two and nine. He's also
in the film Coming to America Nickte eighty eight and
(16:32):
Drop Squad in nine ninety four. And then we have
Clark Legg playing the role of Detective Paul Outerberg. Clark
Ridge probably best known his role as I can't remember
that actually the name of the role agent oh what
was his name? He was in the Avengers movies. He
was the agent who contacted all the Avengers in the
Avengers line up, Clark gig was. He also the show
of Agents of Agents of Shield for like, I don't
(16:55):
want to say the film. That show ran for like
seven nine season and something like that. So you know,
big actor in that round in a small world in
this film. So he's in Inventors.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Anyways.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That concludes the cast list of One Hour Photo. Moving
on to some awards real quick. We have a few
nominations and I believe a few wins. Actually, we have
a nominations from the two thousand and three Academy of
Science Fiction Fancy Hartform's Awards, where we have a nomination
for Best Supporting Actress to Connie Nielsen, Best Writing to
Mark Romanik, Best Music to Johnny Klemock and Reynald Hall,
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Best Action Adventures Slash Thriller Film, and a win for
Best Actor to Roaldin Williams.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Then for the two thousand and three Art Directors Guil
we have.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
A nomination for the Excellent and Production Design Award and
Contemporary Film to Tom Fildom with the production ner and
Michael Manson the art writer. Then for the two thousand
and three Critics Choice Awards, the movie came in second
place for Critics Choice Awards for Best Actor to Robin Williams.
Then for the two thousand and three Dallas Fort Worth
Film Critic Association Awards, we have a nomination for the
for Best Actor to Rob Williams. Then for the twousand
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three Danish Film Awards, we have a nomination for Best
American Film to Mark Romanick. Then for the Fangoria chainsaw Awards,
we have a win for Best Actor to Williams and
third place Supporting Actress to Connie Nielsen.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah yeah, excuse me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Then for the two thousand and three Festival National d
Doping Well she nel Ombro Awards, we have a nomination
for Best Male Voice to Carla Varley for the dubbing
of Rob Williams. Then for the two thusand three International
Horror Guild we have a movie nomination for Best Movie.
And then for the two thousand and three Online Film
and Televison Association, we have a nomination for the Best
Actor the Robin Williams and Best breakthrough Filmmaker to Mark Romanack.
(18:33):
This is actually his first film overall very good, Yeah,
very ill. I believe only had one of the film
on going. Actually, I need to check that out and
make sure I get it right. And then for the
two thousand and three Satellite Awards, we have the nomination
for Best Film and Anything of Jeffrey Ford and Best
Actor in a Motion Bachard Rob Williams. Then for the
two thousand and three Young Arts Awards, we have a
nomination for her Best Formance and a Feature Film Supporting
Young Actor to Dylan Smith. And then for the two
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thousand and two Golden Schmoe's Ward we have a two
thousand we have a second place win for Best Actor
of the Robin Williams. Not the Schmo, the Golden Shmemo.
He's the Golden Schmoe, not a shmo. He had golden
a good Schmo. It's good schmo, good schmo. I'm I'm
saying it with Jack Gushmo. In two thousand and two
Las Vegas Film Critic Association Society Awards, we have a
nomination for Best Actor to Rob Williams. In two thousand
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and two we have the Lil Carno film Festival Awards,
we have a nomination for a Golden Leopard Award for
the Mark to Mark Romanek. And then finally for the
two thousand and two Sundance Film Festival, we have a
nomination for Grand Jerry Prize for a Dramatical Movie to
Mark Romaneck. Technical details of the film ninety six minutes long.
Sound mix is and dobe of stereo surround sound. This
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is a color film. Aspect ratio is one point three
seven by one for the in camera scenes and one
point fifty for the photo scenes and one point eight
five for the most movie.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And I believe that covers the technical details of the film.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
This film was filmed in California, and that includes most
of the other details, right for so now we move
on to some trivia and our thoughts on the movie.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Jimbo take away from.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Me, all right, Kyle, Once again, there's not a lot
of trivia for this film. One thing I want to
point out is if you did not know that this
was Robin Williams at the beginning of the film until
he spoke, you would recognize him. But he changes his
appearance in this film, dies his hair blonde, right, and
so do you remember the first time. It might be
(20:20):
the only other time that he had his hair blonde.
You remember what movie?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Oh another movie? We got a film Bond or did
you missus doutfire at that point? Nope? Oh the other
film Popeye? Oh, Popeye?
