September 13, 2025 • 54 mins
About 1-in-6 Americans suffer from an Autoimmune Disease, which is actually a growing problem. In this episode, we talk about:
—How Dr. Prather's career was inspired by his own battle with Graves' Disease, which is an Autoimmune Disease. And why making sure the Atlas is in proper place is "critical" for Autoimmune Disease and needs to be corrected first before there can be any progress.
—The various categories of Autoimmune Disease: Joints and Muscles (Rheumatoid Arthritis, Lupus, Myositis), Skin and Blood Vessels (Sjogren's Syndrome, Psoriatic Arthritis, Vitiligo), Digestive (Celiac Disease, Crohn's Disease, Ulcerative Colitis), the Endocrine System (Type I Diabetes, Addison's Disease, Hashimoto's, Thyroiditis, Graves' Disease), the Nervous System (Multiple Sclerosis, Myasthenia Gravis, Guillain-Barre), the Lymphatic System (Fibromyalgia), and many more.
—The different infections that can kick off Autoimmune Disease, including Viruses, Bacteria, Parasitic, or Fungal. And how Heavy Metal Toxicities and Stress can cause of Autoimmune Disease.
—Why the underlying cause of the Autoimmune Disease is more important to determine in Dr. Prather's Structure-Function Health Care model, while the Disease Care approach focuses on managing and suppressing the symptoms. And the "huge" role that the Gut plays in Autoimmune Diseases.
—The new cutting-edge area of drugs called Biologics and how they work. And how Vaccines are actually classified as Biologics.
—How Immunosuppressant Drugs can be helpful and life-saving, but can also increase your chances of Cancer and a shortened life-span. And why Dr. Prather says, "The more drugs that you take, the longer you take them, the more likely you are to have an issue."
—Why your ability to fight infections, viruses, fungal, and parasites "go way down" if you are taking an Immunosuppressant Drug.
—How Dr. Prather himself and many of his patients are a "testament" that Medical Doctors are wrong when taught to believe that there is no hope of getting well from Autoimmune Disease. And how the Structure-Function Care results he sees in his office disprove the Medical model's belief that symptoms should just be managed and that the patient will always get worse.
—Why Dr. Prather says "we're not going to get anywhere" with an Autoimmune Disease if you have Heavy Metal toxicity. And the importance of thorough diagnostics in Structure-Function Care to determine the root cause of the Autoimmune Disease that needs to be corrected.
—The effectiveness of Structure-Function Care, which is "the only way you're going to make headway in an Autoimmune Disease". And the reason Homeopathics are described by Dr. Prather as "a real key" for making dramatic changes in Autoimmune Disease.
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—How Dr. Prather's career was inspired by his own battle with Graves' Disease, which is an Autoimmune Disease. And why making sure the Atlas is in proper place is "critical" for Autoimmune Disease and needs to be corrected first before there can be any progress.
—The various categories of Autoimmune Disease: Joints and Muscles (Rheumatoid Arthritis, Lupus, Myositis), Skin and Blood Vessels (Sjogren's Syndrome, Psoriatic Arthritis, Vitiligo), Digestive (Celiac Disease, Crohn's Disease, Ulcerative Colitis), the Endocrine System (Type I Diabetes, Addison's Disease, Hashimoto's, Thyroiditis, Graves' Disease), the Nervous System (Multiple Sclerosis, Myasthenia Gravis, Guillain-Barre), the Lymphatic System (Fibromyalgia), and many more.
—The different infections that can kick off Autoimmune Disease, including Viruses, Bacteria, Parasitic, or Fungal. And how Heavy Metal Toxicities and Stress can cause of Autoimmune Disease.
—Why the underlying cause of the Autoimmune Disease is more important to determine in Dr. Prather's Structure-Function Health Care model, while the Disease Care approach focuses on managing and suppressing the symptoms. And the "huge" role that the Gut plays in Autoimmune Diseases.
—The new cutting-edge area of drugs called Biologics and how they work. And how Vaccines are actually classified as Biologics.
—How Immunosuppressant Drugs can be helpful and life-saving, but can also increase your chances of Cancer and a shortened life-span. And why Dr. Prather says, "The more drugs that you take, the longer you take them, the more likely you are to have an issue."
—Why your ability to fight infections, viruses, fungal, and parasites "go way down" if you are taking an Immunosuppressant Drug.
—How Dr. Prather himself and many of his patients are a "testament" that Medical Doctors are wrong when taught to believe that there is no hope of getting well from Autoimmune Disease. And how the Structure-Function Care results he sees in his office disprove the Medical model's belief that symptoms should just be managed and that the patient will always get worse.
—Why Dr. Prather says "we're not going to get anywhere" with an Autoimmune Disease if you have Heavy Metal toxicity. And the importance of thorough diagnostics in Structure-Function Care to determine the root cause of the Autoimmune Disease that needs to be corrected.
—The effectiveness of Structure-Function Care, which is "the only way you're going to make headway in an Autoimmune Disease". And the reason Homeopathics are described by Dr. Prather as "a real key" for making dramatic changes in Autoimmune Disease.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, I'm Lisa Preither, and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. We're talking today about beyond immunosuppressants, autoimmune alternatives,
and doctor Prether, what are autoimmune diseases?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, interestingly enough, of course, autoimmune diseases. That's where I
got into alternative healthcare what people would consider as far
as my healthcare journey, because I had an autoimmune disease
called Graves disease which caused a whole series of problems
in my health and was able through structure function care
(00:58):
to be able to get rid of it, which was very,
very beneficial. So autoimmune diseases is something that I look
at real carefully and very much involved with. But if
you're trying to understand what an autoimmune disease, a good
way to put it is that you have a castle,
which is your body a castle castle, So think of
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it as a castle, and then you have your soldiers
out there, and you have invaders coming in attacking the castle,
and your soldiers are fighting, and then all of a sudden,
your soldiers start to attack the castle. So that's an
autoimmune disease where your own soldiers are starting to attack
(01:41):
different parts of your body. So, in other words, your
own defensive systems becomes the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Right right, I've always heard it's like, yeah, your body's
fighting itself.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's fighting itself.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So what are examples of autoimmune diseases?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Well, there are quite a few different areas, Like if
it's an automune, and they're named according to the area
that's being attacked. Oh interesting, So joints in muscle, and
there's about one hundred and fifteen different autoimmune diseases out there,
and I'm not going to name.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Them all, one hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
One hundred and fifteen. Some of them I can't even pronounce.
So I'll hit some of that lot. Yeah, so you've
got joints in muscles, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, mylesitis are some
of the ones. Skin and blood vessels, shorgan syndrome, psoriasis,
aureatic arthritis, vitaligo, you're looking at digestive siliac disease, crones,
(02:39):
all sort of colitis, the ENDERCN system. Type one diabetes
is an autoimmune disease. Addison's disease, hashimotives, thyroiditis, and Graves disease.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
E Graves is what you have, and that's what I have.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And then we also have the nervous system multiple sclerosis, miosenia, gravis,
Gillan beret on and on.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, that's interesting that those autoimmune diseases are classified like that,
like joints and muscle, elstrification, digestive.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Right, so you can actually go through all of them
and those are the areas that they actually attack. And
interestingly enough, as you're dealing with autoimmune diseases, basically what
you're trying to do is, of course get the immune
system to quit attacking your body.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So what causes autoimmune disease?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That is an interesting type of thing, and this has
a lot to do with the whole process of how
you approach it. So medically, when you're talking about disease care,
which we'll define a little bit, but disease care basically
says it doesn't really matter, it's just trying to get
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it to stop. Now, for structure function care, the cause
is very important because as you can take care of
the cause, you can actually usually stop the attack. So
for type one diabetes, Usually what happens is that there's
a virus that goes into the pancreas basically the eyelets
(04:14):
of longer hons, and a good way to describe that
is that the immune system is trying to get to
the virus and it destroys the islets of longer hans
in meantime. So it can be infections, viral, bacterial, parasitic, fungal,
all can kind of kick off and autoimmune disease. You
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can also have heavy metals is another cause of autoimmune disease.
It can be stress, anything that puts an increased stressor
on the immune system where the immune system becomes worn down.
And as it becomes worn down, it's like, you know,
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you've got troops out there and they're fighting a battle
and they become sort of like shell shock would be
a way to put it, and so they no longer
work properly and start to attack things that are them.
