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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like ferrets aren't like I've held ferrets before.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Have you ever been naked in an above water with
an animal that hates water? He possibly has brabies hate water.
I'm assuming that if you dropped a ferret into a
dirty BATHU who would hate you? You want to try it?
All right? Take your pants?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
All right? Why would get the ferret first?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Maggie?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And now time for the viewing room with Adam and Eton.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Welcome to the viewing room. We talk about films new
and old, local and global. Now in our theme song
that is a reference to CEO's Sidewalk Slam or Yeah Yeah,
I said yeah Season three Sidewalk Slam Season three out
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One day, Ryan, I'm looking at you. Maybe we'll get there.
My Grandma's told a lot of our church church friends
about us, and we're nipping at your heels, buddy, so
look out. Uh okay. The Big Lebowski released on March sixth,
nineteen ninety eight, the same day Twilight was released. Maybe
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a little bit pertinent. Robert Pattinson went from starring in
Twilight to now being like an actual beloved actor in
films like The Batman or Mickey seventeen, which released on Friday.
Those are different movies though that We're gonna focus on
The Big Lebowski. I had a bunch of the fifteen
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million USD which yeah, I see, and yeah, he grossed
forty eight million roughly, there's different sources, but like you
have forty fifty million, so yeah, exactly, it made it
made some money, right, And I feel like there is
still people who consider this to be like a cult, classic,
staple Cohen brother film. I'm in the Boat, and I
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think it's kind of a weaker Cohen Brothers.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I mean, it's on one hundred top best Top the
movie poster you got me, the hundred best movie posters
movies of all time. I can't agree with that one.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I can't. I'm sorry, I can't. I enjoy it.
I think it's a good movie, and we'll talk about why.
I don't think it's like it's I see why for
a lot of people, it's like a classic, cool movie,
but like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well, here's the thing. I think it can be a
classic and still be a shitty movie, you know what
I mean. Yeah, Like there there's like movies that are
crappy that you like, like you know, it's like lovable crappiness, you.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Know what I mean. And then there's like.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Good movie, you know what I mean? That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, And I don't think this is a crappy movie,
but like I don't see how some people think it
is like a little like a bad taste or things
like that. I do think there's a lot of smart humor,
you know. I think my favorite moment in the film
has to be when he barricades the door and then
it opens from the other That's hilarious. It's funny, right,
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you know, when he thinks he finds a clue in
the mansion and it's just it's just the dick drain,
like hilarious. Like I think, I don't know. I think
that's like smart, witty humor, right, And I think that's
kind of what attributes to its classic nature and some
of the dialogue, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
For me, like part of the problem with it is
the story just feels like it kind of kind of
just it jounces along like it just it sometimes it's
going and sometimes it doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.
And sometimes it makes perfect sense, and sometimes it's really
confusing the dude.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Bides man, I don't know, I think, and and so
that was almost a criticism I had because yeah, like
I feel like the pacing, while like I didn't have
any problems with pacing necessarily, like the plot itself is
like wait on a second, what's happening here? Yeah, And
I feel like that was almost done purposely because you
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have the character like the dude who is literally just
like in like insane, but like such a weird character.
That's like, I'm gonna use the word, it's a weird character.
He's a weird dude.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Like I said before we started the episode, dude is Gary. Yes,
now we don't need a producer.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
By a former producer of the view interview.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Gary, the founder of Damn.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's him.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
The hair, the beard, the bathrobe. Yeah, the sandals I
remember the first time but I saw Gary wears shoes
and not like sandals are slippers, and it was like,
this is weird. I don't like this. This isn't this
is abnormal. It's just Gary.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, yeah, it is Gary. And yeah, I don't know.
That's why I feel like, in my opinion, the plot
is kind of trying to be more like his character
where you know what I mean, it's very like he
repeats things that other people says, like when he hears
people do speeches or stuff like that, or say something,
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he uses it in the next scene instead of coming
up with anything new himself. He like.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And also again within a conversation, so you know, he'll
start trying to say something. You know, he talks so
slowly that by that point the person has interrupted him
and he like he has important information that he wants
to tell them. You know, by this point they've interrupted
him and started talking about something else, and then he
has to repeat it, and then the conversation has moved
on and never actually told them the.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Important thing that he used to tell them.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Half of this movie, half the bad stiff in this
movie could have been prevented if he just talked a
little faster and got to the point quicker, a little.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
As high too, Yeah, yeah, don't do drugs kids.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But then ship like this doesn't happen. This whole studio
wouldn't have happed if carry wasn't high twenty Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And believe that up to the world's interpretation, if that's
a good thing or a bad thing. Yes, starts at
a cast we have Jeff Bridges, who, my opinion, gives
kind of a legendary performances. The dude, I think it's
such a weird, lazy character such as strange lifestyle that like,
hold on a second, maybe like Jeff Bridges actually like
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nailed it. Maybe he made this weird lifestyle look more
appealing to other people in a way, you know, you
know what I mean. And I mean we can talk
about that too. But John Goodman's also in it. I
mean John Goodman, he absolutely knows that I love John
Goodman as an actor, but in this film as Walter,
he just absolutely like ing.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I'll say the acting. It starts to cast and then
the acting.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And the chemistry between Jeff and John and Steve like together.
