February 25, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Adam and Ethan with the Viewing Room here.
We are hosting a live Oscars watch party on Sunday,
March second, at five point thirty pm.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
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We'll have some interesting food and stuff, movie trivia, movie trivia, Yeah,
and we'll hopefully just kind of get you live reactions,
talk about the movies, whether we like it or disagree
or whatever the winners are, and have a good time.
Hopefully nobody gets slapped.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
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Underscore or updates and more.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And now time for the Viewing Room with Adam and Eton.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Welcome to the UNI Room. Where were talking about films
new and old, local and global. Today we're talking about
Toy Story, which released November twenty second, nineteen ninety five.
A lot of Grid movies in nineteen ninety five. We
talked about this in our one episode What was it?
What episode was it? The seven episode, That's what it was.
Came out nineteen ninety five, and we were talking about
(01:25):
how that wasn't the number one grossing movie. Toy Story
was the second highest grossing movie of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You had some trivia on that for me, not trivia,
but it was get a bit of a guessing game.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, so budget of thirty million grossed three hundred and
seventy three million, which made it number two to I
heard three. I heard three gross more than Toy Story.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's said.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I know, that's a tough swall. That's a Toy Story swall.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
This is an important thing about Toy Story in my opinion,
is that I don't think the movie was what they
intended to be their main moneymaker.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Is.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I feel like where they intended to make them.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, a lot of the toys in Toy Story were
already in production, aside from I think Rex was the
only one that wasn't actually in production. But there's also
a lot of Hasbarro Mattel toys that are technically based
in and around certain characters. So that's an interesting point. Now,
this is Pixar's first film, I should throw that out there.
(02:25):
I don't actually think they could have predicted it would
be as big as a success as it actually was
in my opinion. I'm not a financial expert, but given
the fact it was the studio's first ever film and
the first ever computer generated film ever in the history
of the world, that probably had something. Now, Vertigo was
the first ever movie to use CGI, this one was
(02:47):
the first start to finish all CGI. Yeah, we'll get
into that, but there we go.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Toy Story, And I mean, you can tell, like the
animation is definitely mid nineties animation, but it doesn't matter,
you know, it honestly doesn't matter that much.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I read a lot of reviews people being like, oh,
the animation is so aged and dated, and I don't
actually feel like the animation is super dated, at least
not on the TV, like on my TV, Like it
looked really good on Disney Plus or whatever. The worst
part about it is the character design.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, and and and Sid looks the same and their
eyes and yeah, it's like the toys are fantastically well done,
but yeah, the kids are a little bit odd.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And I think if they were going to put their
budget into something, what is more important how Andy looks for,
how Woody work, what looks well. It's called Toy Story
for exactly and so I don't think it really matters
that much and it doesn't take me out of the film.
It takes me out of the film a bit, especially
when you realize that all the kids at the birthday
party are the same the same character model, just with
(03:56):
like a different hat.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, pretty weird.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But well, listen, I think that they did the toy
soldiers right, they did Ham right, they did they did Rex. Yes,
everything is that is perfect. It doesn't look dated. I
mean there's sometimes where you see some of the characters
interact in the background and they're not doing certain things
that you'd see maybe now that make the world a
(04:20):
bit more full.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But also I mean, like you said, this is mid
nineties CGI, like they didn't have the processing.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Powered exactly well exactly, there's no hair no, I mean
Andy's mom has wears a ponytail. But like, yeah, they
didn't have the same technology like they did when they
made Monsters, Inc. With all of individual hairs on Selly right,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And that's that's such an interesting point too, is like
a lot of the times, the ideas for these things
are there, but the technology is what lacks. Like there
was people that had the basic idea for neural networks,
like when computers were still the size of you know,
three garages, they just didn't have the processing power to
act on that.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
On those ideas, it was the same thing with DNA evidence.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Right when something like that. A lot of unsolved cases,
even even back a hundred years ago, had DNA evidence
collected and stuff because they're like, oh, one day we'll
be able to use this.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Boom, look at that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Thirty years later, all of a sudden they had like
a little sperm sample or something that was like figured out,
and they're like, whoa.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Would you look at that?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Right? And so I think it's always going to be
something like that, right, Like I think we were dreaming
about going to space even before airplanes were a thing,
you know what I mean? Right? And sorry whatever airplanes
came before, you get what I mean? Yeah, And I
think that's I think that, Yeah, that's a good point.
And I think that's probably one of the reasons why
this did win a Technical Achievement award at the OSCARS
(05:40):
kind of a special award, not a Best Picture or
anything like that, but it did get a technical achievement, right,
And I think a lot of that goes down to
John lassiter is his direction, and then l just the
future of Xar and what.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Would be now. I mean, Pixar intro is iconic. Anytime
you hear that, like you know what it is?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a really bad impression on
my or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But yeah, no you hear it. You know you know picture?
I mean yeah, picture has become my chronic And.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I recall being probably nine years old and having a
nightmare with a picture of lamp brushed me. That's not
a joke. That's really not kind of funny, but it's
not a joke. I'm actually being serious. And I used
to have this reoccurring nightmare. Maybe I should say this
for our Cars episode when we do Cars one of
my favorite childhood movies. I watched that movie so many times,
(06:36):
and I can still smell how the DVDs smelt like.
Isn't that just a weird thing? Like I still remember
the smell when you'd open up the case and and
like the weird plasticy smell and shit and so much
the point where we had to buy another disc because
it was so scratched up because of how much I
watched it. But uh, I just remember having these vivid
dreams at night where the Frank that combine would be
(06:58):
chasing me in my sleep and I'd have to hide
under like cupboards in my house and he like bursts
through my house trying to find me. And it was
like really crazy. These really weird plots too, where like
every like once a week or something, at like five pm,
if you weren't indoors and we're outside, Frank would like
eat you or something. Right, And so if you like
(07:19):
heard the sound of a siren at like four fifty nine,
you know, you'd have to run inside or hide in
some bushes otherwise Frank was gonna find you. And then
you'd see him like going on the streets and stuff,
and there's like this big combine and I just I
don't know what the heck was going on in my brain.
Does this sound like I'm trauma dumping? It kind of
sounds like I'm trauma dumping on the all of the show.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, it's just you know, interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, this is like a real thing, Like I'm not
like I'm not joking. You know the scene in Cars
where like lighting McQueen has that nightmare about Frank catching him. Yeah,
like that was like the same exact thing that was
happening to me, like and it would be like real life,
in real life, all my family's real life, all that stuff.
Actually I would never see other people in these dreams.
(08:02):
It was just me and Frank. So it was like
more like a like a Twilight Zone type ship, but
like Frank was animated like cartoons, not like an actual combine.
So so like it was like Frank from cars and
everything else is real life. Like if you just like
took a jpeg of Frank and and like.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You didn't like get into the drugs at a young age.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, my dad like to have these frozen brownies, right.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Joking, I'm joking joking, no, but.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
No, no, it was I'm actually I'm actually being like
dead serious, like I couldn't make something like that up,
like like genuinely, you know. And and it was one
of my favorite movies. And so this is one of
my favorite movies. But and I'm embarrassed to say how
long those nightmares went on for, like and it wasn't
like an every night thing. It would be like every cup,
like every five months it would happen, so like I
(09:06):
was like and then like like and then it's just
some you're.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Gonna have one of those nightmares tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now, dude, I kind of want to go back there,
you know what I mean. I like, I kind of
want to go back and like say hw to Frank,
see what he's doing. But yeah, it was like I'm
I'm like dead ass, like telling you like that actually happened.
