May 3, 2025 • 55 mins
This week, Dr. Prather talks about the importance of the Autonomic Nervous System to our health and how to achieve a proper balance between the Parasympathetic and Sympathetic Nervous Systems. In this episode, you'll learn:
—How Dr. Prather only finds about 10-15% of patients have a properly-balanced Autonomic Nervous System. And how "basically 100% of patients" were imbalanced during COVID, a trend which has continued.
—Why the proper balance is 80% of our time should be in the Parasympathetic (Rest and Digest) mode and 20% of the time in the Sympathetic (Fight or Flight) mode.
—The "freeze" mechanism that Dr. Prather has seen in patients where they get so stressed that they can’t even function.
—Why Dr. Prather says an imbalance in the Autonomic Nervous System can kick off "all" health issues, symptoms, and diseases. And the Autonomic Nervous System test at Holistic Integration that measures the function of the Vagus Nerve and the balance of the spinal cord between the Parasympathetic and Sympathetic systems.
—The test Dr. Prather does on the Levator Scapulae to determine a patient's stress levels.
—The deep-breathing and eye exercises which help regulate the Vagus Nerve. And the benefits of humming, gargling, cold showers, and exercise for your Vagus Nerve.
—The Atlas Orthogonal Chiropractic Adjustment that is a specialty at Holistic Integration which Dr. Prather says is "the most important thing you can do for your health" and is the most important treatment to balance out the Autonomic Nervous System.
—How Acupuncture can "immediately" decrease the Cortisol stress hormone and increase the "feel good" Oxytocin hormone.
—The symptoms of Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS). And why Dr. Prather says the Atlas "is the biggest thing we can do to improve that" and that "you are never going to be able to fix POTS without the Atlas being set into its proper position".
—Plus, we're joined by Angie Nuttle of the VIP Center for Businesswomen to talk about their upcoming "VIP Week" where our own Lisa Prather will be speaking. Learn more about VIP Week at https://www.vipcenter.works/vipweek .
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—How Dr. Prather only finds about 10-15% of patients have a properly-balanced Autonomic Nervous System. And how "basically 100% of patients" were imbalanced during COVID, a trend which has continued.
—Why the proper balance is 80% of our time should be in the Parasympathetic (Rest and Digest) mode and 20% of the time in the Sympathetic (Fight or Flight) mode.
—The "freeze" mechanism that Dr. Prather has seen in patients where they get so stressed that they can’t even function.
—Why Dr. Prather says an imbalance in the Autonomic Nervous System can kick off "all" health issues, symptoms, and diseases. And the Autonomic Nervous System test at Holistic Integration that measures the function of the Vagus Nerve and the balance of the spinal cord between the Parasympathetic and Sympathetic systems.
—The test Dr. Prather does on the Levator Scapulae to determine a patient's stress levels.
—The deep-breathing and eye exercises which help regulate the Vagus Nerve. And the benefits of humming, gargling, cold showers, and exercise for your Vagus Nerve.
—The Atlas Orthogonal Chiropractic Adjustment that is a specialty at Holistic Integration which Dr. Prather says is "the most important thing you can do for your health" and is the most important treatment to balance out the Autonomic Nervous System.
—How Acupuncture can "immediately" decrease the Cortisol stress hormone and increase the "feel good" Oxytocin hormone.
—The symptoms of Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS). And why Dr. Prather says the Atlas "is the biggest thing we can do to improve that" and that "you are never going to be able to fix POTS without the Atlas being set into its proper position".
—Plus, we're joined by Angie Nuttle of the VIP Center for Businesswomen to talk about their upcoming "VIP Week" where our own Lisa Prather will be speaking. Learn more about VIP Week at https://www.vipcenter.works/vipweek .
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, I'm Lisa Praither and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. Today we're talking about calming the storm within
fight or flight to rest and digest and so Dutch prayther.
(00:33):
We're going to talk about the autonomic nervous system ans
and how it works. But before that, I want to
ask you people coming into holistic integration, you know, and
you're looking at lab work and our autonomic nervous system
test results, what percentage of people would you say have
(00:53):
a properly balanced autonomic nervous system.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Ten maybe fifteen percent? You know, people are caught in
the sympathetic mode.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Mm hmm. Yeah, that's interesting. Has that changed over your
thirty plus almost forty years of practice.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, it's interesting that during COVID it basically became one
hundred percent of the people that were off. Yeah, just
because of the stress level. And the stress level is
still more than it was before that. There's a lot
more conflict, there's a lot more negativity, and you know,
just a lot of division and people can feel that
(01:31):
and so yeah, people are much more in the sympathetic
mode than they were before.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, and that's fair flight.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, all this stuff happened, mm hmm. Yeah, so twenty
nineteen was kind of an interesting shift.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, and we're going to talk about how we treat
it and how we diagnose it. But let's talk about
what it is. What is the autonomic nervous system and
how does it work and why is it vital to
you know, human survival.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's basically, you know, sort of the balance of the body.
We talk about homeostasis, which is balance, and homeostasis is
also health. So having your balance in your body. The
sympathetic is you know, to get you revved up and
get things done. Parasympathetic is the healing aspect, you know,
(02:23):
like you talked about the rest and digest and so
being able to have a balance along those lines. And
the balance is eighty percent of our time should be
more in parasympathetic, twenty percent in sympathetic, and that's actually
a proper balance where we have the stimulation that we
(02:44):
need which really helps to get things done. And then
the parasympathetic where we actually build up our immune system,
digest our food, we rest and regenerate and that's where
we're really people have really missed.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Out right, and we're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, there's a lot of people who are just completely
stuck in the sympathetic mode, and they're wondering why their
digestive system isn't working right, why they're immune systems weak,
why they don't sleep well, why they don't feel well,
why they're fatigued, And it's because their parasympathetic is just
(03:24):
kind of shot and it's all sympathetic is how they're
operating on their lives. You know, that type a personality
that we you.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Know, I know very well.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I know it very well. I kind of live it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean, you know, even in Biblical it's like, you know,
you need the day of rest Sabbath, and accomplishing that
and helping to balance that out is one of the
important things in homeostasis because it affects every single organ
in our body. If we're stuck in.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
That, Yeah, I guess we can give an example myself, right,
That's probably why we're doing this. I want clarity, more
understanding because I think I've been in a sympathetic mode
for a while. Something happened over a year ago, and
I've just been driving through it. You know, I'm a
(04:14):
type a ask anybody that knows me, and you know me,
well you're married to me. I'm the sympathetic, you're the parasympathy.
Last week, actually I was out in the reception room
talking to a patient and I stood up and felt
(04:35):
like I was gonna faint, and you all got me
on the table and took my blood pressure, which I
have excellent blood pressure usually when twenty over sixty, and
it was one eighty over ninety, put some acupuncture needles
and then you said, my atlas, my neck, my cervical
was out, which had a big, big part of that.
(05:00):
And I've been having you know, little what I would
call panic attacks, which I didn't know they were sure.
So it's just interesting as I study. It took forty
five minutes to get my blood pressure back to one
twenty over sixty. But I'm starting to do and we're
going to talk about the vagual nerve and how important
it is, and these resets and exercises that are helping me,
(05:25):
and some decisions I had to make, you know, lifestyle decisions.
You know, what is it that's keeping me in this
sympathetic What environments am I in what things you have
to change, What things I have to change, which we
are doing. So I'm living this out everything we're talking about.
But I realized because of my symptoms, so much of
(05:48):
it is living in this sympathetic that you know caused
my high blood pressure, sure, because it affects the blood
vessels and too much overaction the sympathetic right constricts them, right, Yeah,
and blood pressure is part of that.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, it's It's a really important type of thing because
you know, you have the fight to flight and then
if you get real severe, you have paralysis. You know,
where you you freeze, so fight flight freeze freeze. That
freeze is even worse. And we see people who come
in who are in that frozen type of state where
(06:24):
they're just not able to function at all.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
What does that look like, Well.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's interesting, you know, like possums, they play dead, they
fall over. That's sort of a heightened freeze type of
a mechanism. But one of the things that it was
sort of out there is when some big tiger comes in,
the bigger the tiger is the worse it is. So
if it comes in and it looks like you can
(06:49):
fight it, then you go on ahead, and you know,
it tells you to go on ahead and attack it.
