UFL EXPANSION, SHOWCASES & MORE | UFL Podcast #92

The United Football League (UFL) announced their long-term plans to expand into new markets, and The UFL Podcast is back to talk all about it!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Speculation is one step closer to reality as the UFL
is now looking to expand officially, plus showcases in Switzerland
and pfn's Best of is coming up very soon. All
this is much more in a long overdue UFL podcast
and it starts right now.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Long till three.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome back everybody to the UFL podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I am Zach Kyleminsen and hosting duties double time. This
week we're on ATU, both me and my co host
on the other side, the Rev himself sitting in. It
has been a good and I double check this. The
other was late September. We have been on in a minute.
But there's a lot to talk about, mister ray Chuck

(01:08):
that we have on the docket. Yes, you know, I
sway back and forth into reality and persona. You know
how this is. But there's a lot to talk about
that's kind of come up. Makes it a very busy week,
very busy Thanksgiving week. By the way that the UFL said,
you know what, who cares about the games coming up?

(01:28):
At the end of who cares about the turkey and
the stuffing or the ham or whatever you have? We
got future moves to discuss. We got to thoughts about
what's ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
You know, I'll tell you, Zach, and we'll dive into
this a little bit labor. I love the fact that
the UFL is kind of continuing a tradition of dropping
spring football news on Thanksgiving Week. I don't know for
the old heads out there, the spring football crazies, as
our boys seth Lessons would say, if you remember way
back when the lead up to the XFL twenty twenty,

(01:59):
that's when we got the XFL footballs or the turkey ball,
and exactly the packaging and the whole thing around it.
So I'm glad to see that tradition continue, just like
I'm very sad to see that. I'm happy to see
that tradition continue, just like I'm very happy that it
is Thanksgiving week. It is the day that this drops.

(02:21):
It is Thanksgiving. I hope you are all ready to
get your food on. I'm ready to get my food on.
We're going to talk about that a little bit later.
And I'm just happy to be back Episode ninety two,
and this one I'm dedicating it to my boy Stevt
because him and I, I'm telling you, we go way back.
Some online they think, oh my god, this Stevit guy

(02:42):
hates the ref No, no, no, no, you got it
all wrong, you got it all twisted. We're boys and
we're gonna one of these days next time. I'm in Birmingham,
and I was actually before we get into it, I
was talking to my wife about doing a road trip
to maybe DC if the championship's there, and if we
go to DC, maybe stop through Birmingham because there's so

(03:03):
many things I want to show her. I actually I
don't know where. Can you point me to the Birmingham hate.
That's the one part of the Stevt thing that this
is while I'm like, no, no, no, he's just throwing
bants online. Otherwise, and maybe I'm wrong. Otherwise he would
clip me. There would be a clip out there of
me saying something, and I'm not gonna speculate on what

(03:24):
it would be because I don't want that to be
clipped and used as the evidence. Anyway, I want to
take her through Birmingham. I want to probably stay there
the night. I love Birmingham. I would actually move to Birmingham.
I had no joke. I actually do enjoy it there anyway.
Dedicated to Stevie T. Episode ninety two. Get Live signed
up Thanksgiving week. I'm thankful for a lot of things,

(03:44):
but one of them is Stevet in Birmingham.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I'm very thankful for both of those items. I'm also
very thankful that we have a lot more commitment. It
sounds like at the league level that you know, it's
funny there are rumblings from various other site sites. Mike
Mitchell overs I was talking about how, you know, do
fellows like a do or die year? And I don't

(04:09):
know about you. We discussed this on ATU by the way, which,
by the way, if you haven't checked that out, recommend
you do before this show. Just because we're gonna do
basically some callback. We're gonna have extra context to this
as well. You know that you know, kind of felt
like they were saying do or die, prove it year.
Now you're hearing all of a sudden expansion, twenty twenty
seven even being like something that people were talking about.

(04:31):
You know, the League was talking more twenty twenty six
in their pr but people talking about twenty twenty seven.
Then it's supposedly to have inside track knowledge or rumors
being fed their way. WHOA Okay, amazing what three months
does for you? No, you know, we don't get all
the details, but clearly stuff is going on. It feels
like behind the scenes that maybe things have changed that

(04:53):
narrative very quickly. As our Nick Thorn brought up or
just earlier this week.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah, I mean the biggest thing that I get out
of it, and I talked about this a little bit
on a tu but what I like and what I
think is going to benefit the league probably the most,
is it gives a little bit of legitimacy to the league,
right and for the people that are worried that this
is going to be you know, a couple and done
right or worried that you know, like the USFL and

(05:22):
the XFL. You know, they had a couple of seasons,
but people could argue that they were forced to merge,
But what if there was no one else to merge with?
Right right? This to me it shows that they're at
least exploring and looking past just the season that's in
front of them. I mean, you know, that's the nature
of the game when it comes to the Internet is

(05:44):
to think about the worst, right, That's what's always going
to get you the clicks. I'm not going to speculate
on if that's the reason anybody does what they do.
I don't think it's what we do. I'm pretty positive
about things. And maybe that's why people don't like me
on the internet is I don't give them the mean
things they want. As much as I would love to.
You don't get it wrong. I would love to be
that guy. I just I don't know this. This isn't

(06:06):
the place for it. Maybe one day. I've talked about exact,
the Boys Club, the Boys Club. I'm one of these
days we're gonna have that podcast. And anyway, we're getting
off track. To me, this gives the legitimacy factor. It does.
It does stray away from is this a make or break?