And anyways, do you have any other traumatic stories you
want to share?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
No, I'm good. You didn't have any nightmares about that? No,
dang man, I.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Didn't watch Cars enough for that. Like I watched it. It
was good, but I didn't watch it enough for that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And it wasn't like nightmares where I'd wake up in
a cold sweat, actually I would like it wasn't like
one of those nightmares where you like, you gotta go
tell your parents that you had a nightmare, you know
what I mean, Because it was so scary. I would
just like wake up and be like, oh my god,
and then I just like go back to bed, you
know what I mean. And it would always end with
Frank Fry finding me. I'd either wake up before Frank
(10:04):
found me, or Frank would find me and right before
he was about to run me over, I'd wake up,
which is just I have goosebumps, Like literally I have
goosebumps right now just talking about it because like it's
just so weird. Hm. Anyways, there you go. Maybe that
should be a Patreon exclusive. Maybe that should be like
I'll say that again in the Car's episode when we
(10:26):
do cars one.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Thing, All right, let's let's do it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Let's tell yeah, you do the synopsis on your phone
because I put mine's on the charger. Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I was just gonna put this on vibrate while you
did that. But I can do this.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh my god, dude, I can't believe I shared that
with the world.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Okay, you're ready. Yeah. Woodie played by Tom Hanks, a
good hearted cowboy doll who belongs to a young boy
named Andy played by John Morris. Jesus position is Andy's
favorite toy, jeopardized when his parents buy him a bu
was light Year played by Tim Allen, action figure. Even worse,
the arrogant Buzz thinks he's a real spaceman on a
mission to return to his home planet. When Andy's family
(11:08):
moves to a new house, Woody and Buzz must escape
the touches of maladjusted neighbor Sid Phillips played by Eric
Undton and reunite with their boy.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Nice so toy story. I guess what, like probably when
some people would say one of like the the most
classic Disney Pixar films ever and one of the best.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
No, you know where I was going, Yeah, yeah, no,
As I said to you, I feel like there was
a generation of kids, myself included, where everywhere you went,
whether it was a summer camper or before and aftercare
program or whatever it was, there was a lot I.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Was playing it.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
It was a huge movie, one of the biggest, but like, honestly,
I feel like they were always just it was always there,
and so like I didn't watch it like through a lot,
but between all watching you know, half hour sections there
and like here and there, Like I've seen this movie
dozens and dozens of times.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And I mean I've watched it through too, but.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
For sure, and I would agree that I've seen it
a lot, It's not as special to me as it
is other people. I think, like I said, a film
like Cars is definitely way more special to me.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But I wouldn'tven say it's specially just say it's nostalgic,
like you know, just all the scenes. I'm like oh,
I remember watching this. Oh I remember this. Oh I
remember that, you know, mm hmm, like for toy story.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, yeah, but I think it's it's different for everyone, right,
And I guess you know, technically this movie came out
before we were born, but like, yeah, there's a lot
of movies that I think we grew up with that
came out before us.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I mean, the other important thing with this one is
good for kids. It's great, but I mean there's so
many references that adults can tolerated too, right, Like, I
mean you can see it, like you said, this Pixar's
first movie. You see, right from the beginning that was
their thing, you know, like all the references and what.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
There's one line where Rex says like he wants like
a vegetarian dinosaur or something like that, so he could
be a dominant alpha.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Right, like the dominant type dinostaic.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
He was like what, Well, I looked at me like
spat on my ic.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I was like, what, you don't notice that as a
kid out, Like, I don't remember any of those references
and all this stuff with bo Like I don't remember
any of that, Like, I mean, you know, as a kid,
you have a rudimentary understanding that oh, they're in love,
but you don't know anything more than that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Like, yeah, exact.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And then as an adult, like I was laughing a
lot because of that.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I'm laughing at a certain point. I'm like, I feel
like accosted in a way that right, like twelve twelve
year old me, like seven year old me was sitting
there listening to this and I didn't know what was
going on. I feel like I was betrayed.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But it also speaks to the genius of their writing, yea,
that they're able to do that, Like they're able to
walk that line.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And it's not and it's not perceived in a creepy
way where they're like, oh, this is really creepy and
and horny and getting over the kids' heads. No, it's
more like it's kind of just it's charming more like
in a way. Right, it doesn't come off as creepy because.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's a probably more fun for them to see O
caalcuny hide these little little jokes.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's more calculated, you know what I mean. And it
doesn't come across as super edgy or launchy or anything
like that. It's it's calculated and it's it's still respectful
in a way, I think, and that's why I feel
like there is a lot of generational humor that you
could look at.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I think this is a lot of people's like
favorite Pixar movie. It's not mine, No, but I think
it's really good.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, it's good. The Solid movie, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Shall we go through a plot? Yeah, a little quick plot, Okay, Woodie,
he's a toy. We learned in the world that basically
toys can come to life when their owners being kids,
are done playing with them, right, Like, they kind of
come to life and kind of when their kid is back.
You know, they play dead essentially so that the kid
(15:16):
can play with them and have adventures and then you know,
they can all talk and do things. What. He's the
leader of this group of toys who belong to Andy, right,
And so we learned that Andy is going to be
moving away in one week's time, and the toys are
basically finding movie buddies getting ready to pack up and go, right.
But then all of a sudden, Andy's birthday party happens, right, And.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So it happens a week early because they don't want
to do it during.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
The move exactly, and so all these kids come, some
of the kids get him bed sheets. I think there's
a really funny joke there where him's like.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Man, who invited that kid? Yeah right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, yeah, oh man. It was just really funny. And
the synopsis it said Andy's parents got him the buzz
light Year.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, it's only his mom that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And also I don't think that was a gift from
his mom. I think buzz Lightyear. I thought a buzz
Lightyer came from one of the other kids at the
birthday party.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't think it says. I think it's oh there's
one more here that they that they almost forgot about. Okay,
I think that's what it is, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, I just I just, I mean, it really doesn't matter.
It's just technicality on the synopsis. Well, it's not parents,
it's mom. And also did it actually come from his mom?
Like that's kind of up in the air. So, I mean,
if if the filmmakers wrote it, I guess, then yeah, yeah,
they probably know better, I would hope. So, but we
(16:41):
find out that it's this buzz Lightyear action figure h
toy or he has like deployable wings. He has a laser.
He has a voice box laser, a laser that has
a light. You know, it's funny enough. I had a
Woody toy and my brother had a buzz light your
toy when you're growing up, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And I believe I had a buzz light Year as well.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's funny because I don't remember ever being jealous that
my brother had a buzz light Year and I had
a Woody. I was just like really like freaking stoked
to hang out with Woody all day. But I like,
even now, I'm kind of like I probably would have
been more jealous now than I was when I was
like eight, because I was like, hold on a second,
I kind of got scammed there. Why do my parents
give me.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
The Woody do That's not that's not fair.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
At his strings that reach for the stars, and he
had deployable wings. That's not even fair at all. Like
even now, I feel hurt, Like I'm gonna make a
call to my mom. Can he pauses? I gotta like,
just like call my mom, Oh my good lord, let's
do it. I don't have my phone on me.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I'm gonna do it. On the show.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I'm hi. You're on the viewing room, say hi. You
know I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Just say hi.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Adam's here, Okay. I wanted to ask you a question.
What Okay, So you know the movie toy story. Why
is a dog working?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know the movie toy story? Okay, So when we
were growing up, right, I had a Woody. I had
a woody toy, right, and I really liked whatody. We
even wrote my initials on the bottom of his shoe,
and and he had the string and we pulled him
right and I don't even know what happened to him, right,
but you remember that, right, okay? And Cale had a
(18:27):
buzz light year. Yeah. So I was just thinking, like
when I was eight, that was really cool that I
had a witty and Kale had a buzz But now
that I think about it, that wasn't really fair, now,
was it. Kale's buzz Lighty is so much cooler than Woody.
He can like have a laser and like deploy his
(18:51):
but but like he had like he had a laser
and deployable wings and a face mask. Well did him
hear me? Why did my Woody Like like you could
take off his hat, you could take off his hat
and pull his string. But like, like, come on, I
wasn't jealous when I was eight, but I'm kind of
(19:12):
jealous now. What's up with that? You know, the only
thing you canlud get a light here. I can't afford
that in this economy. Okay, well, thanks mom. I just
wanted you to know that I'm traumatized now and I did. Yeah,
(19:34):
I just like I realized when I was eight, I
was fine, but now and I realized, like the buzz
Lightyer is actually cooler than Woody. That was kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Did you record your episode?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
We're recording right now. Yeah, yeah, this is going in.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Oh my god, okay, goodbye.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Exactly as well as I thought I would. She said
he was cooler than me, and that's why he added, Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Hey, I'm gonna have to agree with that man.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That hurts. Anyways, buzz Lightyer comes. He takes over as
like the head haun show wood He's like the sheriff
of the town. But uh, buzz Light here is kind
of like the cool new toy, so we see Andy
kind of evolved. He kind of tosses Woody aside, who
used to be his favorite toy, and and buzz is
(20:31):
like hot shit, now, you know what I mean. Yeah,
he has a buzz light, your bed sheets, you know
his Space Ranger paintings and stuff plastered over Woody paintings.
It's pretty intense and wood He feels a little bit
left out right. So Woody, I never realized how bad,
how much of a bad guy would he.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Actually he is a bit of a bad guy for
the first half.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, Like I just like kind of was like cool
story man, I love you Woody when I was eight,
but like rewatching it like start to finish, like as
an adult, you're like, WHOA hold on a second, this
guy actually really isn't a very good guy. Attempted murder
charges yeah, possibly even manslaughter intent. Right, we can go
into an illegal court.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
We always him to do this, you know, uh, your honor,
my client, you can you see, he was merely trying
to regain his spot as top dog, and the fact
that the toy was not alive to begin with means
that there is no case for manslaughter. Here is the
toy was never alive to begin with.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
He took out his batteries, he took a screwdriver, and
he put in double E's do you have anything to
say for yourself to infinity and beyond.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Okay, now we sound like we're on crackofter story, so
well aren't we.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Isn't that what the white powder we started before this
show was?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Oh man, okay, I didn't get my train of thought back.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What yes, what he's actually kind of a bad guy?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, but he's actually kind of a bad guy. He
tries to kill Buzz and it doesn't quite work, but
Woody kind of gets exiled for for well, actually sorry,
they think he killed Buzz. He didn't actually kill Buzz.
