TVF - EP 6 - The UFO Paranormal Bigfoot Connection with Bryan Bowden

Tonight on The Venomous Fringe, we sit down with Bryan Bowden. Bryan's had over three decades of research in the fields of cryptozoology and paranormal along with ufology. Bryan comes on the show to share some of his experiences and beliefs as we dive into the rift of the unknown.

NoBoBuMe (Nobody But Me) Hosted by Bryan Bowden with Special Guest Dr. Pat NMD

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Our world is filled with darkness that nobody can explain.
In what we face, we also encounter the work of evil.
Join us tonight as we dive into subject matter of
something wicked and macarm that inflicts our modern world. You're
listening to the venomous Fringe.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Bodin.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Brian Boden is a very renowned paranormal investigator, UFO researcher
as well as cryptozoologist. He has a very mandrola of accolades,
been on several podcasts from The Shadows to Spaced Out Radio,
as well as also participating in the Three Beard's podcast Guys.
You can find Brian Boden on a number of outlets

(00:48):
as well as his own podcast, in which he'll be
glad to plug in at the end of this episode,
but without further ado, I want to bring him on
the show. He's a very good friend of mine and
I have a lot of respect for him. Before we
even sat down, we talked. We literally it spoke hour,
about almost an hour and a half tops, and it's
been a great conversation and to another great conversation we
have tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Brian, Welcome to the show. It's great to have you on.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Hey, Chris, thank you very much for having me on
the show. It was it was fun. It's always good
to catch up, you know. Life it throws you some
curve balls here and there, but it's always great to
you know, speak with you. And when I get back
up to the New York, New Jersey, whatever area, I'll
probably give you a call again too. Hey, what are
you doing. Let's get some Chick fil A.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Hey, listen, Chick fil A is really good, man. I'll
tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
And it's don't encourage you to go out there on
investigations to eat it beforehand, but I will tell you what.
If you're feeling down on a good time and you
want to get a nice milkshake with some fries and
a nice chicken sandwich, Chick fil A is your go too.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
I don't know for anybody listening in if it's all
around the US. I only know around the East coast
by me, and of course down south by Brian it's
and it's nice now by me, it tastes great. I
don't know how it is in Florida, my man, but
I hope they treat you well over there too.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Oh yeah, it's really consistent. It's really good. There's another
place that's kind of kind of coming up, though it's
equivalent in many ways, called PDQ. But what we're talking
about chicken and ate right now, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Getting hungry a little bit before the big event.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Huh yeah. Yeah, No, you know what, I don't like
to eat before I investigate for the most part. Yeah no,
I mean I haven't eaten all day. I have to
eat within a certain time period, but I like to
eat after the fact because I want to, you know,
not just not to be hungry or anything like that.
You just I don't have any problems. You know, some

(02:34):
food agrees with you and some food doesn't agree with you.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I think it's just a common Yeah, no, you're right,
and I agree with you, because there's a common neurological
thing where people after they've been to an event. Let's
just say you've been to a concert, and then after
the concert, you just want to get food because you're
so overwhelmed, you've been sweating. And the same rules apply
to when you're going into an investigation. I've yet to
met anybody who's ever come out of an investigation not sweat,
not feel anxiety, not feel nervous, or.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Any of those nature.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I myself have always went into a place with heavy anxiety,
even investigating a room alone, my hairspring up on the
back of my chin or my neck. Sorry, and I'll
be real with you. I've never ever come out of
an investigation or in general, ever have been to a
place where I've ever felt or never said to be uncomfortable.
I've always been uncomfortable in places. I've always been together
with people, luckily, but even when I'm in places where

(03:23):
I'm doing a solo thing, where I'm in a room
or you know, I'm just by myself, where I know
I'm in a trustworthy selection of areas, and I still
get that uneasy feeling. I think that's any researchers. It's
true research as well, and that's one of the topics
I want to talk about tonight.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
But I'm sorry, what were you gonna say, sir?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
No, No, I mean you're let me tell you something.
Been doing this for a long time, forty i plus years.
And one of the reason why we I don't also
eat beforehand is because if you get it's if you
get something that that's messes with you, and some people
get affected by a certain type of infrasound or sound

(04:04):
waves or vibrations or whatever in certain situations that could
make you own a vomit and that could be very
messy or go to the bathroom or uneasy. If you
get uneasy and nervous, you get you know, usually get sick.
So you know, but being nervous on these things, it's
a natural occurrence. It's not about It's not a much

(04:25):
cheese mo thing, you know, being macho or like you know,
an alpha. The people that you know that tell you
and I've worked with plenty of them, and like, yeah,
you know, I wasn't scared. I'm like bullshit because I
saw you there and I saw how you looked, and
I'm I'm a student of of the world in regards

(04:47):
to and knowing emotions and reactions, and I know when
people are just something got to them, and you know,
you can try to play it up like, oh, you
know it was only pretending or whatever. Look, it's natural.
I've had. I've had, I like to call them. Depends
moments on investigations, depends being those undergarments, because it gets

(05:11):
to that point where there's puckering going on, and that's
how real it gets. So it's just a fact.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know, there's a lot of people who exaggerate a
lot of things when it comes to investigation and when
it comes to going into an investigation, and I think
it's trendy because there's a lot of influence when it
comes to certain tribes. Now, this topic of tonight is
not to go into that type of matter, but to
bring up for the reference topic of what we're discussing,
because it is it does apply to what we are saying.

(05:40):
You know, I mean there is a lot of compromise
in the field, and it does relate to one of
my questions. I'll discuss with you later, but I have
to agree with you on a lot of bullet points
you brought up. And you know, it's something that is
increasing by the second in the field. And when I
took my hiatus from twenty twenty one to now, you
know that whole year and a half span of just

(06:01):
you know, relocating and figuring things out, there's been a
lot of change. Obviously, when COVID hit there was change too.
A lot of places were shut down. We had a
huge substanti in the logging industry that was completely obsolete
for about a good six to nine months before they
decided to reopen things. When the state decided to go
ahead with things, depending on where you're at, but for

(06:21):
a lot of parks and for a lot of places
there was limitations.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Now. One of the things too.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
That really fascinates me is when it comes to locations
now where you're at right now, because for those who
don't know, you're from originally New York and you've been
now relocated down south. Now, has there been any change
in your investigation methods or any change at all in
the research since moving down and relocating.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
No, I mean the only thing change is, you know,
getting accustomed to a new area. I've been doing this
long enough where we have I have a ton of
associates we'll call it, you know, friends and associates that
are are in just about every state, and if I
have an issue, I can call them up or you know,
you ever experienced this, you call them up and is

(07:10):
a reference point. The only thing that's been different recently
is because this is a new move and I'm kind
of getting adjusted everything. I haven't been out investigating. I
don't have a team down here, you know, I have
a bunch of people that will do different things based
off of cryptids. I'm kind of moving away from the