(06:27):
Whether it is a make or break or not. I mean,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna shy away from the
fact that this could be a make or break season.
Things don't go the way they need to and these
plans never come to fruition. But if you're if you're
playing the long game, you do need to have these plans.
I will point back to with the usfl uh, you know,

(06:49):
when we were doing even Springstock one, Springstock two, getting
to know some of the people within the league at Fox.
I remember plans for CEA in three, season five, season
ten of the USFL. You could argue that last year
was season three of the USFL, but was it really
or was it season one of the UFL? And so yeah,

(07:11):
they're talking about season three, season five, season ten of
the UFL. Doesn't necessarily mean that we'll see it. But
here I go, I play both sides of the fence, Ac,
I don't know what to tell you to me. I
do see this as a positive thing. I think that realistically,
when you're going from sixteen to eight teams, if you're

(07:34):
not talking about expansion, then I don't know that probably
leaves a bad taste in some of the fans. Mouse
now I will I'm curious ac of the mix if
they expand we talked about this a little bit, we
didn't really go into depth. Do you think we will
see return of teams in their locations? We might see

(07:57):
the team names, like if we saw the Mallers. Do
you think they'll be in Pittsburgh or do you think
they'll be in Ohio or a completely different team?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well, tough to say. I will tell you. I think
if you're going to look at both the former structures
of the two leagues, you know, and we did talk
a little bit about certain contracts and whatnot that both
of them had. You know, XFL did supposedly put in
some extra money in for future years at certain stadiums,

(08:27):
and some they had to walk away from a put
on pause potentially when they did a merger, you know,
which is why you're seeing And I'm just going to
dive right in this. Seattle's arguably one of, if not
the most talked right now market that people are saying,
you gotta go back, you gotta go back, you gotta
go back. And I'm like, yeah, I think personally, just
if I'm basing it on what data do I have?

(08:49):
And I think this is going to be the first
thing I'm going if I'm starting this process. Now, let's go,
Let's go back to the data we have on markets
we have currently done post pandemic or disease not being name,
whatever you want to call it, because it's hard, you
can't really, I feel like, use the same data. It's
this is near five years old now. Sports markets have
changed in certain venues again, and talk about Seattle, They're

(09:11):
gonna they have a hockey team now that didn't exist
prior and within the next several years they're going to
have it sounds like the Super Sykes back. It's more
of a win, not if so. You know, that's just
an example though, but Seattle one thing that was brought in.
You got ticket sales, you had better crowds. You know,
you can have that argument that people have talked to
us in the past, where you know, in twenty twenty

(09:32):
three they got scheduled for a crazy ton of late
night games on the East Coast and that hurts the
viewership and some of the people coming out there. So
you know, it's had a history. I think history is
going to be big history, the relationships you currently have
and where you feel like you are selling and spending
your best dollar to begin this outright, and Seattle seems

(09:55):
like that's the case.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
I still put.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
In a bit of a warning that, you know, so
if you're gonna do expansion, you're gonna do two teams,
You're gonna do an even amount of number. And I
said too, because I feel like four is a stretch
for one year. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe there's something else
in the pipeline that allows for four in a season,
but the realistic one would be two more to make
it to ten and double digits because you want to

(10:19):
expand evenly odd numbers. It's weird scheduling. You see it
in the CFL. They gotta do weird bye weeks every year.
I've seen it in indoor arena leagues when teams go
out or they have to start with odd number. It's weird.
You have to really kind of mess with the schedule
a lot and make it just fit. But it's an
ugly fit, so it's not easy to kind of put
things together. You want even stuff and better for divisions too.

(10:41):
You want even divisions, even everything. It's gonna be two.
I really want them if they do West Coast, if
they go to Seattle. And we said this in the show,
I'm going to say it again for the fact that
logistics do matter. And this isn't just me spouting this
is also people in the industry that have said on
other shows and other various platforms now in the last
few years that logistics and travel costs are a bane

(11:04):
to teams existence in any level that's not the NFL
or even the CFL. You can argue with some of that,
it's a little bit more stability. You gotta consider it
you know, I really think that if you go one
west coast, you do two of them. I really do I.
Or if you can't get both, you lean and you
look at what you got east of the Mississippi, or
what I think is a better thing, compromise. I've heard

(11:26):
tons of people talk about and I know I'm saying
along with an answer, and I'll give you some time
to talk. Here's a lot to chew on. But I've
seen a lot of people I agree with. What about
Oklahoma City Denver? I've heard a lot of people say,
maybe is a chance. You know, these are markets that
move the needle westward. There's somewhat bigger television markets to
be in Denver especially, it's the top fifteen media market

(11:47):
and in the past has shown it has extra interest
in that spring scene. Maybe that's where it's at. You know,
it doesn't hurt maybe not say we'll commit to a
whole coastal side of the US. Maybe just add a
little bit of an incremental make it where you can
kind of balance that. Denver is also like an airport
hub that helps a ton if you're gonna do that,
where you can start kind of finding places to kind

(12:09):
of drop ship and then move forward in the year's future.
That's what I'm more for. The more I've heard that
in last like day or so since we're recording this show, uh,
the more I'm kind of like, yeah, maybe these are options. Okay,
see he's been sitting there and it has a history.
It just kind of comes down to finding again, those
relationships is the big.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Well, the relationships is the big one. And that's what
you know I'm hoping to see out of this is
you know, as new markets are chosen, we see key
figures arise out of those markets that, whether they're interested
in ownership or not, have some some key factor and

(12:50):
wanting that team to be successful, whether it's a sponsorship,
whether it's they own the arena, whether it's you know,
there's a lot of different reasons that somebody might want
that team to survive other than having a stake in ownership.
And you know, when we talk about like Denver versus
Oklahoma City, you know that it will be interesting to

(13:13):
see what teams come out of this because I think
it'll be telling on what the direction of the league
is going to look like going forward. Are we going
to see a continued push into NFL markets are we
going to see maybe expand outside of are we going

(13:33):
to see a mix? And so maybe we do see
a mix, So I could see maybe something like a
Seattle and in Oklahoma City. Now, one of the things
that we talked about prior to the show I meant
to talk about it on Monday's show was and people.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Are gonna hate this sec Oh boy, here we go.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Let's hear what if do you think that the UFL
might explore expanding via a hub scenario? So maybe it's
an expanded city, so we see like a Seattle coming
to play. You had mentioned there's potentially an open contract
where you know they're they're owed a season. Anyway, maybe

(14:19):
with some slight adjustment, you could add a couple of
games and now you have a Seattle and an LA team,
which I don't know how well well that would play
out there, but either way you would get have potentially
two teams or a few, and maybe even use it
as a West Coast hub. I don't know. That might