Steve Buscemi also in it. I forget the name of
his character that he plays, but what was it, I
don't know, Donnie Donnie is that what his name was?
And he dies alert I don't know. I feel like
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they had really solid chemistry. I like, just start to finish,
they worked together and the dialogue is so random and
wacky and weird, but for some reason they make it work,
Like I don't think it could have worked with a
lot of other groups of people, and I think when
you have someone as I mean, I think Walter's character
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John Goodman, sorry, John Goodman's character Walter is very jarring.
He's like you ever heard him? Nom kid? You know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Everything comes back to Vietnam, which I find hilarious, and.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's like mostly his personality is Vietnam, right, And then
like you have laid back Jeff Bridges. But like I
feel like they meld together really well that it makes
the most unnatural, weird scenarios feel natural to this world,
you know what I mean, Like it's like this is
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designed for these characters. That's right, Don Yeah, Okay? Cool?
Obviously directed by Ethan and Joel Cohen, I did say
I think this is one of the weaker Coen Brothers films.
Obviously we have Fargo, right, we have No Country for
Old Men. I'm sure you're just four Cohen Brothers movies
on the top one hundred movie they're they're legendary for
a reason. I think, out of like the Coen Brothers
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films I watched, it's probably a little weaker one. I
just don't think it's as it's as crazy. But I
I did really enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I just think if you're comparing it too like No
Country for Old her Fargo, I'm like, I regard, we're
really doing this? Really are we really doing this? But whatever?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And and those I mean those are the more popular ones,
but you know, just no appeling to do as many people, I.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Agree, it's the same thing, like we always talk about it,
how do you like? How does the how does the enjoyment?
Because I mean, ultimately, movies are for enjoyment, So how
does how do you enjoy it? And I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed watching how a good laugh?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I was watching it, Yeah, exactly, There's some really funny moments.
And for me, like before we go into like a
big synopsis, I wanted to say, like, for me, I
think this movie is kind of best enjoyed in pieces
almost And I don't say that about a lot of movies,
right because I think start to Finish is the best.
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But there's so many like smart moments in this film
that I feel, I don't know, I feel like one
of the best ways to watch this film is by
going onto YouTube and seeing like those movie channels that
post like eight different clips of the film. I feel
like that's kind of the best way to watch this film.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Is honestly, I've had that with like, you know that
seventies show. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, so I got you.
I started getting a whole bunch of YouTube.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Shorts for it. Wait, which seventies show? The originally that
seventies show called that seventies shows. What it's a show
called that seventies show? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
What that is the name of the show?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
What show are you talking about? What show in the seventies?
You're pulling my leg? Yeah, I'm pulling your leg. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, that's like a yeah, and I don't know it's
on third Yeah, yeah, anyway, that seventies show. And I
kept getting a whole bunch of clips for it on YouTube, like, oh,
this looks fun. Okay, I'm gonna try watching it. I
got like five minutes into the first episode, like, yeah,
this is I don't want to watch this.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm just gonna keep watching the YouTube shorts for it. Yeah,
it's like the cold opens sometimes for like a comedy
TV show, the cold open is the best part of
the episode for some people.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And and I gotta say, I think this move and
I hate to say it, but I think this movie
might be best enjoyed in like eight parts, you know
what I mean. And and maybe that's controversial, but that's
just how I felt like. You know, there's some really
big laughs here and there, and I feel like, just
as a whole, it might just be easiest to digest
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this movie by looking at the clip, especially if like
weird sonar films like that kind of sense. And I
know it's it's like it's called like a we're gonna
call it a stoner movie, right, it just doesn't like again,
when you're comparing it to like other Coen Brothers movies,
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No Country for Old Men, especially because that's my favorite one,
it's like, whoa, what happened here? Comparison is a thief
of joy? Right, I'll throw that out there. I didn't
come up with that statement. Don't you looked at me
like I was very profound. I haven't seen that movie.
