April 15, 2025 • 47 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
And now time for the viewing room with Adam and Eton.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome to the viewing Room, where we talk about films
new and old, local and global. Adam, we're in a
pretty special place today, Hey, yeah, we are.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, as you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Look around and notice behind us, we are at Dakota
Dunes Casino and Resorts. Here in white caps of sketchwhen
this is a pretty special episode.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, this is our first on location exciting, you know,
kind of new thing we're doing, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And here's the thing. This has been in the works
for quite a while. It all started when I had
this idea. Maybe it came to me in a dream.
I don't know, it's very mystic, actually, but I kind
of decided that, hey, maybe we should go onto location
and talk about a movie kind of like that that
location we're at.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So we're at the casino.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
As you've probably seen by the title, we are doing
Ocean's eleven.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Not the only choice. I mean, that's it's one of
the best casino movies ever.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, you could make some argues about other movies, but
I mean, come on, this kind of felt like the
most national progression too, you know, like it's an iconic book. Yeah,
Ocean's eleven released on December eleventh, two thousand and one.
This is the same day that the People's Republic of China
joined the World Trade Organization of a funas Yeah, I
don't know that. Yeah, so, coming in with a budget
(01:37):
of eighty five million US dollars, it did gross more
than fifty million at the US box office.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Kind of an interesting thing.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I was thinking about this eighty five million US dollars.
Imagine what that would have custom make now, not just
with inflation, but like, yeah, all these cast members too.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's the thing. It's like, eighty eighty five million dollars
to do a two hour movie with this.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Cast, right, is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
A lot of the cast actually took pay cuts to
help bring down the overall budget, which I think is
pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And that tells that that really makes sense when you
look at the passion that that's in this movie. Like
we always we always talk about it, you can tell
when a movie was made for the love of making
a movie and not just absolutely you know, because somebody
wanted to make a movie, right, yeah, you know, and
this is one of those movies where it really comes
to them.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, I know it, and I think the proof is
in the pudding, right, Like you have all these awesome actors,
you know. Funny we were talking about this, Matt Damon
is just kind of so different this movie to me
because it's just.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Like seeing Young Stone while Matt Damon, it's just there
has always been a thing, right O.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Great, let's talk about some casts. I'm not going to
go through the casts. That's who're done it. I wrote
down the whole cast. I took notes today. That is
this is this is That's how special this episode is
is this man took notes, which is very impressive. So
talking about her cast, we got George Cooney who plays
Danny Ocean. Yeah, we got Brad Pitt who plays Rusty,
and Matt Damon who plays Lioness.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Those are are kind of our three main character was
also in this casey affleck Brother. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, there's a lot of on Cheetle. But he was
uncredited in this one. He was I was reading it
was he was uncredited in this one because there was
like a dispute about who was going where in the title.
He was credited in Oceans twelve and thirteen, but not
in eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, very interesting how he came back for the sequels credited,
But yeah he was not, and that's a great fact
that I had to share.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
But he beat me to the yet see what happens
on I take notes.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I know this is like throwing me off my game,
so that I'm like, no, I AC should have done
double the preparation.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I feel like, okay, so let's talk about some characters. Well,
maybe talking to a snopsis.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I knew a fact about the guy who plays end
as well. Shoot it so he was he was He's
a member or was a member of the Pecking Acrobats,
which is like a Chinese acrobat company that basically a
circus sort of thing. And this was actually his film.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Debut, really good for him.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
They were rehearsing and somebody spotted him and he was
like they were like.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Hey, he shout an edition for this movie. Yeah that's
really cool. Yeah that's actually really awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And and yeah it's like I guess it could I
bet the courtortion and stuff was real, all right, I bet, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's like a guy doing his own sons, but like
really doing his own sons.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
That stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
As cool as it is, it also kind of freaks
me out in real life, like like just being able
to do that with your body.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah. Well, and apparently with this I was reading up
on the the this Acrobat Troop or whatever, because I'm like, well,
what is that. Apparently part of the philosophy with them
is like they're supposed to every generation of of the
troop is supposed to improve on it, so they're always
like pushing the envelope.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Like, so, I don't know, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah, touching my toes is a feet already for me.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Okay, I'm gonna read through the characters. Okay, So we
have Tests. She is Danny's ex wife. Okay. We have Terry.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He owns like casino and he's like currently dating, so
I was like engaged or whatever to Tests. We have Frank,
who is like a dealer who gets transferred over from
wherever he is to it was wherever else they are.
It's a Vegas basically for the Blaggio. We have Yen,
the contortionist amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
We have Basher, who is like the electrician aka don
cheatless expert. Yeah, safecracker. We have the twins Virgil and
I forget the other one's name, it was Virgil and Turk.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
We have Ruben, who is like kind of like the funder,
and we have Saul, who's like the decoy man grifter. Now,
Saul is my favorite character in this whole film is
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I really like Ruben. Yeah, Ruben is one of my favorites.
And of course you also got Livingston Livingston Dell as well.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yes, that's why I didn't. I didn't write down.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's directed by Stephen Soderberg, who you might recognize as
the person who directed Black Bag.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
This year, Yes, amongst many many other people, have an
episode coming out in a couple of weeks real soon.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
We've already recorded that episode. We're kind of just trying
to make space and in our little timeline.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So, yeah, Black Bag was a very positive movie.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And we're very, very excited to get that one on
the road and going for you guys here, I flicks
my micro so I hope that it wasn't the negative. Sam,
I'm gonna read a snoposis here and then we'll we'll
get into it.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Now, I want a McDonald's breakfast, sanwhich I told you
these TVs, these massive TVs in front of us are
going to be a distract.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
They're too big, too great.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
The advertising step perfect we're going to be winning so much.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I mean, you never know. You never know. You've had
pretty good luck at this casino. So maybe it's something
in the air here, you know it's this casino.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, a lot of hands of black jacket gone down here,
family traditions perhaps, Okay. Ocean's eleven film synopsis certain six
six eight.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I got that.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, I definitely turned your phone vibrator. I just did.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Dapper Danny Ocean is a man of action. Less than
twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Into his parole from a New Jersey penitentiary, the rye
charismatic thief is already rolling out his next plan.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
He flows three rules. One if you not hurt anybody.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Two do not steal from anyone who does not deserve it,
and three play the game like you have nothing to lose.
With these in mind, Danny works to orchestrate the most sophisticated,
elaborate casino heist in history, targeting three establishments owned by
the man who is dating his.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Ex wife yump.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So yeah, we kind of start out Danny is kind
of talking to some parole officers before he's let out.
There was actually an original scene here where you basically
like it's kind of sly with them, ask them how
much they make.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I love the scene where he's where it was like
where he I love the scene where he's talking to
his parole officer on the phone and he's like, you know, like, no, sir,
I haven't been getting into trouble. No, no, sir, I
haven't been drinking. No, I wouldn't even dream of leaving
the States in Vegas. You know, that's just the kind
(07:51):
of writing in this. It's just snappy and you know,
and then.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well acted, yeah, exactly, And apparently they it to make kind.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Of more of George Cloone's character be even more sly,
and so he was gonna ask his parole officers how
much they make and stuff like that. But apparently if
you ask a parole officer how much they make, you'll
be denied parole.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
That's like just like a thing.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't know if it's a New Jersey thing or
like around the world thing, but apparently that's considered disrespectful
enough to get your parole denied.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Hey, I mean, it kind of makes sense because that
could almost be seen as like a lead into like.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Trying to bribe them, which yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Again, maybe if you paid them enough they wouldn't even
be tempted to take bribes.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So that is also probably a thing. But I don't
know the salary of a.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Parole I don't know either.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
It would have been a very informative question. Actually, I'm
just guessing that, Like it's probably not that much.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, funded, so they've probably got great government benefit, that's
very true. I don't know, man, Like i'd take sixty
a year just for good pension, you know what I mean? Like,
I don't know, I kind of I'm kind of excited
about that. Okay, Danny starts uh assembling his eleven to
(09:03):
take down the casino. Basically, this this vault has three
Las Vegas casinos that feed into it, Yeah, supporting me,
three Las Vegas casinos that feed into it, and basically
they're gonna rob it. They're gonna take the money. They
figure out that basically, well, if on a normal week
day it has sixty to seventy million dollars in it,
then hey.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
On a weekend, it's like a hundred.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, on a fight night, it just got one hundred
and sixty exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So on the big fight night coming up in two weeks,
we're gonna rob the Belagio Casino vaults, so it seem
assembles a plan.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
We're not that sounded wrong. We're not planning to rob
any casino.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, we're not. We're not We're not doing that. Okay,
I'm just trying.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
To what was I gonna say? I was? I wonder
if that's a real thing. You know, they're like they
have to have enough money in the vault to cover
every chip in play. I wonder if that's a real,
real rule. I have no idea. It seems like something reasonable,
like because theoretically, I mean not theoretically, but theoretically you
could lose every single chip, like the casino could lose
(10:08):
every single chip in play if somebody somehow won, if
something broke, somebody won everything you could theoretically, if if
that makes sense that you you know, you would have
to have that money. But I don't know if that's
a real thing. Are they made up for the purposes
of the move?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, Like, I'm not sure on those those rules at all.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I have no idea that part of it makes sense.
The other part of it so like, hey, for a
big win, can't you just tell them to come back
in two weeks with it?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I mean that that doesn't make sense too, but at
the same time there's probably roles around that, so.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, are to say, right, Yeah, besides, the RS is
there to take forty percent anyway right when you win.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So it's kind to confront Canada loottery winnings aren't taxing Canada.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
That is that is states there. Yeah, something like forty percent, right, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Something crazy, Yeah, pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It's an interesting thing here that they actually shot this
movie on location in A three the Freaksinas Blagio, MGM,
Grand the Mirage and yeah they again they shot it
mostly in on location, just like we're shooting on location
here right at the Dakota Dunes Casino. So if you
want to check out to Dakota Dunes Casino or one
of the other seven or other six casinos across the
province operated by Sega, check out Siga dot Ca. Yeah,
(11:13):
they got lots of lots of cool promotions running right now.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, big thank you to the CIA people for letting
us come here. User space very much appreciated. You know,
in Ocean's eleven, about a third of the Blaggio was
used up by the production at any single time during
like the length of production.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And that's crazy when you think about like how much
like they actually like how much money they can potentially losing,
right Like, and I'm gon who knows how much of
the eighty whatever million budget of the movie went to
like bang, but like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And and not only that, a lot of the higher
end crew actually stayed in like the fancy rooms and
stuff like that in villas, which is pretty crazy to
think about it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So I should put those towels back.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So Ocean starts kind of recruiting his team.