(07:31):
haunted stuff because I mean, if you've seen it goes
and you've had it Goes experience, but you haven't, I mean,
it's it's it's really is become black and white and
and you know, but I'll let everybody else know from
your show, I don't do demons. I do not do
demon demonic or demons or anything that like that. It

(07:53):
is well above my pay grade. You need somebody that
is qualified and really knows how to handle those situations.
I'm not the one to do it. I've got too
many things back home when I leave an investigation, kids
and a spouse that I don't need to bring that
crap home with me. And when you're playing with things

(08:14):
like that, it's not a joke. So this is why,
you know, I mean, this is why you have to
get the right people to do the job. But other
than that, nothing's nothing really dramatic. I mean, their research
is going to be the same, and you know, and
then when you go out to investigate. I've been doing

(08:35):
a lot of solo investigating, but based off of UFO stuff,
I've met people because they it always comes up, Oh
you do the paranormal, or they'll see my hat or
they'll see his shirt or something like that, like, oh
you do paranormal. Yeah, yeah, And then they start telling me, oh,
you've got to investigate this place and this other place

(08:55):
over here is you know, and they'll give you place
to investigate. So that's that's the better for being the
new guy. But other than that, it doesn't it doesn't
change too much, you know.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
That's another thing too I wanted to bring up is
the fact that the cultures are always adjacent now to
the mysterious unknown, I think about a decade ago, or
at least even let me if that's let me backtrack
a little bit. So if you were to tell the
average person, whether in the Tri State or in Florida,
for example, about Bigfoot or about mysterious u UFOs or anything,

(09:30):
UFOs would probably be more plably plausible because UFOs were trendy.
There's a heavy increase in mysterious array of anomalies of
that nature for the longest of time. Bigfoot's still kind
of brand new at the time, and I'm talking in
a timeline of nineties, so there's still a lot of
early discussion newspapers, magazines, you know, art centers or something

(09:52):
of that nature, places where they have very small little leagues.
This is before social media, this is before we can
have more advertising. So going down to a lot of
these regions there would be the name of Bigfoot or
the name of the ufo. Ufo would be more believable
and a big Foot would be more less less to

(10:13):
be more like less talkable because people would fear ridicule
a lot more UFOs. Though, I think it could go
both ways. It just depends though, because everybody, even in
the even before like my example of Timeline, there was
a multiple.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Of race sightings.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
And I know as you have studied UFOs for a
long time, you know you've seen so many different places
of ufo strange lights. Florida is a huge hot spot
for that as well.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yep, Well you know what, UFOs are more accessible. Bigfoot
on the other hand, that squatch bigfoot. Yeah, way, you know,
whatever you want to call the wild man. Not everybody's
out in the woods hiking. Not everybody's up they're going

(11:04):
down country road or rural road. There are not as
many people that have seen these think well have reported
seeing them. There may be you know, hundreds, if not
thousands of sightings of this, but they're not going to
discuss it. And when you get down south, there's a
cultural thing to it too, you know. You mentioned that

(11:26):
at one point, where if it goes against your culture
or like, for example, if you're Native American, indigenous, whatever,
these our guardians of the forest. So you're not going
to discuss about the guardians of the forest with anybody
outside of the people within the tribe. You know, when
you get into people like well, I was out there

(11:48):
moonshining over there in Georgia and there's big skunk, you know,
they're not going to tell you there've been moonshining. So
a lot of these times very covert, but everybody for
the most part, has seen something strange in the sky,
and it's mostly because they don't know about it. Now currently,
since Musk has been around and doing starling, we've gotten

(12:13):
numerous reports. I get reports, not just you know, from
New York State, but we we deal with everything globally.
And here's the picture of what I took. It looks
like a string of pearls. So all you gonna do
is go up there and yep, where are you again? Okay, Yeah,
that's called Starling. They just launched it tonight, you know.

(12:34):
And Starlink is the series little satellites he's trying to incumb,
you know, come and cover the entire globe with these
you know, these these satellites. And when they launch, it's
in like a string, so it's dot space dot that.
You know. It's one giant thing. It looks like a mothership.
And if we were if we were seeing that in

(12:54):
the you know, uh, twenty years ago, anything up to
the twenty years ago behind instantaneous, that would be the
greatest UFO in the world. Look at the UFO, you know,
but it's it's starlink, you know, so it's easier for
people to see a UFO. But currently the last couple

(13:18):
of years with all this fake Pentagon disclosure blah blah
blah junk, now, you know, they want to put their
own fresh spin on it. So now it's that UFOs
we're talking about. We're really talking about UAPs unidentified aerial
phenomenon versus unaddentive aid flying object. Now I'm going to

(13:40):
still continue to call them UFOs because that's what they are. UAP.
In my opinion, this is from my research, anybody referring
to a UAP is referring to a faked object and
made it's it's bs. Anybody referring to UFOs is talking
about flying object your classic you know, like not of

(14:04):
this world or within the inner Earth or in interdimension.
There's a variety of different species out there. So that's
where I go. I think UFO, I think you're correct
about that with the UFOs.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
And do you think that like when you go when
it bringing up the whole UAP thing, do you think
that they're trying to throw that out there as a
narrative distract, just to keep us away from another kind
of narrative In reference to UFOs.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
It's it's almost as if, see the UFO brand, UFO
has been always associated with people with tinfoil hats, so
they needed to do something to put it in a
positive light for the powers that be, and that's why
they went to unidentified aerial phenomenon. What I liked about

(14:55):
UFO versus UAP is that a UFO can be anything
that's moving and it doesn't have to necessarily be in
the sky. It's an unidentified flying object. You can fly
on land or the sea or in the air. If
you can fly anyplace, flying means moving. In this case,

(15:19):
it's an unidentified moving object, whereas uap is an unidentified
air real aerial phenomena. I don't give it. You know,
they can call whatever they want, you know, mysterious potatoes.
It's it's nonsense for us. They're doing it not as

(15:39):
a distraction. They just want to put something different on
it to make themselves feel better about it. But I
think what's been taking place the last couple of years
with the disclosure and if you can't see men, folks,
I'm putting up quotes when I say disclosure. I think
there's a lot of bs going on, and I think
there's a lot of people that are being praise for

(16:02):
doing such great things. Well, they're stepping out of the
military and the shadows to tell us things. No, the
people that you're putting your faith into were liars for
the federal government. That's how they made their money. Their
job is to deceive you. But in this case of
UFO UAPs, they're telling you the truth. I got one

(16:25):
word for that bullshit. That's what's going on. You know.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I have the same analysis on it, and not just
because of what you said, and I always say, it's
a lot of people all the time when it comes
to their opinions, because I have a very much sort
of the same opinion on a lot of things because
I was raised old school, I was brought up in
a very non Catholic but very much so respectful I
respect the higher up and pray and believe type of household. Now,

(16:53):
of course, without going into the official terminology of it,
because it is irrelevant to the subject. What is relevant
is is the fact that when I look at a
lot of what we are being thrown at, I always
believe at the end of the day that there is
higher up in charge and it's definitely not our government.