Oh oh wow, really, Street for Old Men. I'm not
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No Country for Old Men? The only one it bara
Non hold On Going Crazy. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, No
Country for Old Man.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah that's what you're talking. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah gotcha.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And I just feel like, yeah, you can't really compare
the two two very different movies. But I'm just like,
I'm using it, the comparison as much as you can
argue that, like comparison isn't good, it is very good. Actually, actually, in.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
My opinion, always gonna be, even even subconscious, You're always
being compared. So why not.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
It's not good or bad, It's unavoidable. And and so yes,
I'm going to compare their works, and I feel like
I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna stop comparison.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I'm not comparing. I'm reading a synopsis. Jeff the dude Lebowski,
mistaken for a millionaire of the same, seeks restitution for
his ruined rug you know it, and enlists his bowling
buddies to help get it. Kind Of a big thing
in this movie is the bowling. Right. We have all
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of our characters meeting up in the bowling alley to talk,
and a big stable for this actions in this movie
is but we can't go too far because like we
don't want to miss our bowling tournament. Right. Funny enough,
you never see the dude bowl once in this whole movie.
I noticed that a single time. Kind of weird no,
not once does the dude who's in this professional bowling bowl.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I'm guessing because you can't actually bowl, yeah, you know
what I mean. And for somebody that's supposed to have
bowled that much, you should probably be a better bowler
then he would have. He would actually be well, he just.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Don't show him playing, which is just kind of interesting,
especially since at the end Walter is like, you know,
let's go bowling, like the last line of the film,
isn't it, basically, or or one one of like the
closing whatever scenes. But we start out the dude, he's
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he's a bit of a dude. He's kind of a
he's he the terminal uses. The dude abides he He
kind of lives his life how he lives it. He
doesn't really change, he doesn't really grow, and his character
doesn't in this movie. And that might be a problem
for some people because that strays away from a lot
of what movies are supposed to be, where you have
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a character that learns and grows and develops, but the
dude doesn't really do any of those things. The dude abides.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
He's a stoner, he's uh, he's kind of broke. He
writes a check, but it's dated for like a year
after based on the speech that's playing. So that's that's funny.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I love Sam Elliott narrating it. Yeah, here's how it
feels to drive a forward on the Dude of Bides.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Jeff Bridges is.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
It's also weird to see Samoney at that young because
I've watched many movies from with him from his younger days.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
He doesn't look that young in this movie. Thought that
he got the nustache and everything.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Now, like how clear and smooth a skin is you know,
yeah back then? Yeah exactly, Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Like it looks like his hands like you know when
your hands get wrinkled, like his face did that, so
just like wrinkled. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why. Crazy
metaphor dude, Yeah he got old. Two words could have
fixed that whole sentence, but but yeah, it is. It
is interesting, dude. It's just kind of like he's just
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a dude. He goes home to his place and he
gets accosted by two guys who are looking for money, right,
they're looking for money.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, they wanted their wife the money. Yeah, his wife
owes the money and wanted one. I think it's a
million bucks.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But it's kind of weird to the dude because or
or Jeffrey Lebowski, because he realizes that, wait a second,
I'm not married. So these guys shove his head and
toilet and on his rug. It was a centerpiece that
brought the whole room together. And they leave because they're like, oh, shoot,
we got the wrong guy. So Jeffrey Lebowski heads to
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Jeffrey Lebowski's place or the Big Lebowski to seek some
retribution because he's like, hold on a second, this was
this is your wife, this is this is your problem.
I want my rug back, man and and he goes
and he meets his like not necessarily, butler, what would it?
What is this guy's like really yeah, sure, publicist maybe
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assistant of receptionist, and and the big Lebowski is like, no,
we're not We're not going to be doing anything to you,
like this is your fault basically that it happened. And
the dude's like, hold on second, this isn't my fault
at all. This is literally your fault. This is your
wife what And the big Lebowski basically tells him like listen,
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get out, you're not getting anything. But the dude lies
and he says, guess what, the big Lebowski, Yeah, Jeffrey
Lebowski says, I can take any rug i'd like. So
he takes his rug and he leaves, and he meets
jeff Jeffrey's wife, Bunny Bunny, and she's like, you know,
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she's a wife. She's way younger than him. Trophy. Yeah, sure,
trophy wife. And she's kind of a flirt and other stuff,
and she wants to suck his dick for a thousand bucks. Yeah, yeah,
put it to put a blank to put it blankly.