We kind of talked a little bit about the characters,
but basically they're gonna hire a atrician to like shut
the vault down. They're going to hire someone who can
like pocket Lift, who played by Matt Damon Lions' character.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
They need someone to fund it, so they go to Reuben.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
They need someone who's kind of inside like counting cards
doing whatever, so they get Frank to transfer over from
his casino, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We have yen.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Contortionists do they see at the circus basically two or
like the show whatever, so that they.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Can get someone to sneak into the vault.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right, we have a decoy man played by Saula who's
basically going to try and trigger the vault in some
capacity or basically get something into the vault.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You know, we have we have the security guy who's
going to monitor all the cameras.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So we have a whole team of people who are
very like there's a very specific set of skills.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I saw a video of Seth MacFarlane doing that that
monologue Kermit Choices. Oh man, I mean it.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Was so funny.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
In this, I have a very specific set of skills
with very highly intelligent people who we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So basically I'll just go through like how they actually
rob the to.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Say no, because it's like kind of like they double
the run time because they can like talk about how
they're gonna do it and then show them actually doing it.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But they also they also do like and I really
like when shows and movies do this, and they do
it with a TV show one of my probably one
of my favorite TV shows of all time Leverage, Yeah,
where instead of like describing the plan and then executing it,
they often combine it where it's them describing the plan
and they're like executing it at the same time. Like
(13:35):
the visuals or them describing me like, you know, first
we're gonna, you know, kill the power to the city,
and then we're gonna, you know, do this, And it's
showing them actually doing it as they as they voiceod
which I really like and it it just saves time,
but it also kind of it feels more suave. Yeah, right,
Like it feels like they can anticipate everything that's going
to go and they've planned it to a t.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
It makes them look cool, but it also kind of
shows how like, oh maybe like these guys are all
kind of experts in a way even when things are
going and they're still doing a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, kind of kind of right, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
They bring up winning a lot in this movie, and
I just wanted to talk because a lot of the cast,
like on their downtime actually like gambled into stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Like that, like we're going to do after this episode.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And so George Clooney actually lost twenty five hands of
Blackjack in a laurel.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
In a row. Twenty five in a row. That's not wow,
that's insane.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
He needs to get better a blackjack or something.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, yeah, pretty rough.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But that's a nice little fact that I have and
that just kind of makes me laugh every time I
hear that one.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Sure, then just casino robbed him instead of him robbing
the casino.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Basically Danny starts to get distracted. Well, they're kind of
planning to rob this casino though, because he finds his
ex wife test is at the casino. Basically, not only that,
it's not really much of a coincidence, he basically realizes, Hey,
the person dating his ex wife tests actually.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Owns this, so it's all three Terry Bennett.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, so he's a rich guy, maybe kind of a
bit of a douche. But hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Great tunes must say here at the Codeds casino.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, we got some Rick Astley in the background.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's a perfect opportunity for me to rickroll you guys,
but I'm not going to do that because I'm a
I'm a good person.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So basically we know that Tess is dating this guy
who owns all the casinos.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So is it really.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
About getting a big score or is it kind of
about getting back?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Tell me, it's not about.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Her exactly, So it's always about So we're not really
sure if if Danny is is fully doing this as
a result of his love or if he actually just wants.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Kind of money and we don't know if he's.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Going to jeopardize the team, which unfortunately he ends up
jeopardizing them a bit.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
But it's like when push comes to so Shover, you're
gonna take the girl, You're gonna take.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The money, exactly, and he wants to get both. But
you know, as Brad pixplains, some you can't. You can't have.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Both, Yeah, because if everything goes right, I don't have
to choose. But I mean, everyone goes right.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
You're talking to Danny Osha and you can have boats. Right,
It's come on, it's clooney, right, Yeah, this dude was Batman,
not the grass, not the best Batman though nipple a
very nipplely Batman.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yes, as they say, as producer Gary says, as producer
Gary maybe through that line to me.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So basically they start explaining they are going they build.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
A replica of the vaults essentially in their warehouse, and
they start by like triggering power, which turns off all
the lasers and grits and stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I have to I gotta jump in second.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Building the replica vault is one of my biggest problems.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
With this movie. Actually, really it's one of my favorite scenes.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I think it's great and it's genius, but it's one
of my problems. They don't know what the inside of
the so because they have the right, they have blueprints
from the city, but that's not going to show them
the actual window dressing. The blueprints are just going to
be the basic structure. The blueprints are not going to
show them. You know, there's four carts in the center
that look like this, The floor has this on it,
you know, the there's you know, this sort of like wall.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But they do mess up because they don't they don't
actually get the red to get.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It, but you get it.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
The only thing they get is the the floor plate
that's missing. That's the only thing.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Everything else is perfect.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And I just find that a little bit of a stretch,
Like I just I don't see how they could how
they could know it so so well, Like when.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Like someone repelling one hundred feet down in an elevator shaft
with a cord that snaps when you flick it. Yeah,
that wasn't your biggest that was your biggest problem with
this movie.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You no, that was a relatively minor problem, But it
was I don't know that one definitely.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Bugs me too, that's funny. Uh No. So as they
start going, they basically cut the power kind of freak
everyone out.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
While the fight night is going on, a whole bunch
of different things is happening. Saul is getting the briefcase
snuck in with his like family heirlooms or whatever. They
are like little gems and stuff like.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That, the contents of which is very important to me.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yes, yeah, is kind of hiding in like a lock
box kind of thing. So that's going to be brought
into the vault by some employees.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The Twins are doing some shenanigans pretending they forgot their
key cards.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And like the guys who play the Twins, like what
are their names, Casey Affleck and Scott Can those two
have so much chemistry in this, Like they pull off
that like brother bickering sort of thing. So well, it's
just beautiful hot. Well they just just roll into it
(18:43):
and just keep it going on. It's just so good.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, don Cheatle uses like emp things to like, you know,
distract everyone. Matt Damon is pretending to be from the
Gaming Commission to basically like get the dealer Frank thrown
out as a distraction because he's like been transferred and
he's actually arrested before, like all that jazz damn crack, yeah,
and all this stuff is kind of happening. But Danny
(19:09):
gets sort into a room because Terry gets someone to
beat him up basically because you know, he thinks something
fishy's going on, so he's just going to beat him
up and shake him up a little bit, trying to
get the truth out. But the guy's actually on Danny's payroll,
and so he doesn't actually his kids.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
How's the white as she's pregnant again? Just the way
I'm establishing that that back background relationship with like, we
don't need to spend any more time than that one
line on it, and you already know that prior prior, you.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Know, friendship, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And they do a good job of establishing relationships in here,
Like obviously it's very hard to fully flush out characters
in a two.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Hour movie when there's twelve of them.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
R Yeah, exactly, But.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
They do a good job kind of like entering in
that realm where we kind of feel like they're all
experts in the field and are connected to Danny.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
They are their unique personalities too. They've created twelve unique
personalities here, and they're all memorable. Like you know, well
we'll say eleven because the twins are basically the same.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
But yeah, exactly, they'll they're all unique or do something
in their own way, right. Saul is kind of like
checking out the bag, trying to see how it gets
down there, and then he has a heart attack basically,
and and the twins calm as paramedics and and take
him away.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Really awesome costume is the is the doctor? Yeah, somebody
call for a doctor.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, Brad Pick comes there as a little doctor, a
bunch of cool stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Doesn't sall play.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
A doctor in the second movie? Very research into something. Yeah,
And I was just thinking about this and and I'm
going to just bring it in here now.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
There is absurd fan fiction on this movie.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
There is.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I was going through letterbox reviews because as I got
one of my people saying and all of them were like,
all of them were like, oh wow, curse this movie
for making me like white guys so much, and like
random things like that, and like the way George Clooney
and Brad Pitt look at each other in the eyes.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Is so cute. All this oh right, all this thing.
So I started looking. I went on Google to you know,
had socks on. It was fine.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Anyways, I'm like looking at my computer and I closed
my door because I'm like, I cannot let my family
see this, right, Like, you know, but like there's a
luck there is like a whole community, like and people
still write fans fiction on Oceans eleven two day.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Dude, Like it's it's bad.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It was good.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, it's I'm on chapter four right now.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's very good, no, dude, But like, for some reason,
there is such a large community just dedicated to making
these absurd, wacky, crazy fan fictions of Matt Damon and
Brad Pitt and George Clooney doing crazy things.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah. Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Actually the number one Letterbucks comment is called the Ultimate
male fantasy movie.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, I know, I would not say that it is
the ultimate male fantasy. I mean, as much as it
might not be like you know, you know, you know,
pulling off crazy heist and stealing the guy's girl at
the same.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Time, you know that that has a little bit of
a yeah, a little bit of ye yeah, we'll be honest, which.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Is actually how I described taxes.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, well that was your tax season. Mine was a
little bit. Mine was about almost opposite of yours.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Actually, yeah, mister Owen money, who couldn't be me?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Uh no, no, no, I thought I was okay that we're
done with that.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
We don't need to talk about taxes. It's too sad
to said. So.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, George Coney kind of escapes the room because he's
not actually being like beat up, and he helps Repel
down the side of the vault and basically they break
in where Yen is and Yen's kind of opened the
door from the other side essentially, and then they.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Got it off the lazy they got to put the
bombs on either side of the door. Yeah, and then
I love this detail with the detonator. They click, you know,
it's like the moment three two one click, didn't put
the batteries and clicks click clicked, and it's like they're like,
what's going on? Was like, what about did you get
(23:27):
did you put did you bring batteries? He's like, god
damn it, and anyway, and it's just like it's like
that's so realistic that that I could just happen overlooked, right,
you know, overlooked little things. But then that also gives
Yen the time to get his hand on stocked because
they don't know and if they've blown it, then you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Right, Well here's the thing too, Like we talk about
this all the time, especially in the film industry.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Right where you plan, you plan.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I remember when we were in media school, we were
the first people to shoot and we'd shot a couple
of days early because we were so excited, ready to go.
