Ep. 1: The 48 Hour Rule, Expectations for Devon Dampier, 2025 Season Preview

Alex Markham is joined by a host of former Utah football players to take a look at the upcoming 2025 season for the Utes and what to expect out of new quarterback Devon Dampier.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, everybody, Hey, welcome to the inaugural first episode
of the forty eight hour Role podcast. You know, it's
a I'm really really looking forward to this. I mean,
everybody looks at everybody on the screen here, and I'm
not the one anybody wants to hear from. So really
looking forward to hearing from my guys in just the
second here before we kick into everything. You know, I

(00:21):
wanna wanna tip my hat over here to Derek Tumiyoga.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yo. Derek.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
You know back in the day man, you and me,
when when I very first got you Nation going, we
kind of had this idea, right, let's do a forty
eight hour rule article because forty eight hour roll with
Uta it's it's kind of a special theme, right, and uh,
you know, we we got it going. We did a
fun little Q and a with the former players. Everybody
ate it up. But it's not the same as a podcast, right,

(00:49):
So you know, you guys like to talk, you guys
don't like to write. It's it's a little bit easier
that way. So this is gonna be fun. I'm really
really looking forward to, you know, just getting this thing
going and having fun with everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, Alex It's really cool to see this all kind
of come together from the years of you pushing and
pushing on it. You know when you when you got Polynesians,
you throw ideas to us. We're always like, yeah, that
sounds good, and then like we're just like, yeah, he's
not gonna call me back on that, and I'm just
not even gonna bother with it. But man, forty eight
hour what a fun, fun thing about Utah. Like what

(01:27):
a legacy that forty hour rule really means. I mean,
you look on this call today, you got cal back,
who is rog quote unquote og.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Of the of the call today.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Cal forty eight hour rule was something that started back
in the day with Coach Mack.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yes, forty had our rule loosely started back then, and
it's merged, it's evolved a lot, just like a lot
of things in the Utah program have. But the forty
eight hour rule was putting essence back in the nineties
at that Mack run.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, and to.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Give everyone a little bit of context, obviously, forty eight
hour rule and the guys kind of go through a
little bit more in depth on that was really forty.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Eight hours before the game time. It was time to
lock in.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
And I know coach with always has always said, hey,
forty eight hour rule is in effect, it's time to
lock in, you know. And obviously that meant one thing
from the from the football standpoint, and it still does
very much so, but from a cultural standpoint.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
One thing that really has separated.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Utah from any other program in my mind, in the country.
And we'll kind of dive through this of the intricacies
and kind of the differential the differences with Utah football
was forty eight hour rule of how it brought everyone together.
And so with forty eight hour rule, all the Polynesians,
a big thing that comes to us is culture and

(02:44):
always bringing people together and having everyone really come together
at a time and to share stories and to bond together, right,
And so forty eight hour rule was a perfect time
where we would all come together and that night be
able to get together at the house and to be
able to gather around a circle. And in Polynesian culture,

(03:07):
kava is a big thing that we use to unite
everyone and so in that circle, stories are told, legends
are passed down, things of that nature. And so we
took that and flip that into Utah football. Being able
to keep the tradition going. You know, speaking of Cow,
there's guys like Market Kimuwatu, his brother Chris Kimwatu. I

(03:30):
remember when I came, like those guys would come to
forty eight hour and they would tell us stories about
Cow's days, and it just keeps being passed on and
pass forward. And so I'm really excited about this kind
of podcast format because it's truly unique to Utah from
like a you boy standpoint, to unite everyone and to

(03:52):
keep everyone aligned and knowing that like forty eight hour
Rule is something that just is beyond football in many ways.
It's something that you is able to unite everyone before,
you know, essentially going into battle forty eight hours from
that point. And so you know, I know on the
call today we got some legends and really excited to

(04:13):
have everyone here. Alex again for setting this all up.
But maybe we can go around and starting with our
og cal and just introducing yourself a little bit about
the years you played, and then maybe your take on
forty eight hour Rule and just kind of maybe an
update on what you're at. Yeah, yeah, where you're at

(04:34):
and what's you're up to.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
So cal Beck started in ninety four was my freshman year,
the year this valley turned red and never has turned
back after the thirty four to seventeen Provo whooping and
rice cycles. It's a pleasure to be here, specifically with
all of you gentlemen I'm seeing on the screen, but
I'll get to that in a moment. The forty eight
hour rule of the family culture at Utah football has

(04:57):
always been a major draw. When I played at Utah,
very very rarely where their in state players recruited playing
for Utah, everybody was from out of state, specifically the
Island Polynesian Pipeline that McBride fostered and built from Hawaii.
So you had a group of people that were being
trusted or that were trusted McBride to raise their young

(05:18):
men coming to play college football, and McBride established a
family culture immediately within locker room and his team. That
was an expectation. Nobody ever spent Thanksgiving a loan. You
always had some place to go. There was family support there.
That was the essence of the Utah football locker room
from the first day that I walked in. That was
something that was a strong draw. You had people from

(05:39):
the East Coast, Texas, California.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
All over the place.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
As the years have progressed, that, like you just mentioned,
turned into morphed into something bigger and better. The forty
eight hour rule was somewhat initiated by Bill Smith, an
old linebackers coach at Utah in the nineties, because one
of his favorite sayings was loose lips sink ships, and
that it was basically forty eight hours before the game.
You didn't use the phone, you didn't talk to your

(06:05):
family about what was going on, like it was all hush.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Hush because you had to lock in.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
They were afraid of outside distractions drawing us from the
mission at hand. Obviously, the missions grew bigger and better
and more nationwide statements.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
As the years have progressed.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
But it is easy to look back and see that
foundation of family coming from that forty eight hour rule
and then being adopted and grown and fed gorgeously over
the last couple decades.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
And then obviously we got our guys Case Scott and
Zach Moss on here, Case Gott. I mean, everybody kind
of heard from you on the radio the other day
unless they were living under a rock. So you know,
I want to hear from. I want to hear from
our guys, Zach here, you know, what what did something
like this mean to you? And just being a ute man.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah, So you know the forty hour rule from me
was was nice to have that, and because we had
what felt like a family. You know, I've always said,
like the class I came in with, we're really tight.
Like we all still you know, talk to this day,
you know, hang out when we can, and you know

(07:15):
we've all been able to also play on Sundays against
each other with each other and stuff like that. But
like we really had a family knit type group in
the forty hour rule. And then, like Kyle was saying,
just that that family aspect that you had to have,
right Like, we didn't have guys doing things by themselves.