But when he gets exiled, he's like, wait, guys, I
wasn't actually trying to kill him, which maybe you can
(22:20):
say he's trying to knock him off the bed. Would
that have killed him? Probably not, no toy, but like
interesting to think, like was would he actually trying to
kill him? Hmm? Anyways, they kind of banish Woody for
being a murderer, and then he realizes that like, oh wait,
Buzz is a lot we have to like bring we
(22:43):
have to go back to Andy and like the rest
of the toys and be like, yo, Buzz light years
actually alive. Guys, We're fine, Everything's cool. Whatever, and he
comes in the room. He grabs Woody because he can't
find Buzz, and he heads off to Pizza Planet, right,
which is like a big arcade Chuck e Cheese type thing.
You know, Buzz is alive still, he follows pursuit, gonna
(23:08):
have a scuffle Woodie and Buzz. The end up getting
the Pizza Planet. Like at kidnapped by Sid, who's like
the evil kid next door. And and now Woody and
Buzz are trapped with an actual kid who murders toys
and like, okay, actually.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Forgot about the aliens. Those are some of my.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Claw. That claw, yeah, that's pretty cool. The claw.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, I'm gonna take those and layer them all together claw.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Sid dismembers toys. He like takes heads off of some
and puts them on the other experiments he does like something, yeah, okay,
you know what, to be fair, I mean, he doesn't
know they're alive.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That's the thing, right, Like and I mean like I
remember doing like similar things, not like not like with
explosives and stuff, but like, you know, my thing as
a kid was always taking things apart, Like I would
always take things apart.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
He looks at the explosive and he goes heap out
of reach of children.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
All right, right, Like that would literally be if I
got my hands on that, right, Yeah, Like I feel
like he's not that bad, Like they portray him as
the evil kid, and sure, like the explosives and the
burning ash er, maybe's a little bit psychotic, but like.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, it would be normal that he was just doing
that to have fun and be like, oh, like look
at this cool thing I made. All right, well, I
can get behind that. What instead, what he does is
like sleep tight.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
He's like doctor Evil, like he's.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Doing it for psychotic reasons.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, the things he's doing, I feel like if they
were portrayed in a different way, wouldn't be Like I.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Think there's a logic flaw here because you can see
some of the toys have different arms and stuff like that.
Now mister potato Head and Missus potato Head can like
wear each other's parts, you know what I mean. But
it's not like when you put mister Potatohead's eyes on
Missus potato Head, he now controls Missus potato Head. So
for some reason, some of the toys like they change
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who they're actually animating, which breaks the logic, you know,
what I mean, in my opinion, does that make sense
to you? Like you have the heads of some people
on the other people, but they're like actually controlling you
they were originally You're like, wait, hold on a second.
If you put Woody's head on Buzz's body and technically
(25:45):
would he be just Buzz with a Woody head. But
there's some of the toys that are like not that,
which is like, yeah, I know what now, maybe that
just makes it look more deranged or maybe like I
was just gonna say, it's almost like that's just there
brushing it off. As you know, he's evil and you
managed to figure out a mad scientist way of doing it.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Again, it's an animated Pixar movie.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yes, we can't.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
We can't read with toys that come alive. We can't
read too much into it.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Like because we established that the dolls can talk and
Toy Story three, but none of the dolls can talk
in this movie. Yeah, but they can all move, but
they can't talk. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I'm not going to go through the logic of a
movie where toys come to life in the middle of
the night to hold meetings about moving buddies.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yeah, I'm not okay, let's not do it. Sure, okay,
threw it? What proves that you don't care?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I don't care?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That was worth Uh. I completely lost my train of
thought like ten minutes ago.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Fun fact I read I saw an interview the other day.
Tom Hanks was talking about Woody and how his brother
actually does all the voicing stuff for Woody now for
all like the toys and the commercials and anything that
has him in it, because there's so much of it
and he's just too busy, so he actually get pays
his brother to go and do him for him.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's kind of funny. H that's kind of.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Fun you know what, that's clever.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, what's While you were talking about the role of
of Woodie, we can talk about Buzz. Billy Crystal was
actually originally offered to play Buzz light Year, but he
refused and obviously Tim Allan got it and he said
at that point in his career that was the biggest
mistake in his life. But John Lassiter called him up
(27:47):
when they were shooting Monsters, Inc. Asked to speak with him.
The first thing, So the uh, the first thing Billy
Crystal said when he got the call from John was yes.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, I'm not making that mistake again. He didn't, he didn't,
He didn't even hear what it was.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
He said, yes, I'll do it, and and that was
the role of Mike Wazowski and Monsters, Inc. And now
they've done two or three of those, or at least
two movies and a bunch of shows and shorts and stuff,
and he never made that mistake again, which I think, Uh,
maybe the Toy Story franchise is a bit more of
a bigger commercial success. But I don't think Monsters Monsters Inc.
(28:24):
Did that bad either, you know what I mean. I
don't think any of these movies are are really failing
at the box office than anything, right, And I think
oh Man didn't inside out to become like another big success.
Wasn't that one of the highest on the Oscars list
for this year? It must be?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, I think it. I think it's on there for
at least one. I only went through and put it
through every single nomination in a spreadsheet for our awesome
Oscars Live Watch party coming on March.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Second, Yes, which would be this Saturday, maybe Sunday, this
Sunday anyways, so SIDS can nap the toys. We kind
of realize that, Okay, Sid's probably gonna be killing these
guys if they don't get out soon. Now, overlooking Andy's house,
(29:13):
which is next door of Sid, what, he can see
the other toys, But Buzz is super depressed because I
fail to kind of talk about this earlier. Buzz believes
he's a real space Ranger, but eventually he comes to
learn that he is actually just a toy, and based
on a TV commercial, he realizes that, like, wait, I'm
(29:36):
not an actual space ranger. I'm like a mass produced
like toy.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
My favorite one of my favorite scenes is from Is
It two or Is It three? Whichever one where they
actually go to Al's toy barn, Yeah two, and he
walks down the aisle of all the Buzzes and then
he gets kidnapped and thrown in the box and they
have to try and figure out which buzz is which.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yes, that that is.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I love that scene, like honestly, Toy Story two, I
love it more than Toy Story one. Yeah, And but
I don't know that that scene just reminded me of
that for some reason.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I always I always like to Story two to.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Story two. Yeah, coming to stories near you for a
limited time.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You know, Woody is it's pretty adamant to Buzz without
the story that you're a toy. But but Buzz doesn't
believe me. He doesn't really know what he's talking about. He's like, no,
I'm an intergalactic space ranger and and what he's like,
you are a toy, which I whatever. It's farty, great line.
(30:47):
And and Buzz finally realizes this, and he's kind of
like he's almost ready to die.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
He's like he's giving up completely.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
He's just melodramatic to depressed.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
He's kind of like his mission is like will never
be complete, which is interesting because I guess all these
Buzzes come pre programmed with different missions almost and to
free the planet from Zurg or whatever, so.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Which is kind of yeah, which I find so funny
because the is the enemy in the StarCraft game series.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, but his dad is I think it's right.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I think it's something like that.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Whatever. I think that's explored more and toy start too. Anyways,
So unfortunately for Woody, Buzz can't prove to the other
toys in Andy's room that that he's actually alive. So
wood he has to we use one of Buzz's arms
that have been torn off and like try and proof
(31:52):
to all the other toys that Buzz is actually alive,
and then they see that.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I don't find funny, or what I find funny is
why doesn't he just get hold on? Guys all grab
him and like go get Buzz up there? Why does
he need to hurry?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Well, yeah, but if if he can get if he
says hold on and they wait for him to go
get his arm, then he can just go down there
and get his freakin I don't know, I don't know,
I whatever put his arm back in his socket and
then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, but anyways, Buzz Super Expresso Dpresso decides finally that okay,
he can be a space ranger, so he'll help Wood
he escape and get back to Andy's room before moving day.
But Sid has other plans. He takes the toys, he
kidnaps them. He's gonna launch a rocket, but all the
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toys decide to come to life to Sid and scare
the crap out. It said, be like, hey, listen, like
we're gonna like hunt you down and hunt you for
the rest of your days. If you don't start playing
nights with us, traumatize the sid, he runs away, They
free Buzz. Then Andy starts to move, and so now
they have to chase down the movie moving truck. Basically,
(33:02):
when he gets to a moving truck, I have to
basically try and help him and all the toys starts
to reject what he because he's a murderer, but then
they realize, oh wait, what he's actually trying to help
us and whatever. Eventually, Woody and Buzz the pocket. He
used an explosive rocket that was going to kill Buzz
(33:23):
to instead launch them towards the Uh that sounds like
a pilot to launch them towards the moving truck.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, they're going to launch them towards the ladies and
gentlemen the fight deck.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
This is uh, captain, we'll.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Be ready to push back here shortly, just finishing up
a bit of paperwork and then we'll be on our way.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And that's that's pretty much how I do my podcast.
