August 30, 2025 • 54 mins
This week, we conclude a two-week series on the 4 areas of pain: Analgesia, Activities of Daily Living, Adverse Effects, and Aberrant Behavior. In this episode, you'll discover:
—Why Dr. Prather says "the only way to fix pain" is through Structure-Function Health Care, while the Disease Care approach focuses on the symptoms of pain.
—The best effectiveness for the Disease Care approach of pharmaceuticals on a short-term basis or end-of-life care, but not for long-term or chronic pain issues.
—How the long-term effect of opioids is actually…more pain. And the physiology behind how opioids actually destroy the body's natural opioid receptors.
—The shocking story behind how the pharmaceutical industry lied about the addictive nature of opioids. And why Dr. Prather describes them as "SOB's"!
—Dr. Prather's solution to the opioid crisis through natural, non-drug therapies that actually heal the body. And how Homeopathy, Acupuncture, and Auriculotherapy help patients overcome their opioid addiction without suffering from the terrible withdrawal symptoms that have even driven people to suicide.
—How the long-term effect of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAID's) is that they actually CAUSE Osteoarthritis. And how NSAID's not only destroy your joints, but your Liver and Kidneys as well.
—The natural alternatives that are more effective than NSAID's for Osteoarthritis, which is the #1 reason people take NSAID's. And how these "really great" alternatives actually HEAL the Osteoarthritis, in addition to taking down the pain.
—The Decompression Therapy at Holistic Integration that helps REVERSE the arthritis in the joints, which can be confirmed in follow-up X-Rays.
—How the long-term effect of steroids is the destruction of the joint, plus negative effects on the Endocrine System. And how studies have shown that 85% of Orthopedic surgeries are unnecessary and should have been dealt with through natural care first.
—Why the first steroid shot is where a patient will have their best results. And why Dr. Prather believes you should be hesitant to get a third shot and says "forget it" to any shots after that because it will only make things worse.
http://www.TheVoiceOfHealthRadio.com
—Why Dr. Prather says "the only way to fix pain" is through Structure-Function Health Care, while the Disease Care approach focuses on the symptoms of pain.
—The best effectiveness for the Disease Care approach of pharmaceuticals on a short-term basis or end-of-life care, but not for long-term or chronic pain issues.
—How the long-term effect of opioids is actually…more pain. And the physiology behind how opioids actually destroy the body's natural opioid receptors.
—The shocking story behind how the pharmaceutical industry lied about the addictive nature of opioids. And why Dr. Prather describes them as "SOB's"!
—Dr. Prather's solution to the opioid crisis through natural, non-drug therapies that actually heal the body. And how Homeopathy, Acupuncture, and Auriculotherapy help patients overcome their opioid addiction without suffering from the terrible withdrawal symptoms that have even driven people to suicide.
—How the long-term effect of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAID's) is that they actually CAUSE Osteoarthritis. And how NSAID's not only destroy your joints, but your Liver and Kidneys as well.
—The natural alternatives that are more effective than NSAID's for Osteoarthritis, which is the #1 reason people take NSAID's. And how these "really great" alternatives actually HEAL the Osteoarthritis, in addition to taking down the pain.
—The Decompression Therapy at Holistic Integration that helps REVERSE the arthritis in the joints, which can be confirmed in follow-up X-Rays.
—How the long-term effect of steroids is the destruction of the joint, plus negative effects on the Endocrine System. And how studies have shown that 85% of Orthopedic surgeries are unnecessary and should have been dealt with through natural care first.
—Why the first steroid shot is where a patient will have their best results. And why Dr. Prather believes you should be hesitant to get a third shot and says "forget it" to any shots after that because it will only make things worse.
http://www.TheVoiceOfHealthRadio.com
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, I'm Lisa Praither and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. We're talking today about the four a's of
Chronic Pain, Part two. Last week we did part one,
covered two, and we're going to cover the last two
(00:36):
this week.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Certainly. Yeah, So the four a's are analgesia, which we
covered last week, activities of daily living. Then we're going
to get into adverse effects and aberrant behavior. And those
four a's weren't something that we came up with. Those
are something that is one of the things that the
(01:00):
healthcare industry, CDC, FDA, all these big letters are sitting
there and saying that this is something that we need
to look into and what we're doing for chronic pain.
So we're picking up on that and giving a structure
function viewpoint on the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, and before we dive into these last two a's
of chronic pain, dot you prate the can you explain
the structure function model and how it applies to chronic pain,
because structure function care is what we do at Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Certainly, and the FDA whenever something new comes along, either
a product or a service, they divide it up into
either disease care or structure function care. Disease care is
dealing with symptomatology. Structure function care is bringing basically health
(01:54):
back through homeostasis and balance. So you're balancing the structure
and the function or physiology of the body to achieve
a more healthy individual.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, and how have you seen it be effective in helping,
you know, structure function care and chronic pain especially.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, it's very well known. The only way that you're
going to fix pain is through structure function care. What
you're looking for is for the disease care and model
is symptom based. So the disease care model is very
good for short term types of things or end of
life issues, and in those types of things, the disease
(02:36):
care model works well, but any type of long term
and of course we're going to talk about adverse effects
and why the disease care model is not good on
a long term type of basis and how structure function
should actually fit into that. And one of the things
is that there was a commission that was put together
by the government to evaluate what would be the best
(03:00):
way to approach pain because of the opioid crisis. And
they came out basically with a structure function model, and
I was very excited about that, very surprised and very pleased.
And of course they said, well, we need to have
the drug companies look it over, and of course they
just tort all the shreds and said that we're not
(03:21):
putting this out. And of course we believe in an
eighty twenty split, eighty percent of all cares should be
structure function based, in twenty percent disease care because there
are definite times where the opiods, the nonstal anti inflammatory drugs,
and steroids work very well. However, when you talk about
any type of long term type of thing, really that's
(03:43):
where structure function care should come in.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Okay, well, let's talk about the third A adverse effects,
So dodger pray there. What are the most common side
effects of chronic pain treatments, you know, particularly opiods and
long term medications.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know, sure, just dealing with opiods at the beginning,
The long term effect of opiods is pain. What you're
trying to get out of, what you're trying to get
out of so, and let me explain the physiology of
how that works. Opiod's what they do. You produce opiods naturally,
and it's important to be able to have that because
(04:21):
that establishes your baseline pain, your pain threshold. So you
have natural opiods, and when you take opiods, it does
help out with pain, but it destroys your body's ability
to make opiods and it also destroys the opid receptors.
(04:44):
Let me repeat that. So it destroys your own body's
ability to make its own pain relief and then it
also destroys the opiate receptors. And well, I have no
pain right now. And if I started to take opiods
after three months and then I tried to quit, I
(05:04):
would be in pain. Interesting, So, opiods in a long
term type of a usage creates pain.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They should be used only short term.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Short term because then you can actually you don't do
damage in a short term type of way. So long
term type of use will actually create one an addiction
where your body sits there and says I have to
have it. And the withdrawal of going through that is
(05:37):
a lot of people actually commit suicide instead of trying
to go through the withdrawal of opiods.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So when you say short term, what do you mean
by that?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Two weeks? You know, really a two week type of thing,
you're not going to be really in problems. And when
I got out of school, nobody gave opiods past that
level because everyone knew that it was addictive. And then
you started getting a marketing firm that said, you know
what product am I going to be able to sell
(06:09):
to make billions? Well, pain's a real problem, something that's addictive.
Let's push opiates. And they falsified a whole bunch of
information and put it out there that opiod's a very
small number, maybe three percent of the people actually have that,
And that came from a not a peer reviewed journal.
(06:33):
It was something that was a op ed that was
sent in to the New England Journal of Medicine. And
the doctor was shot to find out later on that
it was his little op ed that was used to
justify all this movement selling opiods, and they wind in
(06:54):
dying doctors. They sit there and doctors made fortunes off
of it. Pharmaceutical company became absolutely huge on the billions
that they got. And the interesting thing is they actually
did a study now, as they pushed it, Purdue Pharma
actually did a study on how many people would become
(07:15):
addicted and how many people would probably die from it,
and they were they were right on, so, you know,
in other words, these sobs knew exactly what the results
were going to be. And yeah, yeah, it's it's another
it's another initial and they knew exactly what was going
(07:37):
to happen, and you know, the crisis that it was
going to occur, and you know, the Surgeon General said, hey,
you know, you guys just got to quit prescribing this,
and he sent out another letter saying, you're not stopping
prescribing that. I actually got one of those letters, and
you guys aren't stopping, you know, find only there was
(08:01):
about a almost a twenty five twenty four percent reduction
in the number of opiods that were prescribed, but it
was still, I mean, the amount of opiates that we've
prescribed before this whole push was probably just two percent
of how much opiods we sell nowadays.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Now, and I want clarity. You got one of those
letters because you're a physician, correct, not because.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You were prescribing. Yes, I don't prescribe at all. Yeah,
but you know, it was something that was sent out
and saying, hey, you know, we need to change this situation,
and there was actually criminal prosecution and people were getting
into trouble. I mean, I had a woman who came in.
She was a pastor's wife eighty years old, who had
(08:47):
been put on some opiods by her doctor for pain
relief and then cut her off. And now the pastor
was having to go out and buy street drugs so
that she wouldn't have to go through the withdrawal. And
this woman had never taken a drink in her life,
(09:09):
and she was a drug addict now. And so many
lives were ruined through this practice. And now, in twenty
twenty three, there was twenty three billion dollars worth of
opiods sold in the world, and sixty percent of it
was here in the United States. And we only have
(09:29):
four percent of the population. So this is still a
crisis that has not been resolved. We still haven't gotten
over it. Somehow, the mindset now that opiods are okay
has still lingered, even though that we know that they
are not. And it was interesting because there was a
(09:52):
push on how are we going to get over this
opioid crisis, and so there was a lot of money
that was brought into the Satan. I actually, with some
other natural doctors put out a thing, Hey, we have
some solutions along those lines which I would like to
talk about, the solutions for the opiod and we wanted
(10:12):
to put it out and basically as we looked at that,
and they came back said, you know, unless you have
a drug solution to the opid crisis, you're not going
to get anywhere. And I know people who actually submitted
things basically more drugs for the opid crisis as the
(10:33):
way to do it, and they got like two hundred
thousand dollars grant.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right, And it's a stacked deck. You know, it's a
disregard for the people. And really the people are the
only ones who can change it, because you were not
going to get it from the government. We're not going
to get it from our health officials. It's going to
have to be people who sit there and say enough,
we don't believe you, we don't trust you, mm hm,
(11:01):
and we're not going to follow your rules anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, all right, Well, and we're going to talk more.