You know, he doesn't have the cash right now, so
he's gonna go to an Yeah, but he gets he
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gets pulled away, he goes home. Whatever. He tells his
buddies about this, They're all like, whatever, handy dandy. Some
time passes, I guess, and we learned that Bunny is
take Bunny is is officially kidnapped and gone. But now
instead of being angry about the rug, the big Lebowski
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is going to be like, hey, listen, I need to
get my wife back. You're gonna help me get her back.
I'm gonna give you what, twenty thousand dollars dollars to
be my bag man. Yeah, to basically give the kidnappers
a million dollars as like a ransom and get her
back for me, because obviously, you know what I mean, Like,
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you're gonna do this for me because he stole for
me blah blah blah blah blah whatever, and you need
the cash and and so whatever. Like Jeffrey Lebowski is like,
let's do it. Let's make it happen. The dude, We're
just gonna have to keep flying on the dude.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
How many times anybody calls him mister Lebowski the dude,
that's the dude. Man.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So he tells his friends about this. Obviously, Walter the
Vietnam Vet is not really on board. He's kind of like,
just like they could steal the money in some way
or weasel or do something.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
They could turn this to their advantage exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
So he kind of puts that bug in in the
dude's head. And they go to give this money to
to the Ransomers, but they throw out like Walter's bag
of socks instead and they crash the car blah blah
blah blah blah whatever. So basically they've given the Ransomers
I just love where you think he's gonna be like,
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because you know he's a vet Oi shit, he should
be able to do something. He buses it, jumps out,
and the package goes with the holds his gun goes
and starts shooting. Shoots. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't. It
doesn't really work out the greatest. So they give the
ransomers like the fake money and stuff like that, and
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then we learn a lot of people are upset here
because hold on a second. The big Lebowski's upset because dude,
you were supposed to give them this money. What happened
to it? Where'd you take it? We'll get to the
money later then, like the the Russian dudes whoever a
German dude, German, Yeah, they're upset because they didn't get
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their money, so they're not going to give Bunny back.
And everyone's upset basically, and the Lebowski's targets skinnapp sorry,
the dude's targets get and stolen whatever, And the plot
is crazy, like a million signs firing. It is like
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a million different things, right, and the money that they've
supposedly taken, the million dollars, is also gone with it, right,
So this isn't This isn't good for anyone. So now
the German dudes are going to take away his Johnson
and and basically kill him if he doesn't give them
their money back, and Bunny's gonna die, and the big
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Lebowski is going to who was his wife? And if
the dude's dead, they can't really participate in the bowling league,
so no one, no one wins, right exactly. You know,
there's this funny line where you know, he says, I
don't need your sympathy, I need Mike Johnson. That was
pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
And also they called it a marmot when they go
torture in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Definitely ferre. It's definitely a ferret. Yeah, fair, That's what
I thought. Yeah, which almost makes it funny, it's funnier, Yeah, exactly. No,
it's again if he a marmott is a pretty obscure animal,
so it makes in my opinion, it makes them almost
look smarter that he thought it was that animals, because
like if you, I guarantee you, if we went and
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did like a like a general like una with people
and like, what's a marmot?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You know, I feel like a lot of yeah, people
aren't gonna know. They might have heard of it, but
they're not gonna know how weird beaver like. Yeah, to
be fair, that whole scene just kind of felt a
little bit stupid to me because somebody dropped a ferret
in my bathtub. I'm not that worried, Like ferrets aren't.
Like I've held ferrets before.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Have you ever been naked in a above water with
an animal that hates water? He possibly has brabies hate water.
I'm assuming that if you dropped a ferret into a
dirty bathtub that would hate you. I don't you want
to try it? All right? Take your pants? All right?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
We should get the ferret first, Maggie. Uh no, I
just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I feel like a ferret's like aggressive little thing. They
have like little claws.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, but like that's not that bad. All you gotta
do is grab it with one hand and hold it
like this, and it's fine. I don't know, man, that
scene felt weak to me. I'm like, why are you
freaking out? It's a fucking faret. Just grab it with
one hand, You're fine.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I thought I thought that scene was pretty funny, man.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Oh it's funny, but it's also ridiculous. This whole movie
is ridiculous. Yeah, that's true. I can't argue with that.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I should have been called the ridiculous Labowski, the ridiculous six,
oh Man seven, the ridiculous six. We should have done
this in a bowling alley. What are we doing? Which
I know the owners of the two bowling alleys in town. Yeah,
all right, redo, let's go. We're now here in the
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bowling alley. Green screen it. I'm gonna set my book up.