(17:14):
I don't believe it to even be that nature. I
do know who it is. However, not to get too religious,
it's the fact being that when I look at UFO stuff,
this also ties into it, because it can go both ways.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
For some people out there.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Who are non religious too might think of a higher
up the UFO being aliens and whatnot, because that's been associated.
But one thing I will say is is that I
think there is an unexplainable reasoning for why there is
an array of situations that are being spread out the
way they are, whether they're being spotted sporadic more so

(17:51):
than they ever were. I also kind of would like
to argue the fact that because social media was not
usable in the eighties and nineties, and was never really
a thing up until at least the late nineties when
we were introduced to dial up and whatnot, that these
things were normal occurrences. You had people all the time
with their camquarders and on the VHS reels playing them back,

(18:14):
playing all those old reels of them taking footage as
strange lights in the sky at night. So I find
it very odd that there is a strange association with
terms when it comes to UAF or UAP and then UFO.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Because I've always associated as UFO.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
I mean personally, you ever think when I think of aliens,
or when I think of anything in the unexplained anomalies,
I think of UFOs, I'll never think.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Of auf UP.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I kind of think for my generation it's a little
harsh because we're thrown that in our face a lot
more than those who are the veterans of the trade,
who have been out much longer, who obviously have textbooks,
who have had a series of documents and a series
of notes that have always associated and in your case,
you know, being into the UFO ology and UFO researcher

(19:01):
for a very long time. But yeah, man, I mean
not to get on dragging on too long onto it,
but it's very interesting discussion because I've always questioned, you know,
the reasoning of all the declassification and with everything going
on in the world right now, with all the UFO things,
and then you bring up the starlink system. You know,
I've can imagine how many misleading situations it must have

(19:24):
been for people to call and ask about seeing this
in the sky when it's just the starlink. Because I've
noticed the lights in the sky too, and there have
been times where I've noticed an array of different kind
of lights where I've been taken aback by. But I
realized that those are also lights that are stationed in
starlink as well as also those are also lights of
our own private military jets that are over by me.

(19:47):
So there's so many different factors, And that was kind
of something too on that end.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
But anyways, what I was going.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
To say is that, so there's a lot going on here.
You have a guy I don't care. I've said it before.
Louels on don j Soandra, he pronounced his last name,
and I apologize for that. I've been at a bigfoot
conference for this whole weekend, So and Harry. Yeah, well,

(20:20):
I went to the Great Great Florida Bigfoot Conference and
there was ufotok there. But basically, the people that are
the key figures in the current situation of disclosure and
UAPs and all that other stuff a tip and whatever
not to go into everything is Lou and Lou's job.
He works for the Defense Department and his job is

(20:42):
to life for a living. And I thank him very
much for his service to this country and doing what
he had to do to deceive people in the process
of protecting the United States of America. And I can't
thank you enough for that service. And anybody that serves
in those type of industries and the military industrial complex,
you know, God bless you for doing that protect this world.

(21:02):
But I know enough about that business that anything comes
out of that man's mouth and he says he's telling
you the truth and he's releasing all this shit. How
the hell does he still having security clearance because he
should have lost that the second he dropped anything. And
not only that, the man should have been arrested and

(21:23):
thrown in Leavenworth for life because he has a huge
security clearance. So someone who's not losing their security clearance
is giving you all this great information. Ooh ua UFOs uap.
Believe me, I'm calling bullshit on This guy's job is
to life for a living. Now why he's doing it?

(21:45):
It's very simple. It all boils down to the following
thing called green. It's money and power. And you know,
in the process of this whole reverse engineering that our
government within a government has been doing until military Industrial
complex reverse engineering stuff from Roswell and all these other
crashes around the world, they've created their own craft. They

(22:08):
have the ability to create their own craft. They have
the ability to create their own grays, which are clones basically.
And I think that well, first of all, the tic
TAC video and all these NIMI stuff, I saw that
years ago. Wasn't impressed back then, And I'm like, I
saw this years ago. Why is everybody going Google Gogo
over this? Because now the general public is looking at

(22:31):
it and it's like it's not a big deal. But
what would you do if if you had the technology
that was so advanced. We're one hundred and fifty years
ahead of everybody. And if the technology we have right now,
this is the low end scale of that stuff, and
you're testing our military's response to that, right, that's what
you're doing. Why would you think it's from aliens? I automatically,

(22:56):
it's the minute I saw the tiktac and all this stuff,
then what was doing on thinking like, Okay, we're messing
with the US. We're messing with the government and the
army to see what the response is going to do this,
Let's see how fast they can keep up. Because if
if the world finds out that we actually have this
technology and we can recreate and duplicate it, this is
just a tip of the Iceberg War to be done

(23:19):
like this, just like that, and and you already know
that we build. You know, there's a triangle UFO that's
seen all the time and people see it clear as day,
and that triangle UFO is basically a t R three
B that the blueprints of this thing is is filed.
You can get through the Freedom of Information Act. It's there. Enavaled.

(23:42):
Naval intelligence has created an anti gravity engine. Do you
what do you think, where do you think they got
that information from? So this whole, this whole thing that's
going on right now is like some like Dog and
Pony show, so that we can get they can get
more money to put into these dark black projects and
they can control the masses. If you if you fool

(24:04):
the people thinking that you're going to be attacked by
UFOs and aliens, then what do they want to want?
Protect me? Right? Save me? It's it is a lot
to this and it's not just UFO based. There's some
politics in there, there's some other stuff. But don't buy
into all of this stuff. That's just my two cents.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
No, And honestly, I mean, you know, it's something that
I think a lot of people don't really like to
touch base on a lot because it is a very
scary rabbit hole to go down, and a lot of
peoples of opinions and beliefs change. You know, they don't
want their beliefs to change drastically, but they'll end up
changing them because of all the information that they are
being told. But going onto this real quick before we

(24:45):
switch gears, because I don't want to keep on switching
on to that subject because of certain nature values.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
I want to ask you one more thing. Yeah, you know,
when you when you when I when I say these things,
I know, and I'm not doing this purposely, when you
start stepping on toes, it becomes a problem, That's.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
What I That's the other thing too, Like I mean,
there's always a river the cross, and then sometimes there's
a river you can't cross, and that's one of them.
And that kind of leads into my next thing, is
you know, how dangerous.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Is this type of situation.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know, especially for those who are in control of it,
how dangerous it is for those who are invulnerable to it.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Well, So I've been talking about UFOs a lot lately
with a lot of different people, and how dangerous is it.
It's very dangerous. It's deadly, and I'll tell you why
it's deadly. So back in the sixties, seventies and eighties,

(25:48):
right there are these things called cattle mutilations. And if
you watch skin walk around, you know what I'm talking about.
They find these gals with the eye sockets pulled out,
the sex organs cut out, surgically removed, no blood, nothing right,
and people have been trying to figure it out. But
if you've been researching UFOs and understand the concept of

