April 22, 2025 • 51 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
And now time for the viewing Room with Adam and Eton.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to the Viewing Room, where we talk about films
new and all to local and global. Today we're talking
about Black Bag, which released March fourteenth, twenty twenty five,
with a budget of sixty million US dollars. Ooh, I mean, oh,
that seems like a lot, doesn't it. I think probably
Kate Lanchett and Michael Fasbitter probably, Yeah, to come a
(00:44):
substantial paycheck. Right now, though still early, we've only growed
thirty million dollars as of two days ago.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I think they put they should have put more of
that money into the marketing.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes, I never went to this movie scene in a
single trailer or an ad on Instagram or or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The only reason I was aware of it is because
I was going to a movie with my other friends
and I looked up what was playing at the cineplex
and I'm like, Nope, don't want to see that. Nope,
that looks like shit, Nope, don't want to see that. Nope, Nope, nope,
Oh what's that? Never even heard of it before? Like
the same as you never heard of it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I've only seen I only saw the poster like.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Leading into it. Yeah, yeah, and so I looked up
the trailer read the descriptions of like how that looks interesting?
So yeah, you know, it was like like completely undermarketed
like like, and I think if it had been marketed better,
it would have done well.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I only heard things about it because I had a
friend who I went and saw with who was interested
in seeing it and known things about it. But but yeah,
like I wasn't really or mean, like I wasn't privy
to a lot of that information, right, And I'm just
looking up here the synopsis.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
By Tusk Tusk Tusk. Basically the way I described it
to people was Mister and Missus Smith, which we have reviewed.
I think it was episode like two or three. Go
check that out. Mister and Missus Smith. But instead of
solving problems with bullets, they solve them with words. Yes,
until the very end.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, if you're interested in spy movies and and like
kind of like maybe some of that verbal jousts and
stuff that we talk about, this is a movie for you.
But if you're into spy movies like James Bond with
fancy gadgets and car chases, yeah, you're not getting that.
You're getting fourteen page dinner scenes with verbal exposition and
(02:43):
little bits of foreshadowing. You know, I think this movie
could have used more foreshadowing actually in a way, because
I think it could have been a little bit more creative.
And I'll talk about that that later, because there's some
things that are just like a little bit missing. I
really like this.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Movie, but there's somethings I thoroughly enjoyed it a special
compared to some of the other things that have been
coming out, Like I didn't feel like I wasted my
money when I went to this right. No, it was
really quick too. But that's the other thing is that
it was done. I was like, I wonder how long
this movie was, Like I completely offt track of time, Like, yo,
it would have been about two hours. No, it was
an hour and a half. Not even Yeah, when you
(03:17):
factor in the fact like the credits and everything, it
wasn't even an hour and a half. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I don't like go on my phone in the movies.
That's so dumb.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But sometimes you take a quick peek at the time
or something.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well I do that with my watch, like like I
always say to me, like a measure of how like
into a movie I am or how well a movie
can hold me is how many times do I look
at my watch during the movie, Right, Yeah, If I
don't look at my watch at all, then like it's
held me. But like if I'm like every ten minutes
I'm looking at my watch, then yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I feel like I've been to a few movies
this year where I may have like definitely done a
quick peek at the old phone just to see what
time it was, like, just because like, like, man, this
is good.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
This is kind of long, but.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
But no, like this one went by really fast. Dare
I say maybe could have been longer? As someone who
likes short movies, there's I'll talk about this. There's a
little bit more, but I maybe would have liked to
see that. I think could have been a two hour movie,
but like, holy crap, this is a good two hour.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I'm curious what they what they would have cut, like
what the original like the director's cow would have been.
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't have any information on that.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I don't I don't either. I'm just I'd be curious
to see that. You know the other thing I.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Was gonna say, oh, maybe I'll wait for that, but
but Okay, No, you know what, I don't think this film,
like will deserve deserves a sequel, just so you now.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I mean, I don't think it will get a sequel,
and I don't think a sequel do it justice.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I don't think it will, and I don't want to.
I liked I liked the characters a lot, and technically
would have wanted to see more from them, but I wouldn't.
I wouldn't take that in the form.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Of a sequel. No. The only reason it would get a
sequel is if this made a shit ton of money
and they want to do it again. No, and I
don't think a sequel would naturally flow like it didn't
set it up for a sequel. I think it's just
a good standalone movie. You know, right.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Cast Kate Planchett, Fasbender. Yeah, that thirty one million dollar
gross is Oh well?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Who was the other two? Big name.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
James Bigger named Arthur Zoe.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't remember which character Reddy. Let me looking up.
You read the synopsis while I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
This, Okay, Okay, okay, I'll read the synopsis.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
When his beloved wife Catherine is suspected of betraying the
nation intelligence agent George Woodhouse. George Woodhouse faces the ultimate
test loyalty to his marriage or his I'm true.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Scars. It was a small just that small role. And
then also Pierce Brosnan small role.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Directed by Stevens Soderbergh. Why did I say that so weird?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I'm just really good at that. This is based in UK,
obviously at the n c s C, which is the
National Cyber Security Center, which is a real thing, and
the governments of UK it's like their main intelligence agency
beside six. I thought that that would have been like
the version of the CIA, but no, it's not. It's
(06:09):
like the National Security whatever for the States instead, that's
like the what would the reference be.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
The States has a lot more organizations than most countries.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get into fact. I don't
have many facts withists. I just want to say something
that's cool is most intelligence agencies in the world higher therapists, Oh,
which is pretty cool. Like lit look facts like in
this movie they have doctor Zoe, who's like the therapists
that all the characters.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Like confide in and do counseling and stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Still as fucked up as the rest of them, right,
But yeah, that's like a real thing that because they
don't want their agents talking to therapists outside. Yeah you
know what I mean, they hire and employee therapists like
it's worn to secrecy inside the the facilities, which is cool,
very interesting. Maybe it's even dangerous because I feel like
(07:01):
that's like the perfect way to get very valuable information
that otherwise it wouldn't be stated.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, but there if you're getting hired by a government
agency of any kind, no less an intelligence agency, the
amount of checking and backgrounds and everything are astronomical. Yes, yes,
I would assume.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, this is very interesting because.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It's just so unique. I think if you like, it's
just it's just different, right, like just just different from
normal more normal spy action mainstream movies.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
If you if you like car chases and gunfights, you're
not going to get any of that. It's just dialogue.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I really like the the the it's like an it's
like a instead of a battle of ron's a battle
of brains, you know, Like it's it's there's there's certain
level of like like an intellect in the in the characters,
and it's just verbal jousting, like you said, it's it's
I don't know. I like it good. I'll take a
good action sequence any day, right, good car chases, lots
(08:03):
of explosions. But there's something about it where it's just
like scratches that it, you.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Know, right, part of it makes it harder to justify
an inflated budget like sixty million dollars because you're like, okay,
hold on a second here, right, like if the James
Bond movies are a hundred million dollars, Like, okay, I
get it's a ton more money. But this film's a
pretty short film too, like an hour and a half.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I feel like though, that they probably had a lot
of takes. I just have this feeling like there was
a lot of takes in this movie, Okay, I I
And I don't even know why. I wonder if maybe
part of it, like I don't know, it just it
just seemed to me like there was there was there
was a lot of the vibe of the movie was
(08:47):
they did it until they got it right, you know, like,
oh that was good, Like no, that was exactly what
I wanted. It just feels like it has that kind
of precision. But then again, like there's only like what
three locations. Really, You've got the office, like general locations.
You've got the office, got the lake with the fishing boat,
and you got their home.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, but you also have like ZERI and car. Yeah,
there's a few there a car.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
There is a car explosion.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But another interesting thing and I lost it actually never mind.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Very interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, that was that I was I was so prepared
and that that that earth completely left my brain because
you made a.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Good that it was the earth shattering caboo. Is this
supposed to be an eth shattering caboo?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No, there is like some cool satellite stuff like that. Yeah,
but yeah, like I guess, Yeah, there isn't like a
ton of locations, is there not?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Really? I mean, like compared to a James Bond movie,
there isn't really that many locations. Yeah. Interesting. Okay, let's
go through a plot.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, okay, so I'm gonna list of some characters make
this a little bit more so. Okay, we have Catherine
and George. They're a married couple. Okay, they both work
at NCSC. We have doctor Zoe, who's like the NCSC therapist.
We have Freddie, who is you know, he works at NCSC. Yes,
(10:19):
n CSC is he's kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
A little hot headed, but.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know, younger, he's intelligent, you know whatever. Still we
have James. James is another guy who is dating Zoe,
the therapist works at NCSC.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But he's also married or no, No, they're right, that's right,
they're just no, she's not dating Zoe. He's dating the
satellite operator what's her name? Oh? Oh, I forget that right,
But it turns out he's actually sleeping with the No,
the therapist.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
He's streeping with her, sleeping with Freddy is the one cheating. Yeah,
not not not.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
No, they're both are remember not James, Yeah what they
both are?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
What?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, Freddy and James are both sleeping with a therapist.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Right, but but James is is dating James and the
therapist are actually dating. Freddy is the one cheating by
going to the hotel room, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yes, right, that's right? Yes, yeah? And the is it Marissa?
I think is the lady? Right? I think it's Marissa, Yeah,
something like that. I don't remember their names.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I know it's there's big ensemble, right, And when you
watch a movie a few days before you record the episode,
you're like, whoa, Yeah, I do think i'd see this again. Like,
I definitely watched this again.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I feel like I wouldn't go to the theater again
for it, but yeah, I would watch it again for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I'd watched it on like the cineplex store for
six bucks.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah. Yeah, it's not Deadpool and Wolverine level of go
watch it again. Yeah, yeah, because you and I both
went back and saw that multiple times in the theater.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I saw the movie three times in the theater.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I saw it twice in the theater, and I have
zero regrets.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, honestly, like I just had I had a good time.
It's nice going to a movie where, you know what
I mean, you just have a farm, you just have
a fun time watching.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, it's a social movie and as long as you
go with people, you have fun.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, it's not like I was going to
study an analyze that. I was literally just going to
hear Dick jokes. Yeah, exactly, exactly what I paid for. Okay,
as we break down Black Back, Okay, I've listed off
some of those characters, some of the relationships. Marissa is
dating ready, ready, it's cheating on Marissa with the therapist Zoe.
(12:47):
Zoey's in a relationship with James thing back a boom.