The whole thing that's really important on the immune system
(05:18):
is that the immune systems able to differentiate between foreign
invaders and you. And so what happens is that being
able to differentiate on that is lost on the immune system,
and then it starts to think that the body itself
(05:38):
is a foreign invader. Like one of the things is fibromyalgia.
Fibromyalga is an autoimmune disease of the lymphatic tissue. And
basically what happens is you've got a very very toxic
lymphatic system that the body starts to think is a
foreign invader and starts to attack it. So you know,
you can start to see sort of the mattern along
(06:00):
those lines and how you need to approach it to
get the body to start working correctly.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's interesting. You know the causes you said, viral, bacterial, stress.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Stress, anything that puts extra stress on the immune.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
System heavy metals.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, A big area is the gut. If something goes wrong,
eighty to seventy percent of the immune systems around the gut.
So the gut plays a huge role in autoimmune disease.
That's one thing that we always talk about. So there
can be all sorts of infections or dysbiosis. In other words,
you know, looking for what is it that's actually gone
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wrong with the system is one of the most important
things in structure function care for autoimmune disease.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, and I know we're going to talk about this later.
But it's so important to clear out those infections Oh yeah, yeah,
that are in your body and know about them first
of all. So how common are autoimmune diseases?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well, interestingly enough, there's about we got about three hundred
and thirty million people in the United States, and about
fifty million of them have a diagnosed autoimmune disease. Wow,
which is a very high number.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And it's interesting that you know that many people are
actually suffering from it, so it is a very very
big problem. And what they find is that sixty five
percent of the people who are diagnosed with autoimmune diseases
have just one of them, twenty four percent have two,
(07:32):
two eight percent have three, and two percent have four more.
So you can actually have more than one autoimmune disease
going on at a time.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah. Real interesting. I remember when I was working with
neuro patients back when I just got out of college.
I mean again, but Ray, some of these are pretty
recent diagnosis. Yeah, yeah, you know, so is there new
autoimmune disease?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
There are? And one of the biggest things is that
autoimmune diseases are a really growing problem. Like kids back
in our days, you know, none of the kids had
autoimmune diseases now. It's a very growing number of kids
that are having autoimmune diseases now and the numbers of
(08:22):
people that are having it. So one of the things
is that there's obviously some environmental and stress, you know,
in other words, our society is getting sicker and it's
becoming much more of a problem in each of these
different areas.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So who is most likely to get autoimmune diseases?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Well, it's interesting because it's a two to one ratio
on females, so more females are likely to get autoimmune
diseases than males. They've come up with several different theories
along those lines. There are thoughts that maybe men are underdiagnosed,
but right now it does appear that females actually have
(09:06):
a two to one ratio on that that could be
because of the double X. They think there could be
like a genetic type of thing that might be different causes.
But there's a lot of different theories on that women
in general have a lower white blood cell count than
the interesting oftentimes and show up that they have a
(09:30):
weakened immune system at a greater rate than men do.
So exactly why that is. Part of it could be
the hormone cycle. You know, also they may have a
compromise immune system carrying children that they have to be
more forgiving for. You know, there's a lot of different
(09:51):
types of theories on that, we're not really quite sure.
And then also the peak age for autoimmune diseases and
then it kind of tapers off after that sixty five,
So that's the peak ain, that's the peak age when
people actually get an automune.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Disease, okay, and then tapers off.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Then it tapers off as you go along, but it
goes the younger you are, the less likely you are
to have them, up until the age of sixty five,
and that's when it seems to be the most prevalent racially.
It's interesting because different types of autoimmune diseases have different
(10:30):
racial characteristics as far as who gets it more than
others HM, which is rather interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, we can talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 2 (13:34):
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Speaker 1 (13:40):
Let's talk about that with their effects.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
There's a lot of reasons people take nonstrtal anti inflammatory drugs.
The most common one about I think almost eighty percent,
is because of osteoarthritis. The problem with nonstureidal anti inflammatory
drugs is that it causes osteoarthritis. Let me repeat this.
Non story l anti inflammatory drugs actually cause osteoarthritis. So
(14:06):
if you didn't have osteoarthritis and you started taking non
story lantine inflammatory drugs, within about six months, you will
have osteoarthritis.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And how does it do that?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
It destroys the cartilage in the joints. If you take
it short term, let's say you have an injury, they
work great until you get it healed up. You take
it on a daily basis and it will destroy your joints.
So it's interesting. You take opiate's for the pain and
it causes pain. You take non story lantine inflammatory drugs
(14:38):
for osteoarthritis and it causes osteoarthritis. But not only does
it destroy your joints, but it also causes kidney, liver
damage and other different types of issues. Where I've had
people who were basically ready to go on dialysis because
they were taking nonstoryal anti inflammatory drugs for their oustereoarthritis.
Wo oh. We sit there and say, well, you know
(15:02):
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I'm in too much pain. I said, well, we can
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You're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor Robert
Praise of Holistic Integration, the most comprehensive wellness center in
(16:04):
the Midwest. I'm talking today about beyond immunosuppressants autoimmune alternatives. So,
doctor Prayther, what are immune suppressants?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So, immune suppressants are drugs that are designed to cause
the immune system not to work as well as it.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Suppressing just like it sounds right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So the idea behind that is you have the immune
system going a little crazy. So what you do is
you go out there and shoot the crazy guys.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We have a lot of war analogies.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, we do. And basically that's what the immune system is.
The immune system. It's important to understand that we are
trying to keep our selves intact and not returning to dust,
and the world around us is trying to take us
down and turn us into dust. That's the conflict that's
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going on, and so nature is trying to If we
aren't strong enough to resist it, then we die and
return to the earth. So immune system is to keep
us healthy, strong, so that we can resist any type
of foreign invaders when the immune system turns on you.
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The main concept of the medical profession is symptomatology. So
what you do is you going ahead and suppress the
immune system, stop the symptoms, and then you take it
from there.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So that's what you're doing when you're.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Doing an immune suppressort. The idea is to if it's
not working right, let's just kind of kill it the
rest of the way.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
So when are immune suppressants used.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Well, immune suppressants are used in automune diseases. That's a
very common type of thing. But also one of the
things is that they're also used whenever you get a
tissue transplant or if you get a bone marrow graft
into your system. So like, as an example, I had
a patient who had a transplanted lung. You know that
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she had had disease going on, things like that and
had someone else's lung put in her which kept her alive.
So she came in to work on her health to
kind of maintain that. So we were giving her vitamins, minerals,
things along those lines to keep her as healthy as possible.
But one of the things is we did too good
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of the job.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
You did. Okay, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, that means that it also stimulated. In other words,
we overcame the immune suppressants and her immune system started
to raise. And of course they were watching it real closely,
which they should, and they said, oh, you know, there's
a problem here. You're starting to have a read. So
we had to back off on what we were doing
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to keep per immune system becoming too strong to actually
then reject the tissue. So that was a case that
is absolutely showing when immune suppressants really were necessary and
us making her healthy wasn't actually good. So you know,
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those types of things can actually occur. There was another
example as we were talking about immune suppressants when I
was talking to a gentleman who came into our office
and he actually had two diagnosed autoimmune diseases too. And
we're sitting there and we were kind of getting the
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picture on what was going on with him, and you know,
we found out that he traveled a lot and was,
you know, like a truck driver, and his main diet
was McDonald's. He would take about four beers to go
to sleep. He smoked didn't exercise.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
And he was wondering why he didn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, and we sit there and we said, now, you know,
you've got two autoimmune diseases. These are the things that
are going to need to change. And he said, no,
not doing it. He was suffering from the autoimmune diseases.
And I said, well, you know, we're probably not going
to be able to make a difference here. This particular
(20:35):
biologic that was recommended to you probably is the best
way to go, you know, because you're not really going
to be trying to.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Get to put the work into it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, yeah, it was just not there. And with the
immu suppressants, they do work, you know, they help out
with symptoms, but we'll talk a little bit about some
of the problems they're associated with that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Because we're going to talk about autoimmune righttives. But for
someone like him, right yeah, so you know that's interested.
Why did he come in, Well, well.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
He kind of you know, we wanted to see what's
an alternative because he's read some of the things that
occur with him. But you know, it was like, well,
you know, how long do you want to live to
and in other words, there are definite times for immusuppressants.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, So why are immunosuppressants used in autoimmune diseases.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, it's something that really does help out with symptomatology.
