August 23, 2025 • 54 mins
This week, we kick of a two-week series on the 4 areas of pain: Analgesia, Activities of Daily Living, Adverse Effects, and Aberrant Behavior. In this episode, you'll learn about:
—The government-commissioned study that actually concluded the Structure-Function approach to pain was the best way forward…until Big Pharma scuttled it.
—How the Structure-Function approach to health care focuses on healing the body and correcting the root cause of the pain, while the Disease Care approach focuses on controlling the symptoms of pain.
—The proper short-term or end-of-life role for prescription pain relief like opioids and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs).
—Why proper alignment through Chiropractic Care should be the first place to go when looking for pain relief. And how Corrective Exercises and Chiropractic work so much better when combined.
—How 80% of the first-responders for the 9-11 disaster suffered from PTSD, but only 20% of those first-responders had PTSD if they were treated with Auriculotherapy (Ear Acupuncture).
—Why Dr. Prather says his office is "pretty much 100% successful" when treating migraine headaches.
—The amazing effectiveness of Acupuncture in immediately relieving pain, including severe abdominal pain associated with polycystic ovaries and menstrual cramps.
—The 5 pathways of pain that guide Dr. Prather's approach to pain relief.
—The natural products used at Holistic Integration that are more effective than prescription drugs in reducing pain and without the dangerous side-effects. And how Glucosamine and Chondroitin are more effective than NSAIDs for Osteoarthritis.
—How Parkinson's and Dementia patients can see incredible improvements of symptoms through proper alignment of their Atlas and eliminating the forward head posture.
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—The government-commissioned study that actually concluded the Structure-Function approach to pain was the best way forward…until Big Pharma scuttled it.
—How the Structure-Function approach to health care focuses on healing the body and correcting the root cause of the pain, while the Disease Care approach focuses on controlling the symptoms of pain.
—The proper short-term or end-of-life role for prescription pain relief like opioids and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs).
—Why proper alignment through Chiropractic Care should be the first place to go when looking for pain relief. And how Corrective Exercises and Chiropractic work so much better when combined.
—How 80% of the first-responders for the 9-11 disaster suffered from PTSD, but only 20% of those first-responders had PTSD if they were treated with Auriculotherapy (Ear Acupuncture).
—Why Dr. Prather says his office is "pretty much 100% successful" when treating migraine headaches.
—The amazing effectiveness of Acupuncture in immediately relieving pain, including severe abdominal pain associated with polycystic ovaries and menstrual cramps.
—The 5 pathways of pain that guide Dr. Prather's approach to pain relief.
—The natural products used at Holistic Integration that are more effective than prescription drugs in reducing pain and without the dangerous side-effects. And how Glucosamine and Chondroitin are more effective than NSAIDs for Osteoarthritis.
—How Parkinson's and Dementia patients can see incredible improvements of symptoms through proper alignment of their Atlas and eliminating the forward head posture.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, I'm Lisa Prather and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. Well, today we're going to talk about the
four a's of chronic pain. Last couple of weeks we've
had the five p's, Now we have the four a's.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Future healthcare, healthcare should go in the future. And now
the big thing, and this isn't something that we came
up with. This is Center of Disease Control FDA National
Institute of Health said, you know what are the We
have four a's of pain. So what we're doing is
we're adopting that and talking about that and how that
(00:59):
apply to structure function care.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, and before we dive into the four a's, dejabrather,
can you explain the structure function model and how it
applies to chronic pain.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, interestingly enough, there was research done during the Obama
administration when the opid crisis got highest. They commissioned a
study on pain on how we could deal with pain
without the opiods. Well, you know, how are we going
to deal with pain? Because the model that had been
(01:32):
created was a complete disaster, and so they had the
top experts and basically they came up with structure Function Care.
They sat there and said, the answer to our pain
crisis is acupuncture, physical therapy, physiotherapy, cognitive training, those types
(01:52):
of things, and that would really solve the pain crisis.
And it came out and I'm like, this is amazing.
You know. They said that this is something that needs
to be covered by insurance. We need to have a
set standard of this type of care, and we need
to move away from the drug model. It then went
(02:13):
to the drug companies for them to look it over.
They completely scratched it and said, oh, this isn't going
to work and actually threw it out. And then even
the search in general at the time said, this is
you know, this is horrible. You know, we aren't interested
(02:33):
in actually solving this pain crisis. We're just trying to
figure out how to sell more drugs.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
He said that, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
This isn't really you know what we're trying. You know,
this isn't the model that we should have. And Structure
Function Care what it tries to do is get to
the root of the problem and actually solve the problem.
The disease care model is to help with SENTENMS. Now,
don't get me wrong, I believe in an eighty two split,
eighty percent of all healthcare should be structure function twenty
(03:04):
percent should be disease care. If I am post surgery,
probably I'm going to want an opiate or some type
of medication, and for the first two weeks it's really no.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Problem, right, you know, considered temporary.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, it's opiods and nonstortal anti inflammatory drugs are the
two things that you know they talk about, and both
of those are very good and short term type of
cases or during end of life types of situations. The
old milk of the poppy, which is the opiates, is
something that is the dying man's friend, which is absolutely true. However,
(03:45):
as we're going to get into you know, we're looking
at analgesia, what types of things do we do for
pain relief and then adverse effects which we're going to
talk about quite a bit on what's happening with that.
But with structure function care, basically what you're doing is
figuring out one with pain. Structure has a huge amount
(04:05):
to do with it, So evaluating the structure, changing the structure,
changing the activities of daily living, you know, so that
they don't create the pain, and then dealing with the
healing that's involved with acupuncture, physiotherapy, all those types of things.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, so you went a little ahead of mean, yes.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I have a tendency to do that. Call me back in.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
This is something you're I know, you're passionate about. So
can you give our listeners a you know, overview of
what the four a's of chronic pain are sure, and
then we're going to go into detail in each of them.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So analgesia basically is, well, how do you get the
pain under control? What are the methods that you're going
to be using to get you know, what can people
take to cut the edge activities of daily living? What
are the things that you you're doing that's creating the pain?
What is it that you can do to actually alleviate it?
(05:05):
Having a good understanding along those lines, that's where you
get into exercises, which is very, very critical to get
things under control. A matter of fact, quite a bit
of it is flexion. Like I had one gentleman sit
there and he's like, you know, I'm still in pain.
I don't understand, And I was adjusting him and I'm like, well,
(05:27):
you know, it's pretty obvious you're in a flection state.
You need to be an extension state. Why hasn't that
been addressed? And come to find out that he had
done none of his exercises that we asked him to,
that they had given him the entire scenario of what
to do, and matter of fact, we took him out
there and kind of put him through the exercise you know,
(05:50):
that he's supposed to do on a daily basis, which
took eight minutes, and I said, well, how do you
feel now? He said, well, I'm out pain.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And so that's why we do them there at the office, make.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Sure they do it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So it was like, okay, so basically you're complaining because
you haven't been doing what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Because it does work.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And we call them corrective exercises, but we'll go into
detail that, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And then adverse effects basically, what are the adverse effects
probably you know, of the analgesia you know, or not
doing the proper activities of daily living, and then averran behavior,
What are the results of analgesia that's gone wrong? So, okay,
those are four important types of things and.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
We're going to get into detail. Want to ask you
this before we do. Why are the four a's important?
And chronic pain management.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You have to look at each one of them to
have an evaluation. You know, what is it that you're
going to do to relieve the pain? What are the
activities of daily living to make the corrections? What are
the adverse effects? You have to always evaluate is the
treatment worse than the disease?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know? And then averrent behavior, how does then behavior
start to affect this whole process?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And I even had it specific aban drug taking behavior, right, yeah,
and we're going to talk about that all right. Well,
let's start with the first A, which is what doctor
braither analgesia. So in the structure function model that we
do at Holistic Integration, you know, how do we approach
pain relief beyond medications?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yes, so with analgesia, you need to get people out
of pain. That's obviously one of the biggest things. And
of course chiropractic is really a basis. Yeah, you know,
really the first area that you need to do is
to get alignment accomplished, because if you don't, then the
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structural is constantly going to create pain and if you
try to do anything else beyond that, it's all going
to be to not.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, just think of a car. When the car's misaligned.