Speaker 8 (20:31):
This tailor Man, sailor Man. So I thought that was
very interesting. But as the film premiered at the Sundance
Film Festival, Robin Williams overheard viewers saying that they forgot
it was Robin Williams in the lead role for fifteen
minutes into the film. Yeah, And it is an observation
that obviously made Robin Williams proud. So he was like,
I did my job. They didn't really think it was me,
(20:52):
or they forgot it was me, So that just takes it.
He was very proud of the fact that his acting
skills overcomes his appearance.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Believe.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, yeah, I would say like for the word to say,
like he sunk into this role really, really, really well,
Like he portrayed the character who is just this incredibly
sad and lonely person incredibly well just eerie, well to
the point where you like you can't like you can't
help it feel like this is there some reflection of
the real Bob Williams in this role of like the
kind of sadness and loneliness, So you can, I just
(21:22):
felt in real life some degree, just because it's just
it is so eerie feeling. It's so real feeling, it's
disturbing almost well.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
In preparation for his role, Rob Williams train for two
and a half days at a photo developing training facility
in southern California on a AGFA MSc one hundred and
one dash D photo developing machine. So I got some
real experience there developing film. It sounds like cool. And
something else that's really creepy in this movie that we
(21:49):
haven't touched on yet is he has this wall of
photos of this family. There's probably like three hundred and
eighty six photos at least on that wall. Yeah, I
mean it was massive.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I weren't kind of production they had to do get
just to create all the photos that they did, though,
just because like imagine having the film that whole family
and just like how we get that many photos of
them having alternative vacations and other kind of life stuff
going on there. It must have taken a long time
to actually produced that whole wall in general could have
could have been digitally altered too coldentioning alter two, and
also like we only see probably like a dozen or
so photos act.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
They're kind of far rest, far away, so it could
have just been people's cast and family.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Members, generic photo of comment. Yeah, generic kind of stock photos.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Well, I know that, you remember where that old lady
comes in. She's like, I'm like two copies please, And
he's like, oh, she has his cat. He's like, I've
never seen another person. It's always these cats and it's
just cats, cats, cats, cats cats. Well, the cats were
all cast members cats. They figured it would be easier
to get the cast members make them look natural, you
(22:45):
know what I mean, than just some random cats. So
I thought that was pretty cool. During the scene in
which side discusses, oh, this is the one about the cats,
another ending the photos of nothing better cats, the photos
of each cat were photos of the cast and crew
had brought in their own pets. According to the American
Humane Society, it was seen as a way to get
more natural looking catfolds instead of staging shows with trained animals.
(23:06):
So my memory serves me correct.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Oh nice, that's really cool you had in your head.
And also you have to snopped right there.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
So near the beginning of the movie, as the Yorkan
family is going over their set of developed phots, you
remember they're sitting on the couch at their house. They're
eating Chinese food. On the table, there is a open
fortune cookie. There is a fortune laying there and I
don't know if you call it what it said. Kyle
oh Cool said, well, someone wants you to be happy. Oh,
(23:33):
and it was director Mark Romanak. He searched through thirty
fortune cookies before he found one that related to the
film and used it in the scene. It's fantastic if
you think about that even further, when it's the photo
developer guy that wants his wife to be happy and
their son to be happy, it just puts a.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Whole another great factor in the session with him.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Yeah right, wow, I mean you think about this. Robin
Williams was so obsessed with this family and development film.
He knew where they lived, he knew their house. They
basically wanted to be known as his uncle.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Sigh.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
He's buying toys for the kid he's going to like
his baseball practice or a baseball, football, soccer soccer who
after buys a book that he sees in the Ladies Handbager.
She's getting developed, starts reading a little bit. It's familiar
with the author, so he can have a conversation with
her at the mall Over lunch. It's just the depths
that he went to in credibly character exactly So. Robin
(24:25):
Williams was a fan of the Japanese anime series Neon
Genesis Evangelion.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Thank you, I knew you would know.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
I specifically asked to have a model from the series
incorporated as part of the film. The model is self,
contrary to Jake's explanation that is of a good guy,
is of an unintelligent creature like antagonist from the adult
oriented film ending the series, Neon Genesis Evangelion. The End
of Evangelion from nineteen ninety seven. The box toy was
supposedly from Robin Williamson's own private collection.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, I've heard rumors about that, but I'm not actually
sure that's actually a true fact. I've had I've heard
different kind of things because simficly like it's more like
a representation of the film itself, And I believe the
actual prop studios chose that toy specifically because they had
a large blade, which kind of the blade that he
steals later in the film. And also the red eyes
which kind of vimits his his dream sequence there where
his bloody eyes.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
That's crazy too.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
That's there's a lot of great cinematography scenes in this.