We're going to talk about the solution to the adverse effects.
When we come back on the four a's of chronic Pain,
We'll be right back. Does your group or organization need
a speaker for an event, The Voice of Health Radio
can come do a live show and take audience questions
on the most important health topics. Learn more on our
(11:26):
speaker's bureau page at the Voice of Health radio dot com.
This is the Voice of Health with doctor Robert Praither.
The Voice of Health Wellness Tip featuring rapid release technology.
Dot your Praither. Anything you want to share about the
repid release Well, it.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Works on the fascion tissue and also on trigger points,
which we used to do by scraping and it's as
bad as it sounds with a scraping, but now we
can actually use that and it's actually a very gentle
type of a procedure. Used to have to kind of
dig in on people and kind of get that released.
(12:03):
But what the rapid release is it uses actually a
vibration to more efficiently and more gently break up fashion
material that is a problematic thing for people, and also
a great release for trigger points. So it's become a
very essential part of our treatment and actually everyone's most
(12:24):
favorite thing to have done.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yes, when we go to events, people love it.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Here.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I walked in and I could hear it being used
right the right time I walk into the office.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And just to let you know, the scraping was not
one of the more favorite things that patients used to
have done.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, just the word scraping. And it really doesn't take
but the rapid release much pressure at all to make
a change.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, it's actually the vibration that actually changes it. I know.
It's used by almost every professional team now as part
of their care and it's something that you can have no, Yeah,
and people just swear by it, and a lot of
people actually come in specifically for that treatment.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Relax muscles and release aches, pains, and tention through rapid
releases high speed vibration therapy. Experience the benefits of rapid
release therapy by scheduling an appointment at Holistic Integration and
to purchase your own go to our website at the
Voice Ofhealth radio dot com, click on the rapid Release
banner and enter code preyther pr a t h R
(13:30):
for one hundred dollars discount for the Voice of Health
Radio listeners. The Voice of Health minute with doctor Robert
Prather of Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well, there's a lot of different theories about pain. The
theory that we actually operate from in our office is
that it's a blockage of energy, and we have five
pathways of energy. We've got the nervous system, the lymphatic system,
the circulatory system, the cerebral spinal fluid system, and then
we have the electromagnetic system. As I'm evaluating someone who's
(14:02):
in pain, I'm looking to see which one of those
five pathways is actually occurring, because it makes a big
difference on how we treat it. We determine which one
of those pathways is blocked and get that opened up,
and that's why we get such quick results. And if
you don't have energy blockage, you don't have pain. Our
(14:23):
model is not proven, but it works. You get the
energy flowing, the pain goes away. There's just a lot
of physiological things that happen to the body when you're
in pain. Your pH your chemistry, your energy goes low.
And so to be able to heal, to get the
healing that I want to see and people, I have
to get them out of pain and get them out
(14:43):
of pain very quickly. Matter of fact, we're usually looking
at a two week window to get people out of pain.
Otherwise I reevaluate because we're not doing something quite right.
So pain's an enemy when it wears you down, but
it's a friend to tell you that there's something wrong.
And a lot of people give up as far as
on their pain. You know, it's something like people who
(15:05):
have chronic headaches. Eighty percent just give up, and we're
pretty much one hundred percent successful on them. It's a
matter of knowing what to do and how to get
the body balanced.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Schedule your appointment at Holistic Integration three one, seven, eight, four, eight,
eighty forty eight Holistic Integration Restoring Hope.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
A good.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yes Up. You're listening to the Voice of Health with
doctor Robert Prather of Holistic Integration, the most comprehensive wellness
center in the Midwest. We're talking today about the four
A's of Chronic Pain, Part two, and last week we
(15:55):
did the first two. I've been talking about adverse effects
and then adberant behavior. We're going to talk about We're
talking about opioids, Doctor prayther and what is the solution
you know, to the crisis.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So, of course opiate's is what brought China down, the
opium wars, all that type of thing, and it will
destroy civilization. And you know, it's amazing the number of
people that have died that I even know of from
the opioids and how that has really affected America. I
(16:31):
don't think we're quite aware of that. So it is
a real big problem that we still have here, and
it is something that is still promoted by the medical
profession and the answer to that. So I have had
patients come in with opiate addictions. Had one patient came
in and gave him a homeopathic for it, and it
(16:56):
was he was done. Wow, you know, is like I
no longer have the craving. It's you know, how do
you do that? Because he says, I've been through the
detoxification before and it was horrible. So homeopathy is a
very very good way of being able to go through
(17:16):
the detox instead of going through that horrible pain and
you know, trying to be able to deal with that,
and a lot of people would just rather die than
go through that, So the detaxification is really awful. And
of course the whole problem with the opioids is you'd
need to continue to take more to get the same benefit,
(17:38):
and so you increase it and it takes over your life.
It takes over your mind. Nothing else really matters, but
getting that one of the things that is very very excellent.
Homeopathy is very good for the opioids. The other thing
is the acupuncture. Now, the interesting thing about acupunctures. I've
(18:01):
had people who were on opiods sometimes coming in for it,
but sometimes they didn't, hadn't even told me that that
they had had an opiate addiction, and we did acupuncture
on them and they say, oh, I need to see
you after the acupuncture treatment.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah. The patient said then yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And I said yes, And they go, you had opiods
on the end of those needles, don't you, Because I
can tell when I get opiods, you know, by accident,
you know, through sesame seeds or all sorts of different
types of ways. And I said, no, that's your own
opiated production kicking in. So acupuncture is something because people
(18:45):
fall asleep, people feel better acupuncture. If you are measuring
the blood levels of your opiods increase automatically whenever you
get acupuncture. It's very interesting. Not quite sure the mechanisms
of that, but we absolutely know it's true. So it
increases the natural production of your opiods, and acupuncture will
(19:11):
also heal the receptors for the opiods, so you can
get that type of treatment and start to reheal your
own production. So homeopathy is extremely good to be able
to work through the whole process of detexification getting off
(19:33):
of it. We use homeopathy quite a few for a
lot of medications. One, it cuts down if you're taking it,
it cuts down on the side effects and actually improves
the ability of the drug to actually work properly. So
it's a really great thing and we do that an
awful lot. But then for the opiods, what it does
is it helps you to be able to get off
(19:55):
of them and to stop the cravings. It's like it
turns the which on the body.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
The homeopathy.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The homeopathy does acupuncture and aricular. Now the auricular works
on the brain aspect, that's the addiction portion, so that
you can do the auricular and stop the brain effect
of the drugs.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And explain aurricular.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, aurricular is like acupuncture for the ear, but it
works specifically on the brain, so you can stimulate electrically
or different parts and then you can actually see different
areas of the brain light up. So there are ways
to work on the brain addiction, both for smoking, for opioids,
(20:40):
for cocaine, for any type of an addiction the pornography,
to be able to stop that addiction by working on
the ear. And it's interesting because the opiate addiction is
not just a physical but also a brain addiction. So
and that's one of the things, of course, on the
(21:01):
AVERD behavior that we're going to talk about what goes
on with that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And you know, if people are like I'm a I'm
afraid of needles, we also do the acupuncture laser, we
use powder.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
We have different ways of stimulating that and getting that
type of effect.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know, it was interesting, you said, and when they
fill out the medical form, but this gentleman didn't tell
you that he had an addiction.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Well, I mean I've had people who did, but I
mean it's very consistent. Matter of fact, if I know beforehand,
I actually let them know, but sometimes they don't tell me.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Well, I was thinking just the shame involved in it. Well,
you're talking about this pastor's wife. You know, never had
a drink in her life, never, and all of a
sudden she's addicted to opioids.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, she's a drug addict now, HM, through no fault
of her own, right. And you know there's stories about
you know, young men who've gotten a knee injury, they
were put on opioids and they continued them too long
and then they become drug addicts. These things happen all
the time. And really the answer, of course is that
(22:15):
you know, you treat the pain, but you treat it
with therapy. But the problem is is the chiropractic, the acupuncture,
the physical therapy, the physiotherapy isn't covered by insurance, but
they will cover the addictive drugs. Yeah, you know, things
are backwards, Things are backwards.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
What else do you want to share on the adverse effects?
I want to make sure we cover everything in this segment.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Well, for the opioids, there's the whole problems along those lines.
And you know, just one of the things I want
to do is get into advert behavior on the opiods,
since we're talking about that.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
One of the problems is that we're very good for
getting people off of the opioids and having a very
good effect. The problem is is that a lot of
the people don't want to. You know, there was even
some people were brought in and said, hey, you know,
can you show us how effective you are? You know,
as far as getting people off of the opioids. And
(23:16):
it's interesting, it's a smaller number. The majority of people
are very attached to their addiction. So you need to
be able to get people to want to be off
of their drugs. So there is averrid behavior with opiods
(23:38):
is people embrace their demon, they embrace they're high. It's
an interesting thing because I've talked to people who are
involved in drug addiction, is that whenever there is like
a death from an overdose, you would think sales would
go down. Sales go Why is that because it means
(24:03):
that there's a stronger dose out there, So you know
there's something out there that's really strong, So hey, I
really want to get that high. And they would rather,
they would risk dying to get a bigger high. And
(24:23):
so it becomes a pathological type of a hope. It's
you know, you're no longer you You're no longer thinking
in a reasonable type of way. Whereas you and I
if something is like killed somebody, I think I'm going
to not go down that street, they head right towards
(24:44):
it because of the changes that have taken place through
the drugs that have taken over who they are. And
that's really averd behavior. So it is a situation where
where people become their own worst enemy and it's very
(25:04):
hard to actually fix. So the biggest thing is never
to allow that to actually occur. So be aware and
when someone you know wants to put you on opiate's,
hey is there? You know that's the last thing I
want to do. Now. If I have major surgery, I'm
going to take an opiate, you know what I mean,
(25:25):
But I'm going to say, hey, after two weeks, I'm done.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Right, but don't need another script.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
If I have an injured knee, I'm going to go
someplace where they actually work on the knee and fix
Because there is a tremendous amount of ability for structure
function care to fix pain. So we need to get
the pain under control through chiropractic, acupuncture, physiotherapy, activities of
(25:52):
daily living, physical physical therapy, all those types of things.