And and uh, that's the.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
End of the movie.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Right, This is the end of the movie.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
This is basically, if they're all reunited, they all live
happily ever after.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, everybody's happy. Yeah cool.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, And one thing I find interesting. So at the
start he has like you mentioned the woody like bed
sheets or whatever. It's all woody, and then when he
gets buzz, all buzz, and then at the end they
show like there's only one or two shots that show it.
It's the buzz bedspread in a woody pillow.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, it's like he's now like back to the two
of them, which I find cool.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
That's cool. Yeah, I do have some fact.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, let's hear the carpet.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
And Sid's room is the same carpet in the Overlook
Hotel from the Shining kind of give it a horror aspect.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I believe it.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
Also, can we talk about his sleeping buster, like what,
oh that's funny?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'd not do it.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I can't do it. Not that flexible do it? Not
that flexible?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Do it in your chair. I just wanted to see
you do it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
This is a first Pixar movie. But it's also the
shortest Pixar movie.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's not a it's not a long one.
It's like what an hour in a bit?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Ah yeah, I wanted to say it was like eighty minutes. Yeah,
it's not seventy eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Maybe No, one hour and twenty minutes, right, eighty one minutes.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
One minutes? Yeah, okay, cool?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So it is the shortest, you know, Yeah, like I
don't You don't need three hour movies all the time?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Uh, pizza Planet, there's a pizza thing there. Pizza Planet
truck appears in every single Pixar movie.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, it's so cool to watch a breakdown of all
the little cameos in the Pixar in the Pixar universe.
I guess you'd say like they throw different things from
it for movies in all Over, for.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Sure, and little details like that are what make movies
like these want to watch, right, Like, it shows a
little bit of extra care and attention, right, and it'st
that you've probably never even seen unless you go into
New rock Stars or something and have someone else explaining
to you for half an hour. But you know what
I mean, that's special too, right.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
We talked about funny people. In my opinion, are the
weakest part the character. Vany's the weakest part. But is
that a bad thing?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I feel like they don't need to develop in many more.
I feel like if they had spent more time, we'd
add more length in the movie. Let's say, now it's
a ninety minute movie, and they've spent time developing Andy's character,
we've already established that the cgi on the care and
the people isn't great. I don't think we need it. Like, honestly,
it's a story about his toys. It's sort of like
the parents in Charlie Brown, Right, you never hear what
(36:58):
they say. They're not important because it's about the kids.
They're there, we're aware they're there. They have some impact
on the story, but it's not important enough to build them.
And I feel like it's the same thing. It's about
the toys. He's not important in this, And I I agree,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I don't think. I don't think fleshing out extremely in
trick ate stories between Woody and his goals in life
and stuff was super important because I think at the
end of the day, it is the toys story. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Oh, and especially since there's they play dead when he's around.
Yeah huh, they play dead when he's around, right, So
there's not like they can have any interactions really like
direct interactions. And and honestly, it's a kids movie too,
so you don't need to complicate it.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
MM hm, and I think I think it works. I
think with the character models being so crappy, it's kind
of like maybe they wanted to put more of the
budget towards the toy models anyways, which is one hund
the smarter option, right, So I.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Don't know makes sense, Like the toys, Like, okay, well
here's what's what's your favorite toy in this one favorite toy?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, I used to really love the penguinzy. Oh is
that the second?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
The second one? I like too, but that's the second one,
so okay.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
My actual favorite toy is probably their sea car r C. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, I remember when I was younger, I liked Rex.
Rex was my favorite. Oh yeah, Rex is awesome. But
after watching it, I'm like, you know what, the army Men. Honestly,
the army men are my favorite.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yea. They're pretty good to soldiers.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, and like the way they're animated, the walking and like,
you know, the way they act and I don't know
the army man and there's such a small role, but
the army Man are really good. And then Ham has
a lot of funny one liners too.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Ham is good for the army men to walk the
crew to figure out how they would do it, like
nailed or screwed boards into their shoes to walk around
with boards in it to see how the army men
would walk the walking down. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
No, and it's so good, like it looks exactly like
if you if a kid was just h exactly.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I don't know, man, I think, like I said, I
said it was some people said a lot of it
was like super dated, and yeah, some of the character
models dated and stuff like that. But like, I don't
really feel its as dated as some people make it up.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
But I mean the thing is, any movie is going
to be dated eventually. Yeah, I mean the most advanced
CGI from twenty twenty five is going to be dated
in twenty years, right, like, And so I don't think
that's a fair criticism exactly. I don't think.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Because CGI, I get it, CGI can be like bad,
CGI can be a turnoff. Yeah, but I think even
in a lot of modern day movies, it's like I
don't think that should be our primary focus as like
a reviewer is.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I mean, like it's CG. Here's the thing, Like, I mean,
they won an award for how good it was at
the time. Yeah, So I don't think that' that should matter.
Like I said, like when we look at you know,
some of the early special effects from like the fifties,
like where they were using claymation that was you know,
like superimposed into the scenes, Like we look at it
(40:12):
now and like what the hell is this? But then
you think about it in the lens of the of
the fifties when they're making this, and it's like awesome,
holy shit, like Sindbad and some of those movies where
they like play mation skeletons and it's like holy.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know, yeah no. And maybe
it's not the most super intricate story, right Wood. He
goes through a character arc where he tries to kill
Buzz and then he realizes, I guess Buzz isn't as
(40:48):
bad as he odd need and he still cares, and
he's still he realizes Andy still cares about him, so
now he's not gonna kill Buzz. Very interesting, right.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Like, yeah, that one's a bit weak. But at the
same time, it's a kid's story again, you know, like
it doesn't have to be complicated, and and I think
the lesson there is you know, for for the kids
more is like I mean adult adults to a certain extent.
But for the kids, you know, that lesson there is
you know, you don't need to you know, have favorites exactly.
(41:22):
I mean, it's okay to have favorites, but like still acceptance.
Everybody's fine, you know, just because they're maybe not your face.
You know, you can have favorite you know, friends or whatever,
but you still you don't have to be you know,
forget about everybody else.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
I think the larger message is probably about honestly being forgotten,
you know what I mean, and and replaced, right, And
I think that's like a I don't know, I don't think.
I think it's maybe more of a thing when you're
like super like way older, which is something that like
maybe OP would do a better job touching on. But
(41:59):
I do think like even at work or whatever, a
lot of people you feel that way to a certain extent, right,
and maybe they're best friends change or something in their
life changes. So I think I think that's like a
bigger piece of the puzzle. But yeah, like I said,
I don't think it's as as intricate or in depth
(42:19):
as maybe other movies, right, and it doesn't need to be. Yeah,
it's a kids move I don't know, and I don't think. Yeah,
I don't think it's as dated as people make it
out to be. Yeah, the character models are pretty like
but but I mean they got that, they got the
stuff that mattered.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, and I mean they're probably thinking about like you know,
photo realistic and like shadows and stuff. But it's distracting,
right it almost with rage Racingah, right, you don't need it,
you know, like it's good the way it is, and
and yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
And maybe that helps it become more believable. You know.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Well it's almost more like a cartoon in a way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, but like that's what that's what I mean, right,
Like if it was like these guys were all pasted
on top of it, you know what I mean, then
maybe you would feel less whatever. But if the if
the kids themselves feel animated and not ivery realistic, then
maybe it gives viewers a sense of like, okay, like
better said is mentioned a disbelief. Yeah, it's kind of
like in the Polar Express. Actually, the Polar Express is
(43:21):
pretty gnarly with the character's eyes. The eyes and Polar
Express are brutal mad. But I don't know, I got
what I was trying to say, yeah, I guess that's
kind of it.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah for me, really, yeah, I don't have much more.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
We scratched the thing.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah, we rate it and then i'll scratch what do
you read?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Eight eight given any Yeah, I agree, I'll there's like
an eight add ten movie. It's a solid movie. People
enjoy it, kids, adults.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Whatever you want to.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Use my keys, I'll take I'll take your keys any day,
all right? Oh yeah, the post you got for me
for Christmas? For us wherever you want, definitely for us.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
You got a friend in me, You got a friend
in me? Well what is it?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
What is whatdy? And Buzz, Well that's my yourkey's not mine?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (44:25):
And Buzz their hands Buzz got a fist bump and
Wood he's got a finger again. Cool, there we go.
That's our first adjacent one. Oh no, it's not those
two besides each other. And down there oh yeah, down
there too. Apparently I'm blind.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Cool. Cool that sty starts crossed off. We got not
at least another like ninety moves.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
It's mindy some movies to go.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, anyways, that was the Union, Thank you for watching.