What happens, It's not going to run right right. Structure
tires to get off balance.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, structure effects function. Function effects structure. So the structure
and a tremendous amount of pain relief occurs with the adjustment,
you know, after the adjustment.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, And what's nice is we have X rays. We
can see exactly what's going on. Because when we were
talking about exercise, and we'll talk about that later, we
call them corrective exercise correct because it's not the same
for everyone. We base it on the X rays when
we get them back on the evaluation. But going back
to you know, pain relief, what role does structure function
(08:50):
therapies play in reducing pain through structural correction. You know
you talked about chiropractic.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Chiropractic is really one of the big things therapy.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Let's talk a little bit about auricular.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Aurricular basically is ear points. It's like an ear acupuncture,
but they're like little beads is what we use. Yeah,
and then we take them on and you can get
some amazing pain relief, dental, all sorts of different types
of things. So that's a major area of helping out
with pain relief.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And those points in the error right are connected with
areas of the brain.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Areas of the brain. A matter of fact, the very
interesting thing is it's amazing for PTSD, which can create
a lot of pain. They found that nine to eleven
really brought the auricular to the forefront because in nine
to eleven they asked for healthcare responders to take care
of the first responders. So acupuncturers went in there and
(09:52):
they treated people's ears as emergency types of things, and
they found that the ones that didn't get treated with
our regular therapy eighty percent suffered with PTSD. Those that
did get treated with a regular therapy eighty percent didn't
have PTSD. And it was very very clear, as a
(10:15):
matter of fact, if there's a crisis right now, I'm
on a list to be called up in Indiana to
treat first responders to keep them from going into PTSD,
which oftentimes even involves pain response. Yeah, so a regular
is something that's well proven to be extremely helpful.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Wow, this first segment went so quickly.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
We're already done with it.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So when we come back, we're going to talk more
on pain relief. We'll be right back. Does your group
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Speaker 2 (11:22):
One of the interesting things that they've been doing research,
and this has just come out within the last two years,
is that the fascia is one single organ. It's as
much of an organ as your liver, heart, or kidneys.
So all the fascia in your body is completely connected
with each other and intercommunicates with each other. It's the
main thing that determines your posture. Matter of fact, it
has a very big effect on the nervous system. So
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as you can get the fashia back into alignment, it
can actually change how the nervous system works. And much
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Speaker 4 (12:29):
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When should homeopathy be used instead of pharmaceuticals?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Research on pharmaceuticals have really never been done on children
and health. Children respond because children are completely different creatures.
They have a different immune system, they have different physiologies,
and children are much more sensitive to pharmaceuticals than adults are.
A lot of problems that occur as we give pharmaceuticals
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antibiotics had six times more recurrent ear infections than those
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the number of reoccurrences by a.
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The antibotics hadn't done anything at that point. The little
guy was just thrashing in so much pain, and fifteen
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(16:06):
We're talking today about the four a's of chronic pain,
and we're talking about pain relief, right, and what's the
anal Jesus. The reason we're doing this is because I'm
having a trouble saying the word. It's going to be
(16:26):
vulnerable there. But it's the four a's.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Four a's.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
We're not analgesia, activities of daily living, adverse effects and
abnormal behavior.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay, aberent behavior. You're changing it up already, yes, Okay,
So we were talking about what role the structure function
therapies play in reducing pain, you know, through structural correction
struct You talked about the services that we have at
Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Sure, auricular acupuncture is absolutely made one of the things
that polycystic ovaries with the pain that's associated with that.
I've had three treatments in the last two days where
gals had really extremely horrible pain as far as on
their abdomen came in. Before they left the pain was gone.
(17:19):
So there's just a certain pattern that you do and
it's under control. Menstreal cramps, I can clear those out
in five minutes.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
With the acupuncture.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
With the acupuncture, and you know, there's all sorts of
physiotherapies that diothermy the aontopheresis, there's the rapid release trigger
point injections, working with the triber. There's a ton of
things that we have that are available on getting rid
of pain. So we're really really good at the analgesium
(17:49):
and getting pain under control quickly because that's really one
of the important things. It's very difficult to heal. Pain
wears you out, yeah right, it really wears you out
and age you quickly. Yeah, you know, because there's it
starts to pain, will eventually wear out your B vitamins,
your minerals, You'll start getting sick, all sorts of things
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will start to happen. So very important to get that
under control.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So how does improving the structure affect the nervous system's
response to pain signals?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, you know, as we evaluate people, you know, and
I check them before the adjustment, and then afterwards people go, oh,
you're not pushing as hard. You know, you're not checking it.
You know, it can't happen that quickly where pain goes away,
but it does. It does, so you know you can
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make the adjustment and you know the sotic nerve is
no longer in pain, right, you know you can do
that and you know you don't have the neck pain,
the headaches go away.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Migraines.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Have a patient right now that had been suffering for
almost a year with migraines, was referred into us and
we got those under control for him. A matter of fact,
we're pretty much one hundred percent successful on people who
follow our treatment on migraines.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, they just got to follow the treatment.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
They just got to follow the treatment.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It was interesting what you said on the opioids. You
know that they're a dying man's friend friend. Absolutely, Yeah,
and so what did I say about that?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, then why are we giving it to the living?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah? I did? Didn't I I did? That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah. Do you want to tackle that or we can
go on?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Well, that has to do with the adverse effects. We
can jump ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh, let's not jump ahead. Let's save that for adverse effects.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay, quick question?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Is complete pain relief a realistic goal? You know? In
chronic pain?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, it's an understanding of pain, and there's a lot
of different types of pain models. Yeah, Now, what I
believe is that there is Basically our belief is that
pain is a blockage of energy flowing through the body,
and you have hive pathways. You've got the nervous system,
the lymphatic system, the circulatory system, the cranial, sacral, and
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electromagnetic in each of those five pathways, if they're blocked,
cause pain. So we're always looking to see what are
the pathways that are actually blocked, and then how do
we get those relieved? And then when we relieve them,
the pain's gone. So that's our model along those lines.
But then you also have a pain threshold type of thing.
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So oftentimes what will happen is when you have a
high degree of pain, your pain and you can describe
what I'm doing here, then we've got the pain threshold
that goes up. You try to keep the pain under
control so the body can handle it. Now, what happens
with that is because you're keeping the pain threshold up high,
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it causes a lot of energy, so you're tired a lot.
So pain will cause a lot of fatigue because you're
keeping your pain threshold. So when the pain goes down,
people say, oh, wow, I feel better. But then the
pain threshold drops back and they say, oh, the pain's
kind of come back. And the pain hasn't come back,
it's just that your pain threshold has actually dropped.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And then but what you feel I said, but what
you're feeling is more energy and they said, yeah, you know,
I'm not as tired. I said, well that's because you're
now you're paying thresholds down. So and then as we
go along, oh, I feel better, and then they're paying
threshold drops and it's like, oh, the pain started to
come back, and I said, well, how's your energy though,
(21:39):
my energy is a lot better. And then all of
a sudden we get to the point where, oh, you know,
I can really tell the pain's going out because that's
your natural pain threshold. And then it actually then goes
below the pain level, goes below the pain threshold, and
then you don't feel it anywhere. You're out of pain.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So that's the scenario that we teach people, and that's
what I was taught, how to understand pain and what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Mm hmm. Interesting. So it is so rewarding being in
holistic integration and I'm I'm not there as often.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
As you used to be.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, it used to be what they call me semi retired.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yes, but I love when I go in, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And just listen to patients stories, you know. And I
saw them when they came in for the first appointment,
and then I see them again and they look like
I don't even recognize them. Yeah, because pain can just
wear on you, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And there is it's a huge problem here in the
United States. You know, there's no doubt about that. That
pain they talked about way back when you know that
there was the four vital signs. Then they added the
fifth one which is pain. So they asked people to
rate their pain levels and people shouldn't have to be
living with pain, which I agree with. But it's how
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we then approach it, right, you know? And what is
it that looking at all four of those, how can
we get things to a good level without the adverse
effects or the abrid behavior.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, well, we talked about the therapies that we have
and holistic integration. Let's talk about what we offer as
far as homeopathy or herbal that also help with pain.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Really sure, and there's actually quite a few things that
help with pain. One of the big things that for
nontri anti inflammatory drugs is osteothritis, which is a big
area of pain. And lucosamine sulfate and chondroit and sulfate
are two things that are very well known to help
out and actually heal up osteothritis. Basically they are ingredients
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in cartilage. So people started, well, you heard of jello
noox gelatine. Yes, basically that's ground up chicken cartilage and
it was sold as arthritis medicine.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh, interesting, very effective.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Harvard did some studies on it and said this stuff
actually works better than the drugs we were.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Giving knox gelatine.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
NOx gelatine, and basically they said, well, what is it
that's made up of cartilage, and that's glucosamine and condroyitan
are basically the two things. So they put those in
supplements and basically it's cartilage. So getting cartilage and that's
something that people used to get in their diet and
we're more fancy now and we don't eat cartilage like
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we used to, so actually looking at that and then
but the NOx gelatin has been known to be around forever,
but you can actually get supplements with the carlage, with
the glucosamine, condroyitan, all those types of things. Shark cartilage,
and shark cartilage is one of them that's actually along
with that. Bovine cartilage, of course, is real good. C
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cucumbers actually are also a good source along those lines.