I've been saying dude a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
The word dude is used one hundred and sixty one
times in this movie.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So it's a just under two hour movie. It's like
what an hour.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Fifty something like that, or what to a minute? It'll
be about to a minute.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, that's actually not that bad.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
The effort is used two hundred and eighty times roughly
almost double, yeah, which is like what an average of
four per minute?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I would say probably three per minute, actually.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, something weird like that. I'm not going to do
the calculations.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
How many times did you say rough two internity? And
that's one hundred and twenty minutes, so that's a little
over two per minute. Yeah, that would be somewhere between
two and three a minute.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, which is a lot. You know, doesn't Sam Elliott
be like, you know, you gotta watch your language. Yeah,
that's funny. Yeah, anyways, there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
There were so many swear words at for TV. Instead
of bleeping them, they chose to rename them. So when
John Goodman says in the car saying, this is what
happens when you bleep a dude in the ass, in
the TV version, it's this is what happens when you
meet a friend in the Alps or something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what he means.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Though, so so crazy things like that were where it
were changed, just a little bit of a thing, right,
Like I I remember watching Identity Thief, which is one
of my favorite comedies of all time, on on TV
when I was younger, when I was probably twelve or thirteen,
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and there were so many f bombs in that movie,
and they didn't bleed like they bleeped them out, but
like it would just go quiet, you know what I mean.
And the movie was just constantly going quiet for a
second and it was going like this with the volume,
Yeah exactly. You know, Now the dude has to find
his car, right, And while that's going on, he also
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meets the big Lebowski's daughter, who kind of like steals
the rug back from him and does other things because
it's like a family heirloom and sentimental value exactly. And
she thinks that, you know, her father, the big Lebowski
has kind of been.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Up to some stuff, right, she's kind of sky I think, yeah,
And then she tells him all about how Bunny is
a born star and yeah, a bunch of stuff like that,
and she's pretty sure that she wasn't actually kidnapped and
she's just faking it, and he's like, well, we'd already
thought that, but I don't think so, you sure, And
she's like, but look at these people that kidnapped her,
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her co stars from some of these movies.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yes, and she's really just in a different town. She's
not like, actually kidnapped, isn't she.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, she went to Salt Lake or something to visit family.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah. Really crazy. So we kind of find out that
like removie magic and stuff that oh, hold on a second,
maybe the million dollars wasn't real, and like, I'm gonna
I'm just gonna jump ahead and go through it because
we basically learned that there was actually no million dollars
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and that the big Lebowski's daughter was right, that he
was actually in bezzling money and stealing from a charity.
And basically his master plan was to make the dude
give these guys the fake money. They'll think it's fake
uh and not like the uh. Not the big Lebowski's fault,
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because obviously it's an unemployed loser who keeps which weird
that they consider him an unemployed loser because he's really
been paid to do this. So, yeah, he's doing a job.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
What do you mean he's unemployed.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Good.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
He had one job actually this whole movie, and that
was to do that thing. And basically they are like, Okay,
we're gonna well, we'll kill the dude and I'm gonna
kill Bunny and whatever. All while this is happening, the
big Lebowski's gonna keep a million dollars. Now, he doesn't
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have to worry about his wife anymore. He can keep
a million dollars, he doesn't have to worry about the
dude messing with him anymore. His life's gonna be fine.
But the dude figures this all out, and he's like
whoa hold on a second man, Like, we better like
put an end to this, right, And so they go
and they confront the big Lebowski. You know, Bunny's there,
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she's been there kind of like chilling. He like, he
accuses him of all this stuff and tells Bunny about it,
and then Walter picks them up and accuses him of
being parallel, of faking being paralyzed, and he throws him
out of his wheelchair and realizes like, oh wait, he
actually is like actually is Like it's.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Almost like they're making fun of that, because that's that's
a classic movie trope, is they're like, wait a minute,
you lie, it's like the Scooby doo right, like he
was behind this mask and then they rip right like
they have a hunch and then it turns out the right.
And they do this a few times throughout the movie
where it's like that exact thing. It's like, wait a minute,
you're not actually paralyzeding that.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Oh you were?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, or like when he thinks he uncovers the clue and.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, exactactly.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
And that's a whole other subplot there with the with
the producer who drugs him for like no apparent reason.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Uh, it's a Hollywood producer man. Yeah, but like the
stranger things happen.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
The only thing that happens is that he gets arrested
because of it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
But like, yeah, he gets arrested.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I don't know, though, I will say there was some
nice shots in that those party scenes. Yeah, you know
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Sure, Speaking of drugs, before scenes, Jeff Bridges would ask
the Coen Brothers if they were like if he had
ripped a joint before the scene, and if the answer
was yes, he would go smoke a joint with the
Coen Brothers.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
That didn't happen, I believe it, No, no, Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Basically, what he would do is he would go like
the bathroom and he'd rub his eyes a bunch and
they'd be red and watering and and whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Wouldn't it just been easier to smoke a joint maybe?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And then and then he did, he'd do the scene.
