June 3, 2025 • 53 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
And now time for the viewing Room with Adam and Eton.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to the UNI Room, where we talk about films
new and old, local and global. This time we're live,
and I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Said, and this time you don't have work.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, that's true. That's we'll see, actually see if I
get a call. Okay. They were talking about Indiana Jones
and the Raiders of the Lost Arc and we're doing
it live. And keep asking, oh, wow, Ethan, you're doing
this live because you love it so much, and the
answer is yes, yes. The answer is also, we didn't
(00:55):
record itis this week, so we're going live.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah. We do that quite frequently, and the studio is
getting a lot busier. We've we've got a lot of
stuff happening in the studio and so sometimes it's harder
to find time that works for both of us and
the studio. We're both very busy people and the studio
is a busy place, and it's it's difficult.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But yeah, pretty quick, we're going to be recording our
parts separately. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. I don't know how
it's gonna work, but it'll be a fun show. Indiana
Jones Raiders of the Lost Arc was released on June first,
nineteen eighty one. Notable thing that happened today and I'm
gonna today or that day. Okay, bear with me on
(01:34):
the pronunciation. Here o boy, the only candidate in the
presidential election. Okay, Hassan Guled Apadon won the Jibouti election,
which is an East African country. He's the only candidate,
you know what. Good for him he won. He was
the only candidate.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Good for him.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Pretty like interesting to you it apparently, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
He only is this one of those situations where it's
like the only cand it like you know, as in
they call it a democratic party or a democratic country,
but if if you don't vote for that one person,
then you'd magically disappear in the middle of the night. Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I didn't do a ton of research on this. I
was mainly focused on India Jones, as you should as
I didn't get the vibe that it was like a
dictatorship because it wasn't like he ruled for thirty years
kind of yeah, right, like it it seemed like he
had like a like a reasonable term like probably like
eight ten years something like that, and then like like
(02:29):
nothing crazy. Uh, he just was the only candidate and
I think, you know, probably developing in that that time frame, right, and.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, who else good for him?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Good for him? Hopefully was good for everyone else. Yeah,
that's how I should phrase that. Yeah, Jones a budget
of twenty million USD not bad.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yep, especially for the time.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, like reasonable size budget, and it grossed three hundred
and fifty four million dollars, making it the highest grossing
film of nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think Superman two also came out that year. That
was a high contender.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
In so many Superman movies, it's impossible to keep them
all straight.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I've seen. I've definitely seen every single Superman movie.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Ah, but if I've seen those ones from like the
fifties or it was a TV show.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, like the one where he you when he flies
up and spins the earth around.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I can't know, but like I'm talking like it's like
an old black and white one from like the fifties,
and I can't remember what his name was, but anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Uh, Gary Ruster?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Gary?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Which which one was the one where he spins the
earth around? Is that Superman two?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's three?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, I've seen I've seen all of those ones and
when people ask me what's my favorite Superman, I actually
just say probably for me, Batman be Superman. And I
know that's just not even a great movie and it
has some really terrible dialogue and it's actually not that
good at all.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But I actually I got to hear this is just
a vation.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I actually had a really good time in the theater.
It was actually like one of the last movies I
saw with my grandpa. Oh okay, that makes sense, and
my aunt was there. It's the only time I've ever
gone to a movie theater is my aunt as well.
And they played the movie in like the first eight
minutes there was no sound, so they had to restart
the whole movie and yeah, no, So that was definitely
(04:23):
like like yeah, good memory in the theaters for that
because it's just like so random and weird and you
saw Scotia Bank downtown and like, yeah, it was it
was fun.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It was good.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I had a good time. And then like I think
when you're younger too and you're having a good time
with the theater, I think you're less focused on maybe
the the artistical development of bad Man to be Superman,
and you've just become focused on oh hell yeah, Man, Superheroes, right, yeah,
and I think eleven year old me just really messed
(04:52):
with Superman, right and and I thought it was a
good movie. Plus, the lego sets for that movie were
so good. I don't know if you saw them, but
like they made some good Bat movie.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I didn't really, I I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, well, there you go a little story time with
each there. Uh okay, soccerbroke cast got Harrison Ford, Karen Allen,
Alfred Molina. I didn't know he was in this movie, honestly,
couldn't remember that. Uh. Actually, so he plays the Tipo.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's his name, I think, I believe, which is the
what's his face? Which one is that?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I couldn't tell you, like I like, like, I like,
I couldn't tell you who was Alfred Molina because it's
not like it's not the guy at the school, Oh,
the guys at the school.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So would it be one of that? Would it be
that weird German dude the Nazi? No, no, no, no way,
I don't know. I have no clue.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He played the arc Yeah, he was the voice of God. Yeah. Yeah.
He was a Peruvian guy and along with the partner
Baranka and several porters helped guide American archaeologists India go
to the temple.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So that would have been the opening sequence.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Then uh, oh, like the guy on the plane.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
H No, not the guy in the plane, the guy
that gets killed in the Boulder chase scene.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, that dude's like, yeah, that's not that dude.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I don't know, Yeah, that's that dude.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He's it. Yeah, oh maybe I'm completely but you said
Temple of Doom said, I said, oh, okay, in the Temple,
and oh okay, So I figured if you're talking about
Temple of Doom he would he would have survived for
a sequel. But okay. Very interesting because I saw al
(06:44):
for Malina like in the credits at the start, and
I was like, who does he play? And I could
not figure out, for the life of me at who
Satipo was. I couldn't figure out any of that information.
So thank you. Well, it's just like I wanted to see,
like he's like a dude. I feel like you would
recognize you know what I mean, And I'm just I'm
(07:05):
not good at recognizing it. I feel like, what other
movies has he been in? No idea, does anyone know.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
He's go on? Producer Gary do your job.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We have a producer for reasons. But no, but here's
the thing. He does lots a Broadway. Doesn't he a performance?
He's like a singer.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I don't know. I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
If I if I propose a fact and I spike
the volleyball up, you know what I mean? Is that
what it's called? I serve the volleyball up?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yes, spiking is hitting it down.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, you have to fucking spike it, like if you
wouldn't mind just.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Once in a while. Well, but if I don't have
anything to spike it with, I'm just flopping around with
no arms. How am I supposed to strike.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Any something other than I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, but if I don't, what am I supposed to say?
I am not aware of that fact. I'm not aware
of the answer to that question.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's perfectly robotic.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Okayed by Steven Spielberg, created by George Lucas.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
George Lucas really is the man.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
He's he's one of the men.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, he's the man of the eighties.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I mean Steven Spielberg though, is so good.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, But like George Lucas and.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Spielberg like together, yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And then for John Williams in there.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
There's something fan fiction that like, oh boy.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
George Lucas and Steven Spielberg and amounts of money grossed
at the box office. It's it's literally like Elon Musk
levels of intensity.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That's not even true at all, though it's funny. If
you take all the amount of money they are films
of gross, stack them together, pably and tripled it, it's
half of what Elon Musk is not even like, are
you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like what?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Anyways? Uh, let's talk about let's just synopsis. I uh,
I keep backtracking and going back and forth because I
know you have a special delivery on the way.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I do have a special delivery on the way. And
I'm figuring since Gary decided he doesn't want to be
on the show today, we'll just hit to a quick break,
what and while I go and get get my special delivery,
and then I'll tell a joke. Sure, yeah, it'll be
it'll be a humor break. Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Raiders are the Lost Ark film synopsis. This is the aioverview,
so it's written very terribly, But let me just read
what the Aioverview says, epic tale in which an intrepid
archaeologist tries to beat a band of Nazis to unique
religious relic which is central to their plans for world domination,
battling against the snake phobia, and a vengeful ex girlfriend
(09:41):
which is not even true. Indiana Jones is in constant
peril making Hair's breadth escapes at every turn in this
celebration of the innocent adventure movies of an earlier era.
What a weird see.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
This is why I despise the AI overview thing.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh no, this was actually written by George Lucas says,
right here, take back everything I.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Said about George.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
No it it's so weird though, Like, what are the
avengeful girlfriend ex girl? I mean, she's mad at him
for like three seconds and she saves their lives and
they immediately go to kiss town.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
All in between this, there's a Nazi Monkey. It's just
a sake tile Like I don't I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It's basically like, I mean, it's a it's a pretty
classic plot. I mean, let's be honest, the whole plot of.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
The movie Monkey.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's well, but you know what I mean, like the
actual like story itself, isn't that complicated. It's an adventure movie.
You got a superhero fighting itinst the evil Nazis, and
you know, a girlfriend that he's trying to win over.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right, well, we know like our twelve basic plots, right yeah,
man versus nature, man versus plot, man versus Nazi monkeys
saluted man vers himself.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know it's wait, wait, wait, wait wait, Let's take
the monkey. You remember the monkey from Gladiator too? Oh yeah, yeah,
and him in Indiana Jones that much like the pet
of the Nazi dude.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, how does the monkey die again? He has like
a really dramatic day.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I can't even remember because it was so still explode
or something. It's something something funny.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I thought he exploded. But yeah, basically there's a Nazi monkey.
But we'll get there, and it's adorable. There's a lot
of I was thinking about that on the drive here.
There's a lot of monkeys in Indiana Jones movies, Like
which one is it where they eat the monkey brain?
That's that temple I can't even remember. It's gotta be
Temple Doom because I haven't like just around gets kidnapped.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
This is the Indiana. I haven't watched Indiana Jones in forever,
and this is the like this is the last one
that I watched, Like oh wow, because I mean, I
like them, but they're not like my favorite movie ever?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Is it the Last Crusade where he goes on the train.
I think that's how one. I don't think I like
the Last Crusade. I I like Candom of the Crystal
Skull better, sue me. I'm tired of people saying that's
a terrible Indiana Jones movie because I actually really enjoyed
that one. Sorry, I hate to say it like that one.
All of them are pretty good, though for different reasons.
But I definitely like the Temple of Doom monkey brain scene.
(12:10):
That one's pretty funny, cool, gross as a kid?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Uh okay, shall we go into a plot?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Sure, okay, take it away.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Take it away. We have Indiana Jones, right, He's going
through a temple. He's gonna find like an ancient artifact.
I forget what the people or tribe are called. I
was gonna say like some sort of like ancient Aztec
or something, but I.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I remember it. I read it because I I was
looking online and that that was some somebody's criticism was
that they misinterpreted a certain religion or a certain culture tribe.
So I read the name, but I don't recall what
the name was.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I think it starts with an AM.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Right, I was gonna say pee, but.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, so much. This is why we don't do live.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
This is why we don't do no.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But here's here's the thing I don't want to say.
It's it's an ancient tribe of people protecting a relic.
I got a special delivery here. What a dumb ring tone. Okay,
so he has a pizza and I'm alone now, so
(13:26):
let me keep going through the plot Basically Indiana Jones.