We had a four camera ready, we storyboarded, everything was
at it. It was amazing day of where my house
we're shooting, and we forgot to bring the SD cards. Yep,
a fundamental part that you can't shoot without.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But just a tiny little thing that we overlooked.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Were still in the city. You remember when we were
shooting my final project, Oh yeah, and we drove about
a half hour out of the city do a paintball
range and we had this thing for two afternoons and
it was it was costing me, Like they gave me
a good deal, but it was still costing me because
I was a broke high school student and I forgot
the screw that holds the camera on the gimbal and
for those of you who don't know what a gimble is,
(24:33):
it's just like a stabilizer that makes your camera shots
all look nice and smooth.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And so we decided, well.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
We're here, We're not wasting another hour driving back and
forth to get a screw. So we tried to shoot
just hand held shots and as much static as we could.
And I think I used thirty seconds of footage from
that day.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, but we did have fun.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It was I'll give you I'll give you to that was.
It was a fun time on set. But little things
like that, you know, you don't you don't like see,
you don't think about it, but it can. It can
make or break a day. A little a screw, a
literal screw that big.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, you know. Yeah, it's a tough thing, right.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
And batteries. And then when they finally get into that
line there too. Again this is just the snappy writing.
There's a ninety five pound chin, ninety five pound Chinese
man on the other side of this door with one
hundred and sixty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know, it's yeah, you know, this is really good. No,
and it's just for me.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
It's one of those things, right, that's like the most
realistic detail, not the Chinese man part, but.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Like, yeah, the batteries. It's like, can you imagine if
that was that was what foiled their plan? And an
ocean swell was the same movie, but they remember the batteries.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Stare like it's the next day, Yeah, yeah, I know
it's it's it's funny because that's just super realistic works.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Sermay, it's it's hilarious. So basically, they blow up in
the vaults, they get all the money out, a.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Bunch of things happen, but things aren't really as they
seem right because as we're looking at the security footage
being terry like the casino winner, he's kind of realized
that like, oh hey, they're taking all this money out,
but they haven't taken all of it.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
They've only taken half.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
And basically he gets a call from Brad Pet's characters
saying like, hey, by the way, if you don't let
us take this all out, we're basically gonna blow it up.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
We're gonna take eighty and we're gonna leave the other
half like eighty million here booby trapped. And if you
so much as touch us or anything where we think
you're gonna we're gonna blow that, and so you can
either lose one hundred and sixty million publicly or eighty
million quietly.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, exactly what he says is very very fun, very
like kind of fun line that yeah, it's clever too,
you know life, you know. Yeah, And and basically the
terry agrees, but secretly calls the swat TEA swat team
comes and kind of like extracts the vaults that they
go in there and they find that like, oh, wait,
(26:56):
hold on a second, everything's kind of still in order
here until it explodes. A bunch of things happen, and
so the swat team extracts all the money so that
no one can take it back to the swat van.
But while this is happening, like there's a bunch of
other money from the supposedly was in the vault and
like the original eighty million dollars and it's going to
(27:17):
the airport, but it's old, rigged to blow and it's
not even money. It's actually flyers for strippers for strippers. Yeah,
and and uh oh, they kind of realized, wait, hold
on a second, this isn't the actual footage. So they
realized that the footage was hijacked essentially and recreated in
the vault and the SWAT.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Team because they had eleven little detail of they missed
the floor plate because it.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Was held on Tuesday, Yes, exactly, so very interesting thing to.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Have a floor plate forstall and sell it in the
casino is such a random thing.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
All The only person who sees that is like the
people the managers who go down and deposit the money,
which is funny. But anyways, we we do kind of
see like, oh, this ain't great, and the SWAT team
turns out to be out eleven teams. They head out
and and kind of run off with the money and
kind of end off with a fountain scene where everyone
(28:07):
kind of silhouetted. Super awesome shot at the fountains there.
I went to Vegas last summer. I loved that place,
and and it's kind of like, hey, hold on a second,
this is like the nicest, most sweet moment of the
whole film for me. And then they all leave quietly
and just kind of like part ways one last time
into Luzi cool, right, And you know that was actually
(28:29):
the very last thing they shot up the whole production,
And apparently it was really sad.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
For a lot of people, which obviously, when you do.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Film something for a couple of months, right, you kind
of get a little family going, right, you're living with them.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Like this one was a very close knit like they
wanted to be there.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
It was a fun time, lots of chemistry between the
actors who would hung out and talk.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's it's it's awesome to see kind of stuff like that, right,
you know. Carol Reiner is actually like my favorite character
in this film, like like Saul and a lot of them,
you know, would listen to stories because he's obviously the
oldest guy. Fortunately, Carl did pass away I think four
years ago, five years ago, something like that, unfortunately, but
he was he lived a long life, super old, and
he had some really great stories obviously, some great movies.
(29:11):
So it was it was really great to see him
like do a really great job in his film. It's
just such an awesome time, right, And.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's it's a nice ending to the movie. And and
and that then the very final scene there where Danny
Ocean finally gets out of prison again after parole obviously,
so he gets out of prison again and and Tess
is waiting for him with with Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, it's basically George Clooney exposes that, like, oh, he
would give up tests for eighty million dollars basically, even
though he is way more money than that, and it's
only like a little dent in his like overall funds.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yes, and and.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He would have insurance anyways, So that part doesn't make
super sense to me anyways, because a lot of these
guys would just have insurance for that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah. Well even even Tess even mentions it in Ope
and she's like, you know, these guys have insurance. They
get get it back, they get back what they lost.
But I didn't get back what I lost, you know,
I get back to five years that.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I lost or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Right, So I don't even know why he would be like, yeah,
did you give that eighty million dollars back?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I'll give up tests. It's like like, what, like, brother,
just file it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Actually, you know what insurance is really tough, So you
know what, I agree, you know, But no.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I mean it's a nice it's a nice ending in
the movie, and I no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, they drive off, but the bodyguards of Terry's are following.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Them, so bump bump bums.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
The opening of ocean swealth. Anyway, we'll get into those.
It's an overall, it's a nice ending. Well, before we
get into the kind of the analysis of the movie here,
let's let's stick a minute to hear about what's going
on at Ciga.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Let's do it eight.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
What are you doing this Saturday?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Well, Adam, I'm glad you asked. I'm actually gonna be
going to one of Ciga's seven casinos across the province
to enter reveal your award mystery prize draws.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Well, that sounds pretty sweet.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well, basically, there's a draw every Saturday, five of them actually,
from now until the end of May.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Okay, how do I get in on it?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Well, you gotta do is little rewards card Mine's green,
super shiny, pretty awesome, and swipe it out the kiosk.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, I don't have one of those though.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Okay, well, don't worry. It takes two minutes, plus it's
completely free.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh okay, Well, let's finish this up so I can
go get one and get some prizes.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Nineteen plus please play responsibly.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Another thing that's kind of interesting is Steven Soderberg wanted
this movie to be black and White.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
You know what, I'm interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
This leads into this movie is based in part on
a move from the sixties by the same name, and
it was Frank Sinatra playing Daniy Ocean in the rat Pack.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You know, that's the only character's name that's the same
by Yeah, And that's.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
The thing is, so I was like looking up because
I haven't seen that original one, and so I was
looking up the general plot of it, and it's it's
not really the same. So with the one from the sixties,
it's Frank Sinatra playing Dany Ocean and he gets eleven
years old war buddies together and they rob five Vegas
casinos on New Year's Eve one night. And I mean, like,
(32:03):
the really, the only elements that are saying is Danny
Ocean getting a crew of eleven people and robbing casinos
in Vegas. Be those are both the three elements that
are that are that are just based on the overall
plot that are that are continuous. And I don't like it,
you know. It's that's the thing that I have a
problem with, especially nowadays when they're doing remakes of everything.
(32:24):
It seems like all your new movies are just remakes
of older movies, and when they when they don't remake it,
which they almost ever do, it's just it's just marketing. Really,
it's just a marketing boost because you can't come up
with the story of your own that's good's and that
that's my problem with it, is like, you know, don't
call this Oceans eleven. Then you know, rename him from
(32:47):
Danny Ocean. You can still tell the same story, but
just don't don't name it Oceans eleven, because now people
are gonna go, oh, Ocean's eleven. In this case, probably
not because I don't think most people know the sixties
version of this movie. But it's just kind of the
haven't like yeah, right, Like it's not a huge draw,
but like in in in modern in modern days, I
(33:10):
think it happens.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
More, you know, yeah, no, And.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's very interesting to see how many renditions of this
movie they are, Like, actually, when you search up Oceans eleven,
the first thing that happens is when they did the
whole female one, and that's the first one that that
bombs up. And then Ocean's eleven, then Ocean's twelve, even
though he typed in Ocean's eleven, and then the original
which is super weird when you type it.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
In, which is like crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I don't know. I haven't seen the female one, so
I can't comment on that one.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Oh, Like yeah, it's just interesting to see all the renditions, right, yeah,
I'm trying to see here, h we're talking about being
black and white, right, yeah, But I.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Mean I can see why if he's trying to keep
some of the elements from the first one, that's why
he'd want it black and white, like bringing that back.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Sure, and does that help produce costs? And I how
produce costs there?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I mean, are you actually gonna shoot it in black
and white? Are you just gonna put it a black film? Right?
He actually wanted to put it on film?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Well, I think it was film, wasn't it. I don't know.
That's why I thought it was that.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
That one you're kind of in that transition ere there.
It could have been digital, it could have been filmed.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, I want to say it was film. I say
film because they do that really choppy slow mo stuff
with you screams film. Yeah, in my opinion, that just
seems like it.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Looks pretty good for film. Actually, Like you know, you
could you could fool me.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, but I mean we're probably also watching I guess
like a h D version like gotta like maybe redid
a little bit for uh yeah, but you.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Still you still you can't.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's like you know, when you you know, you can
make a video from the nineteen fifties four K, but
it's still doesn't look Yeah, yeah, I got what I mean.
It's yeah, yeah, that's fair. You're not adding any more information.
You're just instead of one pixel, it's the same pixel
becomes four pixels of the same color.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, yeah, I guess that is that is fair. Yeah,
technically you're kind of getting washed out a little bit
on some of the details.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
For me, you're a larger rainey, right, you know, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Uh. An interesting fact too, Blaggio, like the Bgio let
the actual crew use not like real security footage, but
like tap into their security like cameras and stuff to
get footage there, like.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Which I think is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
It's clever.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I think that's like a nice little way of like
making it a kind of realistical, like you put your
extras in somewhere and Duke and of that stuff kind
of has a real vibe and I think, yeah, that's
that's a really awesome thing.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Do you have any other things?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
A couple of things continuity errors. There's one in particular,
and I've noticed this the last two times i've watched
this movie, because I've watched this movie a lot. The
scene where Saul is getting his briefcase put in the
vault and they're watching on the cameras. The security guy
or the head of the security casino manager, mister Walsh,
(35:49):
is there with Saul. You know, okay, your brief face
is being putting it put in, And at the same time,
Brad or Matt Damon is running his n GC scam
on on Benedict with Frank throwing Frank out of the casino.