I still got joke off someone by the way, Again,
I could told them to see that happen. That's why
I didn't. Well, I saw that joke. Oh so maybe
you didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Through the movie best faked laughing ever.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Through the movie, we kind of find out that Jeff Bridges,
although he's unemployed and doesn't really have money to do things.
You know, he's been buying things, although he's buying them
with checks that like bounce and do whatever. But you
know what I mean, like he's been living and buying
tons of drugs. So what happened? Where how is he
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affording this house and everything? That's kind of what I
always wondered. This was written in the original version of
the script for Time whatever. He's a trust fund kid.
Apparently the dude is a trust fund kid. He's the
son of the guy who invented the Rubik's cube. Is
is basically his origin story. That's the most random thing ever. Yeah,
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and that's where he's getting all this money and stuff
like that. Is his dad invented the Rubik's que There
you go.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I mean, we get a little teaser of it. And
when he's when he's sleeping with what's her face or
what's his face? Big Lebosi's daughter, when he's like, so,
what do you do or whatever, and he's like, oh,
I've done this and that, and he names a few things.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
But he was roadie for Metallica and I made up tour.
Uh what World of Dreams or something like that. I
forget what I was, but yeah, he says he was
eroding and did that. But yes, the Cohen Brothers idea,
I think it was Joel Colin's idea was he's gonna
be Yeah. Yea, so fun little fact for you there.
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Now kind of as we wrap up here, you know,
the problem with the big Lebowski's kind of solved. Whatever
his wife is is gonna be fine whatever. We know
he's a pos. But now the Germans are still angry.
They're still angry, and they they want their million dollars
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and they're gonna come after whoever they need to get it,
so whatever, they blow up the dude's car and and
then they go after them outside of the Bowling Alley
the trio, right, and and Walter won't stand right, you know,
obviously he's our Vietnam War hero and he's not gonna
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let the dude be bullied because they don't have a
million dollars and the Germans need to let go of it, right,
and so they fight to the death. Basically, Yeah, Sean
Goodman bites a dude like a guy's ear off whatever.
They Yeah, exactly they fight, they they destroy each other,
and and the trio is kind of like won the
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day they like the Lebowski trios is good, ready to go,
but then what's his face? Donnie has a heart attack
on Steve shemy he falls over.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You know what I find interesting though, Like, like you said,
the Vietnam is his whole character. And when he's like
when he sends dude to call for help, what is
he doing? He's like, we getting job before your budy.
You know, he's just staying there. It's like he's like
he's back in Vietnam.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Like it's yeah, Like I like this scene when he's
like outside the like before he destroys the card, he's
looking is a kid's name Henry? Is that his name
was his name Lenny, Lenny Henry something like that. Yeah,
uh he looks the kid. He's like you ever heard
of nom Henry? And then and then uh, Jeff Bridge
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is like, dude, what what is with any Like dude?
I love it, man like, and it's like how was
he the voice of reason? And this it's just then
it goes and smashes the car that isn't the kids.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
The kid just doesn't react. The entire time. He's like, Okay,
go smash it if you want. Yeah, exactly, I wonder.
But we never actually really find out who had the money.
There was no money, well, but there was.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
The briefcase was nothing. It was filled with newspapers and
books and and so the kid never actually had any money.
He found an empty briefcase, and so the money was
just in the account or whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Of so he didn't actually get the money yet.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Okay, he I think, I think, or I guess it
may have been cash, but it was. It was all
to the big, big, big, and that's what I'm assuming
he would have paid the dude with if they he
did give them the cashes he had in cash or whatever.