That was our review of Boys Story nineteen ninety five.
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Hey, it's Adam and Ethan with the Viewing Room here.
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March second, at five point thirty pm.
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Hopefully nobody gets slapped.
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
And now time for the Viewing Room with Adam and Eton.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Welcome to the UNI Room. Where were talking about films
new and old, local and global. Today we're talking about
Toy Story, which released November twenty second, nineteen ninety five.
A lot of Grid movies in nineteen ninety five. We
talked about this in our one episode What was it?
What episode was it? The seven episode, That's what it was.
Came out nineteen ninety five, and we were talking about
(01:25):
how that wasn't the number one grossing movie. Toy Story
was the second highest grossing movie of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You had some trivia on that for me, not trivia,
but it was get a bit of a guessing game.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, so budget of thirty million grossed three hundred and
seventy three million, which made it number two to I
heard three. I heard three gross more than Toy Story.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's said.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I know, that's a tough swall. That's a Toy Story swall.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
This is an important thing about Toy Story in my opinion,
is that I don't think the movie was what they
intended to be their main moneymaker.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Is.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I feel like where they intended to make them.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, a lot of the toys in Toy Story were
already in production, aside from I think Rex was the
only one that wasn't actually in production. But there's also
a lot of Hasbarro Mattel toys that are technically based
in and around certain characters. So that's an interesting point. Now,
this is Pixar's first film, I should throw that out there.
(02:25):
I don't actually think they could have predicted it would
be as big as a success as it actually was
in my opinion. I'm not a financial expert, but given
the fact it was the studio's first ever film and
the first ever computer generated film ever in the history
of the world, that probably had something. Now, Vertigo was
the first ever movie to use CGI, this one was
(02:47):
the first start to finish all CGI. Yeah, we'll get
into that, but there we go.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Toy Story, And I mean, you can tell, like the
animation is definitely mid nineties animation, but it doesn't matter,
you know, it honestly doesn't matter that much.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I read a lot of reviews people being like, oh,
the animation is so aged and dated, and I don't
actually feel like the animation is super dated, at least
not on the TV, like on my TV, Like it
looked really good on Disney Plus or whatever. The worst
part about it is the character design.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, and and and Sid looks the same and their
eyes and yeah, it's like the toys are fantastically well done,
but yeah, the kids are a little bit odd.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And I think if they were going to put their
budget into something, what is more important how Andy looks for,
how Woody work, what looks well. It's called Toy Story
for exactly and so I don't think it really matters
that much and it doesn't take me out of the film.
It takes me out of the film a bit, especially
when you realize that all the kids at the birthday
party are the same the same character model, just with
(03:56):
like a different hat.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, pretty weird.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But well, listen, I think that they did the toy
soldiers right, they did Ham right, they did they did Rex. Yes,
everything is that is perfect. It doesn't look dated. I
mean there's sometimes where you see some of the characters
interact in the background and they're not doing certain things
that you'd see maybe now that make the world a
(04:20):
bit more full.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But also I mean, like you said, this is mid
nineties CGI, like they didn't have the processing.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Powered exactly well exactly, there's no hair no, I mean
Andy's mom has wears a ponytail. But like, yeah, they
didn't have the same technology like they did when they
made Monsters, Inc. With all of individual hairs on Selly right,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And that's that's such an interesting point too, is like
a lot of the times, the ideas for these things
are there, but the technology is what lacks. Like there
was people that had the basic idea for neural networks,
like when computers were still the size of you know,
three garages, they just didn't have the processing power to
act on that.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
On those ideas, it was the same thing with DNA evidence.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Right when something like that. A lot of unsolved cases,
even even back a hundred years ago, had DNA evidence
collected and stuff because they're like, oh, one day we'll
be able to use this.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Boom, look at that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Thirty years later, all of a sudden they had like
a little sperm sample or something that was like figured out,
and they're like, whoa.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Would you look at that?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Right? And so I think it's always going to be
something like that, right, Like I think we were dreaming
about going to space even before airplanes were a thing,
you know what I mean? Right? And sorry whatever airplanes
came before, you get what I mean? Yeah, And I
think that's I think that, Yeah, that's a good point.
And I think that's probably one of the reasons why
this did win a Technical Achievement award at the OSCARS
(05:40):
kind of a special award, not a Best Picture or
anything like that, but it did get a technical achievement, right,
And I think a lot of that goes down to
John lassiter is his direction, and then l just the
future of Xar and what.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Would be now. I mean, Pixar intro is iconic. Anytime
you hear that, like you know what it is?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a really bad impression on
my or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But yeah, no you hear it. You know you know picture?
I mean yeah, picture has become my chronic And.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I recall being probably nine years old and having a
nightmare with a picture of lamp brushed me. That's not
a joke. That's really not kind of funny, but it's
not a joke. I'm actually being serious. And I used
to have this reoccurring nightmare. Maybe I should say this
for our Cars episode when we do Cars one of
my favorite childhood movies. I watched that movie so many times,
(06:36):
and I can still smell how the DVDs smelt like.
Isn't that just a weird thing? Like I still remember
the smell when you'd open up the case and and
like the weird plasticy smell and shit and so much
the point where we had to buy another disc because
it was so scratched up because of how much I
watched it. But uh, I just remember having these vivid
dreams at night where the Frank that combine would be
(06:58):
chasing me in my sleep and I'd have to hide
under like cupboards in my house and he like bursts
through my house trying to find me. And it was
like really crazy. These really weird plots too, where like
every like once a week or something, at like five pm,
if you weren't indoors and we're outside, Frank would like
eat you or something. Right, And so if you like
(07:19):
heard the sound of a siren at like four fifty nine,
you know, you'd have to run inside or hide in
some bushes otherwise Frank was gonna find you. And then
you'd see him like going on the streets and stuff,
and there's like this big combine and I just I
don't know what the heck was going on in my brain.
Does this sound like I'm trauma dumping? It kind of
sounds like I'm trauma dumping on the all of the show.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, it's just you know, interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, this is like a real thing, Like I'm not
like I'm not joking. You know the scene in Cars
where like lighting McQueen has that nightmare about Frank catching him. Yeah,
like that was like the same exact thing that was
happening to me, like and it would be like real life,
in real life, all my family's real life, all that stuff.
Actually I would never see other people in these dreams.
(08:02):
It was just me and Frank. So it was like
more like a like a Twilight Zone type ship, but
like Frank was animated like cartoons, not like an actual combine.
So so like it was like Frank from cars and
everything else is real life. Like if you just like
took a jpeg of Frank and and like.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You didn't like get into the drugs at a young age.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, my dad like to have these frozen brownies, right.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Joking, I'm joking joking, no, but.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
No, no, it was I'm actually I'm actually being like
dead serious, like I couldn't make something like that up,
like like genuinely, you know. And and it was one
of my favorite movies. And so this is one of
my favorite movies. But and I'm embarrassed to say how
long those nightmares went on for, like and it wasn't
like an every night thing. It would be like every cup,
like every five months it would happen, so like I
(09:06):
was like and then like like and then it's just
some you're.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Gonna have one of those nightmares tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now, dude, I kind of want to go back there,
you know what I mean. I like, I kind of
want to go back and like say hw to Frank,
see what he's doing. But yeah, it was like I'm
I'm like dead ass, like telling you like that actually happened.