He goes through, He has a guide with him, a
bunch of people that are getting scared. He finds this
old temple and basically goes through, gets to the relic.
He does the infamous scene where like he he takes
like a bag of sand, He takes it out so
(13:47):
it's the same weight, and then he like swaps it
out right so that it like stays the same, and
then all of a sudden he's like, okay, he has it.
His dude with him is like, all right, well we
can leave now but then all of a sudden, the
pillar start's going down, big boulder falls from the ceiling
(14:09):
lands on the ground. Right, We're not going to go
through the logistics of this and how they got a
big boulder like that shaped and put up there, but whatever, Right,
So Indiana Jones starts running through the temple. He runs
through all like the arrow traps and pits, walls and
stuff like that, running away from this boulder and such
and and I guess the boulder might be a little
later too, right because also the whole the whole area
(14:32):
is collapsing, right, Like, the temple is self destructed essentially,
which is interesting, like how does the temple Like how
is the temple built to self destruct? Very weird? And
how is an a pressure plate c N T and
a pressure plate anyways, the bottom of at the bottom
of a shaft. Wow. Uh. So basically, Indiana Jones partner
(14:58):
is like, oh, yeah, throw me the idol and I'll
like make sure that you're safe. And Indiana Jones is like,
all right, sure, So I tossed them in the idol.
The guy's like, ah, yeah, I've been betraying you one
more time. And he's like, uh, anyways, Indiana Jones decides
to jump this like six foot long gap and he
basically slides under the doorway, grabs his whip and pulls
(15:21):
it back under and looks at the dude. The dude's
been killed and another one of those traps boulder comes
and he Jones runs from the boulder. He gets out,
he's safe. But now there's some French archaeologist dude. And
this dude's like, oh, I go you O. I don't know,
I'm going to eat a bag. Yeah he's French, right, Yeah,
I think he's French and he was either a Nazi
(15:43):
or French, but he's French. A French Nazi.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Hey, those existed in World War two. Yeah, even though
it's set slightly before World War Two. It's like thirty six.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Thirty one, nineteen thirty one, which again I'm gonna be
honest last night. So like there's like the one scene
in the one movie is the Last Crusade where he
meets Hitler anyways, and he has his dad and whatnot. Anyways,
(16:13):
I kind of always thought the Indiana Jones movies took
place in like the forties, not like the early thirties.
Like I like, yeah, I always thought they were like
forties because because he met Hitler, right, not that's really hot,
it's disgusting. So anyways, I was kind of surprised to
(16:35):
hear it was thirty one because I was like, oh,
I never even.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Really are you sure it's thirty one? I thought this
one was thirty six.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I think it's thirty one. I mean, you want me
to look it up? Please, I can look it up.
What years Indiana Jones also Domino's please sponsor us great pizza.
We went on a whole rant about it last time.
Good rant rant sounds bad. Oh it's nineteen thirty six. Yeah, yeah,
(17:04):
I'm sorry. It is nineteen thirty six, with uh Temple
of Doom in nineteen thirty five and The Last Crusade
in nineteen thirty eight and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
nineteen fifty seven. So yeah, pretty interesting. I like the
(17:24):
period piece. I think it's I think it's cool. I
think it's nice. Uh thirty six. Hey, it's just for me.
It feels old, like it's tough for me because I've
always just kind of felt like, in the back of
my mind like it felt always a bit more modern
than the times actually sat to it, you know what
I mean. It's just it's just to me, it doesn't
(17:46):
necessarily feel like it's nineteen thirty or maybe I just
like think in my mind nineteen thirty is way crazier
than what I like, like crazy old. But like you
know what I mean, it feels like, if anything, it
feels like a more modern thirties.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
You know what, you know what I mean, Like, Nope,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Do you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
No, I mean, I understand the words you're saying, but
I don't. I don't. I don't feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, well to me, it definitely feels a little bit
more modern in that in that sense. But Hi, we're live,
We're live, We're live. We have a special guest at
the studio today.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Brando's currently caught in the door cover.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh and he went to Talk Time. Anyways, Tuesday, Brandow
can come say hi and tell us what he thinks
about Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark.
You want to come back here? Oh sure, I'm just great.
I was coming here. I haven't washed it in two
decades because I'm old, and it was fine. And hello,
(18:56):
that's Branda.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Thank you for the c CEO podcast and our Twitch
stream different now at twitch, dot tv, slash different av Media.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Are we streaming on twitch or now?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
We will be in a few minutes. This is a
very meandering episode. We need to we need to keep
it moving. I feel like we don't have a lot
to talk about anyways. Indiana Jones goes through. He gets
the idol kidnapped.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Who who so sad French guy takes it. I guess
I never really talked about it for the rest of
the movie. Hey kind of goes away. Anyways, he misses
the idol, he gets confronted by his like boss at
like you know whatever, like way he teaches his university,
the university, and he's like, yeah, so you see you
had it, but you didn't have it whatever. And it
seems like one of those things where it's like, oh,
(19:43):
you keep doing this like not getting the idols, but
like but it actually turns out he's actually just kind
of like super supportive and he's like, oh, whatever, it happens.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I thought that was a weird thing too. Yeah, like
when you first meet the guy, you expect him to
be kind of like the condescending boss, like giving him
hard quotas and everything.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So you're saying you had it, but then you lost it, right,
So you immediately think he's a bad ye like he's
gonna be like.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But then, like you said, no, he ends up being
like a good friend supporter.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And he comes to his house and he's he's packing.
He's like, hey, by the way, super excited. I would
have been like super excited to do this and buy youth,
like this is gonna be great for you. And you're like, oh,
this is the same dude who just said like you know,
you know what I mean. Anyways, so so he goes to,
uh where does he He goes to uh not Korea,
(20:31):
but it's in Tibet. Yeah, well, which, like which country
is that though? Tibet yeap Oh, Tibet's a country, but
it's an Asian country.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, it's kind of like there. It's near the Alps,
kind of like in my but you're China an.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Idiot, Okay, we go perfect. Anyways, See I thought he
went to like Korea or something, so that's that's that's
what I do. There was a lot of snow. It's like, oh,
I didn't know it's known so much in North Korea.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Careful.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So so I don't even think people who live in
North Korea knows it snows in North Korea. Okay, you're
gonna get us canceled or deported in North Korea.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
They're not going to see this, but the government will.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, I Kim, so this is flattering, like if any
politician were to watch yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I mean, hey, come on, no politics, no religion, let's
keep going.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
This is Indiana Jones. It's based on politics and religion.
That's a whole Actually it's based on history and science.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But you never know, and religion.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Okay, So movie continues goes on. Basically, he meets his
ex girlfriend. They're looking for like he's looking for this
medallion that's supposed to be attached to a weird stick
thing that one put in a little temple or like shrine.
Leads to the location of the Arc of the Covenant. Basically,
the Nazis are looking for the Arc of the Covenant
(22:05):
because Hitler's like, this will make the ill be invincible.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's a French accent, not a German accident, but like, no,
how do you do? How do you? But that is
another historical thing. The Germans were very much into art
and stealing art and like that was a huge part
of the Nazi rule.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Well they got Army invincible. I finally got the accent.
Took a couple of seconds in my head. So gemans, Uh, basically,
Nazis are looking for this, some US agents or like
you know, Indiana Jones, we need you to go steal
this because, uh, it's easier to have a random archaeologist
(22:45):
with no ties to the government just shot and killed
and fail his mission than it is to have a
bunch of like Seal Teams six going.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And didn't exist at this point. In fact, there was
basically no special forces at this point. Yeah in history.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, well, Indiana Jones was his own special force.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
He was.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And uh, basically he goes, he meets his girlfriend. His
girlfriend's like all right, his ex girlfriend, She slaps him,
tells him he's an idiot. But then the Nazis come
because they know Indiana Jones is also looking for this,
so they're gonna try and kill him, which okay.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And well, and they know that she has the what's
McCall thing, that he's the medallion that he's.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, like little key to it. Yeah, so
Indiana Jones, he basically like saves her from all the
Nazis kills like thirteen of them. I forgot how violent,
you know, honestly, I couldn't actually even remember like anyone
really dying Indiana Jones movies, you know what I mean,
other than like falling into lava or something. And then
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it just shows how long it's been since I watched
it because there's so much blood. There's a lot of
blood and people dying and getting thrown off cliffs and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Actually, some of those corpses are also pretty graphic in
some of those scenes.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know, they used cayenne pepper instead of blood in
the desert because it was like easier to transport and cleaner,
and so a lot of the stunt guys kept getting
burns in their eyes because they were throwing cayenne pepper
in their faces as like like blood effects. Yeah, that's
a fun little fact out. Yeah, just cheaper, easier to
carry it. Sucks to have coagulated blood in the desert,
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I guess, so cayenne pepper was what they decided to
go with because I feel like there was we kick
up red dust.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I feel like there's a better option than that. There
has to be.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, it's called CG I know. Yeah, but it just
goes to the respect I have for some coordinators really
just like hey, good for you guys and your healthcare provider.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
More in particular the stunt men or the stunt people
like alcohol them because yeah, they're the ones actually doing it.
The stunt coordinators are the are the people designing it.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Stunt coordinators, Yeah, people who do stunts. People do stunt people. So,
Indiana Joe, we can kind of fast forward some stuff.
We meet the Nazi Monkey. Basically, all the people like,
so where do they go next?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Like they go to that town. We don't I don't
know if they actually say what town is ca Cairo.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Cairo, Carl Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah is it Cairo?
I believe so I believe. So yeah, Like they go
so they go to Africa. Yeah, And and essentially a
bunch of people are trying to kill Indiana Jones because
they all know Indiana Jones is there to be like
a menace. And essentially, also here's the thing they do
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this movie thing in all the Enna Jones movies where
they show like there's like one hundred people watching Indiana
Jones at all times and seeing what he's gonna do
and stuff like that, and multiple times someone is holding
a gun behind him. They have about seven hundred thousand
opportunities to shoot him in the face and like a
secluded area, but then they wait until there's like one
hundred people around to pull out the gun. I don't
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like if I was an assassin. What do you think
makes more sense? Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Exactly what you mean.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Do I wait for forty people to be watching and make
it a spectacle so they think it's some kind of
cool gladiator fight? Or do I shoot him in the
alleyway when he's alone? Huh, just a little bit of
a notice anyways. So Indiana Jones basically finds one of
the locations where he can put like the stick in
the hole and stuff like that, but he can't really
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get to it because all the Nazis are around it. Meanwhile,
a bunch of people are still trying to kill him.
His girlfriend basically gets blown up or ex girlfriend whatever.
They're still kind of in love a little bit like that, Marian.