That's how you fix pain and it's very effective.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
All right, When we come back more on the four
a's of chronic pain, listen to the Voice of Health
Radio on your smartphone or tablet on all of the
top radio apps available tune In Radio, Stitcher, and iHeartRadio.
You can find these apps and more on our website
at the Voice of Health radio dot com. This is
(26:20):
the Voice of Health with doctor Robert Prather Lefter is
the best medicine. I miss COVID. I know, dude, you
know what I knew.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
There was trouble when anyone that came to our country
didn't have to get a vaccine. And I go, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
If you're telling me I can't go to work, but
everyone coming in doesn't have to get one, we go well.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Once we found out when Fauci said, Okay, I'm sorry.
If you've had two boosters and tu vaccine, you can
get and give COVID to another guy who's had five
vaccines and full boosts. What's a vaccine a boost? So
I don't know, it's just more vaccine, but booster sounds
better anyway, A guy with twenty five vaccines would get
(27:01):
in and give COVID to another.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Guy with pointy five vaccines.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
That's why I'm introducing.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
The daily COVID shot.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Every day you get it. Yat By the time you
get to your car, you got no immunity, but it's
a beautiful thirty nine seconds.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
The pro Performance three sixty therapy at Holistic Integration combines
balance therapy and mechanical motion therapy. Our pro Performance three
sixty program can improve your stability, mobility, muscle coordination, range
of motion, cognitive function and balance. And we're joined by
two key members of Holistic Integration's structural team, our associate chiropractor,
(27:42):
doctor Dodge and Alana, who heads up our rehab department.
Can you share some success stories of someone who saw
major improvements in balance.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I do have a patient. She did purchase orthotics. She
has done the balance program twice with us. She did
it so well that her doctor call from Ohio to
ask us, hey, last time I saw this patient, she
was very off balance. Now that I'm seeing her, she
is not only balanced, but her postures. She's standing upright,
her shoulders are back, her head is coming back. Annie
(28:14):
also said when she walks, she feels more confident because
she has her pro balance orthotic sin. So just to
hear that and to hear that confirmation from another provider,
it's just confirmation that shows that what we're doing here
in our office is making a difference.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
And when he and I talked, he started the conversation,
what are you doing? This was the typical little old
lady that was on the verge of using a walker,
bent over forward, head three to five inches too far forward,
not standing up straight. You call her name and she
wasn't going to be able to turn her head, but
(28:47):
had to start moving her body to rotate. And now
she is standing up. Her head is still attle bit forward,
she still does have a bit of a hunch, but
she's standing up straight.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And she's more confident in her balance her day to
day life. It doesn't have to be in fear. She
can do what she wants to do and how she
would like to do it in a timely fashion that
she wants to do it. Because she has the ability
to move, she has the ability to be stable.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Who would benefit for pro performance therapy everybody.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Here's what I like to say. Pro performance therapy is
designed to help you go where you want to go,
do what you want to do, and do it feeling safe, stable,
comfortable and secure. So if there's anything you want to
do better, you want to feel better, you want to
function higher, and you want to feel that way, then
it's for you.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
From athletes who want to maximize their results to elderly
patients who desire to improve their balance and avoid dangerous falls,
the Pro Performance three sixty therapy at Holistic Integration can
benefit anyone seeking to get the most out of their
daily performance. Learn more about Pro Performance three sixty therapy
at Holistic Integration three one seven eight four eight eighty
(29:59):
five eight that's three one seven eight four eight eighty
forty eight or online at the Voice of Health radio
dot com. Are you experiencing muscle pain or tightness anywhere
on your body, try the Rapid Release Therapy Cordless Pro three.
The Cordless Pro three is a targeted, high speed vibration
therapy device used by medical professionals to quickly relieve a
(30:21):
wide variety of aches and pains. After years of development,
the Rapid Release Therapy Cordless Pro three is the latest
and rapid release technology. It's more powerful, quieter and lightweight
with a long battery life, and best of all, it's cordless, safe, effective,
and easy to use. This professional quality medical device has
five built in heads, giving you the versatility to treat
(30:43):
small bony surfaces such as fingers, wrists, and ankles, and
powerful enough to quickly relax the tightest hips on professional athletes.
Unlike the low speed percussive devices, rapid release therapy delivers
for sensitive areas like joints, neck and ankles safely and comfortably,
and provides the raw power your larger muscle groups need.
Go to our website at the Voice of Health radio
(31:06):
dot com, click on the rapid Release banner and enter
code preyther p R a t h e R for
one hundred dollars discount for the Voice of Health Radio listeners.
I'm Lisa Prather, and you're listening to the Voice of
(31:27):
Health with doctor Robert Prether of Holistic Integration, where we
get to the root cause of your health issue. We're
talking today on the four a's of Chronic Pain, Part two,
and we've been talking about adverse effects, and we've been
talking about opioids.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
What about NSAID, nonstortal anti inflammatory drugs.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Let's talk about that well with their effects.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It is a twenty four billion dollar industry worldwide and
forty three percent of all the cells are to the
four percent of Americans. Now, it's interesting that Americans buy
more than anybody else, So obviously we're in more pain
than everybody else, which isn't true, right, So you know, one,
(32:18):
we have a special problem here in the United States
on drugs. We consume a tremendous amount of opiods, we
consume a tremendous amount of nonstoil anti inflammatory drugs. We
have a drug culture and that's one of the major
problems that we have. So twenty four billion, forty three
(32:40):
percent are sold to Americans, which is four percent of
the population. Now, there's a lot of reasons people take
nonsial anti inflammatory drugs. The most common one about I
think almost eighty percent is because of osteoarthritis. That's where
the big thing is coming in. And of course we
(33:01):
have an aging population. So it's estimated that just from
the United States alone, it's supposed to increase by twenty
thirty up to thirty two billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Wow, So it's just going up.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
It's just going up. And so that's a real big
area of drug growth. So if you want to make
an investment, that's a good place to go. But hopefully
we can actually show that that's not a good idea
because the problem with nonsturetal anti inflammatory drugs. Is that
it let me repeat this, It causes osteoarthritis.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And I want to make sure our listeners know in
two weeks we're going to be doing a show on osteoarthritis.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, yeah, and how we actually treat that. So nonstory
l anti inflammatory drugs actually cause osteoarthritis. So if you
didn't have osteoarthritis and you started taking nonstory l anti
inflammatory drugs, within about six months, you will have osteoarthritis.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Does it do that?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It destroys the cartilage in the joints. It's very well
known to do that. We're very aware of that. You
can take it again, non story anti inflammatory drugs if
you take it short term. Let's say you have an injury,
they work great, you know until you kind of until
you get it healed up. If you have menstrual cramps,
(34:23):
you have you know, different types of pains right then
when you're trying to get the inflammation down. Nonstory land
tie inflammatory drugs are absolutely fantastic. You take it on
a daily basis and it will destroy your joints. So
it's interesting you take opiate's for the pain and it
(34:45):
causes pain. You take non story lantine inflammatory drugs for osteoarthritis,
and it causes osteoarthritis, so you build. You know, it's
an interesting model. Yeah, you know, you have to take more,
and you have to continue to take and you're taking
it the entire time. But not only does it destroy
your joints, but it also causes kidney, liver damage and
(35:08):
other different types of issues. Where I've had people who
were basically ready to go on dialysis because they were
taking non story of anti inflammatory drugs for their austere arthritis.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Wow, so it'll destroyed their kidneys.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It will actually kill you. And so we sit there
and say, well, you know you've got to stop those,
and they're like, well I can't, I'm in too much pain.
I said, well, we can take care of the pain
met effect. I had one patient who was a runner
and he was like, well, you know, I'm going to
continue run, and the only way I can keep running
is the drugs aren't taking. And he actually came in
(35:45):
for kidney problems and I sat there. I said, well,
they're destroying your kidneys. This is the reason. He said, well,
why didn't they tell me that? I said, well, because
they're drug pushers.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, you know, I can read the side effects.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Right, So I said, you've got to stop that, And
he said, well, you know what do I do? And
I said, well try you know, and I had pro trauma.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, and tell listeners to pro trauma.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yes. It has a combination of herbs and vitamins and
some amino acids. And then also I total him to
take some hyaluronic acid with it, and he started to
take those things, and within two weeks he says, well,
this is actually working better than the non stolantine inflammatory drugs. Yeah.
(36:32):
The whole thing is that for the pain opiods, we
have some really good supplements that you can take that
actually help with the pain, that are actually good for you.
And then we also have things to help with the osteoarthritis,
really great things for the osteoarthritis which actually will heal
(36:55):
the osteoithritis and take down the pain. That works much
better than the drugs. So the drugs aren't really necessary
if you're looking just to take things. Because he was
a very non compliant patient, really didn't want to come
in and get treated. You know, he got a few treatments.
(37:16):
They worked real well, but he basically said, I just
want to take something, and so we set him up
on that and he's still on him but he can
run now and not have any problems, and in his
kidney's healed up. So it's a matter of having an
understanding of what are the nutraceuticals, what are the things
(37:37):
that are structure function based, because structure function is again, well,
it does work on the symptoms, but that's not the goal.
The goal is to heal. And the drugs are you know,
understanding what a drug is. A drug is to deal
with the symptoms and if the drug doesn't make you
(37:58):
more unhealthy, and it can't be classified as a drug.
It's just like what Eli Lilly said. Eli Lily said, drugs,
if they don't cause problems, they can't be classified as
a drug.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Right. Well, as you know, I play pickleball. I'm one
of those pickleball cult people, the cults. But it amazes
me how many people I play with that are taking
over the counter yes on a daily basis, you know,
And it's so great that I don't need to do that,
(38:35):
you know, if I you know what, I haven't had
knee pain in so long because I did the decompression.