And the guy throwing Frank out of the casino is
mister Walsh, the casino manager. So he's in two places
(36:10):
the same time. So that's one one thing that it's like,
it's kind of obvious, you know, And I didn't notice
it the first couple of times I watched it. But
once you've watched the two or three times, you've noticed
start to notice a little things like that that's just like, oh,
it just you know, it's so good. And then you
used to notice something like that, and there's other little
things like that. There's that one, and then the other
one that I noticed was, you know when they pulled
(36:34):
the switch in the vault where they have the normal
bags of money and then they have the black bags
with the X on them that are filled with the
more stripper flyers that they leave in the vault to
be blown up. Yeah, how did they get those in there?
I'm not sure they didn't. They never showed because when
(36:54):
Swat came in, they weren't carrying them and they never
took them in when they were dropping on the elevator shaft,
So how did and it didn't go in with yen,
So how did they get those in there?
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Well, wouldn't it just didn't they just do that in
the recreation then?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
No, because remember they they that was what they actually
left in the vault because they took the full hundred
and sixty million out as SWAT guys and they left
that in the vault to.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Blow Yeah, but that was the recorded one. No, it wasn't.
Oh I thought it was the recorded No.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Remember, at the very end he walks in to the
vault and because at the same time that they hijack
the van or the band blows up and he's.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Like, oh, oh Arry realizes that the money and then.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
He goes into the into the into the the casino's like, yeah,
there's there's no money here either. It's just flyers for strippers.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I don't know, it's it's just little things like that,
like oh.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You know, there's there's more little ones though, like when
you think about it, because like the fountain scene, there's
like weird editing there. Sometimes there a character turns around
and then cuts back to a different angle and then
they actually turn around there.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean, even with Bradfanoye, who's always eating in this movie.
That's the other thing is there's times where like his
food placement or his stuff isn't the same every time.
You know, like in one angle he's got you know,
he's just taking a bite. At the next angle he's not,
or something like that. You know, Like there's just little
little things and is it a big deal? Not really,
(38:21):
but like carrying attention to detail, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, yeah, And I think there is a lot of
carry in this movie, but there is unfortunately that little
things like that slip the cracks.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
But I mean you kind of have to really look
for them.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
That's not a first or even a second watch thing.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
That's like, you know, yeah, fourth, fifth watch. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
No, this movie for me is very well done. The
snappy dialogue is a is a big.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Thing for me.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Chemistry with the actors, chemistry feels good. Oh, It's just
the only thing I don't really love is don Chield's accent.
I wasn't like a huge, a huge fan of I know.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
A lot of people don't like it, but personally I
find it entertained. It's funny, it's funny, but I can
see why people don't.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
It just feels oddly comedic for what the actual rule is.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I mean, it's just sort of you know, cockney, but
it needs to some funny moments when he's like, you know, sure, no,
you know, unless you know, you gotta whatever wearing Bonnie
or whatever brother.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Got the big Bonnie.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
You're gonna Bonnie Bonnie.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Trouble, Yeah, trouble, whatever, trouble. You know.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
It's like he wanted to change his accent for the sequels,
but his managers wouldn't let him.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Apparently he does it pretty well. I don't I don't
think it's like terrible.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I just know I'm not a huge I'm not a
huge fan of it, and like I liked on Cheetle,
I'm like, hey, come on, man, like you don't no voice.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Is like actually like pretty great, So what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Like to me, that's like like I don't know, Morgan
Freeman just coming on and all all of a sudden's
starting to do an Irish impression like you're Morgan Freeman,
just like just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
This movie is clean, it's clever, it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
It's just it gives me goosebumps sometimes, like when I
think of the dialogue and stuff like that, and how
snappy it is and how active the world feels almost
like every scene there's movement, things are happening, and I
don't know, I like it. I like how it feels
like we kind of talked about how in Black Bag
there's a lot of that handoff aspects, and I feel
like this is like Steven Soderberg's style, where like a
(40:18):
lot of it is always going right, We're flowing and
stuff like that, and there's no like there's no time
for necessarily like being static. Yeah right, And so a
lot of times you look at that and you're like, Okay,
maybe the steaks are a little low, right because he
doesn't want any of the characters get to hurt. But
they do in decent job, like establishing stakes when they
show how many times casinos have failed to been robbed
(40:40):
in the past, right, right.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
So it's like the close to miscat last, gay I
tasted fresh oxygen and then take my breath.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Uh, yes, exactly, you know what, Like for me, that's
pretty much all I have right now.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I've got a few more things like the the just
a couple of things of music in this. Again, it
feels very similar to the TV show I like Leverage,
which came after this. So it's you know, but still
it's just it's so like kind of sly and like,
you know, like it really helps sell the plotting and
the scheming. You know, it's not like grand and cinematic.
(41:15):
It's just kind of you know, I don't even how
to describe it. It just it just really helps sell the
sell the movie overhaul. You know, y pacing is really good.
You know, it's a two hour movie and it at
no point to you're like, oh my god, this is
a long movie. You know, it's just it flows and
it this is him writing, and writing really helps out.
The acting is good.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I had to complain, Okay, I'm not a fan of
the old time he's choppy slow motion. That's very happy
that after after like I said this yesterday, after Sam
raiming a second Spider Man movie, we.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Stopped doing that.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
This emotion's fine, but like the really choppy slow emotion
where the film is faded like.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
That and weird and it's just awkward to me.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Just I've never I've never liked the way that's looks,
no matter how silistic you try to make it in
any movie. I've just never been a fan of that.
You're gonna do some motions like just yeah, get the
frame right up, do something, but like I know, it's
hard to do that stuff with film and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
And it's very stylistick and pool. But I've just I
don't know, I've never been a personal fan of.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
That stuff, and it's just been it's just been one
of those things where even when I saw it last
night and then when the train station when like they're there, I'm.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Like, like, guys, this is not this is not the
way you know what.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I mean, like one of the things the other things
I was going to bring up is delighting, Like it's
the hotel always has kind of sort of a yellow
tinge to it, and it just kind of almost gives
us some more of an old timing vibe, which again
I can see why if he couldn't go black and white,
or they wouldn't let him go black and white, he
would try and still go for that. And it does
(42:48):
feel like a bit of a throwback almost, like just
certain some of the way that they they act and
talk and and just kind of everything just feels like
a little bit of a throwback.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's true to the.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Source, right, Like I said, I walked through so many
of those casinos in vegue As when I was there,
and went to the bolage Gio and like the Rolex
stores and stuff, the things I couldn't afford or even
think about going into. Right, do all those things seeing
the fountain shows they're all very yellow and like the
one hotel, right, they have all those yellow light bulbs at.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
The top, right, probably from all the smoking, if we're
being honest, right, like everything just not stayed yellow right
when they built it was probably white.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
It used to be blue, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's
funny man. Okay, well, I mean that's all I have.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, one more thing that I had see. I took notes,
and now I have a lot to talk about.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
This is most impressive.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I kind of feel bad for Benedict in a way, okay, slightly,
and the the movie tries its best to make you
not feel bad for him, you know, but at the
same time, you mean Terry, Yeah, Terry Benedict.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yes, sir, I've been calling him Terry, so just like
the owner of the casino.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, as much as he is the bad guy in
the movie, he hasn't done anything wrong. He owns three
legitimate casinos. He's made his fortune legitimately more mostly legitimately.
I mean, you know, the cliches of a business. But
we have no evidence that he's done anything illegal. Sure,
(44:19):
and this dude comes along and takes his girlfriend away
and steals one hundred and sixty million dollars from him. Yep,
and all you do was trying to stop him. I mean,
can you really blame the guy for being mad? No?
Speaker 3 (44:34):
I agree, I like you know and.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Like and they having like tests be part of the
story makes really helps the audience feel more on of
Danny's side, Danny Ocean's side. But like, when you really
stop and think about it, who's the bad guy in
this story?
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah? No, no, for sure, I think they also try
to do it.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
They try and make it that thing where we're like, okay,
well he would give up tests for money, so that makes.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
You he did do little things like that or like
you know, like run and.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Hide, loserbody hide or whatever.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
You know. Like, so there's there's certain things, That's what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
They try.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
And his philosophy though it does say it like he
only steals some people who deserve it.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
So maybe that's where the the water is cloudy. Yeah,
the Robin Hoodie intelligencause.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Maybe he's like, oh hey, like maybe he thinks this
guy deserves it but for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah, you know what I mean. That's still some of
the more contention comes with brad Bitt.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
But yeah, two more favorite moments done Cheetle in the
hotel watching the desert in fall on on TV.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Well, he's a real thing, but you can see him
behind it.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
He's like, and then you can see the hotel falling
in the.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Back of that. That's so good.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
And then also the the one line with Rubin when
they have that first meeting at his house, and then
Matt David's character is just kind of sitting off to
the side and he's like, Hey, you're Bobby Godwill's kid. Yeah,
and how's you know, there's a little bit of small talk.
He's like, that's nice getting the goddamn house.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
You know. Yeah, it's just like yeah, like that. Yeah,
that was brack this up a bit. Yeah, that's kind
of all I have. Man, I'm at a notes now. Again.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
We just wanted to say a huge, massive thank you
to the Dakota Dunes Casino and Resort for having us
here filming.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
It's been an incredible episode, and.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Thank you so much to Seegu for letting us come
here and make a ruckus and and just have a
good time.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
It means a lot that we were able to do
this on location, and hopefully we can make this a
bit of a tradition.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Right So yeah, I know for sure, and we're gonna
we'll come back for Oceans twelve and.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Thirteen, yes exactly. Now, before we go play some slots,
let's give it our final rating.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yes, eight point eight.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Eight point eight, Well, pardon we wanted to give it eleven.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Jenny, that's clever, that's clever.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
It's an eight for me. I think it's a really
solid movie that flows super well. Maybe an eight and
a half even, but I don't know after this side
in the car on the way back, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Man, let's go play some you just watched the viewing room.
