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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, I'm Lisa Praither, and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host doctor Robert Preither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare from stiffness to strength, managing osteoarthritis naturally and effectively.
And so, doctor Praither, what is osteoarthritis.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, osteoarthritis is basically a degeneration of a joint. Usually
you have cartilage that actually is sort of a cushion
and that starts to get worn away and replaced with bone,
so you can get bone spurs, have normal shaped bones,
that type of thing. So osteoarthritis is very common.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
M h.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
And I figured it had some to do with bones
because it's got ostealing.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
An arthritis inflammation of the joint, uh huh. But yeah,
it differs from more of the autoimmune like rheumatoid arthritis
or soriatic arthritis, which is where the body attacks the joint. Okay,
so this isn't where the immune system is actually attacking
the joint. It's more of a wearing down of the joint.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Itself, okay, kind of a wear and tear.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, so you know, with the autoimmune arthritis. Basically, you're
talking about a lot more inflammation, a lot more pain.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So how many people are affected by asteoarthritis?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, interesting enough, if you're over fifty, eighty percent of
the people over fifty have osteoarthritis.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And twenty five percent of primary care
visits are actually related to osteoisthritis.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's a lot, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
We see a lot of people coming in with osteoarthritic pain,
you know, and working with that is something that is
one of the primary things that we do in our office.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Wow, is deal with osteoarthritis.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Dealing with osteoarthritis and trying to reverse it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So what are the symptoms of osteoarthritis? And I know
you can also say, oh a, you know that science
for astearthritis.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So ostere arthritis usually there's some stiffness when you wake
up in the morning. There is you know, the more
that you actually use the joint, the more painful it is.
Interestingly enough, a lot of people, the young people you know,
thirty and above, start to develop osteoarthritis first in the knees.
So I have a lot of people who come in
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who overuse their knees or other different types of things
that are going on with that. Knee pain is probably
the earliest sign of osteoarthritis. Also in the back, neck, shoulders,
hands are always different areas that osteoarithritis can really show up. Basically,
the more you use it, the more that the joint
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becomes painful. I've certainly seen a lot of young people
with knee pain. I mean, I even have high school
kids coming in with knee paint. Is take a picture
and they're already starting to start some ustere arthritis.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
So oh from the x ray.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
From the x rays, you know, And one of the
things that we look at is when you're over fifty.
Like I said, eighty percent of the people have it.
But really, you know, one of the big things is
that you know, like you take your kid in and
have his teeth checked, the same thing is what you
should be doing with your kids with their spine, knees, joints,
all those types of things.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, the dental profession is such a.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Good just did an amazing job each kind of you
used to go to a dentist when you're tooth hurt,
you know, and that's the only time.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And now you know, we maintain them.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You know, there's regular checkups, there's cleanings, all those things
are very true. And really with our spine and our joints, knees,
all those things, keeping kids, you know, joint health is
probably even more important than the teeth. So you know,
it's just something to keep in mind.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, really important to get your kids checked. That makes sense, sure,
just checking their structural.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Right, right, right.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, you know one of the things is, especially
if you're a kid, well, I mean there's a lot
of things that can actually be involved in that. You know,
if their obesity is actually a risk factor, Yeah, if
you have greater weight bearing, then you're going to have
more of a likelihood of having asteothritis. Women actually suffer
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with osteoithritis more than men. Why is well, men have
more muscles supporting the joints and women actually have more. Well,
you know, one thing is that the hips are shaped
differently in women and puts greater pressure on the hips
and on the knees than men, and especially if they're athletes,
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that's going to usually cause more issues for the women
than with men. One of the big things is that
most like professional football players, this actually is you know,
ostroarthritis from all the injuries and everything, they're all just
almost all crippled up because of the overuse. Now interestingly,
(05:21):
too little exercise can be at us because you're not
pumping the joints and getting the fluid movement. Then if
you actually over exercise, that also causes problemso stasis. Just
talking about that, but really, you know, one of the
things I really encourage people to do is to keep
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their kids checked. It's just like our kids when they
went through sports, didn't have as many problems, right, you know,
and our daughters sit there and it was in soccer
and said, you know, mom, white, do we have some
less problems then all my other friends who were out
with different types of injuries. And you said, well, dad
keeps you lined.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
That's right. Yeah, it makes a huge difference on that, right.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Especially we noticed when she played high school soccer and
she was on a national team, national championship, national championship team.