Why don't we talk a little bit about that helpful
that is and using if I need to use the
pro trauma, but it's not a constant thing.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Sure, yeah, yeah. Interestingly enough, one of the things, and
we didn't actually talk about that as one of the
treatments is what you do is you take the joint
and you pump it. Decompression is what decompression is. And
as you pump it, you start to get the fluid
back into the joint, hydrates it stimulates it so that
(39:12):
it starts to actually reverse the whole arthritis. I had
one gentleman and he says, there, he says, you know,
the the adjustments have worked really well, the acupuncture, but
you know, my neck it still kind of clicks. It's
kind of hard to move it. You know, what are
you going to do about that? And I sat there
and I said, well, that's weird. The decompression should have
(39:35):
done that. And he kind of goes oh. I said, well,
you you would recommend a decompression, You're you're doing it
right now. I decided not to, and I said, well
that's your problem. You still have all the austriarthritis through
the neck, so you know, go do the decompression and
(39:56):
after two times he was like, oh, yeah, that's working.
You know, because a lot of people will pick and choose,
and we don't recommend things unless they're needed. But that
is something that is very interesting because we'll sit there
and go back, you know, like, okay, let's retake your
x rays and you had a seventy five percent loss
(40:19):
of disk height of L five and S one and
guess what, you now have ten percent loss. You know,
we've show it on the x rays that the radiologist says, yeah,
there's been a change, and yes, the osteoarthritis is actually disappearing.
So you can actually reduce those things, right, So taking
(40:41):
the proper supplements, you know, taking collagen type of thing,
also getting into the glucosamine condroit and getting into the herbels,
the anti inflammatories, getting into the things that will actually
heal it back up the body can revert a lot
(41:01):
of the degeneration that goes.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
On no matter how old you are.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah. Yeah, it's just like I went back and last
time I talked about a guy who was ninety years
old and it would be great if he could dance again.
That's he kind of got and we did the things.
We did, the decompression, we did all the different types
of treatments, getting on some supplements, and he was basically,
you know, he reversed his biological age and could start
(41:27):
dancing again.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
M hmm. Right, because there's the chronological age, but then
there's the biological age.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Right. And as I tell people, if you're allowing nature
to take place, nature's going to decompose you. You know,
if you're not actively doing the things that you need
to do, you know, through supplementation, herbyls, doing the proper exercises,
making sure that you're in alignment, you do the acupuncture,
(41:53):
you do all these types of things. You're fighting against
the decomposition that nature you're trying to do, trying to
turn you back into dust. If you're not actively working
on it, you're going into dust. That's just the way
it is.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Well on that word. All right, we'll be right back
with our last segment on the four a's of chronic pain.
Being right back. Never miss an episode of the Voice
of Health so that you can stay informed and empowered
about your health. Get a podcast of our show automatically
delivered to you every week by signing up for our
show on iTunes. You can find that link on our
(42:31):
website at the Voice of Health radio dot com. And
don't forget the Voice of Health radio dot com has
complete archives of all of our past episodes with an
audio library of information to help you add more life
to your years and more years to your life. This
is the Voice of Health with Doctor Robert Prether, The
(42:51):
Voice of Health Wellness Tip with Doctor Robert Prether of
Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Headaches really shouldn't be ignored. And it's interesting because people
who have chronic headaches, about seventy five percent of them
have actually given up. That is a shame because there's
usually always an answer. As matter of fact, I have
never had a case on our office of headaches that
we couldn't find what was the underlying cause. Even the
(43:19):
quality of the headaches. Headaches are different. One of the
most common ones that causes it is the greater ocipal
nerve they also call it the headache nerve, goes from
the back of the occiput up to the eyes. There
are migraines, which is a totally different type, cluster headaches,
hormonal headaches, gallbladder can actually cause headache. Looking at all
those different types of things, whether it's physiological or whether
(43:42):
it's structural. All those signs and symptoms kind of help
us to get to where we need to be. Migraines
are much more common with females. Usually there's an aura
or visual or hearing differences that occur. Usually it's also
a one sided type of headache, but it has to
do with the vasculature. You're having contractions and dilations of
the arteries. Oftentimes you're talking about food allergies. About forty
(44:07):
percent of all migraines are controlled by food allergies. Of course,
you always need to make sure that the atlas is set,
but sometimes it's not associated with a misalignment, but more
to do with allergies. Copper zinc ratio also seems to
play a very big role. Birth control pills can play
a big role in when you're going through your mental period.
(44:27):
There's a lot of shifting on the copper zinc ratio.
Hair analysis is the best way to measure that out.
Getting that balance seems to be major a major issue.
Almost all hormonal headaches are migraine headaches, but they are
kicked off by the hormones. Many times, it's not really
a structural issue, but a endercon issue. What you have
to do is you have to do all the diagnostics,
(44:50):
the lab tests, blood tests, urine tests to find out
what's going on with the hormones, how they're off, and
what you need to do to get those back under control.
When you're dealing with hormones, female hormones, it's always a
moving target. You have to do a lot of adjustment
and I tell people, we're going to have to work
with this, and we'll need to see you on a
regular basis to get this under control. And you're going
to think it's all under control, while Doc, I'm feeling
(45:11):
so much better. And it not only translates into the
headaches being gone, it also helps with the emotional A
lot of things clear up as we do that, so
there's usually more involved than just the headaches, though it's
the headaches that actually brought them in. Hypertension headaches you
have to look at and say, hey, this can be
a dangerous situation. If it's high enough to cause you
(45:31):
a headache, it can also start to be high enough
to cause an aneurysm or a stroke. We actually have
very good results because as you're dealing with the pharmaceuticals
on that all you're doing is taking care of the symptence.
We try to get to the underlying problem, but seventy
percent of the time to eighty percent of the time
it's kidneys. So you heal up the kidneys, you get
rid of the high pertension rebound. Headaches are from pharmaceuticals.
(45:53):
We've had several patients who came in. We went through
all the different types of aspects of their headaches, getting
that under control. But one of the problems is we
had to get them off of the pharmaceuticals they were
taking because it was the pharmaceuticals themselves were causing the headaches,
and going off of them can actually even cause headaches.
You have to make some homeopathics and get that under
control with them.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Schedule your appointment at Holistic Integration three one seven eight
four eight eighty forty eight. That's three one seven eight
four eight eighty forty eight, or learn more on our
website at the Voice of Health radio dot com. Really
(46:38):
you're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor Robert
Prather of Holistic Integration, where our mission is restoring hope
to our patients. We're talking today about the four A's
of Chronic Pain Part two and talking about adverse effects
and admerant behavior. Doctor Prather, let's talk about steroid.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Sure, So when you're talking about steroids, usually you're talking
about injections. And I heard from people who were basically
dealing with osteoarthritis where when steroids first came out and
they discovered it started to use it, they were like,
what are we going to do with our time? Because
this is going to fix everything, And unfortunately we found
(47:21):
out that it didn't because well, the body produces its
own steroids to actually take down inflammation. So one of
the things is a lot of people have come into
us and said, well, you know, my doctor said he
can't do any more steroids, so you know, I need
to find some alternative because I got a steroid shot
in my back and you know I can't get any more.
(47:43):
The reason is is because steroids will eventually destroy a joint,
so again you've got negative effects along those lines. It
can actually cause endercren issues. There's an awful lot that's
involved with that, so that you can't do steroids on
a long term type of basis. Matter of fact, a
(48:03):
steroid shot on you know, the first one, usually you
get your best results. And hopefully if you go in
for a steroid shot because of pain and they do
the injection and the pain's gone, great, If it doesn't
work and you need a second one, you're not going
to get the same results, and then you should be
(48:26):
kind of hesitant to do a third one. After a
third one, forget it. It's not gonna help. It's just
gonna make everything worse. So interesting, that's the type of
way that you look at that. And again, drugs can
be extremely helpful. Steroids can be something that can be
life saving, you know, as far as taking that getting
(48:48):
the inflammation down, and you need those. Sometimes the shots
can get things, you know, terrible pain under control. So
those are all can be good things long term use,
and then getting to the root of the problem is
really where you need to go. So again it's a
(49:08):
short term type of a benefit and can be a lifesaver,
just like opiates can be amazing nonstoryal anti inflammatory drugs
used properly can be great. Steroids can be something that
can be very very helpful, But any type of a
long term type of use, it will eventually cause a
(49:30):
huge amount of health problems.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
And there's so much more out there that's more natural
and helps the body heal.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, and there have been times where you know, I've
even sent people out for a steroid shot a feeling
that that would be something that needs to be gotten
under control quickly. So you know, it's not something that
I'm against, but it is something that needs to be
understood and worked accordingly. You know, one of the main
(50:02):
problems that we have is that we have the direct
advertising to people.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Right, and that's something you said you'd want to change
in regards to chronic pain. You ended the show last
week about that.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, but I mean, I know Robert Kennedy that was
one of the things that he promised to do when
he got in is to stop the direct advertising. There's
only one other country that allows that. That's New Zealand.
All the other countries say, of course, we don't allow
drug companies to advertise directly to patients. Patients shouldn't be
making that decision. The doctor should because people will pressure
(50:43):
their doctor into giving them something that they shouldn't have.
So direct marketing to patients is something that shouldn't be
done and people shouldn't be deciding that they should be
on a drug that should be done. And then really
the first thing is that you should always try to
do something naturally instead of pharmaceutically or surgery. That's your
(51:08):
first as your first type of option. They have found
that the more orthopedic surgeons that you have, the more
orthopedic surgeries occur. When they have actually done studies on
orthopedic surgeries, how many were actually necessary. Really a lot
of times eighty five percent weren't really now should have
(51:31):
been dealt with naturally. So the other thing is going
into the surgeries, because whenever you do surgeries, there is
the possibility of problems, and you should always try natural
care first. There are times that I've sent people out
for back surgery because it was necessary, and there's a
(51:52):
lot of times that I said, no, give this a
try for this length of time, and usually the outcome
will be much better. When they did the studies on
back surgeries, well, neck surgeries have much worse back surgeries.
They found that the first five years they usually do
better if they've had the back surgery. After that they
(52:15):
usually do worse than if they had never gotten the
back surgery in the first place.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
So we have a few minutes and I want to
make sure to cover you know, how can patients and
providers better collaborate to address all four a's effectively?