(14:41):
get a little sticky. It feels like Arlington's probably better
suited for that, but not anyway, I.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Think you're leading into Look, we talked a little bit
off air before we jumped on like, Okay, we were processing, Like, look,
we talked a lot on around the UFL what what
what is something we missed that maybe we didn't talk
as much. And that's kind of leading into what I
think is a bigger conversation moving into expansion, is can

(15:07):
you really house twelve full fifty three man rosters in
one city? Like I just feel like that's very a
very challenging logistical nightmare to where you're I think if
you're not going to be able to, like say, an
investor is not the one that's coming for expansion or
like they are there, it's more cities coming and going, hey,

(15:30):
you know, we'll give you all these venues and make
it really easy on cost. You can move here, keep
talking to partners and all that. I don't know if
that's really what is all being implied, but it was
very leaning on communities and the PR So I'm going
with that as the language, and I'm reading what a
public relations officer is trying to put on paper. That's
what I'm trying to read between the lines here. So

(15:51):
if it's not getting that instant funding from someone outside
of your league office, you know, aren't you going to
have to find a second hub, like unless you find
just tons more how I mean Dallas. The Dallas metro
in Arlington is huge, you and I know this from
going out to the open. I learned that last year,
like going, oh my goodness, like just eye poppingly big metro.

(16:13):
But I mean that just feels like a lot, like
you are trying to lean on a lot of resources
at that point for one city. You know, I really
I think you're going to see it in the next
two years. If they get to twelve, I think they
split six six and they move one to a hub
that gives them a favorable deal, like Arlington, Texas did
with Choctaw. It's gonna be a come down to a deal,

(16:33):
though it's always been a deal.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
You'd almost hope to especially it might it might mitigate
some of what we even heard, you know a j mcchaerrn.
You know, he had made the rounds doing.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Some podcasts at field Day with.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
That he had talked about it, you know, the plane rides,
which we had all heard about a little bit and
speculated about. But yeah, you know, the banter is there,
The banter is real. With a second hub, you might
cut some of that out, depending on which you at
least might get paired with a different team that you
didn't play. But you know, I don't know. There's I agree.

(17:11):
I feel like it's gonna get tougher and tougher to
house all of these teams in one location, or it's
gonna be tougher to make your commitments to the community
when they're all living out of Arlington, right, Like, are
they only there for the community when they need to
do a fan engagement event? And by the way, we're
gonna stop with the Boys and Girls Club on the

(17:33):
way there, and then we're gonna head back to the Arlington,
Texas you know, which that's There's nothing bad but that
either I want to play. I'm not pooh poohing on that.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I think, I think to add credence to this point,
I am going to go on the out on a
limni and I will say I believe the leg Gornt's
lesson about community engagement. Last year, A few of us
in credible the merger pushed this. A few of us,
myself included, were worried when you went with the merger
and set up they had, you're removing that, you know,
face to face fan to team kind of connection unless

(18:05):
it's bigger markets, you know. And a lot of fans
said that same thing throughout the last season, especially USFL
fans that were used to seeing their guys, their Birmingham
fans in particular, you know, credit they had a hub there,
so I get it, but like they really miss seeing
those guys on a regular basis. The team thought the
same thing, you know, and these are other teams too,
But one thing I think they did well to do,

(18:27):
you know. And this is someone that coming from the
Michigan fan of myself and taught me and Jake here
talking about how it felt like there was nothing going on.
They've been getting a lot of in market personnel now,
at least executives that are in market to where I
think that's how you bridge the gap. Is Okay, you
have this on the ground team. It's big enough to

(18:50):
be a promo team that focuses on the ticket sales
and kind of the needs of partners in ground. However,
we still keep the benefits for the hub at the
time being, you know, some of the something we talk
insurance costs or housing costs and whatever makes it easier
for the league to give players the best place to
stay while also flying them out and doing this whole

(19:12):
xfl airplane you know what a bloo. So that's the
happy medium. But I think that's the next step in
the evolution. They learned their lesson last year. I think
now they know they have to have every new market,
they have to have some sort of team from the
league office that is a satellite location somewhere in the
market they're in. It has to happen. They learned their

(19:34):
lesson hard last year. It's I think they finally crossed
that plane. You know, next step we'll see besides expansion,
as we've talked, is when do you start seeing like
future build like teams actually live in these markets. And
that's I feel like that's still far off. Like, to
be honest with you, I'm getting that by second Hub
sooner than you think, I believe, but I think it's

(19:54):
still a little far off to talk the way they're
doing the cost structure right now.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
I agree unless it got to the point where somebody
one of the teams had an ultra wealthy owner. And
so because I could see if somebody was let's say
the Memphis show Boats get an owner, I could see
them minimum making the argument of no we want the
hub here. We want our players rest. We don't want
them flying around for every game. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, No, we want to be frank as long as
that standard was met and the commitments are outlined very clearly.
Which keep in mind, you know, with the league office,
with how them having all the control, you have to
make guidelines and basically franchise like structured type of like
qualities that have to be met or at least some

(20:40):
sort of agreement has to be created.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, you could end up with a hodgepodge of like
right right, Oh, you know Houston Texas naturally we'd have
the best facilities, but maybe something like he's not going
to say a team, I'm not going to assault a fan.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
No, look, I could easily slam dunk you on you
doing your usual stuff, but uh used to need too
bad you got TDCU And also again it's it's a
big vibrant community as well, so I get that. But
that look, I think anything that would take some cost
off the plate of the league that they could trust
and also would know could be managed in the same

(21:18):
quality that they're doing right now, or it's the standard
they're trying to meet, then yeah, no, I think they'd
take that right away. Be like, you're gonna you want
to keep them marketing funded? Okay, if you got the money,
you know, well, we're gonna like basically keep a close
eye arm since it'd be like outliers. But you can't
say they wouldn't take that deal if they had that
deal lined up for him right away. I think it'd

(21:40):
be crazy if you didn't knowing they're trying to do
that already.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
You just think of the behind the scenes storylines on that.
When those seven teams sharing a hub and one team's
got like their own cozy pad because they got an owner.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's like, uh'd be like modern NCAA, all the like
n AL It's like, take me with you.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, please, I want to live I want to live it.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well, if you're like, I want to live in Memphis,
Wait a minute, where are we living in Memphis?