They all work at the Security Agency, and they're all
intelligent people with some flaws. Okay, we basically find out.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Some flaws is a light way of putting it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We we find out this thing called Severus has been
leaked on a little USB. Basically, what Severus can do
is like a little bug that like gets into nuclear
reactors and can kind of cause them to like implode
or melt melt down, basically causing I.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Actually watch a really cool documentary on nuclear reactors and
what happens when they melt down. Very interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Anyway, I feel like that was a threat, like you
just got put on the lists summer.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, no, no, it's I know. It's just the signs
behind how they melt down, not like here's go how
to go melt down? Where's our nuclear plant? Do we
have a nuclear plant in Saskatchewan? We don't. They want
to put the small module the reactors, the SMRs. I
don't know if we have any in Canada right now.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I would be really interested in going to see like
something like that too.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That'd be awesome, go to see where Homer Simpson works
that would be funny, not specifically the one where Homer
Simpson were scause I don't trust to anybody involved with
that nuclear plant.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So we find out Severus has been leaked and some
bad guys are going to use it. They created Severus
as like a way to like mess with other countries,
like if we melt down their reactors, it'll cause our
political thing to be like really scary and it might
help shift the turn of war or something like against.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
What Also, wasn't it just like as an experiment, like
like because I think because how does he say? He's
like if they can if we can do it to them,
then they can do it to us. And so we
created it as an as an experiment. It was never
supposed to leave the building or something. That's correct.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But anyways, someone from the NCSC leaks it and tries
to like sell it basically and rations and and yeah,
like it would cause a lot of deaths. Yeah, and
they say thousands.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Now maybe that's true, but I just feel like I feel.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Like it would be more than that.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It really depends on how well the mouth done is contained.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
How many people like died at you noble.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Well, But see, it's hard to tell because in the
immediate explosion, I don't think there was very many. But
it's all the follow right, Yeah, it's the waste that
gets settled over a huge area and then the cleanup
cruise and everything, and then it's also right, yeah, and
it's like, Okay, so maybe you got exposed, but you
don't die or have any symptoms, but maybe you died
(15:41):
twenty years earlier from cancer than you might have otherwise, right,
And so it's so hard to quantify, right, it's so
hard to quantify why, like how many people actually died.
But I mean, like an actual meltdown itself, if contained properly,
wouldn't really have that much of an effect. I think
(16:02):
I could be wrong, but that yeah, Like.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
For me, I don't really know much about that. I mean, again,
you probably know more than I do. But I'm just
someone who's scared of that stuff because.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I mean you've got like you've got like places like
three Mile Island and stuff like famous ones where like.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Is that off really like put the nukes on the water, like.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
No, no, No, Three Mile Island was a nuclear reactor in Pennsylvania.
I think it was somewhere in the States.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
The famous islands of.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I don't remember anyway it was. It was if they're
one of the reactors had an issue or something, and
it was the big The big controversy around that one
was the government kind of not exactly covering it up
but not telling people how serious it actually was. And
(16:56):
they ended up venting a bunch of nuclear steam into
the area and so that was like the big thing.
But if they hadn't vented all that steam, then it
would have been contained. So I don't know, it's yeah,
I don't nothing. I don't remember exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Again, I Pennsylvania have islands.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It probably wasn't Pennsylvania. I don't remember where.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Now, Yeah, I like again, not the best geography either.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Going to do.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I'm gonna just yeah, yeah, this is right. This is
just misinformation city then.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania at least radioactive gases and radioactive
eye dining into the environment. So the accident began with
failures in the non nuclear secondary system, followed by a
stuck open, pilot operated relief valve, which allowed large amounts
of water to escape from the pressurized isolated coolant loop.
Because basically, a meltdown is when the the so like
(17:59):
you know, you've all your cores, your nuclear reactor cores,
and they're hot creating steam which power turns a turbine,
which was what creates the actual power. And so if
they lose their water cooled and if they lose cooling,
then they overheat and melt like the actual Yeah, it
(18:22):
becomes unstable and it actually it melts. That's why it's
called a meltdown. So when the pilot operated relief valve
large large amounts of water to escape from the pressurized
isolated coolant loop. The mechanical failures were compounded by the
initial failure of a plant operators to recognize the situation
as a loss of coolant. TMI training and operating procedures
(18:43):
left tm I was the was the company, it was
like Thomas something whatever it was. Training and operating procedures
left operators in management ill prepared for the deteriorating situation
caused by the loss of coolant accident UH During the accident,
these inadequate sees were compounded by design flaws such as
(19:04):
poor control design, the use of multiple similar alarms, and
a failure of the equipment to indicate either the coolant
inventory level or the position of the stuck open pilot
operated relief valve. So anyway, that's the basic thing. Yeah, anyway,
it's gonna be going back online in twenty twenty eight
(19:25):
with the ideal of with Microsoft as part of their
data center cooling. Uh so that's just a lot of
people open house.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But yeah, makes you wonder why, like how they could
make something like that loose power, Like can they find
a way to have backup power ran by like little
hamsters and wheels like that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, it wasn't the power loss, it was the actual
the ve. So there was too much pressure in the
coolant loop, so the pilot operated relief valve, so like
the operator opened the relief valve to let water out
of the loop to lower the pressure, and then that
valve got stuck open and we're let too much water out.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Which yeah interesting, yeah interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, Then there was yeah, and then there's like but
it wasn't just human air, but it was. It was
human error compounded by mechanical failure because they tried to
close it but they didn't. It didn't indicate that it
wasn't closed, that they kept losing pressure if I remember correctly,
or there was an indicator something I don't remember all
the details now, but that's the basic idea is that
(20:29):
it wasn't like there was a huge explosion. It was
that they released radioactive gas like steam.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, that's like when I when I barbecue dogs and
then I realized half an hour after I finished eating
that the gases, so I run outside in the backyard.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that kind of that kind of
reminds me of that.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I would not be good at a nuclear energy plant.
You can't even walk around without bumping into a camera.
And a terrible idea for me.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh, I wasn't supposed to lean on that, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I would be the sole cause, not even.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Intentionally, Yeah no, not intentionally, I would be.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
A national threat, just out of stupidity. I genuinely don't think, like, yeah, anyway,
that's that's through my island, and that that would be
what I assume would happen.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I could be wrong. I'm not an expert. Is anyone
we likes?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yea, there are experts in the world's Yeah, yes, I
just said. That's a cope with the fact that I'll
never be smart enough to understanding your technologies. Okay, so
service has been leaked. George is basically tasked with finding
a leak. No, as I say that initial plot hole,
(21:57):
why did they make George in charge of finding Why
would they do that? Why would the directors put him
on charge of the leak when the director spoil alert
is in on it. It would make the most physical sense
to put James Spoiler, who's also in on it, in
charge of finding the leak.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
True, but we don't know what We don't really know
what his position is. Maybe his that's not something that
would be under his kind of scope of his position, right, Like,
we don't really know what he.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I mean, director, the manager, like the director, you just
be like, like Arthur, you just be like, I'm signing
this to James.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, but if James's job is you know, a policy writer,
not saying that's what it was, but I'm saying, then
having him assigned to find a leak would be really fishy, right.
That's my point is that, like.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, but my job is to edit shorts, and if
Gary told me to watch Maggie's behind, I'd probably just
do it.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Anyways, you know, that's a terrible example, and I don't know.
I was just saying things I can tell.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, anyways, leaked, That's just something I was thinking of. Obviously,
we know George is the best at what he does.
Not to mess with George, which multiple times characters say,
don't mess with George because he's so great, and then
everyone in this movie decides to mess with George. Yeah,
very interesting. Everyone everyone knows not to mess with George,
but then continues to do so for an hour and
(23:18):
a half, which is kind of funny. Basically, George is
trying to find this leak. We have a nice little
dinner scene. We're kind of like meeting some of our characters.
We have a nice little dinner you know.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
That's one thing that I really like about this is
that the characters have prior relations like prior relationships with
each other. Yeah, and so when we're dropped into that
dinner scene, it's like we're dropped into, you know, a
family gathering of someone that you just met, like you
know what I mean, Like yeah, And it feels more realistic.
(23:50):
It doesn't feel like they're trying to explain a bunch
of backstory and stuff and it just feels like you're
just a fly on the wall, right. Feels like coworkers too, Yeah,
just feels like you're just you're in the scene and
but you're not. Like it's not like a it feels
like it's not a story. And I know that sounds
like a weird thing to say, but like it just
feels like, like I said, you're just a fly on
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the wall, and like.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I don't know, it just has a more realistic feel
and a little more like intense kind of speaking of
flying on the wall, they do these shots, oh yes, and.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I wasn't a huge fan of them. I appreciate when
you try to do something like a little quirky and
cool and different. There's two things that I don't really
like about this scene. Otherwise I think it's great. They
do these weird above angle shots from either side of
the table, and they have like four weird angles that
they keep cutting to, and in one of them it's
everyone on one side, the other one it's everyone on
the other side, and then in another one it's like
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half of someone and two people, and then they do
that again from the other side. I don't know, I
wasn't like a huge fan of I get it using
that as an establishing shot, like to set the scene,
but like for some reason, I just.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Well, but you know, I think part of that also
plays into the overall shooting of this, like that the
whole opening is shot in wide angles and everything might
say I also should add the wonner one at the beginning, very.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Very simple, basic wonner.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
But it works. Yeah, I liked it. I thought it
was it was good and it's a solid opening. But yeah,
like all the shots in this movie, as in general,
start wide, and by the end of the movie you're
getting tighter. Yeah, like, look at the difference in the
shots between the first dinner scene and the second dinner scene,
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and and like the first ones are a lot wider
than the second ones.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I think the changes to match more of the dialogue. Yeah,
it's like trying, We're trying to figure it out, so
it's like quick, quick, now. There's some foreshadowing in the scene.