So those are some things and we offer those things.
Hyaluronic acid that makes up quite a bit of the joints.
Using that for joint healing is something that's very good.
A lot of B vitamins and iosinemide, pentethantic acid, pyridoxin
are very well known to be very helpful along those lines.
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Vitamin C, vitamin d A E. K. All the fat
soluble vitamins are very important for osterearthritis. So one of
the biggest reasons that people take nonsol anti inflammatory drugs,
which is the actually the largest pain medits is osteoarthritis. Okay,
So these are all things that actually help but also
help with pain in any type of way. So zinc, copper,
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boron magnesium is absolutely critical for really all the different
types of magnesium can help out. Proteolytic enzymes are very
good for inflammation.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Mmm mm hmmkay.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That's with the chymo trips and pat pain routin trip
to fan trips and all those types of things. And
then also you get into herbels.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Now I'm gonna have to hold you there because we
go to a break when we come back, because I
don't want you to rush through these These are important.
These are the things that we use at holistic Integration
so that we don't have to use the opioids, right right.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Opids and nonsholanti inflammatory drugs.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
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showing some upper motor neuron signs. Definitely the neurological system
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soon as we got the aluminum down to a normal level,
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And he didn't go on the drugs.
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Did not go on the drugs.
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We're talking about the four a's of chronic pain and
we're still on any number one, No number one, Okay,
it's probably another part one, part two.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
So you were.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Talking about nutraceuticals that we use at Holistic Integration for
pain relief. Let's talk about the erbyls.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, interestingly enough, opiates. Of course, we're based off of
Erbyls Mosch of the poppy. Yeah, but when we actually
talk about structure function care as opposed to disease care,
a lot of the pharmaceuticals of disease care are also
herbals too. But whenever, the way that you define the
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difference between them is that if you in other words,
there are things that heal and then things that suppress
the symptoms. So the opiate suppress the symptoms, they don't
really heal up the system. So when we're talking about
the erbels that actually work along those lines, some really
good ones are horsetail Gromo lane. Both of those are
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nice anti inflane.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
We have a horsetail tea.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Absolutely wonderful, has all sorts of properties to it. V
Larian root, tumeric. You'll like this one. Jamaica dogwood bark, Now,
how can you go wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
With that one?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Cordalis white willow bark, which led to aspirin. You know,
that's where they got that from. That's something that we
use as part of our things. Boswellia rosemary actually is
very good for pain and anti inflation, ginger root, devil's claw, yuka.
Those are just some of those. And it's interesting because
we have people who are on different pain medicines, and
(33:10):
then we have different combinations in some of our formulas
on this and we give them to people and say,
you know, use this for two weeks and see if
this isn't actually working better than the pharmaceuticals you're using.
And also always they say, yeah, you know, I'm actually
getting more pain relief off of this than I am
(33:31):
the drugs. And you don't know, and you don't have
the aberrant conditions that actually occur or the other issues, right,
so you know.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
We're not going to get addicted to horsetail tea, right.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And also then homeopathy. Homeopathy is absolutely wonderful. And one
of the things that we do is there's something called
trigger points. Now we approach that from several different ways,
but one of the things that we do is injection
into the trigger points and we use homeopathic remedies for that. Yeah,
and so there's people always say, well, you know you're
(34:07):
going to do an injection, what's in it? And I said,
you could inject the same thing in a six month
old and not have a problem because it's all homeopathic,
like really, and you know, no, because they're used to
steroid injunctions, and you know, when you're dealing with steroid injunctions,
which is one of the treatments along those lines, you're
going to get the most benefit from the first one.
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The second one probably isn't going to work as well,
and really once you get into the third one, you're
talking about more negative effects than positives. So with the homeopathy,
you can do it as long and as often as
you want to with a tremendous amount of pain relief
with no side effects. And then we do then do
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rapid release, some spray and stretch and some exercises with
that afterwards to make that really work well. And we
have some really severe pain patients that are like, you know,
this stuff is amazing. Yeah, even my steroids weren't working
this well. And I was told I can't do any
more steroids, right because they the steroids will actually then
(35:12):
cause the degeneration in the joint itself and actually start
to cause more problems than it actually helps with.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, And we usually put people on just a series
of so many it just depends, right, Yeah, And it
doesn't usually take too many.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
No, And as you do the injection, it's not a
big gauge needle, so most people are like, oh, I
didn't even feel that.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, they're kind of surprised.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Uh huh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So, you know, we have a lot of different types
of ways of working with pain and severe pain and
actually doing it with no negative effects.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Well, good, should we go on to the second one.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Let's go on to the second one.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
All right. So the second a of chronic pain is
activities of daily living. So Dutch by the how does
chronic pain interfere with the person's ability to carry, you know,
out everyday tasks.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Well, I mean that's one of the things that we
try to do outcome assessment. It's like, what can't you
do now that you would like to be able to do?
You know, I play with my grandchildren, play pickle ball.
I can't play pickleball anymore. Yeah, I can't get out
on the tennis court, you know, with my elbow, I
can't golf. I'm having trouble getting up and off the toilet.
(36:28):
M Yeah, it's a problem. That's a problem. So what
are the activities of daily living that are an issue
for you? And what do we need to do to
make the corrections? And so oftentimes, well, of course we
want to get someone out of pain, but then different
activities that they're doing actually were what are the things
(36:50):
that created the pain in the first place? How do
we make those corrections? One of the things is, you know,
if you have an abnormally a line knee, you're going
to have knee pain. So what we need to do
is to line the knee back up, strengthen it so
it can actually hold that alignment alignment, and then get
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the gate, you know, get your gate back. You know,
there's probably some abnormalities along those lines that created the
knee problem in the first place. See how that works, right,
So what we do is we take it where it is.
Then then how do we reverse that so that as
you're going through your life, you're not creating the problem
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over again. So one of the things that I've always
felt is that it's a disservice as a chiropractor to
make the alignment changes without doing the corrective exercises along
with it. Now, you as because you were in charge
of the rehab area, you found that it was so
much easier and so much better if I made the
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correction first and then you did the corrective exercises. How
much better that work?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Right? You weren't fighting the structure, right, the structure because
it was aligned.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It was already aligned. So it's amazing how that all
works together. And then you add the acupuncture, the physiotherapies
for the healing, the supplementation along with it, the homeopathic,
the herbels, the nutraceuticals, and it makes it a very
very amazing type of a program.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
One of the things that we do is we do
pre and post pictures yeah on people. Right, So we
look at someone and we show them how much they're misaligned,
and then we make the adjustments, We do the corrective exercises,
and then show the changes that are the taken place.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, let's talk about little about that. So how can
dysfunction and structure like you got poor posture, which we evaluate.
We do a posture analysis. Sure, we do that at
their initial appointment before they're aligned, and we do it
at their reavowal which is between six and ten visits
(39:07):
after and then discharge and to see the changes. It's
just amazing. But how does the pasture, the gate issues,
joint restrictions interfere with daily activities.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
You were made to be in a certain position. That's
one of the things that we're really very strong in it.
Even like our alys orthogonal. Putting things in their proper
position is the thing that we're looking for. We're not
just looking to mobilize the spine, We're actually looking to
align it and align the entire body, including the muscles.
One of the things is that the structure affects function.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
So if you.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Had like a head forward carriage, that can lead to dementia.
It's very much involved in problems with upper motor Parkinson's.