If it's like kind of you know, medium you sit
there and you say, well, I think I can run,
and then I run, or it's I freeze and hopefully
he doesn't notice.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Me, doesn't eat me.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Right, So in the freezing mechanism is actually a survival
type of thing. There was one guy who sit there
and he said he was a hunter, and this mountain
lion came down and he just kind of stopped in
his tracks and didn't move and the mountain lion walked
past and didn't notice him. Wow, So I mean the
freeze is actually something that's helpful. Yeah. I've even seen it,
(07:31):
like a dog get really scared and just lock up
and then fall over. If you've ever seen that, that's
the freeze mechanism and cartoons. Well, no, it's actually in
real life. But I have had patients who are just
basically frozen. You know, they're not able to do anything.
They're just so stressed that they can't even function. And
(07:55):
so you know, that's actually one of the further steps.
So trying to get people out of it, that's an
important type of thing.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that. So let's talk
about the autonomic nervous system is always, you know, as
often referred as automatic. Why is that?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well, you don't want to have to think about your
heart I forgot to make my heart beat. That's not good, right,
Or you have to think about digesting your food or
breathing or all the chemical changes that take place. You know,
you can't think about those types of things. Yeah, you know,
if you forget, I mean, you know sometimes I think
if my head wasn't attached, you know, it's cost of
(08:32):
right now, because I'm thinking about so many other things.
And so you want to have things that actually operate
without your thought process. So having that autonomic nervous system
where it actually runs on its own is something that
is very helpful, but it is nice to be able
to control it somewhat.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, Well, how does that ans interact with the underconsystem.
We talked about the underconsystem last week, So how does
it interact?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, there are hormones that are basically more sympathetic based,
which is fight flight, and then you have the ones
that are more rest and digest. Two examples of that
sort of the most extreme ones are cortisol, which is
the sympathetic kind of gets you up and going, adrenaline
type of thing. And then you have oxytocin, which is
(09:26):
sort of the feel good hormone. One thing that they
find that when you pick up a baby and hold
a baby, all of a sudden there's a release of oxytocin.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So I hold babies on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, it's your oxytocin toes. So having those and kind
of increasing we have plenty of cortisol and adrenaline kind
of rushing through our bodies. We know how to do that,
but actually how to get the feel good hormones is
one of the big things that we need to actually
push on. And the parasympathetic and sympathetic are all interact
(10:00):
acting with that. The nervous system stimulates the indercon and
hormonal system, and then the endercn and hormonal system effects
the nervous system. Those are the two controlling things. And
that's the thing I tell people. The first thing we
need to do is get your nervous system and your
hormones balance out. Yeah, because it controls everything else.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, Like for example, my antliss was out, so we
put my antless in and big difference, you know, a
big change and then I did some vaguel nerve exercises,
which we're going to talk about next. Okay, we'll be
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Speaker 2 (11:05):
It was invented by a chiropractor, and chiropractors actually are
really quite innovative and they've come up with quite a
few devices. So chiropractors obviously were the first ones to
start using it. Physical therapists, occupational therapists, massage therapists are
also using. Athletic trainers in NFL, NBA, NHL, PGA, so
it's very important for sports. A lot of Olympic athletes
(11:27):
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so for sports for recovery even after surgeries. Heady clinics
are using it.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I've even taking a softer head over someone's cranium and
that back occiput area. Sure, and you know we have
sutures in our skull and work the sutures with it.
The headache. People just love that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Do you just see people kind of drifting off? Uh
huh so during the treatment if you're not careful, I mean,
people are just going to fall asleep on you.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
That's all right, TMJ. Using that small yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
On temperomandibular joint syndrome can be very, very devastating to people.
Getting that under control can really help out. One of
the things that's very interesting is that we used it
for people with depression. Even one of the things that
occurs with depression. Pain can kind of kick that off.
And then also the levator scapula. As you release that,
then all of a sudden people can start breathing.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
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Speaker 2 (12:25):
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Speaker 4 (13:05):
What is tested in this Autonomic Nervous System.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Test, Well, what's great about the ANS test is researchers
use that to evaluate the nervous system and the circulatory
system and the heart function. So it can actually show
up all three in a very precise type of way,
and we can see things that you know, if you're
getting evaluated, even by your top cardiologist, you're not getting
that information. The closest place that has that particular test
(13:32):
besides our place, is over in Saint Louis. It's at
a research hospital. So we offer it here in Indianapolis
at at Holistic Integration. But it is something that is
extremely complete and gives a tremendous amount of information. But
it's going to give a picture on your cardiovascular health
and your nervous system health like nothing else.
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(14:15):
the most comprehensive wellness center in the Midwest, and we're
talking about calming the storm within fight or flight to
rest and digest, and I guess we should say fight
or flight or freeze, right, Yeah, but we're going to
talk about the vangel nerve. A lot going on. We're
(14:36):
hearing a lot about the vangel nerve. So doctor Prayther,
when the autonomic nervous system is out of balance, what
kinds of health issues, symptoms or diseases are kicked off?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
All of them, all the above. So you know, your heart,
you know, just speaking about that determines your heart rate.
It determines if it's off on its rhythm, so rhythm
heart rate. The health of the heart, you know, eventually
is determinive by the nervous system, constriction of the blood vessels.
(15:08):
When you actually need some extra blood, the blood vessels
will actually constrict. But if it stays like that, then
you get hypertension. A matter of fact, one of the
things that they found is that the atlyss adjustment has
a huge effect on hypertension.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So, and you know, there's an awful lot of neurology
that actually shows that up your lungs, how deep you
breathe is all affected by the sympathetic pair sympathetic.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, when you're in sympathetic more of that rapid breathing.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Rapid breathing, which you know determines how long you live,
how deep you breathe, which is basically a measurement of
whether you're allowing yourself to go into pair sympathetic mode.
So sympathetic your digestion, that's basically has to do with
your stress levels. You know, whether you're able to digest
your food, your sleep patterns, your immune.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
System, so muscle tension.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, it's just goes on and on. Exactly what is
involved with that. All the things that can go wrong
with your body can be initiated by stress, Yeah, and
your body not being able to handle it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, I know, in that sympathetic mode, you go into
a heightened awareness. You know that's kind of you're in
this heightened awareness, but you know you don't need to
be in heightened awareness of the time. Just twenty percent. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, I mean I've taken martial arts and they teach
you to go as on your fighting, to go into
an extreme parasympathetic mode and actually your awareness is even greater.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh really interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Because then you're more focused, you're able to there's a
whole training that they go through in how to control
your nervous system because the person who is dependent upon
the fight flight is easy to defeat.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah. Well that must have really worked for you, because
I know what you go through every day, and you know,
I don't see you in a sympathetic mode. You know,
you're stay nice and steady, rest and digest parasympathetic. Sure,
so do you think that's done?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yes, most helpful.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, that trained me quite well. I do tai chi,
which actually it's a completely parasympathetic fighting art.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, that's a good way to put it, right. Yeah.
And also, I mean I see you deep breathing throughout
the day, right. Yeah. You've had a couple of patients
complaining because they said you'd breathe too loudly. It's funny
that I'd.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Breathe much more loudly when I'm taking care of them
than in other people. So what does that mean what
does that mean?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yea, well, let's talk about the vegas nerve. You know,
you're seeing a lot of articles posted on the vegas nerve.
What is the vegas nerve and why is it important?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, it's an upper motor, so it doesn't go through
the spinal cord, so you have the sympathetic para sympathetic
that's actually within the spinal cord. But the vegas nerve
actually comes down from the skull itself. So well, I
mean it's called the vegas nerve because it wanders. It
controls the heart, it controls the lungs, it controls the digestion.
(18:30):
It has a huge effect on all those types of
things along with nerves coming from the spinal cord.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, it got its name because it wanders like a vagabond,
right right, And it's the longest cranial nerve right yeah. Interesting,
And you're right like it goes from the brainstem to
your visceral organs.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Sure, yeah, and it's a very that and then the
spinal cord nerves they work together to control all those
autonomic systems at work without your thought process. And so
the vegas nerve is extremely important and that's one of
the things that we measure in our office. We measure
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the function of the vegas nerve and the balance of
the spinal cord between the sympathetic pair sympathetic and then
one of the things is that shows us that we
need to get those things fixed or not.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what the autonomic nervous system trusting. Yeah.