So she goes bye bye for a bit. She's not
actually dead, Yeah do you think she is? Yeah? Monkey dies,
Nazi monkey dies and we're kind of like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I actually when they did that, the way they did that,
I thought it was it was it was quite good.
Where it's like you expect him to just find her,
but she he doesn't, and you're like, oh shit, actually
killed her. Yeah, like then no, they didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They didn't kill her. He doesn't just find her later
in a tent, just saying there, just doing her thing.
So funny enough, we keep we keep going. Indiana Jones
finds the location of the arc and it's in the
middle of the dig site wherel on the Nazi starts
searching for it or sorry, it's.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
A little it's a little on the side, I like that.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
But the temple is peeking out of the ground exactly
where it is. So so after after supposedly months of
their operation digging here and no one found it, Like,
you know, commander, we have an exposed temple thirty feet
to the left of us. Should we dig there? No, nine,
we will dig that. We will dig. It's just like
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just like just like but but sir, like we can
see a templeman that if not odds okay. So Indiana
Jones comes and within six hours of him being there,
he immediately.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Finds the arc because he's not an idiot.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, he finds Mariam. Is it Marianne or marian I
think it's marian marian whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It is his girlfriend who's not his girlfriend, but he
wants to him to be his girlfriend or wants her
to be his girlfriend. But by the end she is
his girlfriend. Yes, that's much simpler. Yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Basically he finds her, but she tells her like, hey, listen,
I'm gonna have to go out to the ark and
you're gonna stay here and then we'll come back for
you once I have the arc.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
She's like, no, you're so mean.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Interesting And at first I was like, lady, that's actually
a great plan. It's perfect because they'll be looking for you.
That's like a great plan. But then you realize the
arc is six probably like one hundred pounds made a
pure gold, and it's the size of a casket, and
you're like, wait, hold on, maybe bruh, you probably could
have freed her actually first, And then yeah, got the
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arc because because what and again, we were digging there anyways,
why would they think to search for her there because
it's just not their cam.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But but also it's like are you not going to
be like, you know, chivalrous and you know, especially at
this time, that would have been like using your girlfriend
as bait. Like true, that's like not very historically accurate
in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Uh, I don't think women in the thirties were treated
as good as they are.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Now though, Yes and no, But there's there's difference between.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think, you know what I mean. I think historically
actually maybe some women were treated worse like witches.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, but she's not a witch, that's my point.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Ye, but the Nazis don't know that. Yeah, but I
think she should have just saved her, that's my point. Yeah,
it should have been this chivalrous thing to do. But
I don't think there's history oracle enough evidence to be like, yeah,
this dude would have read her.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think, so, do you think so? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Maybe maybe I'm like, I think so incorrect. But also,
Indiana Jones is a for someone who's like consistently a loner,
and pretty much all the movies he does have a
different girlfriend and every single one of them, so that's
a little weird. And then he has a kid with
Shyla buff with his kid, and essentially, uhrogac it's a.
(30:30):
It's a big thing, right, it's.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Really really progressive all of a sudden. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Uh, he finds the arc. It's in a room with snakes,
filled with pythons and other things. Pythons I think were
the only really dangerous ones. Even the cobras, I think
we're like venomized. But the assistant director, David Tomblin, was
bitten by a python.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Those were all real snakes. Yeah, did they burn real snakes?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
No clue. Uh. He was bit on the arm and
it went let go. So basically what he had was
one of the production assistants or someone from catery someone
somewhere started whipping the snake from the tail that I
would let go and fall down. And so yeah, so
as I'm concerned that was the only person who was
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bit by a snake. But yeah, I kind of grabbed
on it wouldn't let go.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
It was an ad. It's fine. Nobody cares about ads.
The first assistant director. He can replace them, no problem.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah whatever. There's also the famous swordsman scene in there.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Oh I love that scene. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
The guy pulls out a sword. He's going to go to town, Indiana.
Jones is gonna take the whip and go watch and
pull the sword out of his hand. That's what they
had practiced. Indiana Jones had food poisoning, kind of failed
to do it like five six times, and then he
just said to Steven Spielberg, I just shoot him. And
Steven Spielberg was okay with it, and so basically.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Didn't he just do it?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
From what I read on IMDb, he asked Sielberg, Uh,
and I don't think I think he wouldn't have just
done it because the crowd has such a perfect reaction
of running away too and like the guys falling down right, So, yeah,
Indiana Jones, he goes, shoots him, puts the gun away.
Another Indiana Jones kill like he's racking them up like
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he's Ted Bundy, and and yeah, he just kills another dude.
Next little thing is so they get the arc whatever,
But the Nazis have basically found where he's hiding essentially,
and he steal the ARC from him, leave him with Marion. Basically,
they're gonna run away. He's gonna die in the snake pit.
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This is my biggest problem with the whole film, because
clearly they're trapped in this sacred temple right where the
Ark of the Covenant was. Right, thank goodness, there's a
secret hidden wall that leads perfectly to the outside world.
And they don't have to do any digging whatsoever. They
perfectly just kick out a rock and they're immediately back
in the Nazi dig site. So again, oh, sir, should
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we should we dig there where that exposed rock is?
That is not that is not Awk of the Covenant
tie no, like like it's just like, oh my god, man,
like no one thought to like look there, like.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It's a movie, right, movie, it's a movie. So basically,
Indiana Jones escapes the Nazis see him and and basically
he's trying to get like the Arc of the Covenant
off of his plane because the plane's gonna take it away.
So he goes like stop the plane, and Marian gets
in it and she comes like a gunner. She starts
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blowing up the Nazi camp. A big old Nazi dude
comes and fights Indiana Jones, but he gets crushed by
a propeller in another insanely bloody gross scene that like
oh my gosh, like I didn't even maybe my dad
just covered my eyes at certain parts and that's why,
like I must have been like fifteen of My dad
was just like you can't see this. Uh no, So
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he dies, one more, one more guy dies, saying kill
counts in this film.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I'm sure somebody's went through and put it together.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, And and essentially they blow up the plane and
then now the Nazis are gonna take it on a
convoy of trucks. They're gonna go take it away, and
essentially Indiana Jones stops the convoy of trucks, he gets
the Arc, puts the ARC on a boat, him and
Marion sail off to the sunset the end. Or so
(34:39):
we think this is where the pacing gets a little weird,
because you have like a beautiful nd named Indiana Jones.
They're they're they're taking the ARC at the Covenant, they
have it, they're taking it to the States for examination.
They have a perfect scene r Indiana Jones and Marion
fall asleep together and she's like healing his wounds and
he's like, you know, I'm an adventurer or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Sixty nine Yeah, how many of those are Indiana Jones?
Like how many did he kill? Producer Brando?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, so sixty nine people die and then Marian and
Indiana Jones sixty nine and then basically okay, so there's
like it's like a good ending where they're all asleep
on the boat this side the moon goes die again
watch and I think there's yeah, Like, honestly, I think
it would have been good to end there, because the
pacing just feels so weird after because now it's like
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we put an hour long plot down into ten minutes,
like yes, and so that's my biggest problem with this
film is like it feels like it should end there.
And I like the last few scenes. I think they're good,
but it's just like the movie should have ended there
or cut or wiped whatever to the last scene where
they're talking with the guys and they're like, you know,
we can't tell you where the ARC is, but we're
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putting into safe keeping for a scientist, right, But no,
and instead a German U boat basically submarine comes threatens
to blow up the ship unless they give up Indiana
Jones and like the arc and stuff like that. Can't
find Indiana Jones, so they get Marion. Then Indiana Jones
swims onto the submarine and gets in and boards the
submarine and then basically he hides the submarine, he goes
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to the secret German naval base on this island, and
then he escapes there, kills some Nazis, gets in a
Nazi uniform. Then he basically goes and finds Marion and
frees her, and then they kidnap him again. And now
they're kidnapped again, and they're gonna be forced to watch
them open the Ark of the Covenant because they want
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to open it to see if it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
The largest truck fight, the whole truck chase scene.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Oh yeah, there's another chasing And I don't I'm not
saying that that's like a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's a cool scene. It's a really cool scene. Right now.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I just think at this point the movie should be
over just because it had a great ending. I don't
think we need any of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
You're an hour and a half.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
It's just like, be honest, this whole stuff should have
been stretched out a bit more. It feels half baked
in comparison.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, it's like the plot, like you say, the pacing
just accelerates tenfold when you get to that ship scene.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, like all of a sudden, it's like done and
then it goes done and not done done, and know
that's like that's like, yeah, great score.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
By the way, Yeah, it's gonna be stuck in my
head for the rest of today.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
So basically, they want to open up the arc because
they want to make sure that Hitler has exactly what
he needs, and you know, they don't make an embarrassment
to themselves, so they open it. But then God is
like uh uh uh, and he kills everyone that isn't
basically looking or he's sorry, he kills everyone that's looking
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at like the light coming through basically the Covenant, and
and then the lid snaps back on and everyone's dead
in the room except for Indiana Jones and Marion because
they weren't looking at the light. Uh. You know, it's
it's very interesting that Indiana Joe, it's new not to
look at the light in a way, because in all
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the depictions of the Covenant that they show in the movie,
people are looking at the light and nothing's happening to them.
Good point see, And and they think the Covenant's gonna
make them immortal. So we're going on the logic that
this is gonna make Nazis invincible. And in all the
depictions of art and drawing that they show in this
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movie are people looking at the arc being like yeah.
But in this end, Indiana Jones is like he uses
that information. He's like, let me close my eyes, right,
so so very interesting, and I guess it works, and
it works to his benefit as as it does usually,
And and they take the arc and the escape. They
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don't really show the escape, I guess, but they basically
show them getting back to the States. The US government's like, hey,
by the way, great work, we'll pay you, but a
team of researchers will take it from here. And then
they show that the arc gets put on a crate
and put into a big storage for stillity and stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
That scene reminds me of a TV show called Warehouse thirteen, Okay,
which I highly recommend people check out because it is
it's really fun. Basically, it's like this warehouse that stores
artifacts like that, artifacts and like abnormal supernatural things, and
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then they have like a team that like tracks things
down if they get stolen and stuff like that. It's
a really good show Warehouse thirteen. Check it out.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I see really good opportunities for a prequel and a sequel.
Super easy to name them Warehouse eleven, where else twelve? Yeah. Yeah, anyways,
let that's like the end of the movie. So that's
my biggest complaint. It's just like I feel like the
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movie should end on the boat. It just like that
for it to end on the boat, especially since like
we get into more supernatural stuff and I feel like
Indiana Jones gets captured twice again and escapes instantly, and
it's just like it's like, okay, like what are we doing?