I feel like a lot of the a lot of
the reveals at the end for who did what just
feels like a character saying, hey, I did this, instead
of like you know what, we actually see little hint
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of that. Yeah, like like obviously showing someone putting the
movie ticket in the waistba basket, isn't isn't like like necessary,
but like, yeah, it would have been better if they
made it more to fine, like oh, James is stepping
away to use the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
You know you know what I mean, like just something
a little more defined, because a lot of it just
kind of feels like, yeah, I did this and did
this and did this, and we find out with like
some some foreshadowing that like we know because everyone's been
given like a little truth serum, and so we find
out that Freddy's cheating, right, and it's just like one
of those things where it's like instead of like maybe
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doing a shot where we can kind of like see
like doctor Zoe like choking on her wine a little bit, like,
you know, as a little reveal it instead like George
is like, yeah, and you guys were cheating together, and
then we show that as like a cutaway thing instead
of like finding out a bit more naturally. You feel
like I feel like a lot of the reveals are
just reveals because it's cool to have reveals.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, when it like and.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
They're they're good, it's interesting, But I feel like it
does it feels like when you watch this movie again,
you're not really watching it for a lot of foreshadowing
value because I just feel like I just feel like
a lot of the foreshadowing wasn't as like there wasn't
as much as there could have been.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, but again, short movie too, right, so when it's
not very long, maybe they have to cut some of
that stuff out. Anyways, we find out, like I said,
Freddie's cheating, everyone's kind of doing stuff with their lives whatever.
George finds a movie ticket in the waste basket of
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his bathroom, and now he's kind of been led to
believe that, uh oh, his wife Catherine is probably sneaking
around and doing some spishy stuff. So he starts doing
some espionage on her. He uh kind of like figures
out she's gonna be leaving the country on Wednesday. They
go and see this movie together on Tuesday, so he
can kind of see if she's seen this movie before.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
He's testing to see if she's actually seen that movie,
if it was planted.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, and so he's kind of determined that, oh, maybe
she hasn't seen this movie and this wasn't her ticket, right,
And I.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Thought that was actually really clever, like as a as
a as an a tactic.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, and then he basically goes to snoop on our
computer and and find out that she's been lying to
him and she's not like leaving the country to go
to wherever she said, she's actually going to Zurich. And
and oh she said she was.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Going to Zurich. She just couldn't tell him why.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
No, I think it was somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I'm pretty sure right, she's no, she just said yeah, yeah,
I don't remember. I'm pretty sure she was going. He
does find out that she's going to Zurich in his
inner counter.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, and so he kind of like, help, it's Marissa,
I believe. He goes to her and basically, like the
satellites have dead zones where like when one operator takes over,
there's a couple of minutes where the satellite goes offline.
So he kind of hacks into it at that point
kind of thing with with the help of Marissa, and
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basically finds out that she's I guess is it she's
buying or she's selling?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
She is.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
She so so he thinks she's selling severus.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Right, because there's then there's is this scene with is
the scene with James after that or before on the
fishing boat when like after he goes fishing. Yeah, and
he comes back and James is like, well, I thought
we should keep this off the books, but we detected
this this old identity. I think washing the border is
that after.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I think it's I want to say it's after because
I think he also mentions that the satellite picked something up, right,
I think I think.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Something like that. So so basically.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
It looks like that Catherine is trying to sell severus
for a bunch of money to the Russian general. Uh
oh spaghetti, Oh not good? Yeah right, and so oh no,
George is like, oh, my wife is part of this,
this is interesting whatever. So he goes fishing, I guess,
to clear his head think of some stuff. James meets
(30:19):
up with him, basically tells him that his wife is
in on it and it's pretty much pretty obvious, just
to let him know, and that seven million dollars. Yeah.
And the other thing is the kind of director at
the satellite station kind of saw that the satellite was
hacked because of a visual glitch, so they kind of
know something was up, and now the director knows about it.
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So the director kind of like pulls every into the meeting.
He's like, hey, I know someone's been snooping on the
satellite and stuff like that, and one of someone in
this room is kind of like a leak. Very interesting
that he's like he knows someone in the room is
a leak, which he one hundred percent does know who
the leak is because he's one of them.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
There's two of him. Yeah, but from his perspective, he's
trying to he's gonna try and pin it on someone else, right, So.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Well, him and James were in cahoots Arthur and James
wa hoots. Anyways, we find out from George. He goes
fishing with James and he's he's trying to figure out like, hmm,
maybe maybe James is in on this has like some
something to do with it. He brings a gun, he's ready,
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he might put him in a black bag. Wink wink.
We go fishing together and he kind of has him
hook line and sinker pun intended because he's starting to
realize that, like, hold on, maybe James is a little
bit fishy and all this right, and.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Then James right after that James or is it during
that the James story changes and he says, oh, actually
this identity was used dozens and dozens of times, and
by we have no idea of knowing who exactly it was.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And yeah, because he says he says basically like the
secret identity his wife was using was like a very
like like was an old Russian one that was only
used like once. And then basically he's like, yeah, never mind,
this is actually very common. I like, Oh, anyways, George
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just kind of realized that he has James. So instead
of killing him, I guess he's gonna make sure one
like final.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Test it was due diligence. Well the other thing.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I make a little bit of this other thing.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
And I bet you at this point he I don't
know because they never showed this, so we don't know
when he did it. But you know, in that first
meeting at the lake where he's like, and, uh, did
you get the security footage from bank in Myanmar to
see from when it was open to see who it was?
And he's like, no, they're not not cooperating country or whatever,
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and then at the very final scene he's like, and
here's the security image from May and Mar which is
indeed a cooperating country. And we never see when he
actually goes and gets those, but like, I wonder if
that was before this fishing meeting or after, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's really that's a very interesting point. And
I think here's the thing. He could kill James there
and whatever, and and it's all it's all fun, but
all these other people he's kind of realizing are also
lying to him. So I think he also wants to
He wants to real establish why you don't mess with George,
but again, everyone already knows not to mess with George,
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but they do anyways, So he's like re establishing this point, right,
So basically he calls everyone back to dinner again so
he can do his like grand reveal because he's found
out basically his his wife is innocent and and James
is kind of beaning the blame on.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Him on her.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Sorry. So I mean there's other stuff that I'm kind
of lazing through, like relationships stuff between Freddie Moriss, but
doesn't super matter.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I guess I should say.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
There's a lot of tactors scene Freddy and Zoe and
Freddie and Marissa, Yes and James and James and Zoey.
There's like some shrink scenes and stuff like that that
we we learned that Zoey's a look interesting and basically
James and Zoe break up. Zoe's harboring a secret that
that that James has because he knows more about sever
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senting it's like everyone else believe, but he's kind of
told Zoe some of this stuff and Zoe's shorn a secrecy. Anyways,
the we have a lot of detector scene, which is
pretty cool, like an awesome sequence where this is where
the most technology comes in because they like a fingerprint
scanner and stuff like that. George is just asking them
random questions like are you seated? You know, what's your name?
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Did you have intercourse this week? So like random stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You see if they're trying to love how they keep
cutting back and forth between the interviews. Yeah, that was.
That was I don't even know why it was good,
but it.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Just it was just a really interesting sequence right again,
like not like crazy amounts of exposition, but just like
really interesting to see some of the characters reactions and
stuff like that. Chris Maris has read and he knows
exactly which book it is, polygraph, Polygraph whatever one the polygraph, Yeah,
from cover to cover and so she and he's like
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unclench your anus or rect him or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah,
which is kind of funny. Marissa, are you clenching your rectum?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah right, it's just like what.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
And he's just so.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And Passbender plays this so well where it's just like
he's deadpan for literally the entire movie. Yeah, like the
entire movie. He doesn't show hardly any emotion. Even with
his wife, he hardly shows emotion that is very calculated. Yeah,
And and I don't know, it just it's it really
comes through in some of those scenes where like you're
just you know, you're it's it's so funny because he's
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just asking these questions that in any other movie would
be considered a you know, a joke, but it is.
It's perfectly serious, and yet we're so laughing at it.
It's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
So, after a lot of detective tests, he kind of
knows what he needs to know really based on kind
of his personal whatever. So he calls everyone into the
room and he has a gun on the table, a
loaded gun on the table, and he's.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Like, listen, we're gonna play a game.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, We're gonna play a game. And the game is
called they don't say, but the game is called whoever
grabs a gun first basically, and so George starts laying
out like the things he's found out. Basically, he knows
Marissa has been lying to him based on you know,
whatever evidence he has. He finds out that Freddy's also
been lying because he's been cheating with Zoe and Zoe's
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confiding on him some information from Severus, but he doesn't
want to say because you knows. Zoe will basically tell
everyone that he's cheating, and then Zoe knows because he's
confided that James is confided in him, and.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Zoe's also cheating.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So all these characters have information that they're not disclosing
anyone else because they basically have guns to each other's
careers basically, right. Anyways, we find out that yes, the
leak is James, and so James grabs a gun and
it's filled with blanks and he tries to kill like
Michael or George and doesn't work. Catherine pulls out a
(36:54):
gun from her purse and kills him because she's like, yeah,
that was the name of the game, and uh yeah,
So James is dead. Everyone's scared basically, like everyone's swornto
secrecy because they could all lose their job as for
what just happened, and George just like, yeah, that's why
you don't mess with me and my wife, and and so.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
They all kind of agree to secrecy.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
They dump the body in a black bag in the lake,
same place where there's a nice little detail where Michael
Fassbender or George has kind of like caught James in
his lie and then decides to like you know, like
not kill him there. But that's where he like ends
up dumping his body, right, So very interesting. There's probably
some deeper hidden things there.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
But like you like the title too, it's clever because
there's that meaning of it black bag like a body bag.