(07:38):
We didn't have guys thanksgivings by themselves, right Like. It
was always you know, if we saw one guy, that
was at least another four or five somewhere with them.
So that was big for me coming all the way
from Miami obviously, you know, coming from all the way
over there to Utah, not knowing where the hell I
was going. Obviously, I played with two guys that I

(07:58):
went to high school with which was nice to have,
but still just that whole entire family aspect that you felt,
you know that I felt on my official visit and
how they treated me then, which is what drew me
in to coming all the way across the country. And
now you start to see, you know, like you were saying,
like that that pipeline of different guys from different places.

(08:20):
You're starting to get more guys from Florida and not
just Texas and California, but you're starting to get guys
from different parts of the country and guys can really
feel that and really see that that brotherhood that we have,
and you know, it's really really great to see in
the forty hour rule, you know, like locking in was big.

(08:41):
You know, we had some really good teams from sixteen
to nineteen that really bought into that. We had a
lot of Polynesian guys like you Foe to Bradley and
I just some of the guys top off my brain,
Like we really had some dudes that really stuck with
that culture and understood it and care it for it

(09:02):
and not let it, you know, not let the ball
drop on none of that stuff either. And that was
big for us because that was a big injury for
us was those guys on that side of the ball
and how they how everybody just kind of treat each
other in that eighteen nineteen years specifically for me, we
were just so tight and so so knitted together.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
And Kenneth, if you could answer the same thing when
when you're responding to this too. But Zach, you know,
when when it comes down to it, I mean, the
Polynesian culture is unique, right, and that's something that is
is very unique to imagine Utah. But this stayed as well, right,
you know what what kind of elements and aspects from
that do you feel like we're maybe incorporated in this

(09:43):
end of the program that you know made that family
bond and that brotherhood so effective that you know maybe
maybe you carry even some of that stuff with you
still to this day. But you know that allowed you
guys to have that success when when you were up
at Utah.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
I think the key thing is the brotherhood. Like like
I said, like if you saw one Polynesian guy, you
usually before others behind him. Right, it was no like
it was never gonna be We had like a guys
were like you know, in the heat of the battle
in the game or even at practice, and you know
it was a Polynesian guy and somebody else at that moment.

(10:17):
The politician guy is not fighting that person or going
up against that person by themselves, right, They're gonna have,
you know, somebody, They're gonna have each other's back. So
I think that was the biggest thing, just like that brotherhood,
Like you know, we're all connected, we're all family, We're
all doing this for each other. So that was the
biggest thing because like you know, when you go play
in the NFL, it's really hard to you know, try

(10:40):
to have that family aspect with so many different things
going on. So you really can see that at Utah,
And that's why I think it's so easy for a
lot of guys to come back, because a lot of
people don't go back to their schools right especially you
know when it's fresh. You know, you've been gone for
four or five years, okay, cool, But when you can

(11:02):
leave ten fifteen years, coaching staff has turned over and
all that different stuff, like you still feel like this
is home and you can be there and support the
school in that way. Just because of the brotherhood that
has outlasted all those different type of changes.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
See one thing I love about you And no offense
to you on this, kenn Scott, but you know you're
you're living in Utah, you know, and so that's that's unique,
you know, just to just to see you plant your
roots down here and you know, be raising your family
out here.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
Man. Yeah, dropping my location.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah yeah, I'm not dropping your location. No, don't worry
about that. Oh jeez. But hey, Kenneth Man, let's let's
hear it from you, Bud.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
For me, I remember my like come to Utah moment
happened in my very first year of freshman year. Obviously,
when I was coming through the ranks as a highly
title of recruit coming in, I was projected to be
into too deep, you know, work my way in with
the guys, and so you know, I remember the first
fall camp when I got injured and I had to
begin rehabbing and started my Redshirt journey.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
We had a guy by the name of Niefotu, right.
That boy was a.

Speaker 7 (12:13):
Beast, like a beast, and I remember him and I
were rehabbing and I was telling him how, like, man,
I ain't feeling Utah right now because I'm from California,
right I'm alone in this essence because like I'm injured,
everybody's out of practicing, et cetera. And I remember I
was just expressing to him, you know, some of the
things I was going to mentally obviously and stuff back home,
and he was like.

Speaker 8 (12:34):
Okay, okay, you good, brother, you good, You're not alone.
We family. We family, And like.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
For him to say that type of stuff, it really
meant something to me because like during rehabbing and me
having to rehab with him, he always made sure that
I was okay. And that kind of is like the
Polynesian like like for me, have how they carried themselves,
Like even when we went to like Starlow to James Iona,
like seeing these us, like all them guys, like they

(13:05):
played that same type of role, like no matter what
season you were in your life, like I'm talking about
outside of football, not even on the field, but outside
of football, like they got your back. You family, And
so I've always you know, was privileged enough to uh
you know, luckily for me, uh they thought like people
out in the community got me and Nate Orchard well
Nate in the beginning, now they thought we were brothers

(13:29):
in the beginning because we kind of look alike. And
so we used to always have a running joke like,
oh yeah, that's my brother.