A matter of fact, if we can get the head
back into proper position, a lot of the signs of
uppermotor neuron issues, Parkinson's and all the other different types
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of diseases along those lines, symptoms go way down.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
HM. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Even with mental issues, posture position has a huge effect
mentally as far as what's going on. So structure is
going to affect how the brain's working as probably one
of the biggest things. It also affects the lungs, the
digestive system, the entire body starts to work better. Yeah,
that's one of the things that I sit there and
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say to the functional doctors. One of the reasons that
you're not getting the same results as us because you're
doing a lot of the same things because you're not
working on the structure.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Sure, yeah, Okay, when we come back, let's share some
examples of how restoring structure improves someone's function in daily life.
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Speaker 2 (41:54):
Told parents, well, we need to get your kids in
here just to get them checked out. And they said, oh, kids,
they're always healthy. And that's a very big misnomer because
when you're talking about the growth, the diet, all the
different types of things that go into childhood. When we
do blood work on children, very few of them actually
are in a normal range because the stressors that go on.
(42:16):
But in the United States, we also do have a
problem with infant in childhood mortality. Of all the developed nations,
we have the worst infant and childhood mortality rates.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
You're talking about right now, right now? Really yes?
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Wow, So you know when you're talking about who has
the best childhood mortality rates, it's the Japanese actually, who
do a very good job on that. They have the
lowest infant mortality rate of any of the countries. Those
are some of the things that we need to study
and find out.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
I'm really kind of shocked by that.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, I know, you know, you would think because we
do have the best disease care model in the world,
where we spend the most, have the most research, have
the most available ability of the pharmaceutical surgeries, vaccinations. The
number of vaccinations that we do for children is twice
as high as the next country. The country that gives
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the least amount of vaccinations and has no requirement on it.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Is Japan, and they have the best and fitness.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Child mortality rates and health of their children.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
The structure function care is where you bring the body
back into homeostasis where it's supposed to work. There is
a balance and a perfect spot for perfect health. Health
is defined as homeostasis and homeostasis is defined as balance,
and we talk about structure function because both of those
have to be involved. The function is the physiology of
the body, and then the structure is the alignment and
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the positioning of the body, and both of those go
into making a healthy, balanced individual. So structure function care
is really healthcare. Disease care is dealing with the symptoms
symptomatology based. All diseases are defined through the symptoms that
they create. Children are completely different for zoologically than adults, right.
Their immune system is completely different. None of the pharmaceuticals
(44:06):
or any of those types of things have ever been
tested on children, but they're giving them to them. Research
has been completely on adults. It is a ten times
greater risk for children than it is for an adult
as you'd put them on pharmaceuticals. So we are really
giving our children things that have not been tested out
properly to see how they respond on them, and we
(44:28):
don't really know what's occurring. All we can do is
look at the results of this and see that it's
a disaster. Children do not respond well to pharmaceutical.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
So you're saying, lea more of a natural approach.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
We can approach this in a very healthy type of
a way that doesn't put the child at risk and
still get results. Children respond even better to structure function care,
much quicker than adults do. Children really should be treated
structure functionally. When we talk about for the general adult population,
we're talking about and eighty twenty percent split pharmaceutically, we
(45:02):
should be doing about twenty percent of the healthcare eighty
percent should be structure function based where we're improving the
health and wellness of the individuals. The split in children
should be about a ninety eight percent structure function care
and about a two percent pharmaceutical base care. So really
switching how we're treating our children from a disease care
(45:22):
model into a structure function model should be a very
main emphasis with a much stronger type of push on
that than even for adults.
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at the Voice of Health radio dot com. So beautiful.
So you're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor
(46:16):
Robert Prather of Holistic Integration, where our mission is restoring
hope to our patients. Well, since we're only at the
second A of chronic pain, we've decided this is going
to be part one of part two. So just wanted
our listeners to know that. So we've been talking about
the second A of chronic pain, activities of daily living,
(46:39):
and you know one thing working with patients. Two of
the activities that are really the toughest and you wouldn't
think of them, well, one you would golf, you know,
especially on that low back and vacuuming. Yeah. So you
know the most exciting thing is to get a golfer
back on the golf course, you know, working with them,
(47:01):
love to work with them, especially during the winter, get
him ready you know for spring, and then the vacuuming,
just teaching them different techniques. You know, I say, instead
of that vacuuming, you know, going out as your vacuuming,
it's more like that lever is an extension of your
belly button, so your body moves with it will protect
(47:24):
the back. You know. Little things like that really go
a long way. But Dodger Braither, I'm sure you got
a lot of examples of people that by improving and
restoring their structure, it's improved.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Their two a daily look.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
One of the ones that was pretty cool was a
older gentleman. He was ninety and he'd kind of lost
his zest for life, and his family brought him in
and said, you know, what can you do for great grandpa?
And what was exciting was that he used to love
to dance, and we got him so that he was
(48:04):
dancing again. M He actually had two full years, you
know before he passed away, but he was. They were
so excited because he had taken up dancing again and
he was actually very very good at it. And just
to see that, you know, that sparkle in his eyes again, yeah,
because it kind of kept him going. Another example was
(48:26):
a gentleman. This is really quite interesting. He came in
to me and it was during the fallen and he says,
there and he says, my shoulder, you know, was all
torn up, a rotator cuff, and he said, do you
think you can fix this without surgery? I looked at
him and said, well, you know, it's that would take
a lot of work. You know, you would have to
(48:47):
promise me. And I told him about how long it
would take, you know, Yeah, I said, it's going to
take about three to four months, you know, but you
really have to do this, this and this. He said, okay,
you know you're sure you can fix it.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
He said yep.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
So we went through and he was just really working
hard and I was really impressed. We got him back
and he says, there and he went out on a
golf course and he came out back very happy, and
he said, just to let you know, I actually golf
with six different surgeons, and I had made a bet
with them that I could, because they said there's no
(49:23):
way you're ever going to be able to golf again
unless you get surgery. And he says, well, you know,
can I take that bet on you guys, And so
he had made a bet with all six of them.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Oh, yeah, you did really well.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
And yes, yeah, and it was, to be honest with you,
it was ten thousand dollars each. Oh, and he went
out and bought it.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Bought a new car with it. So not that I'm
encouraging gambling, but he did win.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
They were like, yeah, you win. So that was just
a fun little one, you know.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
And I think, I mean another big story, mister Lynn.
You know, he went and drove his motorcycle in the Himalayans.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
You know, but there was no way he could do
that before.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yeah. I remember coming in and say, hey, I haven't
you know seen you for a little while. Well, yeah,
that's because I took my motorcycle on the Emalayan Mountains.
And then I saw him last week and he went
to a wedding and he was dancing on the floor,
I mean, you know, literally up it down. And you know,
(50:39):
this is someone that came to us and a lot
of pain, and he worked the Holistic Heart program. And
then there's patients that you know, I can get down
and play with my grandkids on the floor and back up,
I can pick up my grandchild when I couldn't before.
You know.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, all those things are very important. And I think
about a Parkinson's patient, which actually we do real well,
and working with them and then just changing that posture,
getting that back into a position, getting the feeling back
into the feet. It was like a totally new person.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
You know, his wife was just like in tears, do
you know, because she said, I got my husband back.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Yeah. Every time I go in that office, even if
I'm there for like thirty minutes to drop off their stories,
you know, and it's just just so encouraging. Yeah, so encouraging.
Is there anything more you want to cover in that
before we go to adverse effects?
Speaker 2 (51:36):
No, we can get Yeah, sorry with the adverse effects.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
So let's go to the thirday. What are the most
common side effects of chronic pain treatments? You know, particularly
opioids or long term medication use.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
So when you're talking about pain relief, you're talking really
about three things. On a drug level opiods and non
short anti inflammatory drugs and steroids. And an interesting thing
about opiods is that when I was going through school,
everybody knew not to give opiods, you know, because people
(52:12):
would become addicted. And then they did the whole false
type of things where they promoted Purdue Pharmas specifically sit
there and put out that opiods, that it was a
misnomer and that we were being cruel to people because
we weren't giving them pain relief. And so the opiods
(52:34):
exploded along those lines. Even though most of the scientific
literature said that it was addictive, it was ignored and
promoted by pharmaceutical reps. Wow, And it just exploded, and
we became a huge problem, one that actually was considered
(52:55):
a national problem. We are right now in twenty twenty
three three, there was twenty three billion dollars worth of
opioids sold in the world. Sixty percent of the opiods
are sold in the United States. We only have four
percent of the population.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
The world's population.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
World's population, but we consume sixty percent of all the
opiods in the world. Wow, which is I consider a tragedy.