But there's also like that's what they say, like that's
that's one of the other subplots of this whole movie
or some themes, is like you know, they could nobody
could ever trust anything because anytime there's like, oh, I'm
gonna beu to the country for a week, Oh what
are you doing? Black bag? You know, Yes, that's like
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a term they use for like I can't tell.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You percent and I should have said that more. That's
exactly right. It is a common saying and there's multiple
meanings for that too, because some people use the term
black bag as like oh that's garbage right and filmmaking right,
like you know, you hear the term cutting room floor,
but they say, like where does that footage go?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It goes in a black bag, you.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Know, you know what I mean, So like unwanted things, trash,
disposable goes in a black bag. But very much like
again to what you said, like you know, secrets maybe
also going black bags.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Right, So yeah, I like the title this one pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Very interesting. What I would have liked to see more
because like I said, they put James six feet under
and then there's like a little elevator scene where basically
Catherine tells Arthur that she basically knows that he is
the league and stuff like that, and he should resign
because they know they can't like really like take him down,
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but he's already taken down, so he should just resign
and retire, and that way they don't need to have
a bunch of crazy shenanigans going on, right whatever. What
I would've actually liked to see with another half hour
is now all the characters that have been established and
there they're all like they know not to mess with
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George anymore, and everyone's secrets are out in the table
and open, right. But now there's one more leak that
they all know is Arthur, and they need to take
him down. So I would have liked to see an
our thirty minutes of them all using their skills together
instead of trying to hide things from each other, to
all work together now that their secrets are out and
take Arthur down. I thought that would have been a
(39:32):
really cool thing, to try and catch Arthur in the
lie and all work together. I thought that may have been,
Like because the characters are are awesome, And I was
telling Dawson this, who I went and saw this movie with,
and we were having this conversation like, yeah, we both
really enjoyed the characters. We thought they were interesting. We yeah,
pardon me, we would have liked to see more of
these characters.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
And so well, they're so fleshed out, like they feel
so real, Like they're not just like shallow, single minded,
single goal only there to drive the plot forward. Characters,
they all have their own like the plot feels natural
like it it feels like like not this movie is
trying to prove a point. It feels like we're just
taking a glimpse into the lives of this half dozen people,
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you know.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, no, And and that's that's kind of why I think
like it would be it would be a good idea
show some more of these characters. And and like I said,
the whole movie, they're lying to each other and hiding things,
and George is like putting it all out on the.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Table, if you will.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And and they've all taken down George and they're all
working together now. So it would be really cool instead
of just like saying like, oh, yeah, you should retire
because we know it's you, actually like you know, take
them down a bit, like like like all work together
using some satellite, some Marisa and stuff like that and
phone logs and stuff like that, and maybe get them
trapped in the therapy session with Zoe or something, right, Like,
(40:51):
I don't know, I just feel like that would have
been a really cool way of taking down Arthur at
a little bit of runtimes to the film and just
like you know, flush that final idea out because they
defeat one half of the leaks, right and then like
they're like, oh, yeah, we defeated the other leak by
basically saying he should retire or whatever because we we
caught him right handed. But it's like, to me, that's
a little week because I feel like they've only solved
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half the problem really, or they've solved the problem, but
it's like, you know what I mean, one of them
is kind of just walking away and so it's like
that's why I feel like it would have been cool
to maybe see them take down Arthur and work together
as like the smartest guys in the NCS whatever. Handoffs, Like,
there's a lot of handoffs. I mean there's shots of
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people like grabbing things and walking away right like when
Catherine drops a note and the sugar and whatever. But
I feel like that's like kind of how I would
describe the filmmaking of this too, Like I just feel
like it hands off kind of thing, you know, Like
you know, it's hard to explain, but you get what I'm.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Saying, right like it, Yeah, the progressions feel very natural,
and like the way it switches from shot to shot
and the way it moves feels very like with the plot.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, and there was a shot that was very soft
focused that I didn't like. It was redistracting in the
boathouse scene, the second one when George is in there,
it's all super blurry and bad, and well.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
That's the one really about this movie. I spent the
first ten minutes trying to figure if there's something wrong
with my eyes.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yes, because.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Shot like, well, it's just such a shallow focus the
entire time. It's just so shallow, and it's it's fine
once you get used to it. Sort of. I would
have liked to have seen a little bit deeper because
as it was, like there was times where like their
eyes were always in focus, but like maybe then his
(42:38):
hand isn't right, Like it's like this one like tiny tiny.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Spot like like they shot it with like a really
far away eighty five millimeter Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Exactly, it's and then like a point six aperture or
something like it was. It was just it was so
so shallow that like it was just I don't know,
it's just weird. Yeah, and like it was unique. It
wasn't bad, Like I got used to it by the end.
But like I said, I spent the first time it
was trying to figure out my eyes were going blur,
Like in the dinner.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Room seeing the lights on the table were so bright
and I was looking at the thing on IMDb, and
they were like they were trying to make it bright
and interesting like that, but it was just way too bright.
It was distracting, and.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I almost felt like it was like kind of like
moody almost like yeah, just it was, it was, but
it's the lighting also is a very interesting thing, Like
there's such a stark contrast between the scenes in the
house and the scenes in the office. Like the scenes
in the house are all kind of like yellow and
a little more like like dark, like not dark, but
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like a little yellower color, a little more homely, almost dramatic,
and more like closed in. But then the scenes in
in the office are all like very open, lots of
white light.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
And windowsill and and yeah, and it feels almost cold.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
M m exactly. But almost at the same time though,
I kind of like that because like, yeah, at the office,
there's you know, they're trying to figure that out. There's
you know, they're all scheming around each other, but at
the same time they are also in the home.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Like to me, I would argue that they're scheming in
the home. In the office is more is actually a
little less reserve because they're all on their own in that.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, and so it would have been like I could
see it where it's like the home is the safe place,
so it's gonna feel more homely and cozy and whatnot.
But then the office is more hostile. But like you say,
a lot more of the actual like confrontations happen in
the home. Yeah, so it's it's it's a weird one
for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
But and here's yeah, I just yeah, the light was
so bright because on the table scene too, there's not
a thing.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
The focus is on.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Like whatever dish has, like the true serum, whatever, but
you can't see any of the food on the table
because the lights are so blinding.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, we never actually saw the food that they put
it in.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Well they did. I think they showed up. They did
a little and maybe pretty much empty and who's eating it?
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Right? Like right, I don't think it any of them
actually took a bite the entire dinner scene. Well, that
reminds me. There was one time, uh I saw a
clip about it. Chris Pratt. I think he was shooting
a dinner I guess scene in for a movie, and
there was they were supposed to beating ribs and he
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was eating like a half rack of ribs every take,
and they just did some insane amount of takes and
he just kept eating ribs the entire time. It ended
up eating a couple of racks of ribs or something
like that. That's saying it was. I'll see if I
can find the clip, will show you.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, so that's the lighting and some things in the
soft focus on the boat scene was kind of tough.
But other than that, like you know what I mean,
it wasn't like anything crazy noticeable.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Or not right.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
I feel like there must have been a hidden cut
in the water, because they do like this like the
lens splash thing and like you blink for a second.
I feel like there's probably hidden cut there.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
I'm just trying to watch for hidden cuts as well.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
But like I said, there's not a lot of It's
not like a very complicated winner, but I feel, hey,
maybe they did have.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
A little like where it's it shows him from the
back the entire time until right near the end of it,
Like it feels very much like like it draws you
in right like, oh, who's this, what's this? What's going
on here? What's what's this? You know?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Very impractical instead of going to the alley where the
guy is. He decides to go into the club, walk
all the way through the club and a sea if
people into the back alley on the other side, where
I'm like.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Really, you want to do spooky spy shit, why not
just like you know, like meet me on this rooftop
at oh five hundred instead of like.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna walk through a crowd of people, okay,
and I'm gonna look them in the eyes like in
this club, and then I'll go at the back door.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yes, I know what you mean. It's like interesting.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I mean it made for like cool little shots and
seemed like I'm not like complaining about that. It's just
interesting into me. I thought the movie went by fast. Uh,
let's see, no gadgets. It's kind of like what we're saying,
there's no like fancy spy movie gadgets that you'd expect.
(47:16):
There's something like fingerprint readers and whatnot, but like, really
other than that, like in the light detector, there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
I really like that aspect of it. Actually, it felt
a little more grounded, yeah, grounded and realistic, and like
they it felt more like they rely less on the technology, right,
Like it means that their actual intellect is more you
know what I mean, Like, you know, there's a scene
(47:42):
in I think we mentioned it last week with Spider
Man Homecoming with if you know, if nothing, right, Like
it's the same thing, like you know, you gotta you know,
And this this is a perfect example that, like they
don't need the technology. The only thing they really used,
like you said, it's a satellite and the polygraph like right, yeah,
huh it is.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
I just think that's like a cool little way of
being like mm hmm, like different from like what I
would be like a James Bond movie or something like that,
And I feel like it sets more of the tone,
especially if we're not doing car chases and other things
like that.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Right, Yeah, as you say, they do.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Like launch like a drone at at a car explode.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
But still it's not like, you know, crazy explosions in
the middle of amsterealist, right, Like it's like and it's
just on some random country road and like of course
they're going to use a targeted drone strike to take
out a Russian mobs or Russian whatever he is.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Right, Yeah, that's pretty much what I have.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah. I actually made notes for this one because I
knew we wouldn't be reviewing it right away, so like.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I uh, I I enjoyed this one. I'm not gonna
lie I. I thought this was a good, solid movie.
Like I said, I really would have loved to see
that ending where they like all team up and work together,
just because I feel.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Like I know what you meant. I can see why
they wouldn't and that like these characters, they're all still
very suspicious of each other and that's just kind of
the game. So I can understand why they didn't, but
I also think would have worked well if they did.
Like I'm kind of I'm I'm they all.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Know each other's secrets and they've all mutually teamed up
to understand that, Yeah, James has disappeared and we don't
know why.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
True. That's that's very true. Yeah, yeah, right, did and
get out? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Did you have anything else?
Speaker 1 (49:23):
I don't have anything else. I recovered everything I want
to talk about.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Cool, Yeah you go, you go first.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
I really enjoyed this movie, like I think, I said,
I think it had a lot of really interesting technical elements,
and even if they didn't really hit for me, like
especially with like you said, with the focus and the
color stuff, I got used to it, and I and
I will applaud them for doing something different and not
just you know, following the formula, right, And I think
that's that's that's something that I want to see you
(49:54):
more of in modern movies, is something different, like when
we When I saw this movie, I'm like, this is
something different, and I think that's really important. And I
enjoyed it too, So I'm gonna I'm gonna give it.