Speaker 8 (13:33):
That's my brother.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
And so you know, their their culture is very welcoming
and so being because that makes you feel at home.
And so you know, I always tell people, you know,
when it comes to Polynesians, man, you don't you better
not try to go against especially if I'm around, because
their family and they always treat me like family. And
that's always the culture that's been had around here at Utah.
And so that was my come to uh, come to

(13:58):
Utah moment as far as the family.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
That's dude, hey native is always gonna be fuck up
food to me. Man, No, no offense, no offense. It's
a legendary name. I mean, come on, but no, So
forty eight hour rule wise, man, you know what h
what aspects that that we're so important and so special
to you with with dealing with that?

Speaker 7 (14:19):
Man for me forty eight hour l Obviously, whether we're
at home, obviously we go to the I don't want
to say hotel. We go to the hotel and it's
just us. Like you said, you just put your phone
on kind of like silent. Do not deserve time moments,
just time to spend time with your brothers. And so
for me, you know obviously everybody know me and Dress
is like brothers, and so it will be like me, Dress,
Reggie Dunn, you know, Anthony Denna will just all go

(14:41):
to the room in regard like like do stuff that
we enjoy that gets us in the moment, like music,
and so we'll just be hyping each other up.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
You know, I had many roommates like Tim.

Speaker 7 (14:51):
Patrick during that time, and you know, just having deep
conversations with him in that forty eight hour span and
then Andre Lewis playing his you know, meditational type music
for us to go to sleep and really get in
that zone. And so forty eight hour rule for me
is just man just locking in whatever helps you lock
in at that moment. I know, early on in my career,
in order for me to lock in, I had to

(15:12):
be around energy and hype and stuff like that. So Beatdres,
Reggie Done, Shoot, even Sean A Siatta, you know he
put a beast back then.

Speaker 8 (15:22):
You know, he would come in, we'd record music.

Speaker 7 (15:24):
And then as I got older and stuff like that
and you know, more meditational items. So the forty eight
hour role definitely play like depending on my career at
stages or what mindset I want to put myself into,
played a huge role in regards to like my focus.
So that time was was was well had for sure.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Hey, so you mentioned the name on there, got me?
Got me kind of laughing. So, Tim Patrick, I remember
you talking to me after practice one time. You're like,
You're like, man, Kyle's trying to prove point to me. Man,
he put him in the water. He put him in
with the ones. Yeah, Man, I was so mad, Dude,
you're so mad. He's still in the league. Man.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
Man, he was balling, Man, he was he was balling,
like and it was one of those It was one
of those situations too, because like the opportunity came we
played against Michigan, was at Michigan, and there is this
type of route, it's like basically a drag route.

Speaker 8 (16:21):
And he took advantage of the opportunity.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
Like you know what I'm saying, as far as like
I wasn't like looking back at it, like if I'm
in the coach's position, I'm definitely rolling with that. And
ever since then, you know, that's when he found his
way and start getting into the mold of things. So
I always told him he was special. I always told
him that man, you that guy, you know what I'm saying.
And so it was never like any competition between me

(16:45):
and him because I always felt like we all have
our own little superpowers. But it was good, you know,
to see everybody balling like in their own way, whether
it's Kaylin you know, dress myself, Tim, you know, just
just attributing. So yeah, yeah, At first, initially I was like, nah, bro,
like what you mean? But then I understand the stematics

(17:05):
of the game. Right, makes sense. He's better for that
play than I am, right, or better for this said
role than I am at this moment, and so now
I understand it.

Speaker 8 (17:16):
But before I was hot.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
As hey, guys, he was. He was so mad. He
was so damn mad.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Could you know that play?

Speaker 7 (17:25):
Look it's the mesh play, so and dreads every time
he got that mess that boy was out of there.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
I was like, oh, that's gonna be me, Like, I'm
gonna catch that.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
But I was a mesh right and so missed of
timing and it was and then so once Tim got
in there, Tim was like a natural ad it.

Speaker 8 (17:43):
I was like, damn me, dang I played about it.
Every time they called a play like that, I'm out
of there. But uh, it's just you know, it was
all funny games.

Speaker 7 (17:53):
But at the moment I was hot because knew that
was a home run play based off what I seen Pride,
you know, and.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
We got we got cal Dog all hyped in the
background too. There you go.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
But that's why I'm trying to mute it. I apologize you.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
So I want to. I want to hear from everybody, obviously,
you know, the last the last two years, it's been
a little bit difficult, you know, as followers of the
football team, right, you know, definitely a lot of bad
injury luck. But at the same time too, I mean,
I sit back and tell everybody, I mean, look, love
of Averages, it's bound to happen, right, you know what
I mean? What was it like almost a decade of

(18:34):
just almost complete dominance, you know, and so it was
bound to happen. You know, all these teams in the
Big twelve, you know, all these fans at least think
that they're you know, relish in Utah's demise. I'm sorry
to those guys, but it's not going to happen, you know,
there's a lot of unknowns coming into this season just

(18:56):
because fifty percent of the roster is new, and that's something.
And I would love to hear from everybody as well.
It's just how crazy it is, just with the turnover
of nowadays and everything too. But I want to hear
from everybody, you know, why this is going to be
another big year for Utah, why they're going to turn
it around, and and why those two years are just outliers.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Hold up, Hold up, Alex, before we get to all
the serious talk. I wouldn't I wouldn't do my uh
my role. He's got things kind of changed.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm pulling a plug for my boy because we had
a family get together and so instead of you know,
confa is like a root and then you gotta strain it.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
You gotta have all this man, pauly Nees has come
a long way. We just put in a to go
bladder to family today.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
So I'll kick us off with a cup and then, uh,
you know, once once Zach shares his location on the
next one, I'll make sure to.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Bring I'll get you one of these over to you.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
Man, Okay, I'm god, throw some jolly ranswers in at
the bottom because the taste, you know.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, I was gonna say Colos had it, case Scott's
had it, Zach, have you had this stuff yet?