Like yeah, and and that one of the like Nazis
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decided to not look at the Covenant as it was
exploding or.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, there's just a lot of plot holes and stuff
like that that just didn't work.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I feel like overall, the plot is kind of like,
how do I put this?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
It?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
The point of this movie is to make stunt action sequences,
and they do it spectacularly, and they build off and yes,
it's a it's it's really really well done, and but
I feel like the plot suffers a little bit in
a way where it's kind of simple and and and
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at times a little bit like you say, plot hole.
There's a couple of things, and it's not not bad
by any means at all, but I just feel like
it could be done better in certain areas.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
The word that comes to minds for me isn't isn't
necessarily simple, It's convenient.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Convenient. Yeah, that's a much better description. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I think there's a large majority of things that are
just oh, that's convenient. That's convenient, And after a while,
convenient can turn into many different things. Sometimes it's classic comedy,
other times it's what are we doing guys? Yeah, And
I feel like part of the times where these movies
get older charms comes from the comedy side, and I
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just unfortunately, I feel like when it comes to the
patent at the end, it turns into it turns into oh,
this is maybe convenient for the wrong reasons. But again,
I think it's a great movie. I love it. It's
just unfortunate that like, instead of making it like an
epic mystery, it's it's still epic, but it's more like
it's epically convenient, Like it's epically laid out for.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Him, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
So like instead of making it feel like Indiana Jones
is like some master archaeologist detective, like detective, sometimes it
feels like this guy is just really lucky.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
I think that too, Like you know, when you when
you and he is lucky.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Of course that's part of his character, but it's just
like it's just like I feel like it's at the
detriment of maybe some importance.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I feel like there's also more opportunity to show him
off as being kind of like this almost superheroish figure,
you know, and showing off some of his his skills
and whatnot. And I feel like, like you say, it's
so convenient, sometimes they miss that. It's like he's just
kind of wandering through this plot without having to do
a lot.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I think part of the lure of Indiana Jones is
he's a real person. He's he's a teacher, he's an archaeologist,
he's educated, and and he does it for the love
of the craft. So he is human in a way,
not a superhero. But I agree with you on that
same point though, that like it just feels like sometimes
like it's it's meandering a nooy you know, you know
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what I mean.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, the plot very much meanders until that ending sequence,
like you said, where it just speeds up.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
But yeah, meandering, And so it's like it's like you
want that balance of him being lucky and cool, but
you also want him to like be able to deduce
it sometimes. And I feel like the other movies do
a bit of a better job, where he reads like
Latin and stuff or like things on the walls of
the cave determine where to go next. But you know,
I feel like a lot of this movie is him
just kind of like going places, and there's not a
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lot of explanation of why he's there till like the
very end of the scene and then like he'll find
the arc or something like that. And it's exactly in
the middle of where a hundred other people looked, and
for some reason, he was just the only one who thought,
what if I opened this piece of stone. It's just
kind of like, oh, like you mean to tell me that,
Like there's hundreds of people here that are super determined
to get it, and this guy came in and within
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thirty minutes he knew exactly where it was. It's just
like very interesting, right, Yeah, No, obviously, it's part of
the charm. It's part of the creative things. It works
for some people, doesn't work for others. For me, it
works for them most of the time. It's just like
I do feel like a little bumped down by an occasion.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
And I think, honestly, like we always talk about what's
the point of this movie, and I think this movie
it's to have a fun action adventure story. And I
think they hit that.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
They hit that right, and even the score does a
good enough job to where like it's like, how do it?
Like I do magic tricks for my cousin, and they're
really shitty magic tricks, so they're not even magic tricks. Like, Okay,
Sunday night. What I did is I got two empty
containers of dice and I put I got her to
put one. I put a random dice in one and
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hit it behind my back and I told her, okay,
take any dice you want and put it in this.
I'll shake it around and come up with a different dice.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
So all I did was she put it in. I
going like shut and I pulled out the other dice
and she looked at it and gasped. I went, oh, magic,
And even that would heightened the moment for her because
she went magic. Right. It wasn't even as much as
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a trick, but as much as selling the trick. Music
does a good job for sure, selling the trick because
the music, it's like Indiana Jones like when you look
at it at face value, like it's a silent film. Okay, yeah, really,
there's six hundred people here who decided not to open
this ball the last nine thousand years that's been peeking
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out of the sand, despite hundreds of archaeologists being there
who would all like to find some majestic artifact. Indiana
Jones comes and he's like, let's go through here, right exactly.
So he goes through and that selfie like, oh that's dumb.
But the music's like you're like, oh cool.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
That The thing is that that motif like that that
Indiana Jones motif or whatever, like they use that as
well to like help dictate the story, like anytime he's
had just a triumphant moment, it like programs your brain
like Okay, this is a triumph Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
And so yeah, it's it's it's not so much the trick,
it's selling it. And that's kind of what I that's
kind of like the analogy I'll use.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, I think that's a good way of describing it.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
To explain, like, hey, sometimes that that movie, even if
the things itself aren't that cool at least there are
certain elements that bring it together, like cool filmmaking and
acting and over the top action. And some of the
editing is so sloppy with the punches so many times
I was chuckling to myself because you can see clearly
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the punch doesn't hit or something.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
And like just even like looking at how the fight
choreography has improved, Like the way he punches in these movies,
like I can't even replicate. It's just it's such a
weird punching.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Every punch goes from back here.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
And it's just it's such a weird motion.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
He starts back here for every punch he goes right now.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, and it's such a weird motion. And then like
you look at modern movies, it's a lot more like
accurate and and like and and actual you know punching
motion and yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, yeah, lots of kicks and stuff like that. But
I guess also kind of shows that Indiana Jones isn't
much of like a trained fighter. He's more of like, uh,
he's also kind of a bumbler in a way, right,
because he's kind of like he just tackles people and
like charges on him stuff and it just kind of
works out for him.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
So element is I think we're kind of used to
seeing every character being like John Wick being able to
solo like an entire group of armed guons, but but
Indiana Jones is more of like a charge in and
take one out.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
And then that's a very a very good point, like.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
You can't fight two people at once, you know what
I mean. That's not his character, but it is interesting
because like people like, oh, well it was different times
back then and stuff like that, but it was like, no,
just the editing was kind of sloppy in some of
those fight scenes because it's like.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Sometimes the camera angles and stuff too aren't aren't optimal, but.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
It's because it's not ironed out, right, Like it's just
like some of those things. It's like, I don't think
it needed to be because I looked at it and
I was like, oh, that's funny, but it didn't take
away from them, like how much I enjoyed the movie, right,
But it was a little funny, right whatever. You can
see the punched and hit big freakin' deal if you
weren't looking as close as I was, And it really
probably doesn't even matter. But I think now as the days,
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we're like we're trained as an audience that like we
want perfection, right, so much perfection that if we see
that in a movie today, like if we saw that
in a Star Wars movie, well, hold on a second,
why was it okay in nineteen seventy But it's not
okay now? And it's like, oh, well, there's more technology
and stuff and it should be more ironed out your perfection.
But it's like, does it really take away? No, it
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really doesn't. So it's funny to me.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
I think, well, I think it does depending on on
on who you are, like you or I who was
raised with modern movies. I mean we watched those older
movies too, but like we grew up with with modern
movies seeing that, and when I both noticed that, we
notice like, oh that looks interesting. But if that was
the only movie or only style of movie fighting that
(49:08):
you had seen. Let's say you know, you're ten in
nineteen eighty and you're watching this movie and like, oh
my god, this is so cool, you know whatever, whatever,
but that's the only movie fighting. I bet you didn't
even notice it. I bet you that was just like
fight a punch, right, and so I feel like it's
not that it takes away, it's just we're just not
used to it and so we notice it more.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
But here's the thing. If that happened in john Wick,
where you could see John one of John Wicks punch
or three of them didn't land, we'd be outraged. You'd
be like, I can't believe Connu Reeves would allow us
to happen. And oh my god, it's so sloppy. I
can't believe what Hollywood's going to. But in all the
India Jones movies, no, the punch is connected. You can
see they don't connect. So why do we love it?
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:49):
And it's like it's like, Okay, sure it's classic, it's beloved,
but I think it's it's not even that I feel like,
truthly what it is. It's just like it actually doesn't
even matter that much. It's the thought and the effort
and the creativity that matters. And the imagination. That's what
all of Steven Spielberg movies are about, is imagination and adventure.
(50:10):
And the punch not landing isn't the pivotal piece into
making it a good movie. Sure it's an extra detail.
Sure it's maybe something that looks a little funny. But
in all these movies that we're seeing and we're like,
that's sloppy because it does that. It's like, that's not
the reason it ruined the film for you. It's because
the imagination wasn't there. And that's part of having a
(50:31):
good movie is something where people want to imagine something
beyond surface level whatever, right, And I think I think
that's why it's acceptable. Right whatever, let's talk about how
the film was made, and I think, sorry, you do
(50:53):
you have something to say? Nope? Okay, okay. So George
Lucas likes to skipped down when a movie comes out.
He looks going on a vacation because there's a lot
of chaos when when the box office opened, so he
released a new hope. He went on a trip to
Hawaii where he met Steven Spielberg. So this is opening
(51:14):
weekend again. This is on IMDb on the official Trivia
of the film page, so you can check it out there.
He goes to Steven Spielberg hangout. They're building a sand
castle together apparently, and they're talking about Steven Spielberg directing
one of the James Bond movies and George Lucas says,
I have a better idea. He explains to him the
(51:35):
plot of Indiana Jones and like the story, and basically
Steven Spielberger says, yeah, he's down. And so this is
opening weekend of A New Hope. And they didn't talk
about it until after the first few days or whatever,
because George Lucas was like super concerned, like it was
all the only thing on his mind. But then he
really realized that A New Hope was making money, he
(51:57):
was like, okay, you can kind of relax on his vacation.
So yeah, then he tells Steven Spielberg basically what's up.
And they made a sand castle together, apparently, and and
he said, yeah, making any Yeah. I think the music's good,
it's funny. It's over the top pacing at the end.
I think it should just end at the boat. Honestly,
(52:18):
I don't even think we needed the ending those ending scenes.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
I agree with all that.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, yeah, is that it?
Speaker 1 (52:25):
That's all I got?
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Wow, Okay, well should we rate it and get out?
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Let's do it seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Seven and a half agree, seven and a half.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Nia Jones Ridges of the Lost Dark. You just watched
the Viewing Room live and I actually don't even know
how we end this episode.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
You know what, you just keep talking and doing the outro. Cool.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Thanks to Coliseum Presents for putting on epic cinema events.
We watched this at the Rock Sy It was an
incredible time, ran into some friends and coworkers and yeah,
it was great. Thank you so much. We do have
an Instagram at the view in your underscore and we
look forward to watching our next episode next week. If
you have any suggestions, concerns, or comments, leave them down below.
We'll see you next time.