But yeah, a lot of the girls with the hips
and the alignment the way the knee, yeah there are
issues with that.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And sure, sure you were able to.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Keep her aligned and hips and knees and.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Right, well, you know, one of the biggest reasons for
is misalignment of a joint. If it's not moving properly,
it's going to start to wear down. And as it
starts to wear down, you start to get the ostiarthritis.
So we had a young gal who was sixteen came
into our office athlete and had knee issues and she
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had been you did physical therapy, other chiropractors for about
three years for it and seeing the orthopedic and they
all said there was nothing to really do. She walked
in and she was saying knee pain. And I looked
at her and I said, well, you have valgus knees.
That's the reason that you have knee pain. I said,
(07:20):
you know, has anybody talked to you about that? And
I said, nobody's mentioned it.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Valgus nis.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, what's valgus? That's where they're bent in and so
they weren't lined up. So I said, you know, well
we'll be able to get that rehab the joint. The
first thing we did was we lined up the knees.
She got up and the pain was gone.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, just by lining up the knees.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It was like instantaneous.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And she's like, what, yeah, you know, I've been trying
to treat this for three years and had nothing, and
you do one thing on me and it's gone. Well,
that wasn't the only thing that needed to be done, though,
you know. One of the things is we had to
reverse the arthritis. We have to strengthen up the knees
so it holds, and then we also do decompression where
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we pump it. That gets the fluid back in the
joints and actually reversing the austeoarthritis.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah. I know for me, I have that the need.
You have various snees, yes, which is wow.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I looked like I just got off a horse and you.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Were a sprinter, right right.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So if you let me see, I think it's for
the average population. It's less than ten percent of the
population has various knees, and they're eighty percent of the
Olympic sprinters.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh really it was an Olympic sprinter.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
But you were a sprinter. Did they find that you
still have a high school record?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, people who have various varias knees actually sprint, Yeah,
have a better sprint.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
But well, what did I just do?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
A couple of weeks ago, I climbed the Manitou incline
two seven hundred and sixty eight steps straight up. Let's
than a mile. And you did check my knee after,
because then you have to go down, you don't go
down the same way, which can be even harder on
the knees, right, and my yeah, my tibia was out
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of place, and you were able to align that. And
then when I got home, I got the decompression and
all as.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Well, all as well, and I yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Was something on my bucket list.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I did.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
What did you do that day.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
When I climbed? I went to Pike's Peak?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, had a nice drive in a convertible. And see
now that would scare.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Me more.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Just looking over the edge and looking down a thousand
feet drop.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, I'll do the incline again when we go back
out there. So, Dodger Praither, is there more than one
type of osteoithritis.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yes, there's primary ostereiothritis, which is what we were talking about,
just wear and tear, you know, type of thing, which
is actually the vast majority of ostereoarthritis. Secondary osterearthritis is
basically where you can have some congenital abnormalities. So we
see people with abnormalities in their cervical spine, so like
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one side of their spine is higher than the other
and so you know, the motion isn't the same, So
you can have abnormalities in your spine joints and that
can kind of kick it off. Hypermobility is also another
different thing that can actually occur.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Which means too much mobility.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Too much mobility, and then also you know, secondary is
also kicked off. They consider trauma, obesity, those types of things.
Then there's actually a third type which is usually from
some type of a disease process that has occurred. There's
a whole variety of those. We try to classify them
and actually deal with those in different ways.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, and we'll be talking about that, and when we
come back, we'll talk about how osteoarthritis is diagnosed.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Will be right back.
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Speaker 3 (15:58):
So docta prayther.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Let's up with how isa or osteoarthritis diagnosed.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Best way is imaging X rays is actually what that's for.