They're like the one where he goes to like the
house that he he's runnering around the house. Oh, Jake,
you gotta clean up your room, and then he goes
and poops and he's, oh, you know for me.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
The scene where he's watching football, Yeah, and he goes
it's on the couch and watches football.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
The family comes on there. Oh hi uncle, They're like
what I was like, Yeah, what is happening here? Fantasy?
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Yeah, he just said he get this car thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Really great m m.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
But Robert Williams often played practical jokes in the middle
of a take during the making of a film. So,
according to producer Christine Vashan, Williams burst out of a
doorway completely nude during one take for a chase scene.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I'm ready catch me.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
If you can develop this, you got your white angle
lins on.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I could just see him doing stupid stuff. So only imagine.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Robin Williams was usually cast as the save Mart manager
Bill Owens, who later played was played by Gary Cole,
but after reading the screenplayed for a second time, Williams
requested the role of Seymour Parrish. So was Robin williams
request that he plays the bad guy interesting. Robin Williams
had to shave most of his arms, upper chest and
hands for this movie because of his extremely hairy body.
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I feel you, Robin, I'm barely hairy too. Between takes,
Robert Williams would improvised do committee takes on the scenes
as if one hour photo was a comedy.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I want that over to cut so bad? Can you imagine?
Oh my gosh, that would I would die.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Oh man, that feels like the like the best possible,
like so completely out of tone and just completely the
wrong way to do this movie, but also kind of
would love to see it.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Oh man, I wish I could see those takes.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Oh, I guess see if I can find him online somewhere.
I find them on line, whant to share them on Facebook.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Trent Reznor of nine inch Nels was initially chosen by
Mary I'm sorry Mark Roman to provide the musical score
for this film. Rominecke Calver opted not to use the
score of Resnor provided some of the composition meant to
be used in this film, where we worked and released
of the album Still by nine Inch nells.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That okay, yeah, I probably wouldn't ask Trent Reznor to
preached this film. Once again we see like just because
he's good doesn't mean he's right.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Once again we see Robin Williams and Jack Nicholson vying
for a part because Jack Nicholson was originally offered the
role of Seymour Perish but he turned it down. Wow,
I mean we just talked about that in our anniversary
episode about the Joker. Yeah, Robi was accepted, but then, oh,
I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Something you see though, Still like what a completely different
film too, because I couldn't imagine Jack Nielson playing off
the kind of physicality that Robin william plays off in
this film.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Especially yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
When finding out what room will is and at the
hotel s, I ask if he's in two seventeen. Two
seventeen is famously the hotel room for Stephen King's novel
The Shining It's two thirty seven. In the film, Robin
Williams was considered for the lead role in The Shining
But guess who was the lead role.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
In Shack Jack Nichelson. So here we go.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
They've all been They've been tied together for years in Hollywood,
and that just goes to a testament of how great
of actors they were.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
Robin Williams characters has the same last name in this
movie as his character in Jumanji in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Last name, lastame, last name, Oh Parish. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
The number twenty three appears frequently throughout this movie. Catch
twenty three is the production company name. Robin Williams later
stars and a futuristic thriller entitled The Final Cut in
two thousand and four.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
College. Have you ever seen The Final Cut? I've never
seen the Mantle Cut.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Well, it's He plays a similar role to his role
in One Hour Photo. In the film, Robin Williams stars
as a man whose job is to edit the removed
memory implants of deceased individuals and make them into tribute
movies at their funerals. Oh my gosh, but his life
is soon in danger when he edits them men of
(29:00):
a deceased wealthy man discovers he was sexually abusing his
daughter and gets targeted by an activist. It sounds very interesting.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
That's that's quite a cell. Oh my gosh, another sad
movie probably was there. That's must discover that. That just
sounds Yeah, it's not interesting. I'll I had to listen before.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
We talked about that already. This is the second time
or the second draw in two thousand and two where
Robert Williams played villain. The first one was Insomnia, So
they both hear out the same year, and that's hard
to believe.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, freat incredible.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Definitely like the year where Rob Williams went kind of
out there for his kind of roles, kind of like
broke type, right, be like, hey, I can do all
kinds of movies.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I can't. I don't have to do just comedy movies.