And now time for the viewing Room with Adam and Eton.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to the UNI Room, where we talk about films
new and old, local and global. This time we're live,
and I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Said, and this time you don't have work.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, that's true. That's we'll see, actually see if I
get a call. Okay. They were talking about Indiana Jones
and the Raiders of the Lost Arc and we're doing
it live. And keep asking, oh, wow, Ethan, you're doing
this live because you love it so much, and the
answer is yes, yes. The answer is also, we didn't
(00:55):
record itis this week, so we're going live.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah. We do that quite frequently, and the studio is
getting a lot busier. We've we've got a lot of
stuff happening in the studio and so sometimes it's harder
to find time that works for both of us and
the studio. We're both very busy people and the studio
is a busy place, and it's it's difficult.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But yeah, pretty quick, we're going to be recording our
parts separately. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. I don't know how
it's gonna work, but it'll be a fun show. Indiana
Jones Raiders of the Lost Arc was released on June first,
nineteen eighty one. Notable thing that happened today and I'm
gonna today or that day. Okay, bear with me on
(01:34):
the pronunciation. Here o boy, the only candidate in the
presidential election. Okay, Hassan Guled Apadon won the Jibouti election,
which is an East African country. He's the only candidate,
you know what. Good for him he won. He was
the only candidate.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Good for him.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Pretty like interesting to you it apparently, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
He only is this one of those situations where it's
like the only cand it like you know, as in
they call it a democratic party or a democratic country,
but if if you don't vote for that one person,
then you'd magically disappear in the middle of the night. Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I didn't do a ton of research on this. I
was mainly focused on India Jones, as you should as
I didn't get the vibe that it was like a
dictatorship because it wasn't like he ruled for thirty years
kind of yeah, right, like it it seemed like he
had like a like a reasonable term like probably like
eight ten years something like that, and then like like
(02:29):
nothing crazy. Uh, he just was the only candidate and
I think, you know, probably developing in that that time frame, right, and.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, who else good for him?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Good for him? Hopefully was good for everyone else. Yeah,
that's how I should phrase that. Yeah, Jones a budget
of twenty million USD not bad.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yep, especially for the time.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, like reasonable size budget, and it grossed three hundred
and fifty four million dollars, making it the highest grossing
film of nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think Superman two also came out that year. That
was a high contender.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
In so many Superman movies, it's impossible to keep them
all straight.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I've seen. I've definitely seen every single Superman movie.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Ah, but if I've seen those ones from like the
fifties or it was a TV show.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, like the one where he you when he flies
up and spins the earth around.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I can't know, but like I'm talking like it's like
an old black and white one from like the fifties,
and I can't remember what his name was, but anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Uh, Gary Ruster?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Gary?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Which which one was the one where he spins the
earth around? Is that Superman two?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's three?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, I've seen I've seen all of those ones and
when people ask me what's my favorite Superman, I actually
just say probably for me, Batman be Superman. And I
know that's just not even a great movie and it
has some really terrible dialogue and it's actually not that
good at all.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But I actually I got to hear this is just
a vation.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I actually had a really good time in the theater.
It was actually like one of the last movies I
saw with my grandpa. Oh okay, that makes sense, and
my aunt was there. It's the only time I've ever
gone to a movie theater is my aunt as well.
And they played the movie in like the first eight
minutes there was no sound, so they had to restart
the whole movie and yeah, no, So that was definitely
(04:23):
like like yeah, good memory in the theaters for that
because it's just like so random and weird and you
saw Scotia Bank downtown and like, yeah, it was it
was fun.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It was good.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I had a good time. And then like I think
when you're younger too and you're having a good time
with the theater, I think you're less focused on maybe
the the artistical development of bad Man to be Superman,
and you've just become focused on oh hell yeah, Man, Superheroes, right, yeah,
and I think eleven year old me just really messed
(04:52):
with Superman, right and and I thought it was a
good movie. Plus, the lego sets for that movie were
so good. I don't know if you saw them, but
like they made some good Bat movie.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I didn't really, I I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, well, there you go a little story time with
each there. Uh okay, soccerbroke cast got Harrison Ford, Karen Allen,
Alfred Molina. I didn't know he was in this movie, honestly,
couldn't remember that. Uh. Actually, so he plays the Tipo.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's his name, I think, I believe, which is the
what's his face? Which one is that?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I couldn't tell you, like I like, like, I like,
I couldn't tell you who was Alfred Molina because it's
not like it's not the guy at the school, Oh,
the guys at the school.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So would it be one of that? Would it be
that weird German dude the Nazi? No, no, no, no way,
I don't know. I have no clue.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He played the arc Yeah, he was the voice of God. Yeah. Yeah.
He was a Peruvian guy and along with the partner
Baranka and several porters helped guide American archaeologists India go
to the temple.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So that would have been the opening sequence.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Then uh, oh, like the guy on the plane.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
H No, not the guy in the plane, the guy
that gets killed in the Boulder chase scene.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, that dude's like, yeah, that's not that dude.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I don't know, Yeah, that's that dude.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He's it. Yeah, oh maybe I'm completely but you said
Temple of Doom said, I said, oh, okay, in the Temple,
and oh okay, So I figured if you're talking about
Temple of Doom he would he would have survived for
a sequel. But okay. Very interesting because I saw al
(06:44):
for Malina like in the credits at the start, and
I was like, who does he play? And I could
not figure out, for the life of me at who
Satipo was. I couldn't figure out any of that information.
So thank you. Well, it's just like I wanted to see,
like he's like a dude. I feel like you would
recognize you know what I mean, And I'm just I'm
(07:05):
not good at recognizing it. I feel like, what other
movies has he been in? No idea, does anyone know.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
He's go on? Producer Gary do your job.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We have a producer for reasons. But no, but here's
the thing. He does lots a Broadway. Doesn't he a performance?
He's like a singer.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I don't know. I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
If I if I propose a fact and I spike
the volleyball up, you know what I mean? Is that
what it's called? I serve the volleyball up?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yes, spiking is hitting it down.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, you have to fucking spike it, like if you
wouldn't mind just.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Once in a while. Well, but if I don't have
anything to spike it with, I'm just flopping around with
no arms. How am I supposed to strike.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Any something other than I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, but if I don't, what am I supposed to say?
I am not aware of that fact. I'm not aware
of the answer to that question.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's perfectly robotic.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Okayed by Steven Spielberg, created by George Lucas.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
George Lucas really is the man.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
He's he's one of the men.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, he's the man of the eighties.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I mean Steven Spielberg though, is so good.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, But like George Lucas and.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Spielberg like together, yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And then for John Williams in there.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
There's something fan fiction that like, oh boy.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
George Lucas and Steven Spielberg and amounts of money grossed
at the box office. It's it's literally like Elon Musk
levels of intensity.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That's not even true at all, though it's funny. If
you take all the amount of money they are films
of gross, stack them together, pably and tripled it, it's
half of what Elon Musk is not even like, are
you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like what?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Anyways? Uh, let's talk about let's just synopsis. I uh,
I keep backtracking and going back and forth because I
know you have a special delivery on the way.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I do have a special delivery on the way. And
I'm figuring since Gary decided he doesn't want to be
on the show today, we'll just hit to a quick break,
what and while I go and get get my special delivery,
and then I'll tell a joke. Sure, yeah, it'll be
it'll be a humor break. Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Raiders are the Lost Ark film synopsis. This is the aioverview,
so it's written very terribly, But let me just read
what the Aioverview says, epic tale in which an intrepid
archaeologist tries to beat a band of Nazis to unique
religious relic which is central to their plans for world domination,
battling against the snake phobia, and a vengeful ex girlfriend
(09:41):
which is not even true. Indiana Jones is in constant
peril making Hair's breadth escapes at every turn in this
celebration of the innocent adventure movies of an earlier era.
What a weird see.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
This is why I despise the AI overview thing.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh no, this was actually written by George Lucas says,
right here, take back everything I.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Said about George.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
No it it's so weird though, Like, what are the
avengeful girlfriend ex girl? I mean, she's mad at him
for like three seconds and she saves their lives and
they immediately go to kiss town.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
All in between this, there's a Nazi Monkey. It's just
a sake tile Like I don't I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It's basically like, I mean, it's a it's a pretty
classic plot. I mean, let's be honest, the whole plot of.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
The movie Monkey.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's well, but you know what I mean, like the
actual like story itself, isn't that complicated. It's an adventure movie.
You got a superhero fighting itinst the evil Nazis, and
you know, a girlfriend that he's trying to win over.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right, well, we know like our twelve basic plots, right yeah,
man versus nature, man versus plot, man versus Nazi monkeys
saluted man vers himself.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know it's wait, wait, wait, wait wait, Let's take
the monkey. You remember the monkey from Gladiator too? Oh yeah, yeah,
and him in Indiana Jones that much like the pet
of the Nazi dude.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, how does the monkey die again? He has like
a really dramatic day.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I can't even remember because it was so still explode
or something. It's something something funny.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I thought he exploded. But yeah, basically there's a Nazi monkey.
But we'll get there, and it's adorable. There's a lot
of I was thinking about that on the drive here.
There's a lot of monkeys in Indiana Jones movies, Like
which one is it where they eat the monkey brain?
That's that temple I can't even remember. It's gotta be
Temple Doom because I haven't like just around gets kidnapped.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
This is the Indiana. I haven't watched Indiana Jones in forever,
and this is the like this is the last one
that I watched, Like oh wow, because I mean, I
like them, but they're not like my favorite movie ever?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Is it the Last Crusade where he goes on the train.
I think that's how one. I don't think I like
the Last Crusade. I I like Candom of the Crystal
Skull better, sue me. I'm tired of people saying that's
a terrible Indiana Jones movie because I actually really enjoyed
that one. Sorry, I hate to say it like that one.
All of them are pretty good, though for different reasons.
But I definitely like the Temple of Doom monkey brain scene.
(12:10):
That one's pretty funny, cool, gross as a kid?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Uh okay, shall we go into a plot?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Sure, okay, take it away.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Take it away. We have Indiana Jones, right, He's going
through a temple. He's gonna find like an ancient artifact.
I forget what the people or tribe are called. I
was gonna say like some sort of like ancient Aztec
or something, but I.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I remember it. I read it because I I was
looking online and that that was some somebody's criticism was
that they misinterpreted a certain religion or a certain culture tribe.
So I read the name, but I don't recall what
the name was.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I think it starts with an AM.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Right, I was gonna say pee, but.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, so much. This is why we don't do live.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
This is why we don't do no.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But here's here's the thing I don't want to say.
It's it's an ancient tribe of people protecting a relic.
I got a special delivery here. What a dumb ring tone. Okay,
so he has a pizza and I'm alone now, so
(13:26):
let me keep going through the plot Basically Indiana Jones.