And also I think the I think the writing was
really well done because to like, it takes really good
acting to do this sort of like an intellectual film
(50:16):
when it's not just all explosions and action sequences, right,
it takes really good acting, which is why they needed
that cast.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Like a spy movie that focuses on dialogue rather than shootouts.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, exactly, and so and then, but then it also
takes really good writing. If you have crappy running, it
doesn't matter how good the actors are, it's only gonna
get to a certain point, right, And so I'm gonna
I'm gonna give this an eight point four.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Eight point four Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's fair. I
think I'm gonna give it an eight out of ten
I think it's a solid movie.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
I'd see it again, like at home. You know.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
I don't think it's gonna win any Best Picture or
anything like that, but I think it was just like
a nice, solid movie that was pretty enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
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And now time for the viewing Room with Adam and Eton.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to the Viewing Room, where we talk about films
new and all to local and global. Today we're talking
about Black Bag, which released March fourteenth, twenty twenty five,
with a budget of sixty million US dollars. Ooh, I mean, oh,
that seems like a lot, doesn't it. I think probably
Kate Lanchett and Michael Fasbitter probably, Yeah, to come a
(00:44):
substantial paycheck. Right now, though still early, we've only growed
thirty million dollars as of two days ago.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I think they put they should have put more of
that money into the marketing.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes, I never went to this movie scene in a
single trailer or an ad on Instagram or or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The only reason I was aware of it is because
I was going to a movie with my other friends
and I looked up what was playing at the cineplex
and I'm like, Nope, don't want to see that. Nope,
that looks like shit, Nope, don't want to see that. Nope, Nope, nope,
Oh what's that? Never even heard of it before? Like
the same as you never heard of it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I've only seen I only saw the poster like.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Leading into it. Yeah, yeah, and so I looked up
the trailer read the descriptions of like how that looks interesting?
So yeah, you know, it was like like completely undermarketed
like like, and I think if it had been marketed better,
it would have done well.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I only heard things about it because I had a
friend who I went and saw with who was interested
in seeing it and known things about it. But but yeah,
like I wasn't really or mean, like I wasn't privy
to a lot of that information, right, And I'm just
looking up here the synopsis.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
By Tusk Tusk Tusk. Basically the way I described it
to people was Mister and Missus Smith, which we have reviewed.
I think it was episode like two or three. Go
check that out. Mister and Missus Smith. But instead of
solving problems with bullets, they solve them with words. Yes,
until the very end.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, if you're interested in spy movies and and like
kind of like maybe some of that verbal jousts and
stuff that we talk about, this is a movie for you.
But if you're into spy movies like James Bond with
fancy gadgets and car chases, yeah, you're not getting that.
You're getting fourteen page dinner scenes with verbal exposition and
(02:43):
little bits of foreshadowing. You know, I think this movie
could have used more foreshadowing actually in a way, because
I think it could have been a little bit more creative.
And I'll talk about that that later, because there's some
things that are just like a little bit missing. I
really like this.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Movie, but there's somethings I thoroughly enjoyed it a special
compared to some of the other things that have been
coming out, Like I didn't feel like I wasted my
money when I went to this right. No, it was
really quick too. But that's the other thing is that
it was done. I was like, I wonder how long
this movie was, Like I completely offt track of time, Like, yo,
it would have been about two hours. No, it was
an hour and a half. Not even Yeah, when you
(03:17):
factor in the fact like the credits and everything, it
wasn't even an hour and a half. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I don't like go on my phone in the movies.
That's so dumb.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But sometimes you take a quick peek at the time
or something.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well I do that with my watch, like like I
always say to me, like a measure of how like
into a movie I am or how well a movie
can hold me is how many times do I look
at my watch during the movie, Right, Yeah, If I
don't look at my watch at all, then like it's
held me. But like if I'm like every ten minutes
I'm looking at my watch, then yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I feel like I've been to a few movies
this year where I may have like definitely done a
quick peek at the old phone just to see what
time it was, like, just because like, like, man, this
is good.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
This is kind of long, but.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
But no, like this one went by really fast. Dare
I say maybe could have been longer? As someone who
likes short movies, there's I'll talk about this. There's a
little bit more, but I maybe would have liked to
see that. I think could have been a two hour movie,
but like, holy crap, this is a good two hour.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I'm curious what they what they would have cut, like
what the original like the director's cow would have been.
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't have any information on that.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I don't I don't either. I'm just I'd be curious
to see that. You know the other thing I.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Was gonna say, oh, maybe I'll wait for that, but
but Okay, No, you know what, I don't think this film,
like will deserve deserves a sequel, just so you now.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I mean, I don't think it will get a sequel,
and I don't think a sequel do it justice.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I don't think it will, and I don't want to.
I liked I liked the characters a lot, and technically
would have wanted to see more from them, but I wouldn't.
I wouldn't take that in the form.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Of a sequel. No. The only reason it would get a
sequel is if this made a shit ton of money
and they want to do it again. No, and I
don't think a sequel would naturally flow like it didn't
set it up for a sequel. I think it's just
a good standalone movie. You know, right.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Cast Kate Planchett, Fasbender. Yeah, that thirty one million dollar
gross is Oh well?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Who was the other two? Big name.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
James Bigger named Arthur Zoe.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't remember which character Reddy. Let me looking up.
You read the synopsis while I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
This, Okay, Okay, okay, I'll read the synopsis.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
When his beloved wife Catherine is suspected of betraying the
nation intelligence agent George Woodhouse. George Woodhouse faces the ultimate
test loyalty to his marriage or his I'm true.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Scars. It was a small just that small role. And
then also Pierce Brosnan small role.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Directed by Stevens Soderbergh. Why did I say that so weird?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I'm just really good at that. This is based in UK,
obviously at the n c s C, which is the
National Cyber Security Center, which is a real thing, and
the governments of UK it's like their main intelligence agency
beside six. I thought that that would have been like
the version of the CIA, but no, it's not. It's
(06:09):
like the National Security whatever for the States instead, that's
like the what would the reference be.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
The States has a lot more organizations than most countries.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get into fact. I don't
have many facts withists. I just want to say something
that's cool is most intelligence agencies in the world higher therapists, Oh,
which is pretty cool. Like lit look facts like in
this movie they have doctor Zoe, who's like the therapists
that all the characters.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Like confide in and do counseling and stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Still as fucked up as the rest of them, right,
But yeah, that's like a real thing that because they
don't want their agents talking to therapists outside. Yeah you
know what I mean, they hire and employee therapists like
it's worn to secrecy inside the the facilities, which is cool,
very interesting. Maybe it's even dangerous because I feel like
(07:01):
that's like the perfect way to get very valuable information
that otherwise it wouldn't be stated.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, but there if you're getting hired by a government
agency of any kind, no less an intelligence agency, the
amount of checking and backgrounds and everything are astronomical. Yes, yes,
I would assume.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, this is very interesting because.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It's just so unique. I think if you like, it's
just it's just different, right, like just just different from
normal more normal spy action mainstream movies.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
If you if you like car chases and gunfights, you're
not going to get any of that. It's just dialogue.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I really like the the the it's like an it's
like a instead of a battle of ron's a battle
of brains, you know, Like it's it's there's there's certain
level of like like an intellect in the in the characters,
and it's just verbal jousting, like you said, it's it's
I don't know. I like it good. I'll take a
good action sequence any day, right, good car chases, lots
(08:03):
of explosions. But there's something about it where it's just
like scratches that it, you.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Know, right, part of it makes it harder to justify
an inflated budget like sixty million dollars because you're like, okay,
hold on a second here, right, like if the James
Bond movies are a hundred million dollars, Like, okay, I
get it's a ton more money. But this film's a
pretty short film too, like an hour and a half.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I feel like though, that they probably had a lot
of takes. I just have this feeling like there was
a lot of takes in this movie, Okay, I I
And I don't even know why. I wonder if maybe
part of it, like I don't know, it just it
just seemed to me like there was there was there
was a lot of the vibe of the movie was
(08:47):
they did it until they got it right, you know, like,
oh that was good, Like no, that was exactly what
I wanted. It just feels like it has that kind
of precision. But then again, like there's only like what
three locations. Really, You've got the office, like general locations.
You've got the office, got the lake with the fishing boat,
and you got their home.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, but you also have like ZERI and car. Yeah,
there's a few there a car.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
There is a car explosion.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But another interesting thing and I lost it actually never mind.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Very interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, that was that I was I was so prepared
and that that that earth completely left my brain because
you made a.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Good that it was the earth shattering caboo. Is this
supposed to be an eth shattering caboo?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No, there is like some cool satellite stuff like that. Yeah,
but yeah, like I guess, Yeah, there isn't like a
ton of locations, is there not?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Really? I mean, like compared to a James Bond movie,
there isn't really that many locations. Yeah. Interesting. Okay, let's
go through a plot.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, okay, so I'm gonna list of some characters make
this a little bit more so. Okay, we have Catherine
and George. They're a married couple. Okay, they both work
at NCSC. We have doctor Zoe, who's like the NCSC therapist.
We have Freddie, who is you know, he works at NCSC. Yes,
(10:19):
n CSC is he's kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
A little hot headed, but.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know, younger, he's intelligent, you know whatever. Still we
have James. James is another guy who is dating Zoe,
the therapist works at NCSC.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But he's also married or no, No, they're right, that's right,
they're just no, she's not dating Zoe. He's dating the
satellite operator what's her name? Oh? Oh, I forget that right,
But it turns out he's actually sleeping with the No,
the therapist.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
He's streeping with her, sleeping with Freddy is the one cheating. Yeah,
not not not.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
No, they're both are remember not James, Yeah what they
both are?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
What?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, Freddy and James are both sleeping with a therapist.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Right, but but James is is dating James and the
therapist are actually dating. Freddy is the one cheating by
going to the hotel room, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yes, right, that's right? Yes, yeah? And the is it Marissa?
I think is the lady? Right? I think it's Marissa, Yeah,
something like that. I don't remember their names.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I know it's there's big ensemble, right, And when you
watch a movie a few days before you record the episode,
you're like, whoa, Yeah, I do think i'd see this again. Like,
I definitely watched this again.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I feel like I wouldn't go to the theater again
for it, but yeah, I would watch it again for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I'd watched it on like the cineplex store for
six bucks.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah. Yeah, it's not Deadpool and Wolverine level of go
watch it again. Yeah, yeah, because you and I both
went back and saw that multiple times in the theater.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I saw the movie three times in the theater.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I saw it twice in the theater, and I have
zero regrets.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, honestly, like I just had I had a good time.
It's nice going to a movie where, you know what
I mean, you just have a farm, you just have
a fun time watching.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, it's a social movie and as long as you
go with people, you have fun.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, it's not like I was going to
study an analyze that. I was literally just going to
hear Dick jokes. Yeah, exactly, exactly what I paid for. Okay,
as we break down Black Back, Okay, I've listed off
some of those characters, some of the relationships. Marissa is
dating ready, ready, it's cheating on Marissa with the therapist Zoe.
(12:47):
Zoey's in a relationship with James thing back a boom.
