The “Pet To Threat” Phenomenon & The Difference Between Having A Mentor vs. Sponsor | feat. Herman Bulls

Lisa Gardner is joined by Herman Bulls, Vice Chairman at JLL. To discuss insights on overcoming challenges like discrimination and unconscious bias, the “pet to threat” phenomenon, having a mentor vs. Sponsor, and the importance of mentorship.     With 33 years in real estate, Bulls discusses founding the African American Real Estate Professionals (AAREP) and the impact of diversity in corporate America. Bulls recounts his entrepreneurial journey, emphasizing integrity, perseverance, and the power of setbacks. He also reflects on his late wife’s influence on their family, highlighting the role of parental behavior in children's success. Join for an inspiring discussion on leadership, resilience, and success.    Also in this episode:      

• Founding AAREP: Bulls is a trailblazer who founded the African American Real Estate Professionals (AAREP) group in Washington, DC, to support African American professionals in real estate. 

• Diversity and Inclusion:  particularly following events like George Floyd's death, emphasizing the need for corporations to mirror the marketplace's demographic shifts. 

• Challenges for Minorities: He highlights challenges such as outright discrimination, unconscious bias, and the "pet to threat" phenomenon, advising minorities on navigating these dynamics. 

• Leadership and Success: the qualities needed for success, such as emotional intelligence, authenticity, preparedness, and balancing confidence with humility. They also discuss the importance of celebrating others' successes and fostering an inclusive environment. 

• Mentorship vs. Sponsorship: while mentorship can be sought, sponsorship must be earned through performance and reputation. 

• Entrepreneurial Lessons: He shares a personal anecdote about a failed real estate investment, which taught him the importance of integrity and perseverance. Despite the failure, Bulls and his partners maintained their commitment to their investors.  

• Family Influence: The conversation concludes with a reflection on family, particularly the influence of his late wife, Iris, on their sons. Bulls emphasizes the significance of parental behavior in shaping children's futures and advocates for empathy, emotional connections, and tough love in parenting. 

    Subscribe to The Uncompromise Podcast  Apple Podcasts  Spotify  YouTube    Connect With Lisa Gardner  Instagram  Linkedin  TikTok    Connect With Herman Bulls  LinkedIn    About Herman Bulls  Herman is the International Director and Vice Chairman at JLL, a global financial and professional services firm specializing in real estate operations and investment management. With over 34 years of experience, he helps senior executives solve complex real estate challenges and achieve their strategic goals.    Herman