So you do get a response on that where you
know a lot of the symptomatology will go away. So
when you look at that and say, hey, I'm really
interested in getting these symptoms under control and that's your
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main goal, then immusuppressant is a very smart way to go.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
So what are some common immunosuppressants.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Well, well, of course, one of the things that's been
around forever is the corticosteroids, and that's something that is
made by the body. So what they're doing is they're
just supplying from the outside and it can help to
take down inflammation and also suppress the immune system and
get some relief. So if you have like a flare
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up of something, taking the protocols steroid can get things
under control. If it's kind of an emergency situation where
the autoimmune disease is just is become life threatening, corticosteroid
can get that back under control. However, the more that
you take, the more likely you are to have problems,
and the less it is to work, so it's something
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that's more of an acute type of a phase. Very
important to have something that's been around for a while now.
The next one is biologics. That is a new type
of thing, and it's a classification of drugs. Basically, when
you're talking about biologics, it's already like a biologic would
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be if you got a bone marrow transplant. You know,
it's something that's actually already living and existing. So it's
a very complicated type of thing. It's not like pharmaceuticals
where you're taking petrochemicals and then shifting it to imitate
some type of chemical. The biologics are actually complicated proteins, enzymes,
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and other different types of things that you can put
together and then have effects on the body. And it's
become sort of a cutting edge area and a very
fast growing area of healthcare, and it has all sorts
of different possibilities. I've had people who were having cancer
they were able to get a biologic and really, you know,
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I would say it gave them about four to five
more years, So very very exciting type of things. As
far as in medicine, some of the common biologics that
they use for autommune disease is humer and remicate. Those
are ones that are very well known, so that gives
people an idea of what's involved with that. Calcineurine inhibitors
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is another one, and that basically there are several on
those neural protopic gangraph people might be on those, and
basically what it does is it blocks T cell production,
which is part of the immune system. Ininosne nonophosphate dehydrogenase. Basically,
what it does is it keeps the cell growth from occurring.
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So it's an inhibitor genus kinex inhibitors, which actually can
work quite a bit as far as on joints. Zogenics
is one of the ones that comes along those lines.
I'm not gonna say a lot of the names, but
there are quite a few different categories along those lines,
and they do different types of things. So it has
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become sort of more, you know, your kind of targeting
each of the autoimmune diseases just to kind of really
hit those.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And yeah, I recognize some of these names from commercial.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Commercials, Yes, commercials every ellen by the way, I mean,
it's right now a three hundred and forty four billion
dollar industry industry is what the immuosuppressants right now?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So wow, all right, when we come back, we're going
to talk about what are the problems with immunosuppressants. We'll
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function model and how it applies to chronic pain because
structure function care is what we do at Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Certainly, the FDA, whenever something new comes along, either a
product or a service, they divide it up into either
disease care or structure function care. Disease care is dealing
with symptomatology. Structure function care is bringing basically health back
through homeostasis and balance. So you're balancing the structure and
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the function or physiology of the body to achieve a
more healthy individual.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, and how have you seen it be effective in
helping chronic pain especially?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, it's very well known. The only way that you're
going to fix pain is through structure function care. The
disease care model is symptom based. So the disease care
model is very good good for short term types of
things or end of life. The disease care model is
not good on a long term type of basis. And
one of the things is that there was a commission
(28:10):
that was put together by the government to evaluate what
would be the best way to approach pain because of
the opioid crisis, and they came out basically with a
structure function model. And I was very excited about that,
very surprised and very pleased. And of course they said, well,
we need to have the drug companies look it over,
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and of course they just tort all the shreds and
say that we're not putting this out. And of course
we believe in an eighty twenty split, eighty percent of
all cares should be structure function based, in twenty percent
disease care, because there are definite times where the opiods,
the nonstlanti inflammatory drugs, and steroids work very well. However,
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when you talk about any type of long term type
of thing, really that's where structure function care should come in.
There is a tremendous amount of ability for structure function
care to fix pain right. So we need to get
the pain under control through chiropractic, acupuncture, physiotherapy, activities.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Of daily living, psycho therapy.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Physical therapy, all those types of things. That's how you
fix pain. It's very effective.
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No Way. I'm Lisa Prather, and you're listening to the
(31:08):
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where we get to the root cause of your health issue.
We're talking today about beyond immunosuppressants, autoimmune alternatives, and doctor Prather,
let's talk about what are the problems with immunosuppressants.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Well, because they're immunosuppressants.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Okay, that's easy.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So part of the problem is that, well, I mean
you can't have there can be some very strong reactions
a constent, so the body can respond very negatively. So
all drugs have problems that are associated with them. The
more drugs that you take, the longer you take them,
the more likely you are to have an issue, which
is just the nature of drugs. But immune and suppressants
(31:58):
are specifically can leave you open to infections, so you know,
your ability to fight viruses, bacteria, fungal parasites go way down,
so that is a problem. One of the things is
that before you actually start that sometimes vaccinations are necessary.
(32:19):
By the way, vaccinations are under the category of biologics
because they use a part of the actually tissue. So
you know, you need to really go through that very
carefully with your provider as far as who's giving that
to you, being aware, and then you need to be
much more cautious with your health. You don't want to
(32:41):
be around sick people. If you have certain types of jobs,
you know you need to kind of work with that.
So you are much more likely to get infections, You're
much more likely to get cancer because weakened immune system
is one of the things that kicks off cancer. If
you have a good, strong immune system, it'll actually keep cancer.
So whenever you have an immune suppressant. I've had people
(33:04):
come in who were on immune suppressants and then did
develop cancer, and of course that was one of the
things that was going on, and immediately they took them
off the immune suppressant, which kicked off. Of course they're
aut immune disease on top of the cancer, so it's
a you know, ongoing type of thing. You know, you
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have to try to rebuild the immune system at that point.
One of the things is probably an immune suppressant is
it helps with your symptoms now, but it definitely could
shorten your lifespan, you know, either through cancer or infections,
those types of things. And when you do go off
the immune suppressant, it can take quite a bit of
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work to try to get your immune system working again.
So there are things to think about and really you know,
looking at and way the benefits versus the risk. One
of the things I've seen as a real problem is
that doctors are just automatically recommending an immune suppressant and
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not really explaining the consequences of that most of the people,
because I have people come in and say, hey, you know,
I've got ara. They want me to go on this
immune you know, on this drug. And I said, well,
do you realize that's an immune suppressant?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And they said no, oh, they didn't realize that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
They didn't realize that it wasn't really explained to them,
and that you know, what does that mean? What are
the problems that are associated with that? So I'm finding
that it's not being explained. And I said, you know,
were they did they actually talk about any alternatives? And
they said, now, you know, they really didn't think there
(34:47):
were any because all they're thinking of is disease care,
not structure function care.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, well let's talk about what role can struct your
function care play and autoimmune disease.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Well, when you're reading about automune disease medically, they say
all you're doing is treating the symptoms, that there is
no hope of ever getting well. I'm a living testimony
that that's not true. I have a lot of patients
who would certainly counter that, you know, that that was
(35:20):
not true, and that basically it's just like, you know,
we have a rheumatology as far as in our building,
and we refer there quite a bit, you know, for
some of the cases for automyan disease, especially a lot
of our severe ones. And it's just like I had
one gentleman with Shorgan's disease. It was pretty severe, and
so I was also having a monitored through the rheumatology.
(35:45):
After a year of treatment, the rheumatology says, I don't
think you have it anymore. And he's like, I've never
had anyone get better before.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know, that's amazing. And we have an awful lot
of cases along those lines that prove that that's not
actually the case of You know what.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Ben't do a shout out to you. I don't do
this very often, but in the last month, we've been
out in public and you've had two past patients come
up to you saying that you've saved their lives, you know,
And I mean that just blows me away. Really. So
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the effect that this type of healthcare structure function care,
where it can get to the root of the problem.
You know, we all want our symptoms to be better,
but if it's not getting to the root of the problem,
and that's what structure function care, why don't you define
it a little bit more. I just had to do
that little shout out.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
So structure function care is braining the body. It brings
the body to health. Health is defined by homeostasis. Basically,
the body in hemeostasis is healthy and health is balance,
and it has to be balanced both structurally, in other words,
the chiropractic, the corrective exercises, all of that is very important,
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much more important than people realize for it. But also
then functionally where you're bringing the physiology back into play.
But the two have to work together to really be effective.