(26:08):
what the grays do. The grays come in different forms.
There's the little little grays they're about three to four
feet tall, and there's the medium sized grays, which are
about six feet and then the tall, taller grades which
go up a little bit higher than them. Okay, the
small grays are worker bees. They're extraterrestrial biological entities. They

(26:31):
are clones. And their IQ this is from research and
through information through third parties and in other ways. Roughly,
their IQ is no higher than about an eighty nine. Okay,
they're not that bright. Their job is to say that
you tell them, go in there, get that body and
bring it here. They'll do it because they have abilities

(26:52):
to manipulate material, so they can walk through a wall,
and then they can manipulate you. Teach you how to
do it subconsciously, and then that's how they get in
and out of places without you know, being detected. They
can do this. But the other reasons why everything crashes, Okay,
So I would alluded to the fact that the United

(27:15):
States military has been reverse engineering this stuff that they've
caught and captured, plus whatever they've been given. And yes,
I thoroughly believe there is a treaty. Then there was
a treaty and IKE got involved in that one as
an hour and you know when they reversed engineered that

(27:41):
they also now know how to use clones and create
extra you know, these grades. And what's been happening because
this has been reported by numerous people who have had
experiences and remember things, and they've been multiple abducted multiple
times by different species availing. And it's plus by the
US government pretending to be aliens. Listen to what I

(28:06):
just said. The US government abducting people doing experiments and
pretending to be from an alien race. That's illegal in
every ounce to the word. It's illegal what they're doing,
it's deadly. Why are they doing that, What are they

(28:26):
taking from the people that are abducting what's their main
purpose of abducting people and pretending to be extraterrestrials. Okay,
on top of that, when they're extraterrestrial biological entities, the
little grades get loose every once in a while. They

(28:47):
got loose every once in a while. It just so
happens that there's usually a human mutilation associated with it.
So if you want to know about deadly and talking
about how dangerous it is. It can be very it
can be very dangerous. It can be deadly. And if
you constantly are picked on by the US government or

(29:08):
the powers that be within it that are are are
monitoring these things, and they'll tell you, after a while,
cut it out. They'll give you a couple of shots,
and they don't. Don't call us out. Cut it out.
You're gonna have a problem. Then you'll get picked up
like Romanek. And the first thing they do is they
charge everybody that's associated with that with child pornography. That's

(29:31):
how they get you. So, yeah, it's dangerous and it's
it can be very scary, especially also that that's just
our government side of it. When you're coming up against
the actual extraterrestrials, that's a totally different ballgame too. They're
not here to contrary to the popular opinion, and to
keep hearing it drives me up the wall, Chris absolutely

(29:53):
up the wall, batshit crazy. The people say, oh, there's
a galactic federation and they're here to help us in
our planet, and I'm like, really, I bet you. They're
all sitting around a table wondering if they should order
Chinese food or Italian for lunch. Bullshit, This isn't star Trek.

(30:15):
There are there from what I know that it's even
more than what I know. There's over two hundred and
fifty different species of extraterrestrials that have visited this planet.
There's probably quadruple that at minimum. Right, they're not working together.

(30:36):
They're all out for their own and it's basically to
save their race. So it gets scary. That's what's going
on here.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
And would you say that nuclear weapons were made for
these preferred reasons in the event for stopping a galactic
thread of this nature.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
No nuclear weapons were created because we had scientists. This
is part of sciences and chemistry. And when you're a scientist,
the one thing that the culmination of all that that
labor and all those like X to the Y to
the Z squared cube, all that, if you can build

(31:14):
it actually working model of it and see it work,
then you'd be like, yep, that's what we it's it's
it's interesting. We had the balloon gate controversy. These balloons
flying over Canada into Montana, right, and they're trying to
I mean, I saw I saw the news on it.

(31:34):
They're trying to play it off is that the UFOs
they're not UFOs. Then even if there were UFOs, you
think that we have anything that can shoot down the UFO.
It's like bringing a twenty two pistol to a howitzer fight. No,
we're not shooting down UFOs. We shooting out Chinese spyplanes

(31:55):
or balloons or something that we purposely put up there.
That's what what's going on there.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
No, I'm with you, man, and I figured, you know,
that was my one nuclear question. Used the N word
for the one occasion, you know, at the special word,
you know, and I mean.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
It's child's play. You know. You realize back in the seventies,
in the eighties, and almost every decade since we started
really storing nukes, UFOs have shut them all down. They've
taken control of it, all the silos, they shut them down,
They re scrambled the coats. I mean, there's a reason

(32:35):
they're here and they're doing shit like this because they
need to save their own race, which is dying off.
We're the base model, that's literally it. We're the base model,
and they use genetics to work out the kinks in
it so that they can recreate their specific race, so
they'll play with nukes. They'll shut them down as long
as they save what they want.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
That's a good take on it. You're not the first
one to bring this up. I've spoken to a couple
of people who've discussed the new theory, and one of
them being what you just said in reference to one
goes up, they'll get shot down and then we don't
want will say anything about it because you would never know.
And that's something too, even by the NORAD satellite or
any form of satellite would even be detecting it because
they would see.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
That right away. It'd be like a little laser go.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
But that's something that it is a very interesting discussion
that I'd love to talk about down the road with
you on because there are so many rabbit holes, man,
so many different things we've talked about in the last
half hour in reference to that, and you have no idea.
I think the audience too would have no idea. I'm
where to begin with stuff like that, because on one end,
you got people who have a certain belief system that

(33:42):
it will always be adjacent to them because of what
they've studied, or at least what they've been told. I
like very much, so what the government with those who
believe in the government what they say. And then secondly,
it's the fact that once that viewpoint has changed the game,
everybody else now begins to cower down and begins the
panic a bit because they see that sometimes changes the

(34:03):
ties have changed a bit. But see, when you bring
facts to the table, and when you bring science to
the table, when you bring knowledge to the table, you
are bringing things that will help expand not just evolution,
but also a better mentality. It's a matter of those
who want to use that mentality. And that leads me
into another topic of discussion, which is about mental instability

(34:25):
when it comes to these fields. Now, without going ahead
and getting our bow and arrows and going and making
our targets, Primre, I want to ask you, in the
last three decades of your expiration of researcher beyond, how
much mental instability have you seen in this research in
all fields. By the way, when it comes to UFO,

(34:46):
paranormal crypto.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
So when we investigate, and when I investigate solely solo
versus like when I'm investigating with the team. You know,
my partner al Santa Rigo. Here you go out and investigate.
Alic's got me in some doozy cases, which I've told them,
and I've listened to it. In the beginning, I'm like, dude, Nope, nope, nope,
I don't want to do this. Nope, this is this

(35:09):
is someone who needs help. One of the things you
do as an investigator is and we're not doctors, and
we're not science you know, scientists, and we're not qualified.
You know, I'm not a psychiatrist or a therapist. There
is a lot of mental illness associated with this field.

