July 26, 2025 • 54 mins
Indianapolis is one of the hotbeds of Histoplasmosis, which is often misdiagnosed and can lead to other health issues throughout the body. In this episode, you'll learn:
—What Histoplasmosis is and the symptoms of it, which "seems like the flu when you get it". And how "a lot of doctors aren't even aware of it".
—The story of how Dr. Prather's own father suffered from COPD as a result of an underlying Histoplasmosis infection he contracted as a kid by being in charge of the chicken coop.
—The difficulty in accurately testing for Histoplasmosis, which can be misdiagnosed as Tuberculosis, Lyme Disease, Sarcoidosis, or Macular Degeneration. And how Histoplasmosis is "the number one cause of blindness in Indiana".
—How Antibiotics and Steroids that are often prescribed by doctors will actually make the Histoplasmosis "take off" and become "systemic".
—Why Indianapolis is such a center for Histoplasmosis outbreaks. And why Dr. Prather says that everyone who has lived in the area for 5 years has Histoplasmosis.
—The natural products Dr. Prather has found to be even more effective for Histoplasmosis than prescription drugs because they actually rebuild the body's immune system. And why Dr. Prather says "the strongest anti-fungal medicine known to man" is Oregano Oil.
—The importance of Homeopathy, which Dr. Prather says has made a big difference in "the real serious cases" of Histoplasmosis. And why Dr. Prather says "you are going to have problems" if your Vitamin D and Vitamin A are low.
—How a weakened immune system, nutritional deficiency, or stress are usually the reasons that a Histoplasmosis infection takes off in the first place. And how you probably have a secondary Histoplasmosis infection that needs to be addressed if you live in Indianapolis and have Long COVID.
—Why Chiropractic, Acupuncture, and Diathermy are helpful for Histoplasmosis. And the Spleen-21 Acupuncture point that causes people to feel immediately better when they are sick.
—How Dr. Prather has had patients suffering from Kidney failure and patients dealing with Hypertension whose real underlying issue was Histoplasmosis.
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—What Histoplasmosis is and the symptoms of it, which "seems like the flu when you get it". And how "a lot of doctors aren't even aware of it".
—The story of how Dr. Prather's own father suffered from COPD as a result of an underlying Histoplasmosis infection he contracted as a kid by being in charge of the chicken coop.
—The difficulty in accurately testing for Histoplasmosis, which can be misdiagnosed as Tuberculosis, Lyme Disease, Sarcoidosis, or Macular Degeneration. And how Histoplasmosis is "the number one cause of blindness in Indiana".
—How Antibiotics and Steroids that are often prescribed by doctors will actually make the Histoplasmosis "take off" and become "systemic".
—Why Indianapolis is such a center for Histoplasmosis outbreaks. And why Dr. Prather says that everyone who has lived in the area for 5 years has Histoplasmosis.
—The natural products Dr. Prather has found to be even more effective for Histoplasmosis than prescription drugs because they actually rebuild the body's immune system. And why Dr. Prather says "the strongest anti-fungal medicine known to man" is Oregano Oil.
—The importance of Homeopathy, which Dr. Prather says has made a big difference in "the real serious cases" of Histoplasmosis. And why Dr. Prather says "you are going to have problems" if your Vitamin D and Vitamin A are low.
—How a weakened immune system, nutritional deficiency, or stress are usually the reasons that a Histoplasmosis infection takes off in the first place. And how you probably have a secondary Histoplasmosis infection that needs to be addressed if you live in Indianapolis and have Long COVID.
—Why Chiropractic, Acupuncture, and Diathermy are helpful for Histoplasmosis. And the Spleen-21 Acupuncture point that causes people to feel immediately better when they are sick.
—How Dr. Prather has had patients suffering from Kidney failure and patients dealing with Hypertension whose real underlying issue was Histoplasmosis.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hi, I'm Lisa Praither and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. Well, today we're going to talk about histoplasmosis.
What you need to know. And it's interesting, of all
(00:34):
the episodes, we have not done a full show on hytoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah. Yeah, it just shows you that there's an awful
lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
There is a lot to talk about because.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We've been doing this years and then still finding things
that we haven't even mentioned. They are actually pretty common.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We ran into somebody and they were saying they were
just diagnosed with histoplasmosis, and we thought we need to
do a show on hystoplusmoss. Yeah. So, Dajabraither, can you
explain what hytoplasmosis is and how it affects the body.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Sure, it's a fungal disease spread by birds. Matter of fact,
my grandparents used to keep birds in the house. It
would calm down my grandmother. And one of the things
that there was a problem is is oftentimes they would
get an eye infection and it was hisstoplasmosis that they
(01:27):
would have, and so the histoplasmosis is basically found in
birds and bird droppings, so it's not really a disease
that you catch from another person, and you don't actually
necessarily catch it from the bird itself. But what happens
is that the droppings get into the soil and then
(01:48):
they dry and then they become airborne and then you
breathe them in, or they also land on your eyes
and you take it into your body and becomes an infection.
So one of the big things along those lines is
anywhere there has been a lot of birds and droppings
(02:09):
accumulate over the time, then the ground actually holds it.
And oftentimes what happens is when you dig into the ground,
it kind of releases the spores and then you breathe
it in and then you actually get it.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Is going to be looking around for bird dropping.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Or if you know so a lot of construction workers,
you know, people who actually are you know, ditches, things
like that. Gardening is a big type of way that
you can get it. But that's how people basically get it.
Another thing is bats also carry it, and so bat
dropping so in caves, going into and having guano is
(02:48):
what they call it and what it does right, and
then it drives can get into that. Yeah, I know
he might have hstoplasmosis. No one knows, but it's actually
something and that's around you know a lot of different
areas and so those are good big areas to get at.
Chicken coops is actually a big way to actually pick
(03:09):
it up.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Also interesting. So how did you first become involved in
studying and treating histoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, the first time that I actually came across it
was my dad had a lot of lung issues and
different health issues and we did some testing on him
and I found out it was histoplasmosis. Matter of fact,
when he was evaluated by pollmonologists, he had asked how
long has he been smoking because he thought he was
(03:36):
a smoker, And I said, no, he's got histoplasmosis. And
he says, oh, okay, yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But a lot of the symptoms he was having is
like he had smoked.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Right, Yeah, because of the you know, the lung disease
actually developed into COPD m HM.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So why do you think histoplasmosis is often underdiagnosed or misunderstood.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, one of the things is the lab testing often
well it's not something that people think of right away,
right it's not one that actually a lot of doctors
aren't even aware of hystoplasmosis, which is interesting. It's basically
something that is also gives a lot of false negatives,
so a lot of the testing that you do for
(04:23):
hystoplasmosis will actually give a false negative and so it
can appear to be something else. And so you know,
people doctors, you know, either think of well, you know,
they've got a virus or they've got some type bacterial infection,
and a lot of areas it's actually misdiagnosis tuberculosis. So
(04:45):
that's a very common type of thing that it's actually
misdiagnosed for. If it gets into the eyes, it's oftentimes
misdiagnosed as macular degeneration. Interesting, so you know, there's a
lot of things that can go on with that. But
it's interesting because the histoplasmosis first usually hits the lungs,
(05:07):
and one of the things that the body does is
when it attacks it, it actually usually calcifies it. That's
one of the things that you can actually see on
the lung X rays if you're doing a chest X ray.
A matter of fact, I get a lot of reports
back when we're doing chest X rays, probably old histoplasmosis
infection showing up, you know, some of the calcifications in
(05:31):
the lungs. So it calcifies, It usually calcifies.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And what does that cause?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Oh, the calcifications, just lung calcifications is usually what they
call it, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, So let's talk about some of the symptoms that.
What are the most common symptoms of histoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, it seems almost like the flu when you get it,
So you get fever, chills, you get headaches, muscle eggs, fatigue, cough,
just discomfort. It can also be on the skin, so
oftentimes people can it's an undiagnosed type of.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Skin problem like a rash.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
People actually get all sorts of different types of you know,
diagnosises along those lines, and it winds up to be
some histol on the skin because they were digging around
in the ground and then they actually pick up the infection.
So and some of the other things is that it
can then actually spread to other parts of the body.