One of the things is we're always taking X rays
if we need to deal with a joint, see what's happening,
and then we have them read by.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
A top radiologist.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
As a matter of fact, shout out to Terry Yoakum,
who is our radiologist who reads our X rays. Chiropractic
radiologists gives us a tremendous amount of information. He was
just inducted into the International Skeletal Society, which is like
for a football player winning the Heisman. That is a
(16:42):
huge honor and probably, he said, one of the most
important things that he's been able to do. So it
just shows you the quality of who we have actually
reading our X rays and helm.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So if you come into our office and get X rays,
they're read by him.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
By him.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, he's considered probably one of the top living radiologists
in the.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
World, and I am so grateful that we do that
because there are things that he's found on those.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
X rays that are life saving, life.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Saving, Yeah, cancers, tumors that hadn't been found yet and
were found just in time.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, actually, you know, usually like we've had people with
multiple myeloma, the oncologists say, we don't usually get people
this early mm hm. Usually it's you know, much farther
along and much easier to treat in this type of instance.
And it's things that because he has a sharp buy
a lot of people wouldn't pick that up.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And Jim who does our X rays, Yes, everybody loves
I mean he he just loves that process. Yeah, yeah,
so very important. So medically, you know, they say there's
no cure for osteoarthritis. You know, what are the medical
treatments for me managing asterarthritis symptoms?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, when you're talking about treating it, the most common
thing is nonshortal anti inflammatory drugs. You can also acetometaphin
is oftentimes used, Cortisome shots can sometimes be used, but
by far the most common things are the nonsoil anti
inflammatories and COX two inhibitors. Now, nonshoridal anti inflammatory drugs
(18:25):
has some problems from being used. One you have GI
bleeding is probably one of the most common problems with that,
but also nonsteruidal anti inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen and approx
and those types of things, is that they actually destroy
the joints, They actually inhibit the joints from being regenerated.
(18:46):
And so if you didn't have any nostoarthritis and you
started to take nonsoidal anti inflammatory drugs in three months,
you would start austereoarthritis. So if you're taking it for
you know, two weeks or less, you know about ten days.
As matter of fact, they advise you if you're going
to be taking that, to let you know your physician
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know basically to try to find another way, because then
you start to destroy the joint the same as two
of the COX two inhibitors, and then they actually start
cardiovascular problem.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So it's just a downward cycle sure.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And then of course the other one I see the
metaphin tailanol over the counter. We've heard all about that lately,
liver problems and other different types of issues. So if
you're talking about taking care of joint pain, the pharmaceuticals
are great for two weeks, but you really shouldn't continue
them after that. And if you're taking them on a
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regular basis, you're going to have health issues and actually
increase your degeneration of your joints. So medically the pharmaceutical route,
they're right, it never gets better. Pharmaceutically, however, if you
are treating it structure functionally. We've had people with you know,
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who've gone from thirty percent dist degeneration back to normal discs,
you know, heights and actually clearing up the ostereithritis. So
in structure function type of ways, we actually can retake
the X rays and see the osterei earthritis and the
joint healing taking place. So that is not true of
structure functional care, but it is absolutely true of medical care.
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Is they never fix it?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We do? Okay, well, let's talk about that. How can
structure function care help with osteoarthritis? And maybe before we
go to that, someone new listening, just explain structure function care.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
That's a very good idea.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I have to explain it almost every day, you know,
some people, because it's a whole new paradigm.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, and one of the things is that we have
a medical system and quite frankly, we have the best
disease care in the world, you know, I think everybody
agrees with that, and we spend a great deal on it.
We spend more on healthcare than any other country. But
out of thirty five industrial nations, on our healthcare, we
rank thirty eighth. So we've got something wrong. And the
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reason is is because disease care is important, but it
is I like to describe it like a football team.
So you have offense and defense, and the disease care
is the offense, which you know is really good. So
we have a very high rate of scoring. But we're
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not even putting a defensive team out on the play,
and we expect to win only with an offensive team.