(35:33):
There's a lot of it. People see things we have.
We had a couple of people that have come to
it's completely saying that they have UFOs and they see
him every night, you know. And then they'll say, you know,
I look out my window. Well I'm taking my lithium,
and they're right there and they're just flying around you
just like you know, I caught it when you were
taking your lithium. Yes, when I take my lithium. And

(35:56):
you know, I've had people, you know, and we treat
them as human beings. They are suffering from, you know,
issues here and there, some of them more severe than others.
But we'll look at other ways to get their mind
off that subject or we'll just you know, we're not
going to leave them in the lurch, but we know

(36:17):
that they're suffering from an issue. And there's a lot
of that there. People see. The problem is people want
to believe. They're desperate to believe, you know, and and
they also want to be part of the the collect
or the group or the social setting. And when you

(36:39):
have certain issues, you know, like I feel, you know,
I see this all the time. I see people with
turetts and they're cursing and cursing and cursing. They're beautiful people.
They don't have control over that. They don't, you know.
So sometimes when you lose control or you're you know,
disfigured or deformed or whatever, then you start seeing things

(37:02):
you just want, you want some kind of a semblance
of being a human. Then there's people that are not crazy.
And we have ways of when you're interviewing somebody or
they come to you and we have questions, we ask,
and when we get some red flags in the questions,
we offer them help elsewhere, Like we'll try to steer

(37:27):
him into a direction like who's your doctor, dear, you know, like, sweetie,
who's your doctor? If you told him about what you
really should tell him about it. Well, he'll think I'm crazy.
I know he's going to think you're crazy, but just say, listen,
I'm not crazy. But I saw this and that's a
way of us getting you to get that help. And
the doctor is going to say, yeah, you're having to

(37:48):
you know, he's going to address that properly in a
professional setting. I can't address that. But it's everywhere. I mean, look,
you you know I don't really go online that much.
I post many things and I try to get off
the big focus right now talking about is paradolia. I mean,

(38:09):
there are people posting pictures like, h took this one
outside of my front house. In front of my house,
the big pine tree there, there are sixteen dogmen in there.
They're all facing me. Sixteen dogmen all facing you.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
With twenty two inch python arms.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
By the way, yeah, yeah, exactly. You know how much
you know how much sixteen dogmen way in if they
were just eight feet tall each. Okay, you're looking close
to it, like nine hundred pounds times, you know, sixteen
You think that tree is gonna hold that up?

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Let alone a human being one by one that would
be mangled, torn to shit. That's the thing that I
think a lot of people fail to recognize with with cryptids,
you don't geta be wrong. They recognize strengths and numbers,
but they don't fit to recognize arrogance and common sense.
And that's something that is so convoluted, so so necessarily
big in the last decade since social media has been

(39:10):
opened up. I agree with everything you said because we've
talked about this, even off the record, and even even
before we did a show like this. We've talked about
this in the past, and I've always had the same
setup system belief.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
It's never changed.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
I've started talking about it more vocally because I'm at
a point.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Where I don't care about it.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
I do believe that there's mental instability in the field.
I do believe it's everywhere I think any I think
a lot of people have definitely crowned to that. Some
can say I have become that as well.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
That's fine.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
But the good news is is that when I look
at a lot of the testimonies. Now I'm gonna use
eyewitness as an example, right, I've had people who have
shared with me their cases. Some cases I've looked at
and I've said, you know, I mean, I'm nice to them,
I'm very respectful, and I than my honest opinion, and

(40:01):
I say, listen, like the normal person who will say
I do not see anything wrong with this door when
they're trying to handle the situation, I will say, well,
I do not detect anything abnormal on your property, nor
less your case, based on not just what you told me,
but how you described it see people. And this is

(40:24):
a very common thing. I think, even though that there's
not really a certain science of credentials for people to
go and do research, such as, you know, if they
had to take a course, a college course or something.
But I do think if you take like a psychology class,
or if you take like a class when it comes
to body language, or a class when it comes to

(40:44):
certain human biology, those are important because you can actually
identify when somebody is either lying to you or when
somebody is telling you the truth. And I notice in
some cases. And of course, just because I went to college,
I had a great time, you know, I was lucky
enough to you know, do it. When I was at

(41:04):
the time doing my other show I had to go
to I was going college simultaneous, and I had classes
and those are some general classes. I took some psychology, physics,
and of course the human brain, you know, neurology and
how we operate in the stem. So one of the
things that was brought up was about how people will

(41:25):
use a certain amount of wording, certain terms to realiterate
themselves about their character, about why they're saying that, or
about why they're like that. That's been seen as either
deception or that's been seen as in valid personality traits,
signs of nervousness, signs of anxiousness, signs that they are

(41:49):
not telling the truth. Now there's also that other swing
to it, where people have disabilities such as autism or ADHD.
In this case of myself, I have ADHD. So do
I necessarily repeat words and reprecipitate or a stutter. Yes,
absolutely I do, because that's just me. But I also
play it wise and I also not necessarily go into

(42:13):
a dialect where I'm constantly saying a word or I'm
constantly going back. But this has also been used before
in the military as a tactic when it comes to
interrogation and reevaluation. So it works three different ways. It's
a matter of how you interpret it. But I will
say this because I don't want to get off to subject,

(42:37):
but I will say though a lot of the time
I do have a hard time identifying what is valid
and what's invalid because I'm very much so used to
getting somebody come through it, especially when that person's not
in front of you. I feel the best experiences when
you know something is either valid or invalid is when
you can get someone first hand as telling them their
story and you're right there.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
In front of them, you know. But that's my two
cents on that.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah, you know, I mean, I I have other talents
that've been telling me people telling the truth or not,
but not to get into there. There's one of the
biggest tells is if you have somebody tell you, you know,
what they saw, and then then you tell them to
tell somebody else what they saw and keep doing it.

(43:21):
Oh oh oh, oh, Dave's here, come here, tell tell
Dave what you saw, and you pay attention to what
the guy's telling you. It should be the exact same
story every time they're doing it, and when they're when
it's not, and when they they skip or they forget
parts about it, and then they oh, you know, it's
been such a long time. I forgot the whole story.
When that happens, I'm guilty of it. I'm tired or whatever,

(43:46):
you know. But you can see when people are bullshitting you,
you know, and it's it's really tough. It's the same
thing with people. Look, there's nothing wrong with it. You know,
ninety percent of the people this plan is on a spectrum.