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Pause?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Pause, Yeah, right, I'm kidding.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
I'm kidding. At the top of the pyramid, which I
think it's it's literally like the second of the third
largest pyramid in the world, which is amazing. I love it.
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Pass pro shop man, still got a visit next time
we're out there.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
It was cool. It was cool?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oh bad?

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah, So what else we got in the world of football?
I know we got Thanksgiving? But is there any we
talked about expansion? Oh well, we have the showcase thing.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yes we do. And that this one kind of went
under the radar a little bit, mainly because I there
aren't too many specifics they are doing in September of
next year, and I think that was more besides like
you're raising your eyebrow and going international. Wait a minute
in Switzerland for recruits. The other part was like the
first nugget going next year, thinking already, right, huh. That

(23:06):
was actually the first tell for a few of us
in the PFN discord. Was interesting. They're already talking about
next season and you know, again rumors are saying otherwise.
So it's kind of like the first precursor to what
we got this week, just much more tame scale though,
and ste fine, I'll say fascinating because you know, there
have been attempts other leagues to get international exposure, you know,

(23:30):
the NFL course, but like CFL two point zero gets
thrown around a lot, and I know a lot of
CFL fans have very mixed emotions to negative emotions on
CFL two point zero and well the UFL maybe not's
the same extent or grandeur of doing this, is at
least dipping its toes into it.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
You know, it'll be interesting. So we I know, we
talked a little bit before the show of you know, oh,
are they gonna expand to Europe? Which I don't think
they are. I don't think that's the plan. I don't
think that's not and that's what and Zach's idea either,
But we were, you know, joking about No.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
I just I'm just laughing as we did talk this,
but I'm going to definitely be like, yeah, no speculation,
uh speculation, send to the Moon or something like that.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, And I'm sure there's probably people out there that
are like, oh, well maybe maybe I don't. I mean,
if we're talking about Zach, think about this, we're talking
about the difficulty of a hub in like, oh, a
second hub and there there's no way we're going to
see them move to like a Switzerland or something like that.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
That would be weird. There is a world, there is
a universe somewhere where they're like hub right, Europe, But
that's not this world. No way, no way, no where.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
I see this though, though, Yeah, the player pool, because
I look at the ELF, who is a couple of
years in every year, you know, they add they had
a couple growing pains, but they're still adding teams. They
had I think over thirty thousand people at the championship game.
They the teams are solid, names are solid, the logos

(25:02):
are solid. They're pretty good, and the quality of play
is solid. And we've even seen some overlap. Cavante, Turpin
and some of these other guys have crossed over and played.
We've seen coaching all these things.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Madre London was over there as our kind of claim
over there with the USFL ran for two thousand yards
with the Centurions a few years ago.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Right, And so I look at it as the UFL
fox whoever, redbird, whoever beyond the scenes is looking at
and saying, why are we leaving that free money on
the table, and free money I'm meaning that talent pool, right,
And so especially Zach, as you look at expanding, We've

(25:43):
talked about you know, there is a lot of players
out there, but you know in some of these special qbs, right,
you may want to expand a bit beyond where you're
looking at to maybe get the best of the best,
see what's available, find the diamond in the rough, because
that's really what I feel like this is all about. Sure,

(26:05):
So I mean if I was the ELF, would I
be worried? Worried? Maybe not. I mean, they're not gonna
steal every player, but it's definitely not great for them
because I think given the opportunity, if you're a player,
where do you want to play?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Zach Well, I mean, hey, if you have a chance
to go overseas and by all means you know, I
don't think that that is any question, you know, And
to be frank, if we're talking the ELF system, these
teams do pay out money for the American players first.
By the way, local talent is not as much getting

(26:39):
a paycheck as in the dollar amounts as the US
or international imports are because that's the focus they want.
They know that that's where the big guys are. Reed,
Senet is going over there, He's getting a legitimate opportunity,
is going to get to be able to do international
scene with the with the Madrid Bravos and make at
least somewhat decent change, maybe not UFL level change, but

(27:02):
at least good enough to where you can have a
whole year pay and go play football and live in Madrid.
That sounds like a pretty damn good deal if I'm
being ost for a team that wasn't too bad last year.
But that's an example, you know, I think, as well,
this is just if I'm looking at this, as long
as it's one showcase, it's at least dipping your toe.
You know, I don't think that you should be seeing

(27:22):
if the UFL starts doing like CFL two point zer,
where it's like we're doing showcases and like five countries
in a year, and we're trying to claim that it's
to make money. This is not to make money. Like
I think, I've read plenty on CFL two point zero.
I agree with some folks it was kind of silly
to believe you were gonna make money off these things
and do it that way. This is not for that.

(27:44):
This is definitely to try and see who you can
get from a region. And keep in mind, with the
way Europe is structured, the free flow and movement with
European Union, like spacing in Switzerland, that's a central point.
You're basically saying, hey, come on, come all Europe's best
meet us here. If you want to seriously be considered
and are considering your talents to go to the UFL

(28:05):
and have scouts, that's what they're doing. But it has
to But I'm cool with them just taking one. That's it.
Don't go overboard, you can if they're that committed, you're
gonna get plenty of recruits from the European scene in
one go. So that was the mistake with CFL two
point zero, is that looking for profitability out of tryouts,
you know, to start things up. And I'm just like,
that's just not how you do it. You gotta start

(28:27):
playing games. They never got across that board, that's the
only thing. Never got to that finish line, right.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah, but it is nice to see the UFL talking
beyond this year in a couple different instances. Great. What
I would say is big ways, which kind of leads
me to what I was saying at the beginning of
the show and even when I brought up on Monday.
This gives that legitimacy factor and again not necessarily, but
also for the crazies like you and me and the

(28:53):
people listening to this show, but really for the people
that maybe don't tune into the UFL or don't tune
into the UFL on a regular basis. The guy that's
sitting around Thursday during Thanksgiving watching this game, hopefully watching
the Lions get another win, or you know, maybe you
know what? Sign you up?