Now it is a decline from where it was a
high during the Obama administration. They did cut it down
by about twenty four percent as far as on prescription,
(53:36):
but it's if we were back to pre promotion type
of levels, we would only have about two billion dollars
worth of sales worldwide. So you know, about ten percent
really of the opiods is really justifiable in my.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Opinion, only ten percent of that, yeah, h.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
And so it's a real problem. And it's also growing
quite a bit. Yeah, so that is a very big problem.
I know so many people who've died. So talk about
adverse effects.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
All right, and we will take it from there on
adverse effects in part two next week. Well, thank you,
doctor Prayther.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Thank you, Lisa.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
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doctor Robert Praither,
Hi, I'm Lisa Prather and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. Well, today we're going to talk about the
four a's of chronic pain. Last couple of weeks we've
had the five p's, Now we have the four a's.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Future healthcare, healthcare should go in the future. And now
the big thing, and this isn't something that we came
up with. This is Center of Disease Control FDA National
Institute of Health said, you know what are the We
have four a's of pain. So what we're doing is
we're adopting that and talking about that and how that
(00:59):
apply to structure function care.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, and before we dive into the four a's, dejabrather,
can you explain the structure function model and how it
applies to chronic pain.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, interestingly enough, there was research done during the Obama
administration when the opid crisis got highest. They commissioned a
study on pain on how we could deal with pain
without the opiods. Well, you know, how are we going
to deal with pain? Because the model that had been
(01:32):
created was a complete disaster, and so they had the
top experts and basically they came up with structure Function Care.
They sat there and said, the answer to our pain
crisis is acupuncture, physical therapy, physiotherapy, cognitive training, those types
(01:52):
of things, and that would really solve the pain crisis.
And it came out and I'm like, this is amazing.
You know. They said that this is something that needs
to be covered by insurance. We need to have a
set standard of this type of care, and we need
to move away from the drug model. It then went
(02:13):
to the drug companies for them to look it over.
They completely scratched it and said, oh, this isn't going
to work and actually threw it out. And then even
the search in general at the time said, this is
you know, this is horrible. You know, we aren't interested
(02:33):
in actually solving this pain crisis. We're just trying to
figure out how to sell more drugs.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
He said that, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
This isn't really you know what we're trying. You know,
this isn't the model that we should have. And Structure
Function Care what it tries to do is get to
the root of the problem and actually solve the problem.
The disease care model is to help with SENTENMS. Now,
don't get me wrong, I believe in an eighty two split,
eighty percent of all healthcare should be structure function twenty
(03:04):
percent should be disease care. If I am post surgery,
probably I'm going to want an opiate or some type
of medication, and for the first two weeks it's really no.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Problem, right, you know, considered temporary.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, it's opiods and nonstortal anti inflammatory drugs are the
two things that you know they talk about, and both
of those are very good and short term type of
cases or during end of life types of situations. The
old milk of the poppy, which is the opiates, is
something that is the dying man's friend, which is absolutely true. However,
(03:45):
as we're going to get into you know, we're looking
at analgesia, what types of things do we do for
pain relief and then adverse effects which we're going to
talk about quite a bit on what's happening with that.
But with structure function care, basically what you're doing is
figuring out one with pain. Structure has a huge amount
(04:05):
to do with it, So evaluating the structure, changing the structure,
changing the activities of daily living, you know, so that
they don't create the pain, and then dealing with the
healing that's involved with acupuncture, physiotherapy, all those types of things.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, so you went a little ahead of mean, yes.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I have a tendency to do that. Call me back in.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
This is something you're I know, you're passionate about. So
can you give our listeners a you know, overview of
what the four a's of chronic pain are sure, and
then we're going to go into detail in each of them.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So analgesia basically is, well, how do you get the
pain under control? What are the methods that you're going
to be using to get you know, what can people
take to cut the edge activities of daily living? What
are the things that you you're doing that's creating the pain?
What is it that you can do to actually alleviate it?
(05:05):
Having a good understanding along those lines, that's where you
get into exercises, which is very, very critical to get
things under control. A matter of fact, quite a bit
of it is flexion. Like I had one gentleman sit
there and he's like, you know, I'm still in pain.
I don't understand, And I was adjusting him and I'm like, well,
(05:27):
you know, it's pretty obvious you're in a flection state.
You need to be an extension state. Why hasn't that
been addressed? And come to find out that he had
done none of his exercises that we asked him to,
that they had given him the entire scenario of what
to do, and matter of fact, we took him out
there and kind of put him through the exercise you know,
(05:50):
that he's supposed to do on a daily basis, which
took eight minutes, and I said, well, how do you
feel now? He said, well, I'm out pain.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And so that's why we do them there at the office, make.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Sure they do it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So it was like, okay, so basically you're complaining because
you haven't been doing what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Because it does work.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And we call them corrective exercises, but we'll go into
detail that, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And then adverse effects basically, what are the adverse effects
probably you know, of the analgesia you know, or not
doing the proper activities of daily living, and then averran behavior,
What are the results of analgesia that's gone wrong? So, okay,
those are four important types of things and.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
We're going to get into detail. Want to ask you
this before we do. Why are the four a's important?
And chronic pain management.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You have to look at each one of them to
have an evaluation. You know, what is it that you're
going to do to relieve the pain? What are the
activities of daily living to make the corrections? What are
the adverse effects? You have to always evaluate is the
treatment worse than the disease?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know? And then averrent behavior, how does then behavior
start to affect this whole process?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And I even had it specific aban drug taking behavior, right, yeah,
and we're going to talk about that all right. Well,
let's start with the first A, which is what doctor
braither analgesia. So in the structure function model that we
do at Holistic Integration, you know, how do we approach
pain relief beyond medications?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yes, so with analgesia, you need to get people out
of pain. That's obviously one of the biggest things. And
of course chiropractic is really a basis. Yeah, you know,
really the first area that you need to do is
to get alignment accomplished, because if you don't, then the
(07:56):
structural is constantly going to create pain and if you
try to do anything else beyond that, it's all going
to be to not.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, just think of a car. When the car's misaligned.
What happens, It's not going to run right right. Structure
tires to get off balance.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, structure effects function. Function effects structure. So the structure
and a tremendous amount of pain relief occurs with the adjustment,
you know, after the adjustment.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, And what's nice is we have X rays. We
can see exactly what's going on. Because when we were
talking about exercise, and we'll talk about that later, we
call them corrective exercise correct because it's not the same
for everyone. We base it on the X rays when
we get them back on the evaluation. But going back
to you know, pain relief, what role does structure function
(08:50):
therapies play in reducing pain through structural correction. You know
you talked about chiropractic.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Chiropractic is really one of the big things therapy.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Let's talk a little bit about auricular.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Aurricular basically is ear points. It's like an ear acupuncture,
but they're like little beads is what we use. Yeah,
and then we take them on and you can get
some amazing pain relief, dental, all sorts of different types
of things. So that's a major area of helping out
with pain relief.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And those points in the error right are connected with
areas of the brain.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Areas of the brain. A matter of fact, the very
interesting thing is it's amazing for PTSD, which can create
a lot of pain. They found that nine to eleven
really brought the auricular to the forefront because in nine
to eleven they asked for healthcare responders to take care
of the first responders. So acupuncturers went in there and
(09:52):
they treated people's ears as emergency types of things, and
they found that the ones that didn't get treated with
our regular therapy eighty percent suffered with PTSD. Those that
did get treated with a regular therapy eighty percent didn't
have PTSD. And it was very very clear, as a
(10:15):
matter of fact, if there's a crisis right now, I'm
on a list to be called up in Indiana to
treat first responders to keep them from going into PTSD,
which oftentimes even involves pain response. Yeah, so a regular
is something that's well proven to be extremely helpful.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Wow, this first segment went so quickly.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
We're already done with it.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So when we come back, we're going to talk more
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When should homeopathy be used instead of pharmaceuticals?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Research on pharmaceuticals have really never been done on children
and health. Children respond because children are completely different creatures.
They have a different immune system, they have different physiologies,
and children are much more sensitive to pharmaceuticals than adults are.
A lot of problems that occur as we give pharmaceuticals
to children, so homeopathics should be the first line of
any type of medication for any children. Recent studies on
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ear infections have proven a dramatic difference between homeopathic treatment
and the antibotics that have been prescribed. Children who had
antibiotics had six times more recurrent ear infections than those
who got no treatment at all. The homeopathics cut down
the number of reoccurrences by a.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Third doctor prather What is diathermy.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
A large coiled magnet that produces a shortwave being that
goes into the body. The most common thing that we
use it for is drainage. Of the years, I think
about one little guy. He had a terrible ear infection.