But yeah, that was the charity funds that they didn't
go to anyone. I just keep thinking of the scene
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where the door opens the other way after he's barricaded,
and I thought that was so funny. The theater was laughing,
you know, theater thanks to Coliseum Presents for putting on
such a great event last night. It was it was
awesome and it was fantastic. It was great. They did
a costume contest where they had people kind of dress
up as characters someone just Walter, and we should have
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sent Gary.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
It would have been perfect. We could have just dressed
like himself.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Exactly. I know it was. It was great. Thanks to
you guys. It was great turn at the Roxy, So
thanks for that. Go follow them costing presents. Uh, they
have an Instagram, they have a website, tons of screenings
coming up in the city. It's gonna be awesome. Yeah,
I'm excited. So Donnie's dead. Yeah, they go and his ashes.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I love the funeral scene and Walter, it's so relatable
when they're in the funeral home and they either are like,
I assume this will be on critic cardon what was
this for. It's like, we don't we don't need a
we don't need an earn. Oh well sir, we have
to send it in a proper receptacle. And then they
you know, they go back and forth with a coffee can.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So relatable. Yeah, it's so.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Freaking expensive, like just yeah, just give it, like, put
me in a coffee and I don't care I'm dead.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah exactly. So they go spread his ashes. Walter does
a nice speech that earns kind of Hamlet.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, if Shakespeare went through not and and then he
goes to throw the ashes in the wind, and they
all blab blow back and himself it's like, I don't
like he's like he's gonna spread his ashes in the
ocean like you would have wanted to. He throws them
up in the air.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And the only the only thing I would have loved
to have seen to make it make this this movie
better when they're making those kind of jokes where they're
like poking fun at the super serious scenes, is a
lot more cinematic shots, like the shooting of this is
pretty stock, right, And I would have loved like that
scene right there would have been so funny to like,
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you know, have him like step closer to the edge
and like sweeping drone shot around the front, you know,
in the cinematic music and then the moment, yeah, and
then it pushes in and he goes to and then
it just blows back.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
You know. Yeah, maybe a shot of him coffee house,
yeah exactly, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh man. Uh So they
go and they play bowling, and that's basically the end
of the movie, right. They don't really change. I mean,
they're down at a member of their bowling squad now,
but yeah, I mean obviously we're missing details and stuff
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like that, but we got the story out there.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
One thing I was thinking about doing is you're just
the white Russian every time. Yes, I'm like, so I
looked it up. What it what it is, and I'm like, oh,
that actually looks really good. I was like, I should
buy the stuff for that and we can have a
white Russian while we do the episode. But uh, our
caol is really expensive.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
They actually served them at the Roxy.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Oh really the other day. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have
one next time up.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah it was. It was really cool. Well I don't
think I don't think they have them anymore.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
No, but I mean, like, next time I'm out somewhere, Yeah, yeah,
it's awesome. We go play pool or something.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Uh yeah, we gotta do that soon. Like I said,
chemistry between the trio, it's really good, man.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean I would see more between the duo because
Donnie doesn't really have much. Yeah. Literally, his only chemistry
is to interrupt at the right time.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
You know. Yeah, but it's good. Yeah. Uh, the dude
doesn't change at all. Now, that's not really that's not
like a critique in my opinion. I think it's like
it's true to his character, and it makes this character
more real.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
I don't think it matters because the movie is still entertaining.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
If the movie was like not as entertaining, then I
would say it would matter because obviously they didn't do
that aspect of the character well. But since they did
it that way and it works, I don't have a
problem with it because obviously they succeeded. I mean, you
can break the rules if it worked.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
And I feel like the story is developed with his
character in mind that like we know our character is
not going to change, and he's just kind of like
going with the flow or whatever and abiding to life.
But yeah, like otherwise I feel like, you know what
I mean, like if it was like if he was
going through an actual hero's journey and doing something, but
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he's really kind of just like there for the ride.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So I feel, yeah, really like he's not really much
of a hero.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
He just kind of yeah, yeah, I wouldn't call it
a really yeah, he's not really a hero because he's
just like he doesn't try, Like, if we're being honest,
he doesn't really try. He's just kind of he's there,
and and that makes it more believable, right, It's not
like all of a sudden one day he got up
and had an initiative if he was just like you
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know what I mean, he just wanted his rug back, exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
I don't mean really, so Pete on your rug and
it really brought the room together. Who wouldn't want the
re band?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I don't really have anything more honestly, like this movie is.
It's funny, but there's not a lot to like. It's
funny and it's good, but there's not a lot to
critique really. I mean like it's just yeah, it just
is what it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Is, you know. Yeah, And like I said, I definitely
feel like this is an easier watching pieces. And I
again I never say that about movies. I just feel
like there's a lot of stuff in this movie that
might be better if you just like watched it just
on its own.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Individual scenes and stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
And I think it only works because it's absurd, right, Like,
it doesn't take itself seriously and it knows what it is.
And I do think like some of the dialogue is
is hilarious for how unnatural it is. It feels natural. Yeah,
it feels like a weird statement to make, but but
it's really it's just people swearing at each other and
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making absurd references that don't make sense or crazy metaphors.