They all work at the Security Agency, and they're all
intelligent people with some flaws. Okay, we basically find out.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Some flaws is a light way of putting it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We we find out this thing called Severus has been
leaked on a little USB. Basically, what Severus can do
is like a little bug that like gets into nuclear
reactors and can kind of cause them to like implode
or melt melt down, basically causing I.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Actually watch a really cool documentary on nuclear reactors and
what happens when they melt down. Very interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Anyway, I feel like that was a threat, like you
just got put on the lists summer.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, no, no, it's I know. It's just the signs
behind how they melt down, not like here's go how
to go melt down? Where's our nuclear plant? Do we
have a nuclear plant in Saskatchewan? We don't. They want
to put the small module the reactors, the SMRs. I
don't know if we have any in Canada right now.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I would be really interested in going to see like
something like that too.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That'd be awesome, go to see where Homer Simpson works
that would be funny, not specifically the one where Homer
Simpson were scause I don't trust to anybody involved with
that nuclear plant.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So we find out Severus has been leaked and some
bad guys are going to use it. They created Severus
as like a way to like mess with other countries,
like if we melt down their reactors, it'll cause our
political thing to be like really scary and it might
help shift the turn of war or something like against.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
What Also, wasn't it just like as an experiment, like
like because I think because how does he say? He's
like if they can if we can do it to them,
then they can do it to us. And so we
created it as an as an experiment. It was never
supposed to leave the building or something. That's correct.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But anyways, someone from the NCSC leaks it and tries
to like sell it basically and rations and and yeah,
like it would cause a lot of deaths. Yeah, and
they say thousands.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Now maybe that's true, but I just feel like I feel.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Like it would be more than that.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It really depends on how well the mouth done is contained.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
How many people like died at you noble.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Well, But see, it's hard to tell because in the
immediate explosion, I don't think there was very many. But
it's all the follow right, Yeah, it's the waste that
gets settled over a huge area and then the cleanup
cruise and everything, and then it's also right, yeah, and
it's like, Okay, so maybe you got exposed, but you
don't die or have any symptoms, but maybe you died
(15:41):
twenty years earlier from cancer than you might have otherwise, right,
And so it's so hard to quantify, right, it's so
hard to quantify why, like how many people actually died.
But I mean, like an actual meltdown itself, if contained properly,
wouldn't really have that much of an effect. I think
(16:02):
I could be wrong, but that yeah, Like.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
For me, I don't really know much about that. I mean, again,
you probably know more than I do. But I'm just
someone who's scared of that stuff because.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I mean you've got like you've got like places like
three Mile Island and stuff like famous ones where like.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Is that off really like put the nukes on the water, like.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
No, no, No, Three Mile Island was a nuclear reactor in Pennsylvania.
I think it was somewhere in the States.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
The famous islands of.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I don't remember anyway it was. It was if they're
one of the reactors had an issue or something, and
it was the big The big controversy around that one
was the government kind of not exactly covering it up
but not telling people how serious it actually was. And
(16:56):
they ended up venting a bunch of nuclear steam into
the area and so that was like the big thing.
But if they hadn't vented all that steam, then it
would have been contained. So I don't know, it's yeah,
I don't nothing. I don't remember exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Again, I Pennsylvania have islands.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It probably wasn't Pennsylvania. I don't remember where.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Now, Yeah, I like again, not the best geography either.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Going to do.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I'm gonna just yeah, yeah, this is right. This is
just misinformation city then.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania at least radioactive gases and radioactive
eye dining into the environment. So the accident began with
failures in the non nuclear secondary system, followed by a
stuck open, pilot operated relief valve, which allowed large amounts
of water to escape from the pressurized isolated coolant loop.
Because basically, a meltdown is when the the so like
(17:59):
you know, you've all your cores, your nuclear reactor cores,
and they're hot creating steam which power turns a turbine,
which was what creates the actual power. And so if
they lose their water cooled and if they lose cooling,
then they overheat and melt like the actual Yeah, it
(18:22):
becomes unstable and it actually it melts. That's why it's
called a meltdown. So when the pilot operated relief valve
large large amounts of water to escape from the pressurized
isolated coolant loop. The mechanical failures were compounded by the
initial failure of a plant operators to recognize the situation
as a loss of coolant. TMI training and operating procedures
(18:43):
left tm I was the was the company, it was
like Thomas something whatever it was. Training and operating procedures
left operators in management ill prepared for the deteriorating situation
caused by the loss of coolant accident UH During the accident,
these inadequate sees were compounded by design flaws such as
(19:04):
poor control design, the use of multiple similar alarms, and
a failure of the equipment to indicate either the coolant
inventory level or the position of the stuck open pilot
operated relief valve. So anyway, that's the basic thing. Yeah, anyway,
it's gonna be going back online in twenty twenty eight
(19:25):
with the ideal of with Microsoft as part of their
data center cooling. Uh so that's just a lot of
people open house.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But yeah, makes you wonder why, like how they could
make something like that loose power, Like can they find
a way to have backup power ran by like little
hamsters and wheels like that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, it wasn't the power loss, it was the actual
the ve. So there was too much pressure in the
coolant loop, so the pilot operated relief valve, so like
the operator opened the relief valve to let water out
of the loop to lower the pressure, and then that
valve got stuck open and we're let too much water out.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Which yeah interesting, yeah interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, Then there was yeah, and then there's like but
it wasn't just human air, but it was. It was
human error compounded by mechanical failure because they tried to
close it but they didn't. It didn't indicate that it
wasn't closed, that they kept losing pressure if I remember correctly,
or there was an indicator something I don't remember all
the details now, but that's the basic idea is that
(20:29):
it wasn't like there was a huge explosion. It was
that they released radioactive gas like steam.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, that's like when I when I barbecue dogs and
then I realized half an hour after I finished eating
that the gases, so I run outside in the backyard.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that kind of that kind of
reminds me of that.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I would not be good at a nuclear energy plant.
You can't even walk around without bumping into a camera.
And a terrible idea for me.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh, I wasn't supposed to lean on that, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I would be the sole cause, not even.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Intentionally, Yeah no, not intentionally, I would be.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
A national threat, just out of stupidity. I genuinely don't think, like, yeah, anyway,
that's that's through my island, and that that would be
what I assume would happen.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I could be wrong. I'm not an expert. Is anyone
we likes?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yea, there are experts in the world's Yeah, yes, I
just said. That's a cope with the fact that I'll
never be smart enough to understanding your technologies. Okay, so
service has been leaked. George is basically tasked with finding
a leak. No, as I say that initial plot hole,
(21:57):
why did they make George in charge of finding Why
would they do that? Why would the directors put him
on charge of the leak when the director spoil alert
is in on it. It would make the most physical sense
to put James Spoiler, who's also in on it, in
charge of finding the leak.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
True, but we don't know what We don't really know
what his position is. Maybe his that's not something that
would be under his kind of scope of his position, right, Like,
we don't really know what he.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I mean, director, the manager, like the director, you just
be like, like Arthur, you just be like, I'm signing
this to James.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, but if James's job is you know, a policy writer,
not saying that's what it was, but I'm saying, then
having him assigned to find a leak would be really fishy, right.
That's my point is that, like.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, but my job is to edit shorts, and if
Gary told me to watch Maggie's behind, I'd probably just
do it.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Anyways, you know, that's a terrible example, and I don't know.
I was just saying things I can tell.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, anyways, leaked, That's just something I was thinking of. Obviously,
we know George is the best at what he does.
Not to mess with George, which multiple times characters say,
don't mess with George because he's so great, and then
everyone in this movie decides to mess with George. Yeah,
very interesting. Everyone everyone knows not to mess with George,
but then continues to do so for an hour and
(23:18):
a half, which is kind of funny. Basically, George is
trying to find this leak. We have a nice little
dinner scene. We're kind of like meeting some of our characters.
We have a nice little dinner you know.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
That's one thing that I really like about this is
that the characters have prior relations like prior relationships with
each other. Yeah, and so when we're dropped into that
dinner scene, it's like we're dropped into, you know, a
family gathering of someone that you just met, like you
know what I mean, Like yeah, And it feels more realistic.
(23:50):
It doesn't feel like they're trying to explain a bunch
of backstory and stuff and it just feels like you're
just a fly on the wall, right. Feels like coworkers too, Yeah,
just feels like you're just you're in the scene and
but you're not. Like it's not like a it feels
like it's not a story. And I know that sounds
like a weird thing to say, but like it just
feels like, like I said, you're just a fly on
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the wall, and like.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I don't know, it just has a more realistic feel
and a little more like intense kind of speaking of
flying on the wall, they do these shots, oh yes, and.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I wasn't a huge fan of them. I appreciate when
you try to do something like a little quirky and
cool and different. There's two things that I don't really
like about this scene. Otherwise I think it's great. They
do these weird above angle shots from either side of
the table, and they have like four weird angles that
they keep cutting to, and in one of them it's
everyone on one side, the other one it's everyone on
the other side, and then in another one it's like
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half of someone and two people, and then they do
that again from the other side. I don't know, I
wasn't like a huge fan of I get it using
that as an establishing shot, like to set the scene,
but like for some reason, I just.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Well, but you know, I think part of that also
plays into the overall shooting of this, like that the
whole opening is shot in wide angles and everything might
say I also should add the wonner one at the beginning, very.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Very simple, basic wonner.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
But it works. Yeah, I liked it. I thought it
was it was good and it's a solid opening. But yeah,
like all the shots in this movie, as in general,
start wide, and by the end of the movie you're
getting tighter. Yeah, like, look at the difference in the
shots between the first dinner scene and the second dinner scene,
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and and like the first ones are a lot wider
than the second ones.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I think the changes to match more of the dialogue. Yeah,
it's like trying, We're trying to figure it out, so
it's like quick, quick, now. There's some foreshadowing in the scene.