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I tried it?

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
What what did you think of it?

Speaker 6 (20:15):
Not the easiest thing, but but you do get to
a point where you is relaxing and real brouh.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, no, I I thought it'd be fitting, right, it's
the forty eight hour podcast. I was like, shoot, I
got an extra bucket here a little bit BA got
to mix that up real quick. But uh, now that
we're set to tough rocks and uh and we're ready
to roll, so I'll go smarter minds recap their.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Hey we we we need sponsors, man, So hit up
your boy. I got I got an old unga that
uh it follows the team like crazy too. He's he's
got a little cough, he's got a little Coppa bar
out there, So I was gonna hit him up, but
he was out of town. So but love it man,
love it boys. So yeah, let's hear it. You know what,

(21:04):
why is this season going to get the use back
on track? Why were the last two years outliers? And
what are you guys kind of looking forward to.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah, well, the elephant in the locker room last two
years has been injury. I mean two years ago, that
was something that nobody ever predicts on, but it's a
bug that everybody tries to avoid. And at the end
of the year, Championship football isn't really necessarily played by
the best teams, but the healthiest teams that are still playing.
Two years ago, that was a situation that we faced

(21:33):
all amongst all the positions. Last year we were struggling
for an identity. Those are outlier years because you have
usually have we have coaches in place, where the schematics
are in place, the philosophy is in place, team identities
in place. We have had to redefine ourselves and find
a way to search forward on multiple occasions and multiple areas.
The last couple of years, consistency in staffing or injuries

(21:58):
hasn't been something we're usually powerful long. For instance, next
man Up is a model that Whittingham has said for
years and years and years. We found the bottom of
next man up. Unfortunately due to the injury Bob last
two years. Like you said, the law of averages, yeah,
you hit on you get on hot streaks, everybody likes
to talk about them. Nobody wants to remember those long

(22:20):
low streaks. That's what I feel we've been, we've experienced
with the injury body.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
Yeah, to piggyback on that, Yeah, like the injuries has
been the main thing, right, that's sports. It's like whoever
is the healthiest, Right, we just saw it in the
NBA Finals, right with OKC and Pacers. Right, you get
an entirely different series, right if one guy, especially in basketball,
right stays healthy. And for us last season, we come

(22:50):
in the year before that as well, I think back
to the Rose Bowl game a little bit, just where
so many injuries running backs, playing corner, playing receiver at
the same time, and all these guys for Ohio State
having just career days, and you kind of I place

(23:10):
it back to that being like one of the first
times where I started seeing the injuries just keep hidden
so catastrophic to where it just blew all the way
up last season and quarterbacking we just had zero luck. Right.
Sometimes you can get away with a lot of different
positions and kind of figure it out, but you know,

(23:31):
usually when you go from QB one to QB sixteen,
it's going to be a knee drop off somewhere, and
it's I mean, I'm all for running the ball right, obviously,
I love it, but there's no way those guys just
having fun just having to swap out different quarterbacks. It's
so much stuff that goes into that, just weekend and

(23:51):
week out where we've all played right, So you know,
you also get to that part where you kind of
lose confidence a little bit and what are we actually
able to go out there do right? Obviously the effort
and the fight, things you can control are still there,
but then it gets to the part where you know,
when the quarterback plays just it's not where you wanted

(24:13):
to be. It's only so much you can do, and
we're all humans, so you get to that that realistic
part of the game as well, just the player versus
things you can't control. But you know, I think hopefully,
you know, I think I think we'll get into some
of this. I'm kind of jumping the gun a little bit,
but obviously I think we got a really good quarterback

(24:34):
this year. I think last year, especially with all the
injuries as well, I think the offense just got a
bit stale under love with and I think obviously that's
why he stepped away and changes had to be made regardless,
I think it's going to happen anyways. So I think,
you know, bringing in a fresh new offense, bringing in

(24:55):
new quarterback, new backs, different system, something I don't think
that Utah has ever really had, like this style of
a quarterback. Like what we're going to be able to
see a guy who can truly be a dual threat, right.
Obviously we've had guys in the past that right, quote
unquote are dual threats. But I think with a guy

(25:18):
like this, especially how football play now at that position,
if you don't have a dual threat, right, you have
to get in the shot. And then you've got to
be able to be a high level RPO team and
past run option team, right like I played with coaches
where it's r POS, pro's all these different things that
you've got to be able to excel at. And I

(25:41):
think the way they're building this team, and I've been
to a few practices and what I see, and you
know what the hype is behind these guys and the
OC that.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
They brought in.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
I think, right obviously, these guys stay healthy, things get
back on track to where we're having these these highs again, were.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
A dator arade container collision away from a totally different season.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Mean if that doesn't happen the entire season last year
is a different conversation.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah yeah, agreed, agreed. You know, Zach, you mentioned something about,
you know, having how there has been dual threats, but
he's like a true dual threat, you know. The best
the best way to describe it with Devin Dampier is,
I'm sure that you guys are probably a little bit
more strategic with your old Madden games or old college

(26:33):
football games and everything. But I would always like I
would get like the most athletic or fastest dude on
the on the damn roster, Okay, put him at quarterback,
and then I would just like I'd paul it hell,
Mary and I just run back and then you start
running towards the line, and then I'd take it. Needed

(26:53):
playing me, right, you know, But so like throw it
last second, get the rough on the passer or hit
it or you know there's nothing there and just bust it, right.
And it's crazy to say it that way, but like
he does it a lot smarter, right, But in essence,
it's kind of its kind of how Devin is, you know,

(27:14):
just the plays that he keeps alive for such a
long time. And man, I mean, Kenneth, you could even
speak on this man being a wide receiver. How would
you like having a quarterback like that where it's like
he's running around, You've got all this time to get open,
Just break loose, he'll find you.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:31):
Man, it definitely adds a different layer to it because
you know, like the play is never really over, so
it's like a two piece part of the play. So
you got the original play and then all right, now
it's backyard football, like let's just do whatever tank the
man to try to get open, get to an open
space to where he could just throw the ball while
he's on the run. And so it does add a
different element and kind of going back to what Zach