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Zach? Who?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Who? Uh?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Who?

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Do do we play the Bears this week? I don't
even know. Yes, oh, well then we both can't be winners.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Then?

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Oh no, I'm one of us is going to take
a very very l I think this is our trap game.
If that makes you feel better, I mean that's fair.
Cale just through for three point forty and I know
you guys are a little banged up. I know Anzelani
just went out for believe an I R for the year. Right, Well,
we're we're a little yeah, And honestly, I'm a crazy guy. Zach.

(29:42):
I was trying to explain this to a friend of
mine the other day. He doesn't understand sports in the
way that I talk about sports. I won't say that
I understand, but the way I talk about it. And
I was telling him I was the Lions need to
take a loss. He's like, what are you talking about?
He's like, they don't they want to win all the games.
I said, no, why the hell would you want to
win all the games? He looked at me with this
crazy stare. But I look at it like this. Look

(30:04):
at the Patriots undefeated. Did they win the super Bowl
that year? Hell no, they didn't know. It is rare
that these teams go in with like one loss and
go and win the Super Bowl. It's rare. I don't
care what you say. If the two three seed to me,
I feel like that's your like golden spot. Two three
losses on a season, that's your four I if you

(30:27):
have four losses on a season, I'm feeling super Bowl
ready now. The thing I'm worried about with the Lions
my personal attachment here they peaked. You want this nine
win stretch happened at the end of the season. Actually,
I would say, you want to lose like the second
or third to last game of the season, to have

(30:47):
a loss readily on your mind too, to just remind
you that you can lose again. So I got I
feel like a three to four loss season is the
best lose right at the beginning. Oh god, dang it,
that's going to hit us. You lose in the middle,
you lose at the end, and then you go in
the playoffs with the understanding of why you lost all.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Those games win all the games?

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, or you're just really good, which I'm fine with
that too, fine with that too. I just don't trust it.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
You and I are on different ends of the stick,
like somehow we're still want to win. I I could
go a whole episode in my thought process right now,
and it would sound dumb, But also I would give
you the best possible argument on why a disaster season
is the best case scenario disaster with good offensive production.

(31:34):
That's ideal if I had to go an entire whole
episode about which I do, by the way, or you
maybe have met him, Coach Steve, He's a good bow.
We do Bears talk every week, so I get to
ramble and yell about my Bears so much. You people
are spoiled. You do not get an angry zache. You
get the optimistic and very happy about spring football zact

(31:57):
on near every show that comes on. Unless it's a
Panthers issue, then fine, whatever, Because I do treat the
Panthers like the Bears. They are an equal in my
fandom anymore. I am happy they're better. They're a better
team to root for right now. I'm so I'm freaking
still to be honest with you, is what I got,
and uh, I'm hoping to bring uh with it. You

(32:18):
talk Thanksgiving, I'm hoping to bring some of that reminder
cheer with my aunt and uncle and their cousins. Hey,
new season's kicking off back be Ford Field. Just keep
nine on those tickets. Yeah, the schedule should uh come
out soon. Got to get that out soon, by the way, League,
it's been a little bit and that's got to come
out so quickly after the holiday now.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I think so, I think we'll see it soon. But yeah,
that's a You bring up a good point. This is
a good opportunity for everybody that's listening to this on Thanksgiving.
If you're listening to it after, you know, do this anyway,
Christmas is coming up. Remind everyone ever, but nobody wants
to hear about the politics at the dinner table.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Let's be you watch after the election, now.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Nobody wants it. You know what you can talk about
spring football. Now that's gonna be something they're gonna be
expecting politics. So when you bring up anything, they're gonna
be engaged in it. So bring up spring football. They're
gonna instantly say, whoa. I thought, that's not what I expected.
Let me look into this thing. What do you mean

(33:23):
the Houston Roughnecks are gonna go twelve and oh in
twenty twenty five undefeated. Is that possible? I thought you
said you need to lose at least a game in
the season, maybe three four. Not this year. We're so good.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Proceeds to submit to the family.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
They're gonna think of the championship parade for the Houston Gamblers.
Every float with swangas sign me up. Dude, you do
not You have.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Not lived until you've seen swan Is in downtown Houston.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Somebody asked me at work, Zach, I forget, and sometimes
I forget, like I'm a real person sometimes.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
So they're doing that Fantasy World twenty four seven.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
They're doing a thing near Houston where I work, and
they were trying to get like the decor right, and
they're like, so Texas, is that like, do you guys
do cactuses or is that more of a West Coast thing.
I was like, I said, oh, Houston, we're known for
two things. And I just sent him a picture of
an oil Derrek and a swing is and He's like,

(34:31):
I get the oil, but custom cars, what do you
show me here? I was like, no, dude, swang and
again in text, So this guy I could just imagine
on the other and it's like, what is he sending me?
What is a swang on? I'm googling it and so
I'm doing my best explain it. And then it's like, oh, yeah,
I'm I'm not. I'm a real person at a real job.

(34:54):
Why am I setting anybody swinging? They don't they don't
get they don't get that I'm joking. They don't get
that I'm like a swan as.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
In this moment you pause and think this is my life.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah, I think they're just used to it by now.
I'm just a wacky, goofy kind of guy. I do
this thing. It works act, so I don't you know.
I think actually other people have done it better than me.
But I tried to become a cartoon character in the
way that I have only a select few outfits that
I wear for work, and some there's I have a

(35:32):
Monday shirt, a Wednesday shirt, and a Friday shirt, and
Tuesday and Thursday. It's a variation of maybe like three
or four different shirts. I thought I had it going.
I thought I had something good going on because I
was like this great. I don't need the shop. I
just have like a select few shirts and people know
I to expect. And then now there's like this new thing.
It probably happens where you work, Zact, plain black t shirts. Yeah,

(35:56):
but I don't want to be part of the group.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
I don't want to The new trend is like just
get plain teas, which I'm like, I can't feel. That's
why I got this like one that says the built different,
it's minimalist. That's the one example where I'll say I'm
okay with the minimalist design. Not a Jaguar fan right now,
I can tell you that I hate no Jaguar logo fan.
It took away.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Why do they gotta do that? Don't they know? Don't
they know that every company that has changed their logo
to be like the like the modern TM, you know,
like everybody hates it. Everybody there's like memes about modernizing
your logo.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's pain.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
One thing I'm not thankful for. But I'm curious, Zach,
what are you thankful for this year?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Thankful for? I am thankful for honestly, let's just say,
opportunity is what I have got. I'm able to do.
I'm able to do this show and talk about football
and all sorts of different places. Thankful for the opportunities
I'm in more professional life outside this show right now

(37:03):
is what's good and thankful for what lies ahead. And
you know, my phone football path so to speak, I think,
and just because of the folks I've worked with, like yourself,
getting kind of that experience and chances to do things
like this, you know, like I get to work with
an arena football team, like I'm doing that right now.