(44:06):
That spectrum is huge, spectrum, Like it's huge, and and
there's there's good parts about having a mental uh mental disability,
which you think is a mental disability. You got people
that who were artistic and they can probably blow you
off the door with the mathematics skills they have. It's

(44:28):
there's always something that someone brings up, Like we had
this guy in the neighborhood and he's he's slow. But
if you talk to Mickey, you tell him what year
you were born, he'll tell you the exact day you
were born, what the day was, and what was going
on that day, and he's one hundred percent accurate. Around
the world, you will tell you, oh, that was a Tuesday,

(44:51):
the temperatures blah blah blah. What's really weird about it
is he's not reading the papers, and every paper he's
connecting to something that allows him to know all that information.
So that's a huge like, you know. So that's when
sometimes when these crafts come in or whatever, you know,

(45:15):
they will choose people like that, you know.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
But now you bring up another topic too, and that's
also I forgot what the terminology, what the technical terminology
of this is called. But this also applies to when
a spirit is attracted to a specific person. It's an
equivalence of a certain and now there's always good and

(45:38):
bad in that case, but there's a reason for this.
There's a reason why a spirit might choose a person
for whatever reason, the same way a bigfoot may want
to follow a person or a dog man or a
chupacabra or whatever. You know, Why would they want to
follow that person? What is it about that person? Was
it the good vibes they present into some evil vibes

(45:59):
and they just want to see what those vibes are,
you know. And this is me talking third grader because
I know for some it's kind of hard to manifest
a little bit without trying to go to technical But
I do see what you're trying to say, because there
is a law of attraction and it's also been seen
in mammals. You know, why are when we have trainers,

(46:21):
you know, or zookeepers that have built a connection with
these mammals, you know that they've raised whether it's chimps
or gorillas or you know people like in marine biology
who mess with dolphins or orcas.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Yeah, you know, in the spirit world, and then I'm
won't focus a little bit on that's right with you. You know,
if you're a good guy or girl, you pass away
and you go to heaven, I've been doing good down here.
The best you can do. You go up there. Guess
what as a spirit and ghost, you're going to be

(46:56):
just like you were down there, very nice, you know,
sweet whatever. The guy it's the asshole down here or
the criminal or whatever, well, a lot of times they
don't go up there to to heaven, and nine eight
of the time they're fucking assholes. And if you were
an asshole in life, you're an asshole and death. You know,

(47:20):
that's that's what happens. But I think the attractiveness can
be multitude of different things. You could be I think
we reincarnate. We choose to reincarnate and come back to
this planet, and in the process is either to help
people or to fix and help people. And when I

(47:42):
say fix fix things you didn't do the life or
two or three previously, you try to correct that. You know,
and I'm telling you right now now coming back to
this planet, I'm not going to be the guy that
comes back because I've had enough. We got growed on
this deal. Guys, people our age. But you know, you

(48:07):
don't know who you're attracting. You know, a spirit could
be attracted you. That's your uncle or your aunt, or
your dog or your cat or something like that, and
that's what that's why they're attracted to you. Or there's
an there's a you know, you may have abilities and
gift that you're not aware of and they're attracted to
that and then just trying to get you to get

(48:27):
it out of you. You know, Bigfoot has been known
to be attracted to females. Most of the Bigfoot, I
mean really we love having females in ourn investigation. There's
something well, first of all, it's females always smell good
and look good for the most part. But that's what
Bigfoot likes too. And they can smell on a female

(48:52):
when they're going through their cycle monthly bill payment that's
what released. There are hormones, there a sense being released
in that process and they smell it and it's like
a running period and it drives them kind of crazy.
You know, like al you mentioned before you work with.

(49:15):
He brought a couple of people and they were all
women to one of our spots and they started monkey barking,
going crazy for these girls and they were you know,
you know what they would have done, don't know, let's
gear the hell out of these girls. But it's the
coording ritual too. You know. The difference is we as
humans you have to ask somebody out they say yes

(49:36):
and whatever. In the law of the land. If you're
in alpha, you take what you want and that's it.
And it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
If only if it was easy like that for humans,
right you know what?

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yeah, well, if you know, if you're in alpha, they're
going to present you to begin with, you know, most
of the females to be like, oh, look at the
big boy, you know whatever, and then that that big
boy will make his choice. You know, that's it. Now fascinating.
The gorillas have multiple, multiple partners.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
They're saying, oh yeah, no, I mean silver backs.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Man, they take no bs they're straight up out of
the wet work. And trust me, I mean I've seen
We've seen plenty of documentaries to where you can tell
their behavior, how they react, and how they go about things,
and they just don't give a damn no matter what.
Now they'll rip apart an infant, and I mean I'm
not trying to be vague, I'm being real of there's
they've ripped apart babies that's not even theirs. If that

(50:38):
it's theirs, and they'll rip them apart anyways, because they
want to breathe. They want to keep on the dominance faction.
Juveniles they've ripped, they've they've killed. I mean they've killed
the juveniles before the older, younger adults before they get up.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
To the hair.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
And the same thing goes to the lions. You know,
they killed like their cubs. You know, it's all by
it's all evolutions, all biology, and it's something that I
think a lot of people dismiss because they don't want
to hear the grim reality of things. But you know,
you bring up about something when it comes to bigfoots
and when it comes to the whole See, I've always
seen it like this, the way I'm gonna word. It

(51:11):
is like you know bigfoots. As you said in Alpha, right,
you know, the alpha takes what it wants. So these
bigfoots are like the mentality works of just douchebag gentlemen
where they go ahead and it's like, you know what,
We're gonna go ahead and I'll snatch a forest bride
because I can, because I can score, I can win.
Now not to switch to Duram mcgears because you know

(51:33):
this is a curiosity question.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I know it might come off weird.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
To some people, but does the same rule apply to
female bigfoots as well?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Because I know a lot of cases.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
There have been cases I've heard where female bigfoots and
depending on who it is, I mean they adore the
male researchers, but they freaking despise females because of obvious reasons.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
You just described humans as well. It's the same thing.
I have a wife, daughters, and I'll tell you, and
I'm gonna say it. I'm not a sexist whatsoever. I
just tell my daughters like, look, fall in love, but
make your own money, You be your own boss, you
get your own education, you do it. It's it's it

(52:15):
trust me, you know, women can do very well, just
like men can do very well. But it's it's always
like that. We have a role reversal going on right
now where there's a lot of men taking care of kids.
Women are now working, women are actually having more affairs

(52:37):
more than men has ever. Okay, it's it's a power thing.
Take what you want to take what you want to
take you want. Doesn't happen with all of them, And
this happens with like alphas, you know, and that's an
alpha mentality. I've never heard of a female taking someone.

(52:58):
I've heard of female's approaching. I've heard of people being
abducted story wise secondhand, you know, like the storyteller type
of thing. They've been abducted. They brought back to the
campsite of the tribe or wherever where the clan is,
and the clan being the male, the males, the females,
whoever the leader is, and the females, some of the females,

(53:22):
you know, wooing up to the to the male. The
white hairless gorilla. You know, that's what we become, you know,
they're they're all they've all got hair, and we don't
like why is the only partially have why does the
just have a beard? What is it underneath it? You know?
But it sums all the time. There's this very down

(53:47):
the line, we're going to find out how how quickly
and how much we're related to these beings Sasquatchland. And
there's also stories about there's a creature called dog Man right,
which is a liking, and this story is of that
creature actually trying to go and copulate with females. That's

(54:13):
just not a pretty picture, is it, Because you know.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
It's the first of my hearing. But that's not surprise.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
I mean I was kind of surprised when I heard it.
I was like, maybe this is you know, this seems
a little contrived and made up, and but I mean again,
I wasn't there to experience someone experienced something and this
is what they were experiencing type of thing, you know.