(27:53):
was talking about, Man, I love the freshness of what
this year is coming to because before it's like, okay,
seem like the same old stuff blah blah blah blah.
But this year is like it's like a not a
breath of fresh year, but it's like something new that
we haven't seen in a while. So I'm I'm curious
to see what's gonna happen this year. It's all good
thoughts going into it. But uh, I do like what

(28:16):
I see in regard to being fresh, but the new
evolution of what's going on at the QB spot, like
he's saying, having a true dual threat, and the way
things can open up after a play breaks down or
even shoot within the play, Like you just never know
that factor of it, Like people can you know, run
a base covers play, you know the covers that pertained

(28:37):
to that set play, but once that thing goes you know,
backyard football styles all right, Shoot, now we really got
to find a way to play ball. And I think, uh,
that's the level of of nuanced we're able to we're
gonna be able to get out of this. Is that
extended play action in regard extended play of action after
the original quote unquote play is done. If you guys

(28:58):
kind of tracking with me, but uh, that's what I'm
interested to see.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
I'm gonna cut in here real quick before my back
but I'm just thinking off of what case Got is saying,
and now my brain is kind of rolling on this
football thing, like just just from the standpoint of the quarterback,
like thinking of how you know, because we're not talking
about the defense, right, Like the defense is coach Scally
those guys shot all those guys they make that defense

(29:25):
runs no matter what. Right, we never really get into
the weeds of injuries or the defense side of the ball, right,
we don't really talk about that side. That side is
usually going to do what it always does. So I'm
just thinking, you know, yes, damn PII is you know,
hopefully going to have a really really successful year. But

(29:46):
now I'm thinking about the passing game with the receivers, right,
like who are the guys in that room right that
it's going to step up to make him look the
way he needs to and should look right like we've had,
you know, the past few years has been tight ends. Right,

(30:06):
we haven't had like that X receiver you know what
I mean, case that like that guy outside where you
look and I'm like, hey, we're throwing a fade route
right now, we're not running the ball, right, like, let's
go to fase. I'm like, who are those guys? And
we were talking just like thinking like okay, who are
the guys that's going to make him look like that

(30:26):
caliber style quarterback that we know his athletic ability and
gifts can allow him to get to right. Like you
talk about the breaking of you know, making extra long
plays like extending plays and things like that. Who are
the guys gonna he can depend on and lean on
to make those big plays right in the style offense
that they're running. At the same time, as for the

(30:48):
guys in the receiver room, who can get a lot
of rack? Like, who are those guys that's going to
be able to break tagle? Who can be dynamic? We've
always had you know, really since Case got Love, we
haven't had, you know, a super dynamic receiver. Right. We've
had running backs, right, you can go you We've had
tight ends, we've had dynamic office alignment even Like but

(31:13):
who that's who are gonna be those guys and this
type of offense. I think for this style offense, it's
gonna come down to the receiver room a lot more
than it ever has because you know, when I was
we had a rod you know, we're just gonna turn
around hand the ball off right, it didn't really matter
how many people was in the box. Then you got

(31:35):
the year after that we had Ah Troy Taylor, and
it was.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Kind of gives me a little vibes.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
We had it for two years, kind of gives me
a little vibes of what these guys are running a
little bit but so much more advanced. And then my
last year with love Wig, it was, hey, ten guys
in the box, doesn't matter, turn out, hand the ball
off right.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
So well, guy, you guys definitely had an identity.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yea utub football you like you mentioned uta, defense has
had an identity since I played with Papa winning him.
I mean that's been that's taken care of. Next plug up.
It don't matter who's in who's out. You play a
high standard. Yeah, the identity of the offense. And I'm
glad you mentioned the wide receivers. We haven't had that
wide receiver in some time. That's been that threat to

(32:24):
go up and get it, as well as give the
quarterback a reason to keep their eyes downfield while they're scrambling.
And that is what we're gonna need for this quarterback
this year. Be the wide receiver that not only is
going to get open and grab those fifty to fifty
balls and compete, but you got to give him a
reason to keep his eyes down field because he is
going to run previously, Like you mentioned brilliantly, the tight ends.

(32:47):
The tight ends would break in or out at the
specific level. It's what costs us the Florida game down there.
It was too predictable. But that's the person that there
was there on the RPO option.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
It's get.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
The thing that I'm looking forward to this year is
the fantasy leagues that start setting up trying to guess
the depth chart weekly.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Since winning, there's going to be odds on that plans
are in a bet.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
So right now, I was talking about the wide receivers,
the articles in what Whittingham has said the last week.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
They're all doing great.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
They're all ready to perform, and they're all adapting to
the offense extremely well.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Guys, wash rants repeat from every year dating back.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, let me let me have every year.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Let me add to that a little bit on this note,
because in two thousand and eight, after wins the Sugar Bowl,
so Zach Ludwig was there in two thousand and eight,
so I was recruited during that class, and it was
exactly what you said of like, hey, we know the offense,
we're gonna turn around hand that ball off. And then
they had bj who could just who could light it
up right, And they truly had some dynamic wide receivers

(33:57):
that year of Sugar Bowl. But the offense was heavily
upon that run game. And you know that's why they
recruited guys like me who were six foot four, three
hundred and fifty pounds, because we thought we were going
that way. And then after oh wait, Sugar Bowl, Ludwig
left and they tried to go to a spread style,

(34:18):
no huddle offense, very not to the degree that I
believe this offense goes right. Obviously talent wise, everything like
that is very different. But we try to go no huddle.
And the dynamic I think that is different from then
to now is the offensive line during that time was

(34:38):
they had offensive linemen that and this is obviously offensive line,
so I'm thinking about it, so don't don't fault me here,
But we had offensive line that run block and like
when they said we're gonna start doing kick like three
step kickback, I was like, bro, Like when in my
high school.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Film, do you ever see that?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Like you saw me hit the corner on the pool
and mall dudes fifteen yards downfield. So it was dyna
different and it took a while to really adapt to that,
and I think there are some growing pains that happened
from an offensive standpoint during that time where I believe
this team may be set up differently, uh wide receiver aside.