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Well, you should always say, hey, doc, you know, is
there a natural way that I could probably work on
this first? You know, so the patient taking responsibility along
those lines, saying I'm not looking for the easy way out.
I want to find out what's the best way, what
is my least risk of doing treatments? And can I
(52:55):
do this without drugs and surgery?
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (52:58):
And then seek out a structure function doctor to be
able to offer all the different types of things. And really,
you know, you need to have someone who can offer
homeopathy as an alternative. You should be able to herbals
should be a part of their repertoire. Nutraceuticals should be
part of their repertoire. Chiropractic has to be in there.
(53:22):
If you don't have proper chiropractic care, you really don't
have pain relief care. Physical therapy. You have to learn
the activities of daily living. What are the exercises you
need to do to rehab that are you getting the
structure balanced out? Physiotherapy, acupuncture, auricular therapy, all the different
(53:43):
types of things and putting them all into one package
to really evaluate what is going to work for this
particular patient. And having all those different types of modalities,
that's why we incorporated them into our office.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, well, thank you, doctor Prey the very informat of
this two part series on the four a's of chronic pain.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Thank you, guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
Holistic Integration is located at eighty nine oh two North
Meridian Street on the north side of Indianapolis, just south
of the I four sixty five loop. If we can
help you to achieve better health, we'd love to hear
from you. Connect with our office at three one seven
eight four eight eighty forty eight. That's three one seven
eight four eight eighty forty eight. Join us again next
(54:37):
week or anytime on our website at the Voice of
Health radio dot com for the Voice of Health with
doctor Robert Prather.
Hi, I'm Lisa Praither and welcome to the Voice of
Health with our host, doctor Robert Praither of Holistic Integration,
where lives are changed every day through the natural approach
to healthcare. We're talking today about the four a's of
Chronic Pain, Part two. Last week we did part one,
covered two, and we're going to cover the last two
(00:36):
this week.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Certainly. Yeah, So the four a's are analgesia, which we
covered last week, activities of daily living. Then we're going
to get into adverse effects and aberrant behavior. And those
four a's weren't something that we came up with. Those
are something that is one of the things that the
(01:00):
healthcare industry, CDC, FDA, all these big letters are sitting
there and saying that this is something that we need
to look into and what we're doing for chronic pain.
So we're picking up on that and giving a structure
function viewpoint on the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, and before we dive into these last two a's
of chronic pain, dot you prate the can you explain
the structure function model and how it applies to chronic pain,
because structure function care is what we do at Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Certainly, and the FDA whenever something new comes along, either
a product or a service, they divide it up into
either disease care or structure function care. Disease care is
dealing with symptomatology. Structure function care is bringing basically health
(01:54):
back through homeostasis and balance. So you're balancing the structure
and the function or physiology of the body to achieve
a more healthy individual.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, and how have you seen it be effective in helping,
you know, structure function care and chronic pain especially.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, it's very well known. The only way that you're
going to fix pain is through structure function care. What
you're looking for is for the disease care and model
is symptom based. So the disease care model is very
good for short term types of things or end of
life issues, and in those types of things, the disease
(02:36):
care model works well, but any type of long term
and of course we're going to talk about adverse effects
and why the disease care model is not good on
a long term type of basis and how structure function
should actually fit into that. And one of the things
is that there was a commission that was put together
by the government to evaluate what would be the best
(03:00):
way to approach pain because of the opioid crisis. And
they came out basically with a structure function model, and
I was very excited about that, very surprised and very pleased.
And of course they said, well, we need to have
the drug companies look it over, and of course they
just tort all the shreds and said that we're not
(03:21):
putting this out. And of course we believe in an
eighty twenty split, eighty percent of all cares should be
structure function based, in twenty percent disease care because there
are definite times where the opiods, the nonstal anti inflammatory drugs,
and steroids work very well. However, when you talk about
any type of long term type of thing, really that's
(03:43):
where structure function care should come in.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Okay, well, let's talk about the third A adverse effects,
So dodger pray there. What are the most common side
effects of chronic pain treatments, you know, particularly opiods and
long term medications.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know, sure, just dealing with opiods at the beginning,
The long term effect of opiods is pain. What you're
trying to get out of, what you're trying to get
out of so, and let me explain the physiology of
how that works. Opiod's what they do. You produce opiods naturally,
and it's important to be able to have that because
(04:21):
that establishes your baseline pain, your pain threshold. So you
have natural opiods, and when you take opiods, it does
help out with pain, but it destroys your body's ability
to make opiods and it also destroys the opid receptors.
(04:44):
Let me repeat that. So it destroys your own body's
ability to make its own pain relief and then it
also destroys the opiate receptors. And well, I have no
pain right now. And if I started to take opiods
after three months and then I tried to quit, I
(05:04):
would be in pain. Interesting, So, opiods in a long
term type of a usage creates pain.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They should be used only short term.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Short term because then you can actually you don't do
damage in a short term type of way. So long
term type of use will actually create one an addiction
where your body sits there and says I have to
have it. And the withdrawal of going through that is
(05:37):
a lot of people actually commit suicide instead of trying
to go through the withdrawal of opiods.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So when you say short term, what do you mean
by that?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Two weeks? You know, really a two week type of thing,
you're not going to be really in problems. And when
I got out of school, nobody gave opiods past that
level because everyone knew that it was addictive. And then
you started getting a marketing firm that said, you know
what product am I going to be able to sell
(06:09):
to make billions? Well, pain's a real problem, something that's addictive.
Let's push opiates. And they falsified a whole bunch of
information and put it out there that opiod's a very
small number, maybe three percent of the people actually have that,
And that came from a not a peer reviewed journal.
(06:33):
It was something that was a op ed that was
sent in to the New England Journal of Medicine. And
the doctor was shot to find out later on that
it was his little op ed that was used to
justify all this movement selling opiods, and they wind in
(06:54):
dying doctors. They sit there and doctors made fortunes off
of it. Pharmaceutical company became absolutely huge on the billions
that they got. And the interesting thing is they actually
did a study now, as they pushed it, Purdue Pharma
actually did a study on how many people would become
(07:15):
addicted and how many people would probably die from it,
and they were they were right on, so, you know,
in other words, these sobs knew exactly what the results
were going to be. And yeah, yeah, it's it's another
it's another initial and they knew exactly what was going
(07:37):
to happen, and you know, the crisis that it was
going to occur, and you know, the Surgeon General said, hey,
you know, you guys just got to quit prescribing this,
and he sent out another letter saying, you're not stopping
prescribing that. I actually got one of those letters, and
you guys aren't stopping, you know, find only there was
(08:01):
about a almost a twenty five twenty four percent reduction
in the number of opiods that were prescribed, but it
was still, I mean, the amount of opiates that we've
prescribed before this whole push was probably just two percent
of how much opiods we sell nowadays.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Now, and I want clarity. You got one of those
letters because you're a physician, correct, not because.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You were prescribing. Yes, I don't prescribe at all. Yeah,
but you know, it was something that was sent out
and saying, hey, you know, we need to change this situation,
and there was actually criminal prosecution and people were getting
into trouble. I mean, I had a woman who came in.
She was a pastor's wife eighty years old, who had
(08:47):
been put on some opiods by her doctor for pain
relief and then cut her off. And now the pastor
was having to go out and buy street drugs so
that she wouldn't have to go through the withdrawal. And
this woman had never taken a drink in her life,
(09:09):
and she was a drug addict now. And so many
lives were ruined through this practice. And now, in twenty
twenty three, there was twenty three billion dollars worth of
opiods sold in the world, and sixty percent of it
was here in the United States. And we only have
(09:29):
four percent of the population. So this is still a
crisis that has not been resolved. We still haven't gotten
over it. Somehow, the mindset now that opiods are okay
has still lingered, even though that we know that they
are not. And it was interesting because there was a
(09:52):
push on how are we going to get over this
opioid crisis, and so there was a lot of money
that was brought into the Satan. I actually, with some
other natural doctors put out a thing, Hey, we have
some solutions along those lines which I would like to
talk about, the solutions for the opiod and we wanted
(10:12):
to put it out and basically as we looked at that,
and they came back said, you know, unless you have
a drug solution to the opid crisis, you're not going
to get anywhere. And I know people who actually submitted
things basically more drugs for the opid crisis as the
(10:33):
way to do it, and they got like two hundred
thousand dollars grant.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right, And it's a stacked deck. You know, it's a
disregard for the people. And really the people are the
only ones who can change it, because you were not
going to get it from the government. We're not going
to get it from our health officials. It's going to
have to be people who sit there and say enough,
we don't believe you, we don't trust you, mm hm,
(11:01):
and we're not going to follow your rules anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, all right, Well, and we're going to talk more.
We're going to talk about the solution to the adverse effects.
When we come back on the four a's of chronic Pain,
We'll be right back. Does your group or organization need
a speaker for an event, The Voice of Health Radio
can come do a live show and take audience questions
on the most important health topics. Learn more on our
(11:26):
speaker's bureau page at the Voice of Health radio dot com.
This is the Voice of Health with doctor Robert Praither.
The Voice of Health Wellness Tip featuring rapid release technology.
Dot your Praither. Anything you want to share about the
repid release Well, it.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Works on the fascion tissue and also on trigger points,
which we used to do by scraping and it's as
bad as it sounds with a scraping, but now we
can actually use that and it's actually a very gentle
type of a procedure. Used to have to kind of
dig in on people and kind of get that released.
(12:03):
But what the rapid release is it uses actually a
vibration to more efficiently and more gently break up fashion
material that is a problematic thing for people, and also
a great release for trigger points. So it's become a
very essential part of our treatment and actually everyone's most
(12:24):
favorite thing to have done.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yes, when we go to events, people love it.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Here.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I walked in and I could hear it being used
right the right time I walk into the office.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And just to let you know, the scraping was not
one of the more favorite things that patients used to
have done.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, just the word scraping. And it really doesn't take
but the rapid release much pressure at all to make
a change.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, it's actually the vibration that actually changes it. I know.