(54:42):
I just I don't want to be dating a big
one at this point.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Well I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Squatches are very interesting creatures, with one of which I'll
never want to date, piss off, or ever want to interrogate,
because they come off very much so that they could
just take one little pluck with their either their middle finger,
their ring finger, their index finger and their thumb, and
all I gotta do is just turn my head like
a little bit, and that's all they gotta do to

(55:09):
kill me. They're they're straight up there.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
They're they're creatures of their own scent.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
I mean, there's reasons why people have evaded them, Why
when they've chased after them, there's a reason why they've
spared them. There's a reason why the dog would have
done the same. There's all those type of you know,
resource and the reasons. But there's also reasons.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Why people have vanished too.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Now this applies to a question I want to ask you,
because this is actually something I want to ask you earlier,
and this is in reference to what you said about
the whole the grays and the whole cloning. Would you
say that when some of these things get let loose,
or in general, whether it's a cryptid or or something
like a big footed dog man for example, that applies.

(55:52):
Would you say that that applies a lot to a
lot of the missing people. Now, this is a very
popular question, but I've never asked you this question before, Brian.
I figure I get your intake on it, because you've
always you've had a lot of very interesting information up
until this point as well, so I wanted to ask
you this question preferably as well.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
Okay, Well, here's the thing. Being a researcher for this long,
I'm constantly re evaluating my research based off of personal
experience and also reevaluate based off of third second party
and third party experience. So that would be a buddy

(56:33):
of yours at second and then third party. Is we
heard it on Vic's show, I heard it on Josh's show,
I heard it on Bob's show. I heard it on
this show. You know, so you got to you got
to keep all these things out there right in relationship

(56:54):
to like what's going on with with with with with stuff.
But from my own person experience and what really sealed
it was in twenty fifteen, we had a day night
investigation and basically there was the investigation considered started off
with with with a big foot encounter might be encrypted,

(57:15):
went into a UFO experience, went into missing time, went
into a time warp, and it still messes around with
you right now. But what it was where I was
going with this is we had a bigfoot that that
approached us several different times to get us away from

(57:36):
this one area. We didn't we didn't leave. We stood
our ground. You know. It tried to bluff charge us,
try to you know, like make enough noises scare us
to get out of there. We just stood our ground.
It got pissed off and it did this whoop boop woop,

(57:57):
consistent boom boom boom. Here's the The two whoops were
as close as close can be, no more than twenty
feet from each one, you know, for me and the
other guys that were there, I felt that in my soul.
That's how loud it was. And I always say, you
ever go to a concert and you feel the base
and then but after like six songs in, you don't
even feel the bass anymore. You just become level with it.

(58:19):
That's what it's like. The third whoop was two miles
down the road, at the end of the lake. In
an instant in the pitch black down, a goat trail
can't happen. And it was at that moment I realized
that these creatures are not just flesh and blood like
we are. They have the ability to alter their molecular

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structure but technically go inter dimensional, so they can open
up a portal at any point in time go into
the portal and come out where they want to come out.
So when people go missing, like missing four one one,
you got to consider and if you take statistics, and
you know, there's always going to be a percentage of

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the population that are cannibals, there's always going to be
a percentage of the populations that are rapists. There always
be you know. I mean, like there's so many little
different things here. So I think some of the missing
stuff is because people want to go missing for whatever reason.
No one loves me, I committed a crime, whatever, Okay,

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But you know, I just think these people are are
going into dimensional and when they're there, some of them
are seeing these beings because it's like it's like going
into a train station. And I use Grand Central station
that's in New York City. Everybody, if you know, I
don't know who's paying attention to it that you know

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where you're from, but it's a main local port. It's
like a bus stop. And when you pull into the
bus stop and you do it on a regular basis,
the same time, say you know whatever, and the same
people start coming and from you know, three or four
buses around you, you start to remember who the Oh,
that guy's going to Connecticut, that guy's going to Jersey,

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this guy's going you know whatever. Somehow, you know, you just
pay attention. You've seen them enough doing it enough, you know, like, oh,
you know, and you recognize people even though you've never
talked to him. Or's that next to time on the train? Okay,
people get abducted and they go into dimensional and they're
taking some spaces. They've had conversations with Bigfoot, they know

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where they come from, you know, they're they're just watching.
It's it's just par for the court. It's like being
in Grand Central Station. So there's there's a multitude of
things taking place regarding the missing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
It's definitely a topic I would love to talk with
you about for a future episode when it's more or
less that topic of that, because there's so many different
things we can get into. But we're gonna be running
out of time too, and of course with the time
the restraints, you know, if we're both looking at each other,
I don't want to hold you up with too much time,
but I do want to go ahead and ask you
a few more questions before we wrap this gig up,

(01:01:08):
you know, alluding to the Missing four and one, and
of course talking about everything Bigfoot in all the Yeah seriously, Yeah, no, dude,
you have to and listen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
I'll tell you what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
One of the amazing qualities when you're doing expositions or
doing discussions on this type of stuff is just trying
to show the generosity and the respect of these type
of fields. And as a researcher, I think one of
those things that's been very outdated is trying to show
sincerity without shying to go into a field of recognition

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or a field of bs. And it's been seen a
lot lately. I'm not saying it's you. I'm not saying,
you know, it's anybody of our flock or any of
that nature that we've talked about prior to doing the
record button. But it is a certain percentage, you know,
like you said, at certain percentage of rapists out there,
are certain percentage of cannibals. You know, there's always a
certain percentage of narcisists out there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yeah, I heard them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
I've seen them big time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
But for the research aspect of a lot of this
stuff too, do you think we'll get an actual definitive
answer on anything, whether it's UFOs, whether it's cryptids, whether
it's paranormal, or it's always just going to be one
big giant convolution.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Now, I think with the with the advancements of quantum
UH theory in quantum physics, we will come to a
point where all these these these innocent questions, these questions
that have have have challenged us for ages, get answered.

(01:02:50):
And you're going to be blown away by how simple
it was. And I was talking to Ron Moorehead and
Ron Moorehead the Sierra Sounds and about he recorded them
Pacific Northwest and basically it's it proved that Bigfoot, Sascotch

(01:03:12):
Bigfoot have a dialect and language, a real language that
they're speaking. It's not made up shit, it's real. Just
a significant contribution to this community, just as much as
any anthropologist or you know, geneticist or whatever huge thing.