So what you do is you find out where the
body's off. Do you have heavy metals, Well, you know
we're not going to get anywhere unless we get rid
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of those. Do you have chronic infections, We need to
get those under We need to rebuild your immune system
to get that better. You have autoimmune disease that the
body is actually attacking itself, get rid of all the
things that are causing problems, rebuild the immune system, and
then things are going to work better. You know, if
your liver's not working up to part, kidneys are low,
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you know, you have to go through the whole system
and get everything corrected and then also get rid of
the poisons in the body that's causing the issues, which
are zenobiotics. And interestingly enough, all pharmaceuticals are classed as
a zenobiotic, so oftentimes I also need to detext the
(38:23):
pharmaceuticals out of the system to be able to make
the corrections. Now, don't get me wrong, there are definite
times for the disease care model, but we look at
it as eighty percent of all healthcare should be structure
function care and twenty percent should be disease care. The
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example that I use is that you have a football team,
and if you only have an offensive unit and no defense,
you're probably going to lose. And the reason that our
healthcare system is so screwed up in America and we
are thirty eighth out of thirty five industrialized countries for
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healthcare is because all we've been putting our money and
effort into is offense and we don't even have a
defensive team. And if you are going to play football
like that, the Super Bowls are one with defense, and
healthcare is one with structure function care.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Hmmm, that's good. Defense wins the game.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
When wins the game.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, so you might have answered this, but what is
the goal of disease care and autumn immune disease.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Well, you know, disease care is symptom based, so all
diseases are classified according to symptoms, and symptoms can be
misleading because you could have a whole bunch of different
types of original causes that lead to those symptoms. You know,
when you're talking about symptom based type care, it's helpful
(40:01):
along those lines, But what kind of long term type
of effect does it have?
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You know, the more that you the pharmaceuticals, the number
that you take, the more likely you are to have problems.
And the longer you take them, the more likely you
are to have issues. Matter of fact, one of the
big problems that we had, we just had a patient
came in and they had twenty medications.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
That they were on, twenty medications.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Twenty medications, and it's like, you know, I'm not going
to get anywhere, you know, because it's polypharmacy. Anything right now,
over five medications is polypharmacy, and you have no idea
what is occurring on the individual. Yeah, so they're interacting, Yeah,
how they're interacting. I mean, it's just a chemical soup.
(40:45):
At that point and that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
All right. When we come back, we're going to talk
about which form of care is better to choose for
autoimmune disease and go more into the autoimmune alternatives. Will
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X ray imaging. Well, let's talk about how thorough because
you have specific X rays, especially for the neck area.
You know, people say, well, I got X rays here,
can I use them?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
We look at them and oftentimes they're not adequate, so
we need to take our own. We have our our
X rays also read for pathology by the gentleman who
wrote the textbook that is usually used in radiology, and
he said, you're in the top one percent of the
X rays that we get in the quality said if
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everybody had X rays like yours, my job would really
be so much easier. So it's gratifying on that. And
we really try to go above and beyond what's required
and really get what we need. So it's important to
be able to read them to make sure you understand
all the pathologies. And we really do a very thorough
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job on that. We do want X rays because it
has a huge effect on how we adjust because we
need to know one, is there any pathologies that we
need to be aware of? Are there any types of
special biomechanics that are going on. It's just like we
recently had a patient who came in. Well, you know,
I've gone to four different chiropractors and I really hurt afterwards,
(43:21):
and I said, well, we'll need to do some X
rays first and see exactly what was going on. I said,
you know, what did they find on the X rays?
So well, I didn't get X rays and I said,
you know and you heard afterwards and he said yes.
So we took the X rays and he had a
spinalist thesis of L five with grade two and well, anyway,
(43:43):
in other words, he had a fracture in there where
things that slipped forward, and the type of adjustment that
was being done on him was completely contraindicated for that care.
So it's like, yeah, yeah, I bet you did hurt.
You know, there's a specialized adjustment for that. And we
did that adjustment and he goes, oh, my gosh, I
didn't even know I could feel like that again.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
And it was after the first time.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
If X rays had just been done.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
That would have been very evident and they should have
known then that you shouldn't be doing that particular type
of adjustment. That there's a specialized adjustment for that. So
we did the adjustment and he couldn't believe it. He's
been coming back and he says, I feel so amazing,
And I said, now that's what you should feel like
with chiropractic. Our patients don't feel worse. They can tell
(44:31):
a difference immediately right, And it's because we know exactly
where the misalignment is, we know how to put it
in and we get it done.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
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the Voice of Health with doctor Robert Crather of Holistic Integration,
where our mission is restoring hope to our patients. We're
talking about beyond immunosuppressants, autoimmune alternatives and digit pray. There.
What success does structure function care have with autoimmune disease?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Well, you know, when you're measuring success, the disease care
model you always get worse. So for symptom wise, they
are good, and then you know, eventually all the good
will wear out and your symptoms will come back and
you'll have problems. So it's a temporary type of symptom relief,
(45:56):
whereas with structure function care, you have the hope of
getting to the point where not only do you have
the symptoms down, but then the immune system's actually working
extremely well. Now if your immune system drops again, the
autoimmune disease will come back. So it's a long term
type of thing that you need to keep up to
keep your health going. But we've had really good success.
(46:19):
I've had people who I've taken care of for years
and years and years, you know, because I've been in
practice for forty years and had people work for me,
and you know, I mean one of my long term
employees was a gal who had lupus and she had
come in to me as a patient back when I
first opened up and got her loopus under control, and
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then we hired as an employee, worked like fifteen years
for us, yeah, and then eventually retired and we still
see her whenever her loopus flares up, you know, to
keep that under cont.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
And she's in her eighties and yeah, the circles around people.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yes, she does, she does. So, you know, and I
could talk about case after case like that where we've
even had people who seem to be completely in remission
and not taking any pharmaceuticals for it. So, you know,
the only way that you're going to make headway in
a autoimmune disease is through structure function care.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
So let's talk about how important diagnostics are in structure
function care.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Well even more so than in disease care. Because disease care,
once you establish what the disease is, it doesn't really
matter that they basically watch blood work to make sure
that the pharmaceuticals aren't causing more damage than they're helping.
So that would be the goal along those lines. But
for us, we're trying to find all the things that
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could have gone wrong with the system that cause the
autoimmune disease. You know, we're checking for heavy metals, infections
the gut, we're checking the blood work. You know, we
need to know what is off on the system and
what needs to be corrected. And then the body is
really the hero. It's like, what are you giving me
(48:05):
for my autommune disease, and it's just like, well, you
know all the things that you need to be healthy.
You know, the healthier If you are a healthy person
who's in homeostasis, which means you're in balance, you wouldn't
have on autoimmune disease, you would be able to fight
off infections, you would be working correctly. So looking at
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all the things that are involved in that are extremely important.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Well, let's talk about the different areas of structure function
care and how they help autoimmune disease. Let's start with chiropractic.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Well, one of the most important things for me was
getting my atlas fixed. That's why I became an antlys orthogonist.
So the atlas controls the lower brainstem, which controls the
autonomic nervous system, which controls everything else. So if you
don't have the nervous system correct, it's going to be
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very very well, it's going to be almost next to
impossible to be able to get over an automune disease
or make progress in your health. So for everyone, making
sure that their ATLAS is in place is a very
critical type of thing for autommune disease. And then also
working with the rest of the spine as it makes
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its corrections. But the ATLAS is key for overall health
and well being. It controls the vegus nerve per sympathetic
sympathetic balance, one of the things we do as an
autonomic nervous system test, and if it's off then we
know that that needs to be corrected first before we're
going to make any progress.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, let's talk about acupuncture. How does that help?
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Acupuncture? So one of the things with the automune diseases is,
of course, oftentimes pain, discomfort, pain relief is one of
the big things that they're looking at. Analgesics, nonstuli anti
inflammatory drugs are very common to take, which all cause
issues in another themselves. Whereas with acupuncture, you know, people
(50:06):
get up and it's like, wow, I'm pain free and
the inflammation rate is down. There's huge amount of physiological
changes with that. It increases your natural opiods, it increases
it heals up the opioid receptors, you know. So looking
at that is a very important part of controlling it
(50:29):
and makes a really big difference as far as on
whether you're going to heal up or not. I've told
many of people that you know, because they were trying
to budget and not do as many too many things.
I said, well, you're going to have to do the
acupuncture really to get this under control. That's something that's
missing in our recommendation.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I got my acupuncture this week too. How about homeopathics,
how are they helpful?