(35:14):
Where I'm excited for is this offensive line is the truth?
Like there and and I may overreact and I'm like,
and I've said it before, I'm like, hey, this offensive
line goes, this team goes. And maybe you know, Zach
can back me up a little bit on that because
he played with some greats. But literally, like I look
at this right tackle left tackle combo and I'm like,

(35:37):
and I think coach Witt said it, and Devin uh
Daffier might have said it himself where he's like, bro,
I'm sending for seven seconds, eight seconds, And I'm like,
if we can't find a receiver that can get open, kay,
Scott could throw in the pass right now and I
guarantee you hit that drag route and he'll get open
man in eight seconds, Like we should be okay, And

(35:57):
like I think people are calling him the best tackle
combo in the country this year.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
For a few thousand yards with this line. Oh and
in case you you wouldn't have to always be taking
receptions out of the sideline.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Man.

Speaker 8 (36:14):
You know, so this is actually the point that you
guys are bringing up too.

Speaker 7 (36:17):
So I remember it was my senior year, when it
was a junior or when we had Christensen and we
had the spread offense.

Speaker 8 (36:25):
Yeah, this is the only thing that worries me. I'm
not gonna lie.

Speaker 7 (36:29):
So like from from when I started and we had
eighty wide MATTHI out that's when I was my freshman year,
and then we had John White and then we had
a d book. Right, when all us feels something goes wrong,
a simple thing may go wrong in the past game,
something very small, we strip away the pass game and

(36:49):
it's running.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
Like it didn't matter who we had at receiver.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
It didn't matter.

Speaker 8 (36:56):
We was gonna run that ball no matter what. And
I remember I remember John White had a game we
had forty carries.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
I was like godly.

Speaker 8 (37:08):
Right, And so I felt like, no matter what we
had on.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
The outside, if something goes small, like completely wrong in
the past games, something really small, they just like, all right,
well that we we stripped out a phone, but let's
go ahead and and just hand the ball off from
the rest of the game like it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
All right, well I'm gonna do.

Speaker 7 (37:25):
I'm gonna send you that you're gonna run past past
the first down for two yards, turn around.

Speaker 8 (37:30):
Make sure it's a time throw. We're gonna keep the
possession going.

Speaker 7 (37:32):
And it seemed like that was like the case, like
especially during our time, It's like, man, like why what
things gonna happen in the past game? And I remember
it was the twenty fourteen year we had Christen. The
first four games.

Speaker 8 (37:45):
Man, I thought I was gonna have like one hundred.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
Catches because like the first four games, I remember I
had like eight nine catching in Washington State, like the
first couple of games President State and the other I
thought I was going.

Speaker 8 (37:54):
I was like, oh, it's gonna be a crazy year.

Speaker 7 (37:56):
And then after that Washington State game when we lost,
right now, all we sudden we running eighty.

Speaker 8 (38:01):
Twenty, I'm like stop, I'm like, god, dang.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
So it's like I'm hoping that, oh yeah, when it
came to blocking, shoot, I was I was gonna get it,
but uh but I'm hoping that, like uh, you know,
things changed and there's opportunity for the passing game to
keep going despite a mistake or two, because it's going
to happen in the passing game. So I'm hoping that

(38:27):
they just don't give up on it if there is
a mistake, you know what I'm saying, that's the only way.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
And to your point on that, like, I think it's
very possible because I'm thinking about that running back room.
There's no one in there that's established themselves as the guy,
right like you you had you named a few guys
John White, Asiata, right like you naming all you guys

(38:55):
were who they were, you know, at their respective times
this year, right, they don't have that guy that you know, Okay,
he's no one else is splitting time, right, No, we're
not running back by committee. We're not trying to figure
it out. That's this year goes on. So like obviously
the kid Parker was Parker, right, Like, I've heard a

(39:18):
lot of good things about him, and he looks apart, right,
But it's he hasn't officially taken over the room obviously
because he hasn't played yet. So it's like I think
the offense finally, Like that's what that's kind of why
I'm happy, I said fresh, because we don't have the
turnover of the key guys, the locked in guys of

(39:40):
who were getting the ball to right, I think this
ball can be spread across the field pretty evenly. And
that's why I'm more so thinking I needed to be
the receivers that ticket, right.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
But I wanted to be those.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
Guys because right, I think that period is a junior
We don't know, you know, obviously not with the nil stuff.
Guys come back a lot more time than they want
to write. They're gonna figure out a way to get back, right.
But it's like, you don't know if he has a year, right,
we don't know if he has two years. So I'm
like to get the absolute best out of this offense.

(40:18):
It's going to be playing to his strengths, playing off schedule.
He can play in the pocket, which he's gonna be
able to do because you got those two big dudes
out there holding down right and then and you know
those two guys are important, right, but that interior is
just as important. But those guys aren't getting all love either,
but they're doing their things as well. So I think

(40:39):
for me, I'm like, the receiver's gotta go do it.
I think that's you know, they'll get theirs because playing
with a dude like that who's ran for one thousand yards,
you're not gonna see You're gonna you're gonna get too
high that safe thing coming in that box right because
you can't do it, and he's going to And then
Dampier is going to be accounted for every snap right
like he's got. So it's like those guys in the backfield,

(41:05):
they don't have the time. You know, whoever pulls that
out pulls that out.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
But even if runners, receivers, even if a running back
did start to take charge, Winningham wouldn't admit it in
the press nor of the chart, like it's going to
be a mystery. I think the group has the greatest
opportunity for growth is the offensive line. They are the strongest,
most cohesive unit, and it all starts on the line.