It's used by almost every professional team now as part
of their care and it's something that you can have no, Yeah,
and people just swear by it, and a lot of
people actually come in specifically for that treatment.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Relax muscles and release aches, pains, and tention through rapid
releases high speed vibration therapy. Experience the benefits of rapid
release therapy by scheduling an appointment at Holistic Integration and
to purchase your own go to our website at the
Voice Ofhealth radio dot com, click on the rapid Release
banner and enter code preyther pr a t h R
(13:30):
for one hundred dollars discount for the Voice of Health
Radio listeners. The Voice of Health minute with doctor Robert
Prather of Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well, there's a lot of different theories about pain. The
theory that we actually operate from in our office is
that it's a blockage of energy, and we have five
pathways of energy. We've got the nervous system, the lymphatic system,
the circulatory system, the cerebral spinal fluid system, and then
we have the electromagnetic system. As I'm evaluating someone who's
(14:02):
in pain, I'm looking to see which one of those
five pathways is actually occurring, because it makes a big
difference on how we treat it. We determine which one
of those pathways is blocked and get that opened up,
and that's why we get such quick results. And if
you don't have energy blockage, you don't have pain. Our
(14:23):
model is not proven, but it works. You get the
energy flowing, the pain goes away. There's just a lot
of physiological things that happen to the body when you're
in pain. Your pH your chemistry, your energy goes low.
And so to be able to heal, to get the
healing that I want to see and people, I have
to get them out of pain and get them out
(14:43):
of pain very quickly. Matter of fact, we're usually looking
at a two week window to get people out of pain.
Otherwise I reevaluate because we're not doing something quite right.
So pain's an enemy when it wears you down, but
it's a friend to tell you that there's something wrong.
And a lot of people give up as far as
on their pain. You know, it's something like people who
(15:05):
have chronic headaches. Eighty percent just give up, and we're
pretty much one hundred percent successful on them. It's a
matter of knowing what to do and how to get
the body balanced.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Schedule your appointment at Holistic Integration three one, seven, eight, four, eight,
eighty forty eight Holistic Integration Restoring Hope.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
A good.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yes Up. You're listening to the Voice of Health with
doctor Robert Prather of Holistic Integration, the most comprehensive wellness
center in the Midwest. We're talking today about the four
A's of Chronic Pain, Part two, and last week we
(15:55):
did the first two. I've been talking about adverse effects
and then adberant behavior. We're going to talk about We're
talking about opioids, Doctor prayther and what is the solution
you know, to the crisis.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So, of course opiate's is what brought China down, the
opium wars, all that type of thing, and it will
destroy civilization. And you know, it's amazing the number of
people that have died that I even know of from
the opioids and how that has really affected America. I
(16:31):
don't think we're quite aware of that. So it is
a real big problem that we still have here, and
it is something that is still promoted by the medical
profession and the answer to that. So I have had
patients come in with opiate addictions. Had one patient came
in and gave him a homeopathic for it, and it
(16:56):
was he was done. Wow, you know, is like I
no longer have the craving. It's you know, how do
you do that? Because he says, I've been through the
detoxification before and it was horrible. So homeopathy is a
very very good way of being able to go through
(17:16):
the detox instead of going through that horrible pain and
you know, trying to be able to deal with that,
and a lot of people would just rather die than
go through that, So the detaxification is really awful. And
of course the whole problem with the opioids is you'd
need to continue to take more to get the same benefit,
(17:38):
and so you increase it and it takes over your life.
It takes over your mind. Nothing else really matters, but
getting that one of the things that is very very excellent.
Homeopathy is very good for the opioids. The other thing
is the acupuncture. Now, the interesting thing about acupunctures. I've
(18:01):
had people who were on opiods sometimes coming in for it,
but sometimes they didn't, hadn't even told me that that
they had had an opiate addiction, and we did acupuncture
on them and they say, oh, I need to see
you after the acupuncture treatment.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah. The patient said then yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And I said yes, And they go, you had opiods
on the end of those needles, don't you, Because I
can tell when I get opiods, you know, by accident,
you know, through sesame seeds or all sorts of different
types of ways. And I said, no, that's your own
opiated production kicking in. So acupuncture is something because people
(18:45):
fall asleep, people feel better acupuncture. If you are measuring
the blood levels of your opiods increase automatically whenever you
get acupuncture. It's very interesting. Not quite sure the mechanisms
of that, but we absolutely know it's true. So it
increases the natural production of your opiods, and acupuncture will
(19:11):
also heal the receptors for the opiods, so you can
get that type of treatment and start to reheal your
own production. So homeopathy is extremely good to be able
to work through the whole process of detexification getting off
(19:33):
of it. We use homeopathy quite a few for a
lot of medications. One, it cuts down if you're taking it,
it cuts down on the side effects and actually improves
the ability of the drug to actually work properly. So
it's a really great thing and we do that an
awful lot. But then for the opiods, what it does
is it helps you to be able to get off
(19:55):
of them and to stop the cravings. It's like it
turns the which on the body.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
The homeopathy.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The homeopathy does acupuncture and aricular. Now the auricular works
on the brain aspect, that's the addiction portion, so that
you can do the auricular and stop the brain effect
of the drugs.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And explain aurricular.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, aurricular is like acupuncture for the ear, but it
works specifically on the brain, so you can stimulate electrically
or different parts and then you can actually see different
areas of the brain light up. So there are ways
to work on the brain addiction, both for smoking, for opioids,
(20:40):
for cocaine, for any type of an addiction the pornography,
to be able to stop that addiction by working on
the ear. And it's interesting because the opiate addiction is
not just a physical but also a brain addiction. So
and that's one of the things, of course, on the
(21:01):
AVERD behavior that we're going to talk about what goes
on with that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And you know, if people are like I'm a I'm
afraid of needles, we also do the acupuncture laser, we
use powder.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
We have different ways of stimulating that and getting that
type of effect.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know, it was interesting, you said, and when they
fill out the medical form, but this gentleman didn't tell
you that he had an addiction.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Well, I mean I've had people who did, but I
mean it's very consistent. Matter of fact, if I know beforehand,
I actually let them know, but sometimes they don't tell me.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Well, I was thinking just the shame involved in it. Well,
you're talking about this pastor's wife. You know, never had
a drink in her life, never, and all of a
sudden she's addicted to opioids.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, she's a drug addict now, HM, through no fault
of her own, right. And you know there's stories about
you know, young men who've gotten a knee injury, they
were put on opioids and they continued them too long
and then they become drug addicts. These things happen all
the time. And really the answer, of course is that
(22:15):
you know, you treat the pain, but you treat it
with therapy. But the problem is is the chiropractic, the acupuncture,
the physical therapy, the physiotherapy isn't covered by insurance, but
they will cover the addictive drugs. Yeah, you know, things
are backwards, Things are backwards.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
What else do you want to share on the adverse effects?
I want to make sure we cover everything in this segment.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Well, for the opioids, there's the whole problems along those lines.
And you know, just one of the things I want
to do is get into advert behavior on the opiods,
since we're talking about that.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
One of the problems is that we're very good for
getting people off of the opioids and having a very
good effect. The problem is is that a lot of
the people don't want to. You know, there was even
some people were brought in and said, hey, you know,
can you show us how effective you are? You know,
as far as getting people off of the opioids. And
(23:16):
it's interesting, it's a smaller number. The majority of people
are very attached to their addiction. So you need to
be able to get people to want to be off
of their drugs. So there is averrid behavior with opiods
(23:38):
is people embrace their demon, they embrace they're high. It's
an interesting thing because I've talked to people who are
involved in drug addiction, is that whenever there is like
a death from an overdose, you would think sales would
go down. Sales go Why is that because it means
(24:03):
that there's a stronger dose out there, So you know
there's something out there that's really strong, So hey, I
really want to get that high. And they would rather,
they would risk dying to get a bigger high. And
(24:23):
so it becomes a pathological type of a hope. It's
you know, you're no longer you You're no longer thinking
in a reasonable type of way. Whereas you and I
if something is like killed somebody, I think I'm going
to not go down that street, they head right towards
(24:44):
it because of the changes that have taken place through
the drugs that have taken over who they are. And
that's really averd behavior. So it is a situation where
where people become their own worst enemy and it's very
(25:04):
hard to actually fix. So the biggest thing is never
to allow that to actually occur. So be aware and
when someone you know wants to put you on opiate's,
hey is there? You know that's the last thing I
want to do. Now. If I have major surgery, I'm
going to take an opiate, you know what I mean,
(25:25):
But I'm going to say, hey, after two weeks, I'm done.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Right, but don't need another script.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
If I have an injured knee, I'm going to go
someplace where they actually work on the knee and fix
Because there is a tremendous amount of ability for structure
function care to fix pain. So we need to get
the pain under control through chiropractic, acupuncture, physiotherapy, activities of
(25:52):
daily living, physical physical therapy, all those types of things.
That's how you fix pain and it's very effective.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
All right, When we come back more on the four
a's of chronic pain, listen to the Voice of Health
Radio on your smartphone or tablet on all of the
top radio apps available tune In Radio, Stitcher, and iHeartRadio.
You can find these apps and more on our website
at the Voice of Health radio dot com. This is
(26:20):
the Voice of Health with doctor Robert Prather Lefter is
the best medicine. I miss COVID. I know, dude, you
know what I knew.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
There was trouble when anyone that came to our country
didn't have to get a vaccine. And I go, mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
If you're telling me I can't go to work, but
everyone coming in doesn't have to get one, we go well.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Once we found out when Fauci said, Okay, I'm sorry.
If you've had two boosters and tu vaccine, you can
get and give COVID to another guy who's had five
vaccines and full boosts. What's a vaccine a boost? So
I don't know, it's just more vaccine, but booster sounds
better anyway, A guy with twenty five vaccines would get
(27:01):
in and give COVID to another.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Guy with pointy five vaccines.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
That's why I'm introducing.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
The daily COVID shot.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Every day you get it. Yat By the time you
get to your car, you got no immunity, but it's
a beautiful thirty nine seconds.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
The pro Performance three sixty therapy at Holistic Integration combines
balance therapy and mechanical motion therapy. Our pro Performance three
sixty program can improve your stability, mobility, muscle coordination, range
of motion, cognitive function and balance. And we're joined by
two key members of Holistic Integration's structural team, our associate chiropractor,
(27:42):
doctor Dodge and Alana, who heads up our rehab department.