The antibotics hadn't done anything at that point. The little
guy was just thrashing in so much pain, and fifteen
minutes on the diothermy he was laughing and looking around
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and waving at everybody, and they just kind of looked
at me, like, what the heck just happened? How did
this occur? We find that fifteen minutes on the diethermy
will just take away the pain, just like that. Too
many antibiotic treatments can cause permanent damage to the immune system.
Much better way of treatment is the Diethermy Unit.
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We're talking today about the four a's of chronic pain,
and we're talking about pain relief, right, and what's the
anal Jesus. The reason we're doing this is because I'm
having a trouble saying the word. It's going to be
(16:26):
vulnerable there. But it's the four a's.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Four a's.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
We're not analgesia, activities of daily living, adverse effects and
abnormal behavior.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay, aberent behavior. You're changing it up already, yes, Okay,
So we were talking about what role the structure function
therapies play in reducing pain, you know, through structural correction
struct You talked about the services that we have at
Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Sure, auricular acupuncture is absolutely made one of the things
that polycystic ovaries with the pain that's associated with that.
I've had three treatments in the last two days where
gals had really extremely horrible pain as far as on
their abdomen came in. Before they left the pain was gone.
(17:19):
So there's just a certain pattern that you do and
it's under control. Menstreal cramps, I can clear those out
in five minutes.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
With the acupuncture.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
With the acupuncture, and you know, there's all sorts of
physiotherapies that diothermy the aontopheresis, there's the rapid release trigger
point injections, working with the triber. There's a ton of
things that we have that are available on getting rid
of pain. So we're really really good at the analgesium
(17:49):
and getting pain under control quickly because that's really one
of the important things. It's very difficult to heal. Pain
wears you out, yeah right, it really wears you out
and age you quickly. Yeah, you know, because there's it
starts to pain, will eventually wear out your B vitamins,
your minerals, You'll start getting sick, all sorts of things
(18:13):
will start to happen. So very important to get that
under control.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So how does improving the structure affect the nervous system's
response to pain signals?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, you know, as we evaluate people, you know, and
I check them before the adjustment, and then afterwards people go, oh,
you're not pushing as hard. You know, you're not checking it.
You know, it can't happen that quickly where pain goes away,
but it does. It does, so you know you can
(18:43):
make the adjustment and you know the sotic nerve is
no longer in pain, right, you know you can do
that and you know you don't have the neck pain,
the headaches go away.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Migraines.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Have a patient right now that had been suffering for
almost a year with migraines, was referred into us and
we got those under control for him. A matter of fact,
we're pretty much one hundred percent successful on people who
follow our treatment on migraines.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, they just got to follow the treatment.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
They just got to follow the treatment.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It was interesting what you said on the opioids. You
know that they're a dying man's friend friend. Absolutely, Yeah,
and so what did I say about that?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, then why are we giving it to the living?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah? I did? Didn't I I did? That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah. Do you want to tackle that or we can
go on?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Well, that has to do with the adverse effects. We
can jump ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh, let's not jump ahead. Let's save that for adverse effects.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay, quick question?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Is complete pain relief a realistic goal? You know? In
chronic pain?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, it's an understanding of pain, and there's a lot
of different types of pain models. Yeah, Now, what I
believe is that there is Basically our belief is that
pain is a blockage of energy flowing through the body,
and you have hive pathways. You've got the nervous system,
the lymphatic system, the circulatory system, the cranial, sacral, and
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electromagnetic in each of those five pathways, if they're blocked,
cause pain. So we're always looking to see what are
the pathways that are actually blocked, and then how do
we get those relieved? And then when we relieve them,
the pain's gone. So that's our model along those lines.
But then you also have a pain threshold type of thing.
(20:35):
So oftentimes what will happen is when you have a
high degree of pain, your pain and you can describe
what I'm doing here, then we've got the pain threshold
that goes up. You try to keep the pain under
control so the body can handle it. Now, what happens
with that is because you're keeping the pain threshold up high,
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it causes a lot of energy, so you're tired a lot.
So pain will cause a lot of fatigue because you're
keeping your pain threshold. So when the pain goes down,
people say, oh, wow, I feel better. But then the
pain threshold drops back and they say, oh, the pain's
kind of come back. And the pain hasn't come back,
it's just that your pain threshold has actually dropped.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And then but what you feel I said, but what
you're feeling is more energy and they said, yeah, you know,
I'm not as tired. I said, well that's because you're
now you're paying thresholds down. So and then as we
go along, oh, I feel better, and then they're paying
threshold drops and it's like, oh, the pain started to
come back, and I said, well, how's your energy though,
(21:39):
my energy is a lot better. And then all of
a sudden we get to the point where, oh, you know,
I can really tell the pain's going out because that's
your natural pain threshold. And then it actually then goes
below the pain level, goes below the pain threshold, and
then you don't feel it anywhere. You're out of pain.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So that's the scenario that we teach people, and that's
what I was taught, how to understand pain and what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Mm hmm. Interesting. So it is so rewarding being in
holistic integration and I'm I'm not there as often.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
As you used to be.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, it used to be what they call me semi retired.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yes, but I love when I go in, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And just listen to patients stories, you know. And I
saw them when they came in for the first appointment,
and then I see them again and they look like
I don't even recognize them. Yeah, because pain can just
wear on you, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And there is it's a huge problem here in the
United States. You know, there's no doubt about that. That
pain they talked about way back when you know that
there was the four vital signs. Then they added the
fifth one which is pain. So they asked people to
rate their pain levels and people shouldn't have to be
living with pain, which I agree with. But it's how
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we then approach it, right, you know? And what is
it that looking at all four of those, how can
we get things to a good level without the adverse
effects or the abrid behavior.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, well, we talked about the therapies that we have
and holistic integration. Let's talk about what we offer as
far as homeopathy or herbal that also help with pain.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Really sure, and there's actually quite a few things that
help with pain. One of the big things that for
nontri anti inflammatory drugs is osteothritis, which is a big
area of pain. And lucosamine sulfate and chondroit and sulfate
are two things that are very well known to help
out and actually heal up osteothritis. Basically they are ingredients
(23:55):
in cartilage. So people started, well, you heard of jello
noox gelatine. Yes, basically that's ground up chicken cartilage and
it was sold as arthritis medicine.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh, interesting, very effective.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Harvard did some studies on it and said this stuff
actually works better than the drugs we were.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Giving knox gelatine.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
NOx gelatine, and basically they said, well, what is it
that's made up of cartilage, and that's glucosamine and condroyitan
are basically the two things. So they put those in
supplements and basically it's cartilage. So getting cartilage and that's
something that people used to get in their diet and
we're more fancy now and we don't eat cartilage like
(24:43):
we used to, so actually looking at that and then
but the NOx gelatin has been known to be around forever,
but you can actually get supplements with the carlage, with
the glucosamine, condroyitan, all those types of things. Shark cartilage,
and shark cartilage is one of them that's actually along
with that. Bovine cartilage, of course, is real good. C
(25:04):
cucumbers actually are also a good source along those lines.
So those are some things and we offer those things.
Hyaluronic acid that makes up quite a bit of the joints.
Using that for joint healing is something that's very good.
A lot of B vitamins and iosinemide, pentethantic acid, pyridoxin
are very well known to be very helpful along those lines.
(25:27):
Vitamin C, vitamin d A E. K. All the fat
soluble vitamins are very important for osterearthritis. So one of
the biggest reasons that people take nonsol anti inflammatory drugs,
which is the actually the largest pain medits is osteoarthritis. Okay,
So these are all things that actually help but also
help with pain in any type of way. So zinc, copper,
(25:51):
boron magnesium is absolutely critical for really all the different
types of magnesium can help out. Proteolytic enzymes are very
good for inflammation.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Mmm mm hmmkay.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That's with the chymo trips and pat pain routin trip
to fan trips and all those types of things. And
then also you get into herbels.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Now I'm gonna have to hold you there because we
go to a break when we come back, because I
don't want you to rush through these These are important.