It actually is the number one cause for blindness in Indiana.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
In Indiana. In Indiana, the number one cause of blindness.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Number one cause of blindness, and usually what they do is,
oftentimes they misdiagnose it as macular degeneration because as the
body's actually fighting the infection in the eyes, it again
kind of calcifies. There's some scar tissue in through there
and people see almost like floaters in the eyes. Is
(07:00):
oftentimes how that occurs. It can also then go to
the kidneys, so it causes an awful lot of problems
for kiddy disease. It can also hit the adrenals, cause
a lot of fatigue. It can actually go to the
heart and cause milocarditis.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
It can also then even cause meningitis if it goes
you know, too long. I've had patience with that histoplasmosis meningitis.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Now does it you said, initially it feels like flu,
the flu, So does it get upper respiratory?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Upper respiratory. So what you do is you have the
acute primary histoplasmosis, which is almost always the lungs. It
can also hit the skin or actually can settle in
the eyes.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's when it said it's a cute phase.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
A cute phase. And then once it becomes you know,
actually endemic and the lungs, it becomes chronic cavitating histoplasmosis.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And then it then can be disseminated throughout the body
and actually caused quite a few different health problems throughout interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So the second sea why it's misdiagnosed well, are misunderstood well.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Even on the blood work. One of the things is
that you know somebody has with fungal infections, you don't
see like a real rise in the white blood cell
like you do with a bacterial infection. You know, you
don't see the same pattern. So what happens is that
it's kind of misleading and people don't really get it.
(08:28):
Most doctors don't, and it's not the first thing that
they do. And one of the problems that actually happens is,
you know, you'll get this infection and then somebody will
start you on an antabotic regimen, and you can't go
on an antibiotic regimen because it actually will take down
the bacteria. It'll actually make the histoplasmosis take.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Off because it's fungal.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Because it's fungal. Oh or you get a steroid which
helps to take down the inflammation, helps with the lung infection.
We can see immune system and then the fungus actually
takes off. I had a patient who came into me
and she moved in to Indianapolis and got a real
bad infection, and they said, well, you know, you must
(09:10):
have had some type of flu, but now you must
have a you know, you're showing up on your chest
sex ray that you've you know, you've got some probably pneumonia.
It was actually histoplasmosis. Put her on strong antabotics, didn't work,
so they increased the antabotics and increased it some more,
and then it went.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Systemic, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And then the kidneys function started to go down all
sorts of problems and then even went into meningitis. And
then and then she came into me because it's like
they're killing me. I don't know what's going on. And
I said, well, these antabotics should have worked in this
type of situation. I bet you it's histo. And sure
enough it wound up to be started on a program
(09:50):
and then got it under control. But it's something that
is well, I mean, just to give you an idea,
you know how house you remember that, yes, yeah, we're
kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
One of the things that was like the puzzlerer was
somebody had hystoplasmosis. And then there was also a BBC
program on parasites eating up my body and this one
person they couldn't figure it out, figured out finally they
figured out it was histo plasmosis and then but the
patient eventually died from it. So it can be very dangerous.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, let's talk about this patient and what you did
for her. Yeah, you want to do that when we
come back. All right, we'll do that when we come back.
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Pro droppings on my windows seal, probably God Histo glasshmos.
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Praither of Holistic Integrations the most comprehensive wellness center in
the Midwest are from well We're back. We're talking about histoplasmoses.
What you need to know? And doctor Praither, you recommended
that song to be played by Johnny.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Cash, one of my favorite artists.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
What's that song called beans for breakfast? Jeans for breakfast.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
It's about a guy who wasn't a very good husband
and his wife left him. So he was having beans
for breakfast with a plastic fork.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
And how to get histoplasmoses. He let birds in the
house or.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Something, Yeah, it was he left the window open. He said,
crows pooped up. Oh, and then he breathed it and
he probably says I have hystoplasmosis. So well, that actually
brings up an important part. One of the things on
the susceptibility on the histoplasmosis is actually because you have
a weakened immune system. So people with HIV are very
(16:07):
very sensitive along those lines. That's something that they need
to watch out for a lot of people that are
on biologics where they actually for autoimmune for weekend immune system,
or on some type of transplant. Histoplasmosis is a real problem.
So one of the things that actually kicks off histoplasmosis,
(16:27):
it's not eating right. Not getting enough vitamin A is
a very big thing because that's very important for lung health.
So anytime you go low on vitamin A, your susceptibility
to histoplasmosis increases. So one of the things is histoplasmosis
is very common in the homeless. Alcoholics is also very
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big and guys who don't take care of themselves. So
he was a guy whose wife had left him and
basically the house was totally trashed because he wouldn't clean
up anything. Probably part of the reason she left.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
And then so he's having beans for breakfast, so his
immune system is down. Yeah, and so he gets histoplasmosis
and they probably get hytoplasma.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
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of his songs when we did a show on hemorrhoids.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Oh yeah, Ring of Fire, Ring a fire Boy. Johnny
Cash is really helpful for us.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So one thing I want to mention to the CDC
says that histoplasmosis is often misdiagnosed or diagnosed late.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Sure, and that's what happened with Thisco.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, it was about that.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We were talking about that. Yeah, yeah, and so she
was completely misdiagnosed and was put on things that actually
made the problem worse.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well, you said, right, antibiotics, that was pneumonia.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah. Finally they did a lung culture and found out
that it was histoplasma, which took a while, and so
they switched her to some fungal medicines, but it still
really wasn't working. So getting her in and then starting
there on some natural products really kind of helped to
get that thing going. So because one of the things
(18:16):
is the medicine, the fungal medicine actually was taking down
her kidneys, which was already a problem, so they had
to stop it. So what do you do in those
types of situations? While you go natural, right, which actually
helps to rebuild the immune system. There's actually quite a
few things that actually are helpful on a natural basis
that have really good effects on histoplasmosis.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And we're going to talk about that, but before we do,
let's talk about how it's diagnosed. How's histoplasmosa is typically diagnosed.
And I'm sure you've already talked about some challenges with that.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It is.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
There are actually several different ways of doing it. They
have improved that quite a bit, but it's still has
it still gives false negatives. So you can do blood tests,
you can do some urine tests. You can also do samples,
you know, spewed them. You can actually go in and
get a lung sample to actually check that out. So
sometimes you have to really dig on that to get
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the proper diagnosis. But oftentimes, being a practitioner and seeing
it quite a bit, I can tell kind of when
that is actually showing up. You know, it's interesting because
a lot of people who come in who says I
have limes, actually is chronic histoplasmosis? Interesting because you get
all the and they're misdiagnosed, you know, and the lime tests, well,
(19:35):
the lime test didn't really show up, you know, really
for sure. But you know, I'm sure I've got lines.
But you know, when you sit there and you tell
somebody you got limes, they go, oh no, Or you
sit there and say, histoplasmosis. Okay, yeah, what is that?
It's not as exciting having limes. Yeah, it is a
(19:57):
little bit more. Yeah, fun to say, but it can
actually show up along those lines. A lot of people
with the long covid also around in this area also
developed pistel plasmosis, so oftentimes histoplasmosis is not the only
infection going on.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Now, you know Indiana. So histoplasmosis you said, was the
number one reason for blindness in Indiana? Sure is Indiana?
Is it because we're on a swamp?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean basically yeah, yeah, let me let me tell
you the history on that. Okay, So histoplasmosis follows the
migrations of birds, So there's migration patterns, and of course
the birds come settle in different types of places, poop
a lot, and then move on. And I don't know
if you've ever seen Canadian geese after they're done, it's,
(20:46):
you know, everything's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And yeah, we have a blue heron. We live on
six acres of water pond and the blue heron likes
to go right over our house. Right, we have a
gazebo and there's blue hair and poop is large.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah. I don't ever test blue hair and for ysto plasmosis,
so maybe.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
But they are beautiful.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
But these migratory birds all have histoplasmosis. And one of
the things is that Indianapolis was a swamp at one
time and on the migratory pathway, so if you had
come back here before the swamp was drained and then
of course it made it really fertile ground to grow.