Can you share some success stories of someone who saw
major improvements in balance.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I do have a patient. She did purchase orthotics. She
has done the balance program twice with us. She did
it so well that her doctor call from Ohio to
ask us, hey, last time I saw this patient, she
was very off balance. Now that I'm seeing her, she
is not only balanced, but her postures. She's standing upright,
her shoulders are back, her head is coming back. Annie
(28:14):
also said when she walks, she feels more confident because
she has her pro balance orthotic sin. So just to
hear that and to hear that confirmation from another provider,
it's just confirmation that shows that what we're doing here
in our office is making a difference.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
And when he and I talked, he started the conversation,
what are you doing? This was the typical little old
lady that was on the verge of using a walker,
bent over forward, head three to five inches too far forward,
not standing up straight. You call her name and she
wasn't going to be able to turn her head, but
(28:47):
had to start moving her body to rotate. And now
she is standing up. Her head is still attle bit forward,
she still does have a bit of a hunch, but
she's standing up straight.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And she's more confident in her balance her day to
day life. It doesn't have to be in fear. She
can do what she wants to do and how she
would like to do it in a timely fashion that
she wants to do it. Because she has the ability
to move, she has the ability to be stable.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Who would benefit for pro performance therapy everybody.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Here's what I like to say. Pro performance therapy is
designed to help you go where you want to go,
do what you want to do, and do it feeling safe, stable,
comfortable and secure. So if there's anything you want to
do better, you want to feel better, you want to
function higher, and you want to feel that way, then
it's for you.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
From athletes who want to maximize their results to elderly
patients who desire to improve their balance and avoid dangerous falls,
the Pro Performance three sixty therapy at Holistic Integration can
benefit anyone seeking to get the most out of their
daily performance. Learn more about Pro Performance three sixty therapy
at Holistic Integration three one seven eight four eight eighty
(29:59):
five eight that's three one seven eight four eight eighty
forty eight or online at the Voice of Health radio
dot com. Are you experiencing muscle pain or tightness anywhere
on your body, try the Rapid Release Therapy Cordless Pro three.
The Cordless Pro three is a targeted, high speed vibration
therapy device used by medical professionals to quickly relieve a
(30:21):
wide variety of aches and pains. After years of development,
the Rapid Release Therapy Cordless Pro three is the latest
and rapid release technology. It's more powerful, quieter and lightweight
with a long battery life, and best of all, it's cordless, safe, effective,
and easy to use. This professional quality medical device has
five built in heads, giving you the versatility to treat
(30:43):
small bony surfaces such as fingers, wrists, and ankles, and
powerful enough to quickly relax the tightest hips on professional athletes.
Unlike the low speed percussive devices, rapid release therapy delivers
for sensitive areas like joints, neck and ankles safely and comfortably,
and provides the raw power your larger muscle groups need.
Go to our website at the Voice of Health radio
(31:06):
dot com, click on the rapid Release banner and enter
code preyther p R a t h e R for
one hundred dollars discount for the Voice of Health Radio listeners.
I'm Lisa Prather, and you're listening to the Voice of
(31:27):
Health with doctor Robert Prether of Holistic Integration, where we
get to the root cause of your health issue. We're
talking today on the four a's of Chronic Pain, Part two,
and we've been talking about adverse effects, and we've been
talking about opioids.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
What about NSAID, nonstortal anti inflammatory drugs.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Let's talk about that well with their effects.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
It is a twenty four billion dollar industry worldwide and
forty three percent of all the cells are to the
four percent of Americans. Now, it's interesting that Americans buy
more than anybody else, So obviously we're in more pain
than everybody else, which isn't true, right, So you know, one,
(32:18):
we have a special problem here in the United States
on drugs. We consume a tremendous amount of opiods, we
consume a tremendous amount of nonstoil anti inflammatory drugs. We
have a drug culture and that's one of the major
problems that we have. So twenty four billion, forty three
(32:40):
percent are sold to Americans, which is four percent of
the population. Now, there's a lot of reasons people take
nonsial anti inflammatory drugs. The most common one about I
think almost eighty percent is because of osteoarthritis. That's where
the big thing is coming in. And of course we
(33:01):
have an aging population. So it's estimated that just from
the United States alone, it's supposed to increase by twenty
thirty up to thirty two billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Wow, So it's just going up.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
It's just going up. And so that's a real big
area of drug growth. So if you want to make
an investment, that's a good place to go. But hopefully
we can actually show that that's not a good idea
because the problem with nonsturetal anti inflammatory drugs. Is that
it let me repeat this, It causes osteoarthritis.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And I want to make sure our listeners know in
two weeks we're going to be doing a show on osteoarthritis.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, yeah, and how we actually treat that. So nonstory
l anti inflammatory drugs actually cause osteoarthritis. So if you
didn't have osteoarthritis and you started taking nonstory l anti
inflammatory drugs, within about six months, you will have osteoarthritis.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Does it do that?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It destroys the cartilage in the joints. It's very well
known to do that. We're very aware of that. You
can take it again, non story anti inflammatory drugs if
you take it short term. Let's say you have an injury,
they work great, you know until you kind of until
you get it healed up. If you have menstrual cramps,
(34:23):
you have you know, different types of pains right then
when you're trying to get the inflammation down. Nonstory land
tie inflammatory drugs are absolutely fantastic. You take it on
a daily basis and it will destroy your joints. So
it's interesting you take opiate's for the pain and it
(34:45):
causes pain. You take non story lantine inflammatory drugs for osteoarthritis,
and it causes osteoarthritis, so you build. You know, it's
an interesting model. Yeah, you know, you have to take more,
and you have to continue to take and you're taking
it the entire time. But not only does it destroy
your joints, but it also causes kidney, liver damage and
(35:08):
other different types of issues. Where I've had people who
were basically ready to go on dialysis because they were
taking non story of anti inflammatory drugs for their austere arthritis.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Wow, so it'll destroyed their kidneys.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It will actually kill you. And so we sit there
and say, well, you know you've got to stop those,
and they're like, well I can't, I'm in too much pain.
I said, well, we can take care of the pain
met effect. I had one patient who was a runner
and he was like, well, you know, I'm going to
continue run, and the only way I can keep running
is the drugs aren't taking. And he actually came in
(35:45):
for kidney problems and I sat there. I said, well,
they're destroying your kidneys. This is the reason. He said, well,
why didn't they tell me that? I said, well, because
they're drug pushers.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, you know, I can read the side effects.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Right, So I said, you've got to stop that, And
he said, well, you know what do I do? And
I said, well try you know, and I had pro trauma.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, and tell listeners to pro trauma.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yes. It has a combination of herbs and vitamins and
some amino acids. And then also I total him to
take some hyaluronic acid with it, and he started to
take those things, and within two weeks he says, well,
this is actually working better than the non stolantine inflammatory drugs. Yeah.
(36:32):
The whole thing is that for the pain opiods, we
have some really good supplements that you can take that
actually help with the pain, that are actually good for you.
And then we also have things to help with the osteoarthritis,
really great things for the osteoarthritis which actually will heal
(36:55):
the osteoithritis and take down the pain. That works much
better than the drugs. So the drugs aren't really necessary
if you're looking just to take things. Because he was
a very non compliant patient, really didn't want to come
in and get treated. You know, he got a few treatments.
(37:16):
They worked real well, but he basically said, I just
want to take something, and so we set him up
on that and he's still on him but he can
run now and not have any problems, and in his
kidney's healed up. So it's a matter of having an
understanding of what are the nutraceuticals, what are the things
(37:37):
that are structure function based, because structure function is again, well,
it does work on the symptoms, but that's not the goal.
The goal is to heal. And the drugs are you know,
understanding what a drug is. A drug is to deal
with the symptoms and if the drug doesn't make you
(37:58):
more unhealthy, and it can't be classified as a drug.
It's just like what Eli Lilly said. Eli Lily said, drugs,
if they don't cause problems, they can't be classified as
a drug.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Right. Well, as you know, I play pickleball. I'm one
of those pickleball cult people, the cults. But it amazes
me how many people I play with that are taking
over the counter yes on a daily basis, you know,
And it's so great that I don't need to do that,
(38:35):
you know, if I you know what, I haven't had
knee pain in so long because I did the decompression.
Why don't we talk a little bit about that helpful
that is and using if I need to use the
pro trauma, but it's not a constant thing.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Sure, yeah, yeah. Interestingly enough, one of the things, and
we didn't actually talk about that as one of the
treatments is what you do is you take the joint
and you pump it. Decompression is what decompression is. And
as you pump it, you start to get the fluid
back into the joint, hydrates it stimulates it so that
(39:12):
it starts to actually reverse the whole arthritis. I had
one gentleman and he says, there, he says, you know,
the the adjustments have worked really well, the acupuncture, but
you know, my neck it still kind of clicks. It's
kind of hard to move it. You know, what are
you going to do about that? And I sat there
and I said, well, that's weird. The decompression should have
(39:35):
done that. And he kind of goes oh. I said, well,
you you would recommend a decompression, You're you're doing it
right now. I decided not to, and I said, well
that's your problem. You still have all the austriarthritis through
the neck, so you know, go do the decompression and
(39:56):
after two times he was like, oh, yeah, that's working.
You know, because a lot of people will pick and choose,
and we don't recommend things unless they're needed. But that
is something that is very interesting because we'll sit there
and go back, you know, like, okay, let's retake your
x rays and you had a seventy five percent loss
(40:19):
of disk height of L five and S one and
guess what, you now have ten percent loss. You know,
we've show it on the x rays that the radiologist says, yeah,
there's been a change, and yes, the osteoarthritis is actually disappearing.
So you can actually reduce those things, right, So taking
(40:41):
the proper supplements, you know, taking collagen type of thing,
also getting into the glucosamine condroit and getting into the herbels,
the anti inflammatories, getting into the things that will actually
heal it back up the body can revert a lot
(41:01):
of the degeneration that goes.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
On no matter how old you are.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah. Yeah, it's just like I went back and last
time I talked about a guy who was ninety years
old and it would be great if he could dance again.
That's he kind of got and we did the things.