And anyways, do you have any other traumatic stories you
want to share?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
No, I'm good. You didn't have any nightmares about that? No,
dang man, I.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Didn't watch Cars enough for that. Like I watched it. It
was good, but I didn't watch it enough for that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And it wasn't like nightmares where I'd wake up in
a cold sweat, actually I would like it wasn't like
one of those nightmares where you like, you gotta go
tell your parents that you had a nightmare, you know
what I mean, Because it was so scary. I would
just like wake up and be like, oh my god,
and then I just like go back to bed, you
know what I mean. And it would always end with
Frank Fry finding me. I'd either wake up before Frank
(10:04):
found me, or Frank would find me and right before
he was about to run me over, I'd wake up,
which is just I have goosebumps, Like literally I have
goosebumps right now just talking about it because like it's
just so weird. Hm. Anyways, there you go. Maybe that
should be a Patreon exclusive. Maybe that should be like
I'll say that again in the Car's episode when we
(10:26):
do cars one.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Thing, All right, let's let's do it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Let's tell yeah, you do the synopsis on your phone
because I put mine's on the charger. Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I was just gonna put this on vibrate while you
did that. But I can do this.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh my god, dude, I can't believe I shared that
with the world.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Okay, you're ready. Yeah. Woodie played by Tom Hanks, a
good hearted cowboy doll who belongs to a young boy
named Andy played by John Morris. Jesus position is Andy's
favorite toy, jeopardized when his parents buy him a bu
was light Year played by Tim Allen, action figure. Even worse,
the arrogant Buzz thinks he's a real spaceman on a
mission to return to his home planet. When Andy's family
(11:08):
moves to a new house, Woody and Buzz must escape
the touches of maladjusted neighbor Sid Phillips played by Eric
Undton and reunite with their boy.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Nice so toy story. I guess what, like probably when
some people would say one of like the the most
classic Disney Pixar films ever and one of the best.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
No, you know where I was going, Yeah, yeah, no,
As I said to you, I feel like there was
a generation of kids, myself included, where everywhere you went,
whether it was a summer camper or before and aftercare
program or whatever it was, there was a lot I.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Was playing it.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
It was a huge movie, one of the biggest, but like, honestly,
I feel like they were always just it was always there,
and so like I didn't watch it like through a lot,
but between all watching you know, half hour sections there
and like here and there, Like I've seen this movie
dozens and dozens of times.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And I mean I've watched it through too, but.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
For sure, and I would agree that I've seen it
a lot, It's not as special to me as it
is other people. I think, like I said, a film
like Cars is definitely way more special to me.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But I wouldn'tven say it's specially just say it's nostalgic,
like you know, just all the scenes. I'm like oh,
I remember watching this. Oh I remember this. Oh I
remember that, you know, mm hmm, like for toy story.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, yeah, but I think it's it's different for everyone, right,
And I guess you know, technically this movie came out
before we were born, but like, yeah, there's a lot
of movies that I think we grew up with that
came out before us.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I mean, the other important thing with this one is
good for kids. It's great, but I mean there's so
many references that adults can tolerated too, right, Like, I
mean you can see it, like you said, this Pixar's
first movie. You see, right from the beginning that was
their thing, you know, like all the references and what.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
There's one line where Rex says like he wants like
a vegetarian dinosaur or something like that, so he could
be a dominant alpha.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Right, like the dominant type dinostaic.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
He was like what, Well, I looked at me like
spat on my ic.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I was like, what, you don't notice that as a
kid out, Like, I don't remember any of those references
and all this stuff with bo Like I don't remember
any of that, Like, I mean, you know, as a kid,
you have a rudimentary understanding that oh, they're in love,
but you don't know anything more than that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Like, yeah, exact.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And then as an adult, like I was laughing a
lot because of that.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I'm laughing at a certain point. I'm like, I feel
like accosted in a way that right, like twelve twelve
year old me, like seven year old me was sitting
there listening to this and I didn't know what was
going on. I feel like I was betrayed.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But it also speaks to the genius of their writing, yea,
that they're able to do that, Like they're able to
walk that line.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And it's not and it's not perceived in a creepy
way where they're like, oh, this is really creepy and
and horny and getting over the kids' heads. No, it's
more like it's kind of just it's charming more like
in a way. Right, it doesn't come off as creepy because.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's a probably more fun for them to see O
caalcuny hide these little little jokes.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's more calculated, you know what I mean. And it
doesn't come across as super edgy or launchy or anything
like that. It's it's calculated and it's it's still respectful
in a way, I think, and that's why I feel
like there is a lot of generational humor that you
could look at.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I think this is a lot of people's like
favorite Pixar movie. It's not mine, No, but I think
it's really good.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, it's good. The Solid movie, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Shall we go through a plot? Yeah, a little quick plot, Okay, Woodie,
he's a toy. We learned in the world that basically
toys can come to life when their owners being kids,
are done playing with them, right, Like, they kind of
come to life and kind of when their kid is back.
You know, they play dead essentially so that the kid
(15:16):
can play with them and have adventures and then you know,
they can all talk and do things. What. He's the
leader of this group of toys who belong to Andy, right,
And so we learned that Andy is going to be
moving away in one week's time, and the toys are
basically finding movie buddies getting ready to pack up and go, right.
But then all of a sudden, Andy's birthday party happens, right, And.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So it happens a week early because they don't want
to do it during.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
The move exactly, and so all these kids come, some
of the kids get him bed sheets. I think there's
a really funny joke there where him's like.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Man, who invited that kid? Yeah right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, yeah, oh man. It was just really funny. And
the synopsis it said Andy's parents got him the buzz
light Year.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, it's only his mom that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And also I don't think that was a gift from
his mom. I think buzz Lightyear. I thought a buzz
Lightyer came from one of the other kids at the
birthday party.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't think it says. I think it's oh there's
one more here that they that they almost forgot about. Okay,
I think that's what it is, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, I just I just, I mean, it really doesn't matter.
It's just technicality on the synopsis. Well, it's not parents,
it's mom. And also did it actually come from his mom?
Like that's kind of up in the air. So, I mean,
if if the filmmakers wrote it, I guess, then yeah, yeah,
they probably know better, I would hope. So, but we
(16:41):
find out that it's this buzz Lightyear action figure h
toy or he has like deployable wings. He has a laser.
He has a voice box laser, a laser that has
a light. You know, it's funny enough. I had a
Woody toy and my brother had a buzz light your
toy when you're growing up, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And I believe I had a buzz light Year as well.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's funny because I don't remember ever being jealous that
my brother had a buzz light Year and I had
a Woody. I was just like really like freaking stoked
to hang out with Woody all day. But I like,
even now, I'm kind of like I probably would have
been more jealous now than I was when I was
like eight, because I was like, hold on a second,
I kind of got scammed there. Why do my parents
give me.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
The Woody do That's not that's not fair.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
At his strings that reach for the stars, and he
had deployable wings. That's not even fair at all. Like
even now, I feel hurt, Like I'm gonna make a
call to my mom. Can he pauses? I gotta like,
just like call my mom, Oh my good lord, let's
do it. I don't have my phone on me.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I'm gonna do it. On the show.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I'm hi. You're on the viewing room, say hi. You
know I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Just say hi.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Adam's here, Okay. I wanted to ask you a question.
What Okay, So you know the movie toy story. Why
is a dog working?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know the movie toy story? Okay, So when we
were growing up, right, I had a Woody. I had
a woody toy, right, and I really liked whatody. We
even wrote my initials on the bottom of his shoe,
and and he had the string and we pulled him
right and I don't even know what happened to him, right,
but you remember that, right, okay? And Cale had a
(18:27):
buzz light year. Yeah. So I was just thinking, like
when I was eight, that was really cool that I
had a witty and Kale had a buzz But now
that I think about it, that wasn't really fair, now,
was it. Kale's buzz Lighty is so much cooler than Woody.
He can like have a laser and like deploy his
(18:51):
but but like he had like he had a laser
and deployable wings and a face mask. Well did him
hear me? Why did my Woody Like like you could
take off his hat, you could take off his hat
and pull his string. But like, like, come on, I
wasn't jealous when I was eight, but I'm kind of
(19:12):
jealous now. What's up with that? You know, the only
thing you canlud get a light here. I can't afford
that in this economy. Okay, well, thanks mom. I just
wanted you to know that I'm traumatized now and I did. Yeah,
(19:34):
I just like I realized when I was eight, I
was fine, but now and I realized, like the buzz
Lightyer is actually cooler than Woody. That was kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Did you record your episode?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
We're recording right now. Yeah, yeah, this is going in.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Oh my god, okay, goodbye.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Exactly as well as I thought I would. She said
he was cooler than me, and that's why he added, Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Hey, I'm gonna have to agree with that man.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That hurts. Anyways, buzz Lightyer comes. He takes over as
like the head haun show wood He's like the sheriff
of the town. But uh, buzz Light here is kind
of like the cool new toy, so we see Andy
kind of evolved. He kind of tosses Woody aside, who
used to be his favorite toy, and and buzz is
(20:31):
like hot shit, now, you know what I mean. Yeah,
he has a buzz light, your bed sheets, you know
his Space Ranger paintings and stuff plastered over Woody paintings.
It's pretty intense and wood He feels a little bit
left out right. So Woody, I never realized how bad,
how much of a bad guy would he.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Actually he is a bit of a bad guy for
the first half.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, Like I just like kind of was like cool
story man, I love you Woody when I was eight,
but like rewatching it like start to finish, like as
an adult, you're like, WHOA hold on a second, this
guy actually really isn't a very good guy. Attempted murder
charges yeah, possibly even manslaughter intent. Right, we can go
into an illegal court.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
We always him to do this, you know, uh, your honor,
my client, you can you see, he was merely trying
to regain his spot as top dog, and the fact
that the toy was not alive to begin with means
that there is no case for manslaughter. Here is the
toy was never alive to begin with.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
He took out his batteries, he took a screwdriver, and
he put in double E's do you have anything to
say for yourself to infinity and beyond.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Okay, now we sound like we're on crackofter story, so
well aren't we.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Isn't that what the white powder we started before this
show was?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Oh man, okay, I didn't get my train of thought back.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What yes, what he's actually kind of a bad guy?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, but he's actually kind of a bad guy. He
tries to kill Buzz and it doesn't quite work, but
Woody kind of gets exiled for for well, actually sorry,
they think he killed Buzz. He didn't actually kill Buzz.