He goes through, He has a guide with him, a
bunch of people that are getting scared. He finds this
old temple and basically goes through, gets to the relic.
He does the infamous scene where like he he takes
like a bag of sand, He takes it out so
(13:47):
it's the same weight, and then he like swaps it
out right so that it like stays the same, and
then all of a sudden he's like, okay, he has it.
His dude with him is like, all right, well we
can leave now but then all of a sudden, the
pillar start's going down, big boulder falls from the ceiling
(14:09):
lands on the ground. Right, We're not going to go
through the logistics of this and how they got a
big boulder like that shaped and put up there, but whatever, Right,
So Indiana Jones starts running through the temple. He runs
through all like the arrow traps and pits, walls and
stuff like that, running away from this boulder and such
and and I guess the boulder might be a little
later too, right because also the whole the whole area
(14:32):
is collapsing, right, Like, the temple is self destructed essentially,
which is interesting, like how does the temple Like how
is the temple built to self destruct? Very weird? And
how is an a pressure plate c N T and
a pressure plate anyways, the bottom of at the bottom
of a shaft. Wow. Uh. So basically, Indiana Jones partner
(14:58):
is like, oh, yeah, throw me the idol and I'll
like make sure that you're safe. And Indiana Jones is like,
all right, sure, So I tossed them in the idol.
The guy's like, ah, yeah, I've been betraying you one
more time. And he's like, uh, anyways, Indiana Jones decides
to jump this like six foot long gap and he
basically slides under the doorway, grabs his whip and pulls
(15:21):
it back under and looks at the dude. The dude's
been killed and another one of those traps boulder comes
and he Jones runs from the boulder. He gets out,
he's safe. But now there's some French archaeologist dude. And
this dude's like, oh, I go you O. I don't know,
I'm going to eat a bag. Yeah he's French, right, Yeah,
I think he's French and he was either a Nazi
(15:43):
or French, but he's French. A French Nazi.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Hey, those existed in World War two. Yeah, even though
it's set slightly before World War Two. It's like thirty six.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Thirty one, nineteen thirty one, which again I'm gonna be
honest last night. So like there's like the one scene
in the one movie is the Last Crusade where he
meets Hitler anyways, and he has his dad and whatnot. Anyways,
(16:13):
I kind of always thought the Indiana Jones movies took
place in like the forties, not like the early thirties.
Like I like, yeah, I always thought they were like
forties because because he met Hitler, right, not that's really hot,
it's disgusting. So anyways, I was kind of surprised to
(16:35):
hear it was thirty one because I was like, oh,
I never even.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Really are you sure it's thirty one? I thought this
one was thirty six.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I think it's thirty one. I mean, you want me
to look it up? Please, I can look it up.
What years Indiana Jones also Domino's please sponsor us great pizza.
We went on a whole rant about it last time.
Good rant rant sounds bad. Oh it's nineteen thirty six. Yeah, yeah,
(17:04):
I'm sorry. It is nineteen thirty six, with uh Temple
of Doom in nineteen thirty five and The Last Crusade
in nineteen thirty eight and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
nineteen fifty seven. So yeah, pretty interesting. I like the
(17:24):
period piece. I think it's I think it's cool. I
think it's nice. Uh thirty six. Hey, it's just for me.
It feels old, like it's tough for me because I've
always just kind of felt like, in the back of
my mind like it felt always a bit more modern
than the times actually sat to it, you know what
I mean. It's just it's just to me, it doesn't
(17:46):
necessarily feel like it's nineteen thirty or maybe I just
like think in my mind nineteen thirty is way crazier
than what I like, like crazy old. But like you
know what I mean, it feels like, if anything, it
feels like a more modern thirties.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
You know what, you know what I mean, Like, Nope,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Do you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
No, I mean, I understand the words you're saying, but
I don't. I don't. I don't feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, well to me, it definitely feels a little bit
more modern in that in that sense. But Hi, we're live,
We're live, We're live. We have a special guest at
the studio today.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Brando's currently caught in the door cover.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh and he went to Talk Time. Anyways, Tuesday, Brandow
can come say hi and tell us what he thinks
about Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark.
You want to come back here? Oh sure, I'm just great.
I was coming here. I haven't washed it in two
decades because I'm old, and it was fine. And hello,
(18:56):
that's Branda.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Thank you for the c CEO podcast and our Twitch
stream different now at twitch, dot tv, slash different av Media.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Are we streaming on twitch or now?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
We will be in a few minutes. This is a
very meandering episode. We need to we need to keep
it moving. I feel like we don't have a lot
to talk about anyways. Indiana Jones goes through. He gets
the idol kidnapped.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Who who so sad French guy takes it. I guess
I never really talked about it for the rest of
the movie. Hey kind of goes away. Anyways, he misses
the idol, he gets confronted by his like boss at
like you know whatever, like way he teaches his university,
the university, and he's like, yeah, so you see you
had it, but you didn't have it whatever. And it
seems like one of those things where it's like, oh,
(19:43):
you keep doing this like not getting the idols, but
like but it actually turns out he's actually just kind
of like super supportive and he's like, oh, whatever, it happens.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I thought that was a weird thing too. Yeah, like
when you first meet the guy, you expect him to
be kind of like the condescending boss, like giving him
hard quotas and everything.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So you're saying you had it, but then you lost it, right,
So you immediately think he's a bad ye like he's
gonna be like.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But then, like you said, no, he ends up being
like a good friend supporter.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And he comes to his house and he's he's packing.
He's like, hey, by the way, super excited. I would
have been like super excited to do this and buy youth,
like this is gonna be great for you. And you're like, oh,
this is the same dude who just said like you know,
you know what I mean. Anyways, so so he goes to,
uh where does he He goes to uh not Korea,
(20:31):
but it's in Tibet. Yeah, well, which, like which country
is that though? Tibet yeap Oh, Tibet's a country, but
it's an Asian country.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, it's kind of like there. It's near the Alps,
kind of like in my but you're China an.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Idiot, Okay, we go perfect. Anyways, See I thought he
went to like Korea or something, so that's that's that's
what I do. There was a lot of snow. It's like, oh,
I didn't know it's known so much in North Korea.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Careful.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So so I don't even think people who live in
North Korea knows it snows in North Korea. Okay, you're
gonna get us canceled or deported in North Korea.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
They're not going to see this, but the government will.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, I Kim, so this is flattering, like if any
politician were to watch yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I mean, hey, come on, no politics, no religion, let's
keep going.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
This is Indiana Jones. It's based on politics and religion.
That's a whole Actually it's based on history and science.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But you never know, and religion.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Okay, So movie continues goes on. Basically, he meets his
ex girlfriend. They're looking for like he's looking for this
medallion that's supposed to be attached to a weird stick
thing that one put in a little temple or like shrine.
Leads to the location of the Arc of the Covenant. Basically,
the Nazis are looking for the Arc of the Covenant
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because Hitler's like, this will make the ill be invincible.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's a French accent, not a German accident, but like, no,
how do you do? How do you? But that is
another historical thing. The Germans were very much into art
and stealing art and like that was a huge part
of the Nazi rule.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Well they got Army invincible. I finally got the accent.
Took a couple of seconds in my head. So gemans, Uh, basically,
Nazis are looking for this, some US agents or like
you know, Indiana Jones, we need you to go steal
this because, uh, it's easier to have a random archaeologist
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with no ties to the government just shot and killed
and fail his mission than it is to have a
bunch of like Seal Teams six going.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And didn't exist at this point. In fact, there was
basically no special forces at this point. Yeah in history.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, well, Indiana Jones was his own special force.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
He was.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And uh, basically he goes, he meets his girlfriend. His
girlfriend's like all right, his ex girlfriend, She slaps him,
tells him he's an idiot. But then the Nazis come
because they know Indiana Jones is also looking for this,
so they're gonna try and kill him, which okay.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And well, and they know that she has the what's
McCall thing, that he's the medallion that he's.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, like little key to it. Yeah, so
Indiana Jones, he basically like saves her from all the
Nazis kills like thirteen of them. I forgot how violent,
you know, honestly, I couldn't actually even remember like anyone
really dying Indiana Jones movies, you know what I mean,
other than like falling into lava or something. And then
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it just shows how long it's been since I watched
it because there's so much blood. There's a lot of
blood and people dying and getting thrown off cliffs and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Actually, some of those corpses are also pretty graphic in
some of those scenes.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know, they used cayenne pepper instead of blood in
the desert because it was like easier to transport and cleaner,
and so a lot of the stunt guys kept getting
burns in their eyes because they were throwing cayenne pepper
in their faces as like like blood effects. Yeah, that's
a fun little fact out. Yeah, just cheaper, easier to
carry it. Sucks to have coagulated blood in the desert,
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I guess, so cayenne pepper was what they decided to
go with because I feel like there was we kick
up red dust.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I feel like there's a better option than that. There
has to be.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, it's called CG I know. Yeah, but it just
goes to the respect I have for some coordinators really
just like hey, good for you guys and your healthcare provider.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
More in particular the stunt men or the stunt people
like alcohol them because yeah, they're the ones actually doing it.
The stunt coordinators are the are the people designing it.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Stunt coordinators, Yeah, people who do stunts. People do stunt people. So,
Indiana Joe, we can kind of fast forward some stuff.
We meet the Nazi Monkey. Basically, all the people like,
so where do they go next?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Like they go to that town. We don't I don't
know if they actually say what town is ca Cairo.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Cairo, Carl Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah is it Cairo?
I believe so I believe. So yeah, Like they go
so they go to Africa. Yeah, And and essentially a
bunch of people are trying to kill Indiana Jones because
they all know Indiana Jones is there to be like
a menace. And essentially, also here's the thing they do
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this movie thing in all the Enna Jones movies where
they show like there's like one hundred people watching Indiana
Jones at all times and seeing what he's gonna do
and stuff like that, and multiple times someone is holding
a gun behind him. They have about seven hundred thousand
opportunities to shoot him in the face and like a
secluded area, but then they wait until there's like one
hundred people around to pull out the gun. I don't
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like if I was an assassin. What do you think
makes more sense? Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Exactly what you mean.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Do I wait for forty people to be watching and make
it a spectacle so they think it's some kind of
cool gladiator fight? Or do I shoot him in the
alleyway when he's alone? Huh, just a little bit of
a notice anyways. So Indiana Jones basically finds one of
the locations where he can put like the stick in
the hole and stuff like that, but he can't really
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get to it because all the Nazis are around it. Meanwhile,
a bunch of people are still trying to kill him.
His girlfriend basically gets blown up or ex girlfriend whatever.
They're still kind of in love a little bit like that, Marian.