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Homeopathics are in autommune diseases critical. I mean, so many
things are, but really you're not going to make the
progress and autoimmune diseases. One of the real keys that
we have is that there's an herb called thunderguide vine,
and it has been something that in a herbal type
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of form is actually an immune suppressant. So in erbals
you can use that for immune suppressant, but if you
make it into a homeopathic, which we do, it's actually
immune stimulant.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Wow. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
So the thunder guide vine any autoimmune diseases, we always
check to see if that works, and as soon as
we start to give that that homeopathic, we see dramatic
changes in the immune system and in the symptoms. So
that's sort of like one of our real big therapies
along those lines.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Mm hmm. And I love the name thundergud vine.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I know, but I mean there's a ton of different
homeopathics that we use. We can even target, you know,
specifically on the process itself, the organs. So homeopathy, there's
three thousand classical homeopathics that we can utilize, and then
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there's sarcodes no sodes. In other words, there's literally millions
of combinations that we can use on homeopathy and homeopathy.
If you are not getting treated with homeopathy, you're probably
not going to get your autommune system under control.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
How important it is.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
That's how important it is. But I mean, all these
things are really critical for each one.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, and we have a little over a minute. I
want to make sure you cover what you want to cover.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Probably one of the biggest things is the gi I'd
already mentioned that sony eighty percent of immune systems around
there am on the gut, around the gut, and I'll
probably seventy eighty percent of all autoimmune diseases start in
the gut, So autoimmune diseases in the gut. Looking at
that carefully, one example that we had is we had
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a young man who came in is in his thirties,
just been through an awful lot of stress and infections,
and he had Manair's disease. With you know, the the
rain in the years tonight's and he was literally suicidal.
So they had suggested immunosuppressant, shoot it into the ear
(53:27):
as an alternative in there and taking it early. And
they're like, you know, is this something? And I told
him that it was an immune suppressant, what kind of
effects And he said that doesn't sound good. I'm pretty young.
Matter of fact, the doctor said, if you can find
an alternative to this, that would be the best thing
to do. So we've treated him for about three months
and completely cleared him out. Wow, And he was just
(53:49):
absolutely thrilled that he could get his life back. So
that's just another type of thing that you look at.
But really the doctor had nothing but immune and suppressant
to Actually there are other ternity structure function. It makes
a huge difference.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
All right, Thank you doctor Prey there.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Thank you, Lisa.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
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Hi, I'm Lisa Preither, and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. We're talking today about beyond immunosuppressants, autoimmune alternatives,
and doctor Prether, what are autoimmune diseases?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, interestingly enough, of course, autoimmune diseases. That's where I
got into alternative healthcare what people would consider as far
as my healthcare journey, because I had an autoimmune disease
called Graves disease which caused a whole series of problems
in my health and was able through structure function care
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to be able to get rid of it, which was very,
very beneficial. So autoimmune diseases is something that I look
at real carefully and very much involved with. But if
you're trying to understand what an autoimmune disease, a good
way to put it is that you have a castle,
which is your body a castle castle, So think of
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it as a castle, and then you have your soldiers
out there, and you have invaders coming in attacking the castle,
and your soldiers are fighting, and then all of a sudden,
your soldiers start to attack the castle. So that's an
autoimmune disease where your own soldiers are starting to attack
(01:41):
different parts of your body. So, in other words, your
own defensive systems becomes the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Right right, I've always heard it's like, yeah, your body's
fighting itself.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's fighting itself.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So what are examples of autoimmune diseases?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Well, there are quite a few different areas, Like if
it's an automune, and they're named according to the area
that's being attacked. Oh interesting, So joints in muscle, and
there's about one hundred and fifteen different autoimmune diseases out there,
and I'm not going to name.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Them all, one hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
One hundred and fifteen. Some of them I can't even pronounce.
So I'll hit some of that lot. Yeah, so you've
got joints in muscles, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, mylesitis are some
of the ones. Skin and blood vessels, shorgan syndrome, psoriasis,
aureatic arthritis, vitaligo, you're looking at digestive siliac disease, crones,
(02:39):
all sort of colitis, the ENDERCN system. Type one diabetes
is an autoimmune disease. Addison's disease, hashimotives, thyroiditis, and Graves disease.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
E Graves is what you have, and that's what I have.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And then we also have the nervous system multiple sclerosis, miosenia, gravis,
Gillan beret on and on.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, that's interesting that those autoimmune diseases are classified like that,
like joints and muscle, elstrification, digestive.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Right, so you can actually go through all of them
and those are the areas that they actually attack. And
interestingly enough, as you're dealing with autoimmune diseases, basically what
you're trying to do is, of course get the immune
system to quit attacking your body.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So what causes autoimmune disease?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That is an interesting type of thing, and this has
a lot to do with the whole process of how
you approach it. So medically, when you're talking about disease care,
which we'll define a little bit, but disease care basically
says it doesn't really matter, it's just trying to get
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it to stop. Now, for structure function care, the cause
is very important because as you can take care of
the cause, you can actually usually stop the attack. So
for type one diabetes, Usually what happens is that there's
a virus that goes into the pancreas basically the eyelets
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of longer hons, and a good way to describe that
is that the immune system is trying to get to
the virus and it destroys the islets of longer hans
in meantime. So it can be infections, viral, bacterial, parasitic, fungal,
all can kind of kick off and autoimmune disease. You
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can also have heavy metals is another cause of autoimmune disease.
It can be stress, anything that puts an increased stressor
on the immune system where the immune system becomes worn down.
And as it becomes worn down, it's like, you know,
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you've got troops out there and they're fighting a battle
and they become sort of like shell shock would be
a way to put it, and so they no longer
work properly and start to attack things that are them.
The whole thing that's really important on the immune system
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is that the immune systems able to differentiate between foreign
invaders and you. And so what happens is that being
able to differentiate on that is lost on the immune system,
and then it starts to think that the body itself
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is a foreign invader. Like one of the things is fibromyalgia.
Fibromyalga is an autoimmune disease of the lymphatic tissue. And
basically what happens is you've got a very very toxic
lymphatic system that the body starts to think is a
foreign invader and starts to attack it. So you know,
you can start to see sort of the mattern along
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those lines and how you need to approach it to
get the body to start working correctly.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's interesting. You know the causes you said, viral, bacterial, stress.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Stress, anything that puts extra stress on the immune.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
System heavy metals.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, A big area is the gut. If something goes wrong,
eighty to seventy percent of the immune systems around the gut.
So the gut plays a huge role in autoimmune disease.
That's one thing that we always talk about. So there
can be all sorts of infections or dysbiosis. In other words,
you know, looking for what is it that's actually gone
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wrong with the system is one of the most important
things in structure function care for autoimmune disease.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, and I know we're going to talk about this later.
But it's so important to clear out those infections Oh yeah, yeah,
that are in your body and know about them first
of all. So how common are autoimmune diseases?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well, interestingly enough, there's about we got about three hundred
and thirty million people in the United States, and about
fifty million of them have a diagnosed autoimmune disease. Wow,
which is a very high number.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And it's interesting that you know that many people are
actually suffering from it, so it is a very very
big problem. And what they find is that sixty five
percent of the people who are diagnosed with autoimmune diseases
have just one of them, twenty four percent have two,
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two eight percent have three, and two percent have four more.
So you can actually have more than one autoimmune disease
going on at a time.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah. Real interesting. I remember when I was working with
neuro patients back when I just got out of college.
I mean again, but Ray, some of these are pretty
recent diagnosis. Yeah, yeah, you know, so is there new
autoimmune disease?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
There are? And one of the biggest things is that
autoimmune diseases are a really growing problem. Like kids back
in our days, you know, none of the kids had
autoimmune diseases now. It's a very growing number of kids
that are having autoimmune diseases now and the numbers of
(08:22):
people that are having it. So one of the things
is that there's obviously some environmental and stress, you know,
in other words, our society is getting sicker and it's
becoming much more of a problem in each of these
different areas.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So who is most likely to get autoimmune diseases?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Well, it's interesting because it's a two to one ratio
on females, so more females are likely to get autoimmune
diseases than males. They've come up with several different theories
along those lines. There are thoughts that maybe men are underdiagnosed,
but right now it does appear that females actually have
(09:06):
a two to one ratio on that that could be
because of the double X. They think there could be
like a genetic type of thing that might be different causes.