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That's why Indianapolis was wealthy and actually developed was because
of the fertile ground here. But they drained the swamp
and then started to plant. It kicked up all this
old birddo that had been around forever. So there was
it's just like caked with histoplasmosis. And we probably thought
the highest concentration of histo in the ground of any
(21:54):
place in the.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
World, any place in the world.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And wow, so the biggest like the biggest outbreak of
hystoplasmosis was back in nineteen seventy eight in Indianapolis. And
so when worldwide when they talk about histoplasmosis and a
big outbreak, Indianapolis is actually mentioned is probably the place
with the biggest outbreak ever of histoplasmosis.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So we need to be thinking of that. Well, these symptoms.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Quite Frankly, if you've lived here in Indianapolis for five years,
you have had histoplasmosis. Interesting, there's basically you know, as
I was talking to specialists along this line, they said, well, Indianapolis,
you can test it, and everybody's going to test positive.
(22:41):
You know, it's just whether it's an active infection or
not giving problems. So you have to kind of differentiate that.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Right, And if your immune system is compromised.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
If you have an immune likely if you have chronic
epsteine bar virus, you know, or if you do have
lines where it cuts here or some type of tickborne illness,
histoplasmosis which is already there, is probably going to kick up.
So it's going to be a part of the picture,
and oftentimes is not the only infection going on, but
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it should be considered.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So now we're not only the glider capital of the world,
we're also at histoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes. And also we are also the biggest place for allergies,
you know, like the pollen and stuff is Evansville, Indiana,
and from that center, as you go out from there,
it gets less, huh. So we also are the biggest
allergy center of North America.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
We love our Indiana.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
But we love our Indiana.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
We love our Indiana for so many other reasons. Right.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
But you know, so everybody who's from Indianapolis, if there
have been here anytime at all, have had histoplasmosis.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, so when we come back, let's talk about the
treatment for histoplasmosis, both medically we've talked a little bit,
but also what we do at Holistic Integration will be right.
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Absolutely critical. The great cardiologists already know, and if you
look at the textbooks, balancing out the minerals is one
of the most important things because again, the heart is
beating so often it's the mineral pathways on there that
allow the muscles to actually work. If those minerals get
out of balance, then you actually get abnormal heart rhythms.
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One of the quickest ways that you can improve function
of the heart is to balance out the minerals and
get the minerals to where they need to be so
that heart has the tools.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
To be able to work correctly, and we check minerals
through a hair.
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Seranalysis and blood tests. The combination of the two really
gives us the picture that we need. A wife told
her husband and forced him to come into our office
because in the business that they were in there had
been three guys who had had heart attacks. And we
did a blood test on him, of course doing the diagnostics,
and then I want to emphasize how important that is,
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and his magnesium was so low that the lab called
me with an emergency phone call, said you need to
get hold of this guy and get him on magnesium immediately.
Because what happens, especially with males, when you're under stress,
you use up a lot of magnesium. Women it's usually
more potassium. But if you actually started to get too
low on that, he was ready for a heart attack
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like any second. So these guys that are real stressed,
high businessmen that are on the golf course, they fall
over dead from a heart attack. Wasn't expected. Usually the
stress has actually depleted a nutritional and they are ready
to die from it.
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I'm Lisa Prether, and you're listening to the Voice of
Health with doctor Robert Prether of Holistic Integration. Where we
get to the root cause of your health issue. Well,
we're talking about histoplasmosis. What you need to know and
very interesting topic doctor Prather, especially you know what you
(29:31):
talked about here in Indiana. You know histoplasmosis here in
Indiana leading cause of blindness HM. A lot of times
it's misdiagnosed or diagnosed late. So let's talk about what
are some of the treatments used at Holistic Integration for hisstoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, one of the products, now I actually had a
little about hastoplasmosis not too long ago, and I use
a Standard Process product called Infiplex and newmotrophin PMG Amfiplex
is absolutely amazing for histoplasmosis and something that we use
an awful lot in our practice. As I was talking
(30:08):
to someone some of the tough people in Standard Process,
they said, probably the most overlooked product that they have
is inmfiplex, and it's absolutely wonderful for getting the lungs
back to where they need to be. Has the proper
types of vitamin A, so getting that backup to par
that's one of the things that combination on it actually
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we see very quick results. Also along those lines are regano.
So if you're talking about the strongest anti fungal medicine
out there is not amphotericin which B which is the
one that they use for really serious cases of histoplasmosis,
(30:53):
but really oregano is actually the strongest antifungal known to man.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
And we saw that.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
In oil we have, we got oil, but that is
something that's really really good. Tea tree oil is something
that also is very good anti fungal. Garlic. We use
something called wild bear garlic and that's a very strong
type of a herbal Also for the histoplasmosis.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Is that a pill form.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And then along those lines, venus flytrap and aritidyl are
two real strong immune boosters. Those are something that I
always checked to see severe cases as long as they're
not taking some other medicines and we rule out. Methylene
blue is also something that has been in some cases
extremely useful. So that's something that we also used to
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actually get the histoplasmosis under control.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And how did you know you had histoplasmosis?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It was just checking on it. You know. I had
some other had a little one of those covids that
went through and so I had that. So I hit
that and I said, oh, I've got something else. So
I checked on it and the infiplex and the newotrophy
and got things under control pretty quickly. Took a couple
bottles of it, but it worked.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
But I mean diet has a lot to do with it. Stress,
all those types of things. Yeah, so you need to
look at all those things. But one of the things
that we have is homeopathy.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I love my homeopathy.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yep. Homeopathy is so we can actually make a homeopathic
product for histoplasmosis, and that has really saved quite a
few on the real serious cases. That has really made
a big difference, And so getting that into someone's system
really helps to turn them around too. So those are
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a lot of the products that we hit vitamin's minimals.
We check those all out, make sure they're up on
their bees. Vitamin D is very well known to be
a critical part. If you are low on your vitamin
D and vitamin A, you're going to have problems. And
of course your absorption there fatty acid, fat soluble vitamins,
(33:09):
and if your gallbladder's not working well and you're not
getting the bile into your digestive, you're probably not absorbing
it well. So actually supplementing non vitamin A and vitamin
D are two things that can be extremely important.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, and your vitamin as are your yellow and orange
fruit and vegetables, sure, cod liver oil.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Sure. One of the things that almost every society that
was civilized would always look to do is to make
sure that you had a grain only yield in your
diet and then also making sure that you got yellow
vegetables squash. Like the Indians, what they would do is
they would take corn and beans, and then they would
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then also grow squash along yellow squash to get their
vitamin A and that's how they would keep healthy.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So yeah, we're growing a lot of that in our garden.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah. So you talked about like the natural anti fungals
that are real effective. You talked about a rag and
of oil, garlic, really important Dutch prather. Do you believe
natural remedies could ever replace anti fungal medications, you know,
in mild cases or are they always complementary? What's your
thought on that.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's a real good point. You need to find out
what's going to get things under control as quickly. So
we never you know, ruled out the pharmaceuticals. But one
of the problems that's happening is that the pharmaceuticals it's
just like we're in a post antibiotic world. We're also
founding that the anti fungals are also not working as
well as they did before. Now we do not find
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the same problem with natural products, right, So, you know,
because the natural products have been around for literally probably
a million years that you know, it's well established that
it's going to that way. So one of the things
that they find veterinary medicine is really interesting. I actually
(35:06):
get a lot of information from reading veterinary journals, whereas
in the human medical world it's very much controlled by
pharmaceuticals as far as what they write, and in veterinary
all they care about is results. So one of the
things is that there's an awful lot of articles on
how to deal with different types of infections in a
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post pharmaceutical age, because we've kind of overused things and
so there's a resistance that wasn't there before. So a
lot of the medicines that we use just don't work anymore.
Matter of fact, there are certain types of funguses that
actually there's a Candida arius and some other things that
when you give an antifungal for it, it actually takes
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off even worse.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, I don't know. When I just hear the antifungal medications,
they just seem harsh to me.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Well, yeah, I mean, like you know, you can get
you know, the kidneys shut down taking them. Liver problems
can also occur, So the longer you take them, you know,
the more likely that you are to have issues. All
pharmaceuticals cause problems in and of themselves, whereas you can
take most of the natural remedies much much longer without
(36:18):
really negative side effects. A matter of fact, the whole
system improves.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And it's helping your body. It's working with your body
sure to heal it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Actually, yeah, it actually works with the body and it's
much more integrates with our system because it's natural and
natural things actually kind of cooperate and you don't have
the drop off in the immune system and the damage
to the organs like you do with the pharmaceuticals. Matter
of fact, the immune system actually boosts and gets better.