You know they're going to score every time. And so
it's the same way with healthcare. Is the disease care
is the offense, and the structure function care is the defense.
And eighty percent of all healthcare should be structure function care.
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What structure function care is you're trying to bring the
body back into balance, and you're trying to do that structurally,
which is extremely important for osterearthritis, and then also functionally,
which is also very important for osterearthritis.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And you're bringing it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Into balance which is called homeostasis. And homeostasis is the
definition of health, and you know, we really need to
rebuild the health of the body. Disease care is dealing
with symptoms like if I'm having after surgery, give me
a analgesic, you know, so I can and then the
surgery itself. You know, the important heart drugs, the important
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drugs that you might need to take for cancer. You know,
all those types of things are critical. So that twenty
percent is the disease care, eighty percent should be structure
function care. That's why our name is Holistic Integration, where
we're trying to integrate the structure function care with the
disease care.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Okay, so how can structure function care help with us?
Do you arthritis?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
First, structurally, you know, chiropractic is extremely important. Like you know,
you're an occupational therapist and you've always said how much
easier rehab is if we do the chiropractic first, right.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So it's like your knee.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
You know, we need to get the knee strengthened, we
need to get the joint lubricated, we need to get
the nutrients in there so it can heal. We need
to have the natural anti inflammatories in there and putting
all those things in there. But if you don't have
it lined up, it's not going to heal.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Right, right, it's going to say miss the line. Just
think of your car, right right, you get it aligned. Yeah,
if you don't, everything falls apart the evidence of the tires.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
The whole you know, even the all the different types
of cylinder, everything within the car. If it's not lined
up right, it's going to shake it all loose.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
You are not a mechanic, No, I am not a mechanic.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
How did you guess? But yes, so, chiropractic is absolutely critical.
You know, that's one of the big things as far
as I'm going on trying to get the joints lubricated.
That's one of the things that we use an awful
lot of for what we call decompression. And what it
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is is it's not you know like people say, well
I got a traction unit at home, Yeah, I can
do that. It's like, that's not the same thing. What
we do is we take the joint and then it's
a pumping and as you're doing the pumping, then it
starts to get the fluid in there and it really
starts healing hydrates and you can actually feel the pain
(24:41):
going away as you're doing that. Matter of fact, I
had a gentleman came in and he was having neck issues.
He says, yeah, O, my neck pain's gone. My hands,
you know, strength on the nerves. But I still can't
you know, when I move my neck, I can't move
it as far as I should. And then also it's
you know, kind of crack. And I said, well, you
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had an awful lot of austro arthritis. How's the decompression,
cervical decompression going. I chose not to do it, and
I said, being.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Go, no, I love the cervical decompression tanteah, I'm on
those decompression tangs.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah. Yeah, once a week.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And I said that's how you fix the arthritis, and
he goes, okay, okay, it was he did his first session.
I said, well, how was it and he said, well,
I'm moving my neck and it's not popping and I
can actually move it more so I can tell a difference.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
So my bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Sometimes you know, we let patients choose on their treatment plan.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, we can't force people to right, you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Going to always recommend what they need, what they need, right,
what they need. All right, when we come back, let's
talk more about how structure function care can help with osteothritis.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
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most insulting question when you check into a hospital. What
seems to be the problem?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
What seems well?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It seems.
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It seems like everything on my inside wants to be
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What kind of condisiding question?
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The Voice of Health Wellness Tip with doctor Robert Prather
of Holistic Integration. Can structure function care be important for
treatment of ADHD?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It's absolutely There are reasons for everything. Yes, the pharmaceuticals
are at effective means of doing that, but you're not
really curing anything, you're not really fixing anything. It's helping
with the symptomatology while it's in the system only and
causing long term problems and even some short term problems.