But there's a lot of different theories on that women
in general have a lower white blood cell count than
the interesting oftentimes and show up that they have a
(09:30):
weakened immune system at a greater rate than men do.
So exactly why that is. Part of it could be
the hormone cycle. You know, also they may have a
compromise immune system carrying children that they have to be
more forgiving for. You know, there's a lot of different
(09:51):
types of theories on that, we're not really quite sure.
And then also the peak age for autoimmune diseases and
then it kind of tapers off after that sixty five,
So that's the peak ain, that's the peak age when
people actually get an automune.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Disease, okay, and then tapers off.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Then it tapers off as you go along, but it
goes the younger you are, the less likely you are
to have them, up until the age of sixty five,
and that's when it seems to be the most prevalent racially.
It's interesting because different types of autoimmune diseases have different
(10:30):
racial characteristics as far as who gets it more than
others HM, which is rather interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, we can talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 2 (13:34):
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Speaker 1 (13:40):
Let's talk about that with their effects.
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The most common one about I think almost eighty percent,
is because of osteoarthritis. The problem with nonstureidal anti inflammatory
drugs is that it causes osteoarthritis. Let me repeat this.
Non story l anti inflammatory drugs actually cause osteoarthritis. So
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if you didn't have osteoarthritis and you started taking non
story lantine inflammatory drugs, within about six months, you will
have osteoarthritis.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And how does it do that?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
It destroys the cartilage in the joints. If you take
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it on a daily basis and it will destroy your joints.
So it's interesting. You take opiate's for the pain and
it causes pain. You take non story lantine inflammatory drugs
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it destroy your joints, but it also causes kidney, liver
damage and other different types of issues. Where I've had
people who were basically ready to go on dialysis because
they were taking nonstoryal anti inflammatory drugs for their oustereoarthritis.
Wo oh. We sit there and say, well, you know
(15:02):
you've got to stop those, and they're like, well I can't,
I'm in too much pain. I said, well, we can
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the osteoarthritis and take down the pain. That works much
better than the drugs.
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Praise of Holistic Integration, the most comprehensive wellness center in
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the Midwest. I'm talking today about beyond immunosuppressants autoimmune alternatives. So,
doctor Prayther, what are immune suppressants?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So, immune suppressants are drugs that are designed to cause
the immune system not to work as well as it.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Suppressing just like it sounds right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So the idea behind that is you have the immune
system going a little crazy. So what you do is
you go out there and shoot the crazy guys.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We have a lot of war analogies.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, we do. And basically that's what the immune system is.
The immune system. It's important to understand that we are
trying to keep our selves intact and not returning to dust,
and the world around us is trying to take us
down and turn us into dust. That's the conflict that's
(17:07):
going on, and so nature is trying to If we
aren't strong enough to resist it, then we die and
return to the earth. So immune system is to keep
us healthy, strong, so that we can resist any type
of foreign invaders when the immune system turns on you.
(17:27):
The main concept of the medical profession is symptomatology. So
what you do is you going ahead and suppress the
immune system, stop the symptoms, and then you take it
from there.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So that's what you're doing when you're.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Doing an immune suppressort. The idea is to if it's
not working right, let's just kind of kill it the
rest of the way.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
So when are immune suppressants used.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Well, immune suppressants are used in automune diseases. That's a
very common type of thing. But also one of the
things is that they're also used whenever you get a
tissue transplant or if you get a bone marrow graft
into your system. So like, as an example, I had
a patient who had a transplanted lung. You know that
(18:20):
she had had disease going on, things like that and
had someone else's lung put in her which kept her alive.
So she came in to work on her health to
kind of maintain that. So we were giving her vitamins, minerals,
things along those lines to keep her as healthy as possible.
But one of the things is we did too good
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of the job.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
You did. Okay, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, that means that it also stimulated. In other words,
we overcame the immune suppressants and her immune system started
to raise. And of course they were watching it real closely,
which they should, and they said, oh, you know, there's
a problem here. You're starting to have a read. So
we had to back off on what we were doing
(19:06):
to keep per immune system becoming too strong to actually
then reject the tissue. So that was a case that
is absolutely showing when immune suppressants really were necessary and
us making her healthy wasn't actually good. So you know,
(19:28):
those types of things can actually occur. There was another
example as we were talking about immune suppressants when I
was talking to a gentleman who came into our office
and he actually had two diagnosed autoimmune diseases too. And
we're sitting there and we were kind of getting the
(19:50):
picture on what was going on with him, and you know,
we found out that he traveled a lot and was,
you know, like a truck driver, and his main diet
was McDonald's. He would take about four beers to go
to sleep. He smoked didn't exercise.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
And he was wondering why he didn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, and we sit there and we said, now, you know,
you've got two autoimmune diseases. These are the things that
are going to need to change. And he said, no,
not doing it. He was suffering from the autoimmune diseases.
And I said, well, you know, we're probably not going
to be able to make a difference here. This particular
(20:35):
biologic that was recommended to you probably is the best
way to go, you know, because you're not really going
to be trying to.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Get to put the work into it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, yeah, it was just not there. And with the
immu suppressants, they do work, you know, they help out
with symptoms, but we'll talk a little bit about some
of the problems they're associated with that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Because we're going to talk about autoimmune righttives. But for
someone like him, right yeah, so you know that's interested.
Why did he come in, Well, well.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
He kind of you know, we wanted to see what's
an alternative because he's read some of the things that
occur with him. But you know, it was like, well,
you know, how long do you want to live to
and in other words, there are definite times for immusuppressants.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, So why are immunosuppressants used in autoimmune diseases.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, it's something that really does help out with symptomatology.
So you do get a response on that where you
know a lot of the symptomatology will go away. So
when you look at that and say, hey, I'm really
interested in getting these symptoms under control and that's your
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main goal, then immusuppressant is a very smart way to go.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
So what are some common immunosuppressants.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Well, well, of course, one of the things that's been
around forever is the corticosteroids, and that's something that is
made by the body. So what they're doing is they're
just supplying from the outside and it can help to
take down inflammation and also suppress the immune system and
get some relief. So if you have like a flare
(22:22):
up of something, taking the protocols steroid can get things
under control. If it's kind of an emergency situation where
the autoimmune disease is just is become life threatening, corticosteroid
can get that back under control. However, the more that
you take, the more likely you are to have problems,
and the less it is to work, so it's something
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that's more of an acute type of a phase. Very
important to have something that's been around for a while now.
The next one is biologics. That is a new type
of thing, and it's a classification of drugs. Basically, when
you're talking about biologics, it's already like a biologic would
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be if you got a bone marrow transplant. You know,
it's something that's actually already living and existing. So it's
a very complicated type of thing. It's not like pharmaceuticals
where you're taking petrochemicals and then shifting it to imitate
some type of chemical. The biologics are actually complicated proteins, enzymes,
(23:28):
and other different types of things that you can put
together and then have effects on the body. And it's
become sort of a cutting edge area and a very
fast growing area of healthcare, and it has all sorts
of different possibilities. I've had people who were having cancer
they were able to get a biologic and really, you know,
(23:50):
I would say it gave them about four to five
more years, So very very exciting type of things. As
far as in medicine, some of the common biologics that
they use for autommune disease is humer and remicate. Those
are ones that are very well known, so that gives
people an idea of what's involved with that. Calcineurine inhibitors
(24:14):
is another one, and that basically there are several on
those neural protopic gangraph people might be on those, and
basically what it does is it blocks T cell production,
which is part of the immune system. Ininosne nonophosphate dehydrogenase. Basically,
what it does is it keeps the cell growth from occurring.
(24:37):
So it's an inhibitor genus kinex inhibitors, which actually can
work quite a bit as far as on joints. Zogenics
is one of the ones that comes along those lines.