One of the main problems that actually occurs is usually
(36:50):
the reason that the histo took off on you. It's
because of a weakened immune system, right, or some nutritional
deficiencies that's leading to that, or stress that actually that.
So you know, working along those lines has a lot
of benefits. And in the veterinary medicine, there's a lot
of articles on which types of things will work the best.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I mean, it's just so interesting how well we're taking
care of our animals and not ourselves.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Well yeah, yeah, you know there are some of the
dog food is better than the human food. Well, it's like,
you know, there's a several I mean, we talked about
some of them, but there's an awful lot of other
things that can be very helpful. Barbering with the golden
seal uba ERSI. In other words, there's a tremendous number
(37:37):
of possibilities of things that might work, and we can
switch around and see what's going to work the best
in what situation. And so it's not like we're I
actually have many many, many more choices naturally than I
would pharmaceutically, right, so we can kind of play around
switch them all of a sudden, you know, where you
(38:00):
using one product that's working well, and then all of
a sudden it's not because it builds up a resistance.
Then we switch it, and then we can actually measure
how that's going. We do something called well it's galthotic
skin resistance, so we can actually see how the body's
responding to things as they're taking it and know when
to kind of switch.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Which that's really interesting because in the medical route you
don't have that, right. You have the antibiotic or the prescription,
the anti fungal medication, and you kind of.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Go along with it without actually changing things. And we
find changing things around oftentimes really makes a big difference.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Very interesting. All right, We'll be right back more on histoplasmosis.
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So you're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor
Robert Preither of Holistic Integration, where our mission is restoring
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hope to our patients. So we're talking about histoplasmosis. What
you need to know very informative. I'm learning a lot
and you know that's why it's so important that you
keep your immune system strong with all the COVID strings
going through this. Histoplasmosis will affect people with lowered immune systems.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Well, like I said, probably if you're in Indianapolis and
you have long COVID you probably have also a secondary histoplasmosis. Yeah,
so that needs to be addressed too.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, what's your thought on having birds as pets inside
the house. Not a good idea if it's going to
keep you saying like it.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Interestingly enough, they determined that my dad actually picked up
the histoplasmosis because he was in charge of the chicken coop.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Oh, a lot of people are getting chicken coops right now.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That's something to be aware of. And actually keeping your
birds healthy is very important. If you see a disease
with them, you know, you need to address it. And
then also keeping that you know how they actually like.
Move the coop around. Yeah, that type of thing is
really important because if it's stationary there for years and
years and years, you're going to get histoplasmos.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Interesting, so moving it around, yeah, watching your children, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And making sure that the birds are healthy and getting
them checked on a regular basis. They have to have
a good diet, make sure that they have one in
a fight of an a you know, to keep their
health up and actually keep from getting a histo. Are
you talking about the birds or the well the children,
you know, so that it doesn't accumulate there and then
you get right, you get the problems. It was interesting.
(44:33):
I had one guy who he said, every spring, every spring,
I come down with this terrible flumm and I'm like, really,
tell me all about it. And we figured out that
he actually had a big garden and he would use
a rototiller yeah, and then kick up the dirt and
he would follow after it, and afterwards he would always
get sick. And his wife said, yeah, and so it
(44:55):
was just constant. He was developing histoplasmosis every spring up
that yeah. Yeah, And so what I did is I
total him have somebody else, you know, come by and
actually plow it for him.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
If he was going to do that much, well, I mean,
you know, actually you're not right behind it, because he
was like digging and then he was falling right behind
it with no mask or anything. So if you're up
in the tractor and you kind of go through and
do it that way, it wasn't as bad. Yeah, but
even then you have to be careful kicking up the dirt.
Like the big outbreak in Indianapolis was from a big
(45:30):
construction problem.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
What did you say That was.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Nineteen seventy eight, there was, Yeah, the biggest outbreak. Matter
of fact, the CDC actually lets the hospitals know because
whenever there's a downtown project where they're digging up or
like they're making a new highway or especially here in Indianapolis,
they can actually predict the wind pattern in which areas
are going to be getting a lot of histoplasmosis, so
(45:55):
they need to be aware of that.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
So, yeah, digging up the ground is basically where you
get a lot of issues.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
So we talked about treatment that we do at Holistic
Integration for histoplasmosis. We talked about some of the supplements.
Let's talk about other treatments that we provide that help
well chiropractic.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
One of the big things is that we do autonomic
nervous system tests and Vaguel tests and whenever the especially
the circle spine, the house especially is not lined upright
and there's some interference there, then you're going to have
a vaguel nerve problem, which is an imbalanced paraspathic sympathetic
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And after we adjust that and we retest it, you know,
it clears up. But that has a direct effect on
the immune system. So chipractic is extremely helpful to keep
you healthy. I've had several people say, well, I used
to get sick all the time and then I made
you know, the chiropractic a part of my routine, and
(47:02):
you know, it's been a couple of years since I've
actually gotten sick. Had one young lady say that, and
I had several people you know, throughout I mean a lot.
Almost everybody who actually follows up with that says that
it really makes a big difference. And what you're doing
is keeping the body healthy. So that's one of the things.
Another thing is acupuncture. We have people that we actually
(47:25):
have spleen twenty one and right word is and when
that's acting up, then you have an infection. We can
treat that and people actually walk out feeling better. Yeah,
it will actually break a fever and people will turn
right around. I mean, my whole staffs that there comes
in if they're getting sick and they said, I was
(47:47):
getting sick, duck, I need my spleen twenty one.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
First I already got my neck checked and it's okay,
but I need my spleen twenty one done. Yeah, And we've.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Had some of the perks of working at Holistic Integration, right, well,
you know, get away with being sick.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
No no, yeah, yeah, right, it's your fault if you
get sick because we can prevent that. M So we
treat that and it's it's like boom. Other thing, of course,
is we've had some the aircases of histoplasmosis and pneumonia
and other things. And oftentimes, whenever you know, somebody has
some type of lung infections, things are weakened enough that
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they're also going to have histo.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Yeah, so is the spring and summer worse than the winter.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
It's basically whenever there is digging.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Whenever there's digging.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, it's more of a problem at that point. Good
frost actually.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Ever stop working on our four.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Sixty Yeah, that would actually, that would make everybody healthier.
You know, I don't there's only been one year since
they built it for sixty five that they haven't been
working on it. Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Is that's really interesting?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah? Yeah, well that's a whole other area in subject.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
But diathermy diathermy, yeah, talk about that.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah. So diothermy is a big magnet and what it
does is it rearranges the electrical current in the body,
so it opens up the arteries and the lymphatic tissue.
Anything that has helped with greater blood flow, greater lymphatic flow,
the diathermy helps.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah. It's like a gentle detox.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, yeah, it will and it really it also kills bacteria,
viruses and funguses, which is interesting. The magnets is good
for us, but the magnetic pull on that is not
good for foreign invaders.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Son invaders.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Yeah, it will actually cut those down, increase the blood flow.
And basically the main problem with our system is when
things become stagnant, when the blood starts slowing down, when
them system congeals. That's actually when things You want to
think about it like a flowing river, you know, and
you got some stream and it's rushing and it's all
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clear water, and you just want to drink some of
it mm hmm, you know, because it's so fresh and clean.
And then when it's kind of pools and sits there
and all these bugs start for and then it gets
kind of stinky. Yeah. So the diathermy is like getting
that river flowing, that stream flowing in your body and
it just cleans everything up. We can actually do a
(50:18):
dithermy session on people, and there are lung function tests
improves immediately, which is really important.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah. Yeah, and for someone with possible histoplasmosis, the lung
function test is very important, I would.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Think, very important and important type of thing, you know,
we do X rays on people and there's so many
times that we see little calcifications and looks. We know
it's all from that old histoplasmosis infection. So that's something
that is real common. So it's obvious that people have
had problems on a regular basis. So really, when we're
talking about how many patients have had that, probably all
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of them.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, interesting, so you see quite a few come in too.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
We see quite a few and people are kind of
worn down. Interesting thing is that we've had people who
were misdiagnosed for sarcodosis, which is an automn disease, and
they were actually diagnosed along those lines and basically it
was just a histoplasmosis infections misdiagnosed misdiagnosed as an autoimmune disease,
which it causes a lot of the same symptoms and
(51:19):
problems through the body. Yeah, and then it's treated completely
wrong because what they do is they put in an
immune suppressant, and we know that it's not correct because
if you actually do have sarcodosis and you do some
of the symptoms go away. But if you do it
and you have histo, symptoms get worse.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
So yeah, if your symptoms are getting worse. You're not
going in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
You're not getting in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
And I find two people they just want to diagnosis.