You guys have a fantastic day. We do have an
Instagram at the viewing room monitors score. Thank you again,
Casiga and to go to Dunes Casino and Resort for
having us out here.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
All right, let's go
And now time for the viewing room with Adam and Eton.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome to the viewing Room, where we talk about films
new and old, local and global. Adam, we're in a
pretty special place today, Hey, yeah, we are.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, as you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Look around and notice behind us, we are at Dakota
Dunes Casino and Resorts. Here in white caps of sketchwhen
this is a pretty special episode.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, this is our first on location exciting, you know,
kind of new thing we're doing, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And here's the thing. This has been in the works
for quite a while. It all started when I had
this idea. Maybe it came to me in a dream.
I don't know, it's very mystic, actually, but I kind
of decided that, hey, maybe we should go onto location
and talk about a movie kind of like that that
location we're at.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So we're at the casino.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
As you've probably seen by the title, we are doing
Ocean's eleven.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Not the only choice. I mean, that's it's one of
the best casino movies ever.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, you could make some argues about other movies, but
I mean, come on, this kind of felt like the
most national progression too, you know, like it's an iconic book. Yeah,
Ocean's eleven released on December eleventh, two thousand and one.
This is the same day that the People's Republic of China
joined the World Trade Organization of a funas Yeah, I
don't know that. Yeah, so, coming in with a budget
(01:37):
of eighty five million US dollars, it did gross more
than fifty million at the US box office.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Kind of an interesting thing.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I was thinking about this eighty five million US dollars.
Imagine what that would have custom make now, not just
with inflation, but like, yeah, all these cast members too.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's the thing. It's like, eighty eighty five million dollars
to do a two hour movie with this.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Cast, right, is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
A lot of the cast actually took pay cuts to
help bring down the overall budget, which I think is
pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And that tells that that really makes sense when you
look at the passion that that's in this movie. Like
we always we always talk about it, you can tell
when a movie was made for the love of making
a movie and not just absolutely you know, because somebody
wanted to make a movie, right, yeah, you know, and
this is one of those movies where it really comes
to them.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, I know it, and I think the proof is
in the pudding, right, Like you have all these awesome actors,
you know. Funny we were talking about this, Matt Damon
is just kind of so different this movie to me
because it's just.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Like seeing Young Stone while Matt Damon, it's just there
has always been a thing, right O.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Great, let's talk about some casts. I'm not going to
go through the casts. That's who're done it. I wrote
down the whole cast. I took notes today. That is
this is this is That's how special this episode is
is this man took notes, which is very impressive. So
talking about her cast, we got George Cooney who plays
Danny Ocean. Yeah, we got Brad Pitt who plays Rusty,
and Matt Damon who plays Lioness.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Those are are kind of our three main character was
also in this casey affleck Brother. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, there's a lot of on Cheetle. But he was
uncredited in this one. He was I was reading it
was he was uncredited in this one because there was
like a dispute about who was going where in the title.
He was credited in Oceans twelve and thirteen, but not
in eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, very interesting how he came back for the sequels credited,
But yeah he was not, and that's a great fact
that I had to share.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
But he beat me to the yet see what happens
on I take notes.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I know this is like throwing me off my game,
so that I'm like, no, I AC should have done
double the preparation.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I feel like, okay, so let's talk about some characters. Well,
maybe talking to a snopsis.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I knew a fact about the guy who plays end
as well. Shoot it so he was he was He's
a member or was a member of the Pecking Acrobats,
which is like a Chinese acrobat company that basically a
circus sort of thing. And this was actually his film.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Debut, really good for him.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
They were rehearsing and somebody spotted him and he was
like they were like.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Hey, he shout an edition for this movie. Yeah that's
really cool. Yeah that's actually really awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And and yeah it's like I guess it could I
bet the courtortion and stuff was real, all right, I bet, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's like a guy doing his own sons, but like
really doing his own sons.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
That stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
As cool as it is, it also kind of freaks
me out in real life, like like just being able
to do that with your body.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah. Well, and apparently with this I was reading up
on the the this Acrobat Troop or whatever, because I'm like, well,
what is that. Apparently part of the philosophy with them
is like they're supposed to every generation of of the
troop is supposed to improve on it, so they're always
like pushing the envelope.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Like, so, I don't know, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah, touching my toes is a feet already for me.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Okay, I'm gonna read through the characters. Okay, So we
have Tests. She is Danny's ex wife. Okay. We have Terry.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He owns like casino and he's like currently dating, so
I was like engaged or whatever to Tests. We have Frank,
who is like a dealer who gets transferred over from
wherever he is to it was wherever else they are.
It's a Vegas basically for the Blaggio. We have Yen,
the contortionist amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
We have Basher, who is like the electrician aka don
cheatless expert. Yeah, safecracker. We have the twins Virgil and
I forget the other one's name, it was Virgil and Turk.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
We have Ruben, who is like kind of like the funder,
and we have Saul, who's like the decoy man grifter. Now,
Saul is my favorite character in this whole film is
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I really like Ruben. Yeah, Ruben is one of my favorites.
And of course you also got Livingston Livingston Dell as well.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yes, that's why I didn't. I didn't write down.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's directed by Stephen Soderberg, who you might recognize as
the person who directed Black Bag.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
This year, Yes, amongst many many other people, have an
episode coming out in a couple of weeks real soon.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
We've already recorded that episode. We're kind of just trying
to make space and in our little timeline.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So, yeah, Black Bag was a very positive movie.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And we're very, very excited to get that one on
the road and going for you guys here, I flicks
my micro so I hope that it wasn't the negative. Sam,
I'm gonna read a snoposis here and then we'll we'll
get into it.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Now, I want a McDonald's breakfast, sanwhich I told you
these TVs, these massive TVs in front of us are
going to be a distract.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
They're too big, too great.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
The advertising step perfect we're going to be winning so much.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I mean, you never know. You never know. You've had
pretty good luck at this casino. So maybe it's something
in the air here, you know it's this casino.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, a lot of hands of black jacket gone down here,
family traditions perhaps, Okay. Ocean's eleven film synopsis certain six
six eight.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I got that.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, I definitely turned your phone vibrator. I just did.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Dapper Danny Ocean is a man of action. Less than
twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Into his parole from a New Jersey penitentiary, the rye
charismatic thief is already rolling out his next plan.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
He flows three rules. One if you not hurt anybody.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Two do not steal from anyone who does not deserve it,
and three play the game like you have nothing to lose.
With these in mind, Danny works to orchestrate the most sophisticated,
elaborate casino heist in history, targeting three establishments owned by
the man who is dating his.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Ex wife yump.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So yeah, we kind of start out Danny is kind
of talking to some parole officers before he's let out.
There was actually an original scene here where you basically
like it's kind of sly with them, ask them how
much they make.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I love the scene where he's where it was like
where he I love the scene where he's talking to
his parole officer on the phone and he's like, you know, like, no, sir,
I haven't been getting into trouble. No, no, sir, I
haven't been drinking. No, I wouldn't even dream of leaving
the States in Vegas. You know, that's just the kind
(07:51):
of writing in this. It's just snappy and you know,
and then.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well acted, yeah, exactly, And apparently they it to make kind.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Of more of George Cloone's character be even more sly,
and so he was gonna ask his parole officers how
much they make and stuff like that. But apparently if
you ask a parole officer how much they make, you'll
be denied parole.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
That's like just like a thing.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't know if it's a New Jersey thing or
like around the world thing, but apparently that's considered disrespectful
enough to get your parole denied.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Hey, I mean, it kind of makes sense because that
could almost be seen as like a lead into like.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Trying to bribe them, which yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Again, maybe if you paid them enough they wouldn't even
be tempted to take bribes.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So that is also probably a thing. But I don't
know the salary of a.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Parole I don't know either.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
It would have been a very informative question. Actually, I'm
just guessing that, Like it's probably not that much.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, funded, so they've probably got great government benefit, that's
very true. I don't know, man, Like i'd take sixty
a year just for good pension, you know what I mean? Like,
I don't know, I kind of I'm kind of excited
about that. Okay, Danny starts uh assembling his eleven to
(09:03):
take down the casino. Basically, this this vault has three
Las Vegas casinos that feed into it, Yeah, supporting me,
three Las Vegas casinos that feed into it, and basically
they're gonna rob it. They're gonna take the money. They
figure out that basically, well, if on a normal week
day it has sixty to seventy million dollars in it,
then hey.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
On a weekend, it's like a hundred.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, on a fight night, it just got one hundred
and sixty exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So on the big fight night coming up in two weeks,
we're gonna rob the Belagio Casino vaults, so it seem
assembles a plan.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
We're not that sounded wrong. We're not planning to rob
any casino.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, we're not. We're not We're not doing that. Okay,
I'm just trying.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
To what was I gonna say? I was? I wonder
if that's a real thing. You know, they're like they
have to have enough money in the vault to cover
every chip in play. I wonder if that's a real,
real rule. I have no idea. It seems like something reasonable,
like because theoretically, I mean not theoretically, but theoretically you
could lose every single chip, like the casino could lose
(10:08):
every single chip in play if somebody somehow won, if
something broke, somebody won everything you could theoretically, if if
that makes sense that you you know, you would have
to have that money. But I don't know if that's
a real thing. Are they made up for the purposes
of the move?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, Like, I'm not sure on those those rules at all.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I have no idea that part of it makes sense.
The other part of it so like, hey, for a
big win, can't you just tell them to come back
in two weeks with it?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I mean that that doesn't make sense too, but at
the same time there's probably roles around that, so.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, are to say, right, Yeah, besides, the RS is
there to take forty percent anyway right when you win.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So it's kind to confront Canada loottery winnings aren't taxing Canada.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
That is that is states there. Yeah, something like forty percent, right, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Something crazy, Yeah, pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It's an interesting thing here that they actually shot this
movie on location in A three the Freaksinas Blagio, MGM,
Grand the Mirage and yeah they again they shot it
mostly in on location, just like we're shooting on location
here right at the Dakota Dunes Casino. So if you
want to check out to Dakota Dunes Casino or one
of the other seven or other six casinos across the
province operated by Sega, check out Siga dot Ca. Yeah,
(11:13):
they got lots of lots of cool promotions running right now.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, big thank you to the CIA people for letting
us come here. User space very much appreciated. You know,
in Ocean's eleven, about a third of the Blaggio was
used up by the production at any single time during
like the length of production.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And that's crazy when you think about like how much
like they actually like how much money they can potentially losing,
right Like, and I'm gon who knows how much of
the eighty whatever million budget of the movie went to
like bang, but like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And and not only that, a lot of the higher
end crew actually stayed in like the fancy rooms and
stuff like that in villas, which is pretty crazy to
think about it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So I should put those towels back.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So Ocean starts kind of recruiting his team.