These are the things that we use at holistic Integration
so that we don't have to use the opioids, right right.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Opids and nonsholanti inflammatory drugs.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, very important. We'll be right back. Listen to the
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lefter is the best medicine. I used to have ADHD,
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Speaker 4 (27:01):
I'm too old to be that high per I'm now
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talking about?
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The increase that I saw in aluminum toxicity in people,
it especially hits children in is one of the main
culprits that we find in Asperger's autism add ADHD. As
we detox the aluminum, then we get some very strong
neurological changes. I had a young boy who the teacher
had strongly suggested that if he was going to come
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back to school that he get on some type of
a riddling drug because he's still concentrate. We did a
hair analysis and we found aluminum toxicity. He was also
showing some upper motor neuron signs. Definitely the neurological system
wasn't coordinating well. We did a detoxification on him. As
soon as we got the aluminum down to a normal level,
his neurological signs all disappeared and he went from a
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Speaker 1 (28:26):
And he didn't go on the drugs.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Did not go on the drugs.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Now, So how important is iodine in the development of children.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Iodine is critical for the health of the baby. Iodine
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as it's delivered and then also its development. It actually
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We've had kids as we were able to raise up
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We're talking about the four a's of chronic pain and
we're still on any number one, No number one, Okay,
it's probably another part one, part two.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
So you were.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Talking about nutraceuticals that we use at Holistic Integration for
pain relief. Let's talk about the erbyls.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, interestingly enough, opiates. Of course, we're based off of
Erbyls Mosch of the poppy. Yeah, but when we actually
talk about structure function care as opposed to disease care,
a lot of the pharmaceuticals of disease care are also
herbals too. But whenever, the way that you define the
(32:07):
difference between them is that if you in other words,
there are things that heal and then things that suppress
the symptoms. So the opiate suppress the symptoms, they don't
really heal up the system. So when we're talking about
the erbels that actually work along those lines, some really
good ones are horsetail Gromo lane. Both of those are
(32:31):
nice anti inflane.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
We have a horsetail tea.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Absolutely wonderful, has all sorts of properties to it. V
Larian root, tumeric. You'll like this one. Jamaica dogwood bark, Now,
how can you go wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
With that one?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Cordalis white willow bark, which led to aspirin. You know,
that's where they got that from. That's something that we
use as part of our things. Boswellia rosemary actually is
very good for pain and anti inflation, ginger root, devil's claw, yuka.
Those are just some of those. And it's interesting because
we have people who are on different pain medicines, and
(33:10):
then we have different combinations in some of our formulas
on this and we give them to people and say,
you know, use this for two weeks and see if
this isn't actually working better than the pharmaceuticals you're using.
And also always they say, yeah, you know, I'm actually
getting more pain relief off of this than I am
(33:31):
the drugs. And you don't know, and you don't have
the aberrant conditions that actually occur or the other issues, right,
so you know.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
We're not going to get addicted to horsetail tea, right.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And also then homeopathy. Homeopathy is absolutely wonderful. And one
of the things that we do is there's something called
trigger points. Now we approach that from several different ways,
but one of the things that we do is injection
into the trigger points and we use homeopathic remedies for that. Yeah,
and so there's people always say, well, you know you're
(34:07):
going to do an injection, what's in it? And I said,
you could inject the same thing in a six month
old and not have a problem because it's all homeopathic,
like really, and you know, no, because they're used to
steroid injunctions, and you know, when you're dealing with steroid injunctions,
which is one of the treatments along those lines, you're
going to get the most benefit from the first one.
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The second one probably isn't going to work as well,
and really once you get into the third one, you're
talking about more negative effects than positives. So with the homeopathy,
you can do it as long and as often as
you want to with a tremendous amount of pain relief
with no side effects. And then we do then do
(34:50):
rapid release, some spray and stretch and some exercises with
that afterwards to make that really work well. And we
have some really severe pain patients that are like, you know,
this stuff is amazing. Yeah, even my steroids weren't working
this well. And I was told I can't do any
more steroids, right because they the steroids will actually then
(35:12):
cause the degeneration in the joint itself and actually start
to cause more problems than it actually helps with.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, And we usually put people on just a series
of so many it just depends, right, Yeah, And it
doesn't usually take too many.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
No, And as you do the injection, it's not a
big gauge needle, so most people are like, oh, I
didn't even feel that.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, they're kind of surprised.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Uh huh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So, you know, we have a lot of different types
of ways of working with pain and severe pain and
actually doing it with no negative effects.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Well, good, should we go on to the second one.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Let's go on to the second one.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
All right. So the second a of chronic pain is
activities of daily living. So Dutch by the how does
chronic pain interfere with the person's ability to carry, you know,
out everyday tasks.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Well, I mean that's one of the things that we
try to do outcome assessment. It's like, what can't you
do now that you would like to be able to do?
You know, I play with my grandchildren, play pickle ball.
I can't play pickleball anymore. Yeah, I can't get out
on the tennis court, you know, with my elbow, I
can't golf. I'm having trouble getting up and off the toilet.
(36:28):
M Yeah, it's a problem. That's a problem. So what
are the activities of daily living that are an issue
for you? And what do we need to do to
make the corrections? And so oftentimes, well, of course we
want to get someone out of pain, but then different
activities that they're doing actually were what are the things
(36:50):
that created the pain in the first place? How do
we make those corrections? One of the things is, you know,
if you have an abnormally a line knee, you're going
to have knee pain. So what we need to do
is to line the knee back up, strengthen it so
it can actually hold that alignment alignment, and then get
(37:12):
the gate, you know, get your gate back. You know,
there's probably some abnormalities along those lines that created the
knee problem in the first place. See how that works, right,
So what we do is we take it where it is.
Then then how do we reverse that so that as
you're going through your life, you're not creating the problem
(37:33):
over again. So one of the things that I've always
felt is that it's a disservice as a chiropractor to
make the alignment changes without doing the corrective exercises along
with it. Now, you as because you were in charge
of the rehab area, you found that it was so
much easier and so much better if I made the
(37:55):
correction first and then you did the corrective exercises. How
much better that work?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Right? You weren't fighting the structure, right, the structure because
it was aligned.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It was already aligned. So it's amazing how that all
works together. And then you add the acupuncture, the physiotherapies
for the healing, the supplementation along with it, the homeopathic,
the herbels, the nutraceuticals, and it makes it a very
very amazing type of a program.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
One of the things that we do is we do
pre and post pictures yeah on people. Right, So we
look at someone and we show them how much they're misaligned,
and then we make the adjustments, We do the corrective exercises,
and then show the changes that are the taken place.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, let's talk about little about that. So how can
dysfunction and structure like you got poor posture, which we evaluate.
We do a posture analysis. Sure, we do that at
their initial appointment before they're aligned, and we do it
at their reavowal which is between six and ten visits
(39:07):
after and then discharge and to see the changes. It's
just amazing. But how does the pasture, the gate issues,
joint restrictions interfere with daily activities.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
You were made to be in a certain position. That's
one of the things that we're really very strong in it.
Even like our alys orthogonal. Putting things in their proper
position is the thing that we're looking for. We're not
just looking to mobilize the spine, We're actually looking to
align it and align the entire body, including the muscles.
One of the things is that the structure affects function.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
So if you.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Had like a head forward carriage, that can lead to dementia.
It's very much involved in problems with upper motor Parkinson's.
A matter of fact, if we can get the head
back into proper position, a lot of the signs of
uppermotor neuron issues, Parkinson's and all the other different types
(40:06):
of diseases along those lines, symptoms go way down.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
HM. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Even with mental issues, posture position has a huge effect
mentally as far as what's going on. So structure is
going to affect how the brain's working as probably one
of the biggest things. It also affects the lungs, the
digestive system, the entire body starts to work better. Yeah,
that's one of the things that I sit there and
(40:33):
say to the functional doctors. One of the reasons that
you're not getting the same results as us because you're
doing a lot of the same things because you're not
working on the structure.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Sure, yeah, Okay, when we come back, let's share some
examples of how restoring structure improves someone's function in daily life.
We'll be right back. Never miss an episode of the
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Speaker 2 (41:54):
Told parents, well, we need to get your kids in
here just to get them checked out. And they said, oh, kids,
they're always healthy. And that's a very big misnomer because
when you're talking about the growth, the diet, all the
different types of things that go into childhood. When we
do blood work on children, very few of them actually
are in a normal range because the stressors that go on.
(42:16):
But in the United States, we also do have a
problem with infant in childhood mortality. Of all the developed nations,
we have the worst infant and childhood mortality rates.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
You're talking about right now, right now? Really yes?