They just want to diagnose it. They want a name,
and it's a lot of autoimmune people. But there's more
to it, you know what I'm saying. There's a root reason. Sure, yeah,
you might have a name to it, but don't you
want to get to the root.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
And get it fixed?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
And get it fixed.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
One thing, of course, when you're talking about the route,
one of the things on the immune system is the gut. Yeah,
because eighty percent of immune systems around the gut, and
when you have that, you know, if your gut's not right,
then your immune system is not going to be right
and you're going to more likely get hytoplasmosis. So one
of the things is really working on that getting your
normal bacteria up. If you have yeast in your gut
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candied overgrowth, you're going to be much more susceptible to histoplasmosis.
Your body's actually set up along those lines.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Well, let's talk. We got a couple minutes left, and
want to make sure you cover what you want to cover.
Are there any other stories of patients with histoplasmosis that
holistic intovation helped. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
I mean, you know, I've had people who are going
into kidney failure and unfortunately part of it was the
medications that they were doing kind of precipitated it. But
the histoplasmosis actually will go to the kidneys and cause
destruction there. So getting that turned around has been a
big thing because it kept people from getting into dialysis right,
(53:05):
And that's one thing that a lot of doctors as
they're working with people don't realize that that could be
actually one of the reasons that things are going wrong.
And I've had people who came in specifically for hypertension
and it was actually the underlying problem was a histoplasmosis infection. Interesting,
as soon as we got their immune system, got their
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histo under control, the hypertension went away because it was
putting stress on the cardiovascular and on the kidneys and
causing the hypertension.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
So, I mean there's so many different types of things
along those lines that.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
What would you say to someone that might be struggling
haven't gotten answers and you know it could possibly be histoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Well, it's like doctor House, there's always, he said, there's
always a reason.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
There's always a reason.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
You know, and having something where they say it's idiopathic
means that the doctors are idiot and we don't know
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
All right, We will end on that note. Thank you,
doctor Praither, Thank you very informative.
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Hi, I'm Lisa Praither and welcome to the Voice of
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to healthcare. Well, today we're going to talk about histoplasmosis.
What you need to know. And it's interesting, of all
(00:34):
the episodes, we have not done a full show on hytoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah. Yeah, it just shows you that there's an awful
lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
There is a lot to talk about because.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We've been doing this years and then still finding things
that we haven't even mentioned. They are actually pretty common.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We ran into somebody and they were saying they were
just diagnosed with histoplasmosis, and we thought we need to
do a show on hystoplusmoss. Yeah. So, Dajabraither, can you
explain what hytoplasmosis is and how it affects the body.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Sure, it's a fungal disease spread by birds. Matter of fact,
my grandparents used to keep birds in the house. It
would calm down my grandmother. And one of the things
that there was a problem is is oftentimes they would
get an eye infection and it was hisstoplasmosis that they
(01:27):
would have, and so the histoplasmosis is basically found in
birds and bird droppings, so it's not really a disease
that you catch from another person, and you don't actually
necessarily catch it from the bird itself. But what happens
is that the droppings get into the soil and then
(01:48):
they dry and then they become airborne and then you
breathe them in, or they also land on your eyes
and you take it into your body and becomes an infection.
So one of the big things along those lines is
anywhere there has been a lot of birds and droppings
(02:09):
accumulate over the time, then the ground actually holds it.
And oftentimes what happens is when you dig into the ground,
it kind of releases the spores and then you breathe
it in and then you actually get it.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Is going to be looking around for bird dropping.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Or if you know so a lot of construction workers,
you know, people who actually are you know, ditches, things
like that. Gardening is a big type of way that
you can get it. But that's how people basically get it.
Another thing is bats also carry it, and so bat
dropping so in caves, going into and having guano is
(02:48):
what they call it and what it does right, and
then it drives can get into that. Yeah, I know
he might have hstoplasmosis. No one knows, but it's actually
something and that's around you know a lot of different
areas and so those are good big areas to get at.
Chicken coops is actually a big way to actually pick
(03:09):
it up.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Also interesting. So how did you first become involved in
studying and treating histoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, the first time that I actually came across it
was my dad had a lot of lung issues and
different health issues and we did some testing on him
and I found out it was histoplasmosis. Matter of fact,
when he was evaluated by pollmonologists, he had asked how
long has he been smoking because he thought he was
(03:36):
a smoker, And I said, no, he's got histoplasmosis. And
he says, oh, okay, yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But a lot of the symptoms he was having is
like he had smoked.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Right, Yeah, because of the you know, the lung disease
actually developed into COPD m HM.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So why do you think histoplasmosis is often underdiagnosed or misunderstood.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, one of the things is the lab testing often
well it's not something that people think of right away,
right it's not one that actually a lot of doctors
aren't even aware of hystoplasmosis, which is interesting. It's basically
something that is also gives a lot of false negatives,
so a lot of the testing that you do for
(04:23):
hystoplasmosis will actually give a false negative and so it
can appear to be something else. And so you know,
people doctors, you know, either think of well, you know,
they've got a virus or they've got some type bacterial infection,
and a lot of areas it's actually misdiagnosis tuberculosis. So
(04:45):
that's a very common type of thing that it's actually
misdiagnosed for. If it gets into the eyes, it's oftentimes
misdiagnosed as macular degeneration. Interesting, so you know, there's a
lot of things that can go on with that. But
it's interesting because the histoplasmosis first usually hits the lungs,
(05:07):
and one of the things that the body does is
when it attacks it, it actually usually calcifies it. That's
one of the things that you can actually see on
the lung X rays if you're doing a chest X ray.
A matter of fact, I get a lot of reports
back when we're doing chest X rays, probably old histoplasmosis
infection showing up, you know, some of the calcifications in
(05:31):
the lungs. So it calcifies, It usually calcifies.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And what does that cause?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Oh, the calcifications, just lung calcifications is usually what they
call it, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, So let's talk about some of the symptoms that.
What are the most common symptoms of histoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, it seems almost like the flu when you get it,
So you get fever, chills, you get headaches, muscle eggs, fatigue, cough,
just discomfort. It can also be on the skin, so
oftentimes people can it's an undiagnosed type of.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Skin problem like a rash.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
People actually get all sorts of different types of you know,
diagnosises along those lines, and it winds up to be
some histol on the skin because they were digging around
in the ground and then they actually pick up the infection.
So and some of the other things is that it
can then actually spread to other parts of the body.
It actually is the number one cause for blindness in Indiana.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
In Indiana. In Indiana, the number one cause of blindness.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Number one cause of blindness, and usually what they do is,
oftentimes they misdiagnose it as macular degeneration because as the
body's actually fighting the infection in the eyes, it again
kind of calcifies. There's some scar tissue in through there
and people see almost like floaters in the eyes. Is
(07:00):
oftentimes how that occurs. It can also then go to
the kidneys, so it causes an awful lot of problems
for kiddy disease. It can also hit the adrenals, cause
a lot of fatigue. It can actually go to the
heart and cause milocarditis.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
It can also then even cause meningitis if it goes
you know, too long. I've had patience with that histoplasmosis meningitis.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Now does it you said, initially it feels like flu,
the flu, So does it get upper respiratory?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Upper respiratory. So what you do is you have the
acute primary histoplasmosis, which is almost always the lungs. It
can also hit the skin or actually can settle in
the eyes.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's when it said it's a cute phase.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
A cute phase. And then once it becomes you know,
actually endemic and the lungs, it becomes chronic cavitating histoplasmosis.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And then it then can be disseminated throughout the body
and actually caused quite a few different health problems throughout interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So the second sea why it's misdiagnosed well, are misunderstood well.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Even on the blood work. One of the things is
that you know somebody has with fungal infections, you don't
see like a real rise in the white blood cell
like you do with a bacterial infection. You know, you
don't see the same pattern. So what happens is that
it's kind of misleading and people don't really get it.