Real interesting too, because they're seeing that the vegus nerve
prevents inflammation, It tells the lungs to breathe. The vegas
nerve controls your heart rate, it initiates relaxation after stress.
It let's your gut talk to your brain, and overstimulation
(19:44):
of the vegas nerve is the most common cause of fainting.
Those were some of the issues you know that I
had that I felt like I was gonna faint. Right,
we're going to talk about ways to regulate that vegas nerve.
So you have found that through you're deep breathing, sure
and deeping is very important.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Eye exercises, there's a lot of different types of ways
that you can work with that. Yeah, but being able
to do that is a very important part of maintaining
health and wellness and actually being able to function.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, And what about the vegus nerve? Does it affect
neural transmitters and how they function?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Of course, so there's a definite change in the neurochemistry
when you go from a parasympathetic to sympathetic mode. And
again it's all a balance. It's not like one's bad.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
The sympathetic nervousism isn't bad. You should be in it
about twenty percent. That's a good balance. So there are
times where you should have, like an increase in heart rate.
There should be, you know, some aspects of that in
your life, but it shouldn't be a predominant type of thing.
And a very easy way to kind of tell how
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you're doing is the lead evader scalpulous. Ah, yes, right,
it's on that shoulder muscle right up in there, and
the tension on that upper back. Yeah, that tension up
there can really show up where you're at. And so
I can kind of test on people, and I have
a when I first examine them, I pretty well know
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how much in sympathetic mode they are and how much
they are as far as imparasympathetic just by touching their shoulders,
the top of their shoulders. That will tell me quite
a bit of what's happening.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, that's interesting. And you can watch people breathing too,
you know, if they're breathing rapidly a lot from their chest. Sure, yeah,
that's important. Yeah, let's talk about the you know, the
natural vegus nerve stimulants. One thing I do. I go
into very sympathetic mode when I fly because I don't
(21:56):
like to fly. And if you're sitting next to me,
you'll hear me I hum. You know, if you get
nervous and humming and singing, if you're someone that likes
to do that, you know, throughout the day. Really, since
the vagus nerve is connected to the vocal cords and
the muscles at the back of your throat, it helps
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those sounds stimulate the nerves in the vagel tone. So
and that's a nice thing to do. Sure do hear
people humming like they used to gargling several times gargling
water during the day. Say, you know, when you go
to the restroom, take some water and gargle, and that
really helps again to strengthen the vaguel nerve pathways. And
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then deep and slow breathing very important. You want to
take six breasthts over a course of a minute. You
want to breathe deeply from the diaphragm. Your stomach should
come out and chests should not move. So you're breathing
in for six to eight bats and then you can
hold it six to seven and then exhale should be
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longer eight to ten beats. When I first teach people,
I call it a four by four. They're inhaling for
four when they're first learning. Someone that can't even get
the breath down, you know, to the diaphragm. Yeah, So
we start out that inhale for four and exhale and
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I have them put their hands, you know, on their tummy,
and then we go from that to a four by
seven by eight. So that's inhaling for four, hold it
for seven, and out slowly for eight. That's really important.
So deep breathing is another way to reset that vaguel
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nerve and stimulate it. Also, cold exposure just at the
end of your shower. And I know you do this,
you taught me this. You finish with cold water. You
put that on cold water that I'll stimulate the vagel nerve.
If you can finish that hot shower with thirty seconds
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of cold water that really helps, or just splashing cold
water on your face, taking ice cubes in a ziploc
bag and pull that ice against your face. Very important
to just think of that brain stem where that vague
nerve starts. So important. And then exercise. Exercise is very important,
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doing weights one to four times per week, or hide
intensity interval training one to two times per week, walks
thirty to sixty minutes. Exercise you always say it cures
worldshom Yeah. And then meditation. One thing is too that
I noticed what was causing me to go into that
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fight or flight a lot was I was listening to
the news more, which I hadn't been right, and you
just get into get sucked into it. And then I
was scrawling through reels and Facebook more than usual and
before bed.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And now there's never any confrontational things as far as
on the news or everybody's like we all love each
other and.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Just give us the news, not your opinions. But anyway,
I've backed out of that. And you know, I play
a lot of soothing music. I love the harp sound
and that really helps me. Is what I'm listening to
in the car around the house. I love to have music,
and then you know, for me, playing the piano helps
(25:43):
me just like your tai chi helps you.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, And then anything you would add, I know you
do eye movements. Do you want to talk about that
to reset that vagueal nerve?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Sure, there are a whole series of eye movements that
I was trained in to actually relax that. And the
eye movements are actually shown to be the most powerful
for the vague nerve. So meta fact, one of the
things is I used to wear glasses when I was
first married, and I did eye exercises and changed the
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shape of my eye. And now I don't need glasses anymore.
I know you don't, but that was part of the process,
and that's one of the things. If I get stressed,
I will do a series of eye exercises and that
will I can feel.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Can you talk a little bit about what you do?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Sure, I hit several different corners, So I hit eight
different corners, so I kind of look at it, you know,
as far as up to the side, and then I'll
hit those and then I'll circle my eyes one way
and circle my eyes the other. So that's fine, and
then from one side to the other.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, that's one thing that I went right to when
I was laying flat on my back. You keep your
head still well, and then you take your eyes and
move them like to the three o'clock and you hold
them there until you get some kind of response. For me,
it's usually a yawn or a sy or a cough,
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and then you know you're good there. And then you
go to the nine nine number and you hold it
and do the same and that should reset the vague
nerve and.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Actually a cough oftentimes will reset it. That's why you
will actually reset the heart.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, interesting, Okay, when we get back more on
an autonomic nervous system. So interesting, and we're going to
talk about Pot's disease. We'll be right back. Listen to
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you're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor Robert
Prather of Holistic Integration, where we get to the root
cause of your health issue. Before we talk about pots,
I want to make sure we talk about the diagnostic
that we do for the autonomic nervous system.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So we have our ans testing, that's what we call it,
and it's actually very comprehensive. Of course, the big thing
is that we're testing on the cardiovascular system, but the
portion on that for testing on the vagus nerve and
the balance between the autonomic nervous system is very critical
because that plays a huge role as far as on
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the heart. The neurology of the heart is basically what
we're looking at, but of course that measures how it's
affecting the whole rest of the system. So it's a
very simple test, takes about fifteen minutes and it's nothing invasive.
It's basically an electrical where we put a little pad
on you and then blood pressure cuffs and then you
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do a different type of breathing, you actually stand up,
and then it measures all the different types of effects.
It is a research grade test, so it's very accurate
and gives us a tremendous amount of information. It does
give the gold standard for testing for pots.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
M h.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah. Before we talk on pots, let's talk about the
other services that we offered holistic integration that really assist
not only in pots, but in balancing the pair of
sympathetic and the sympathetic. And you talked about one is
the atlas.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
The most important thing is the atlice. When I first
went into was going into chiropractic school, I said, what's
the most important adjustment. Every chiropractor said, the autlice, you know,
has the huge effect on the system. And I also asked,
what's the most difficult adjustment to make, and they said,
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without doubt, it's the atlas. Matter of fact, some techniques
actually tell you to keep away from it because it's
so very very small, but a little bit of movement
has a huge effect on the system. I said, who
actually does it the best? And everyone pretty much said
doctor Roy Sweat, And he was developing the atlas orthogonal
technique as I was down there. So I was actually
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in the very first class of that technique and it
is recognized by many different types of chiropractic systems as
the go to for difficult ATLAS situations. And so like,
one of the things that you had is that you
were caught in a very sympathetic mode, and that is
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probably the reason that your atlas went out in the
first place. Stress intention is one of the things that
kicks it out. But then to be able to relieve it,
you need to put it back in position. And we
can take pre impost autonomic nervous system tests and see
that the vegus nerve is improved quite dramatically as soon
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as we do that adjustment, and then also the balance
between the parasympathetic and sympathetic comes back into a normal type.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Of Actually, just see my breathing changed.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Everything changes. The thing that I tell people, the one
thing that I can do to make the biggest difference
in your health and well being is setting that atlas
into its proper position, because it affects the nervous system
that controls everything else. So it affects the immune system,
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It affects your heart, it affects your lungs, your digestion,
all those different types of things are changed by that
Atlas adjustment, and it is the most important thing that
you can possibly do for your health and well being.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah. The other thing, let's talk about acupuncture. That was
also done when I went through this episode. Sure, and
then we followed that with the adjustment. How does acupuncture help?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Well, they have done studies on acupuncture. As they were
drawing the blood and what were the levels of the
cortisol and the oxytocin before acupuncture. As they do the acupuncture,
immediately they can see a decrease in the cortisol levels
and an increase in the oxytocin. So all the underconsystem
(35:29):
actually changes with the acupuncture. People ask me, how does
that happen. I'm not quite sure. We have theories on it,
but it does affect the electromagnetic energy of the body.