We kind of talked a little bit about the characters,
but basically they're gonna hire a atrician to like shut
the vault down. They're going to hire someone who can
like pocket Lift, who played by Matt Damon Lions' character.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
They need someone to fund it, so they go to Reuben.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
They need someone who's kind of inside like counting cards
doing whatever, so they get Frank to transfer over from
his casino, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We have yen.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Contortionists do they see at the circus basically two or
like the show whatever, so that they.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Can get someone to sneak into the vault.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right, we have a decoy man played by Saula who's
basically going to try and trigger the vault in some
capacity or basically get something into the vault.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You know, we have we have the security guy who's
going to monitor all the cameras.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So we have a whole team of people who are
very like there's a very specific set of skills.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I saw a video of Seth MacFarlane doing that that
monologue Kermit Choices. Oh man, I mean it.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Was so funny.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
In this, I have a very specific set of skills
with very highly intelligent people who we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So basically I'll just go through like how they actually
rob the to.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Say no, because it's like kind of like they double
the run time because they can like talk about how
they're gonna do it and then show them actually doing it.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But they also they also do like and I really
like when shows and movies do this, and they do
it with a TV show one of my probably one
of my favorite TV shows of all time Leverage, Yeah,
where instead of like describing the plan and then executing it,
they often combine it where it's them describing the plan
and they're like executing it at the same time. Like
(13:35):
the visuals or them describing me like, you know, first
we're gonna, you know, kill the power to the city,
and then we're gonna, you know, do this, And it's
showing them actually doing it as they as they voiceod
which I really like and it it just saves time,
but it also kind of it feels more suave. Yeah, right,
Like it feels like they can anticipate everything that's going
to go and they've planned it to a t.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
It makes them look cool, but it also kind of
shows how like, oh maybe like these guys are all
kind of experts in a way even when things are
going and they're still doing a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, kind of kind of right, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
They bring up winning a lot in this movie, and
I just wanted to talk because a lot of the cast,
like on their downtime actually like gambled into stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Like that, like we're going to do after this episode.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And so George Clooney actually lost twenty five hands of
Blackjack in a laurel.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
In a row. Twenty five in a row. That's not wow,
that's insane.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
He needs to get better a blackjack or something.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, yeah, pretty rough.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But that's a nice little fact that I have and
that just kind of makes me laugh every time I
hear that one.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Sure, then just casino robbed him instead of him robbing
the casino.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Basically Danny starts to get distracted. Well, they're kind of
planning to rob this casino though, because he finds his
ex wife test is at the casino. Basically, not only that,
it's not really much of a coincidence, he basically realizes, Hey,
the person dating his ex wife tests actually.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Owns this, so it's all three Terry Bennett.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, so he's a rich guy, maybe kind of a
bit of a douche. But hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Great tunes must say here at the Codeds casino.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, we got some Rick Astley in the background.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's a perfect opportunity for me to rickroll you guys,
but I'm not going to do that because I'm a
I'm a good person.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So basically we know that Tess is dating this guy
who owns all the casinos.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So is it really.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
About getting a big score or is it kind of
about getting back?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Tell me, it's not about.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Her exactly, So it's always about So we're not really
sure if if Danny is is fully doing this as
a result of his love or if he actually just wants.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Kind of money and we don't know if he's.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Going to jeopardize the team, which unfortunately he ends up
jeopardizing them a bit.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
But it's like when push comes to so Shover, you're
gonna take the girl, You're gonna take.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The money, exactly, and he wants to get both. But
you know, as Brad pixplains, some you can't. You can't have.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Both, Yeah, because if everything goes right, I don't have
to choose. But I mean, everyone goes right.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
You're talking to Danny Osha and you can have boats. Right,
It's come on, it's clooney, right, Yeah, this dude was Batman,
not the grass, not the best Batman though nipple a
very nipplely Batman.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yes, as they say, as producer Gary says, as producer
Gary maybe through that line to me.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So basically they start explaining they are going they build.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
A replica of the vaults essentially in their warehouse, and
they start by like triggering power, which turns off all
the lasers and grits and stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I have to I gotta jump in second.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Building the replica vault is one of my biggest problems.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
With this movie. Actually, really it's one of my favorite scenes.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I think it's great and it's genius, but it's one
of my problems. They don't know what the inside of
the so because they have the right, they have blueprints
from the city, but that's not going to show them
the actual window dressing. The blueprints are just going to
be the basic structure. The blueprints are not going to
show them. You know, there's four carts in the center
that look like this, The floor has this on it,
you know, the there's you know, this sort of like wall.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But they do mess up because they don't they don't
actually get the red to get.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It, but you get it.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
The only thing they get is the the floor plate
that's missing. That's the only thing.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Everything else is perfect.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And I just find that a little bit of a stretch,
Like I just I don't see how they could how
they could know it so so well, Like when.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Like someone repelling one hundred feet down in an elevator shaft
with a cord that snaps when you flick it. Yeah,
that wasn't your biggest that was your biggest problem with
this movie.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You no, that was a relatively minor problem, But it
was I don't know that one definitely.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Bugs me too, that's funny. Uh No. So as they
start going, they basically cut the power kind of freak
everyone out.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
While the fight night is going on, a whole bunch
of different things is happening. Saul is getting the briefcase
snuck in with his like family heirlooms or whatever. They
are like little gems and stuff like.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That, the contents of which is very important to me.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yes, yeah, is kind of hiding in like a lock
box kind of thing. So that's going to be brought
into the vault by some employees.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The Twins are doing some shenanigans pretending they forgot their
key cards.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And like the guys who play the Twins, like what
are their names, Casey Affleck and Scott Can those two
have so much chemistry in this, Like they pull off
that like brother bickering sort of thing. So well, it's
just beautiful hot. Well they just just roll into it
(18:43):
and just keep it going on. It's just so good.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, don Cheatle uses like emp things to like, you know,
distract everyone. Matt Damon is pretending to be from the
Gaming Commission to basically like get the dealer Frank thrown
out as a distraction because he's like been transferred and
he's actually arrested before, like all that jazz damn crack, yeah,
and all this stuff is kind of happening. But Danny
(19:09):
gets sort into a room because Terry gets someone to
beat him up basically because you know, he thinks something
fishy's going on, so he's just going to beat him
up and shake him up a little bit, trying to
get the truth out. But the guy's actually on Danny's payroll,
and so he doesn't actually his kids.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
How's the white as she's pregnant again? Just the way
I'm establishing that that back background relationship with like, we
don't need to spend any more time than that one
line on it, and you already know that prior prior, you.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Know, friendship, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And they do a good job of establishing relationships in here,
Like obviously it's very hard to fully flush out characters
in a two.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Hour movie when there's twelve of them.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
R Yeah, exactly, But.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
They do a good job kind of like entering in
that realm where we kind of feel like they're all
experts in the field and are connected to Danny.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
They are their unique personalities too. They've created twelve unique
personalities here, and they're all memorable. Like you know, well
we'll say eleven because the twins are basically the same.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
But yeah, exactly, they'll they're all unique or do something
in their own way, right. Saul is kind of like
checking out the bag, trying to see how it gets
down there, and then he has a heart attack basically,
and and the twins calm as paramedics and and take
him away.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Really awesome costume is the is the doctor? Yeah, somebody
call for a doctor.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, Brad Pick comes there as a little doctor, a
bunch of cool stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Doesn't sall play.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
A doctor in the second movie? Very research into something. Yeah,
And I was just thinking about this and and I'm
going to just bring it in here now.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
There is absurd fan fiction on this movie.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
There is.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I was going through letterbox reviews because as I got
one of my people saying and all of them were like,
all of them were like, oh wow, curse this movie
for making me like white guys so much, and like
random things like that, and like the way George Clooney
and Brad Pitt look at each other in the eyes.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Is so cute. All this oh right, all this thing.
So I started looking. I went on Google to you know,
had socks on. It was fine.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Anyways, I'm like looking at my computer and I closed
my door because I'm like, I cannot let my family
see this, right, Like, you know, but like there's a
luck there is like a whole community, like and people
still write fans fiction on Oceans eleven two day.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Dude, Like it's it's bad.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It was good.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, it's I'm on chapter four right now.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's very good, no, dude, But like, for some reason,
there is such a large community just dedicated to making
these absurd, wacky, crazy fan fictions of Matt Damon and
Brad Pitt and George Clooney doing crazy things.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah. Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Actually the number one Letterbucks comment is called the Ultimate
male fantasy movie.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, I know, I would not say that it is
the ultimate male fantasy. I mean, as much as it
might not be like you know, you know, you know,
pulling off crazy heist and stealing the guy's girl at
the same.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Time, you know that that has a little bit of
a yeah, a little bit of ye yeah, we'll be honest, which.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Is actually how I described taxes.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, well that was your tax season. Mine was a
little bit. Mine was about almost opposite of yours.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Actually, yeah, mister Owen money, who couldn't be me?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Uh no, no, no, I thought I was okay that we're
done with that.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
We don't need to talk about taxes. It's too sad
to said. So.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, George Coney kind of escapes the room because he's
not actually being like beat up, and he helps Repel
down the side of the vault and basically they break
in where Yen is and Yen's kind of opened the
door from the other side essentially, and then they.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Got it off the lazy they got to put the
bombs on either side of the door. Yeah, and then
I love this detail with the detonator. They click, you know,
it's like the moment three two one click, didn't put
the batteries and clicks click clicked, and it's like they're like,
what's going on? Was like, what about did you get
(23:27):
did you put did you bring batteries? He's like, god
damn it, and anyway, and it's just like it's like
that's so realistic that that I could just happen overlooked, right,
you know, overlooked little things. But then that also gives
Yen the time to get his hand on stocked because
they don't know and if they've blown it, then you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Right, Well here's the thing too, Like we talk about
this all the time, especially in the film industry.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Right where you plan, you plan.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I remember when we were in media school, we were
the first people to shoot and we'd shot a couple
of days early because we were so excited, ready to go.