I feel like a lot of the a lot of
the reveals at the end for who did what just
feels like a character saying, hey, I did this, instead
of like you know what, we actually see little hint
(26:00):
of that. Yeah, like like obviously showing someone putting the
movie ticket in the waistba basket, isn't isn't like like necessary,
but like, yeah, it would have been better if they
made it more to fine, like oh, James is stepping
away to use the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
You know you know what I mean, like just something
a little more defined, because a lot of it just
kind of feels like, yeah, I did this and did
this and did this, and we find out with like
some some foreshadowing that like we know because everyone's been
given like a little truth serum, and so we find
out that Freddy's cheating, right, and it's just like one
of those things where it's like instead of like maybe
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doing a shot where we can kind of like see
like doctor Zoe like choking on her wine a little bit, like,
you know, as a little reveal it instead like George
is like, yeah, and you guys were cheating together, and
then we show that as like a cutaway thing instead
of like finding out a bit more naturally. You feel
like I feel like a lot of the reveals are
just reveals because it's cool to have reveals.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, when it like and.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
They're they're good, it's interesting, But I feel like it
does it feels like when you watch this movie again,
you're not really watching it for a lot of foreshadowing
value because I just feel like I just feel like
a lot of the foreshadowing wasn't as like there wasn't
as much as there could have been.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, but again, short movie too, right, so when it's
not very long, maybe they have to cut some of
that stuff out. Anyways, we find out, like I said,
Freddie's cheating, everyone's kind of doing stuff with their lives whatever.
George finds a movie ticket in the waste basket of
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his bathroom, and now he's kind of been led to
believe that, uh oh, his wife Catherine is probably sneaking
around and doing some spishy stuff. So he starts doing
some espionage on her. He uh kind of like figures
out she's gonna be leaving the country on Wednesday. They
go and see this movie together on Tuesday, so he
can kind of see if she's seen this movie before.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
He's testing to see if she's actually seen that movie,
if it was planted.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, and so he's kind of determined that, oh, maybe
she hasn't seen this movie and this wasn't her ticket, right,
And I.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Thought that was actually really clever, like as a as
a as an a tactic.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, and then he basically goes to snoop on our
computer and and find out that she's been lying to
him and she's not like leaving the country to go
to wherever she said, she's actually going to Zurich. And
and oh she said she was.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Going to Zurich. She just couldn't tell him why.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
No, I think it was somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I'm pretty sure right, she's no, she just said yeah, yeah,
I don't remember. I'm pretty sure she was going. He
does find out that she's going to Zurich in his
inner counter.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, and so he kind of like, help, it's Marissa,
I believe. He goes to her and basically, like the
satellites have dead zones where like when one operator takes over,
there's a couple of minutes where the satellite goes offline.
So he kind of hacks into it at that point
kind of thing with with the help of Marissa, and
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basically finds out that she's I guess is it she's
buying or she's selling?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
She is.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
She so so he thinks she's selling severus.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Right, because there's then there's is this scene with is
the scene with James after that or before on the
fishing boat when like after he goes fishing. Yeah, and
he comes back and James is like, well, I thought
we should keep this off the books, but we detected
this this old identity. I think washing the border is
that after.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I think it's I want to say it's after because
I think he also mentions that the satellite picked something up, right,
I think I think.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Something like that. So so basically.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
It looks like that Catherine is trying to sell severus
for a bunch of money to the Russian general. Uh
oh spaghetti, Oh not good? Yeah right, and so oh no,
George is like, oh, my wife is part of this,
this is interesting whatever. So he goes fishing, I guess,
to clear his head think of some stuff. James meets
(30:19):
up with him, basically tells him that his wife is
in on it and it's pretty much pretty obvious, just
to let him know, and that seven million dollars. Yeah.
And the other thing is the kind of director at
the satellite station kind of saw that the satellite was
hacked because of a visual glitch, so they kind of
know something was up, and now the director knows about it.
(30:41):
So the director kind of like pulls every into the meeting.
He's like, hey, I know someone's been snooping on the
satellite and stuff like that, and one of someone in
this room is kind of like a leak. Very interesting
that he's like he knows someone in the room is
a leak, which he one hundred percent does know who
the leak is because he's one of them.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
There's two of him. Yeah, but from his perspective, he's
trying to he's gonna try and pin it on someone else, right, So.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Well, him and James were in cahoots Arthur and James
wa hoots. Anyways, we find out from George. He goes
fishing with James and he's he's trying to figure out like, hmm,
maybe maybe James is in on this has like some
something to do with it. He brings a gun, he's ready,
(31:23):
he might put him in a black bag. Wink wink.
We go fishing together and he kind of has him
hook line and sinker pun intended because he's starting to
realize that, like, hold on, maybe James is a little
bit fishy and all this right, and.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Then James right after that James or is it during
that the James story changes and he says, oh, actually
this identity was used dozens and dozens of times, and
by we have no idea of knowing who exactly it was.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And yeah, because he says he says basically like the
secret identity his wife was using was like a very
like like was an old Russian one that was only
used like once. And then basically he's like, yeah, never mind,
this is actually very common. I like, Oh, anyways, George
(32:13):
just kind of realized that he has James. So instead
of killing him, I guess he's gonna make sure one
like final.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Test it was due diligence. Well the other thing.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I make a little bit of this other thing.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
And I bet you at this point he I don't
know because they never showed this, so we don't know
when he did it. But you know, in that first
meeting at the lake where he's like, and, uh, did
you get the security footage from bank in Myanmar to
see from when it was open to see who it was?
And he's like, no, they're not not cooperating country or whatever,
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and then at the very final scene he's like, and
here's the security image from May and Mar which is
indeed a cooperating country. And we never see when he
actually goes and gets those, but like, I wonder if
that was before this fishing meeting or after, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's really that's a very interesting point. And
I think here's the thing. He could kill James there
and whatever, and and it's all it's all fun, but
all these other people he's kind of realizing are also
lying to him. So I think he also wants to
He wants to real establish why you don't mess with George,
but again, everyone already knows not to mess with George,
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but they do anyways, So he's like re establishing this point, right,
So basically he calls everyone back to dinner again so
he can do his like grand reveal because he's found
out basically his his wife is innocent and and James
is kind of beaning the blame on.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Him on her.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Sorry. So I mean there's other stuff that I'm kind
of lazing through, like relationships stuff between Freddie Moriss, but
doesn't super matter.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I guess I should say.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
There's a lot of tactors scene Freddy and Zoe and
Freddie and Marissa, Yes and James and James and Zoey.
There's like some shrink scenes and stuff like that that
we we learned that Zoey's a look interesting and basically
James and Zoe break up. Zoe's harboring a secret that
that that James has because he knows more about sever
(34:11):
senting it's like everyone else believe, but he's kind of
told Zoe some of this stuff and Zoe's shorn a secrecy. Anyways,
the we have a lot of detector scene, which is
pretty cool, like an awesome sequence where this is where
the most technology comes in because they like a fingerprint
scanner and stuff like that. George is just asking them
random questions like are you seated? You know, what's your name?
(34:31):
Did you have intercourse this week? So like random stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You see if they're trying to love how they keep
cutting back and forth between the interviews. Yeah, that was.
That was I don't even know why it was good,
but it.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Just it was just a really interesting sequence right again,
like not like crazy amounts of exposition, but just like
really interesting to see some of the characters reactions and
stuff like that. Chris Maris has read and he knows
exactly which book it is, polygraph, Polygraph whatever one the polygraph, Yeah,
from cover to cover and so she and he's like
(35:02):
unclench your anus or rect him or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah,
which is kind of funny. Marissa, are you clenching your rectum?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah right, it's just like what.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
And he's just so.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And Passbender plays this so well where it's just like
he's deadpan for literally the entire movie. Yeah, like the
entire movie. He doesn't show hardly any emotion. Even with
his wife, he hardly shows emotion that is very calculated. Yeah,
And and I don't know, it just it's it really
comes through in some of those scenes where like you're
just you know, you're it's it's so funny because he's
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just asking these questions that in any other movie would
be considered a you know, a joke, but it is.
It's perfectly serious, and yet we're so laughing at it.
It's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
So, after a lot of detective tests, he kind of
knows what he needs to know really based on kind
of his personal whatever. So he calls everyone into the
room and he has a gun on the table, a
loaded gun on the table, and he's.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Like, listen, we're gonna play a game.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, We're gonna play a game. And the game is
called they don't say, but the game is called whoever
grabs a gun first basically, and so George starts laying
out like the things he's found out. Basically, he knows
Marissa has been lying to him based on you know,
whatever evidence he has. He finds out that Freddy's also
been lying because he's been cheating with Zoe and Zoe's
(36:20):
confiding on him some information from Severus, but he doesn't
want to say because you knows. Zoe will basically tell
everyone that he's cheating, and then Zoe knows because he's
confided that James is confided in him, and.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Zoe's also cheating.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So all these characters have information that they're not disclosing
anyone else because they basically have guns to each other's
careers basically, right. Anyways, we find out that yes, the
leak is James, and so James grabs a gun and
it's filled with blanks and he tries to kill like
Michael or George and doesn't work. Catherine pulls out a
(36:54):
gun from her purse and kills him because she's like, yeah,
that was the name of the game, and uh yeah,
So James is dead. Everyone's scared basically, like everyone's swornto
secrecy because they could all lose their job as for
what just happened, and George just like, yeah, that's why
you don't mess with me and my wife, and and so.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
They all kind of agree to secrecy.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
They dump the body in a black bag in the lake,
same place where there's a nice little detail where Michael
Fassbender or George has kind of like caught James in
his lie and then decides to like you know, like
not kill him there. But that's where he like ends
up dumping his body, right, So very interesting. There's probably
some deeper hidden things there.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
But like you like the title too, it's clever because
there's that meaning of it black bag like a body bag.