And I've had people who sit there and I think
of there was one goal. She didn't speak English, and
her daughter, who did speak English, was with us. She
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came in because three months she hadn't slept three months,
three months, and she was beside herself. Things weren't working,
Pharmaceuticals weren't work, and they were talking about putting her
into the Struss Center, and I said, well, you know,
we need to do a thorough evaluation. In the meantime,
let's do some acupuncture. She goes, oh, she just freaks
(36:12):
out over needles, you know, and you could see her
eyes get big when I talked about it. And I
sat there and I said, well, you know, they're basically
like little filaments and you hardly feel them and hardly
know that they're there. And I said, you know, if
she has a problem with them, I'll take them right
back out. She won't be able to see him. She's
laying face down, and so you know, I started, and
she was like, you know, she's doing okay. Yeah, And
(36:35):
I did them and I said, now, oftentimes people fall asleep,
and her daughter rolled her eyes and said that would
be a miracle. And anyway, I came back in to
check on her, and this gal snoring loudly and her
daughter's like, okay, it's weird that you can put needles
into somebody and.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
The filaments, filaments change the name we needed.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
One of the things is I've had people who were
addicted to opiods. The first time that I treated someone
with that with the acupuncture is he said, you know,
I need to speak to you afterwards privately, And so
he sits there and he says, I know when I've
received opiods and you had some opiods on the end
of those needles, didn't you. And I sat there, I said, well, no,
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what happens is it also stimulates your own natural production
of opiods. And then also acupuncture will increase the receptors,
so as you take opiods, your receptors actually degenerate and
your ability to actually make opiods on your own. So
one of the things that they've proven is that acupuncture
(37:46):
increases the natural opiods and the effectiveness of them, and
so people feel a lot better. Pain goes down because
your body's just all this nice oxytocin, and cortisol goes down,
and adrenaline goes down and all those good things, and
then all of a sudden you're doing much better.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, Well, I want to make sure we get to
POTS because there's a lot of interest with POTS. What
is POTS disease and what does it stand for?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Well, postural orthostatic tachycardiac syndrome. So what happens is your
vegus nerve is basically a vegas nerve issue where it's
in more of a sympathetic mode than parasympathetic. It's not
working right, and then all of a sudden you get
a constriction of the arteries and you go over and faint.
(38:33):
The problem with that, oftentimes is the atlas. The atlas
is the biggest thing that we can do to actually
improve that. Matter of fact, as we're looking at the
test for the POTS, you know, hey, this is positive.
We test it later after the atlas adjustment and you
no longer have that syndrome. Now, there can be other
(38:53):
things that need to go along with it. Oftentimes, if
it's damaged for long term, you have to do vague
nerve exercises. Some electrical stimulation can also be very helpful. Also,
the acupuncture can be helpful. But really, if that atlas
is out, you're never going to fix POTS without the
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outlass being set into its proper position.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
So how while is POTS diagnosed and treated from a
medical perspective.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
There's definite tests for it. Now, a lot of them
don't actually do that. They kind of go by the symptoms,
which are pretty clear, and so most of the.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Time when clear.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, when people come in and say I have POTS,
they usually do is we do the diagnostic test, but
we always confirm that because there could be some other
things that are occurring, which we've actually found in some people.
But it is pretty well confirmed. And it also is
something that obviously needs to be taken care of because
not only do you have the problem of the fainting
(39:53):
and the techycardia that's actually occurring, which is very uncomfortable,
and scar problems means that your system is not working correctly.
You know, you're going to develop heart problems. Most people
have digestive problems with that, There's an awful lot of
other things that are showing up in the system, and
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the POTS is just sort of a warning sign.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, even like fatigue they're saying is the most common symptom,
and then comes dizziness when standing, followed by brain fog
and heart palpitations.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Sure, you know, and almost of them have digestive issues
m h.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, and sweating abnormalities. Sure, you know, I think some
people think, oh am I having a hot flash or
you know, it couldn't be this also, is POTS considered
an autoimmune disease.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
It can be okay, But the biggest thing is pressure
on the nervous system. Basically, when you're talking about autoimmune diseases,
it's where the body is attacking itself. So the nervous
is plays a very big regulatory role along those lines.
So if your nervous system is not working correctly, the
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immune system is not going to be working correctly, you
have more of a chance of having an autoimmune disease.
So again it's a matter of getting everything balanced out
and everything going in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah, and I know holistic integration. You've been able to
help patients with POTS in your office, and how have
you done that?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Well, first thing, getting the atlass making sure that the
vagus nerve and the parasympathetic sympathetic system is balanced out,
that's the key. Along those lines, doing the exercises, electrical
stem acupuncture, and then also supplementation. One of the things
is that there are certain vitamins and minerals that need
to be there for the nervous system to work right.
(41:48):
So we have several things that are kind of like classical.
Our functional health coaches know exactly which Oh okay, they've
got that, so we know we're going to be grabbing
these five products to help to settle it down. Those
are very helpful too, so we hit it from multiple avenues. Yeah,
we're not just a one dog pony show. You know.
(42:10):
We have basically everything that has to do with structural
function to be able to get that all balanced up.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
All right, Well, thank you doctor.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Prayther, Thank you Lisa.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
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and then in twenty eleven, my mother became terminally ill,
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So it was truly this supernatural experience that I went
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Looking at it now, I wouldn't change anything. It's just
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Yes, it wasn't even on the market. So I got
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So we started VIP Week. It was actually our very
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before COVID and it is a week where women can
come one day or all days or Sundays, and it
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networking and really just finding a sisterhood of women that
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We actually have a lot of fun.
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And it was started, you know, just to give women
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and that's really what it's all about. It's about giving
women opportunities, and we have vendors who are going to
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Yeah, So we'll have the final presentations on Friday and
the audience will get to choose who wins that scholarship.
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Wonderful. So how can people find out more about the
VIP Center.
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If they want to learn more about the VIP Center,
they can go to our general website and you can
get to the VIP Week conference from there on the
front page, but you go to www. Dot Vipcenter, dot
works and then if you want to go directly to
the event page, you would just hit a forward slash
VIP week.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
So what are you looking forward to most that week?
Speaker 8 (53:12):
I love doing the mceing. I love introducing the women,
and I love just dropping little nuggets of encouragement and
scriptures to them. So it's really neat when you see
the women come in the room, you feel the atmosphere
and you've just feeled the anticipation and the excitement about
what's coming. And so I really like to feed into
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that and encourage those women. And that's I'm a faith facilitator,
and so I like facilitating their faith and talking to
each of them and hearing about what their vision is
for their business. And I really like helping just say hey,
here's something that you could do to elevate that. And
it's amazing how so many women over the years have
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just taken those little nuggets and applied them and it's
made a huge difference in their business. And that's what
I love. I love that God places us in the
same room at the same time, and it's not just
to look at each other and look good. It really
is to communicate and to inspire and facilitate what God
wants for them in their business, in their life.
Speaker 3 (54:18):
Yeah, and you do a wonderful job at that. Definitely
in your in your lane. Oh love, love love for that.
I'm looking forward to being there.
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I'm gonna be there Monday night kick off and again
on Wednesday.
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Having me with my friend.
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Hi, I'm Lisa Praither and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. Today we're talking about calming the storm within
fight or flight to rest and digest and so Dutch prayther.