So Kyle overall thoughts in this film, let me know,
let me know, No, you let me know. Not let
yourself know.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Jim, I'm want to tell you, I think this movie
is fantastic. It's really awesome. It is strange, eerie and
frightening and just absolutely a joy to watch. I think
the movie actually holds up better today than it did
when You Win it came out. I think this movie
only gets better with time, actually just because the you know,
it's amazing. This film came out before the rise of
social media and like sharing, everyone sharing their own photos
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and life experiences all the time, NonStop, and the idea
of someone watching you and developing an unhealthy obsession over
you is so frightening and captivating for normal.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Domesticity and kind of lifestyles. The that it's it's incredibly intriguing.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
You know, there's you know, like you know, there's a
there's a frightening you know thought of like how many
people in the world are just like side Perish, you know,
people who don't commit violent acts necessarily or do something
like to too bawful, but clearly have those levels of
obsession with someone else to the point where they have,
you know, like an encyclopedic knowledge of someone who they
don't even that they don't even know them the other
(30:40):
way around.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
It is very interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Like, only it's probably only gotten worse today than it
was back in two thousand and four, when back in
two thousand and two when this film came out, So.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
It really is something else the most part right there.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
This film is just exceptional in that way too, And
also like at the same time, it's it's it's time too,
because like this is about developing film, the helping photos,
you know, something that is no longer done at all
thing because now everything's digital, everything is.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
I mean you can but you just basically upload them
to your yeah yeah, everyone else Walgreens app and go
to Walgreens and get them.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You can get them that way now, you know. But
still that's just like that's just a regular printer doing
a regular job too. Like it's not like the same
time like having things, you know, kind of like in
a in a like having things treated in the right
way to have them actually render out properly and all
kind of stuff too.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
So it's it's still it's it's much different.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Now than it was back then, so which you really
didn't have interesting as a period piece as well. So
this is a film that I think holds up incredibly well.
Still a very mature movie tho. I wouldn't recommend a
kid watching them here, especially for that one bloody out
of Isen, especially that kind of comes out of nowhere
coming as a sucker punch. Really like if you don't
know it's coming, then oh boy, that is a that
is an out of left field kind of scene there
(31:46):
really holds up well. Uh, but yeah, I think it
was very interesting choices being made to simply, I think
it was interesting having the choice for him not to
actually commit to nat of violence that well that will
not an active, true physical harm to like murder someone
or actually try and hurt them in a way that
would do permanent, lasting damage to like the only act
that he does is when he opens the girl on
(32:08):
he opens the door on my Apparasi's character, on my
Apparis's character and like, you know, buster bust her forehead
and right there kind of but outside of that, it's
just like it's the threat of violence or like kind
of like that or like, you know, a threatening attitude
that is his real crime. And I think that was
very interesting for him to kind of play that kind
of role where like he doesn't he's not interested in
truly killing someone. He's just interested in shaming them and
(32:28):
getting them to see the truth in his life, in
his in his own kind of sick, morbid way. It's
very interesting to have his character motivations be played out
that way, and also the kind of reveal at the
end of while the implication of what abuse he must
have suffered in his own childhood and why he does
when he does is you know, it doesn't excuse his
behavior behavior, but it does make a degree of sense
(32:50):
where you understand how a person like that would come
to the conclusion that he does for that family, and
how is uh and how his his his situation as
it was left untreated, could have led to those kind
of those kind of obsessions that he has.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
So very interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
They're from a mental health perspective and also from a
realism perspective, how this kind of goes down it, you know,
once again adds to that feeling of just plausibility of
like there are so many people out there in the world,
they were just like cy Parish that need that frankly
need to be treated cautiously, but also need to be
treated to recover and hopefully be better people than they
are now. So incredible film that way. If I had
(33:27):
to get a radiance, and I give it a strong eight,
maybe even a nine, I think this film holds up
in critly well and I highly recommend it.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
It's a great film. Jimbo, where do you kind of feeling.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
This shle I think we're both right on point. I
love to see when an actor goes outside of his
comfort role something that he's known to do, and do
something completely out of left field, something you did not expect. Now,
this goes to show how much you appreciate Robins Williams
as an actor and the legacy that he lived to
go from a comedy standpoint to a more serious drama
(33:56):
like Patch Adams, and then to the villainous role like this,
I think something that he should be remembered for as well. Also,
since his films came out, let's talk about the mental
issues that have been discovered and treated for society, because
(34:16):
back then it wasn't really talked about. Today you hear
about it all the time about mental illness.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
And I think by him doing this, it opened my
eyes to more of his career and I really enjoyed
this movie. I mean, he's outstanding in this movie. He
when he's doing those flashback scenes where he's with the
family or he's thinking he's with the family. And then
at the end, you know, at the beginning of the movie,
(34:44):
they pull him into a room and they're like, well,
you know what's on these pictures? Right, He's like, well yeah, yeah.