We had a four camera ready, we storyboarded, everything was
at it. It was amazing day of where my house
we're shooting, and we forgot to bring the SD cards. Yep,
a fundamental part that you can't shoot without.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But just a tiny little thing that we overlooked.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Were still in the city. You remember when we were
shooting my final project, Oh yeah, and we drove about
a half hour out of the city do a paintball
range and we had this thing for two afternoons and
it was it was costing me, Like they gave me
a good deal, but it was still costing me because
I was a broke high school student and I forgot
the screw that holds the camera on the gimbal and
for those of you who don't know what a gimble is,
(24:33):
it's just like a stabilizer that makes your camera shots
all look nice and smooth.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And so we decided, well.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
We're here, We're not wasting another hour driving back and
forth to get a screw. So we tried to shoot
just hand held shots and as much static as we could.
And I think I used thirty seconds of footage from
that day.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, but we did have fun.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It was I'll give you I'll give you to that was.
It was a fun time on set. But little things
like that, you know, you don't you don't like see,
you don't think about it, but it can. It can
make or break a day. A little a screw, a
literal screw that big.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, you know. Yeah, it's a tough thing, right.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
And batteries. And then when they finally get into that
line there too. Again this is just the snappy writing.
There's a ninety five pound chin, ninety five pound Chinese
man on the other side of this door with one
hundred and sixty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know, it's yeah, you know, this is really good. No,
and it's just for me.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
It's one of those things, right, that's like the most
realistic detail, not the Chinese man part, but.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Like, yeah, the batteries. It's like, can you imagine if
that was that was what foiled their plan? And an
ocean swell was the same movie, but they remember the batteries.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Stare like it's the next day, Yeah, yeah, I know
it's it's it's funny because that's just super realistic works.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Sermay, it's it's hilarious. So basically, they blow up in
the vaults, they get all the money out, a.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Bunch of things happen, but things aren't really as they
seem right because as we're looking at the security footage
being terry like the casino winner, he's kind of realized
that like, oh hey, they're taking all this money out,
but they haven't taken all of it.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
They've only taken half.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
And basically he gets a call from Brad Pet's characters
saying like, hey, by the way, if you don't let
us take this all out, we're basically gonna blow it up.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
We're gonna take eighty and we're gonna leave the other
half like eighty million here booby trapped. And if you
so much as touch us or anything where we think
you're gonna we're gonna blow that, and so you can
either lose one hundred and sixty million publicly or eighty
million quietly.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, exactly what he says is very very fun, very
like kind of fun line that yeah, it's clever too,
you know life, you know. Yeah, And and basically the
terry agrees, but secretly calls the swat TEA swat team
comes and kind of like extracts the vaults that they
go in there and they find that like, oh, wait,
(26:56):
hold on a second, everything's kind of still in order
here until it explodes. A bunch of things happen, and
so the swat team extracts all the money so that
no one can take it back to the swat van.
But while this is happening, like there's a bunch of
other money from the supposedly was in the vault and
like the original eighty million dollars and it's going to
(27:17):
the airport, but it's old, rigged to blow and it's
not even money. It's actually flyers for strippers for strippers. Yeah,
and and uh oh, they kind of realized, wait, hold
on a second, this isn't the actual footage. So they
realized that the footage was hijacked essentially and recreated in
the vault and the SWAT.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Team because they had eleven little detail of they missed
the floor plate because it.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Was held on Tuesday, Yes, exactly, so very interesting thing to.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Have a floor plate forstall and sell it in the
casino is such a random thing.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
All The only person who sees that is like the
people the managers who go down and deposit the money,
which is funny. But anyways, we we do kind of
see like, oh, this ain't great, and the SWAT team
turns out to be out eleven teams. They head out
and and kind of run off with the money and
kind of end off with a fountain scene where everyone
(28:07):
kind of silhouetted. Super awesome shot at the fountains there.
I went to Vegas last summer. I loved that place,
and and it's kind of like, hey, hold on a second,
this is like the nicest, most sweet moment of the
whole film for me. And then they all leave quietly
and just kind of like part ways one last time
into Luzi cool, right, And you know that was actually
(28:29):
the very last thing they shot up the whole production,
And apparently it was really sad.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
For a lot of people, which obviously, when you do.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Film something for a couple of months, right, you kind
of get a little family going, right, you're living with them.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Like this one was a very close knit like they
wanted to be there.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
It was a fun time, lots of chemistry between the
actors who would hung out and talk.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's it's it's awesome to see kind of stuff like that, right,
you know. Carol Reiner is actually like my favorite character
in this film, like like Saul and a lot of them,
you know, would listen to stories because he's obviously the
oldest guy. Fortunately, Carl did pass away I think four
years ago, five years ago, something like that, unfortunately, but
he was he lived a long life, super old, and
he had some really great stories obviously, some great movies.
(29:11):
So it was it was really great to see him
like do a really great job in his film. It's
just such an awesome time, right, And.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's it's a nice ending to the movie. And and
and that then the very final scene there where Danny
Ocean finally gets out of prison again after parole obviously,
so he gets out of prison again and and Tess
is waiting for him with with Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, it's basically George Clooney exposes that, like, oh, he
would give up tests for eighty million dollars basically, even
though he is way more money than that, and it's
only like a little dent in his like overall funds.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yes, and and.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He would have insurance anyways, So that part doesn't make
super sense to me anyways, because a lot of these
guys would just have insurance for that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah. Well even even Tess even mentions it in Ope
and she's like, you know, these guys have insurance. They
get get it back, they get back what they lost.
But I didn't get back what I lost, you know,
I get back to five years that.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I lost or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Right, So I don't even know why he would be like, yeah,
did you give that eighty million dollars back?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I'll give up tests. It's like like, what, like, brother,
just file it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Actually, you know what insurance is really tough, So you
know what, I agree, you know, But no.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I mean it's a nice it's a nice ending in
the movie, and I no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, they drive off, but the bodyguards of Terry's are following.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Them, so bump bump bums.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
The opening of ocean swealth. Anyway, we'll get into those.
It's an overall, it's a nice ending. Well, before we
get into the kind of the analysis of the movie here,
let's let's stick a minute to hear about what's going
on at Ciga.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Let's do it eight.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
What are you doing this Saturday?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Well, Adam, I'm glad you asked. I'm actually gonna be
going to one of Ciga's seven casinos across the province
to enter reveal your award mystery prize draws.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Well, that sounds pretty sweet.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well, basically, there's a draw every Saturday, five of them actually,
from now until the end of May.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Okay, how do I get in on it?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Well, you gotta do is little rewards card Mine's green,
super shiny, pretty awesome, and swipe it out the kiosk.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, I don't have one of those though.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Okay, well, don't worry. It takes two minutes, plus it's
completely free.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh okay, Well, let's finish this up so I can
go get one and get some prizes.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Nineteen plus please play responsibly.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Another thing that's kind of interesting is Steven Soderberg wanted
this movie to be black and White.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
You know what, I'm interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
This leads into this movie is based in part on
a move from the sixties by the same name, and
it was Frank Sinatra playing Daniy Ocean in the rat Pack.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You know, that's the only character's name that's the same
by Yeah, And that's.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
The thing is, so I was like looking up because
I haven't seen that original one, and so I was
looking up the general plot of it, and it's it's
not really the same. So with the one from the sixties,
it's Frank Sinatra playing Dany Ocean and he gets eleven
years old war buddies together and they rob five Vegas
casinos on New Year's Eve one night. And I mean, like,
(32:03):
the really, the only elements that are saying is Danny
Ocean getting a crew of eleven people and robbing casinos
in Vegas. Be those are both the three elements that
are that are that are just based on the overall
plot that are that are continuous. And I don't like it,
you know. It's that's the thing that I have a
problem with, especially nowadays when they're doing remakes of everything.
(32:24):
It seems like all your new movies are just remakes
of older movies, and when they when they don't remake it,
which they almost ever do, it's just it's just marketing. Really,
it's just a marketing boost because you can't come up
with the story of your own that's good's and that
that's my problem with it, is like, you know, don't
call this Oceans eleven. Then you know, rename him from
(32:47):
Danny Ocean. You can still tell the same story, but
just don't don't name it Oceans eleven, because now people
are gonna go, oh, Ocean's eleven. In this case, probably
not because I don't think most people know the sixties
version of this movie. But it's just kind of the
haven't like yeah, right, Like it's not a huge draw,
but like in in in modern in modern days, I
(33:10):
think it happens.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
More, you know, yeah, no, And.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's very interesting to see how many renditions of this
movie they are, Like, actually, when you search up Oceans eleven,
the first thing that happens is when they did the
whole female one, and that's the first one that that
bombs up. And then Ocean's eleven, then Ocean's twelve, even
though he typed in Ocean's eleven, and then the original
which is super weird when you type it.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
In, which is like crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I don't know. I haven't seen the female one, so
I can't comment on that one.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Oh, Like yeah, it's just interesting to see all the renditions, right, yeah,
I'm trying to see here, h we're talking about being
black and white, right, yeah, But I.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Mean I can see why if he's trying to keep
some of the elements from the first one, that's why
he'd want it black and white, like bringing that back.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Sure, and does that help produce costs? And I how
produce costs there?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I mean, are you actually gonna shoot it in black
and white? Are you just gonna put it a black film? Right?
He actually wanted to put it on film?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Well, I think it was film, wasn't it. I don't know.
That's why I thought it was that.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
That one you're kind of in that transition ere there.
It could have been digital, it could have been filmed.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, I want to say it was film. I say
film because they do that really choppy slow mo stuff
with you screams film. Yeah, in my opinion, that just
seems like it.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Looks pretty good for film. Actually, Like you know, you
could you could fool me.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, but I mean we're probably also watching I guess
like a h D version like gotta like maybe redid
a little bit for uh yeah, but you.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Still you still you can't.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's like you know, when you you know, you can
make a video from the nineteen fifties four K, but
it's still doesn't look Yeah, yeah, I got what I mean.
It's yeah, yeah, that's fair. You're not adding any more information.
You're just instead of one pixel, it's the same pixel
becomes four pixels of the same color.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, yeah, I guess that is that is fair. Yeah,
technically you're kind of getting washed out a little bit
on some of the details.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
For me, you're a larger rainey, right, you know, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Uh. An interesting fact too, Blaggio, like the Bgio let
the actual crew use not like real security footage, but
like tap into their security like cameras and stuff to
get footage there, like.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Which I think is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
It's clever.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I think that's like a nice little way of like
making it a kind of realistical, like you put your
extras in somewhere and Duke and of that stuff kind
of has a real vibe and I think, yeah, that's
that's a really awesome thing.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Do you have any other things?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
A couple of things continuity errors. There's one in particular,
and I've noticed this the last two times i've watched
this movie, because I've watched this movie a lot. The
scene where Saul is getting his briefcase put in the
vault and they're watching on the cameras. The security guy
or the head of the security casino manager, mister Walsh,
(35:49):
is there with Saul. You know, okay, your brief face
is being putting it put in, And at the same time,
Brad or Matt Damon is running his n GC scam
on on Benedict with Frank throwing Frank out of the casino.