I'm not gonna say a lot of the names, but
there are quite a few different categories along those lines,
and they do different types of things. So it has
(24:58):
become sort of more, you know, your kind of targeting
each of the autoimmune diseases just to kind of really
hit those.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And yeah, I recognize some of these names from commercial.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Commercials, Yes, commercials every ellen by the way, I mean,
it's right now a three hundred and forty four billion
dollar industry industry is what the immuosuppressants right now?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So wow, all right, when we come back, we're going
to talk about what are the problems with immunosuppressants. We'll
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of Health Radio Detibraate the Can you explain the structure
function model and how it applies to chronic pain because
structure function care is what we do at Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Certainly, the FDA, whenever something new comes along, either a
product or a service, they divide it up into either
disease care or structure function care. Disease care is dealing
with symptomatology. Structure function care is bringing basically health back
through homeostasis and balance. So you're balancing the structure and
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the function or physiology of the body to achieve a
more healthy individual.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, and how have you seen it be effective in
helping chronic pain especially?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, it's very well known. The only way that you're
going to fix pain is through structure function care. The
disease care model is symptom based. So the disease care
model is very good good for short term types of
things or end of life. The disease care model is
not good on a long term type of basis. And
one of the things is that there was a commission
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would be the best way to approach pain because of
the opioid crisis, and they came out basically with a
structure function model. And I was very excited about that,
very surprised and very pleased. And of course they said, well,
we need to have the drug companies look it over,
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and of course they just tort all the shreds and
say that we're not putting this out. And of course
we believe in an eighty twenty split, eighty percent of
all cares should be structure function based, in twenty percent
disease care, because there are definite times where the opiods,
the nonstlanti inflammatory drugs, and steroids work very well. However,
(28:52):
when you talk about any type of long term type
of thing, really that's where structure function care should come in.
There is a tremendous amount of ability for structure function
care to fix pain right. So we need to get
the pain under control through chiropractic, acupuncture, physiotherapy, activities.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Of daily living, psycho therapy.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Physical therapy, all those types of things. That's how you
fix pain. It's very effective.
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We're talking today about beyond immunosuppressants, autoimmune alternatives, and doctor Prather,
let's talk about what are the problems with immunosuppressants.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Well, because they're immunosuppressants.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Okay, that's easy.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So part of the problem is that, well, I mean
you can't have there can be some very strong reactions
a constent, so the body can respond very negatively. So
all drugs have problems that are associated with them. The
more drugs that you take, the longer you take them,
the more likely you are to have an issue, which
is just the nature of drugs. But immune and suppressants
(31:58):
are specifically can leave you open to infections, so you know,
your ability to fight viruses, bacteria, fungal parasites go way down,
so that is a problem. One of the things is
that before you actually start that sometimes vaccinations are necessary.
(32:19):
By the way, vaccinations are under the category of biologics
because they use a part of the actually tissue. So
you know, you need to really go through that very
carefully with your provider as far as who's giving that
to you, being aware, and then you need to be
much more cautious with your health. You don't want to
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be around sick people. If you have certain types of jobs,
you know you need to kind of work with that.
So you are much more likely to get infections, You're
much more likely to get cancer because weakened immune system
is one of the things that kicks off cancer. If
you have a good, strong immune system, it'll actually keep cancer.
So whenever you have an immune suppressant. I've had people
(33:04):
come in who were on immune suppressants and then did
develop cancer, and of course that was one of the
things that was going on, and immediately they took them
off the immune suppressant, which kicked off. Of course they're
aut immune disease on top of the cancer, so it's
a you know, ongoing type of thing. You know, you
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have to try to rebuild the immune system at that point.
One of the things is probably an immune suppressant is
it helps with your symptoms now, but it definitely could
shorten your lifespan, you know, either through cancer or infections,
those types of things. And when you do go off
the immune suppressant, it can take quite a bit of
(33:47):
work to try to get your immune system working again.
So there are things to think about and really you know,
looking at and way the benefits versus the risk. One
of the things I've seen as a real problem is
that doctors are just automatically recommending an immune suppressant and
(34:08):
not really explaining the consequences of that most of the people,
because I have people come in and say, hey, you know,
I've got ara. They want me to go on this
immune you know, on this drug. And I said, well,
do you realize that's an immune suppressant?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And they said no, oh, they didn't realize that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
They didn't realize that it wasn't really explained to them,
and that you know, what does that mean? What are
the problems that are associated with that? So I'm finding
that it's not being explained. And I said, you know,
were they did they actually talk about any alternatives? And
they said, now, you know, they really didn't think there
(34:47):
were any because all they're thinking of is disease care,
not structure function care.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, well let's talk about what role can struct your
function care play and autoimmune disease.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Well, when you're reading about automune disease medically, they say
all you're doing is treating the symptoms, that there is
no hope of ever getting well. I'm a living testimony
that that's not true. I have a lot of patients
who would certainly counter that, you know, that that was
(35:20):
not true, and that basically it's just like, you know,
we have a rheumatology as far as in our building,
and we refer there quite a bit, you know, for
some of the cases for automyan disease, especially a lot
of our severe ones. And it's just like I had
one gentleman with Shorgan's disease. It was pretty severe, and
so I was also having a monitored through the rheumatology.
(35:45):
After a year of treatment, the rheumatology says, I don't
think you have it anymore. And he's like, I've never
had anyone get better before.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know, that's amazing. And we have an awful lot
of cases along those lines that prove that that's not
actually the case of You know what.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Ben't do a shout out to you. I don't do
this very often, but in the last month, we've been
out in public and you've had two past patients come
up to you saying that you've saved their lives, you know,
And I mean that just blows me away. Really. So
(36:32):
the effect that this type of healthcare structure function care,
where it can get to the root of the problem.
You know, we all want our symptoms to be better,
but if it's not getting to the root of the problem,
and that's what structure function care, why don't you define
it a little bit more. I just had to do
that little shout out.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
So structure function care is braining the body. It brings
the body to health. Health is defined by homeostasis. Basically,
the body in hemeostasis is healthy and health is balance,
and it has to be balanced both structurally, in other words,
the chiropractic, the corrective exercises, all of that is very important,
(37:18):
much more important than people realize for it. But also
then functionally where you're bringing the physiology back into play.
But the two have to work together to really be effective.
So what you do is you find out where the
body's off. Do you have heavy metals, Well, you know
we're not going to get anywhere unless we get rid
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of those. Do you have chronic infections, We need to
get those under We need to rebuild your immune system
to get that better. You have autoimmune disease that the
body is actually attacking itself, get rid of all the
things that are causing problems, rebuild the immune system, and
then things are going to work better. You know, if
your liver's not working up to part, kidneys are low,
(38:01):
you know, you have to go through the whole system
and get everything corrected and then also get rid of
the poisons in the body that's causing the issues, which
are zenobiotics. And interestingly enough, all pharmaceuticals are classed as
a zenobiotic, so oftentimes I also need to detext the
(38:23):
pharmaceuticals out of the system to be able to make
the corrections. Now, don't get me wrong, there are definite
times for the disease care model, but we look at
it as eighty percent of all healthcare should be structure
function care and twenty percent should be disease care. The
(38:46):
example that I use is that you have a football team,
and if you only have an offensive unit and no defense,
you're probably going to lose. And the reason that our
healthcare system is so screwed up in America and we
are thirty eighth out of thirty five industrialized countries for
(39:11):
healthcare is because all we've been putting our money and
effort into is offense and we don't even have a
defensive team. And if you are going to play football
like that, the Super Bowls are one with defense, and
healthcare is one with structure function care.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Hmmm, that's good. Defense wins the game.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
When wins the game.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, so you might have answered this, but what is
the goal of disease care and autumn immune disease.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Well, you know, disease care is symptom based, so all
diseases are classified according to symptoms, and symptoms can be
misleading because you could have a whole bunch of different
types of original causes that lead to those symptoms. You know,
when you're talking about symptom based type care, it's helpful
(40:01):
along those lines, But what kind of long term type
of effect does it have?
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You know, the more that you the pharmaceuticals, the number
that you take, the more likely you are to have problems.
And the longer you take them, the more likely you
are to have issues. Matter of fact, one of the
big problems that we had, we just had a patient
came in and they had twenty medications.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
That they were on, twenty medications.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Twenty medications, and it's like, you know, I'm not going
to get anywhere, you know, because it's polypharmacy. Anything right now,
over five medications is polypharmacy, and you have no idea
what is occurring on the individual. Yeah, so they're interacting, Yeah,
how they're interacting. I mean, it's just a chemical soup.
(40:45):
At that point and that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
All right. When we come back, we're going to talk
about which form of care is better to choose for
autoimmune disease and go more into the autoimmune alternatives. Will
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X ray imaging. Well, let's talk about how thorough because
you have specific X rays, especially for the neck area.