(08:28):
Most doctors don't, and it's not the first thing that
they do. And one of the problems that actually happens is,
you know, you'll get this infection and then somebody will
start you on an antabotic regimen, and you can't go
on an antibiotic regimen because it actually will take down
the bacteria. It'll actually make the histoplasmosis take.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Off because it's fungal.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Because it's fungal. Oh or you get a steroid which
helps to take down the inflammation, helps with the lung infection.
We can see immune system and then the fungus actually
takes off. I had a patient who came into me
and she moved in to Indianapolis and got a real
bad infection, and they said, well, you know, you must
(09:10):
have had some type of flu, but now you must
have a you know, you're showing up on your chest
sex ray that you've you know, you've got some probably pneumonia.
It was actually histoplasmosis. Put her on strong antabotics, didn't work,
so they increased the antabotics and increased it some more,
and then it went.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Systemic, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And then the kidneys function started to go down all
sorts of problems and then even went into meningitis. And
then and then she came into me because it's like
they're killing me. I don't know what's going on. And
I said, well, these antabotics should have worked in this
type of situation. I bet you it's histo. And sure
enough it wound up to be started on a program
(09:50):
and then got it under control. But it's something that
is well, I mean, just to give you an idea,
you know how house you remember that, yes, yeah, we're
kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
One of the things that was like the puzzlerer was
somebody had hystoplasmosis. And then there was also a BBC
program on parasites eating up my body and this one
person they couldn't figure it out, figured out finally they
figured out it was histo plasmosis and then but the
patient eventually died from it. So it can be very dangerous.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, let's talk about this patient and what you did
for her. Yeah, you want to do that when we
come back. All right, we'll do that when we come back.
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Pro droppings on my windows seal, probably God Histo glasshmos.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You're listening to the Voice of Health, which actor Robert
Praither of Holistic Integrations the most comprehensive wellness center in
the Midwest are from well We're back. We're talking about histoplasmoses.
What you need to know? And doctor Praither, you recommended
that song to be played by Johnny.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Cash, one of my favorite artists.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
What's that song called beans for breakfast? Jeans for breakfast.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
It's about a guy who wasn't a very good husband
and his wife left him. So he was having beans
for breakfast with a plastic fork.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
And how to get histoplasmoses. He let birds in the
house or.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Something, Yeah, it was he left the window open. He said,
crows pooped up. Oh, and then he breathed it and
he probably says I have hystoplasmosis. So well, that actually
brings up an important part. One of the things on
the susceptibility on the histoplasmosis is actually because you have
a weakened immune system. So people with HIV are very
(16:07):
very sensitive along those lines. That's something that they need
to watch out for a lot of people that are
on biologics where they actually for autoimmune for weekend immune system,
or on some type of transplant. Histoplasmosis is a real problem.
So one of the things that actually kicks off histoplasmosis,
(16:27):
it's not eating right. Not getting enough vitamin A is
a very big thing because that's very important for lung health.
So anytime you go low on vitamin A, your susceptibility
to histoplasmosis increases. So one of the things is histoplasmosis
is very common in the homeless. Alcoholics is also very
(16:50):
big and guys who don't take care of themselves. So
he was a guy whose wife had left him and
basically the house was totally trashed because he wouldn't clean
up anything. Probably part of the reason she left.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
And then so he's having beans for breakfast, so his
immune system is down. Yeah, and so he gets histoplasmosis
and they probably get hytoplasma.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Thank you Johnny Cash. Yeah, I think we used one
of his songs when we did a show on hemorrhoids.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Oh yeah, Ring of Fire, Ring a fire Boy. Johnny
Cash is really helpful for us.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So one thing I want to mention to the CDC
says that histoplasmosis is often misdiagnosed or diagnosed late.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Sure, and that's what happened with Thisco.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, it was about that.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We were talking about that. Yeah, yeah, and so she
was completely misdiagnosed and was put on things that actually
made the problem worse.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well, you said, right, antibiotics, that was pneumonia.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah. Finally they did a lung culture and found out
that it was histoplasma, which took a while, and so
they switched her to some fungal medicines, but it still
really wasn't working. So getting her in and then starting
there on some natural products really kind of helped to
get that thing going. So because one of the things
(18:16):
is the medicine, the fungal medicine actually was taking down
her kidneys, which was already a problem, so they had
to stop it. So what do you do in those
types of situations? While you go natural, right, which actually
helps to rebuild the immune system. There's actually quite a
few things that actually are helpful on a natural basis
that have really good effects on histoplasmosis.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And we're going to talk about that, but before we do,
let's talk about how it's diagnosed. How's histoplasmosa is typically diagnosed.
And I'm sure you've already talked about some challenges with that.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It is.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
There are actually several different ways of doing it. They
have improved that quite a bit, but it's still has
it still gives false negatives. So you can do blood tests,
you can do some urine tests. You can also do samples,
you know, spewed them. You can actually go in and
get a lung sample to actually check that out. So
sometimes you have to really dig on that to get
(19:10):
the proper diagnosis. But oftentimes, being a practitioner and seeing
it quite a bit, I can tell kind of when
that is actually showing up. You know, it's interesting because
a lot of people who come in who says I
have limes, actually is chronic histoplasmosis? Interesting because you get
all the and they're misdiagnosed, you know, and the lime tests, well,
(19:35):
the lime test didn't really show up, you know, really
for sure. But you know, I'm sure I've got lines.
But you know, when you sit there and you tell
somebody you got limes, they go, oh no, Or you
sit there and say, histoplasmosis. Okay, yeah, what is that?
It's not as exciting having limes. Yeah, it is a
(19:57):
little bit more. Yeah, fun to say, but it can
actually show up along those lines. A lot of people
with the long covid also around in this area also
developed pistel plasmosis, so oftentimes histoplasmosis is not the only
infection going on.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Now, you know Indiana. So histoplasmosis you said, was the
number one reason for blindness in Indiana? Sure is Indiana?
Is it because we're on a swamp?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean basically yeah, yeah, let me let me tell
you the history on that. Okay, So histoplasmosis follows the
migrations of birds, So there's migration patterns, and of course
the birds come settle in different types of places, poop
a lot, and then move on. And I don't know
if you've ever seen Canadian geese after they're done, it's,
(20:46):
you know, everything's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And yeah, we have a blue heron. We live on
six acres of water pond and the blue heron likes
to go right over our house. Right, we have a
gazebo and there's blue hair and poop is large.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah. I don't ever test blue hair and for ysto plasmosis,
so maybe.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
But they are beautiful.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
But these migratory birds all have histoplasmosis. And one of
the things is that Indianapolis was a swamp at one
time and on the migratory pathway, so if you had
come back here before the swamp was drained and then
of course it made it really fertile ground to grow.
(21:30):
That's why Indianapolis was wealthy and actually developed was because
of the fertile ground here. But they drained the swamp
and then started to plant. It kicked up all this
old birddo that had been around forever. So there was
it's just like caked with histoplasmosis. And we probably thought
the highest concentration of histo in the ground of any
(21:54):
place in the.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
World, any place in the world.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And wow, so the biggest like the biggest outbreak of
hystoplasmosis was back in nineteen seventy eight in Indianapolis. And
so when worldwide when they talk about histoplasmosis and a
big outbreak, Indianapolis is actually mentioned is probably the place
with the biggest outbreak ever of histoplasmosis.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So we need to be thinking of that. Well, these symptoms.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Quite Frankly, if you've lived here in Indianapolis for five years,
you have had histoplasmosis. Interesting, there's basically you know, as
I was talking to specialists along this line, they said, well, Indianapolis,
you can test it, and everybody's going to test positive.
(22:41):
You know, it's just whether it's an active infection or
not giving problems. So you have to kind of differentiate that.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Right, And if your immune system is compromised.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
If you have an immune likely if you have chronic
epsteine bar virus, you know, or if you do have
lines where it cuts here or some type of tickborne illness,
histoplasmosis which is already there, is probably going to kick up.