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Wow, So you know when you're talking about who has
the best childhood mortality rates, it's the Japanese actually, who
do a very good job on that. They have the
lowest infant mortality rate of any of the countries. Those
are some of the things that we need to study
and find out.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
I'm really kind of shocked by that.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, I know, you know, you would think because we
do have the best disease care model in the world,
where we spend the most, have the most research, have
the most available ability of the pharmaceutical surgeries, vaccinations. The
number of vaccinations that we do for children is twice
as high as the next country. The country that gives
(43:10):
the least amount of vaccinations and has no requirement on it.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Is Japan, and they have the best and fitness.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Child mortality rates and health of their children.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
The structure function care is where you bring the body
back into homeostasis where it's supposed to work. There is
a balance and a perfect spot for perfect health. Health
is defined as homeostasis and homeostasis is defined as balance,
and we talk about structure function because both of those
have to be involved. The function is the physiology of
the body, and then the structure is the alignment and
(43:42):
the positioning of the body, and both of those go
into making a healthy, balanced individual. So structure function care
is really healthcare. Disease care is dealing with the symptoms
symptomatology based. All diseases are defined through the symptoms that
they create. Children are completely different for zoologically than adults, right.
Their immune system is completely different. None of the pharmaceuticals
(44:06):
or any of those types of things have ever been
tested on children, but they're giving them to them. Research
has been completely on adults. It is a ten times
greater risk for children than it is for an adult
as you'd put them on pharmaceuticals. So we are really
giving our children things that have not been tested out
properly to see how they respond on them, and we
(44:28):
don't really know what's occurring. All we can do is
look at the results of this and see that it's
a disaster. Children do not respond well to pharmaceutical.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
So you're saying, lea more of a natural approach.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
We can approach this in a very healthy type of
a way that doesn't put the child at risk and
still get results. Children respond even better to structure function care,
much quicker than adults do. Children really should be treated
structure functionally. When we talk about for the general adult population,
we're talking about and eighty twenty percent split pharmaceutically, we
(45:02):
should be doing about twenty percent of the healthcare eighty
percent should be structure function based where we're improving the
health and wellness of the individuals. The split in children
should be about a ninety eight percent structure function care
and about a two percent pharmaceutical base care. So really
switching how we're treating our children from a disease care
(45:22):
model into a structure function model should be a very
main emphasis with a much stronger type of push on
that than even for adults.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
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at the Voice of Health radio dot com. So beautiful.
So you're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor
(46:16):
Robert Prather of Holistic Integration, where our mission is restoring
hope to our patients. Well, since we're only at the
second A of chronic pain, we've decided this is going
to be part one of part two. So just wanted
our listeners to know that. So we've been talking about
the second A of chronic pain, activities of daily living,
(46:39):
and you know one thing working with patients. Two of
the activities that are really the toughest and you wouldn't
think of them, well, one you would golf, you know,
especially on that low back and vacuuming. Yeah. So you
know the most exciting thing is to get a golfer
back on the golf course, you know, working with them,
(47:01):
love to work with them, especially during the winter, get
him ready you know for spring, and then the vacuuming,
just teaching them different techniques. You know, I say, instead
of that vacuuming, you know, going out as your vacuuming,
it's more like that lever is an extension of your
belly button, so your body moves with it will protect
(47:24):
the back. You know. Little things like that really go
a long way. But Dodger Braither, I'm sure you got
a lot of examples of people that by improving and
restoring their structure, it's improved.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Their two a daily look.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
One of the ones that was pretty cool was a
older gentleman. He was ninety and he'd kind of lost
his zest for life, and his family brought him in
and said, you know, what can you do for great grandpa?
And what was exciting was that he used to love
to dance, and we got him so that he was
(48:04):
dancing again. M He actually had two full years, you
know before he passed away, but he was. They were
so excited because he had taken up dancing again and
he was actually very very good at it. And just
to see that, you know, that sparkle in his eyes again, yeah,
because it kind of kept him going. Another example was
(48:26):
a gentleman. This is really quite interesting. He came in
to me and it was during the fallen and he says,
there and he says, my shoulder, you know, was all
torn up, a rotator cuff, and he said, do you
think you can fix this without surgery? I looked at
him and said, well, you know, it's that would take
a lot of work. You know, you would have to
(48:47):
promise me. And I told him about how long it
would take, you know, Yeah, I said, it's going to
take about three to four months, you know, but you
really have to do this, this and this. He said, okay,
you know you're sure you can fix it.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
He said yep.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
So we went through and he was just really working
hard and I was really impressed. We got him back
and he says, there and he went out on a
golf course and he came out back very happy, and
he said, just to let you know, I actually golf
with six different surgeons, and I had made a bet
with them that I could, because they said there's no
(49:23):
way you're ever going to be able to golf again
unless you get surgery. And he says, well, you know,
can I take that bet on you guys, And so
he had made a bet with all six of them.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Oh, yeah, you did really well.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
And yes, yeah, and it was, to be honest with you,
it was ten thousand dollars each. Oh, and he went
out and bought it.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Bought a new car with it. So not that I'm
encouraging gambling, but he did win.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
They were like, yeah, you win. So that was just
a fun little one, you know.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
And I think, I mean another big story, mister Lynn.
You know, he went and drove his motorcycle in the Himalayans.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
You know, but there was no way he could do
that before.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yeah. I remember coming in and say, hey, I haven't
you know seen you for a little while. Well, yeah,
that's because I took my motorcycle on the Emalayan Mountains.
And then I saw him last week and he went
to a wedding and he was dancing on the floor,
I mean, you know, literally up it down. And you know,
(50:39):
this is someone that came to us and a lot
of pain, and he worked the Holistic Heart program. And
then there's patients that you know, I can get down
and play with my grandkids on the floor and back up,
I can pick up my grandchild when I couldn't before.
You know.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, all those things are very important. And I think
about a Parkinson's patient, which actually we do real well,
and working with them and then just changing that posture,
getting that back into a position, getting the feeling back
into the feet. It was like a totally new person.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
You know, his wife was just like in tears, do
you know, because she said, I got my husband back.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Yeah. Every time I go in that office, even if
I'm there for like thirty minutes to drop off their stories,
you know, and it's just just so encouraging. Yeah, so encouraging.
Is there anything more you want to cover in that
before we go to adverse effects?
Speaker 2 (51:36):
No, we can get Yeah, sorry with the adverse effects.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
So let's go to the thirday. What are the most
common side effects of chronic pain treatments? You know, particularly
opioids or long term medication use.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
So when you're talking about pain relief, you're talking really
about three things. On a drug level opiods and non
short anti inflammatory drugs and steroids. And an interesting thing
about opiods is that when I was going through school,
everybody knew not to give opiods, you know, because people
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would become addicted. And then they did the whole false
type of things where they promoted Purdue Pharmas specifically sit
there and put out that opiods, that it was a
misnomer and that we were being cruel to people because
we weren't giving them pain relief. And so the opiods
(52:34):
exploded along those lines. Even though most of the scientific
literature said that it was addictive, it was ignored and
promoted by pharmaceutical reps. Wow, And it just exploded, and
we became a huge problem, one that actually was considered
(52:55):
a national problem. We are right now in twenty twenty
three three, there was twenty three billion dollars worth of
opioids sold in the world. Sixty percent of the opiods
are sold in the United States. We only have four
percent of the population.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
The world's population.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
World's population, but we consume sixty percent of all the
opiods in the world. Wow, which is I consider a tragedy.
Now it is a decline from where it was a
high during the Obama administration. They did cut it down
by about twenty four percent as far as on prescription,
(53:36):
but it's if we were back to pre promotion type
of levels, we would only have about two billion dollars
worth of sales worldwide. So you know, about ten percent
really of the opiods is really justifiable in my.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Opinion, only ten percent of that, yeah, h.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
And so it's a real problem. And it's also growing
quite a bit. Yeah, so that is a very big problem.
I know so many people who've died. So talk about
adverse effects.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
All right, and we will take it from there on
adverse effects in part two next week. Well, thank you,
doctor Prayther.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Thank you, Lisa.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
Holistic Integration is located at eighty nine oh two North
Meridian Street on the north side of Indianapolis, just south
of the I four sixty five loop. If we can
help you to achieve better health, we'd love to hear
from you. Connect with our office at three one seven
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