(37:26):
It is surreal. I would have not thought about that
five years ago when I started like trying to do
stuff like this, and now I'm technically by that, Like
that's crazy to me, you know, still not like it's
still wild. It's only been five years.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
So for my say, so, so you could talk about
that now, I know I'm the last no I can.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I can, and I'm not going to, by the way,
if any of you are tuning in, like, oh, well,
I know, I know he talks af one once in
a while or arena football. I'm not gonna spoil anything
on here. I'd probably I wouldn't lose anything, So I
know the I know the director of comms for the
league would be on my uh and I'm gonna say
it on my ass if he watched the show and went,

(38:14):
why did you say that, pal?

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, maybe we're not gonna have any situation.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I have been that, I have been pr trained for years.
You and I know this. We are very in the stuff.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Here's the thing, Zach. If you can work with me,
you can work with anyone. Because I'm crazy and I
know in the early days of the podcast when I'd
say things were different, but I think the uh, well,
I'm not going to get into it. There were certain
things that I would try to do or try to avoid,
and this and that, and I think all of that

(38:46):
is going to be helpful in your in your ventures,
uh kind of where you're going uh now watching it,
to me, it's like that's what this has all been about.
I've always said, like, you know, Spring football is all
about creating opportunities. To me, Newsroom was almost an extension
of that, where you know, we're not like a million

(39:06):
dollar corporation or anything, but we can help you get
the college credits, we can help you get in touch
with the people. We can help you make a name
for yourself and quite ezy. You could do it on
your own too, but we could also help you. That's
the way I've always looked at it.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
I'm not going to effort. Yeah, look, you you a
lot more so than even I tiede rising all ships.
There's been a lot of stuff that people be able
to do. You know, that's been special. And yeah, I
guess for my sake to kind of go and finally
say say, I'm working as essentially the media director for
what is the new AF one team. They're titled the
Arizona Bandits. We have Tempe Arizona. Still some details to

(39:44):
come out, but I'm basically been running and helping get
the social media train moving on that. And it's been
about two weeks now is of this recording. It's been crazy,
I'll be honest with you. A lot of I would
say a lot of like making sure and double checking
and getting things out when I need to when I
got spare time. But like, man, it feels so rewarding,

(40:07):
Like even when you're when you're doing something busy and
you like feel good about about it while being busy,
like that is the best feeling in the world is like, yeah,
I might be like going and running my head a
million miles in different directions. And you probably know this
well from just talking to you over the last several
years I've known you. And it's like it just feels good.
It's like you feel like you're doing something meaningful even
though the time is like hectic. You know, it feels good.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Thing you only have limited time in your life. I
always talk about this. My greatest enemy in life is time. Uh,
And so you might as well use it on something,
because sooner or later you're not gonna or you're gonna
get tired, or you're gonna get old. I'll say, like me,
like me, I feel so old sometimes. But I pushed

(40:52):
through real quick so you can follow it. So it's easy.
Bandit's af one.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yes you are if you're in interested at all falling
along or if you need to pick a team, which
some of our PF and Discord guys have.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
No team to pick, but the bandits you fools.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I'm just saying. I'm just saying you got a pretty
good option with if you want to fall along, because
I'll I'm gonna do the memes, do the cool stuff.
I'm working on better graphics, learn as I go, but
I'm trying. It's the thing.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Let me ask you this, Zach, though, how do you guys,
how do you guys plan to compete when in there
like four or five teams in Texas and how are
you gonna have like four or five champions. I just
don't know how that's gonna work.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
You mean Arizona, I know absolutely, But anyway to speak
on that, I know we can work. It comes down
to the marketing, and it comes down to why certain
teams are in certain places.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Especially the Tempee thing I think is killer because you
want and again I've lived out there, but the light
rail to me is like that is so works in
your benefit. I don't know if there's a light rail
exit in front of that stadium, but if there isn't,
it's probably within like a quarter mile walk.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, and I'm not I'm not gonna slip up and
tell you the venue.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
So oh yeah, mine. I was.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Test if there's any clip I can get into people
that are in the not be like you want to
see my loyalty. It's that clip right there.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
I could have just dropped it.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Anyway, But yeah, I don't know. I'm not gonna enter.
I'm not gonna hint. I don't know, but look, all
I can tell you is it'll be a good venue
and we're gonna get the place rock and Matt Matt Mason,
who's the pre team president of the co owner of
this thing, I gotta give him props for even let

(42:44):
me do this stuff. And his vision that he's shown
me for what he wants to do with this team
is it's bold. I'll ad mint. You know, when you
when you go on a press release and saying you
want to do a wild West show on every home game,
it's kind of a big deal. No one else does
that type of stuff in this sport anywhere in the country.
So yeah, a lot of stuff he wants to do