(00:33):
We're going to talk about the autonomic nervous system ans
and how it works. But before that, I want to
ask you people coming into holistic integration, you know, and
you're looking at lab work and our autonomic nervous system
test results, what percentage of people would you say have
(00:53):
a properly balanced autonomic nervous system.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Ten maybe fifteen percent? You know, people are caught in
the sympathetic mode.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Mm hmm. Yeah, that's interesting. Has that changed over your
thirty plus almost forty years of practice.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, it's interesting that during COVID it basically became one
hundred percent of the people that were off. Yeah, just
because of the stress level. And the stress level is
still more than it was before that. There's a lot
more conflict, there's a lot more negativity, and you know,
just a lot of division and people can feel that
(01:31):
and so yeah, people are much more in the sympathetic
mode than they were before.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, and that's fair flight.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, all this stuff happened, mm hmm. Yeah, so twenty
nineteen was kind of an interesting shift.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, and we're going to talk about how we treat
it and how we diagnose it. But let's talk about
what it is. What is the autonomic nervous system and
how does it work and why is it vital to
you know, human survival.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's basically, you know, sort of the balance of the body.
We talk about homeostasis, which is balance, and homeostasis is
also health. So having your balance in your body. The
sympathetic is you know, to get you revved up and
get things done. Parasympathetic is the healing aspect, you know,
(02:23):
like you talked about the rest and digest and so
being able to have a balance along those lines. And
the balance is eighty percent of our time should be
more in parasympathetic, twenty percent in sympathetic, and that's actually
a proper balance where we have the stimulation that we
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need which really helps to get things done. And then
the parasympathetic where we actually build up our immune system,
digest our food, we rest and regenerate and that's where
we're really people have really missed.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Out right, and we're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, there's a lot of people who are just completely
stuck in the sympathetic mode, and they're wondering why their
digestive system isn't working right, why they're immune systems weak,
why they don't sleep well, why they don't feel well,
why they're fatigued, And it's because their parasympathetic is just
(03:24):
kind of shot and it's all sympathetic is how they're
operating on their lives. You know, that type a personality
that we you.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Know, I know very well.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I know it very well. I kind of live it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean, you know, even in Biblical it's like, you know,
you need the day of rest Sabbath, and accomplishing that
and helping to balance that out is one of the
important things in homeostasis because it affects every single organ
in our body. If we're stuck in.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
That, Yeah, I guess we can give an example myself, right,
That's probably why we're doing this. I want clarity, more
understanding because I think I've been in a sympathetic mode
for a while. Something happened over a year ago, and
I've just been driving through it. You know, I'm a
(04:14):
type a ask anybody that knows me, and you know me,
well you're married to me. I'm the sympathetic, you're the parasympathy.
Last week, actually I was out in the reception room
talking to a patient and I stood up and felt
(04:35):
like I was gonna faint, and you all got me
on the table and took my blood pressure, which I
have excellent blood pressure usually when twenty over sixty, and
it was one eighty over ninety, put some acupuncture needles
and then you said, my atlas, my neck, my cervical
was out, which had a big, big part of that.
(05:00):
And I've been having you know, little what I would
call panic attacks, which I didn't know they were sure.
So it's just interesting as I study. It took forty
five minutes to get my blood pressure back to one
twenty over sixty. But I'm starting to do and we're
going to talk about the vagual nerve and how important
it is, and these resets and exercises that are helping me,
(05:25):
and some decisions I had to make, you know, lifestyle decisions.
You know, what is it that's keeping me in this
sympathetic What environments am I in what things you have
to change, What things I have to change, which we
are doing. So I'm living this out everything we're talking about.
But I realized because of my symptoms, so much of
(05:48):
it is living in this sympathetic that you know caused
my high blood pressure, sure, because it affects the blood
vessels and too much overaction the sympathetic right constricts them, right, Yeah,
and blood pressure is part of that.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, it's It's a really important type of thing because
you know, you have the fight to flight and then
if you get real severe, you have paralysis. You know,
where you you freeze, so fight flight freeze freeze. That
freeze is even worse. And we see people who come
in who are in that frozen type of state where
(06:24):
they're just not able to function at all.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
What does that look like, Well.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's interesting, you know, like possums, they play dead, they
fall over. That's sort of a heightened freeze type of
a mechanism. But one of the things that it was
sort of out there is when some big tiger comes in,
the bigger the tiger is the worse it is. So
if it comes in and it looks like you can
(06:49):
fight it, then you go on ahead, and you know,
it tells you to go on ahead and attack it.
If it's like kind of you know, medium you sit
there and you say, well, I think I can run,
and then I run, or it's I freeze and hopefully
he doesn't notice.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Me, doesn't eat me.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Right, So in the freezing mechanism is actually a survival
type of thing. There was one guy who sit there
and he said he was a hunter, and this mountain
lion came down and he just kind of stopped in
his tracks and didn't move and the mountain lion walked
past and didn't notice him. Wow, So I mean the
freeze is actually something that's helpful. Yeah. I've even seen it,
(07:31):
like a dog get really scared and just lock up
and then fall over. If you've ever seen that, that's
the freeze mechanism and cartoons. Well, no, it's actually in
real life. But I have had patients who are just
basically frozen. You know, they're not able to do anything.
They're just so stressed that they can't even function. And
(07:55):
so you know, that's actually one of the further steps.
So trying to get people out of it, that's an
important type of thing.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that. So let's talk
about the autonomic nervous system is always, you know, as
often referred as automatic. Why is that?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well, you don't want to have to think about your
heart I forgot to make my heart beat. That's not good, right,
Or you have to think about digesting your food or
breathing or all the chemical changes that take place. You know,
you can't think about those types of things. Yeah, you know,
if you forget, I mean, you know sometimes I think
if my head wasn't attached, you know, it's cost of
(08:32):
right now, because I'm thinking about so many other things.
And so you want to have things that actually operate
without your thought process. So having that autonomic nervous system
where it actually runs on its own is something that
is very helpful, but it is nice to be able
to control it somewhat.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, Well, how does that ans interact with the underconsystem.
We talked about the underconsystem last week, So how does
it interact?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, there are hormones that are basically more sympathetic based,
which is fight flight, and then you have the ones
that are more rest and digest. Two examples of that
sort of the most extreme ones are cortisol, which is
the sympathetic kind of gets you up and going, adrenaline
type of thing. And then you have oxytocin, which is
(09:26):
sort of the feel good hormone. One thing that they
find that when you pick up a baby and hold
a baby, all of a sudden there's a release of oxytocin.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So I hold babies on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, it's your oxytocin toes. So having those and kind
of increasing we have plenty of cortisol and adrenaline kind
of rushing through our bodies. We know how to do that,
but actually how to get the feel good hormones is
one of the big things that we need to actually
push on. And the parasympathetic and sympathetic are all interact
(10:00):
acting with that. The nervous system stimulates the indercon and
hormonal system, and then the endercn and hormonal system effects
the nervous system. Those are the two controlling things. And
that's the thing I tell people. The first thing we
need to do is get your nervous system and your
hormones balance out. Yeah, because it controls everything else.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, Like for example, my antliss was out, so we
put my antless in and big difference, you know, a
big change and then I did some vaguel nerve exercises,
which we're going to talk about next. Okay, we'll be
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the most comprehensive wellness center in the Midwest, and we're
talking about calming the storm within fight or flight to
rest and digest, and I guess we should say fight
or flight or freeze, right, Yeah, but we're going to
talk about the vangel nerve. A lot going on. We're
(14:36):
hearing a lot about the vangel nerve. So doctor Prayther,
when the autonomic nervous system is out of balance, what
kinds of health issues, symptoms or diseases are kicked off?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
All of them, all the above. So you know, your heart,
you know, just speaking about that determines your heart rate.
It determines if it's off on its rhythm, so rhythm
heart rate. The health of the heart, you know, eventually
is determinive by the nervous system, constriction of the blood vessels.
(15:08):
When you actually need some extra blood, the blood vessels
will actually constrict. But if it stays like that, then
you get hypertension. A matter of fact, one of the
things that they found is that the atlyss adjustment has
a huge effect on hypertension.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So, and you know, there's an awful lot of neurology
that actually shows that up your lungs, how deep you
breathe is all affected by the sympathetic pair sympathetic.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, when you're in sympathetic more of that rapid breathing.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Rapid breathing, which you know determines how long you live,
how deep you breathe, which is basically a measurement of
whether you're allowing yourself to go into pair sympathetic mode.