(41:30):
That is U tough football. Like you just mentioned, it's
we established the run, we win the physical battle, and
that line will do that nicely this year. As far
as the offense, new offensive coordinator, same with UCLA, nobody
knows what to expect. We've never seen this quarterback, we've
never seen the running back. We've never seen this oc

(41:51):
So one thing to expect is they've got a clean slate.
Last year, we had high expectations for our number one,
and as soon as he had to be replaced, A
question is can we reach the level of expectation we
had at the beginning of the game This year, it's
all for not. We're more focused on the defense because
they are reloading much better, they've got more experience coming back.

(42:13):
But we expect that high level of football on the defense.
I think the offensive line and the defensive line are
going to be something to watch in the first game
this year if they're going to establish what they're gonna
do for many years to come, specifically on the defensive line.

Speaker 8 (42:27):
And then also I'm sorry to add too. Man, you
guys all right, that wide.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
Receiver unit is going to have to make some plays
in regards they won't have an amp opportunity because the
way you guys broke it out, great offense line, great
running back, and Danpi are gonna have to be accounting
for us.

Speaker 8 (42:43):
That's gonna make a lot of one.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
On one one.

Speaker 8 (42:48):
Oh my gosh. So if you can win your matchup,
Oh it's so rap, you are good see it?

Speaker 6 (42:53):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (42:54):
So you guys all right, man, whoever, Hey, whoever, someone's
going to have to step up in that receiver room
because it's gonna be a lot of one on one
opportunities on the outside.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
You know, you know what I love about the receiver
room this year too, and it's it's been weird because
obviously they won't release the depth chart they've kind of
talked about at seven or eight and everything. They do.
Feel comfortable with the guys. Again, it's something that every
year in Paul Camp, everybody's been excited. Everybody feels comfortable, right,
But you know there's there's guys do different things on

(43:25):
this one this year. Right, you got Merriweather and Simmons
that are most likely going to be wide receiver one,
wide receiver two. Davis is coming over with that familiarity
you know with Dampier, and then you got Zipperer that
is a hell of a deep threat.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Then you got JJ Buchanan, who's gonna be kind of
a Brent Keithy Keithy's freshman year where he was more
of a he was more of a wide receiver that year. Right,
So there's a lot of intrigue. There's plenty of other
guys that I haven't mentioned that there's some unique stuff
to him. One thing I've heard is there's going to
be a lot of short passes, just getting the ball
out quick and getting the guys in space and letting

(44:02):
them do damage with the yak. I mean, that's that's
where Nate Johnson is going to come in, right, So
he's not going to just be doing the sweeps and
the end a rounds, taking the direct snaps. He's he's
gonna be getting those, he's gonna be getting the quick passes,
he's gonna be getting screens and just put him in space.
And I mean, we've all seen what Nate can do
when he's in space, right, you know, So it's it's
gonna be interesting. I do feel like, you know, and

(44:26):
I haven't heard this for certain, right, but well so
the one thing I know for certain is when Morgan
takes over, Morgan insteadfastly believes that he can maintain the
same level of defense with an Irban Meyer style offense. Okay,
so that is the style of offense he wants to run,
and that is one of the reasons also why Utah
kind of went this direction, right, And so the stuff

(44:48):
with years past where you know, yeah, this is this
is going to be about. I mean, Utah is going
to run the ball quite a bit, right, But at
the same time too, I don't see it being like
in years past where Witningham would go to Love or
any of the other guys like, Hey, no, we've got
to start We've got to just start running the ball.
We can't do this, we can't risk this, right. I
think that there's gonna be a lot more I think

(45:09):
that there's gonna be a lot more leeway this year,
and so I'm really looking forward to that with Beck.
But you know, guys, so we we've been talking a
bunch here, looking forward to doing this all season with
you guys. That's the one thing we haven't mentioned everybody.
This is gonna be something we're getting you guys on constantly.
I'm gonna I'm gonna be loving it. The fans are
going to be loving And I appreciate that you guys

(45:29):
have the faith in me and wanting to do this
and you know, just being together with your boys. Right.
But you know, so going forward, we'll obviously kind of
talk about more so what we want to see in
the game coming up. It's a little bit different now, right,
just because again both these teams being Week one and
you know, it's fifty turnover for Utah. I haven't even

(45:49):
even seen what the turnover is for UCLA. All I
know is it was pretty It was pretty crazy. And
you know, they spend a bunch of money in the
in the spring portal too, so it's gonna be very
very interesting to see. So before we get out of here,
I want to hear you know what what each of
you kind of what each of you guys kind of
feel like the key is for youth on this game

(46:10):
and hair a prediction from you guys.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
The keys for the game for Utah is confidence and
their identity and not going out there fart, fumbling and
falling down. They've got to come out of the tunnel
ready to do things and make statements off the get go.
I also expect the ESPN predictions for our senior season
standings to be way off. They have US number ten
in the conference by the end of the season, they

(46:35):
only had they have US favored against. We are the
underdogs against UCLA, Texas Tech, West Virginia, ASU, the team
down South Baylor, and both Kansas teams. Yet they are
not that far off. They are ye, thank you, they're
not that far off to say. Like mel kiper mentioned,
I think Utah's the dark horse. I'm gonna call him

(46:56):
out right now and say, if you're a true Utah believer,
you know what Utah is going to starting in week
one in LA on Friday or on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
My prediction is half of them. Usk will be passed
out drunk before the game starts.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
These late games on the East, on the West coast,
that he's freshmen, don't know how to party yet.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
We haven't had a home game. Another prediction, Another.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Prediction I have for Saturday, I think that they're they're
quarterback Nico, I'm a transfer or I'm gonna leave you.
I think he is going to transfer away from UCLA
by the middle of the third quarter. Because our defense
will continue to extend our season pick six record. You
all know how many years it's been. This will be

(47:37):
year twenty two that we have had a pick six
for a touchdown on defense in a row, which we
will do in every single game on the way to
the Big Twelve championship.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Every single game. Okay, defense of it, love, the passion,
and the offense will.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
Be so productive. Scott Mitchell will be jealous.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Hear that expert analysis from it?