(43:05):
and a lot of stuff I'm hoping to help guide
that vision towards too. That's my whole goal is to
show it off the best way possible. But I got
Thankspring Football for that, you know, I guess that's how
I end my thankful I'm thankful for that. Like I
don't get this without being involved.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
In this scene.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Meeting people like yourself, by the way to even get
me going and continue to be interested so I got
more work ahead. This isn't the end, This is still
a new beginning, but like, yeah, massive stuff to be
thankful for this year, and I hope I didn't skip
you with your own thankfulness, by the way, So.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
I'll go into my thing in a minute. I am
definitely coming out to a game. I'm looking at your
schedule now because it dropped you. Let me know.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
You let me know and we'll talk. I can definitely
maybe see if I could squeeze some things over my direction.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Figure it out. But yeah, I'll probably come to that
your opening week. It looks like week two. Try to
make that happen. March is such a good time in
Arizona because it's before the torture of summer and it's
like it's actually really great weather in March right now.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
It's so good, right no, oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
This is that. That's the reason you live in Arizona
right now, this time, right now, Holidays, Christmas is like
T shirt maybe hoodie weather. You know. As for what
I'm thankful for, I'm just thankful to be doing this
another year. You know. The thing is is when I
started this, did I expect that I would be doing

(44:34):
it in three years, five years going on. I think
it's year seven coming up.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yes, I think six years crazy, you had seven, it's
crazy seven years PFN coming up.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Next year, insane. Over two decades, it's not two good
decades long, but it's spanned over two decades, you know,
into the twenty tens, into the twenty twenties. Never would
have I guess I would have expected that with the
launch date of twenty twenty doing this show, we have
even more shows to me. I think the whole fun

(45:08):
of doing stuff like this is kind of the ups
and downs. You look at a ATU. We started off
like too many hosts, and then now we've kind of
boiled it down to the regulars and probably when the
season gets closer, maybe some more panelists. Well, there's always
this increased in engagement even from content creators as the

(45:31):
seasons get near. So I'm sure we'll meet new people
as we go out to these different games, will meet
new people. I'm super thankful on a personal scale of
like football, of TDECU bringing it back, bringing it back
to some comfy seats, bringing it back to where we
get some shade, bringing it back where we have a
short bathroom line and a club area with Zach. I

(45:54):
can't wait till you see. But they have like their
own food selection, Like they have like buffets style food
that they bring out that's not like stadium food. So
they'll have like legit barbecue. Oh my god, it's so amazing.
So I'm so excited to see that. I'm thankful for
the fact that our team is going to be undefeated

(46:17):
next year. Nothing can stop us. It doesn't matter who's
on the field, how many players are on the field.
If the chance that there's only a set of shoes
on the field, those shoes will somehow get the ball
in its control and go over and score. I don't care.
By hell or high water. Twelve and oh, we're gonna
rough up at TDECU again. This explains why we didn't

(46:40):
go twelve and oh last year. I was confused for
about a day or so on then tdec you came
into frame. That's why they were saving it until this year.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
The key's right there.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Although I haven't had a chance to go to any
of the Roughnecks meet and greets this year, I'm thankful
that they're holding them because to me, that is the
key to having a good crowd at these games. I
mean that was one of the things that they did
great and the lead up to twenty twenty, and I'd
say by the end of the shortened season in twenty twenty,

(47:11):
it was over twenty thousand a game. Yeah, and you
know what, that's what you want and it looks great
on TV for TDCU. So I'm also thankful for because
I know a lot of people like Christmas, and Christmas
is fine, but when you get old, it's I mean,
unless you have kids, it's.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
I do like gifts thanks heavily underrated. Man, it keeps
getting pushed down. And no, it's I mean part of it.
Are we can buying Christmas and Thanksgiving to get together
honestly anymore? But no, it's it's my favorite holiday. Like
it's I get the most amount of family when I
go and visit family in Detroit or in Indianapolis anymore,

(47:50):
you know, like yeah, like where I'm at now, easily,
no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Well, I'm excited because we have I'm doing a couple
of Thanksgivings this year. I'm actually not seeing my family. Family.
They're coming out for Christmas New Year somewhere the exact dates,
So that'll be good. Yeah, but I'm going over to
my friend's house who his mom lives out here. He's
got kids. So we're doing that on Thanksgiving. And then

(48:15):
my wife and I because we like our Thanksgiving our way,
we're making our own Thanksgiving separately that I think we're well,
we'll start on Wednesday because we have the Ray Chuck
family recipe stuffing. It goes way back. I don't know
how old it is, but I'm gonna say it goes
back hundreds of years. It's delicious. It's and it's like

(48:36):
it takes hours and hours and hours to cook and
then you gotta let it gel. But there's apples and
onions and celery, the whole shebang sausage. It's amazing stuff.
In hardcore, I gotta do the family proud. Oh yeah,
So we're doing that family proud Wednesday. I mean, we're
doing it. So we're having one. We're doing a couple versions.

(48:56):
So we're doing one version to bring to the theating.
We're doing a vegetarian version for somebody that's gonna be
at that outing, and then we're doing a separate version
that's only for us that in the off chance everybody
eats all of the stuffing at this thing that we
still have our own. And I'm oh man, Zach. I

(49:19):
love Thanksgiving football, I love Thanksgiving food. I love Thanksgiving leftovers.
And actually I don't mind a good Black Friday deal
in fact, and I'm actually sad, Zach. Can I be
the sad guy? Black Friday isn't as insane as it

(49:39):
used to be. The deals are fine, that's all you
were The guys sit outside of like three am, waiting
to go into the store. I just wanted to experience it.
I didn't want I don't even like to I like
to go. I don't call me crazy. I like to
go at the midnight and just go into the store
and windows shop people and windows shop goods, because there's

(50:01):
something about like a best Buy at twelve twenty in
the morning on Thanksgiving night, going into Black Friday, where
everybody's aisle to aisle, there's craps lying in the aisleway,
you can't get anywhere. It's all. It's an experience, like
you know the meme. The European mind could never comprehendle this.

(50:22):
You know, it's that meme like boiled up, Like there's
fourth of July and there's like twelve twenty am Thanksgiving
going into Black Friday and Best Buy, and dude, I
will go in there. My wife thinks I'm insane. I'll
go I will literally not buy anything, or I'll be like, oh,

(50:42):
I don't know. I bought a PS four game one year.
It was like not even a great deal. I don't know.
I don't know, but there's something to it. I just like,
and I don't think. I don't even know if the
Best Buy opens at midnight bias. I don't two people
even do Black Friday anymore, you know, so, but I
will enjoy a good online ad. I'm looking for a

(51:03):
cheap TV and I saw like Best Buys got a
forty inch I don't need a huge TV for my office.
So before anybody's like forty inch whatever it's from my office,
they are a forty inch TCL.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Need to know? Do they need to know?