So it's going to be a part of the picture,
and oftentimes is not the only infection going on, but
(23:09):
it should be considered.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So now we're not only the glider capital of the world,
we're also at histoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes. And also we are also the biggest place for allergies,
you know, like the pollen and stuff is Evansville, Indiana,
and from that center, as you go out from there,
it gets less, huh. So we also are the biggest
allergy center of North America.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
We love our Indiana.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
But we love our Indiana.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
We love our Indiana for so many other reasons. Right.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
But you know, so everybody who's from Indianapolis, if there
have been here anytime at all, have had histoplasmosis.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, so when we come back, let's talk about the
treatment for histoplasmosis, both medically we've talked a little bit,
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I'm Lisa Prether, and you're listening to the Voice of
Health with doctor Robert Prether of Holistic Integration. Where we
get to the root cause of your health issue. Well,
we're talking about histoplasmosis. What you need to know and
very interesting topic doctor Prather, especially you know what you
(29:31):
talked about here in Indiana. You know histoplasmosis here in
Indiana leading cause of blindness HM. A lot of times
it's misdiagnosed or diagnosed late. So let's talk about what
are some of the treatments used at Holistic Integration for hisstoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, one of the products, now I actually had a
little about hastoplasmosis not too long ago, and I use
a Standard Process product called Infiplex and newmotrophin PMG Amfiplex
is absolutely amazing for histoplasmosis and something that we use
an awful lot in our practice. As I was talking
(30:08):
to someone some of the tough people in Standard Process,
they said, probably the most overlooked product that they have
is inmfiplex, and it's absolutely wonderful for getting the lungs
back to where they need to be. Has the proper
types of vitamin A, so getting that backup to par
that's one of the things that combination on it actually
(30:31):
we see very quick results. Also along those lines are regano.
So if you're talking about the strongest anti fungal medicine
out there is not amphotericin which B which is the
one that they use for really serious cases of histoplasmosis,
(30:53):
but really oregano is actually the strongest antifungal known to man.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
And we saw that.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
In oil we have, we got oil, but that is
something that's really really good. Tea tree oil is something
that also is very good anti fungal. Garlic. We use
something called wild bear garlic and that's a very strong
type of a herbal Also for the histoplasmosis.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Is that a pill form.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And then along those lines, venus flytrap and aritidyl are
two real strong immune boosters. Those are something that I
always checked to see severe cases as long as they're
not taking some other medicines and we rule out. Methylene
blue is also something that has been in some cases
extremely useful. So that's something that we also used to
(31:47):
actually get the histoplasmosis under control.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And how did you know you had histoplasmosis?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It was just checking on it. You know. I had
some other had a little one of those covids that
went through and so I had that. So I hit
that and I said, oh, I've got something else. So
I checked on it and the infiplex and the newotrophy
and got things under control pretty quickly. Took a couple
bottles of it, but it worked.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
But I mean diet has a lot to do with it. Stress,
all those types of things. Yeah, so you need to
look at all those things. But one of the things
that we have is homeopathy.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I love my homeopathy.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yep. Homeopathy is so we can actually make a homeopathic
product for histoplasmosis, and that has really saved quite a
few on the real serious cases. That has really made
a big difference, And so getting that into someone's system
really helps to turn them around too. So those are
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a lot of the products that we hit vitamin's minimals.
We check those all out, make sure they're up on
their bees. Vitamin D is very well known to be
a critical part. If you are low on your vitamin
D and vitamin A, you're going to have problems. And
of course your absorption there fatty acid, fat soluble vitamins,
(33:09):
and if your gallbladder's not working well and you're not
getting the bile into your digestive, you're probably not absorbing
it well. So actually supplementing non vitamin A and vitamin
D are two things that can be extremely important.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, and your vitamin as are your yellow and orange
fruit and vegetables, sure, cod liver oil.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Sure. One of the things that almost every society that
was civilized would always look to do is to make
sure that you had a grain only yield in your
diet and then also making sure that you got yellow
vegetables squash. Like the Indians, what they would do is
they would take corn and beans, and then they would
(33:52):
then also grow squash along yellow squash to get their
vitamin A and that's how they would keep healthy.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So yeah, we're growing a lot of that in our garden.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah. So you talked about like the natural anti fungals
that are real effective. You talked about a rag and
of oil, garlic, really important Dutch prather. Do you believe
natural remedies could ever replace anti fungal medications, you know,
in mild cases or are they always complementary? What's your
thought on that.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's a real good point. You need to find out
what's going to get things under control as quickly. So
we never you know, ruled out the pharmaceuticals. But one
of the problems that's happening is that the pharmaceuticals it's
just like we're in a post antibiotic world. We're also
founding that the anti fungals are also not working as
well as they did before. Now we do not find
(34:45):
the same problem with natural products, right, So, you know,
because the natural products have been around for literally probably
a million years that you know, it's well established that
it's going to that way. So one of the things
that they find veterinary medicine is really interesting. I actually
(35:06):
get a lot of information from reading veterinary journals, whereas
in the human medical world it's very much controlled by
pharmaceuticals as far as what they write, and in veterinary
all they care about is results. So one of the
things is that there's an awful lot of articles on
how to deal with different types of infections in a
(35:29):
post pharmaceutical age, because we've kind of overused things and
so there's a resistance that wasn't there before. So a
lot of the medicines that we use just don't work anymore.
Matter of fact, there are certain types of funguses that
actually there's a Candida arius and some other things that
when you give an antifungal for it, it actually takes
(35:50):
off even worse.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, I don't know. When I just hear the antifungal medications,
they just seem harsh to me.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Well, yeah, I mean, like you know, you can get
you know, the kidneys shut down taking them. Liver problems
can also occur, So the longer you take them, you know,
the more likely that you are to have issues. All
pharmaceuticals cause problems in and of themselves, whereas you can
take most of the natural remedies much much longer without
(36:18):
really negative side effects. A matter of fact, the whole
system improves.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And it's helping your body. It's working with your body
sure to heal it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Actually, yeah, it actually works with the body and it's
much more integrates with our system because it's natural and
natural things actually kind of cooperate and you don't have
the drop off in the immune system and the damage
to the organs like you do with the pharmaceuticals. Matter
of fact, the immune system actually boosts and gets better.
One of the main problems that actually occurs is usually
(36:50):
the reason that the histo took off on you. It's
because of a weakened immune system, right, or some nutritional
deficiencies that's leading to that, or stress that actually that.
So you know, working along those lines has a lot
of benefits. And in the veterinary medicine, there's a lot
of articles on which types of things will work the best.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I mean, it's just so interesting how well we're taking
care of our animals and not ourselves.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Well yeah, yeah, you know there are some of the
dog food is better than the human food. Well, it's like,
you know, there's a several I mean, we talked about
some of them, but there's an awful lot of other
things that can be very helpful. Barbering with the golden
seal uba ERSI. In other words, there's a tremendous number
(37:37):
of possibilities of things that might work, and we can
switch around and see what's going to work the best
in what situation. And so it's not like we're I
actually have many many, many more choices naturally than I
would pharmaceutically, right, so we can kind of play around
switch them all of a sudden, you know, where you
(38:00):
using one product that's working well, and then all of
a sudden it's not because it builds up a resistance.
Then we switch it, and then we can actually measure
how that's going. We do something called well it's galthotic
skin resistance, so we can actually see how the body's
responding to things as they're taking it and know when
to kind of switch.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Which that's really interesting because in the medical route you
don't have that, right. You have the antibiotic or the prescription,
the anti fungal medication, and you kind of.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Go along with it without actually changing things. And we
find changing things around oftentimes really makes a big difference.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Very interesting. All right, We'll be right back more on histoplasmosis.
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So you're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor
Robert Preither of Holistic Integration, where our mission is restoring
(42:56):
hope to our patients. So we're talking about histoplasmosis. What
you need to know very informative. I'm learning a lot
and you know that's why it's so important that you
keep your immune system strong with all the COVID strings
going through this. Histoplasmosis will affect people with lowered immune systems.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Well, like I said, probably if you're in Indianapolis and
you have long COVID you probably have also a secondary histoplasmosis. Yeah,
so that needs to be addressed too.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, what's your thought on having birds as pets inside
the house. Not a good idea if it's going to
keep you saying like it.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Interestingly enough, they determined that my dad actually picked up
the histoplasmosis because he was in charge of the chicken coop.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Oh, a lot of people are getting chicken coops right now.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That's something to be aware of. And actually keeping your
birds healthy is very important. If you see a disease
with them, you know, you need to address it. And
then also keeping that you know how they actually like.