They're like, why'd you do it. And he sets there
for a good thirty seconds probably, and you just see
it in his eyes, Like, I mean that right there
made the movie for me. I mean, just to see
his expression right then and there. I was like, this
(35:04):
is gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, And then to.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Come to find out, you know, he see, he knows
that this family, the guy is cheating on his wife,
doesn't really take care of his kid, you know. He
tells him. He's like, look, you've got a good family.
You have everything that most men would want. And then
when he finds out that he is cheating because the
other lady had the development of her photo and he's
going through there and he sees the lady's husband besides
(35:28):
to take action, and once he do, he goes to
the hotel. He acts like he's the person ordering the
food exactly, and he goes up there, busting the door
and he makes them act like they're performing let's just
say sexual favors, but he doesn't. He's like, no, you
can't touch it. You're not really doing this. This is
(35:49):
just pretend. And he's got the camera and he's taken.
They think he's taking pictures of them. I'm thinking he's
taking pictures of them to turn into his wife. But
come to find out at the end, he's like, you know,
he's at the police stable and he's like, you know,
can I see my pictures? And they give him the pictures.
He opens up the picture, he's looking at me and
he starts slaying them out on the table. And what
it is is a picture of the shower head, a
(36:11):
picture of the corner of the couch, a picture of
the the edd of the bed. He doesn't take any
pictures of any of the of the two people that
were in there. But by what but him doing that,
he ruined the guy's life. Yeah, because now they've called
the wife, they say, hey, where's he at? This is
gonna be a problem, And you know, the lady knows.
She's like, he's like, look, I know, I know he's
(36:32):
sleeping with her. Just I need to get hold of
him now.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
And I think.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
I think Robin Williams was actually trying to be the
good guy in this movie by pointing out an error,
but I think he went about it the whole wrong way.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Oh, absolutely, the whole wrong way, absolutely, like like this
is not the way to do anything like this at all.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
This is none of your businesses most fart.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
But yeah, this was definitely you know, side Parrish's way
of like forcing the truth to become undeniable so that
they could reclaim that they could you know, form the
actual family unit that he that he wanted in his
own fantasy, right, you know, he wants the perfect family
for them to be.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
He wants them.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
He just wanted to be part of the family.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And the moment that he realizes that the father in
particular is failing to meet his role in that scenario,
it completely breaks him.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
It shatters him to pieces.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
And the cinematography where he's sitting on break and he's
looking at that picture of them at the Christmas tree
and the lights start moving and then the picture fades
over it it's him.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Holding like up a slash slatter. YEA loved it. It's great.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
This is a great movie. I'm gonna give it a
nine out of a ten, just because it's something different,
it's something fresh, it was something new, something that hadn't
been done.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, and also just oh my gosh, like the India
itself too, like where like it's clear that everything in
his life is kind of going like he's gonna go
to jail, for this and all kind of stuff too,
and then you slowly see him kind of like retreating
into the fantasy where it's closed on a picture of
them altogether, right, and kind of as a family, as
a family altogether, And it's clear that he's just retreating
in this fantasy again because he can't possibly acknowledge the
reality of what it's actually happened.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Right. And it's a fantastic film. If you haven't seen this,
it's so good. It's so good. I mean, he's following her.
He sneaks in a picture of the kid.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
The kid just came back from this trip because it
gave him a disposable camera, and he sneaks in one
of the pictures of the guy with cheating on his
wife to his son's film packet.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
It's amazing. Yeah, So.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
I think that's great. If you'd like to follow us,
we are my rating, yeah, I said a nine out
of a ten. So if you haven't seen this, definitely
check it out. So if you want to follow us,
we are the Tragedy of Cinema podcast on Facebook. You
can reach out to us at the Tragedy of Cinema
at gmail dot com. And we have a lot of
fun doing this, so yeah, especially breakfast beforehand right now. Actually, well,
(38:43):
with that being said, I think this episode's coming to
a close, and that's wrap and cut.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
The Tragedy Cinema Whimen Mari Shimmer join us as we
choped the tales we love the most. Try he upset them,
then Marry Shimmer Joy.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
And us as we toast to the tales we love
the most.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Most, We love the most, the Tragedy of Simon and
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Mary Shimmer Joy.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
As if we toast through the tails we love the most.
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Through the tails we I love them most.
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