But when he gets exiled, he's like, wait, guys, I
wasn't actually trying to kill him, which maybe you can
(22:20):
say he's trying to knock him off the bed. Would
that have killed him? Probably not, no toy, but like
interesting to think, like was would he actually trying to
kill him? Hmm? Anyways, they kind of banish Woody for
being a murderer, and then he realizes that like, oh wait,
Buzz is a lot we have to like bring we
(22:43):
have to go back to Andy and like the rest
of the toys and be like, yo, Buzz light years
actually alive. Guys, We're fine, Everything's cool. Whatever, and he
comes in the room. He grabs Woody because he can't
find Buzz, and he heads off to Pizza Planet, right,
which is like a big arcade Chuck e Cheese type thing.
You know, Buzz is alive still, he follows pursuit, gonna
(23:08):
have a scuffle Woodie and Buzz. The end up getting
the Pizza Planet. Like at kidnapped by Sid, who's like
the evil kid next door. And and now Woody and
Buzz are trapped with an actual kid who murders toys
and like, okay, actually.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Forgot about the aliens. Those are some of my.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Claw. That claw, yeah, that's pretty cool. The claw.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, I'm gonna take those and layer them all together claw.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Sid dismembers toys. He like takes heads off of some
and puts them on the other experiments he does like something, yeah, okay,
you know what, to be fair, I mean, he doesn't
know they're alive.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
That's the thing, right, Like and I mean like I
remember doing like similar things, not like not like with
explosives and stuff, but like, you know, my thing as
a kid was always taking things apart, Like I would
always take things apart.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
He looks at the explosive and he goes heap out
of reach of children.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
All right, right, Like that would literally be if I
got my hands on that, right, Yeah, Like I feel
like he's not that bad, Like they portray him as
the evil kid, and sure, like the explosives and the
burning ash er, maybe's a little bit psychotic, but like.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, it would be normal that he was just doing
that to have fun and be like, oh, like look
at this cool thing I made. All right, well, I
can get behind that. What instead, what he does is
like sleep tight.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
He's like doctor Evil, like he's.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Doing it for psychotic reasons.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, the things he's doing, I feel like if they
were portrayed in a different way, wouldn't be Like I.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Think there's a logic flaw here because you can see
some of the toys have different arms and stuff like that.
Now mister potato Head and Missus potato Head can like
wear each other's parts, you know what I mean. But
it's not like when you put mister Potatohead's eyes on
Missus potato Head, he now controls Missus potato Head. So
for some reason, some of the toys like they change
(25:24):
who they're actually animating, which breaks the logic, you know,
what I mean, in my opinion, does that make sense
to you? Like you have the heads of some people
on the other people, but they're like actually controlling you
they were originally You're like, wait, hold on a second.
If you put Woody's head on Buzz's body and technically
(25:45):
would he be just Buzz with a Woody head. But
there's some of the toys that are like not that,
which is like, yeah, I know what now, maybe that
just makes it look more deranged or maybe like I
was just gonna say, it's almost like that's just there
brushing it off. As you know, he's evil and you
managed to figure out a mad scientist way of doing it.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Again, it's an animated Pixar movie.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yes, we can't.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
We can't read with toys that come alive. We can't
read too much into it.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Like because we established that the dolls can talk and
Toy Story three, but none of the dolls can talk
in this movie. Yeah, but they can all move, but
they can't talk. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I'm not going to go through the logic of a
movie where toys come to life in the middle of
the night to hold meetings about moving buddies.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yeah, I'm not okay, let's not do it. Sure, okay,
threw it? What proves that you don't care?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I don't care?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That was worth Uh. I completely lost my train of
thought like ten minutes ago.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Fun fact I read I saw an interview the other day.
Tom Hanks was talking about Woody and how his brother
actually does all the voicing stuff for Woody now for
all like the toys and the commercials and anything that
has him in it, because there's so much of it
and he's just too busy, so he actually get pays
his brother to go and do him for him.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's kind of funny. H that's kind of.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Fun you know what, that's clever.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, what's While you were talking about the role of
of Woodie, we can talk about Buzz. Billy Crystal was
actually originally offered to play Buzz light Year, but he
refused and obviously Tim Allan got it and he said
at that point in his career that was the biggest
mistake in his life. But John Lassiter called him up
(27:47):
when they were shooting Monsters, Inc. Asked to speak with him.
The first thing, So the uh, the first thing Billy
Crystal said when he got the call from John was yes.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, I'm not making that mistake again. He didn't, he didn't,
He didn't even hear what it was.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
He said, yes, I'll do it, and and that was
the role of Mike Wazowski and Monsters, Inc. And now
they've done two or three of those, or at least
two movies and a bunch of shows and shorts and stuff,
and he never made that mistake again, which I think, Uh,
maybe the Toy Story franchise is a bit more of
a bigger commercial success. But I don't think Monsters Monsters Inc.
(28:24):
Did that bad either, you know what I mean. I
don't think any of these movies are are really failing
at the box office than anything, right, And I think
oh Man didn't inside out to become like another big success.
Wasn't that one of the highest on the Oscars list
for this year? It must be?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, I think it. I think it's on there for
at least one. I only went through and put it
through every single nomination in a spreadsheet for our awesome
Oscars Live Watch party coming on March.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Second, Yes, which would be this Saturday, maybe Sunday, this
Sunday anyways, so SIDS can nap the toys. We kind
of realize that, Okay, Sid's probably gonna be killing these
guys if they don't get out soon. Now, overlooking Andy's house,
(29:13):
which is next door of Sid, what, he can see
the other toys, But Buzz is super depressed because I
fail to kind of talk about this earlier. Buzz believes
he's a real space Ranger, but eventually he comes to
learn that he is actually just a toy, and based
on a TV commercial, he realizes that, like, wait, I'm
(29:36):
not an actual space ranger. I'm like a mass produced
like toy.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
My favorite one of my favorite scenes is from Is
It two or Is It three? Whichever one where they
actually go to Al's toy barn, Yeah two, and he
walks down the aisle of all the Buzzes and then
he gets kidnapped and thrown in the box and they
have to try and figure out which buzz is which.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yes, that that is.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I love that scene, like honestly, Toy Story two, I
love it more than Toy Story one. Yeah, And but
I don't know that that scene just reminded me of
that for some reason.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I always I always like to Story two to.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Story two. Yeah, coming to stories near you for a
limited time.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You know, Woody is it's pretty adamant to Buzz without
the story that you're a toy. But but Buzz doesn't
believe me. He doesn't really know what he's talking about. He's like, no,
I'm an intergalactic space ranger and and what he's like,
you are a toy, which I whatever. It's farty, great line.
(30:47):
And and Buzz finally realizes this, and he's kind of
like he's almost ready to die.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
He's like he's giving up completely.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
He's just melodramatic to depressed.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
He's kind of like his mission is like will never
be complete, which is interesting because I guess all these
Buzzes come pre programmed with different missions almost and to
free the planet from Zurg or whatever, so.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Which is kind of yeah, which I find so funny
because the is the enemy in the StarCraft game series.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, but his dad is I think it's right.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I think it's something like that.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Whatever. I think that's explored more and toy start too. Anyways,
So unfortunately for Woody, Buzz can't prove to the other
toys in Andy's room that that he's actually alive. So
wood he has to we use one of Buzz's arms
that have been torn off and like try and proof
(31:52):
to all the other toys that Buzz is actually alive,
and then they see that.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I don't find funny, or what I find funny is
why doesn't he just get hold on? Guys all grab
him and like go get Buzz up there? Why does
he need to hurry?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Well, yeah, but if if he can get if he
says hold on and they wait for him to go
get his arm, then he can just go down there
and get his freakin I don't know, I don't know,
I whatever put his arm back in his socket and
then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, but anyways, Buzz Super Expresso Dpresso decides finally that okay,
he can be a space ranger, so he'll help Wood
he escape and get back to Andy's room before moving day.
But Sid has other plans. He takes the toys, he
kidnaps them. He's gonna launch a rocket, but all the
(32:41):
toys decide to come to life to Sid and scare
the crap out. It said, be like, hey, listen, like
we're gonna like hunt you down and hunt you for
the rest of your days. If you don't start playing
nights with us, traumatize the sid, he runs away, They
free Buzz. Then Andy starts to move, and so now
they have to chase down the movie moving truck. Basically,
(33:02):
when he gets to a moving truck, I have to
basically try and help him and all the toys starts
to reject what he because he's a murderer, but then
they realize, oh wait, what he's actually trying to help
us and whatever. Eventually, Woody and Buzz the pocket. He
used an explosive rocket that was going to kill Buzz
(33:23):
to instead launch them towards the Uh that sounds like
a pilot to launch them towards the moving truck.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, they're going to launch them towards the ladies and
gentlemen the fight deck.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
This is uh, captain, we'll.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Be ready to push back here shortly, just finishing up
a bit of paperwork and then we'll be on our way.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And that's that's pretty much how I do my podcast.