Speaker 6 (48:05):
Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Is that who's gotten next?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (48:08):
I mean, you know, looking at this first game, for sure,
I think the main thing, uh is the identity part.
That's gonna be the biggest thing. Like I said, not
much turnover in the sense of guys from last year,
you know OC and all this type of stuff, and
then just the cohesiveness of these guys learn how to
play with each other like that nil stuff and all
these guys transferring in and out. These guys don't play

(48:31):
with each other for more than six months, right, Like
you don't practice with each other, you don't get to
know each other, you don't want to fight for each
other in that aspect as much as when you're you know,
been in school for three four years, right and you
know these guys and you know what to expect from
these guys, and you know what you're going into warwicks.
So that's that's gonna be a big thing because a

(48:53):
lot of these guys they transfer, you know, uh for
a lot of reasons, uh, financially being number one and
maybe if they're not getting the ball as much. How
does that react to the team? Right? If I came
over here to do this. So I'm looking for the
cohesive on this side of the of the offense, mainly
because you know, I look at offensely, but I'm looking

(49:16):
for that just kind of see how that is going
to go. I think, you know, that's where the Utah
football family stuff and you know all that stuff is
going to come into big time play because these guys
have to buy in. I remember when I got here,
and you know, I had a hard time not kind
of just learning the way a little bit. And I

(49:38):
remember coach with them saying that you're going to turn
into us, We're not going to turn into you. So
that's gonna be huge. I want to see that just
because of all these different guys coming in and playing
with each other, having each other's back. Obviously, the offense
is being established, and kind of seeing how the OC
is going to call. The Game's gonna be a lot
of temple stuff is going to be, who are the

(49:59):
guys getting the ball early? All those different things kind
of give me a good insight of what's going to
happen down the road. Obviously for the season, man finishing tenth,
that's not even possible, Like you're gonna have to make
sure that there's nobody on the field for us to
finish tenth. If these guys stay healthy, man, and they
do what they're gonna do, Coach WADA's gonna have these

(50:20):
guys ready to roll each and every week, no matter
you know, underdogs or not. I mean, I remember twenty eighteen.
We were underdogs a lot, and we figured out a
way to carve things out and figure it out and
play really good ball.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
So I'm not worried.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
About the finishing tenth. I know will be what we
want to be at the end of the year, and
that's gonna be the big touch amship game for sure.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I'll I'll just.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Wrap it by saying, I know we're short on time,
but I don't need to echo anything everybody said because
it's all true. I think two things. One, when you
chose the underdog, you chase the best at its best,
and when it has that chip on the shoulder, that's
when you got to watch it out.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Number Two, I got some racks on this over under
that we need for the the season. They're picking us
to finish at seven point five. Your boy went all in,
I'm gonna come up and then if I could get a.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Nice little bonus maybe at the end of the podcast,
you know, come a big tour championship game. I'll let
you know how much it is. But this ship, I'm
going for it. Uh, there might be some money on
this UCLA game. So anyone's got some mends, let me know,
uh legally.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
You know, man, I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
I'm excited, glad to be the token Polynesian on the
on the show today, So appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Like that.

Speaker 8 (51:44):
But now you know me as far as the game, man,
I just think I think we're gonna come out on
the top.

Speaker 7 (51:48):
Twenty seven to twenty three. I don't know why that
number popped in my head. Twenty seven to twenty three.
We're gonna come out on top. It's kind of mimicking
what what Calent and Zactly was saying. So we don't
get it done, man, I think it's gonna be a
good showing for sure.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
For sure, I'm gonna echo that score twenty seven two three.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
There you go, there you go, there you go. Well, Hey,
I'm gonna say I don't need to repeat anything you
guys said. I'm just gonna say, you know, I'm gonna
take a line from a national guy that absolutely loves
Utah and Utah's back. It's death taxes in Utah Football
from the beloved Joel Klatt and uh, Utah is gonna

(52:30):
win this one thirty one to uh thirty one to seventeen,
we'll say, and uh, you know, yeah, Utah's back. Boys.
So hey, looking forward to this season with you guys.
Love that you guys wanting to do this with me.
I know everybody's going to be enjoying your insights and
some of your stories and uh, you know, just going

(52:51):
along for the for the ride with us. So you
know again, I want to thank you guys, want to
thank everybody else for joining in. Do everybody I faver here,
just hit the like and subscribe button and uh, you know,
beyond for the belong for the ride this season. So
appreciate you boys, sir.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Appreciate good week. Go take care, see y'all.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yay, next next time you talk me Lely buddy, get
that rect get that.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
We'll come on something that's a little too much man,
that's a little more players left.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Big twelve Championship.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
There you go, day the ones that grinted the friendliest.

Speaker 9 (53:32):
Yeah, things are moving in the right direction, making sure
I'm keeping things up in the right perspective. Yeah, I
guess that's knowledge and it comes with growth. Manifesting everything
has been my main approach gaining wisdom on my business ventures.
Went from piggy pitch and investing things that will make
me rich, your quiet, some success and large my simple
vision now shooting for the stars and pretty there one

(53:55):
quit me up.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (53:57):
This the life that I live and the love that
I guess. Yeah, there ain't no hate of been my heart. Yeah,
and pieces are my chef.

Speaker 8 (54:07):
Wes Shis.

Speaker 9 (54:10):
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many can't co Path Welcome to the players left, Yeah
we know the moment many cant of path.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Wes