But it's like exactly what you'd expect from these guys,
you know what I mean. And so I think that's
pretty commendable on the actress parts. And I think that's
pretty cool on a writing perspective, right, I think, like, oh, hey,
it's kind of awesome to see something so unconventional work
in a way that's, you know, maybe different than a
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lot of people expect.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
And I didn't really learn anything new, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Like I I've never had a white Russian before, and
I fully intend to have one.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Sure, So that's that's something we all we learned something
along the way, right. I think Jeff Bridges is a
fantastic job as the dude. I I really think he
pulls it together and it almost makes a lifestyle of
doing absolutely nothing seem almost desirable to some people, right,
And I Yeah, And CA's the thing.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I mean, when when your character doesn't really do anything
or have any initiative or any goals, I feel like
that's gonna be a hard character to act because like
most of the time when you're in a movie, your
your character or your emotions that you're portraying as the
characters come from them wanting or needing something or you
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know what I mean, And so to portrays such such
an emotionless character when emotions is like the cornerstone of acting,
it's it's really challenging.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, I don't like, I don't think emotionless is the
right word.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
But not like big outbursts and soliloquies and and and
you know things like that. Right, Like it's like you said,
it's very laid back and there's not like any like
like huge moments.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Right, It's it's more unconventional. Yeah, Like yeah, like he
is reacting and having emotions, but like like that's what
you're worried about. Like he was beat up in his
house and and swirly in his own toilet. But the
worst part about it was that's own beat on his rug.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Okay, but would you rather in your own toilet or
someone else's toilet?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
His toilet didn't look very clean. I'm gonna be honest, Water, Look,
this toilet did not look clean whatsoever. I would I
would just rather not have my head in the toilet, Like.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
If someone was going to swarly. If I was gonna
swirly you right now, there's no way you got out
of it. Would you rather be swallow it in your
own toilet or Gary's toilet? My toilet exactly?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
But again, if my toilet had looked like that toilet,
I would have said curious, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I don't think it was.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I just know the state of my toilet because I
cleaned it yesterday, so I kind of I kind of
I kind of know what the state of it's looking like.
His toilet had never been cleaned.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I just got a new toilet. Yes, yes, yes, it
was very fun, Yes, very comfortable. I think I wish
you had one of those extendable you know, bidet things
where they're like like in the toilet bowl and like
when you flush, it like shoots out and then a day. No,
I don't, I'm saying I wish it had one of those.
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Why because it would be fun.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Oh it's not like the feeling of like the water kissing.
Why you like that's so gross? No, I like actually
can't stand the days like it's actually kind of gross
to me. Oh, I just the feeling would be so gross.
Of like you know when you like it like a
big one in there. Yeah, and it flashes up on
the water and you're.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Like, oh, you can get heated.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Be days. No, I just like so weird, man like white,
just like a normal person, or go sit in the
shower for a minute, like I just like like, I
just like so weird. No, But day's three you dog? Sorry? Yeah,
I mean I really don't have much to say. It's absurd,
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it's wacky. It's yeah, like I don't know, I think
it's it's definitely an enjoyable watch. I don't think it's
like anything too crazy, but I can see why for
a lot of people this has been like a really
enjoyable movie to go back to and and and rewatch
and and have a little bit of fun, right, and
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and I think some of those some of those things
that like are just stupid and absurd or just like
what makes some of these movies kind of special? Right?
And yeah, all right, let's rate it and get out
of here. Do you read it seven h seven and
a half for me? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's fun, it's stupid,
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it's enjoyable. Yeah, it's not all over the place. It's
just say, it's just it's just crazy. It's a cluster,
you know. Yeah, And I think there is some just
really funny moments. I I've been thinking like consistently about
how he beer it's the door and it opens the
other way. I just think that's so good, dude, Like,
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I just like.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
It's it's such good writing and filmmaking too. Come up
with something out like that. Yeah, just that's half the
battle is writing comedy like that exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, and it works. So that's that's basically all I
have me too. Cool. Well, thank you guys for watching
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haven't seen that yet, go see some of our discussions
on there. Obviously in our one best make sure we
did talk about that forbit in some of our predictions.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Lots of fun trivia in there. I make sure we
kept all the Tribune in the cutdown, so we cut
four and a half hours down into two hours.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
So yeah, something like that. I don't know. That was
a lot quick math. Anyways, Thank you guys very much
for watching. We hope you have a great rest of
your week. We'll see you next Tuesday for our next movie,
which we will reveal on our Instagram Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
So thank you all for watching. Reveal it the day
after bye.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, the day after no, like the day after this
next episode dropped.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Oh, I see what you Yeah, and I really like I.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Was just saying things. I have no idea when we're
revealing the next thing. I just said Wednesday was the
date the Bye. I'm keeping at it.