Move the coop around. Yeah, that type of thing is
really important because if it's stationary there for years and
years and years, you're going to get histoplasmos.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Interesting, so moving it around, yeah, watching your children, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And making sure that the birds are healthy and getting
them checked on a regular basis. They have to have
a good diet, make sure that they have one in
a fight of an a you know, to keep their
health up and actually keep from getting a histo. Are
you talking about the birds or the well the children,
you know, so that it doesn't accumulate there and then
you get right, you get the problems. It was interesting.
(44:33):
I had one guy who he said, every spring, every spring,
I come down with this terrible flumm and I'm like, really,
tell me all about it. And we figured out that
he actually had a big garden and he would use
a rototiller yeah, and then kick up the dirt and
he would follow after it, and afterwards he would always
get sick. And his wife said, yeah, and so it
(44:55):
was just constant. He was developing histoplasmosis every spring up
that yeah. Yeah, And so what I did is I
total him have somebody else, you know, come by and
actually plow it for him.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
If he was going to do that much, well, I mean,
you know, actually you're not right behind it, because he
was like digging and then he was falling right behind
it with no mask or anything. So if you're up
in the tractor and you kind of go through and
do it that way, it wasn't as bad. Yeah, but
even then you have to be careful kicking up the dirt.
Like the big outbreak in Indianapolis was from a big
(45:30):
construction problem.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
What did you say That was.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Nineteen seventy eight, there was, Yeah, the biggest outbreak. Matter
of fact, the CDC actually lets the hospitals know because
whenever there's a downtown project where they're digging up or
like they're making a new highway or especially here in Indianapolis,
they can actually predict the wind pattern in which areas
are going to be getting a lot of histoplasmosis, so
(45:55):
they need to be aware of that.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
So, yeah, digging up the ground is basically where you
get a lot of issues.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
So we talked about treatment that we do at Holistic
Integration for histoplasmosis. We talked about some of the supplements.
Let's talk about other treatments that we provide that help
well chiropractic.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
One of the big things is that we do autonomic
nervous system tests and Vaguel tests and whenever the especially
the circle spine, the house especially is not lined upright
and there's some interference there, then you're going to have
a vaguel nerve problem, which is an imbalanced paraspathic sympathetic
(46:39):
And after we adjust that and we retest it, you know,
it clears up. But that has a direct effect on
the immune system. So chipractic is extremely helpful to keep
you healthy. I've had several people say, well, I used
to get sick all the time and then I made
you know, the chiropractic a part of my routine, and
(47:02):
you know, it's been a couple of years since I've
actually gotten sick. Had one young lady say that, and
I had several people you know, throughout I mean a lot.
Almost everybody who actually follows up with that says that
it really makes a big difference. And what you're doing
is keeping the body healthy. So that's one of the things.
Another thing is acupuncture. We have people that we actually
(47:25):
have spleen twenty one and right word is and when
that's acting up, then you have an infection. We can
treat that and people actually walk out feeling better. Yeah,
it will actually break a fever and people will turn
right around. I mean, my whole staffs that there comes
in if they're getting sick and they said, I was
(47:47):
getting sick, duck, I need my spleen twenty one.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
First I already got my neck checked and it's okay,
but I need my spleen twenty one done. Yeah, And we've.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Had some of the perks of working at Holistic Integration, right, well,
you know, get away with being sick.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
No no, yeah, yeah, right, it's your fault if you
get sick because we can prevent that. M So we
treat that and it's it's like boom. Other thing, of course,
is we've had some the aircases of histoplasmosis and pneumonia
and other things. And oftentimes, whenever you know, somebody has
some type of lung infections, things are weakened enough that
(48:22):
they're also going to have histo.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Yeah, so is the spring and summer worse than the winter.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
It's basically whenever there is digging.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Whenever there's digging.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, it's more of a problem at that point. Good
frost actually.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Ever stop working on our four.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Sixty Yeah, that would actually, that would make everybody healthier.
You know, I don't there's only been one year since
they built it for sixty five that they haven't been
working on it. Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Is that's really interesting?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah? Yeah, well that's a whole other area in subject.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
But diathermy diathermy, yeah, talk about that.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah. So diothermy is a big magnet and what it
does is it rearranges the electrical current in the body,
so it opens up the arteries and the lymphatic tissue.
Anything that has helped with greater blood flow, greater lymphatic flow,
the diathermy helps.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah. It's like a gentle detox.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, yeah, it will and it really it also kills bacteria,
viruses and funguses, which is interesting. The magnets is good
for us, but the magnetic pull on that is not
good for foreign invaders.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Son invaders.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Yeah, it will actually cut those down, increase the blood flow.
And basically the main problem with our system is when
things become stagnant, when the blood starts slowing down, when
them system congeals. That's actually when things You want to
think about it like a flowing river, you know, and
you got some stream and it's rushing and it's all
(49:57):
clear water, and you just want to drink some of
it mm hmm, you know, because it's so fresh and clean.
And then when it's kind of pools and sits there
and all these bugs start for and then it gets
kind of stinky. Yeah. So the diathermy is like getting
that river flowing, that stream flowing in your body and
it just cleans everything up. We can actually do a
(50:18):
dithermy session on people, and there are lung function tests
improves immediately, which is really important.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah. Yeah, and for someone with possible histoplasmosis, the lung
function test is very important, I would.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Think, very important and important type of thing, you know,
we do X rays on people and there's so many
times that we see little calcifications and looks. We know
it's all from that old histoplasmosis infection. So that's something
that is real common. So it's obvious that people have
had problems on a regular basis. So really, when we're
talking about how many patients have had that, probably all
(50:53):
of them.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, interesting, so you see quite a few come in too.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
We see quite a few and people are kind of
worn down. Interesting thing is that we've had people who
were misdiagnosed for sarcodosis, which is an automn disease, and
they were actually diagnosed along those lines and basically it
was just a histoplasmosis infections misdiagnosed misdiagnosed as an autoimmune disease,
which it causes a lot of the same symptoms and
(51:19):
problems through the body. Yeah, and then it's treated completely
wrong because what they do is they put in an
immune suppressant, and we know that it's not correct because
if you actually do have sarcodosis and you do some
of the symptoms go away. But if you do it
and you have histo, symptoms get worse.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
So yeah, if your symptoms are getting worse. You're not
going in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
You're not getting in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
And I find two people they just want to diagnosis.
They just want to diagnose it. They want a name,
and it's a lot of autoimmune people. But there's more
to it, you know what I'm saying. There's a root reason. Sure, yeah,
you might have a name to it, but don't you
want to get to the root.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
And get it fixed?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
And get it fixed.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
One thing, of course, when you're talking about the route,
one of the things on the immune system is the gut. Yeah,
because eighty percent of immune systems around the gut, and
when you have that, you know, if your gut's not right,
then your immune system is not going to be right
and you're going to more likely get hytoplasmosis. So one
of the things is really working on that getting your
normal bacteria up. If you have yeast in your gut
(52:24):
candied overgrowth, you're going to be much more susceptible to histoplasmosis.
Your body's actually set up along those lines.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Well, let's talk. We got a couple minutes left, and
want to make sure you cover what you want to cover.
Are there any other stories of patients with histoplasmosis that
holistic intovation helped. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
I mean, you know, I've had people who are going
into kidney failure and unfortunately part of it was the
medications that they were doing kind of precipitated it. But
the histoplasmosis actually will go to the kidneys and cause
destruction there. So getting that turned around has been a
big thing because it kept people from getting into dialysis right,
(53:05):
And that's one thing that a lot of doctors as
they're working with people don't realize that that could be
actually one of the reasons that things are going wrong.
And I've had people who came in specifically for hypertension
and it was actually the underlying problem was a histoplasmosis infection. Interesting,
as soon as we got their immune system, got their
(53:28):
histo under control, the hypertension went away because it was
putting stress on the cardiovascular and on the kidneys and
causing the hypertension.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
So, I mean there's so many different types of things
along those lines that.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
What would you say to someone that might be struggling
haven't gotten answers and you know it could possibly be histoplasmosis.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Well, it's like doctor House, there's always, he said, there's
always a reason.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
There's always a reason.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
You know, and having something where they say it's idiopathic
means that the doctors are idiot and we don't know
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
All right, We will end on that note. Thank you,
doctor Praither, Thank you very informative.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
Holistic Integration is located at eighty nine oh two North
Meridian Street on the north side of Indianapolis, just south
of the I four sixty five loop. If we can
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