We did, the decompression, we did all the different types
of treatments, getting on some supplements, and he was basically,
you know, he reversed his biological age and could start
(41:27):
dancing again.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
M hmm. Right, because there's the chronological age, but then
there's the biological age.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Right. And as I tell people, if you're allowing nature
to take place, nature's going to decompose you. You know,
if you're not actively doing the things that you need
to do, you know, through supplementation, herbyls, doing the proper exercises,
making sure that you're in alignment, you do the acupuncture,
(41:53):
you do all these types of things. You're fighting against
the decomposition that nature you're trying to do, trying to
turn you back into dust. If you're not actively working
on it, you're going into dust. That's just the way
it is.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Well on that word. All right, we'll be right back
with our last segment on the four a's of chronic pain.
Being right back. Never miss an episode of the Voice
of Health so that you can stay informed and empowered
about your health. Get a podcast of our show automatically
delivered to you every week by signing up for our
show on iTunes. You can find that link on our
(42:31):
website at the Voice of Health radio dot com. And
don't forget the Voice of Health radio dot com has
complete archives of all of our past episodes with an
audio library of information to help you add more life
to your years and more years to your life. This
is the Voice of Health with Doctor Robert Prether, The
(42:51):
Voice of Health Wellness Tip with Doctor Robert Prether of
Holistic Integration.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Headaches really shouldn't be ignored. And it's interesting because people
who have chronic headaches, about seventy five percent of them
have actually given up. That is a shame because there's
usually always an answer. As matter of fact, I have
never had a case on our office of headaches that
we couldn't find what was the underlying cause. Even the
(43:19):
quality of the headaches. Headaches are different. One of the
most common ones that causes it is the greater ocipal
nerve they also call it the headache nerve, goes from
the back of the occiput up to the eyes. There
are migraines, which is a totally different type, cluster headaches,
hormonal headaches, gallbladder can actually cause headache. Looking at all
those different types of things, whether it's physiological or whether
(43:42):
it's structural. All those signs and symptoms kind of help
us to get to where we need to be. Migraines
are much more common with females. Usually there's an aura
or visual or hearing differences that occur. Usually it's also
a one sided type of headache, but it has to
do with the vasculature. You're having contractions and dilations of
the arteries. Oftentimes you're talking about food allergies. About forty
(44:07):
percent of all migraines are controlled by food allergies. Of course,
you always need to make sure that the atlas is set,
but sometimes it's not associated with a misalignment, but more
to do with allergies. Copper zinc ratio also seems to
play a very big role. Birth control pills can play
a big role in when you're going through your mental period.
(44:27):
There's a lot of shifting on the copper zinc ratio.
Hair analysis is the best way to measure that out.
Getting that balance seems to be major a major issue.
Almost all hormonal headaches are migraine headaches, but they are
kicked off by the hormones. Many times, it's not really
a structural issue, but a endercon issue. What you have
to do is you have to do all the diagnostics,
(44:50):
the lab tests, blood tests, urine tests to find out
what's going on with the hormones, how they're off, and
what you need to do to get those back under control.
When you're dealing with hormones, female hormones, it's always a
moving target. You have to do a lot of adjustment
and I tell people, we're going to have to work
with this, and we'll need to see you on a
regular basis to get this under control. And you're going
to think it's all under control, while Doc, I'm feeling
(45:11):
so much better. And it not only translates into the
headaches being gone, it also helps with the emotional A
lot of things clear up as we do that, so
there's usually more involved than just the headaches, though it's
the headaches that actually brought them in. Hypertension headaches you
have to look at and say, hey, this can be
a dangerous situation. If it's high enough to cause you
(45:31):
a headache, it can also start to be high enough
to cause an aneurysm or a stroke. We actually have
very good results because as you're dealing with the pharmaceuticals
on that all you're doing is taking care of the symptence.
We try to get to the underlying problem, but seventy
percent of the time to eighty percent of the time
it's kidneys. So you heal up the kidneys, you get
rid of the high pertension rebound. Headaches are from pharmaceuticals.
(45:53):
We've had several patients who came in. We went through
all the different types of aspects of their headaches, getting
that under control. But one of the problems is we
had to get them off of the pharmaceuticals they were
taking because it was the pharmaceuticals themselves were causing the headaches,
and going off of them can actually even cause headaches.
You have to make some homeopathics and get that under
control with them.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Schedule your appointment at Holistic Integration three one seven eight
four eight eighty forty eight. That's three one seven eight
four eight eighty forty eight, or learn more on our
website at the Voice of Health radio dot com. Really
(46:38):
you're listening to the Voice of Health with doctor Robert
Prather of Holistic Integration, where our mission is restoring hope
to our patients. We're talking today about the four A's
of Chronic Pain Part two and talking about adverse effects
and admerant behavior. Doctor Prather, let's talk about steroid.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Sure, So when you're talking about steroids, usually you're talking
about injections. And I heard from people who were basically
dealing with osteoarthritis where when steroids first came out and
they discovered it started to use it, they were like,
what are we going to do with our time? Because
this is going to fix everything, And unfortunately we found
(47:21):
out that it didn't because well, the body produces its
own steroids to actually take down inflammation. So one of
the things is a lot of people have come into
us and said, well, you know, my doctor said he
can't do any more steroids, so you know, I need
to find some alternative because I got a steroid shot
in my back and you know I can't get any more.
(47:43):
The reason is is because steroids will eventually destroy a joint,
so again you've got negative effects along those lines. It
can actually cause endercren issues. There's an awful lot that's
involved with that, so that you can't do steroids on
a long term type of basis. Matter of fact, a
(48:03):
steroid shot on you know, the first one, usually you
get your best results. And hopefully if you go in
for a steroid shot because of pain and they do
the injection and the pain's gone, great, If it doesn't
work and you need a second one, you're not going
to get the same results, and then you should be
(48:26):
kind of hesitant to do a third one. After a
third one, forget it. It's not gonna help. It's just
gonna make everything worse. So interesting, that's the type of
way that you look at that. And again, drugs can
be extremely helpful. Steroids can be something that can be
life saving, you know, as far as taking that getting
(48:48):
the inflammation down, and you need those. Sometimes the shots
can get things, you know, terrible pain under control. So
those are all can be good things long term use,
and then getting to the root of the problem is
really where you need to go. So again it's a
(49:08):
short term type of a benefit and can be a lifesaver,
just like opiates can be amazing nonstoryal anti inflammatory drugs
used properly can be great. Steroids can be something that
can be very very helpful, But any type of a
long term type of use, it will eventually cause a
(49:30):
huge amount of health problems.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
And there's so much more out there that's more natural
and helps the body heal.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, and there have been times where you know, I've
even sent people out for a steroid shot a feeling
that that would be something that needs to be gotten
under control quickly. So you know, it's not something that
I'm against, but it is something that needs to be
understood and worked accordingly. You know, one of the main
(50:02):
problems that we have is that we have the direct
advertising to people.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Right, and that's something you said you'd want to change
in regards to chronic pain. You ended the show last
week about that.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, but I mean, I know Robert Kennedy that was
one of the things that he promised to do when
he got in is to stop the direct advertising. There's
only one other country that allows that. That's New Zealand.
All the other countries say, of course, we don't allow
drug companies to advertise directly to patients. Patients shouldn't be
making that decision. The doctor should because people will pressure
(50:43):
their doctor into giving them something that they shouldn't have.
So direct marketing to patients is something that shouldn't be
done and people shouldn't be deciding that they should be
on a drug that should be done. And then really
the first thing is that you should always try to
do something naturally instead of pharmaceutically or surgery. That's your
(51:08):
first as your first type of option. They have found
that the more orthopedic surgeons that you have, the more
orthopedic surgeries occur. When they have actually done studies on
orthopedic surgeries, how many were actually necessary. Really a lot
of times eighty five percent weren't really now should have
(51:31):
been dealt with naturally. So the other thing is going
into the surgeries, because whenever you do surgeries, there is
the possibility of problems, and you should always try natural
care first. There are times that I've sent people out
for back surgery because it was necessary, and there's a
(51:52):
lot of times that I said, no, give this a
try for this length of time, and usually the outcome
will be much better. When they did the studies on
back surgeries, well, neck surgeries have much worse back surgeries.
They found that the first five years they usually do
better if they've had the back surgery. After that they
(52:15):
usually do worse than if they had never gotten the
back surgery in the first place.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
So we have a few minutes and I want to
make sure to cover you know, how can patients and
providers better collaborate to address all four a's effectively?
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Well, you should always say, hey, doc, you know, is
there a natural way that I could probably work on
this first? You know, so the patient taking responsibility along
those lines, saying I'm not looking for the easy way out.
I want to find out what's the best way, what
is my least risk of doing treatments? And can I
(52:55):
do this without drugs and surgery?
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (52:58):
And then seek out a structure function doctor to be
able to offer all the different types of things. And really,
you know, you need to have someone who can offer
homeopathy as an alternative. You should be able to herbals
should be a part of their repertoire. Nutraceuticals should be
part of their repertoire. Chiropractic has to be in there.
(53:22):
If you don't have proper chiropractic care, you really don't
have pain relief care. Physical therapy. You have to learn
the activities of daily living. What are the exercises you
need to do to rehab that are you getting the
structure balanced out? Physiotherapy, acupuncture, auricular therapy, all the different
(53:43):
types of things and putting them all into one package
to really evaluate what is going to work for this
particular patient. And having all those different types of modalities,
that's why we incorporated them into our office.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, well, thank you, doctor Prey the very informat of
this two part series on the four a's of chronic pain.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Thank you, guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
Holistic Integration is located at eighty nine oh two North
Meridian Street on the north side of Indianapolis, just south
of the I four sixty five loop. If we can
help you to achieve better health, we'd love to hear
from you. Connect with our office at three one seven
eight four eight eighty forty eight. That's three one seven
eight four eight eighty forty eight. Join us again next
(54:37):
week or anytime on our website at the Voice of
Health radio dot com for the Voice of Health with
doctor Robert Prather.
Popular Podcasts
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Charlie is America's hardest working grassroots activist who has your inside scoop on the biggest news of the day and what's really going on behind the headlines. The founder of Turning Point USA and one of social media's most engaged personalities, Charlie is on the front lines of America’s culture war, mobilizing hundreds of thousands of students on over 3,500 college and high school campuses across the country, bringing you your daily dose of clarity in a sea of chaos all from his signature no-holds-barred, unapologetically conservative, freedom-loving point of view. You can also watch Charlie Kirk on Salem News Channel