So yes, that is something that's an option, but you
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should be pursuing structure function care to find out exactly
what's going on to help with the underlying problem. If
it's heavy metals, the sooner that you can get onto
that the less brain changes actually occur because those neurotoxins
are what is actually causing the problem with brain changes
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structurally and functionally.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Why are proper fatty acids important for ADHD?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Fatty acids make the brain. So when somebody calls you
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made up of fat.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Fatty acids.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
For the repair or the building of the brain is
absolutely essential. Breastfeeding is so important because it really gets
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Speaker 3 (29:57):
The News got a bag.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I'm Lisa Prather, and you're listening to the Voice of
Health with doctor Robert Prether of Holistic Integration, where we
get to the root cause of your health issue from
stiffness to strength, managing osti arthritis naturally and effectively. And
one thing they were saying is that medically there's no
(30:29):
cure for USTe arthritis. Correct, But in structure function care,
we see people going from stiffness to strength to mobility,
and we actually see.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Bony changes and courage changes too, So things can actually
be done for that, right, that's not just you know,
you're stuck with it, which if you're doing disease care,
you are stuck with it. Yeah, you're doing structure function care.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
That can be reversed.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Right. And you were saying eighty percent of people over fifty, yes,
have some form of austerearthritis.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yes, it could be diagnosed with oziothtis. And it's interesting
on osteoarthritis. As it's degenerating, it causes a lot of pain,
but once it completely degenerates, it's actually not really painful
at that point.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, but you can't move, but you can't move and
it affects be too. Balance.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Balance is a big thing that occurs. So you know,
there are problems even after the pain as the degeneration
is occurring, but once it's completely gone, usually the pain's gone.
So oftentimes some of our worst osteoarthritic patients have no pain.
They just can't move their stuff and then they follow along.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, right, which isn't good. Which isn't good.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Well, let's go back to we were talking about how
structure function care can help with osteoarthritis. We talked about
chiropractics so important. Let's talk about acupuncture.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Acupuncture is absolutely great. Know what they're trying to do
with a lot of the pharmaceuticals. Acupuncture actually does because
it's you know, as I'm looking at like someone's low back,
I sit there and I show their spouse how inflamed
it is, and then we do some acupuncture across there.
And I sit there and said, now watch this, and
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it's like, you know, I put a pin in a
balloon and the swelling goes down.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
You don't literally, right, but I mean, you know, they're like.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Little filaments, and you know, so people people hardly feel them,
but you know, and then they get up and it's like, oh, well,
the pain's gone, you know. So acupuncture has an amazing effect.
And one of the things is a lot of people
also with severe osteoarthritis pain and things like that, are
on analgies. It's some type of opiate. And interestingly enough,
(32:52):
as you give opiods, they increase pain. So I don't
have any pain in my body. If I was taking
opiods for three months and stuff, then I would be
in a lot of pain. Because what it does is
it destroys your natural production of opiods and then also
destroys the receptor sites. So as I put the acupuncture needles,
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I've had people who have become opioid dependent. One guy
sit there and now I make sure that everybody knows
that they're going to feel like they got an opiod.
He sits there and he says, you know, I'm very
familiar with opiods, and you had some opiods on the
end of that needles, didn't you. And I said, no,
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I didn't. But let me tell you about the physiology.
When you put the needles in. There's a lot of
things that occur, and they're all good. Your oxytocin goes up,
your natural opiates go up. They even find that the
opioid receptor's heal. That's the power of acupuncture, and it
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feels because you're have a natural opiid production, and that
opioid production is important to maintain your equilibrium, you know,
throughout your body. It keeps you in homeostasis so that
you don't feel pain. And so it's like all pharmaceuticals.
They're great in the short term, but the more you take,
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the longer you take them, the more problems that occur.