And the guy throwing Frank out of the casino is
mister Walsh, the casino manager. So he's in two places
(36:10):
the same time. So that's one one thing that it's like,
it's kind of obvious, you know, And I didn't notice
it the first couple of times I watched it. But
once you've watched the two or three times, you've noticed
start to notice a little things like that that's just like, oh,
it just you know, it's so good. And then you
used to notice something like that, and there's other little
things like that. There's that one, and then the other
one that I noticed was, you know when they pulled
(36:34):
the switch in the vault where they have the normal
bags of money and then they have the black bags
with the X on them that are filled with the
more stripper flyers that they leave in the vault to
be blown up. Yeah, how did they get those in there?
I'm not sure they didn't. They never showed because when
(36:54):
Swat came in, they weren't carrying them and they never
took them in when they were dropping on the elevator shaft,
So how did and it didn't go in with yen,
So how did they get those in there?
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Well, wouldn't it just didn't they just do that in
the recreation then?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
No, because remember they they that was what they actually
left in the vault because they took the full hundred
and sixty million out as SWAT guys and they left
that in the vault to.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Blow Yeah, but that was the recorded one. No, it wasn't.
Oh I thought it was the recorded No.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Remember, at the very end he walks in to the
vault and because at the same time that they hijack
the van or the band blows up and he's.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Like, oh, oh Arry realizes that the money and then.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
He goes into the into the into the the casino's like, yeah,
there's there's no money here either. It's just flyers for strippers.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I don't know, it's it's just little things like that,
like oh.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You know, there's there's more little ones though, like when
you think about it, because like the fountain scene, there's
like weird editing there. Sometimes there a character turns around
and then cuts back to a different angle and then
they actually turn around there.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean, even with Bradfanoye, who's always eating in this movie.
That's the other thing is there's times where like his
food placement or his stuff isn't the same every time.
You know, like in one angle he's got you know,
he's just taking a bite. At the next angle he's not,
or something like that. You know, Like there's just little
little things and is it a big deal? Not really,
(38:21):
but like carrying attention to detail, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, yeah, And I think there is a lot of
carry in this movie, but there is unfortunately that little
things like that slip the cracks.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
But I mean you kind of have to really look
for them.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
That's not a first or even a second watch thing.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
That's like, you know, yeah, fourth, fifth watch. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
No, this movie for me is very well done. The
snappy dialogue is a is a big.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Thing for me.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Chemistry with the actors, chemistry feels good. Oh, It's just
the only thing I don't really love is don Chield's accent.
I wasn't like a huge, a huge fan of I know.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
A lot of people don't like it, but personally I
find it entertained. It's funny, it's funny, but I can
see why people don't.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
It just feels oddly comedic for what the actual rule is.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I mean, it's just sort of you know, cockney, but
it needs to some funny moments when he's like, you know, sure, no,
you know, unless you know, you gotta whatever wearing Bonnie
or whatever brother.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Got the big Bonnie.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
You're gonna Bonnie Bonnie.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Trouble, Yeah, trouble, whatever, trouble. You know.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
It's like he wanted to change his accent for the sequels,
but his managers wouldn't let him.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Apparently he does it pretty well. I don't I don't
think it's like terrible.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I just know I'm not a huge I'm not a
huge fan of it, and like I liked on Cheetle,
I'm like, hey, come on, man, like you don't no voice.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Is like actually like pretty great, So what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Like to me, that's like like I don't know, Morgan
Freeman just coming on and all all of a sudden's
starting to do an Irish impression like you're Morgan Freeman,
just like just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
This movie is clean, it's clever, it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
It's just it gives me goosebumps sometimes, like when I
think of the dialogue and stuff like that, and how
snappy it is and how active the world feels almost
like every scene there's movement, things are happening, and I
don't know, I like it. I like how it feels
like we kind of talked about how in Black Bag
there's a lot of that handoff aspects, and I feel
like this is like Steven Soderberg's style, where like a
(40:18):
lot of it is always going right, We're flowing and
stuff like that, and there's no like there's no time
for necessarily like being static. Yeah right, And so a
lot of times you look at that and you're like, Okay,
maybe the steaks are a little low, right because he
doesn't want any of the characters get to hurt. But
they do in decent job, like establishing stakes when they
show how many times casinos have failed to been robbed
(40:40):
in the past, right, right.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
So it's like the close to miscat last, gay I
tasted fresh oxygen and then take my breath.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Uh, yes, exactly, you know what, Like for me, that's
pretty much all I have right now.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I've got a few more things like the the just
a couple of things of music in this. Again, it
feels very similar to the TV show I like Leverage,
which came after this. So it's you know, but still
it's just it's so like kind of sly and like,
you know, like it really helps sell the plotting and
the scheming. You know, it's not like grand and cinematic.
(41:15):
It's just kind of you know, I don't even how
to describe it. It just it just really helps sell the
sell the movie overhaul. You know, y pacing is really good.
You know, it's a two hour movie and it at
no point to you're like, oh my god, this is
a long movie. You know, it's just it flows and
it this is him writing, and writing really helps out.
The acting is good.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I had to complain, Okay, I'm not a fan of
the old time he's choppy slow motion. That's very happy
that after after like I said this yesterday, after Sam
raiming a second Spider Man movie, we.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Stopped doing that.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
This emotion's fine, but like the really choppy slow emotion
where the film is faded like.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
That and weird and it's just awkward to me.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Just I've never I've never liked the way that's looks,
no matter how silistic you try to make it in
any movie. I've just never been a fan of that.
You're gonna do some motions like just yeah, get the
frame right up, do something, but like I know, it's
hard to do that stuff with film and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
And it's very stylistick and pool. But I've just I
don't know, I've never been a personal fan of.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
That stuff, and it's just been it's just been one
of those things where even when I saw it last
night and then when the train station when like they're there, I'm.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Like, like, guys, this is not this is not the
way you know what.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I mean, like one of the things the other things
I was going to bring up is delighting, Like it's
the hotel always has kind of sort of a yellow
tinge to it, and it just kind of almost gives
us some more of an old timing vibe, which again
I can see why if he couldn't go black and white,
or they wouldn't let him go black and white, he
would try and still go for that. And it does
(42:48):
feel like a bit of a throwback almost, like just
certain some of the way that they they act and
talk and and just kind of everything just feels like
a little bit of a throwback.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's true to the.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Source, right, Like I said, I walked through so many
of those casinos in vegue As when I was there,
and went to the bolage Gio and like the Rolex
stores and stuff, the things I couldn't afford or even
think about going into. Right, do all those things seeing
the fountain shows they're all very yellow and like the
one hotel, right, they have all those yellow light bulbs at.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
The top, right, probably from all the smoking, if we're
being honest, right, like everything just not stayed yellow right
when they built it was probably white.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
It used to be blue, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's
funny man. Okay, well, I mean that's all I have.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, one more thing that I had see. I took notes,
and now I have a lot to talk about.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
This is most impressive.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I kind of feel bad for Benedict in a way, okay, slightly,
and the the movie tries its best to make you
not feel bad for him, you know, but at the
same time, you mean Terry, Yeah, Terry Benedict.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yes, sir, I've been calling him Terry, so just like
the owner of the casino.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, as much as he is the bad guy in
the movie, he hasn't done anything wrong. He owns three
legitimate casinos. He's made his fortune legitimately more mostly legitimately.
I mean, you know, the cliches of a business. But
we have no evidence that he's done anything illegal. Sure,
(44:19):
and this dude comes along and takes his girlfriend away
and steals one hundred and sixty million dollars from him. Yep,
and all you do was trying to stop him. I mean,
can you really blame the guy for being mad? No?
Speaker 3 (44:34):
I agree, I like you know and.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Like and they having like tests be part of the
story makes really helps the audience feel more on of
Danny's side, Danny Ocean's side. But like, when you really
stop and think about it, who's the bad guy in
this story?
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah? No, no, for sure, I think they also try
to do it.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
They try and make it that thing where we're like, okay,
well he would give up tests for money, so that makes.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
You he did do little things like that or like
you know, like run and.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Hide, loserbody hide or whatever.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
You know. Like, so there's there's certain things, That's what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
They try.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
And his philosophy though it does say it like he
only steals some people who deserve it.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
So maybe that's where the the water is cloudy. Yeah,
the Robin Hoodie intelligencause.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Maybe he's like, oh hey, like maybe he thinks this
guy deserves it but for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah, you know what I mean. That's still some of
the more contention comes with brad Bitt.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
But yeah, two more favorite moments done Cheetle in the
hotel watching the desert in fall on on TV.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Well, he's a real thing, but you can see him
behind it.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
He's like, and then you can see the hotel falling
in the.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Back of that. That's so good.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
And then also the the one line with Rubin when
they have that first meeting at his house, and then
Matt David's character is just kind of sitting off to
the side and he's like, Hey, you're Bobby Godwill's kid. Yeah,
and how's you know, there's a little bit of small talk.
He's like, that's nice getting the goddamn house.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
You know. Yeah, it's just like yeah, like that. Yeah,
that was brack this up a bit. Yeah, that's kind
of all I have. Man, I'm at a notes now. Again.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
We just wanted to say a huge, massive thank you
to the Dakota Dunes Casino and Resort for having us
here filming.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
It's been an incredible episode, and.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Thank you so much to Seegu for letting us come
here and make a ruckus and and just have a
good time.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
It means a lot that we were able to do
this on location, and hopefully we can make this a
bit of a tradition.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Right So yeah, I know for sure, and we're gonna
we'll come back for Oceans twelve and.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Thirteen, yes exactly. Now, before we go play some slots,
let's give it our final rating.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yes, eight point eight.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Eight point eight, Well, pardon we wanted to give it eleven.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Jenny, that's clever, that's clever.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
It's an eight for me. I think it's a really
solid movie that flows super well. Maybe an eight and
a half even, but I don't know after this side
in the car on the way back, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Man, let's go play some you just watched the viewing room.
You guys have a fantastic day. We do have an
Instagram at the viewing room monitors score. Thank you again,
Casiga and to go to Dunes Casino and Resort for
having us out here.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
All right, let's go
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