So sympathetic your digestion, that's basically has to do with
your stress levels. You know, whether you're able to digest
your food, your sleep patterns, your immune.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
System, so muscle tension.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, it's just goes on and on. Exactly what is
involved with that. All the things that can go wrong
with your body can be initiated by stress, Yeah, and
your body not being able to handle it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, I know, in that sympathetic mode, you go into
a heightened awareness. You know that's kind of you're in
this heightened awareness, but you know you don't need to
be in heightened awareness of the time. Just twenty percent. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, I mean I've taken martial arts and they teach
you to go as on your fighting, to go into
an extreme parasympathetic mode and actually your awareness is even greater.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh really interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Because then you're more focused, you're able to there's a
whole training that they go through in how to control
your nervous system because the person who is dependent upon
the fight flight is easy to defeat.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah. Well that must have really worked for you, because
I know what you go through every day, and you know,
I don't see you in a sympathetic mode. You know,
you're stay nice and steady, rest and digest parasympathetic. Sure,
so do you think that's done?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yes, most helpful.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, that trained me quite well. I do tai chi,
which actually it's a completely parasympathetic fighting art.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, that's a good way to put it, right. Yeah.
And also, I mean I see you deep breathing throughout
the day, right. Yeah. You've had a couple of patients
complaining because they said you'd breathe too loudly. It's funny
that I'd.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Breathe much more loudly when I'm taking care of them
than in other people. So what does that mean what
does that mean?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yea, well, let's talk about the vegas nerve. You know,
you're seeing a lot of articles posted on the vegas nerve.
What is the vegas nerve and why is it important?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, it's an upper motor, so it doesn't go through
the spinal cord, so you have the sympathetic para sympathetic
that's actually within the spinal cord. But the vegas nerve
actually comes down from the skull itself. So well, I
mean it's called the vegas nerve because it wanders. It
controls the heart, it controls the lungs, it controls the digestion.
(18:30):
It has a huge effect on all those types of
things along with nerves coming from the spinal cord.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, it got its name because it wanders like a vagabond,
right right, And it's the longest cranial nerve right yeah. Interesting,
And you're right like it goes from the brainstem to
your visceral organs.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Sure, yeah, and it's a very that and then the
spinal cord nerves they work together to control all those
autonomic systems at work without your thought process. And so
the vegas nerve is extremely important and that's one of
the things that we measure in our office. We measure
(19:09):
the function of the vegas nerve and the balance of
the spinal cord between the sympathetic pair sympathetic and then
one of the things is that shows us that we
need to get those things fixed or not.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what the autonomic nervous system trusting. Yeah.
Real interesting too, because they're seeing that the vegus nerve
prevents inflammation, It tells the lungs to breathe. The vegas
nerve controls your heart rate, it initiates relaxation after stress.
It let's your gut talk to your brain, and overstimulation
(19:44):
of the vegas nerve is the most common cause of fainting.
Those were some of the issues you know that I
had that I felt like I was gonna faint. Right,
we're going to talk about ways to regulate that vegas nerve.
So you have found that through you're deep breathing, sure
and deeping is very important.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Eye exercises, there's a lot of different types of ways
that you can work with that. Yeah, but being able
to do that is a very important part of maintaining
health and wellness and actually being able to function.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, And what about the vegus nerve? Does it affect
neural transmitters and how they function?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Of course, so there's a definite change in the neurochemistry
when you go from a parasympathetic to sympathetic mode. And
again it's all a balance. It's not like one's bad.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
The sympathetic nervousism isn't bad. You should be in it
about twenty percent. That's a good balance. So there are
times where you should have, like an increase in heart rate.
There should be, you know, some aspects of that in
your life, but it shouldn't be a predominant type of thing.
And a very easy way to kind of tell how
(20:58):
you're doing is the lead evader scalpulous. Ah, yes, right,
it's on that shoulder muscle right up in there, and
the tension on that upper back. Yeah, that tension up
there can really show up where you're at. And so
I can kind of test on people, and I have
a when I first examine them, I pretty well know
(21:20):
how much in sympathetic mode they are and how much
they are as far as imparasympathetic just by touching their shoulders,
the top of their shoulders. That will tell me quite
a bit of what's happening.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, that's interesting. And you can watch people breathing too,
you know, if they're breathing rapidly a lot from their chest. Sure, yeah,
that's important. Yeah, let's talk about the you know, the
natural vegus nerve stimulants. One thing I do. I go
into very sympathetic mode when I fly because I don't
(21:56):
like to fly. And if you're sitting next to me,
you'll hear me I hum. You know, if you get
nervous and humming and singing, if you're someone that likes
to do that, you know, throughout the day. Really, since
the vagus nerve is connected to the vocal cords and
the muscles at the back of your throat, it helps
(22:19):
those sounds stimulate the nerves in the vagel tone. So
and that's a nice thing to do. Sure do hear
people humming like they used to gargling several times gargling
water during the day. Say, you know, when you go
to the restroom, take some water and gargle, and that
really helps again to strengthen the vaguel nerve pathways. And
(22:43):
then deep and slow breathing very important. You want to
take six breasthts over a course of a minute. You
want to breathe deeply from the diaphragm. Your stomach should
come out and chests should not move. So you're breathing
in for six to eight bats and then you can
hold it six to seven and then exhale should be
(23:06):
longer eight to ten beats. When I first teach people,
I call it a four by four. They're inhaling for
four when they're first learning. Someone that can't even get
the breath down, you know, to the diaphragm. Yeah, So
we start out that inhale for four and exhale and
(23:26):
I have them put their hands, you know, on their tummy,
and then we go from that to a four by
seven by eight. So that's inhaling for four, hold it
for seven, and out slowly for eight. That's really important.
So deep breathing is another way to reset that vaguel
(23:48):
nerve and stimulate it. Also, cold exposure just at the
end of your shower. And I know you do this,
you taught me this. You finish with cold water. You
put that on cold water that I'll stimulate the vagel nerve.
If you can finish that hot shower with thirty seconds
(24:09):
of cold water that really helps, or just splashing cold
water on your face, taking ice cubes in a ziploc
bag and pull that ice against your face. Very important
to just think of that brain stem where that vague
nerve starts. So important. And then exercise. Exercise is very important,
(24:34):
doing weights one to four times per week, or hide
intensity interval training one to two times per week, walks
thirty to sixty minutes. Exercise you always say it cures
worldshom Yeah. And then meditation. One thing is too that
I noticed what was causing me to go into that
(24:57):
fight or flight a lot was I was listening to
the news more, which I hadn't been right, and you
just get into get sucked into it. And then I
was scrawling through reels and Facebook more than usual and
before bed.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And now there's never any confrontational things as far as
on the news or everybody's like we all love each
other and.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Just give us the news, not your opinions. But anyway,
I've backed out of that. And you know, I play
a lot of soothing music. I love the harp sound
and that really helps me. Is what I'm listening to
in the car around the house. I love to have music,
and then you know, for me, playing the piano helps
(25:43):
me just like your tai chi helps you.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, And then anything you would add, I know you
do eye movements. Do you want to talk about that
to reset that vagueal nerve?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Sure, there are a whole series of eye movements that
I was trained in to actually relax that. And the
eye movements are actually shown to be the most powerful
for the vague nerve. So meta fact, one of the
things is I used to wear glasses when I was
first married, and I did eye exercises and changed the
(26:17):
shape of my eye. And now I don't need glasses anymore.
I know you don't, but that was part of the process,
and that's one of the things. If I get stressed,
I will do a series of eye exercises and that
will I can feel.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Can you talk a little bit about what you do?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Sure, I hit several different corners, So I hit eight
different corners, so I kind of look at it, you know,
as far as up to the side, and then I'll
hit those and then I'll circle my eyes one way
and circle my eyes the other. So that's fine, and
then from one side to the other.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, that's one thing that I went right to when
I was laying flat on my back. You keep your
head still well, and then you take your eyes and
move them like to the three o'clock and you hold
them there until you get some kind of response. For me,
it's usually a yawn or a sy or a cough,
(27:13):
and then you know you're good there. And then you
go to the nine nine number and you hold it
and do the same and that should reset the vague
nerve and.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Actually a cough oftentimes will reset it. That's why you
will actually reset the heart.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, interesting, Okay, when we get back more on
an autonomic nervous system. So interesting, and we're going to
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that we do for the autonomic nervous system.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So we have our ans testing, that's what we call it,
and it's actually very comprehensive. Of course, the big thing
is that we're testing on the cardiovascular system, but the
portion on that for testing on the vagus nerve and
the balance between the autonomic nervous system is very critical
because that plays a huge role as far as on
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the heart. The neurology of the heart is basically what
we're looking at, but of course that measures how it's
affecting the whole rest of the system. So it's a
very simple test, takes about fifteen minutes and it's nothing invasive.