And opiod's, the analgesics, the nonstul anti inflammatory drugs are
very good for short term, very very bad for any
type of long term type of thing, and the more
that you have to take them, the more problems. So
always that can be a great stop gap in acute situations,
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but it should never be a treatment for chronic osteoarthritis.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, is it okay to say? I mean, I say
acupuncture is one of the best anti inflammatory treatments.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
It takes the inflammation down, it changes the physiology, it
releives the pain almost immediately. It's something that's highly recommended
for these types of situations and something that's an essential
part of our treatment.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Okay, what other care. I know, we do supplementation.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Sure, so yes, one of the big things that everybody
says is glucosamine sulfate and condroit and sulfate are two
of the most important things that are out there as
far as on supplementation. But just a little caveat have
you ever heard of NOx gelatin?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
So NOx gelatin was put together not as a jello
product or anything like that, but was put out as
a medicine. And basically it was chicken cartilage put into
a form that was easily taken. And so the doctor
who put it together had been putting it out that
this was just like a care and they finally convinced
(35:52):
Harvard Medical University to do a study on NOx gelatin
as opposed to pharmaceuticals, in which one we'd be well,
the NOx gelton actually kicked the butt of the drugs,
and yeah, and you can actually make it taste good. Basically,
if you're looking at carlage, it's made up of two
different things, glucosamine sulfate and conjoint and sulfate.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So it's something.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
That is basically you know what they're taking along those lines,
and if you have a choice between the two. The
glucosamine sulfate actually is smaller and it actually makes quicker
changes than the condroit and sulfate, though oftentimes will combine them,
so sometimes the combination sometimes one over the other, but
usually the glucosamine sulfate for osteoarthritis is probably one of
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the best products out there.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
And everything we're talking about in the products is things
we carry care realistic integration.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Another thing is hyaluronic acid. Now oftentimes they will do
injections on that, but we actually give it orally and
it does amazingly. Between and seventy you have eighty percent
hyaluronic acid less than your body.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Say that again, between forty and seventy years of age.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yes, you lose eighty percent of your body's hyaluronic acid.
That's why you get saggy skin and then the joints
kind of sag and everything kind of drops.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
That was gravity.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, well, hyaluronic acid keeps everything from dropping, uh huh.
So hyaluronic acid is something for you know, one to
keep you healthy, but also it's an amazing beauty product too,
you know, and is very much involved in your youth
and vitality. Niceinamide is also something that's very well proven,
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which is a B three derivative and that has a
huge effect that they found Sam It's a methionine amino
acid in a form, and.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
That is really really cool, critical for a lot of osteoarthritis.
Vitamin C. You're dead.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
You know, your dad had a lot of bad problems
and he read Linus Palling sit there and said that
he was taking all this vitamin C and it took
care of his back pain. And he said, hmm, and
your dad's quite a.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Reader and researcher, and I remember growing up him taking
vitamin C all the time.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, and he started taking on his back pain on
a way which was basically helping with his degeneration. Vitamin D,
which is quite understandable why that would be critical, and
so many people are low on vitamin D and that
really contributes a lot to osteoarthritis. Panothenic acid, Vitamin A,
vitamin E, paradoxing, zinc copper and the zinc copper ratio
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is extremely important for helping to make the proper cartilage
born is something that people don't think about but has
oftentimes huge effects. Manganese. I've had people with severe joint pains.
Gave him some Mayanese and it all went away.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
And then vitamin K.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
And interestingly enough, vitamin K is extremely important for USTe
arthritis of the knees.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
So you have why the knees. We don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
That's a really good question. We have no idea where
that is. And there's other things that can be very
important along those lines. If you're talking about Herbels Boswellias
errata is absolutely well known to be very important picnogenals
to keep the free radicals down.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Ginger I love ginger.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, Ginger is actually something that's really good for taking
down the inflammation and the joints. Devil's claw, yuka, protalytic enzymes,
those are all some of the things that you can
actually take. We have something called pro trauma, which is
a combination of several of these. I had a gentleman
who came in had knee promise, was a big runner
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and he was starting to have some kidney and olivery shoes
just from taking too much nonstol into inflammatory drugs. He
was definitely having a lot of issues with it. I says,
you know, this actually makes your problem worse generation and
he was really busy. He didn't want to come in,
and I said, well, we've got one product, give that
a try, pro Trauma.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
And so now he's just he's he loves his pro Trauma.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
He took it and he says, wow, this works better.
And as he was going along, he said, my knees
are getting better too.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
And kidney and.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, all the side effects were gone. So I sat there,
I said, you know, and that's that's all he did.