And and uh, that's the.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
End of the movie.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Right, This is the end of the movie.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
This is basically, if they're all reunited, they all live
happily ever after.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, everybody's happy. Yeah cool.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, And one thing I find interesting. So at the
start he has like you mentioned the woody like bed
sheets or whatever. It's all woody, and then when he
gets buzz, all buzz, and then at the end they
show like there's only one or two shots that show it.
It's the buzz bedspread in a woody pillow.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, it's like he's now like back to the two
of them, which I find cool.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
That's cool. Yeah, I do have some fact.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, let's hear the carpet.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
And Sid's room is the same carpet in the Overlook
Hotel from the Shining kind of give it a horror aspect.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I believe it.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
Also, can we talk about his sleeping buster, like what,
oh that's funny?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'd not do it.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I can't do it. Not that flexible do it? Not
that flexible?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Do it in your chair. I just wanted to see
you do it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
This is a first Pixar movie. But it's also the
shortest Pixar movie.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's not a it's not a long one.
It's like what an hour in a bit?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Ah yeah, I wanted to say it was like eighty minutes. Yeah,
it's not seventy eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Maybe No, one hour and twenty minutes, right, eighty one minutes.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
One minutes? Yeah, okay, cool?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So it is the shortest, you know, Yeah, like I
don't You don't need three hour movies all the time?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Uh, pizza Planet, there's a pizza thing there. Pizza Planet
truck appears in every single Pixar movie.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, it's so cool to watch a breakdown of all
the little cameos in the Pixar in the Pixar universe.
I guess you'd say like they throw different things from
it for movies in all Over, for.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Sure, and little details like that are what make movies
like these want to watch, right, Like, it shows a
little bit of extra care and attention, right, and it'st
that you've probably never even seen unless you go into
New rock Stars or something and have someone else explaining
to you for half an hour. But you know what
I mean, that's special too, right.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
We talked about funny people. In my opinion, are the
weakest part the character. Vany's the weakest part. But is
that a bad thing?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I feel like they don't need to develop in many more.
I feel like if they had spent more time, we'd
add more length in the movie. Let's say, now it's
a ninety minute movie, and they've spent time developing Andy's character,
we've already established that the cgi on the care and
the people isn't great. I don't think we need it. Like, honestly,
it's a story about his toys. It's sort of like
the parents in Charlie Brown, Right, you never hear what
(36:58):
they say. They're not important because it's about the kids.
They're there, we're aware they're there. They have some impact
on the story, but it's not important enough to build them.
And I feel like it's the same thing. It's about
the toys. He's not important in this, And I I agree,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I don't think. I don't think fleshing out extremely in
trick ate stories between Woody and his goals in life
and stuff was super important because I think at the
end of the day, it is the toys story. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Oh, and especially since there's they play dead when he's around.
Yeah huh, they play dead when he's around, right, So
there's not like they can have any interactions really like
direct interactions. And and honestly, it's a kids movie too,
so you don't need to complicate it.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
MM hm, and I think I think it works. I
think with the character models being so crappy, it's kind
of like maybe they wanted to put more of the
budget towards the toy models anyways, which is one hund
the smarter option, right, So I.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Don't know makes sense, Like the toys, Like, okay, well
here's what's what's your favorite toy in this one favorite toy?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, I used to really love the penguinzy. Oh is
that the second?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
The second one? I like too, but that's the second one,
so okay.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
My actual favorite toy is probably their sea car r C. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, I remember when I was younger, I liked Rex.
Rex was my favorite. Oh yeah, Rex is awesome. But
after watching it, I'm like, you know what, the army Men. Honestly,
the army men are my favorite.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yea. They're pretty good to soldiers.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, and like the way they're animated, the walking and like,
you know, the way they act and I don't know
the army man and there's such a small role, but
the army Man are really good. And then Ham has
a lot of funny one liners too.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Ham is good for the army men to walk the
crew to figure out how they would do it, like
nailed or screwed boards into their shoes to walk around
with boards in it to see how the army men
would walk the walking down. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
No, and it's so good, like it looks exactly like
if you if a kid was just h exactly.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I don't know, man, I think, like I said, I
said it was some people said a lot of it
was like super dated, and yeah, some of the character
models dated and stuff like that. But like, I don't
really feel its as dated as some people make it up.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
But I mean the thing is, any movie is going
to be dated eventually. Yeah, I mean the most advanced
CGI from twenty twenty five is going to be dated
in twenty years, right, like, And so I don't think
that's a fair criticism exactly. I don't think.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Because CGI, I get it, CGI can be like bad,
CGI can be a turnoff. Yeah, but I think even
in a lot of modern day movies, it's like I
don't think that should be our primary focus as like
a reviewer is.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I mean, like it's CG. Here's the thing, Like, I mean,
they won an award for how good it was at
the time. Yeah, So I don't think that' that should matter.
Like I said, like when we look at you know,
some of the early special effects from like the fifties,
like where they were using claymation that was you know,
like superimposed into the scenes, Like we look at it
(40:12):
now and like what the hell is this? But then
you think about it in the lens of the of
the fifties when they're making this, and it's like awesome,
holy shit, like Sindbad and some of those movies where
they like play mation skeletons and it's like holy.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know, yeah no. And maybe
it's not the most super intricate story, right Wood. He
goes through a character arc where he tries to kill
Buzz and then he realizes, I guess Buzz isn't as
(40:48):
bad as he odd need and he still cares, and
he's still he realizes Andy still cares about him, so
now he's not gonna kill Buzz. Very interesting, right.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Like, yeah, that one's a bit weak. But at the
same time, it's a kid's story again, you know, like
it doesn't have to be complicated, and and I think
the lesson there is you know, for for the kids
more is like I mean adult adults to a certain extent.
But for the kids, you know, that lesson there is
you know, you don't need to you know, have favorites exactly.
(41:22):
I mean, it's okay to have favorites, but like still acceptance.
Everybody's fine, you know, just because they're maybe not your face.
You know, you can have favorite you know, friends or whatever,
but you still you don't have to be you know,
forget about everybody else.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
I think the larger message is probably about honestly being forgotten,
you know what I mean, and and replaced, right, And
I think that's like a I don't know, I don't think.
I think it's maybe more of a thing when you're
like super like way older, which is something that like
maybe OP would do a better job touching on. But
(41:59):
I do think like even at work or whatever, a
lot of people you feel that way to a certain extent, right,
and maybe they're best friends change or something in their
life changes. So I think I think that's like a
bigger piece of the puzzle. But yeah, like I said,
I don't think it's as as intricate or in depth
(42:19):
as maybe other movies, right, and it doesn't need to be. Yeah,
it's a kids move I don't know, and I don't think. Yeah,
I don't think it's as dated as people make it
out to be. Yeah, the character models are pretty like
but but I mean they got that, they got the
stuff that mattered.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, and I mean they're probably thinking about like you know,
photo realistic and like shadows and stuff. But it's distracting,
right it almost with rage Racingah, right, you don't need it,
you know, like it's good the way it is, and
and yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
And maybe that helps it become more believable. You know.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Well it's almost more like a cartoon in a way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, but like that's what that's what I mean, right,
Like if it was like these guys were all pasted
on top of it, you know what I mean, then
maybe you would feel less whatever. But if the if
the kids themselves feel animated and not ivery realistic, then
maybe it gives viewers a sense of like, okay, like
better said is mentioned a disbelief. Yeah, it's kind of
like in the Polar Express. Actually, the Polar Express is
(43:21):
pretty gnarly with the character's eyes. The eyes and Polar
Express are brutal mad. But I don't know, I got
what I was trying to say, yeah, I guess that's
kind of it.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah for me, really, yeah, I don't have much more.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
We scratched the thing.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah, we rate it and then i'll scratch what do
you read?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Eight eight given any Yeah, I agree, I'll there's like
an eight add ten movie. It's a solid movie. People
enjoy it, kids, adults.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Whatever you want to.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Use my keys, I'll take I'll take your keys any day,
all right? Oh yeah, the post you got for me
for Christmas? For us wherever you want, definitely for us.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
You got a friend in me, You got a friend
in me? Well what is it?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
What is whatdy? And Buzz, Well that's my yourkey's not mine?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (44:25):
And Buzz their hands Buzz got a fist bump and
Wood he's got a finger again. Cool, there we go.
That's our first adjacent one. Oh no, it's not those
two besides each other. And down there oh yeah, down
there too. Apparently I'm blind.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Cool. Cool that sty starts crossed off. We got not
at least another like ninety moves.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
It's mindy some movies to go.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, anyways, that was the Union, Thank you for watching.
That was our review of Boys Story nineteen ninety five.
We do have a Patreon at different ad Media and
an Instagram at the viewing room Underscore. Thanks for watching,
have a great day.
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