You know, people say, well, I got X rays here,
can I use them?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
We look at them and oftentimes they're not adequate, so
we need to take our own. We have our our
X rays also read for pathology by the gentleman who
wrote the textbook that is usually used in radiology, and
he said, you're in the top one percent of the
X rays that we get in the quality said if
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everybody had X rays like yours, my job would really
be so much easier. So it's gratifying on that. And
we really try to go above and beyond what's required
and really get what we need. So it's important to
be able to read them to make sure you understand
all the pathologies. And we really do a very thorough
(42:59):
job on that. We do want X rays because it
has a huge effect on how we adjust because we
need to know one, is there any pathologies that we
need to be aware of? Are there any types of
special biomechanics that are going on. It's just like we
recently had a patient who came in. Well, you know,
I've gone to four different chiropractors and I really hurt afterwards,
(43:21):
and I said, well, we'll need to do some X
rays first and see exactly what was going on. I said,
you know, what did they find on the X rays?
So well, I didn't get X rays and I said,
you know and you heard afterwards and he said yes.
So we took the X rays and he had a
spinalist thesis of L five with grade two and well, anyway,
(43:43):
in other words, he had a fracture in there where
things that slipped forward, and the type of adjustment that
was being done on him was completely contraindicated for that care.
So it's like, yeah, yeah, I bet you did hurt.
You know, there's a specialized adjustment for that. And we
did that adjustment and he goes, oh, my gosh, I
didn't even know I could feel like that again.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
And it was after the first time.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
If X rays had just been done.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
That would have been very evident and they should have
known then that you shouldn't be doing that particular type
of adjustment. That there's a specialized adjustment for that. So
we did the adjustment and he couldn't believe it. He's
been coming back and he says, I feel so amazing,
And I said, now that's what you should feel like
with chiropractic. Our patients don't feel worse. They can tell
(44:31):
a difference immediately right, And it's because we know exactly
where the misalignment is, we know how to put it
in and we get it done.
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where our mission is restoring hope to our patients. We're
talking about beyond immunosuppressants, autoimmune alternatives and digit pray. There.
What success does structure function care have with autoimmune disease?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Well, you know, when you're measuring success, the disease care
model you always get worse. So for symptom wise, they
are good, and then you know, eventually all the good
will wear out and your symptoms will come back and
you'll have problems. So it's a temporary type of symptom relief,
(45:56):
whereas with structure function care, you have the hope of
getting to the point where not only do you have
the symptoms down, but then the immune system's actually working
extremely well. Now if your immune system drops again, the
autoimmune disease will come back. So it's a long term
type of thing that you need to keep up to
keep your health going. But we've had really good success.
(46:19):
I've had people who I've taken care of for years
and years and years, you know, because I've been in
practice for forty years and had people work for me,
and you know, I mean one of my long term
employees was a gal who had lupus and she had
come in to me as a patient back when I
first opened up and got her loopus under control, and
(46:41):
then we hired as an employee, worked like fifteen years
for us, yeah, and then eventually retired and we still
see her whenever her loopus flares up, you know, to
keep that under cont.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
And she's in her eighties and yeah, the circles around people.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yes, she does, she does. So, you know, and I
could talk about case after case like that where we've
even had people who seem to be completely in remission
and not taking any pharmaceuticals for it. So, you know,
the only way that you're going to make headway in
a autoimmune disease is through structure function care.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
So let's talk about how important diagnostics are in structure
function care.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Well even more so than in disease care. Because disease care,
once you establish what the disease is, it doesn't really
matter that they basically watch blood work to make sure
that the pharmaceuticals aren't causing more damage than they're helping.
So that would be the goal along those lines. But
for us, we're trying to find all the things that
(47:44):
could have gone wrong with the system that cause the
autoimmune disease. You know, we're checking for heavy metals, infections
the gut, we're checking the blood work. You know, we
need to know what is off on the system and
what needs to be corrected. And then the body is
really the hero. It's like, what are you giving me
(48:05):
for my autommune disease, and it's just like, well, you
know all the things that you need to be healthy.
You know, the healthier If you are a healthy person
who's in homeostasis, which means you're in balance, you wouldn't
have on autoimmune disease, you would be able to fight
off infections, you would be working correctly. So looking at
(48:27):
all the things that are involved in that are extremely important.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Well, let's talk about the different areas of structure function
care and how they help autoimmune disease. Let's start with chiropractic.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Well, one of the most important things for me was
getting my atlas fixed. That's why I became an antlys orthogonist.
So the atlas controls the lower brainstem, which controls the
autonomic nervous system, which controls everything else. So if you
don't have the nervous system correct, it's going to be
(48:59):
very very well, it's going to be almost next to
impossible to be able to get over an automune disease
or make progress in your health. So for everyone, making
sure that their ATLAS is in place is a very
critical type of thing for autommune disease. And then also
working with the rest of the spine as it makes
(49:20):
its corrections. But the ATLAS is key for overall health
and well being. It controls the vegus nerve per sympathetic
sympathetic balance, one of the things we do as an
autonomic nervous system test, and if it's off then we
know that that needs to be corrected first before we're
going to make any progress.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, let's talk about acupuncture. How does that help?
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Acupuncture? So one of the things with the automune diseases is,
of course, oftentimes pain, discomfort, pain relief is one of
the big things that they're looking at. Analgesics, nonstuli anti
inflammatory drugs are very common to take, which all cause
issues in another themselves. Whereas with acupuncture, you know, people
(50:06):
get up and it's like, wow, I'm pain free and
the inflammation rate is down. There's huge amount of physiological
changes with that. It increases your natural opiods, it increases
it heals up the opioid receptors, you know. So looking
at that is a very important part of controlling it
(50:29):
and makes a really big difference as far as on
whether you're going to heal up or not. I've told
many of people that you know, because they were trying
to budget and not do as many too many things.
I said, well, you're going to have to do the
acupuncture really to get this under control. That's something that's
missing in our recommendation.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I got my acupuncture this week too. How about homeopathics,
how are they helpful?
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Homeopathics are in autommune diseases critical. I mean, so many
things are, but really you're not going to make the
progress and autoimmune diseases. One of the real keys that
we have is that there's an herb called thunderguide vine,
and it has been something that in a herbal type
(51:17):
of form is actually an immune suppressant. So in erbals
you can use that for immune suppressant, but if you
make it into a homeopathic, which we do, it's actually
immune stimulant.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Wow. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
So the thunder guide vine any autoimmune diseases, we always
check to see if that works, and as soon as
we start to give that that homeopathic, we see dramatic
changes in the immune system and in the symptoms. So
that's sort of like one of our real big therapies
along those lines.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Mm hmm. And I love the name thundergud vine.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I know, but I mean there's a ton of different
homeopathics that we use. We can even target, you know,
specifically on the process itself, the organs. So homeopathy, there's
three thousand classical homeopathics that we can utilize, and then
(52:15):
there's sarcodes no sodes. In other words, there's literally millions
of combinations that we can use on homeopathy and homeopathy.
If you are not getting treated with homeopathy, you're probably
not going to get your autommune system under control.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
How important it is.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
That's how important it is. But I mean, all these
things are really critical for each one.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, and we have a little over a minute. I
want to make sure you cover what you want to cover.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Probably one of the biggest things is the gi I'd
already mentioned that sony eighty percent of immune systems around
there am on the gut, around the gut, and I'll
probably seventy eighty percent of all autoimmune diseases start in
the gut, So autoimmune diseases in the gut. Looking at
that carefully, one example that we had is we had
(53:06):
a young man who came in is in his thirties,
just been through an awful lot of stress and infections,
and he had Manair's disease. With you know, the the
rain in the years tonight's and he was literally suicidal.
So they had suggested immunosuppressant, shoot it into the ear
(53:27):
as an alternative in there and taking it early. And
they're like, you know, is this something? And I told
him that it was an immune suppressant, what kind of
effects And he said that doesn't sound good. I'm pretty young.
Matter of fact, the doctor said, if you can find
an alternative to this, that would be the best thing
to do. So we've treated him for about three months
and completely cleared him out. Wow, And he was just
(53:49):
absolutely thrilled that he could get his life back. So
that's just another type of thing that you look at.
But really the doctor had nothing but immune and suppressant
to Actually there are other ternity structure function. It makes
a huge difference.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
All right, Thank you doctor Prey there.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Thank you, Lisa.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
Holistic Integration is located at eighty nine oh two North
Meridian Street on the north side of Indianapolis, just south
of the I four sixty five loop. If we can
help you to achieve better health, we'd love to hear
from you. Connect with our office at three one seven
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