It's basically an electrical where we put a little pad
on you and then blood pressure cuffs and then you
(32:08):
do a different type of breathing, you actually stand up,
and then it measures all the different types of effects.
It is a research grade test, so it's very accurate
and gives us a tremendous amount of information. It does
give the gold standard for testing for pots.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
M h.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah. Before we talk on pots, let's talk about the
other services that we offered holistic integration that really assist
not only in pots, but in balancing the pair of
sympathetic and the sympathetic. And you talked about one is
the atlas.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
The most important thing is the atlice. When I first
went into was going into chiropractic school, I said, what's
the most important adjustment. Every chiropractor said, the autlice, you know,
has the huge effect on the system. And I also asked,
what's the most difficult adjustment to make, and they said,
(33:06):
without doubt, it's the atlas. Matter of fact, some techniques
actually tell you to keep away from it because it's
so very very small, but a little bit of movement
has a huge effect on the system. I said, who
actually does it the best? And everyone pretty much said
doctor Roy Sweat, And he was developing the atlas orthogonal
technique as I was down there. So I was actually
(33:29):
in the very first class of that technique and it
is recognized by many different types of chiropractic systems as
the go to for difficult ATLAS situations. And so like,
one of the things that you had is that you
were caught in a very sympathetic mode, and that is
(33:49):
probably the reason that your atlas went out in the
first place. Stress intention is one of the things that
kicks it out. But then to be able to relieve it,
you need to put it back in position. And we
can take pre impost autonomic nervous system tests and see
that the vegus nerve is improved quite dramatically as soon
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as we do that adjustment, and then also the balance
between the parasympathetic and sympathetic comes back into a normal type.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Of Actually, just see my breathing changed.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Everything changes. The thing that I tell people, the one
thing that I can do to make the biggest difference
in your health and well being is setting that atlas
into its proper position, because it affects the nervous system
that controls everything else. So it affects the immune system,
(34:43):
It affects your heart, it affects your lungs, your digestion,
all those different types of things are changed by that
Atlas adjustment, and it is the most important thing that
you can possibly do for your health and well being.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah. The other thing, let's talk about acupuncture. That was
also done when I went through this episode. Sure, and
then we followed that with the adjustment. How does acupuncture help?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Well, they have done studies on acupuncture. As they were
drawing the blood and what were the levels of the
cortisol and the oxytocin before acupuncture. As they do the acupuncture,
immediately they can see a decrease in the cortisol levels
and an increase in the oxytocin. So all the underconsystem
(35:29):
actually changes with the acupuncture. People ask me, how does
that happen. I'm not quite sure. We have theories on it,
but it does affect the electromagnetic energy of the body.
And I've had people who sit there and I think
of there was one goal. She didn't speak English, and
her daughter, who did speak English, was with us. She
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came in because three months she hadn't slept three months,
three months, and she was beside herself. Things weren't working,
Pharmaceuticals weren't work, and they were talking about putting her
into the Struss Center, and I said, well, you know,
we need to do a thorough evaluation. In the meantime,
let's do some acupuncture. She goes, oh, she just freaks
(36:12):
out over needles, you know, and you could see her
eyes get big when I talked about it. And I
sat there and I said, well, you know, they're basically
like little filaments and you hardly feel them and hardly
know that they're there. And I said, you know, if
she has a problem with them, I'll take them right
back out. She won't be able to see him. She's
laying face down, and so you know, I started, and
she was like, you know, she's doing okay. Yeah, And
(36:35):
I did them and I said, now, oftentimes people fall asleep,
and her daughter rolled her eyes and said that would
be a miracle. And anyway, I came back in to
check on her, and this gal snoring loudly and her
daughter's like, okay, it's weird that you can put needles
into somebody and.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
The filaments, filaments change the name we needed.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
One of the things is I've had people who were
addicted to opiods. The first time that I treated someone
with that with the acupuncture is he said, you know,
I need to speak to you afterwards privately, And so
he sits there and he says, I know when I've
received opiods and you had some opiods on the end
of those needles, didn't you. And I sat there, I said, well, no,
(37:24):
what happens is it also stimulates your own natural production
of opiods. And then also acupuncture will increase the receptors,
so as you take opiods, your receptors actually degenerate and
your ability to actually make opiods on your own. So
one of the things that they've proven is that acupuncture
(37:46):
increases the natural opiods and the effectiveness of them, and
so people feel a lot better. Pain goes down because
your body's just all this nice oxytocin, and cortisol goes down,
and adrenaline goes down and all those good things, and
then all of a sudden you're doing much better.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, Well, I want to make sure we get to
POTS because there's a lot of interest with POTS. What
is POTS disease and what does it stand for?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Well, postural orthostatic tachycardiac syndrome. So what happens is your
vegus nerve is basically a vegas nerve issue where it's
in more of a sympathetic mode than parasympathetic. It's not
working right, and then all of a sudden you get
a constriction of the arteries and you go over and faint.
(38:33):
The problem with that, oftentimes is the atlas. The atlas
is the biggest thing that we can do to actually
improve that. Matter of fact, as we're looking at the
test for the POTS, you know, hey, this is positive.
We test it later after the atlas adjustment and you
no longer have that syndrome. Now, there can be other
(38:53):
things that need to go along with it. Oftentimes, if
it's damaged for long term, you have to do vague
nerve exercises. Some electrical stimulation can also be very helpful. Also,
the acupuncture can be helpful. But really, if that atlas
is out, you're never going to fix POTS without the
(39:14):
outlass being set into its proper position.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
So how while is POTS diagnosed and treated from a
medical perspective.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
There's definite tests for it. Now, a lot of them
don't actually do that. They kind of go by the symptoms,
which are pretty clear, and so most of the.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Time when clear.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, when people come in and say I have POTS,
they usually do is we do the diagnostic test, but
we always confirm that because there could be some other
things that are occurring, which we've actually found in some people.
But it is pretty well confirmed. And it also is
something that obviously needs to be taken care of because
not only do you have the problem of the fainting
(39:53):
and the techycardia that's actually occurring, which is very uncomfortable,
and scar problems means that your system is not working correctly.
You know, you're going to develop heart problems. Most people
have digestive problems with that, There's an awful lot of
other things that are showing up in the system, and
(40:15):
the POTS is just sort of a warning sign.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, even like fatigue they're saying is the most common symptom,
and then comes dizziness when standing, followed by brain fog
and heart palpitations.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Sure, you know, and almost of them have digestive issues
m h.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, and sweating abnormalities. Sure, you know, I think some
people think, oh am I having a hot flash or
you know, it couldn't be this also, is POTS considered
an autoimmune disease.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
It can be okay, But the biggest thing is pressure
on the nervous system. Basically, when you're talking about autoimmune diseases,
it's where the body is attacking itself. So the nervous
is plays a very big regulatory role along those lines.
So if your nervous system is not working correctly, the
(41:06):
immune system is not going to be working correctly, you
have more of a chance of having an autoimmune disease.
So again it's a matter of getting everything balanced out
and everything going in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah, and I know holistic integration. You've been able to
help patients with POTS in your office, and how have
you done that?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Well, first thing, getting the atlass making sure that the
vagus nerve and the parasympathetic sympathetic system is balanced out,
that's the key. Along those lines, doing the exercises, electrical
stem acupuncture, and then also supplementation. One of the things
is that there are certain vitamins and minerals that need
to be there for the nervous system to work right.
(41:48):
So we have several things that are kind of like classical.
Our functional health coaches know exactly which Oh okay, they've
got that, so we know we're going to be grabbing
these five products to help to settle it down. Those
are very helpful too, so we hit it from multiple avenues. Yeah,
we're not just a one dog pony show. You know.