So she goes bye bye for a bit. She's not
actually dead, Yeah do you think she is? Yeah? Monkey dies,
Nazi monkey dies and we're kind of like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I actually when they did that, the way they did that,
I thought it was it was it was quite good.
Where it's like you expect him to just find her,
but she he doesn't, and you're like, oh shit, actually
killed her. Yeah, like then no, they didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They didn't kill her. He doesn't just find her later
in a tent, just saying there, just doing her thing.
So funny enough, we keep we keep going. Indiana Jones
finds the location of the arc and it's in the
middle of the dig site wherel on the Nazi starts
searching for it or sorry, it's.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
A little it's a little on the side, I like that.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
But the temple is peeking out of the ground exactly
where it is. So so after after supposedly months of
their operation digging here and no one found it, Like,
you know, commander, we have an exposed temple thirty feet
to the left of us. Should we dig there? No, nine,
we will dig that. We will dig. It's just like
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just like just like but but sir, like we can
see a templeman that if not odds okay. So Indiana
Jones comes and within six hours of him being there,
he immediately.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Finds the arc because he's not an idiot.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, he finds Mariam. Is it Marianne or marian I
think it's marian marian whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It is his girlfriend who's not his girlfriend, but he
wants to him to be his girlfriend or wants her
to be his girlfriend. But by the end she is
his girlfriend. Yes, that's much simpler. Yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Basically he finds her, but she tells her like, hey, listen,
I'm gonna have to go out to the ark and
you're gonna stay here and then we'll come back for
you once I have the arc.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
She's like, no, you're so mean.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Interesting And at first I was like, lady, that's actually
a great plan. It's perfect because they'll be looking for you.
That's like a great plan. But then you realize the
arc is six probably like one hundred pounds made a
pure gold, and it's the size of a casket, and
you're like, wait, hold on, maybe bruh, you probably could
have freed her actually first, And then yeah, got the
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arc because because what and again, we were digging there anyways,
why would they think to search for her there because
it's just not their cam.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But but also it's like are you not going to
be like, you know, chivalrous and you know, especially at
this time, that would have been like using your girlfriend
as bait. Like true, that's like not very historically accurate
in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Uh, I don't think women in the thirties were treated
as good as they are.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Now though, Yes and no, But there's there's difference between.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think, you know what I mean. I think historically
actually maybe some women were treated worse like witches.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, but she's not a witch, that's my point.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Ye, but the Nazis don't know that. Yeah, but I
think she should have just saved her, that's my point. Yeah,
it should have been this chivalrous thing to do. But
I don't think there's history oracle enough evidence to be like, yeah,
this dude would have read her.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think, so, do you think so? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Maybe maybe I'm like, I think so incorrect. But also,
Indiana Jones is a for someone who's like consistently a loner,
and pretty much all the movies he does have a
different girlfriend and every single one of them, so that's
a little weird. And then he has a kid with
Shyla buff with his kid, and essentially, uhrogac it's a.
(30:30):
It's a big thing, right, it's.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Really really progressive all of a sudden. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Uh, he finds the arc. It's in a room with snakes,
filled with pythons and other things. Pythons I think were
the only really dangerous ones. Even the cobras, I think
we're like venomized. But the assistant director, David Tomblin, was
bitten by a python.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Those were all real snakes. Yeah, did they burn real snakes?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
No clue. Uh. He was bit on the arm and
it went let go. So basically what he had was
one of the production assistants or someone from catery someone
somewhere started whipping the snake from the tail that I
would let go and fall down. And so yeah, so
as I'm concerned that was the only person who was
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bit by a snake. But yeah, I kind of grabbed
on it wouldn't let go.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
It was an ad. It's fine. Nobody cares about ads.
The first assistant director. He can replace them, no problem.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah whatever. There's also the famous swordsman scene in there.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Oh I love that scene. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
The guy pulls out a sword. He's going to go to town, Indiana.
Jones is gonna take the whip and go watch and
pull the sword out of his hand. That's what they
had practiced. Indiana Jones had food poisoning, kind of failed
to do it like five six times, and then he
just said to Steven Spielberg, I just shoot him. And
Steven Spielberg was okay with it, and so basically.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Didn't he just do it?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
From what I read on IMDb, he asked Sielberg, Uh,
and I don't think I think he wouldn't have just
done it because the crowd has such a perfect reaction
of running away too and like the guys falling down right, So, yeah,
Indiana Jones, he goes, shoots him, puts the gun away.
Another Indiana Jones kill like he's racking them up like
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he's Ted Bundy, and and yeah, he just kills another dude.
Next little thing is so they get the arc whatever,
But the Nazis have basically found where he's hiding essentially,
and he steal the ARC from him, leave him with Marion. Basically,
they're gonna run away. He's gonna die in the snake pit.
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This is my biggest problem with the whole film, because
clearly they're trapped in this sacred temple right where the
Ark of the Covenant was. Right, thank goodness, there's a
secret hidden wall that leads perfectly to the outside world.
And they don't have to do any digging whatsoever. They
perfectly just kick out a rock and they're immediately back
in the Nazi dig site. So again, oh, sir, should
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we should we dig there where that exposed rock is?
That is not that is not Awk of the Covenant
tie no, like like it's just like, oh my god, man,
like no one thought to like look there, like.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It's a movie, right, movie, it's a movie. So basically,
Indiana Jones escapes the Nazis see him and and basically
he's trying to get like the Arc of the Covenant
off of his plane because the plane's gonna take it away.
So he goes like stop the plane, and Marian gets
in it and she comes like a gunner. She starts
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blowing up the Nazi camp. A big old Nazi dude
comes and fights Indiana Jones, but he gets crushed by
a propeller in another insanely bloody gross scene that like
oh my gosh, like I didn't even maybe my dad
just covered my eyes at certain parts and that's why,
like I must have been like fifteen of My dad
was just like you can't see this. Uh no, So
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he dies, one more, one more guy dies, saying kill
counts in this film.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I'm sure somebody's went through and put it together.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, And and essentially they blow up the plane and
then now the Nazis are gonna take it on a
convoy of trucks. They're gonna go take it away, and
essentially Indiana Jones stops the convoy of trucks, he gets
the Arc, puts the ARC on a boat, him and
Marion sail off to the sunset the end. Or so
(34:39):
we think this is where the pacing gets a little weird,
because you have like a beautiful nd named Indiana Jones.
They're they're they're taking the ARC at the Covenant, they
have it, they're taking it to the States for examination.
They have a perfect scene r Indiana Jones and Marion
fall asleep together and she's like healing his wounds and
he's like, you know, I'm an adventurer or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Sixty nine Yeah, how many of those are Indiana Jones?
Like how many did he kill? Producer Brando?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, so sixty nine people die and then Marian and
Indiana Jones sixty nine and then basically okay, so there's
like it's like a good ending where they're all asleep
on the boat this side the moon goes die again
watch and I think there's yeah, Like, honestly, I think
it would have been good to end there, because the
pacing just feels so weird after because now it's like
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we put an hour long plot down into ten minutes,
like yes, and so that's my biggest problem with this
film is like it feels like it should end there.
And I like the last few scenes. I think they're good,
but it's just like the movie should have ended there
or cut or wiped whatever to the last scene where
they're talking with the guys and they're like, you know,
we can't tell you where the ARC is, but we're
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putting into safe keeping for a scientist, right, But no,
and instead a German U boat basically submarine comes threatens
to blow up the ship unless they give up Indiana
Jones and like the arc and stuff like that. Can't
find Indiana Jones, so they get Marion. Then Indiana Jones
swims onto the submarine and gets in and boards the
submarine and then basically he hides the submarine, he goes
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to the secret German naval base on this island, and
then he escapes there, kills some Nazis, gets in a
Nazi uniform. Then he basically goes and finds Marion and
frees her, and then they kidnap him again. And now
they're kidnapped again, and they're gonna be forced to watch
them open the Ark of the Covenant because they want
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to open it to see if it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
The largest truck fight, the whole truck chase scene.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Oh yeah, there's another chasing And I don't I'm not
saying that that's like a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's a cool scene. It's a really cool scene. Right now.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I just think at this point the movie should be
over just because it had a great ending. I don't
think we need any of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
You're an hour and a half.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
It's just like, be honest, this whole stuff should have
been stretched out a bit more. It feels half baked
in comparison.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, it's like the plot, like you say, the pacing
just accelerates tenfold when you get to that ship scene.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, like all of a sudden, it's like done and
then it goes done and not done done, and know
that's like that's like, yeah, great score.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
By the way, Yeah, it's gonna be stuck in my
head for the rest of today.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
So basically, they want to open up the arc because
they want to make sure that Hitler has exactly what
he needs, and you know, they don't make an embarrassment
to themselves, so they open it. But then God is
like uh uh uh, and he kills everyone that isn't
basically looking or he's sorry, he kills everyone that's looking
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at like the light coming through basically the Covenant, and
and then the lid snaps back on and everyone's dead
in the room except for Indiana Jones and Marion because
they weren't looking at the light. Uh. You know, it's
it's very interesting that Indiana Joe, it's new not to
look at the light in a way, because in all
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the depictions of the Covenant that they show in the movie,
people are looking at the light and nothing's happening to them.
Good point see, And and they think the Covenant's gonna
make them immortal. So we're going on the logic that
this is gonna make Nazis invincible. And in all the
depictions of art and drawing that they show in this
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movie are people looking at the arc being like yeah.
But in this end, Indiana Jones is like he uses
that information. He's like, let me close my eyes, right,
so so very interesting, and I guess it works, and
it works to his benefit as as it does usually,
And and they take the arc and the escape. They
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don't really show the escape, I guess, but they basically
show them getting back to the States. The US government's like, hey,
by the way, great work, we'll pay you, but a
team of researchers will take it from here. And then
they show that the arc gets put on a crate
and put into a big storage for stillity and stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
That scene reminds me of a TV show called Warehouse thirteen, Okay,
which I highly recommend people check out because it is
it's really fun. Basically, it's like this warehouse that stores
artifacts like that, artifacts and like abnormal supernatural things, and
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then they have like a team that like tracks things
down if they get stolen and stuff like that. It's
a really good show Warehouse thirteen. Check it out.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I see really good opportunities for a prequel and a sequel.
Super easy to name them Warehouse eleven, where else twelve? Yeah. Yeah, anyways,
let that's like the end of the movie. So that's
my biggest complaint. It's just like I feel like the
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movie should end on the boat. It just like that
for it to end on the boat, especially since like
we get into more supernatural stuff and I feel like
Indiana Jones gets captured twice again and escapes instantly, and
it's just like it's like, okay, like what are we doing?