But there's also like that's what they say, like that's
that's one of the other subplots of this whole movie
or some themes, is like you know, they could nobody
could ever trust anything because anytime there's like, oh, I'm
gonna beu to the country for a week, Oh what
are you doing? Black bag? You know, Yes, that's like
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a term they use for like I can't tell.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You percent and I should have said that more. That's
exactly right. It is a common saying and there's multiple
meanings for that too, because some people use the term
black bag as like oh that's garbage right and filmmaking right,
like you know, you hear the term cutting room floor,
but they say, like where does that footage go?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It goes in a black bag, you.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Know, you know what I mean, So like unwanted things, trash,
disposable goes in a black bag. But very much like
again to what you said, like you know, secrets maybe
also going black bags.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Right, So yeah, I like the title this one pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Very interesting. What I would have liked to see more
because like I said, they put James six feet under
and then there's like a little elevator scene where basically
Catherine tells Arthur that she basically knows that he is
the league and stuff like that, and he should resign
because they know they can't like really like take him down,
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but he's already taken down, so he should just resign
and retire, and that way they don't need to have
a bunch of crazy shenanigans going on, right whatever. What
I would've actually liked to see with another half hour
is now all the characters that have been established and
there they're all like they know not to mess with
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George anymore, and everyone's secrets are out in the table
and open, right. But now there's one more leak that
they all know is Arthur, and they need to take
him down. So I would have liked to see an
our thirty minutes of them all using their skills together
instead of trying to hide things from each other, to
all work together now that their secrets are out and
take Arthur down. I thought that would have been a
(39:32):
really cool thing, to try and catch Arthur in the
lie and all work together. I thought that may have been,
Like because the characters are are awesome, And I was
telling Dawson this, who I went and saw this movie with,
and we were having this conversation like, yeah, we both
really enjoyed the characters. We thought they were interesting. We yeah,
pardon me, we would have liked to see more of
these characters.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
And so well, they're so fleshed out, like they feel
so real, Like they're not just like shallow, single minded,
single goal only there to drive the plot forward. Characters,
they all have their own like the plot feels natural
like it it feels like like not this movie is
trying to prove a point. It feels like we're just
taking a glimpse into the lives of this half dozen people,
(40:13):
you know.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, no, And and that's that's kind of why I think
like it would be it would be a good idea
show some more of these characters. And and like I said,
the whole movie, they're lying to each other and hiding things,
and George is like putting it all out on the.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Table, if you will.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And and they've all taken down George and they're all
working together now. So it would be really cool instead
of just like saying like, oh, yeah, you should retire
because we know it's you, actually like you know, take
them down a bit, like like like all work together
using some satellite, some Marisa and stuff like that and
phone logs and stuff like that, and maybe get them
trapped in the therapy session with Zoe or something, right, Like,
(40:51):
I don't know, I just feel like that would have
been a really cool way of taking down Arthur at
a little bit of runtimes to the film and just
like you know, flush that final idea out because they
defeat one half of the leaks, right and then like
they're like, oh, yeah, we defeated the other leak by
basically saying he should retire or whatever because we we
caught him right handed. But it's like, to me, that's
a little week because I feel like they've only solved
(41:12):
half the problem really, or they've solved the problem, but
it's like, you know what I mean, one of them
is kind of just walking away and so it's like
that's why I feel like it would have been cool
to maybe see them take down Arthur and work together
as like the smartest guys in the NCS whatever. Handoffs, Like,
there's a lot of handoffs. I mean there's shots of
(41:32):
people like grabbing things and walking away right like when
Catherine drops a note and the sugar and whatever. But
I feel like that's like kind of how I would
describe the filmmaking of this too, Like I just feel
like it hands off kind of thing, you know, Like
you know, it's hard to explain, but you get what I'm.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Saying, right like it, Yeah, the progressions feel very natural,
and like the way it switches from shot to shot
and the way it moves feels very like with the plot.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, and there was a shot that was very soft
focused that I didn't like. It was redistracting in the
boathouse scene, the second one when George is in there,
it's all super blurry and bad, and well.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
That's the one really about this movie. I spent the
first ten minutes trying to figure if there's something wrong
with my eyes.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yes, because.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Shot like, well, it's just such a shallow focus the
entire time. It's just so shallow, and it's it's fine
once you get used to it. Sort of. I would
have liked to have seen a little bit deeper because
as it was, like there was times where like their
eyes were always in focus, but like maybe then his
(42:38):
hand isn't right, Like it's like this one like tiny tiny.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Spot like like they shot it with like a really
far away eighty five millimeter Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Exactly, it's and then like a point six aperture or
something like it was. It was just it was so
so shallow that like it was just I don't know,
it's just weird. Yeah, and like it was unique. It
wasn't bad, Like I got used to it by the end.
But like I said, I spent the first time it
was trying to figure out my eyes were going blur,
Like in the dinner.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Room seeing the lights on the table were so bright
and I was looking at the thing on IMDb, and
they were like they were trying to make it bright
and interesting like that, but it was just way too bright.
It was distracting, and.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I almost felt like it was like kind of like
moody almost like yeah, just it was, it was, but
it's the lighting also is a very interesting thing, Like
there's such a stark contrast between the scenes in the
house and the scenes in the office. Like the scenes
in the house are all kind of like yellow and
a little more like like dark, like not dark, but
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like a little yellower color, a little more homely, almost dramatic,
and more like closed in. But then the scenes in
in the office are all like very open, lots of
white light.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
And windowsill and and yeah, and it feels almost cold.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
M m exactly. But almost at the same time though,
I kind of like that because like, yeah, at the office,
there's you know, they're trying to figure that out. There's
you know, they're all scheming around each other, but at
the same time they are also in the home.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Like to me, I would argue that they're scheming in
the home. In the office is more is actually a
little less reserve because they're all on their own in that.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, and so it would have been like I could
see it where it's like the home is the safe place,
so it's gonna feel more homely and cozy and whatnot.
But then the office is more hostile. But like you say,
a lot more of the actual like confrontations happen in
the home. Yeah, so it's it's it's a weird one
for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
But and here's yeah, I just yeah, the light was
so bright because on the table scene too, there's not
a thing.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
The focus is on.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Like whatever dish has, like the true serum, whatever, but
you can't see any of the food on the table
because the lights are so blinding.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, we never actually saw the food that they put
it in.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Well they did. I think they showed up. They did
a little and maybe pretty much empty and who's eating it?
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Right? Like right, I don't think it any of them
actually took a bite the entire dinner scene. Well, that
reminds me. There was one time, uh I saw a
clip about it. Chris Pratt. I think he was shooting
a dinner I guess scene in for a movie, and
there was they were supposed to beating ribs and he
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was eating like a half rack of ribs every take,
and they just did some insane amount of takes and
he just kept eating ribs the entire time. It ended
up eating a couple of racks of ribs or something
like that. That's saying it was. I'll see if I
can find the clip, will show you.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, so that's the lighting and some things in the
soft focus on the boat scene was kind of tough.
But other than that, like you know what I mean,
it wasn't like anything crazy noticeable.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Or not right.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
I feel like there must have been a hidden cut
in the water, because they do like this like the
lens splash thing and like you blink for a second.
I feel like there's probably hidden cut there.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
I'm just trying to watch for hidden cuts as well.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
But like I said, there's not a lot of It's
not like a very complicated winner, but I feel, hey,
maybe they did have.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
A little like where it's it shows him from the
back the entire time until right near the end of it,
Like it feels very much like like it draws you
in right like, oh, who's this, what's this? What's going
on here? What's what's this? You know?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Very impractical instead of going to the alley where the
guy is. He decides to go into the club, walk
all the way through the club and a sea if
people into the back alley on the other side, where
I'm like.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Really, you want to do spooky spy shit, why not
just like you know, like meet me on this rooftop
at oh five hundred instead of like.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna walk through a crowd of people, okay,
and I'm gonna look them in the eyes like in
this club, and then I'll go at the back door.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yes, I know what you mean. It's like interesting.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
I mean it made for like cool little shots and
seemed like I'm not like complaining about that. It's just
interesting into me. I thought the movie went by fast. Uh,
let's see, no gadgets. It's kind of like what we're saying,
there's no like fancy spy movie gadgets that you'd expect.
(47:16):
There's something like fingerprint readers and whatnot, but like, really
other than that, like in the light detector, there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
I really like that aspect of it. Actually, it felt
a little more grounded, yeah, grounded and realistic, and like
they it felt more like they rely less on the technology, right,
Like it means that their actual intellect is more you
know what I mean, Like, you know, there's a scene
(47:42):
in I think we mentioned it last week with Spider
Man Homecoming with if you know, if nothing, right, Like
it's the same thing, like you know, you gotta you know,
And this this is a perfect example that, like they
don't need the technology. The only thing they really used,
like you said, it's a satellite and the polygraph like right, yeah,
huh it is.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
I just think that's like a cool little way of
being like mm hmm, like different from like what I
would be like a James Bond movie or something like that,
And I feel like it sets more of the tone,
especially if we're not doing car chases and other things
like that.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Right, Yeah, as you say, they do.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Like launch like a drone at at a car explode.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
But still it's not like, you know, crazy explosions in
the middle of amsterealist, right, Like it's like and it's
just on some random country road and like of course
they're going to use a targeted drone strike to take
out a Russian mobs or Russian whatever he is.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Right, Yeah, that's pretty much what I have.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah. I actually made notes for this one because I
knew we wouldn't be reviewing it right away, so like.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I uh, I I enjoyed this one. I'm not gonna
lie I. I thought this was a good, solid movie.
Like I said, I really would have loved to see
that ending where they like all team up and work together,
just because I feel.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Like I know what you meant. I can see why
they wouldn't and that like these characters, they're all still
very suspicious of each other and that's just kind of
the game. So I can understand why they didn't, but
I also think would have worked well if they did.
Like I'm kind of I'm I'm they all.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Know each other's secrets and they've all mutually teamed up
to understand that, Yeah, James has disappeared and we don't
know why.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
True. That's that's very true. Yeah, yeah, right, did and
get out? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Did you have anything else?
Speaker 1 (49:23):
I don't have anything else. I recovered everything I want
to talk about.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Cool, Yeah you go, you go first.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
I really enjoyed this movie, like I think, I said,
I think it had a lot of really interesting technical elements,
and even if they didn't really hit for me, like
especially with like you said, with the focus and the
color stuff, I got used to it, and I and
I will applaud them for doing something different and not
just you know, following the formula, right, And I think
that's that's that's something that I want to see you
(49:54):
more of in modern movies, is something different, like when
we When I saw this movie, I'm like, this is
something different, and I think that's really important. And I
enjoyed it too, So I'm gonna I'm gonna give it.
And also I think the I think the writing was
really well done because to like, it takes really good
acting to do this sort of like an intellectual film
(50:16):
when it's not just all explosions and action sequences, right,
it takes really good acting, which is why they needed
that cast.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Like a spy movie that focuses on dialogue rather than shootouts.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, exactly, and so and then, but then it also
takes really good writing. If you have crappy running, it
doesn't matter how good the actors are, it's only gonna
get to a certain point, right, And so I'm gonna
I'm gonna give this an eight point four.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Eight point four Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's fair. I
think I'm gonna give it an eight out of ten
I think it's a solid movie.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
I'd see it again, like at home. You know.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
I don't think it's gonna win any Best Picture or
anything like that, but I think it was just like
a nice, solid movie that was pretty enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, thank you guys for watching the viewing Room. We
appreciate all the support. As of late, we do have
an Instagram at the viewing Room Underscore and a patron
at dufferin app media. Thank you so much for watching.
Have a great day.
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