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I don't know why I explained it, because I'm gonna
have like, not stevit, but like Stevie Q in my
comments and be like, forty inch TV, what do you
pour like? I don't know. You've been on the internet
long enough for the tech bro guy to yeah, TCL, well,
don't you know the I mean, it's just I want
to watch like.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
You didn't buy the q AD What the hell?

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Man? Yeah, I mean to me, it's not even well
we were talking about, Zach. I want the TV. I
want two TVs. I want just an HD not just whatever,
and a CRT because I just want to hook up
all my game systems in here. I just have like
my chill zone. It's like my my uh oh, Zach,
you wouldn't believe it. I know, if we're still recording,

(52:01):
people don't care about this. Another thing I'm thankful for.
I'm gonna end it up with this. You saw my garage, Yes,
the garage. You wouldn't believe it. Now it is like
it is. I'm proud of myself.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
That's that's bait right there, to get me to come
to Houston as soon as post it is.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
It's almost like a real garage. And I'm not done.
I'm gonna actually finish it this weekend. But I'm gonna
hang up all my because I had like signs and
all this stuff. I might even put a TV out there.
Try and stop me. Now that if I do that,
then we might get like.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
The ninety in sure then say between that and visiting
the visiting the monster over there, hoping that she's okay
with me anymore.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Oh the dog.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yes, for clarity, I am talking about his dog because.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Sometimes I call my wife a monster. So I'm like, oh,
you know that nickname. I'm sorry, that's not about you,
It's not about man. So I think that's about time.
It seems like a good way to get out of
this tied to bail.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
Thankful for this show though, and you just having you.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Around, dude, because the same deal. I mean, this I
still think is crazy. This is just off of whim
doing like uh, you know, kicking things off, trying to
do like an anniversary or like an end of year special.
How this thing was birth. Let's still nuts. You go
back to our origins of this show.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
It's crazy because we'll be going into our fourth year
doing this Show's.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Right, say SFL seasons. Last year was the UFL one
and kicks off your four baby four years.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
Time flies, dude. I talked about seven years of the website,
four years of this podcast. Hey man, it's a gauntlet.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
You know.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
People give me a hard time, oh taking months off?
You do it every week.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
I'm telling you, is you know does the thing?

Speaker 4 (53:52):
You want to know the truth of it, and I'll
I will wrap it up with this. I have nothing
to prove to anybody but myself, and I do this
for a fun hobby. And if there's not a lot
of news going on, I'm not gonna go and just
talk to me. And this is truth be told. If
I go out and just talk, I'm gonna say something
I regret, and then you know what, it's gonna be

(54:15):
even worse. It's better off we just wait for a show.
And I have Let us have a life, you know
what I mean. It's a Christmas vacation. It's like coming
back to school. You should we just came back.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
You should see how busiest man's life is. All I
can tell you that is the simple. That is the simple.
Added thing I have to put before we leave. I
don't know how you do it, is all I can
tell you.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Yeah, have to.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
I applaud how you do.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
It, so I have to otherwise life is boring. And
here's the thing. Sooner or later, I'm not gonna do
any of it. And I'm gonna hopefully retire on bitcoin.
So like keep that, keep that rock and roll. In
ten years to the moon. Give me ten years, buddy,
and uh, you know what, then you'll never hear from
me again, Stevit. Then you'll really be angry.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Well and on that note, we'll sign off, folks. Thanks
for tuning in. Uh, look, stuff's picking up, I would
have to guess. I mean, we're definitely gonna have an
episode when the schedule drops, so be ready for that.
That's has to be coming very soon. I would be
shocked if we don't go into like late December and
there's somehow nothing out this year. So otherwise there's gonna

(55:15):
be more things coming. We're gonna try and get more
frequently back on air with you. It's getting about that
time where we start kicking into more in season ish
mode with things kind of getting closer to training camps
and whatnot. You're gonna see more signing, get get down
and whatnot. So yeah, won't be as much well spread
in between, is what we're trying to say. We'll be

(55:35):
back sooner than you think for episode ninety three, which
again the road to one hundred is fast approaching.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Yeah, and you know what's one of the things I
forgot to shill on this episode. One of those episodes
the Road to one hundred is gonna be our best
of the PFN Awards this year in the UFL that Friday,
Black Friday, we're just talking about it. Friday will have
a link and actually we might even have it good

(56:02):
just look below. We're gonna have a link. We're gonna
have a link below the video I'm gonna market for Thursday. Thursday,
go let your voice be heard where you can watch
all the previous episodes. It's things like favorite team, favorite
favorite player, favorite moments, things like that. Let your voices
be heard because at the end of the year we'll
probably have a special episode, either the UFL podcast or

(56:23):
a tu well maybe it's better for the panel, I
don't know. Where we go over all your results and
give our favorites as well, and we'll go over all
those details as well. You guys know the drill. Click
the link down below, fill out let your voice be heard,
and then we'll reveal the results on the last episode
of the year, whether it's a TOU or the UFL podcast.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Good Good Catches as well. Follow us at UFL podcast.
Also follow us at around the UFL and for any
of the amazing articles and of course especially news that
James Larson keeps up with follow his account at James
Larson and at PFN Newsroom for him and many of
the great content creators and writers we have that's going
to be covering the in season and lead up two

(57:03):
season moments we've got for PFN. The team seems to
grow every year bit by bit. It's uh, it's been
great again. Seven years of PFN coming up this year.
It's an amazing accoplisment. I joined five years ago, so
you know, I'm only just I'm only partially into this
whole thing. But yeah, check all those accounts out, guys.
Stay tuned with us much more on the pipeline and

(57:24):
the UFL. It's going up. Everything's going up. Where it
feels really good right now to be a spring football fan.
He's the ref. I'm Zach catching the next one. Ninety
three is on the way. Stay tuned.