And he took care of him. And now he's just
running like crazy. He doesn't come in for all the
other things. He's too busy.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
He's too busy running.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
But yeah, it's like, okay, you can run for a
couple hours, but you can't come in.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
But you know, we meet people where they are. We
meet people where there are. All right, we'll be right
back and arthritis.
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Speaker 2 (41:47):
We have eleven that are already prepared for specific types
of purposes. The first one is athletic performance. If your
workout is kind of dragging in the gym, you'll see
a big difference the original one. It kind of covers
everything immune, stress, dehydration, then the hydration one, which is
especially good for hangovers, and it's surprising how quickly that
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gets you. Echo to part one for energy. That's real
popular for people who have kind of been down. High
dose vitamin C, libido enhancer, mood support for depression and
anxiety recovery. That's post workout cosmetic if you have acting wrinkles,
and then weight loss, diet and detox, and then aches
and pains, so if you're sore, then this kind of
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clears it out. Most people can feel a difference if
they need IV therapy within an hour. So what's great
about it. It does act very quickly. That's one of
the great things about IV therapy. A lot of things
can take a little while before you start to notice it,
but when you do IV therapy, it's like, oh wow,
I feel much much better, and I feel much better
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right now.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
And I've done it in our office. It's usually when
my energy's been low or.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
The hydration one.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Sure, I felt wonderful after it.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah, it's kind of like one of those things like, oh,
where have you been all my life? Yeah, you know,
as you're talking about IV therapy right now is the
perfect time to be thinking about that. You feel like
you're kind of slipping, you know, as far as your
immune system, you're not doing well and you need a boost.
This does absolutely wonders. The big one that I really
(43:22):
really appreciated and what I really wanted the ivs for
is glue tothion. Glue tothion is a very important antioxidant
free radical scavenger. If you are low on glue to thion,
it's very difficult by mouth to be able to get
it up to part, whereas IV is definitely the best
way to get glute tothion into the system and we
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do a blood test on there which will show up
whether you are actually low on glue tothion and that's
something that you might need, and so we can actually
test that out and see that that glue tothion is
something that would really make a big difference when you
get that into the system and you need it. It's
something that can make very very quick difference. Glutethion is
probably the most important thing that you want to deliver
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through IV because that's about the only way you can
get it into the system.
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Restoring Hope. You're listening to the Voice of Health with
doctor Robert Prather of Holistic Integration, where our mission is
(45:38):
restoring hope to our patients from stiffness to strength, managing
osteoarthritis naturally and effectively. And we were talking about the
different treatments that we provided Holistic Integration structure function care
that can help with osteoarthritis. Talked about chiropractic acupuncture, supplementation.
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What about any topical things that you recommend.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
We have about nine ten different lineaments that we use
a lot of them are herbyl that come from the
shell in Temple. They've been around for about two thousand
years wow, and each one is designed for a different
type of problem. Our rehab person is like, oh, I
love putting the lineaments on people and seeing just the
(46:26):
changes that take place right away.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Right, they can buy them and use them and use.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Them at home.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
So yes, we have a ton of liniments herbal limits
that are extremely effective. We also have cutting edge types
of ones or one TDC liniments, and so linaments and
topical things are very important. One of the things that
we do is we can put the liniment on and
then we can also then drive it in either with
ultrasound or electrical stem Antophreesis is a very common type
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of thing that we do to really get pain and
inflammation under control, so we can even drive it in further.
We also have dmso that helps to bring the liniment in.
So we have a lot of different types of ways
to hit that and really keep things under control for
people so that they can just put them on and say, wow,
you know that just made all the difference in the world. Right,
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So we really encourage the use of that.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
So can lifestyle changes like diet and exercise really make
a difference for OA.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yes, and again exercise you're looking at the balance. So
one of the things is you can exercise that over
exercising or exercising wrong can actually cause problems.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
So it's a balance.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Like one thing that you and I've done is we've
got a personal trainer, you know, who really knows how
to make sure that the body's balance. And even our
son who is quite a strong boy who has sold
a lot of weight, and he was starting to actually
overstress his joints. So we got him in with a
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personal trainer and told him how to balance things. It's
really made a big difference for him. So making sure
that you are doing your exercises correctly and not overstressing
the joints is a very important type of thing. Too
much exercise in the wrong way can certainly be a problem.