Like yeah, and and that one of the like Nazis
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decided to not look at the Covenant as it was
exploding or.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, there's just a lot of plot holes and stuff
like that that just didn't work.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I feel like overall, the plot is kind of like,
how do I put this?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
It?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
The point of this movie is to make stunt action sequences,
and they do it spectacularly, and they build off and yes,
it's a it's it's really really well done, and but
I feel like the plot suffers a little bit in
a way where it's kind of simple and and and
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at times a little bit like you say, plot hole.
There's a couple of things, and it's not not bad
by any means at all, but I just feel like
it could be done better in certain areas.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
The word that comes to minds for me isn't isn't
necessarily simple, It's convenient.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Convenient. Yeah, that's a much better description. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I think there's a large majority of things that are
just oh, that's convenient. That's convenient, And after a while,
convenient can turn into many different things. Sometimes it's classic comedy,
other times it's what are we doing guys? Yeah, And
I feel like part of the times where these movies
get older charms comes from the comedy side, and I
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just unfortunately, I feel like when it comes to the
patent at the end, it turns into it turns into oh,
this is maybe convenient for the wrong reasons. But again,
I think it's a great movie. I love it. It's
just unfortunate that like, instead of making it like an
epic mystery, it's it's still epic, but it's more like
it's epically convenient, Like it's epically laid out for.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Him, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
So like instead of making it feel like Indiana Jones
is like some master archaeologist detective, like detective, sometimes it
feels like this guy is just really lucky.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
I think that too, Like you know, when you when
you and he is lucky.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Of course that's part of his character, but it's just
like it's just like I feel like it's at the
detriment of maybe some importance.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I feel like there's also more opportunity to show him
off as being kind of like this almost superheroish figure,
you know, and showing off some of his his skills
and whatnot. And I feel like, like you say, it's
so convenient, sometimes they miss that. It's like he's just
kind of wandering through this plot without having to do
a lot.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I think part of the lure of Indiana Jones is
he's a real person. He's he's a teacher, he's an archaeologist,
he's educated, and and he does it for the love
of the craft. So he is human in a way,
not a superhero. But I agree with you on that
same point though, that like it just feels like sometimes
like it's it's meandering a nooy you know, you know
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what I mean.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, the plot very much meanders until that ending sequence,
like you said, where it just speeds up.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
But yeah, meandering, And so it's like it's like you
want that balance of him being lucky and cool, but
you also want him to like be able to deduce
it sometimes. And I feel like the other movies do
a bit of a better job, where he reads like
Latin and stuff or like things on the walls of
the cave determine where to go next. But you know,
I feel like a lot of this movie is him
just kind of like going places, and there's not a
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lot of explanation of why he's there till like the
very end of the scene and then like he'll find
the arc or something like that. And it's exactly in
the middle of where a hundred other people looked, and
for some reason, he was just the only one who thought,
what if I opened this piece of stone. It's just
kind of like, oh, like you mean to tell me that,
Like there's hundreds of people here that are super determined
to get it, and this guy came in and within
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thirty minutes he knew exactly where it was. It's just
like very interesting, right, Yeah, No, obviously, it's part of
the charm. It's part of the creative things. It works
for some people, doesn't work for others. For me, it
works for them most of the time. It's just like
I do feel like a little bumped down by an occasion.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
And I think, honestly, like we always talk about what's
the point of this movie, and I think this movie
it's to have a fun action adventure story. And I
think they hit that.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
They hit that right, and even the score does a
good enough job to where like it's like, how do it?
Like I do magic tricks for my cousin, and they're
really shitty magic tricks, so they're not even magic tricks. Like, Okay,
Sunday night. What I did is I got two empty
containers of dice and I put I got her to
put one. I put a random dice in one and
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hit it behind my back and I told her, okay,
take any dice you want and put it in this.
I'll shake it around and come up with a different dice.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
So all I did was she put it in. I
going like shut and I pulled out the other dice
and she looked at it and gasped. I went, oh, magic,
And even that would heightened the moment for her because
she went magic. Right. It wasn't even as much as
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a trick, but as much as selling the trick. Music
does a good job for sure, selling the trick because
the music, it's like Indiana Jones like when you look
at it at face value, like it's a silent film. Okay, yeah, really,
there's six hundred people here who decided not to open
this ball the last nine thousand years that's been peeking
(45:24):
out of the sand, despite hundreds of archaeologists being there
who would all like to find some majestic artifact. Indiana
Jones comes and he's like, let's go through here, right exactly.
So he goes through and that selfie like, oh that's dumb.
But the music's like you're like, oh cool.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
That The thing is that that motif like that that
Indiana Jones motif or whatever, like they use that as
well to like help dictate the story, like anytime he's
had just a triumphant moment, it like programs your brain
like Okay, this is a triumph Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
And so yeah, it's it's it's not so much the trick,
it's selling it. And that's kind of what I that's
kind of like the analogy I'll use.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah, I think that's a good way of describing it.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
To explain, like, hey, sometimes that that movie, even if
the things itself aren't that cool at least there are
certain elements that bring it together, like cool filmmaking and
acting and over the top action. And some of the
editing is so sloppy with the punches so many times
I was chuckling to myself because you can see clearly
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the punch doesn't hit or something.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
And like just even like looking at how the fight
choreography has improved, Like the way he punches in these movies,
like I can't even replicate. It's just it's such a
weird punching.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Every punch goes from back here.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
And it's just it's such a weird motion.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
He starts back here for every punch he goes right now.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, and it's such a weird motion. And then like
you look at modern movies, it's a lot more like
accurate and and like and and actual you know punching
motion and yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, yeah, lots of kicks and stuff like that. But
I guess also kind of shows that Indiana Jones isn't
much of like a trained fighter. He's more of like, uh,
he's also kind of a bumbler in a way, right,
because he's kind of like he just tackles people and
like charges on him stuff and it just kind of
works out for him.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
So element is I think we're kind of used to
seeing every character being like John Wick being able to
solo like an entire group of armed guons, but but
Indiana Jones is more of like a charge in and
take one out.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
And then that's a very a very good point, like.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
You can't fight two people at once, you know what
I mean. That's not his character, but it is interesting
because like people like, oh, well it was different times
back then and stuff like that, but it was like, no,
just the editing was kind of sloppy in some of
those fight scenes because it's like.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Sometimes the camera angles and stuff too aren't aren't optimal, but.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
It's because it's not ironed out, right, Like it's just
like some of those things. It's like, I don't think
it needed to be because I looked at it and
I was like, oh, that's funny, but it didn't take
away from them, like how much I enjoyed the movie, right,
But it was a little funny, right whatever. You can
see the punched and hit big freakin' deal if you
weren't looking as close as I was, And it really
probably doesn't even matter. But I think now as the days,
(48:21):
we're like we're trained as an audience that like we
want perfection, right, so much perfection that if we see
that in a movie today, like if we saw that
in a Star Wars movie, well, hold on a second,
why was it okay in nineteen seventy But it's not
okay now? And it's like, oh, well, there's more technology
and stuff and it should be more ironed out your perfection.
But it's like, does it really take away? No, it
(48:43):
really doesn't. So it's funny to me.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
I think, well, I think it does depending on on
on who you are, like you or I who was
raised with modern movies. I mean we watched those older
movies too, but like we grew up with with modern
movies seeing that, and when I both noticed that, we
notice like, oh that looks interesting. But if that was
the only movie or only style of movie fighting that
(49:08):
you had seen. Let's say you know, you're ten in
nineteen eighty and you're watching this movie and like, oh
my god, this is so cool, you know whatever, whatever,
but that's the only movie fighting. I bet you didn't
even notice it. I bet you that was just like
fight a punch, right, and so I feel like it's
not that it takes away, it's just we're just not
used to it and so we notice it more.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
But here's the thing. If that happened in john Wick,
where you could see John one of John Wicks punch
or three of them didn't land, we'd be outraged. You'd
be like, I can't believe Connu Reeves would allow us
to happen. And oh my god, it's so sloppy. I
can't believe what Hollywood's going to. But in all the
India Jones movies, no, the punch is connected. You can
see they don't connect. So why do we love it?
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:49):
And it's like it's like, Okay, sure it's classic, it's beloved,
but I think it's it's not even that I feel like,
truthly what it is. It's just like it actually doesn't
even matter that much. It's the thought and the effort
and the creativity that matters. And the imagination. That's what
all of Steven Spielberg movies are about, is imagination and adventure.
(50:10):
And the punch not landing isn't the pivotal piece into
making it a good movie. Sure it's an extra detail.
Sure it's maybe something that looks a little funny. But
in all these movies that we're seeing and we're like,
that's sloppy because it does that. It's like, that's not
the reason it ruined the film for you. It's because
the imagination wasn't there. And that's part of having a
(50:31):
good movie is something where people want to imagine something
beyond surface level whatever, right, And I think I think
that's why it's acceptable. Right whatever, let's talk about how
the film was made, and I think, sorry, you do
(50:53):
you have something to say? Nope? Okay, okay. So George
Lucas likes to skipped down when a movie comes out.
He looks going on a vacation because there's a lot
of chaos when when the box office opened, so he
released a new hope. He went on a trip to
Hawaii where he met Steven Spielberg. So this is opening
(51:14):
weekend again. This is on IMDb on the official Trivia
of the film page, so you can check it out there.
He goes to Steven Spielberg hangout. They're building a sand
castle together apparently, and they're talking about Steven Spielberg directing
one of the James Bond movies and George Lucas says,
I have a better idea. He explains to him the
(51:35):
plot of Indiana Jones and like the story, and basically
Steven Spielberger says, yeah, he's down. And so this is
opening weekend of A New Hope. And they didn't talk
about it until after the first few days or whatever,
because George Lucas was like super concerned, like it was
all the only thing on his mind. But then he
really realized that A New Hope was making money, he
(51:57):
was like, okay, you can kind of relax on his vacation.
So yeah, then he tells Steven Spielberg basically what's up.
And they made a sand castle together, apparently, and and
he said, yeah, making any Yeah. I think the music's good,
it's funny. It's over the top pacing at the end.
I think it should just end at the boat. Honestly,
(52:18):
I don't even think we needed the ending those ending scenes.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
I agree with all that.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, yeah, is that it?
Speaker 1 (52:25):
That's all I got?
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Wow, Okay, well should we rate it and get out?
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Let's do it seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Seven and a half agree, seven and a half.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Nia Jones Ridges of the Lost Dark. You just watched
the Viewing Room live and I actually don't even know
how we end this episode.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
You know what, you just keep talking and doing the outro. Cool.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Thanks to Coliseum Presents for putting on epic cinema events.
We watched this at the Rock Sy It was an
incredible time, ran into some friends and coworkers and yeah,
it was great. Thank you so much. We do have
an Instagram at the view in your underscore and we
look forward to watching our next episode next week. If
you have any suggestions, concerns, or comments, leave them down below.
We'll see you next time.
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