(42:10):
We have basically everything that has to do with structural
function to be able to get that all balanced up.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
All right, Well, thank you doctor.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Prayther, Thank you Lisa.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
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you had success at holistic integration and preventing amputations from neuropathy?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yes, that is something that we're very proud of that.
We've had a lot of people who had had advanced
issues actually had part of their foot cutoff and they
were going to cut off more, which is just basically
a death sentence as you work your way up. So
we hit them with the nutrients and with the diathermy
(44:34):
and was able to save people. As far as having
that done, that's a very common thing that we do.
We have a very high success rate actually stopping an
amputation from occurring and reversing that. So not only are
we good at dealing with the neuropathies in there, but
actually in the real severe types of cases where it
is down to an amputation, we've been able to turn
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that around.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Schedule your appointment at Holistic Integration three one seven for
eight eighty forty eight Holistic Integration Restoring Hope.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
So beautiful, beautiful day.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Too.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
You're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor Robert
Prather of Holistic Integration, where our mission is restoring hope
to our patients.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Welcome, Angie Nuttle, Oh, I'm so excited to be here
with you.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
I am so excited. We have over a decade, we've
known each other.
Speaker 8 (45:37):
Yes, we've known each other for a long time. And
we've laughed together, we've cried together.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yes, we've prayed together. We've done it all.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
That's all right, that is the truth.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
So you have the VIP Center, and let's talk about that.
What is the VIP Center for business Women and what
is the vision and the mission.
Speaker 8 (45:56):
So the VIP Center for Business Women is a place
where women of faith come to build their faith but
also grow in business. And we have a philosophy and
a belief that women can be purposeful and profitable at
the same time. And so we help women to break
out of all of the prisons that we tend to
(46:17):
put ourselves in that get us trapped so that we're
not moving forward confidently. And so we help women to
move out of that and to truly build businesses that
matter in our kingdom.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Purpose based. And VIP stands for visions in progress.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Vision in progress.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
But it's very important people too.
Speaker 7 (46:37):
But visions yes, progress, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
And you were in the corporate world before that.
Speaker 8 (46:44):
Yeah, So I was in corporate for over twenty years.
I spent three of those over in Iraq as an
HR defense contractor. I was one of sixteen females on
my base. It was very challenging, but it was truly
a moment when God told me to go and be
obedient and go to this place, and I did and
as a result, it just opened up a whole new
(47:07):
world for me. So I continued growing in my corporate career,
and then in twenty eleven, my mother became terminally ill,
and so we made a detour on my career and
we came back to Indiana and she went into remission,
which was really awesome and surprising, and so it was
(47:27):
really at that point that I felt like I was
being called to work with women. So that's when I
opened up my coaching and consulting firm and was successful
with that right off the bat. And then God made
me take another direction, which was to the VIP Center.
So it was truly this supernatural experience that I went
(47:48):
through because I was not looking to work with business women.
I was used to working with everybody in corporate, but
this really was a mission that I was called to.
Looking at it now, I wouldn't change anything. It's just
been such a wonderful experience to see women growing and thriving,
but not just that, just growing their faith like never before.
(48:11):
And so I've really enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
And so here I am, and you went and bought
a mansion.
Speaker 8 (48:19):
Yes, it wasn't even on the market. So I got
this god memo that God had a building for me.
And I hated that idea because I didn't want the
overhead and all of that, but he just pretty much
dropped it in my lap. And so my husband and
I renovated this nineteen oh three mini mansion with an
event center on the back of it. It's as if
(48:40):
it was made for us. And so we moved into
that six years ago. August of twenty nineteen is when
we opened the doors. And here's the amazing thing. Right now,
we've actually outgrown the building. We've grown so much that
we were running out of space to hold our events.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
And so it's a great problem, great problems I have.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yeah, yeah, well, let's talk about the VIP Week coming up, yes,
and what the vision is with the VIP Week.
Speaker 8 (49:09):
So we started VIP Week. It was actually our very
first event with the VIP Center and it was right
before COVID and it is a week where women can
come one day or all days or Sundays, and it
really is about getting immersed in learning and community and
networking and really just finding a sisterhood of women that
(49:34):
it's a comparison free environment and they're not busy competing
with each other. It's not like those typical conferences where
you see the competition going on. It's a very peaceful
and inviting, positive environment. And so we also give women
opportunities to speak. Some of the women have this is
(49:54):
their first time speaking where they might not get a chance,
you know in other arenas have experienced speakers who are
coming to motivate and teach. So we have breakouts that
are happening, and we do hot seat coaching. There are
all kinds of things that we do, and we do
all kinds of fun activities, so we're not like the boring,
stodgy conferences, you know, sit and.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (50:20):
We actually have a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
So it's I've been there, yes, yeah.
Speaker 8 (50:24):
And it was started, you know, just to give women
something more refreshing and fun to look forward to to grow,
and that's really what it's all about. It's about giving
women opportunities, and we have vendors who are going to
be there and they get to sell their products and
their services and their right so they get more visibility.
(50:45):
And I would say that is one of the key
factors about the VIP Center. We're all about promoting and
giving visibility to women in business, especially faith based women.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
So tell us specifics about the VIP Week and it
is and where it's going to be. Yeah, and I'm
actually speaking on Wednesday, Yes, yes, you are.
Speaker 8 (51:06):
So it's going to be at our VIP Center, which
is at thirty seven fifty five North Washington Boulevard and
it's a beautiful mini mansion. You can't miss it. The
VIP Center sign is out front. It's going to be
May fifth through the ninth, So May the fifth, we
start off in an evening that is going to be
a formal dress networking event. We're going to have a
(51:29):
hot buffet, and we have this year's keynote speaker who
is Aisha Grove and she is a faith based speaker
and businesswoman who she's going to be sharing her journey
on how she went from inner city poverty to where
she is now. So I'm really looking forward to that
(51:50):
and then Tuesday through Friday kicks off the rest of
the general conference. So Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday we've got
all kinds of speakers. We've got breakout session, so you
can pick the breakout session that you want to go to.
We'll have lunch there, which is going to be great.
Friday is a very special day because every year we
(52:11):
give away a VIP Businesswomen's Scholarship and that includes one
thousand dollars seed money to go towards their business. But
then we also provide them with six months of coaching
and we help them with one major done for you service.
So if they need a website, we build that for them.
If they need a marketing funnel, we build that for them.
(52:32):
So it's a great way for a woman who is
in need to elevate her business and have the help
that she needs to do it.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (52:40):
Yeah, So we'll have the final presentations on Friday and
the audience will get to choose who wins that scholarship.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Wonderful. So how can people find out more about the
VIP Center.
Speaker 8 (52:50):
If they want to learn more about the VIP Center,
they can go to our general website and you can
get to the VIP Week conference from there on the
front page, but you go to www. Dot Vipcenter, dot
works and then if you want to go directly to
the event page, you would just hit a forward slash
VIP week.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
So what are you looking forward to most that week?
Speaker 8 (53:12):
I love doing the mceing. I love introducing the women,
and I love just dropping little nuggets of encouragement and
scriptures to them. So it's really neat when you see
the women come in the room, you feel the atmosphere
and you've just feeled the anticipation and the excitement about
what's coming. And so I really like to feed into
(53:34):
that and encourage those women. And that's I'm a faith facilitator,
and so I like facilitating their faith and talking to
each of them and hearing about what their vision is
for their business. And I really like helping just say hey,
here's something that you could do to elevate that. And
it's amazing how so many women over the years have
(53:56):
just taken those little nuggets and applied them and it's
made a huge difference in their business. And that's what
I love. I love that God places us in the
same room at the same time, and it's not just
to look at each other and look good. It really
is to communicate and to inspire and facilitate what God
wants for them in their business, in their life.
Speaker 3 (54:18):
Yeah, and you do a wonderful job at that. Definitely
in your in your lane. Oh love, love love for that.
I'm looking forward to being there.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
I'm gonna be there Monday night kick off and again
on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
So all right, thank you for joining us, Thank you for.
Speaker 8 (54:36):
Having me with my friend.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Holistic Integration is located at eighty nine oh two North
Meridian Street on the north side of Indianapolis, just south
of the I four sixty five loop. If we can
help you to achieve better health, we'd love to hear
from you. Connect with our office at three one seven
eight four eight eighty forty eight. That's three one seven
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