Too little exercise, of course, is a whole nother problem
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of itself. So finding homeostasis and balance and everything is
an important type of thing. Like one of the things
that we find is that people are really heavily exercised
into a flection position in our whole life is right
now flection and really extension. It is one of the
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big things. Like one of the things you see me
doing whenever we get a chance and we're just doing
different things is I'll get on our big Swiss ball
and then do extension exercises on it. It really helps
out and is a major reason for a lot of
problems for people.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
So I under especially as you get older, everything's compressing
out right, you know, yeah, thank you, I'm talking about myself.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
One of the things that's interesting about diet is people
don't realize, but about ten to twelve thousand people die
from austeoarthritis every year because it becomes because the austereiarthritis
is so severe that it actually can cause death. So
they took people who were hospitalized and in severe osteoarthritic
conditions and they had them fast for ten days, and
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eighty percent.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
Of them almost were clear. Wow.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
So diet plays a very big role and one of
the things that people can do in severe austereoarthritis finding
out what food allergies you have. Food sensitivities can make
a big difference with osteoarthritis if you don't repeat food
until the fifth day. So like let's say you have
spendach on Monday, you want wait five days to have
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spinach again, so you don't repeat any of the foods.
It's called the five day food rotation diet. And the
reason is is because any globulens only live in your
body for four days fifth day, you don't have a
reaction or sensitivity reaction. And if you reduce the inflammation
because eighty percent of your immune systems around the gut,
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eighty percent of the inflammation is from your gut. And
if you reduce the inflammation, guess what osteoarthritis actually can disappear.
So diet can be extremely important and advising people on
exactly how to take care of their diet can be
a critical aspect of someone's care.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah, and just you know, thinking as you're talking of
the diagnostics that we do at Holistic Integration for ostere arthritis,
or you know, the x rays very important. You talked
about zinc cooperation is important, So hair analysis.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, the mineral balances, Yeah, with the copper, magnesiums off,
manganese slow or too high, all those types of things
start to play a role. Also, heavy metals, if you
have heavy metal issues, that can kick off ostereithrais, So
there can be a lot of things that are going on.
Got inflammation is something that we look at with the
GI silka. All these types of things make a very
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big difference with the ostereithritis.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Right, and you always say, you know, all these lamps
are like the blueprint to your health. You know, I
was just talking to someone. She's just getting tired of
not getting to the root issue with her doctor. You know,
it's not getting to the root of the problem so
that I can prevent you know, they're waiting for the
disease process.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Well, one of the things we do on everyone that
has the muscular sculptor issues is we do range of
motion tests and then also we do a picture of
their structural alignment so as easy way to follow up
because we don't like to X ray too often. Right
as we actually look and then we recheck on is
the range of motion getting back to normal, which always
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as we're working with people, it does.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah, they're doing what we have fun appointments.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Those are fun appointments because then we show them the
pre impost and then also the structural where you see
all the missalaneness going on and then you see how
much more balance it is. One of the things that
forward head carriage that kicks off an awful lot of
austri arthritis and also throws off anesthetics. That's one of
the things is if you're out of balance on all
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these things, you can't move and then your structures off.
It ages you very quickly. And if you can reverse
those things, you're also reversing the aging process and you
can get those things under control, and it can make
a huge difference, right.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
And hopefully avoid joint replacement.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's one of the things that a
lot of people say, is can you keep me from
getting the hip replacement or the knee replacement?
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Oftentimes we can.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
So if someone wants to start managing and there are
oste arthritis naturally, what's the very first step they should take?
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Find a structure function doctor. All right, all right, thank you,
doctor pray the thank you.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Lisa Holistic Integration is located at eighty nine oh two
North Meridian Street on the north side of Indianapolis, just
south of the I four sixty five loop. If we
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