(01:03:32):
And I was I was talking to Ron because he
wrote a book called Quantum Bigfoot. If you want to
read a great book, get Quantum Bigfoot. Ron Moorehead. I'm
begging you because stuff that I studied is in there.
And I was able to ask him a couple of

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questions about this this. You know, I believed Sasquatch. I
believe after the experience I had at that lake, that
this creature has the ability to go interdimensional. It can
convert its energy into any form of energy and then
got into a different dimension. And within this dimension it
meets other creatures that have the same ability. It's an

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innate ability. They've been doing it and they don't know
how they do it. They just do it. Just like
if I said to anybody listening to the show, well
tell me how you breathe. Well, I just breathe, Yeah,
but how do you know how to breathe? It's an
innate ability. And when you see these light orbs coming

(01:04:39):
from these big you know, near bigfoots, and you're thinking, oh,
it's UFOs. They must be pets of UFOs. Wrong. What
happens is this is the fun part about studying physics science.
When you have energy and convert energy to a new
form of energy, there's always want. It takes more energy

(01:04:59):
to convert into different form two. There's always a point
where it pops. You get like a spark, and then
it's converted into that form of energy. That is what
you're seeing at these bigfoot sightings. Right. So this is
what's going on there, and every time it converts into

(01:05:19):
another it's it's an easy way to get out of
a situation. This is why they can use it as camouflage.
They know how to ramp up the energy enough so
they can get that that Arnold Schwartzen Nigga predator. Look,
you know, come on, you know they get that going
because they're manipulating. They're they're there their essence. If to

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understand human beings are made up, we're electricity, We're we're
a form of of energy. And if we use more
than the percentage of brain we're using, I'm sure we
will be able to levitate, we'd be able to probably
you know, I mean convert our energy into different forms
or go through molecular different forms of energy. So I

(01:06:07):
think what we're gonna have is with quantum mechanics and
quantum physics, it's gonna explain how this is taking place.
It's doing it right now. We're not doing it in
this country. There's a lot of countries like Russia's really
doing some great experiments over there. They're scientists quantum wise,
they're able to move objects from point A to point

(01:06:29):
B through point A to point b like physically through
like solid objects and the same objects there. And I
think we're gonna get to a point when we will
develop something called the quantum filter, and you'll be able
to put that on your camera and take pictures and
see the bigfoots that are in front of you. Not

(01:06:50):
only do you see the bigfoots in front of you,
but you're gonna see you'll see apparitions like family members,
guardian angels, because it's going to take it's going to
take that frequency and convert it so that it's visible
at that point and totally going to change your life.

(01:07:12):
One change your life. You know, that'll be the answer
for everything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
It's definitely the tip of the iceberg that we're yet
to expect, but pretty soon, who knows, we'll see what
we'll have to see down the road, you know, Brian,
in our conversation tonight, a lot of interesting discussions and
so many future discussions. I mean, I have so many
questions for another episode we can definitely do down the road,
but to go on a limb with this episode, you know,

(01:07:40):
I want to ask you one final thing, and this
is always something I've asked everybody and ever since I've
really got into the whole VFBF stuff my podcast, and
it's a question I think it should always be asked.
It's basically advice that you should give out to those
who are enthusiasts, those who are looking into this field,
who are brand new, who want to get a good
head on a bunch of stuff. Do you have advice

(01:08:02):
for anybody out there listening into the show right now,
anybody who is looking for anything particular, Hell, it might
even be an eyewitness.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Oh well, we're getting into like this some of your
little little areas of advice at all. What you just said.
If you're gonna investigate, don't go alone. Investigate with at
least a partner. It's a safety and security issue. You're
gonna get into some situations where you may not be
able to get out unless you have someone going for help,

(01:08:31):
you know, So I always recommend you going with somebody
that you trust and as you're back and you have
their back. I highly recommend that you be a person
of faith, even a little bit of faith, because there's
a lot of evil in this world and you need
to protect yourself. And it's really good to start protecting

(01:08:53):
yourself before you go on investigation and when you come
off the investigation as far as eyewitnesses, and well, don't
believe all these podcasters. Okay, there are people that you're
gonna hear and they've got big names. Now have you

(01:09:14):
gotten big or remember when there were nobodies? And you
know they're spreading a lot of the bs that's out there.
And just be careful who you're a fanboy of or
a fangirl of, because once you get a taste of
money with YouTube and YouTube residuals, whatever, they'll start saying

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stuff that's one untrue, but they'll make it sound good.
So that's for the most part as far as getting
an eyewitness, depends on the situation.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Good advice and I think everybody should be listening in
on that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Well, Brian, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Before we go ahead and tee off for the night,
and of course, just so you know, between you and me,
stay on for a couple more minutes after we go
ahead we do the conclusion, just to talk for a
couple of minutes. But with that being said, Brian, before
we go ahead and conclude the show tonight, can you
please do me a quick favor and can you please
promote all of your work. We'd love to have all

(01:10:19):
of your credentials down for the count for people to
take a look at as well. I'll leave these down
description for everybody, so Brian not further ado. The floor
is yours to promote everything you got from the podcast
to anything literature, anything upcoming projects.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Fire away sure.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
So you can catch me on a podcast. It's my own.
It's on Inside the Goblin Universe. That's the show and
it's also what we call the network. That show Inside
the Goblin Universe is with Ron Murphy, the Crypto Guru.
I do another show called No Bo Boo Me, which
stands for Nobody but Me. I haven't done that in

(01:10:58):
a bet because I've experienced a lot of death due
to the COVID thing. It's hit hard and I'm going
to be starting up that show again. But i also
have another show that I'm going to be starting soon
as well, to be announced, but it's going to be
something very interesting regarding your third eye. On top of that,

(01:11:21):
if you want to see me a lot heavier and
on TV, I was in the show with Cliff Simon
Colt Into the Unknown. I'm in the Jersey Devil episode
as the cryptozoologist, which I am. I've been in on
Discovery Channel as well on Alien Invasion, Hudson Valley UFO,

(01:11:44):
as well as season two of UFO Witness Too, which
is always you know, these people are great and other
than that podcast wise, besides Noble Boomy and Inside the
Goblin Universe, I was honored to be asked to be
a permanent co host. I'm on a great podcast. It

(01:12:04):
takes place every Wednesday night. It's called Three Beards Podcast,
and it's just a fun show. These guys are really
really great. A lot of respect for him and love
being on the show. So and actually I was talking
about something that I was being interviewed and Craig, who
is the main you know guy for Three Beards, for

(01:12:24):
the most part, he goes just blew me away. It
was so fascinating. I want to have you want to
interview you. I'm like, well, just just go interview me
if you want to know more, you know, And I'm
on a variety of different shows whatever. I'm very approachable.
So if you if you hear something you want to
have questions, you know, just tell me, hey, I heard

(01:12:45):
it on this show or you with Chris and I
want to ask you this. I'm on everything, so that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
You heard it here, ladies and gentlemen, Brian, thank you
so much. Man, it's been a pleasure speaking with you.
I'll have you on for future episodes.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
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